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Putin - Erdogan: Only one side of the conflict in Syria can not observe the de-escalation regime

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Putin - Erdogan: Only one side of the conflict in Syria can not observe the de-escalation regime

Against the backdrop of a sharp aggravation of the situation in Idlib and Aleppo, the presidents of the Russian Federation and Turkey conducted a telephone conversation. Recall that before this, the Turkish military died in Syria, and Ankara accused Russia of not fulfilling obligations to force Assad to comply with agreements on de-escalation zones. Additional Turkish forces were deployed in the direction of Idlib, and the Turkish contingent struck at the positions of the SAA, eventually declaring the elimination of 76 military personnel of the "Assad regime."


After that, Recep Erdogan decided to call the President of Russia. According to the Kremlin’s press service, the Turkish president detailed his vision of the situation in Syria.

According to Erdogan, Assad’s troops are advancing in Idlib, carrying out shelling. In response to this, the Russian president noted that only one side of the Syrian conflict, the CAA, cannot comply with the de-escalation agreements. According to the Russian leader, recently terrorist groups have sharply intensified in Idlib and Aleppo, trying to expand control zones and constantly bombard the positions of the Syrian government forces.

Earlier, one of the captured militants during an interrogation told Syrian officers that the group in which he was a member was sponsored by Turkey, supplying both weapons and financial resources.

As a result, Putin and Erdogan agreed to take urgent measures between the defense ministries of the two countries to coordinate actions. Agreements were also reached on further supporting the dialogue on Syria, including in the format of the Constitutional Committee in Geneva.

According to Putin, the escalation must be stopped by both sides of the conflict in the same Idlib, as its further continuation leads to the death of an increasing number of civilians.

It is noted that the presidents also discussed the Libyan agenda and noted the importance of adhering to the ceasefire in this country.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 5 February 2020 06: 58
    +9
    Stirred up - undersultan! Calls, negotiations ... well, we'll see how it all ends.
    Trolls - Do not need about tomatoes, come up with something new! yes
    1. Finches
      Finches 5 February 2020 07: 01
      +23
      GDP does not need to be communicated with Erdogan over the phone - but send cards! Postcard with a portrait of Suvorov on the background of Ishmael, Potemkin, indicating the sultan, whose Crimea, Ushakov on the background of Turkish frigates burning with a bright flame ... So to speak, through the prism of historical memory, that the head office is not quite right! laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 5 February 2020 07: 26
        +16
        and in general, let the Armenians give their national pride, the grabbers are bad!
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 5 February 2020 13: 03
          +1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and in general, let the Armenians give their national pride, the grabbers are bad!

          Yes, it’s not a grabber. They took what they were given:
          "Московский договор (1921) - российско-турецкий договор о «дружбе и братстве», подписанный 16 марта 1921 г. в Москве между правительством Великого национального собрания Турции и правительством РСФСР. В соответствии с договором армянские города Карс и Ардаган отошли Турции. Гора Арарат также оказалась на территории Турции."
          "According to the Treaty, Russia is extending it every 25 years, and now the date for the next signing of the Treaty is just approaching." Armenians can show nothing.
      2. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 5 February 2020 07: 27
        +3
        So to speak, through the prism of historical memory, to hint ...

        За всю историю отношений между Россией и Турцией было 10 (!!!) русско-турецких войн, плюс Крымская война и Первая мировая. Семь раз побеждала Россия, три раза Турция и два раза ничья.
        Если без Крымской и Первой мировой, то чистых побед Турции только одна. Надо плакать с этой статистикой повесить в Москве напротив турецкого посольства. Чтоб не забывали.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 5 February 2020 09: 35
          -2
          Quote: maidan.izrailovich
          Gotta cry with this statistic

          Who should cry? belay
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny 5 February 2020 09: 58
            +4
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: maidan.izrailovich
            Gotta cry with this statistic

            Who should cry? belay

            Definitely not for us. And based on the history of Turkey, recalling its former greatness.
    2. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 5 February 2020 07: 35
      +3
      Ours to break off relations with Turkey is not profitable, the Turks also firmly lied in view of the prospects of using Russian gas and fuel elements for a new nuclear power plant.
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 5 February 2020 08: 07
        +5
        It is necessary to support the Turks in Libya morally. Let it go deeper. Tourists with tomatoes, in this situation, can also be a worthy incentive to change the behavior of Erdogan in Syria, and his desire to change the situation in Libya. For politics is the art of the possible.
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 5 February 2020 08: 19
          +5
          Not from a good life, Erdogan makes contacts with Russia. If competitors and internal opposition had not been pushing him from all sides, then he would have been uncontrollable. what
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny 5 February 2020 10: 02
            +6
            Quote: bessmertniy
            If he hadn’t been squeezed from all sides

            He himself is to blame for this. There is no need to dream of a "great Turkish empire". Erdogan, by his behavior, both ours and yours, resembles a person with low social responsibility, only in a man's guise.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 5 February 2020 11: 50
            +3
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Not from a good life, Erdogan makes contacts with Russia.

            Something like this. The Syrian army is already 8 kilometers from Idlib, stop here yes
            1. Grits
              Grits 5 February 2020 13: 28
              -2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Something like this. The Syrian army is already 8 kilometers from Idlib, stop here

              Thanks to the efforts of our leadership, the Syrian army will remain at 8 km. from Idlib.
              Suffice it to recall 2008. When a dozen miles. left to Tbilisi. Or 2014, when Mariupol was almost surrounded.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 5 February 2020 15: 09
                +3
                Quote: Gritsa
                Thanks to the efforts of our leadership, the Syrian army will remain at 8 km. from Idlib.
                Спорное утверждение. Благодаря нашему руководству Асад удержался у власти, хотя на момент начала операции со стороны России, ему пророчили пару месяцев до полного поражения. Благодаря России под контроль Дамаска вернулось более 70% территории Сирии. В принципе и то, что САА в 8 км.от столицы бармалеев Идлиба, тоже благодаря нашему руководству. Да сейчас наступление может быть и остановится, не в первой. Только каждый раз, бородатые дают повод для очередного наступления в ходе которого от этого идлибского гадюшника САА отгрызает кусок территории.
                1. Grits
                  Grits 5 February 2020 17: 35
                  +3
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Controversial statement.

                  I agree, controversial. But the suspiciously frequent phone calls of Erlogan and Putin provide food for such thoughts.
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 5 February 2020 20: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: Gritsa
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Controversial statement.

                    I agree, controversial. But the suspiciously frequent phone calls of Erdogan and Putin provide food for such thoughts.

                    Кто то кому то подыгрывает в Сирии, кто то кому то в Ливии, в итоге, методом наездов и уступок, каждый решает свою задачу. То что перезваниваются на досуге, так это для "сверки часов", а в итоге каждый получает то, что хочет. Просто заходят с разных козырей. hi
          3. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 5 February 2020 13: 21
            +1
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Not from a good life, Erdogan makes contacts with Russia.

            The reason may be completely different. Perhaps during personal meetings between Putin and Erdogan large joint projects for the future were agreed upon, which we do not know about.
            Therefore, Erdogan will not break off relations with Russia.
        2. Guru
          Guru 5 February 2020 09: 11
          0
          IL-18 (Andrey)
          I support your opinion. good
        3. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 5 February 2020 09: 39
          +2
          Quote: IL-18
          Tourists with tomatoes,

          Yes, it’s not for nothing that it was said above
          Hunter 2 (Alexey) Today, 06:58

          Trolls - Do not need about tomatoes, come up with something new! yes

          Pizza lovers got it
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny 5 February 2020 10: 04
            +5
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Pizza lovers got it

            And I love tomato salad. And did I get the same?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 5 February 2020 10: 14
              +1
              Quote: Red
              And I love tomato salad. And did I get the same?

              Those who got the word TOMATOR in their moss were driven out like a worm.
              Those words TO the tomato flew through my ears.
              Remind ALL phrase?
              Or remember selectively?
              "We play here, and here the herring is wrapped"?
          2. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 5 February 2020 13: 35
            +4
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Pizza lovers got it

            Sergei, those who are annoyed by the failure of the provocation with the downed SU24 recall the "Turkish tomatoes". They really wanted to watch a big war on TV. But instead of war, joint projects appear. "Pizza lovers" are like a sickle in one place.
            Do not pay attention to them. hi
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 5 February 2020 13: 46
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              But instead of war, joint projects appear.

              Yes, what a howl they raised for the sale of S - 400
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 5 February 2020 13: 50
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: Vladimir_6
                But instead of war, joint projects appear.

                Yes, what a howl they raised for the sale of S - 400

                They also howled when the first reports of the sale of the S-400 to China appeared.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 5 February 2020 14: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  They also howled when the first reports of the sale of the S-400 to China appeared.

                  Why can't they howl
                  1. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 5 February 2020 14: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Why can't they howl

                    Well, we will be cheerful and cheerful. (with)
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 5 February 2020 14: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: Vladimir_6
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Why can't they howl

                      Well, we will be cheerful and cheerful. (with)

                      AXA good
        4. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 6 February 2020 10: 22
          0
          Any political achievement must ultimately bring economic bonuses.
    3. cniza
      cniza 5 February 2020 08: 42
      +5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Stirred up - undersultan! Calls, negotiations ... well, we'll see how it all ends.
      Trolls - Do not need about tomatoes, come up with something new! yes



      The Sultan lurks and will wait for an opportunity, and our task is not to give him this case, it is difficult, but no other has been given.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 5 February 2020 08: 52
        +2
        And still it’s a shame - they warmed a snake submarine on their chest. feel
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 February 2020 08: 59
          +5
          We live in the world that is, and it's not just ...
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 5 February 2020 09: 01
            +1
            The only reassuring thing is that others will live in an even more terrible world than us.
            1. cniza
              cniza 5 February 2020 09: 02
              +2
              Unfortunately, if you do not change the world, then this cesspool will drag us in - there is no choice ...
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 5 February 2020 09: 40
          +2
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And still it’s a shame - they warmed a snake submarine on their chest.

          Well, on whose chest who warmed whom?
          On yours?
      2. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik 5 February 2020 09: 11
        0
        The Sultan lurks and will wait for an opportunity

        Unfortunately, not only the Sultan is waiting for an opportunity. All along our border "well-wishers" sit, and are just waiting for how to "help" us with territories, resources, and indeed ... And our supreme leadership solves very important tasks, but for itself.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 February 2020 09: 19
          +2
          Namely, we are practically surrounded by "well-wishers" and everyone is waiting for what else to bite off or blame and further down the list.
    4. Ros 56
      Ros 56 5 February 2020 10: 00
      +2
      In vain you are talking about tomatoes, the ban on their sale and other vegetables and fruits to Russia stings the Turks well, and even if you connect tourists, or rather exclude it from Turkish hotels, it will somehow be idle. Checked by time.
    5. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 February 2020 11: 07
      -1
      How smart you are, who dares to object to that Troll.
      Well, let's not talk about tomatoes. Would you like about the pipes-South Stream? Or maybe Crimea, where Erdogan will sponsor the Tatars. Maybe you want to talk about a gift to NATO member S - 400? Or how to agree on Libya?
      Do not confuse patriotism with venality.
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 5 February 2020 07: 05
    +1
    I am the sultan, and I want to turn what I want. Until Putin calls.
  3. demo
    demo 5 February 2020 07: 07
    +2
    Already war is not war.
    And the world is not peace.

    Trying to comply with the agreements where there are dozens of armed gangs of different colors, but secretly financed by external players, including Turkey, is an absurdity theater.

    I remember how all the barmaley were gathered across Syria into buses and transported to one place.
    They thought that then this enclave could be quickly slammed.
    And it turns out that all the participants guessed about the ultimate goal.

    So far, the Americans haven’t pushed anything.
    But even with them there will be trouble even that.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 5 February 2020 07: 42
      +3
      there already 70% of those taken out slammed
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 5 February 2020 08: 21
        +1
        So the Turks still throw up their "wolves" and who else they trained "on Assad".
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 5 February 2020 08: 49
          +1
          vice versa)))) they get out of there and transfer to Libya)))
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 February 2020 07: 10
    +5
    only one party cannot comply with de-escalation arrangements
    That's right, but opponents of Assad and Turkey, including for some reason they believe that only Assad owes, is obliged ... to them, and the fact that they support terrorists is exclusively for peace purposes. I hope that mutual understanding in the conversation was reached, although I doubt that the Turkish side will take any action to fulfill the obligations assumed.
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 February 2020 08: 39
      +1
      But the Sultan does not have many options, you will have to grind your teeth, but abide by the agreement ...
  5. olhon
    olhon 5 February 2020 07: 11
    -6
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Stirred up - undersultan! Calls, negotiations ... well, we'll see how it all ends.
    Trolls - Do not need about tomatoes, come up with something new! yes

    Про помидоры не актуально. ЮВ Азия для туристов прикрыта сами знаете почему, ехать, как не в султанат на отдых, больше некуда. laughing
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 5 February 2020 14: 09
      +2
      It is possible to Greece and Cyprus! wink
      1. olhon
        olhon 6 February 2020 01: 19
        +1
        It is possible, but the price tag is a little different. laughing
        1. Dur_mod
          Dur_mod 6 February 2020 20: 49
          -2
          But sho Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bulgaria have closed? And to develop the Crimea?
  6. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 5 February 2020 07: 13
    -1
    Erdogan was made a suggestion. How long will it last? Tovarisch is very impulsive and unpredictable.
    По хорошему России надо контролировать внутриполитическую жизнь в сопредельных государствах. Хоть у нас и нет общей с Турцией границы, но Турцию тоже можно отнести к таким странам. Такой контроль позволит не иметь проблем с такими странами во внешней политике.
    1. protoss
      protoss 5 February 2020 11: 05
      +1
      funny about the control of domestic political life. it didn’t work with Ukraine, let alone others.
      1. Dur_mod
        Dur_mod 6 February 2020 20: 50
        -3
        With Ukraine, everything turned out in perfect form.
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 February 2020 07: 18
    +1
    stating the elimination of 76 members of the Assad regime.
    Strengthened contractual positions? request 76 - not enough, it was necessary to say about 181, then it would be cooler. angry Yes, Erdogan is completely green, only flew from Kiev. request
    1. flicker
      flicker 5 February 2020 16: 03
      +1
      Ага, сам, похоже, пересчитывал ну, типа: "раз ... два
      ... six uh, ... seventy six! A whisper from the bushes: Recep, it's ours, the Janissaries. " laughing
  8. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 February 2020 07: 19
    +2
    After that, Recep Erdogan decided to call the President of Russia.

    The Sultan was blown away?
    1. The little wink
      The little wink 5 February 2020 07: 49
      -7
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      After that, Recep Erdogan decided to call the President of Russia.

      The Sultan was blown away?

      Vestimo was blown away by the dark. wink
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 5 February 2020 07: 52
        +4
        Quote: Wink
        Vestimo was blown away by the dark.

        Salaga!
  9. cniza
    cniza 5 February 2020 08: 37
    +1
    It is noted that the presidents also discussed the Libyan agenda and noted the importance of adhering to the ceasefire in this country.


    Right idyll ... how the Sultan will continue to twitch ...
  10. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 5 February 2020 08: 46
    +1
    It turns out that when solving this political tangle, instead of a dove of peace, a hedgehog and a snake crossed. And how to unravel now, this skein of barbed wire?
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 February 2020 08: 54
    +1
    However, the sultan twitched ... And what kind of sultan is he after that? wassat
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 5 February 2020 09: 09
    +1
    Against the backdrop of a sharp aggravation of the situation in Idlib and Aleppo, the presidents of the Russian Federation and Turkey conducted a telephone conversation.

    See what the results will be.
  13. Red
    Red 5 February 2020 09: 47
    +1
    Good morning, colleagues! A very strange and optimistic picture is taking shape in Idlib. Usually, after the shout of the Sultan, Assad’s troops stopped, and now, despite the shelling from Turkey, government troops continue to recapture more and more territories. One gets the feeling that the Sultan agreed to merge Idlib, and grumbles purely for pro forma.
  14. Dikson
    Dikson 5 February 2020 12: 21
    0
    Какая прелесть.. То есть сначала было : "Турецкие военные нанесли удары по позициям российских военных в деревне Кашта-ар района Шарран региона Африн, на северо-востоке Алеппо"... , сообщения о погибших наших бойцах.. А потом султан поговорил с президентом и они вспомнили, что есть оказывается Турецкий поток, и строительство АЭС, и С-400.. и помидоры.. да и вообще.. - это оказывается, такой вид диалога, когда турки по нашим стреляют, оружие продают и бармалеям, и Украине, и поход на Крым эскадрона татар поддерживают.. но деньги ведь не пахнут? Наверное, в целях укрепления российско-турецкой дружбы туркам надо из проданного им С-400 ещё один наш самолёт сбить.. Чтобы уж побратимами стать? Кокке же мерзкое дурнопахнущее, дело - политика ..
  15. flicker
    flicker 5 February 2020 13: 49
    +1
    It seems that Erdogan was reminded of how long he will live if Russia pushes (ceases to cooperate) Turkey into the arms of the United States. The geldings already wanted to bang him, with the hands of the Turkish military, was not received. But the desire to bang him did not go away, and perhaps only intensified bully
  16. Goblin
    Goblin 5 February 2020 16: 39
    +2
    Erdogan, of course, is becoming impudent, but you can’t push him away while he is on the knives from the USA .. All the same, the second army in NATO in terms of numbers and weapons ..
    And he makes contact with Putin, and this is important ..
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  18. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 February 2020 03: 27
    0
    well done! Do we have such a rocket to put everyone in their place ?!
    if someone did not understand: Well done! brand is after me
  19. Super
    Super 6 February 2020 10: 21
    0
    Tough Putin put Erdogan in place. For the boys!