US Vice Admiral: "The actions of the US Navy are becoming more complicated due to new tactics of Russians in the Atlantic"

The actions of the U.S. Navy are complicated by the new tactics of the Russians in the Atlantic. Against this background, combat concepts that are able to create parity in the fight against the enemy are gradually ripening. This was stated by the commander of the 2nd fleet Vice Admiral Andrew Lewis, quoted by USNI News.

The area of ​​responsibility of this compound is the western part of the Atlantic.

They [2nd Fleet Sailors] have to deal with the presence of Russian forces in ways that have not been done for decades.

- writes the designated edition.

As Lewis points out, the indicated region of the oceans has become a controversial space due to the presence of Russian submarines, which have unprecedented capabilities, have a more deadly weapon and the ability to perform a combat mission for a longer time.

As a result, our ships can no longer count on acting in a safe haven on the east coast or simply crossing the Atlantic unhindered

- the vice admiral notes.

As an example, he cited the case when the USS Mahan (DDG-72) [Arly Burke type destroyer] was at sea at the end of 2019 during the restoration of combat readiness and collided with a Russian reconnaissance ship off the east coast of the United States. At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

Under these conditions, the 2nd fleet (as well as the 3rd - its counterpart on the west coast) becomes a place for combat ships to practice tactics before leaving for the far reaches of the oceans.

Nobody likes to lose, but you need to be able to lose and learn from it.

- Lewis points out, speaking about the effectiveness of the use of certain tactics in the fight against the Russians.

However, the Vice Admiral assured the ability of the 2nd Fleet to ensure the transfer of expeditionary forces to the North or the European Command of the United States, thereby confirming that control over the situation in the West Atlantic was maintained.

USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) crosses the Atlantic Ocean, July 5, 2019

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

The actions of the US Navy are complicated by new tactics used by the Russians in the Atlantic. Against this background, combat concepts are gradually ripening that can create parity in the fight against the enemy

To be honest, ofigel, is it that the Americans now have multiple numerical superiority and do not provide parity ?!

[Santa Fe]

thanks to the presence of Russian submarines, which have unprecedented capabilities, have more deadly weapons

All the same submarines as 20 years ago
Only less

new tactics used by Russians in the Atlantic. Against this background, combat concepts are gradually ripening that can create parity in the fight against the enemy

some nonsense

[bessmertniy]

It seems that the mere physiological incontinence of the American vice admiral intensified. He wants an indivisible Atlantic that would be under US control.

[Santa Fe]

Admiral needs to say something in order not to look useless in his eyes and in the eyes of the public

The 2nd Fleet has not had an opponent for twenty years
Their command is 250 people, several times less than in other areas of responsibility (Arabian Sea & Persian Gulf, Pacific Ocean).

It is the command structure that is the indicator, not the ships, because The United States Navy 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 is a zone of responsibility, a passing ship is automatically included in the fleet. and excluded when leaving this zone

And all this is not very happy for us - direct evidence of what threat the Russian Navy poses (and who else can be seen as an adversary in the North Atlantic?)

[Chaldon48]

The Americans look at the Atlantic not just as an inland lake, but just like a cook on a crutch with soup and they really don’t like that there is something swimming that they didn’t put there.

[Svetlana]

Phraseological, whirling turns, are not always amenable to accurate translation. Here most likely this case and the translator could not cope, although he tried.

[Starover_Z]

At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

And there is nothing for an unprepared ship to hang out at sea! Especially not certified ! He himself will sink, and then respond to the Russians ?!

[Simon]

Yes, their free walk on the seas and oceans ended! Now let them know that their insidious moves are traced from under the water by our submarines.

[Spektr]

And satellites from space. Plus, over-the-horizon radars track the near Atlantic. And knowing that the enemy also has anti-ship missiles, from which there is no protection, then you really don’t sing like that.

[Grandfather Crimea]

The same thought arose - maybe ours should have been asking for a word - "guys, how are you ready to see the Russians, the point is not bjim-jim? If we turn things around, so that the tender souls of the sailors do not cause psychological trauma."

[Private-K]

All the same submarines as 20 years ago

20 years ago, the entire fleet of the Russian Federation stood at the pier.
About 25 years, Americans calmly plowed the oceans and lost their skills. Now they will have to restore it.
What is the meaning of the speech about.

[Santa Fe]

Watch more TV

If the fleet was at the pier, who strained NATO forces in the Adriatic in 1999 when they bombed the FRY (the answer is K-141 Kursk, the commander’s award. By the way, Kursk also died not at the pier, but during the exercises of the Northern Fleet)

And so is every ship.

Which both then and now were few. Now there is even less. The operational voltage coefficient has not changed, just about the actions of the Armed Forces and the Navy speak in each news release. On the one hand, it’s good that they began to say that there should be pride in the country. On the other hand, in practice there are no changes.

RPKSN Combat Patrol Schedule. At the same level, within the margin of error

We can say that these are the notions and lies of Western experts, but there are facts and more serious

2015. Being at the Gadzhievo berths 4 SSBN at the same time. With that in mind, the fifth (K-114 Tula) was under repair in Severodvinsk, but only one of the seven strategists of the Northern Fleet was on combat patrol

Or have you heard a lot about the combat patrols of the newest Boreans. It seems that not one has yet been committed

And here they are talking nonsense about new tactics and parity

[Private-K]

And I don’t argue with you! I am your LJ subscriber.
But ...
This is not just about patrolling by the SSBNs. As I understand it, we are talking about a way out. The nuclear submarine-RPK on patrols in the North Atlantic. And in general, activity grew. fleet.
I. The graphs you have given already clearly demonstrate that during the 90s there was a landslide decline with the rise to zero of combat patrols. SSBN. Moreover, against the background of a deliberate process of general degradation of the Navy, as well as all the RF Armed Forces. And a fundamental nuance is buried in the fact that after the year 2000 there should have been no patrols and access to the sea-ocean at all! But they are, and their number will be adjusted at a certain level recognized as sufficient - even two SSBNs on a permanent basis at sea for two fleets (in total 4) is quite enough.
And, notice the indirect indicator - the reaction of the enemy. And the enemy was growing up. ph purely do not give a damn. And now, no. For some reason.

[Cresta999]

The enemy simply saw the opportunity to get additional finances and yearned for the presence of the enemy.

[Eugene-Eugene]

note - when the schedule breaks: 2012

[krot]

Watch more TV

I agree with the previous speaker! Why are your schedules until 2012, and photos of parking at the pier 2015? It seems to me that the situation is completely different than 5 years ago, not to mention a decade ago. In general, why heat up the situation even more? (After all, an increase in combat patrols is just that) Why should the adversary open all the cards?

All the same submarines as 20 years ago

20 years ago were there "Calibers" on submarines? Poseidon and Zircon are on their way ..
The feeling that you are "at war" tactically .. And Putin strategically.

[Eugene-Eugene]

Again, Kaptsov surfaced, a wary animal.

[gurzuf]

Yes, the American naval commander demands money.

[Goblin]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

To be honest, ofigel, is it that the Americans now have multiple numerical superiority and do not provide parity ?!

Well, the Admiral already said the new tactics of the Russians, and even earlier someone from the NATO generals also spoke out to learn from the Russians with the least possible ability to provide maximum protection ..
As the saying goes, "it's tricky to use fiction ..." ..Let's learn slowly.
The good news, although I do not like it when a potential adversary starts to praise .. (I’m used to it when they get hay and everything is gone ..))))

[smart ass]

The article is nothing, what are the tricks? What are some examples?

[Charik]

Yes, they met a scout from Russia near the east coast and went crazy, they got used to no one, probably even the NATO ones are even at the invitation

[den3080]

At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

The American vice admiral wanted the Russians to send a boarding or inspection team to check the crew’s certificates? :)) or simply asked: Hey there, to the bar ... on Makhan, do you have certificates? advanced training passed ??

[svp67]

Quote: den3080

The American vice admiral wanted the Russians to send a boarding or inspection team to check the crew’s certificates? :)) or simply asked: Hey there, to the bar ... on Makhan, do you have certificates? advanced training passed ??

But interestingly, the admiral did not think that the Russians had sent the "examination commission". The result of the exam is deplorable, the American sailors were sent for retake, or they could have gone to the seabed ...

[Zhan]

Quote: den3080

At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

The American vice admiral wanted the Russians to send a boarding or inspection team to check the crew’s certificates? :)) or simply asked: Hey there, to the bar ... on Makhan, do you have certificates? advanced training passed ??

I’m sitting in front of myself ...
Yeah, and then complained about the damned bureaucrats of NATO and scored an arrow in another place after certification ...

[Amateur]

Vice Admiral wanted the Russians to send a boarding or security team to verify crew certificates

Well, something like this (like Iran)

[Theodore]

And what will happen when Poseidon appears there .... Do they start jumping into the windows?

[Paul Siebert]

Will they start jumping into the windows? crying

Fedya, there are no windows in the fleet ...
There are portholes. In our jargon - "lumiki."
Light-faced are stuck in them ... Burgers should be eaten less! ...

[Same lech]

USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) crosses the Atlantic Ocean, July 5, 2019

The photo is interesting ... but I thought that Poseidon exploded nearby.

[Guru]

At the same time, the Russians “didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training”

. Yeah We will beat according to the Muzzle, and not according to the certificate.

[bessmertniy]

On the impudent red face.

[Gardamir]

Funny little article. As they say here, if we are scolded, then we are doing everything right. And if praised, how is this admiral? ..

[mark2]

And he praises, he achs that again the terrible Russians get in the way. Give me money.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Ehhe how many tagged Judas with the khinkali of the sea territory gave?

[parkello]

and sold to Germany ... suk .... with these Shevarnadze .. also that same beast ... withdrew troops and live as you like. all of them are oiled up in one world ... only it wasn’t world .. by the smell it became visible. they weren’t shot in vain at the time ... well, Comrade Yazov was recently awarded ... for which it is not clear. it was necessary to shoot and publicly .. less scum would sprout and mutate. such generals dipped in shit face .. Rokhlina, Gracheva .. and many more .. well, nothing, leave it to God .. they will be rewarded more ...

[rotmistr60]

They [2nd Fleet Sailors] have to deal with the presence of Russian forces in ways that have not been done for decades.

Or maybe you need to be simpler and more restrained, while not claiming all the seas and oceans? You carry out your tasks, our sailors. But it struck

Russian "it didn’t matter that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

Do we need to wait until you are ready and for your complete pleasure to substitute the side of your ship for a missile-artillery strike?

[Guru]

But it struck
Russian "it didn’t matter that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

I laughed heartily

[eklmn]

Original article here:
2019 Dec
“The US Navy is created to counter Russian submarines”
https://news.usni.org/2019/12/31/u-s-fleet-created-to-counter-russian-subs-now-fully-operational
“... but several sources have confirmed to USNI News that the fleet’s goal is to provide command control throughout the theater of operations against Russians against submarines.
New Russian attack submarines are equipped with new generation missiles with a flight range that puts most European capitals at risk. The Kremlin is also developing a new high-speed torpedo with a nuclear warhead.
Navy leaders recently noted an increase in the activity of Russian submarines. ”
...
““ We are witnessing a rise in activity of the submarine fleet of the Russian Federation, which we have not seen for a long time. Russia continues to invest in underwater territories; it’s an asymmetric way to challenge the West and the NATO alliance, and they actually did pretty well, ”said Admiral James Foggo, commander of the US Navy in Europe and Africa and command of the Allied Forces in Naples, earlier this month. "Our submarine forces still have a competitive advantage, I think we are the best in the world, and we must remain so."
But nowhere in this article have I found words / phrases about USS Mahan (DDG-72) and his meeting with Viktor Leonov, open and see for yourself.
I think that the author accidentally wanted to add a degree of patriotism
(you see prices in Russia have risen for something ...)

[Eugene-Eugene]

So look for it: https://news.usni.org/2020/02/04/as-russian-submarines-lurk-2nd-fleet-conducting-tougher-training-of-east-coast-ships

[Deck]

As an example, Lewis noted that the USS Mahan (DDG-72) was at sea in the early stages of preparation at the end of 2019 and collided with a Russian reconnaissance ship off the east coast of the United States. He said that the Russian ship is not WILL BEtakes care that the crew of Mahan was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo advanced training; the destroyer had to be ready to maintain its safety in this environment no matter where it was in the training cycle

Just one word "will" was missing due to poor knowledge of English, but how the meaning has changed. This is what the skill of a propagandist is called! Instead of calling on the American admiral to "raise the level of combat and political training," a pitiful bleating. The patriotic audience is delighted and throws their caps into the air.

[pipetro]

Are you people here for complete fools? Everything is there in the past:

He said the Russian ship didn't care that Mahan's crew wasn't fully certified to conduct operations and hadn't gone through advanced training; the destroyer had to be ready to keep itself safe in that environment regardless of where it was in the training cycle.

[Eugene-Eugene]

The main thing is to throw him, allegedly "catching" in a lie, and then you can switch to another account, continuing to "reveal the propagandists."

[Deck]

The creative person can be seen right away - he’ll come up with something on the go!

[Eugene-Eugene]

So didn't it translate anyway?

[eklmn]

“So look for: ...”
So this is another compote! Indeed there is info about Leonov! Sorry, but they themselves are to blame - the editors have a manner not to put sources, as a result of which misunderstandings arise. Well, just like with Leonov (from your link):
“The US Coast Guard has received reports that RFN Victor Leonov (AGI-175) was working unsafe off the coast of South Carolina and Georgia,” the Coast Guard notice in Charleston, S.S.
“This unsafe operation includes not turning on the navigation lights in conditions of limited visibility, not responding to the huge number of commercial ships trying to coordinate a safe passage and trying to contact a Russian ship to coordinate direction.”
Those. the Russian ship was not gentlemanly. The Russian language has many synonyms for this behavior.
So - I leave my words about adding a “degree of patriotism”. ” The words "... probably raised the prices .." - I clean. Instead of them - “because of the inadmissibility of the World Cup-2022”.

[Vasyan1971]

At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

What? Like, since you are not ready and not certified, then we will come later ... Yeah.

[Alex_Bora]

Yeah, the Russians entered "without asking, almost without knocking" and made an entry in the logbook or in the Book of Honorary Visitors: "Learn military affairs in a real way"

[rocket757]

They [2nd Fleet Sailors] have to deal with the presence of Russian forces in ways that have not been done for decades.

He doesn’t remember how it was in the days of the USSR and all right.
What can I say about them now .... yes figs you will understand, with whom and how he is going to fight, since our FLEET is nowhere in particular, there is simply nothing, so far, someone to "threaten" !!!
Dreamer or bamboo smoked !!!

[g1washntwn]

It reminds the letters of the German invaders from the front, saying that why the Russians are fighting dishonestly and we are raking.

[Victor March 47]

I am delighted.

“As an example, he cited the case when USS Mahan (DDG-72) [an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer] was at sea at the end of 2019 during the restoration of combat readiness and collided with a Russian reconnaissance ship off the east coast of the United States. it didn't matter that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not receive advanced training. "

It follows that the face must be beaten, after asking for a passport, driver's license, certificate, medical insurance and finding out the bank account.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Victor March 47

USS Mahan (DDG-72) [Arly Burke-type destroyer] was at sea at the end of 2019 during the restoration of combat readiness and collided with a Russian reconnaissance ship off the east coast of the USA.

It touches me that warship could run into Russian RZK! Well, what kind of officer should you be in order not to disperse in the SEA (!) With a single target!? in clear weather ...
Well, if they have such a "training" and practice of sailing, then I understand the concern of V / A Foggo. - It's time to look for new tactics, evasion from "forward" !!! Otherwise, you will have to put all the cash of the NK on repairs.
And these terrible Russians have submarines ... But they are not visible at all! That's where the ambush

[dzvero]

Submarines are still nothing. What would happen if faced with etim

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Deck

Just one word "will"

Fuck them all. Let them justify themselves if they want to. And let, as the saying goes, "either he stole, or it was stolen from him" .... Special thanks to the translator.

[Ros 56]

Get used to striped, here you are not here. You are exceptional, so we exclude you from the list of almighty, it’s time and honor to know.

[CBR600]

In my opinion, pure PR with justification for allocating a budget. And note the reference to the threat of Europe and NATO forces. Amers have problems with the fleet. But we do not have much, especially with bases (in Africa, for example).
Read- Russians need to be afraid! Therefore, give money, and those that gave them little and have already spent.

[Operator]

"the Russians" didn't care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training. ", - like before each conflict at sea there must be a mandatory verification of internationally recognized crew certificates

What is the admiral's right - in a local nuclear war on the European theater of war, it is possible to send naval convoys to the ports of the nuclear powers of Britain and France, but why is it the United States, whose soldiers fall under the radioactive winds from Central, Northern and Southern Europe?

[Dmitriy66]

Quote: “The Russians didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo advanced training.” Can you laugh after that?

[Pavel57]

America is not that, and the admiral is not that.

[silver_roman]

The general used all his eloquence to somehow justify the existence of 2 US fleets.
Although the "threats" are clearly far-fetched, the tail and not only.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: silver_roman

Although the "threats" are clearly far-fetched, the tail and not only.

Commander of the 2nd Fl. United States Navy Foggo - military pro. And he absolutely correctly points out threats from sea directions for the capitals of the European countries of NATO. That is, from where they do not expect it. Therefore, his speech implicitly pushes the leadership of these countries to strengthen anti-aircraft defense at the Central Administration of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The reception is not tricky, but effective. Foggo is far from a nerd. And from his belfry he looks at things soberly, at least in the interests of the 2nd fl. US Navy.
AHA.

[Voltsky]

They [2nd Fleet Sailors] have to deal with the presence of Russian forces in ways that have not been done for decades.

What a horror, I already shed a tear ... There has never been such a thing, and here again !!!

[Barack Obama]

= Russian "it was all the same that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training." =
Never get a certificate. If only to buy ...

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Operator

"the Russians" didn't care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training. ", - like before each conflict at sea there must be a mandatory verification of internationally recognized crew certificates

What is the admiral's right - in a local nuclear war on the European theater of war, it is possible to send naval convoys to the ports of the nuclear powers of Britain and France, but why is it the United States, whose soldiers fall under the radioactive winds from Central, Northern and Southern Europe?

It may well be that these winds will be less radioactive than in their own homeland.

[Guazdilla]

"The actions of the US Navy are complicated due to new tactics of Russians in the Atlantic"

There is support for covering a special operation to prepare for the completion of the construction of the Russian Navy IHL Nord Stream-2.
And the fright of the Americans can be explained by information from the Danes.
Danish military experts say their companion, Ulloriaq, discovered back in January 2020 a hustle and bustle in Danish waters at the point where construction had ceased.
1 Project 941 Shark heavy missile submarine cruiser (3rd generation SSBN) carried out underwater patrol of the completion area;
4 deep-water bathyscaphes of the project 1855 Prize maneuvered
and IHL Nord Stream-2 is slowly being completed from north to south.
The prizes upgraded at the Kanonersky Zavod are equipped with a hyperbaric welding system used at elevated pressures at depths of up to 700 meters.
However, only bathyscaphes and divers are not enough for pipe laying.
We also need, in fact, pipes.
Presumably, the military experts stuffed the pipes into the Shark missile silos using special technology.

The picture shows 20 mines for R-29RM ballistic missiles, where pipes for the Northern Stream-2 MHP can fit.
The technology for using Shark-type project 941 submarines for the construction of offshore sections of gas pipelines could revolutionize this service market.
Left-handed people in Russia are not extinct.
But, probably, nevertheless, preparations are underway for laying and TUB Fortuna, which will deliver pipes to the place of laying, and divers will receive and weld them hyperbaric.

[K-50]

At the same time, the Russians "didn’t care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training."

Is it that, when meeting with a pin-deep trough, our sailors should ask for a training certificate from a potential enemy?
Oh, nonsense!
What difference does it make to anyone who is swimming there, trained, or they were kicked out on a destroyer or something else for fishing.

[Mihail2019]

"At the same time, the Russians" did not care that the USS Mahan crew was not fully certified for operations and did not undergo in-depth training. "- that is, they hung the letter" U "in a white triangle with a red border, and ours did not notice that it was there was a "training machine with a blonde at the wheel" ?!
What kind of nonsense does this person say ?!

[Mihail2019]

"You are killing me illegally - I am not certified to die!" - fierce delirium!
We did not take into account that the crew of their battleship was not "certified and did not undergo in-depth training" - put out the lights, drain the water!
Yes, we still didn’t wipe their asses and kissed them on the forehead - in short, we waged a psychological war in violation of all international humanitarian norms!
Paragraph!!

[codetalker]

Strange, but experts at VO said that the remnants of Russia's submarine fleet were about to fall apart, and there would be nothing new.

[lvov_aleksey]

my repeat, they began to respect us !!!

[aleksandrs95]

With regards to the submarines standing at the pier, I see nothing wrong if they are not there for long. as far as the American admiral’s fears are concerned, the boats are not young and there are not many new products on them; we are still preparing for a mine war on the expanses of the oceans and nuclear deterrence. The fleet’s goal is not to kill the enemy’s fleet, but to inflict extremely significant damage (the possibilities are too unequal). Zircons alone will not be offended, the mine war is the most. For the installation of such mines, it would be nice if Poseidon planting orbiting torpedoes here and there like mines. Then any movement of surface ships would become problematic and risky. The truth here is to invent and produce new products of defeat.

[Charik]

"our ships can no longer expect to operate in a safe haven" - it's just that my brain refuses to give the concept of this expression, how to act while in a safe haven

[pafegosoff]

Scout ship scared? And if something more terrible: a large autonomous freezing trawler ?!

[IC]

Given the extremely small number of Russian submarines remaining in service, the admiral's statement has a completely different purpose. Namely, the traditional policy of justifying an increase in the budget of the Navy.