But on the other hand. Tank commissar who stumbled

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But on the other hand. Tank commissar who stumbled

"I do what I want"


In the previous part stories the controversial figure of the director of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant dealt with abuses and outright theft, which the general and laureate of the State Prize bred in his patrimony.

As it turned out, the first signals about the inappropriate behavior of Zaltsman, bordering on bestiality, began to come in 1942. Prosecutor Viktor Bochkov, based on an audit of the activities of Tankograd, established that the main reason for the chronic malnutrition of plant workers and their families was the theft of food by managers. On June 28, 1942, the prosecutor reported to Molotov, the curator tank topics in GKO, the following:



“An investigation carried out by the USSR Prosecutor's Office established: in the first half of 1942, employees of the URS of the Kirov plant in the city of Chelyabinsk squandered rationed food funds: meat and fish - 75133 kg, fat - 13824 kg, cereals - 3007 kg, sugar - 2098 kg, cheese - 1539 kg and others. The illegal spending of these products was carried out for special supply (special rations) and food for the command personnel of the plant, without cutting coupons from food cards. According to arbitrary standards approved by the former director of the plant, Comrade Salzman, several hundred people of the plant’s command staff received 15 kg of meat, 4 kg of butter, 5 kg of fish and caviar, 20 pcs. eggs and other products. "


Further, Viktor Bochkov continues already directly about Isaac Zaltsman:

“At the beginning of 1942, Comrade Zaltsman moved from the Kirov Plant to Nizhny Tagil to the position of Director of Plant No. 183, and by his order, products for 9529 rubles were loaded into his car (due to the Kirov Plant). Among the products were: 50 kg of cereals, 25 kg of sugar, 100 kg of wheat flour, 20 liters of alcohol, meat products - 155 kg, 50 kg of butter, 40 kg of vermicelli, etc. In addition, from the production and technical funds of the plant were 320 liters of rectified alcohol were taken, which was transferred through the URS to the director’s canteen of the factory for drinking and distributed to apartments of individual factory workers. ”

As we know, these reports did not lead to anything: in mid-1942, Zaltsman was promoted to the people's commissar of the tank industry, and all investigations by the prosecutor's office were stopped.


A little later, Zaltsman asked Vyacheslav Malyshev for the reconstruction of two summer cottages for the factory managers. The limit was allocated to the director of 200 rubles, but the “tank king” was sold at 000 rubles, which were withdrawn from the funds for the construction of housing for workers. In general, the very fact of using at the height of the war even 531480 thousand rubles, sanctioned by Malshev, for the openly lordly needs of leaders causes outrage. And then there is an almost three-fold excess of the limit due to the housing of workers. Zaltsman, in particular, for this money completely furnished the dachas, one of which he kept for himself, and presented the second to the first secretary of the Chelyabinsk regional committee N. S. Patolichev. In addition to the fact that the director of the plant kept a staff of servants at his dacha, he often spent heavily on banquets - eyewitnesses talk about 200-10 thousand rubles at a time. The regulars of the stormy gatherings at Zaltsman's dacha were the mentioned Patolichev, as well as Major General Jacob Rapopport, chief of Chelyabmetallurgstroy.


Another important drawback of Isaac Zaltsman as a leader was his intolerance towards a different opinion - this led to the departure of talented managers and engineers from tank building. So, the chief designer of the tank design bureau Boris Evgrafovich Arkhangelsky moved to another plant. After the war, he became the chief designer of the Lipetsk Tractor Plant, was awarded the Stalin Prize for the development of the design of the Kirovets D-35 tractor, which turned out to be so successful that its main components were manufactured in the USSR until 1973. He also removed the deputy chief engineer from the Salzman plant. Nikolai Nikolaevich Perovsky, an old-timer of the Chelyabinsk Tractor, who later became deputy minister and laureate of the Stalin Prize. The future director of the Kharkov Tractor and Gorky Automobile Factories, Deputy Minister of the USSR Automotive Industry, Stalin Prize laureate, deputy of the Supreme Council of the USSR Pavel Yakovlevich Lisnyak was also forced to leave ChTZ as the head of the blacksmith shop. These people and dozens of others gradually formed the anti-Salzmann lobby in the highest echelons of power, which had a great influence on the outcome of the “Salzmann case”.


Why didn’t Isaac Salzman stop in time? Indeed, literally everyone in Chelyabinsk knew about the boorish tricks of the general, corruption at the factory and outright theft. In an interview, the disgraced commissar said in this connection the following:

“A commission arrived in Chelyabinsk, began to collect incriminating evidence against me and informed me that I had been expelled from the party and arrested. It was the year 1949. Then, when in Leningrad, on the monument to the defenders of the city, the names of the Heroes of Socialist Labor were embossed in golden letters and my name is among them. Do not be ashamed! "

By the way, no one arrested Zaltsman, it was part of the myth that he carefully created in the 70-80s. But the commission that arrived to hunt for the “tank king” really was, and as a result, on September 6, 1949, the bureau of the Party Control Commission under the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks made the decision “On the misbehavior of Salzman Isaak Moiseevich (member of the All-Union Communist Party of ) since 1928, party ticket No. 3010124). ” It was formulated as follows:

“The audit established that Zaltsman I. M., being the director of the Kirov Plant (Chelyabinsk), despite repeated warnings of the party bodies in connection with the facts of his intolerant, mocking attitude towards subordinate employees, continued to behave unworthy of the Soviet leader,” he admitted roughly abusive, degrading treatment of Soviet people by subordinates, as well as in the office of the factory administration and enterprises, surrounded himself with people who did not deserve political and business confidence, and when they were exposed He defended these wicked men. ... at the expense of the plant spent significant amounts on the acquisition of valuable gifts for some former Leningrad leaders. For indecent behavior, exclude Zaltsman IM from the ranks of the CPSU (b). ”

It should be understood here that Zaltsman’s possible involvement in the Leningrad affair and the Jewish Antifascist Committee’s case automatically led to criminal prosecution. Even a simple charge of corruption and theft at the Chelyabinsk Kirov Plant would lead to a guaranteed camp term. And here, even the awards were not withdrawn from Zaltsman. One of the versions of such a humane attitude to the “tank king” was the recognition of his organizational merits during the Great Patriotic War by Joseph Stalin himself.

All due to overwork


On October 22, 1949, non-partisan and dismissed from all posts Zaltsman was accepted as a senior technologist and deputy head of the mechanical workshop of factory No. 480 of the Ministry of Transport Engineering in the city of Murom. We must pay tribute, the former strong-willed director did not wilted and launched a whole campaign to restore his good name. First things first, it was necessary to recover in the party, and in 1951, Salzman submitted the first relevant request. They refused him.


The second petition was filed by the former People’s Commissar being in the status of senior master of the mechanical section of the workshop of the plant No. 201 in Orel. By the way, in both letters Zaltsman admits his mistakes and asks "to find an opportunity to mitigate the measure of party penalties." This insistence is understandable - non-partisan workers actually had no opportunity to move up the career ladder.


However, the party leadership was adamant. Chance to Salzman fell with Stalin's death, and he did not fail to use it - on April 13, Salzman wrote to the chairman of the Party Control Committee under the Central Committee of the CPSU Shkiryatov:

“Without removing or mitigating any serious mistakes made by me: rudeness, improper management of the plant, protection of offending personnel, participation in sending gifts as an unacceptable violation of state discipline, I ask you to take into account that I’ve been conscious throughout all my years life was devoted to the cause of the great party of Lenin - Stalin. In the difficult years of the life of our country, the staff of the plant in which I worked honorably coped with the tasks assigned to it by the party and the government. Over the past 4 years, I have pondered day and night, checking my life path. The son of a tailor, I owe my whole life, knowledge, and experience to my native party and the Soviet government. Brought up by the Komsomol and the party, I am guilty of making serious mistakes, but with all my soul, with all my thoughts I have always been devoted to the cause of the Lenin-Stalin party. I ask the Central Committee to bring me back to life, to show confidence in being a member of the great party of Lenin - Stalin. I will justify this trust. "

And again, all the efforts of Zaltsman idle. And in 1954, Shkiryatov himself died, who was one of the initiators of the “Zaltsman case”.


Now I had to write to Shkiryatov’s successor, Pavel Komarov, who in April 1955 read from the former People’s Commissar, we quote the original:

“Over the years of the war, working as the director of the Chelyabinsk Kirov Plant, I have committed a number of rudeness in relation to some senior employees of the plant. Being guilty before the party for the committed behavior unworthy of a communist, I tried during these 6 years to completely correct the mistakes made. Rudeness took place in relation to some of the leaders of the plant in conditions where I did not sleep for weeks and did not leave the plant. Desiring to win minutes to complete the tasks of the party and government, being overworked, I showed temper and unacceptable rudeness. Unfortunately, I sometimes did not give these errors a proper assessment, and no one corrected me in a timely manner ... I understand that I was entirely to blame for the mistakes I made, I only regret that in those years I was not strictly warned in a timely manner and did not call for order. I am sure that then it would not be necessary to apply the highest measure of party punishment to me. I ask the CCP to take into account that during my stay in the party for 21 years I did not have any party penalties ... I ask the CCP to trust me and restore me to the ranks of the CPSU. I will justify the confidence of the party. "

This time, Zaltsman was reinstated in the CPSU, but the former “tank king” was not completely satisfied with the results. The party membership card included a break in party experience from September 1949 to April 1955 - this seriously damaged the reputation of Isaac Zaltsman, who was gaining weight again (he again became the director of the plant).

He managed to get a “clean” ticket only in February 1981, when the secretariat of the XXVI Congress of the CPSU made a decision on the disgraced commissar.

In 1988, Isaac Zaltsman celebrated the 60th anniversary of his “continuous” stay in the Communist Party and died peacefully at the age of 82.
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  1. +15
    7 February 2020 06: 06
    Well, what can you say, especially to those who believe that there was no corruption during Stalin's time? On good terms, the "hero" of the article had to be deprived of all titles and regalia and ordered to work under Article 58 in some sharashkin office, like Tupolev in his time.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 06: 28
      One of the versions of such a humane attitude to the “tank king” was the recognition of his organizational merits during the Great Patriotic War by Joseph Stalin himself.
      Is this corruption in your opinion? Without protecting Zaltsman at all, we must admit that he did a lot for the Victory. In the end, the same Zhukov, despite all his art, was also not brought to trial after the Victory.
      1. +6
        7 February 2020 06: 45
        Senior Technologist and Deputy Head of the Machine Shop
        And this is after the People's Commissar! They gave me a hat ...
        1. +18
          7 February 2020 07: 02
          In China, Zaltsman would have been given a tower without any problems. Despite the merits. what But in our country a collective farmer was awarded a term for a bag of potatoes, but here and in leading posts they allowed to continue working, and were restored in the party. However, by the time of its restoration, the party had somehow degraded. request
          1. +15
            7 February 2020 07: 51
            Quote: bessmertniy
            However, by the time of its restoration, the party had somehow degraded.

            because by this time those who ate from the hands of the same Salzmanns came to leadership in the party, hence the decay.
        2. +4
          7 February 2020 09: 29
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          They gave me a hat ...

          Well, they stroked it on the head, by the standards of those times, Tupolev and for less "merits" were put into a sharashka, I'm not talking about Vavilov.
      2. +31
        7 February 2020 06: 56
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Is this corruption in your opinion?

        It depends on how you look at these "arts". In besieged Leningrad, the baker Daniil Ivanovich Kyutinen, baking bread, died in 1942 from exhaustion, without taking a crumbs for himself! And Isaac Moiseevich, even without these "arts", did not starve. This is the whole morality and social responsibility.
        1. 0
          7 February 2020 11: 22
          In besieged Leningrad at the bakeries, at the workplace, bread was not forbidden. For the removal of bread from the enterprise - execution.
        2. 0
          7 February 2020 17: 11
          The fate of the country sometimes depended on Zaltsman.
      3. +1
        10 February 2020 09: 16
        So what? If you can do a lot for the good of the country, then can you use it, exceed your official powers? If you caught a thief, then you can steal yourself? Your position is strange. Isn't the law one for everyone? Whatever your merits, you cannot be above the law, ethical and moral standards. Or do you prefer to selectively apply the force of law? This is obvious corruption, worse, it is a betrayal of his people, who was bleeding at the front and in the rear, while he built dachas for himself, he stole rations of workers. And if he was not shot then, then most likely he bribed representatives of the supervisory authorities. This is a clear corruption.
    2. +7
      7 February 2020 06: 52
      And who claims that under Stalin there was no corruption ??? There would be no corruption and other high-profile crimes - there would not be so many high-profile cases. The question is not whether corruption was or was not there. The question is that under Stalin they fought with it. Do not confuse cause and effect.
      As for Zaltsman, then, I believe, his art did not reach the critical mass. Got what is due.
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 07: 54
        Well yes. They thought that this, of course, is a scoundrel, but this is our scoundrel. request
      2. +4
        7 February 2020 07: 57
        Quote: Dalny V
        The question is that under Stalin they fought with it.

        As it turned out, the first signals about the inappropriate behavior of Zaltsman, bordering on bestiality, began to come in 1942.
        An investigation carried out by the USSR Prosecutor's Office established: in the first half of 1942, employees of the URS of the Kirov plant in the city of Chelyabinsk squandered rationed food funds: meat and fish - 75133 kg, fats - 13824 kg, cereals - 3007 kg, sugar - 2098 kg, cheese - 1539 kg and etc.
        there is famine in the country, and to this thief, at his request, they give out 200000 for the construction of two dachas (when was he going to have a rest there?) and after the theft of the amount twice the allocated funds and other arts, pulling to the tower at that time
        in mid-1942, Zaltsman was promoted to the people's commissar of the tank industry, and all investigations by the prosecutor's office were discontinued.
        Such a good fight against corruption what
        1. +2
          7 February 2020 08: 10
          My eyes tell me that the third of the quotations you cited does not mention Salzmann:
          in the first half of 1942, employees of the URS of the Kirov plant in Chelyabinsk squandered
          My eyes don't fool me, don't they?
          to this thief, at his request, they give out 200000 for the construction of two summer houses
          And in the justification, he wrote - to build two cottages? Or lied to something? Have you read the rationale? In the article it is not given.
          in mid-1942, Zaltsman was promoted to the people's commissar of the tank industry, and all investigations by the prosecutor's office were discontinued.

          Such a good fight against corruption

          Maybe the fact is that he gave the necessary result, and at that time (war, I remind you), his shortcomings were insignificant in comparison with his usefulness?
          1. +5
            7 February 2020 08: 36
            Quote: Dalny V
            My eyes tell me that the third of the quotations you cited does not mention Salzmann:

            and your eyes see only what is "needed", and your mind does not tell you that URS is subordinate to this Saltsman and that later in the same quote
            According to arbitrary standards approved by the former director of the plant, Comrade Salzman, several hundred people of the plant’s command staff received 15 kg of meat, 4 kg of butter, 5 kg of fish and caviar, 20 pcs. Each month in the dining room and from the warehouse of the URS. eggs and other products.
            Quote: Dalny V
            My eyes don't fool me, don't they?

            eyes do not cheat, much worse, the mind does not think, right?
            Quote: Dalny V
            And in the justification, he wrote - to build two cottages?

            mind again failed? The question is not even about building cottages, although this too, but about doubling the limits
            Quote: Dalny V
            Maybe the fact is that he gave the necessary result.

            you can read about the necessary results by connecting your mind and eyes that don’t lie, about the chronic lagging behind plans for the production of tanks and their quality limping on all four legs, while he dispersed competent specialists from the factory entrusted to him. That feeling. that your eyes didn’t read the article, no?
        2. +2
          7 February 2020 18: 06
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Quote: Dalny V
          The question is that under Stalin they fought with it.

          As it turned out, the first signals about the inappropriate behavior of Zaltsman, bordering on bestiality, began to come in 1942.
          An investigation carried out by the USSR Prosecutor's Office established: in the first half of 1942, employees of the URS of the Kirov plant in the city of Chelyabinsk squandered rationed food funds: meat and fish - 75133 kg, fats - 13824 kg, cereals - 3007 kg, sugar - 2098 kg, cheese - 1539 kg and etc.
          there is famine in the country, and to this thief, at his request, they give out 200000 for the construction of two dachas (when was he going to have a rest there?) and after the theft of the amount twice the allocated funds and other arts, pulling to the tower at that time
          in mid-1942, Zaltsman was promoted to the people's commissar of the tank industry, and all investigations by the prosecutor's office were discontinued.
          Such a good fight against corruption what

          War is when the country needs tanks. And you would definitely be planted. laughing
      3. -1
        7 February 2020 08: 28
        Quote: Dalny V
        The question is that under Stalin they fought with it.

        "They fought, fought, but they themselves crashed!"
      4. -1
        7 February 2020 08: 48
        There would be no corruption and other high-profile crimes - there would not be so many high-profile cases.

        no one to rehabilitate
    3. -4
      7 February 2020 09: 15
      Oh come on, little is being written about to liberals; he organized the production of tanks, you would have looked at you in his place then
      1. +1
        7 February 2020 10: 38
        Quote: Uncle Izya
        he organized the production of tanks

        So Serdyukov organized ... So if in your opinion if something is well organized, is everything possible? Well done!
        1. -3
          7 February 2020 11: 04
          Yes, really if Salzman would fail the task he would be shot
    4. +1
      7 February 2020 09: 52
      Quote: Pecheneg
      For the good of the "hero" of the article, it was necessary to deprive all titles and regalia and send him to work in some sharashka office under Article 58, as Tupolev in my time.

      Tupolev was brilliant An engineer... And this miracle was an ordinary "effective" "manager" (manager) - such that tanks are built, that pigs are inseminated - everything is one.

      With such a transcendental level of theft of this subject (and this is only the tip!), There should have been long torture with a graying execution, but no: "they don't give up their own!"

      This is for three spikelets tens of thousands of starving people were shot, and new bars can do anything!
      Even during the war he made a browing, robbing the starving workers, arranging drunken parties and scum. But in the Urals there was a terrible famine, even cannibalism was, thousands lived in dugouts!

      No words ...

      Yeah, then this "did not happen" .... negative
      1. +3
        7 February 2020 18: 13
        Quote: Olgovich
        It’s for three spikelets tens of thousands of starving people were shot,

        Well, how much can you fantasize?
    5. +4
      7 February 2020 21: 34
      1. No need to idealize Tupolev.
      He was more capable of competing designers, and let them down under the spread of denunciations, and their design bureaus were dispersed from it, etc.

      2. Abuses of directors who have received general ranks were not at all uncommon.
      I know what I'm talking about not from the Internet.

      3.And to compare its scale with the current scale of embezzlement of directors and ministers, this is laughter.
      That's just the sense of the present, unlike those - not a needle.
      Orders and, especially, the Golden Stars for the labor front gave extremely sparingly.

      The article shows that the People's Commissariat of State Control worked and the controllers of the speaker were afraid as hell incense.
      1. +2
        8 February 2020 10: 24
        Quote: RoTTor
        No need to idealize Tupolev.
        He was more capable of competing designers, and let them down under the spread of denunciations, and their design bureaus were dispersed from it, etc.

        But even then there were enough projectors, one story with Kurchevsky is worth it.
        Quote: RoTTor
        Abuses of directors who have received general ranks were not uncommon.

        They received ranks for the period of the war, but even without the ranks, plant directors could be abused, so the matter is not in the rank.
        Quote: RoTTor
        And to compare its scale with the current scale of embezzlement of directors and ministers is laughter.

        Here I completely agree - it is impossible to even compare, because the Soviet leaders deservedly received the benefits they earned.
        Quote: RoTTor
        The article shows that the People's Commissariat of State Control worked and the controllers of the speaker were afraid as hell incense.

        That's for sure, they worked honestly, which is why they were afraid of party and state control of those years.
      2. 0
        9 February 2020 09: 35
        Tupolev is still a bastard ... it’s a pity that he wasn’t shot, as well as Zaltsman. Read the memoirs of Air Marshal Reshetnikov, there the Tupolev gang appeared in the whole cross.
    6. -3
      8 February 2020 02: 15
      Quote: Pecheneg
      Well, what can you say, especially to those who believe that there was no corruption during Stalin's time? On good terms, the "hero" of the article had to be deprived of all titles and regalia and ordered to work under Article 58 in some sharashkin office, like Tupolev in his time.

      Custom business has always been and always will be ...
      What they are trying to call corruption under Stalin today excites nothing except laughter.
      Director of the Main Plant of the country, The person who was responsible for the release of the country's main weapons, The person who really organized the Victory, bought furniture from the factory ....
      Joke.
      Why did he do that?
      Maybe saved bank deposits in Switzerland ???

      A person of a peculiar upbringing, strong and enterprising, taking care of his authority (this is his crime),
      ... the leader who sent the adjutant ahead, who said: "Comrade Zaltsman," and all the participants in the meeting got up ... This angered someone, after all, the manners' manners ... But they were forced to endure.
      And then this authority of Zaltsman worked to fulfill tasks that were sometimes incredible in scope and complexity. Zaltsman’s orders were executed much more accurately and faster than the orders of many, many other leaders.

      Output.
      Not today to condemn Zaltsman's "misdeeds".
      The reality of the past must be studied, Salzmann's experience must be studied especially closely.
      not without reason, the last decades have become a triumph of Salzmann - memorial plaques appeared, the street was named ...
      And I regard swearing at him as a spit into the past from "historians" aimed at debunking the "Stalinist legacy", that is, the defamation of the Soviet past.
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 09: 37
        Wow, how clever. If you worked in a foundry or a forge shop, without normal soldering that the Salzmanns and Rappoports plundered, you probably wrote a little differently.
        1. 0
          9 February 2020 14: 29
          Quote: ElTuristo
          Wow, how clever. If you worked in a foundry or a forge shop, without normal soldering that the Salzmanns and Rappoports plundered, you probably wrote a little differently.

          Frank nonsense.
          Zaltsman did not steal rations from workers. He didn’t steal anything at all.
          Zaltsman cared for the workers more than anyone else.
          And this was confirmed by those who really worked with him. Fortunately, I knew such people.
          1. 0
            9 February 2020 15: 33
            Yeah, innocently condemned, like Novikov and Shakhurin ...
      2. +2
        10 February 2020 10: 42
        Quote: Sergey S.
        Director of the Main Plant of the country, The person who was responsible for the release of the country's main weapons, The person who really organized the Victory, bought furniture from the factory ....
        Joke.
        Why did he do that?

        But because I'm used to impunity. Before the war, citizen Zaltsman generally forged documents and shipped armored tanks to the army (none of the remarks of the GABTU and the Mehlis commission on HF were eliminated) - and nothing, he became a people's commissar.
        Secretly
        People’s Commissar of Heavy Engineering
        Comrade Efremov A.I.
        From September 9 to September 12 this year according to your assignment, I checked the correctness of the KV tanks at the Kirov Plant and established the following:
        Of the 15 tanks shown in the month of July, 10 were taken by the ABTU military representative under the seal only on August 22-23, this year; 3 of them were presented by the OTK workshop on August 1-2 of this year, and the acceptance mileage of 7 cars passed from August 1 to August 10.
        It is established that in the period from August 7 to August 19 this year in defective acts of the Quality Control Department for each machine from 16 to 40 defects are indicated. As a result of this, the machines returned 2-3 times for correction.
        From the attached copies of the defective statements and the change table, it can be seen that 10 cars were in production for a significant part of the month of August. This is also confirmed by oral reports from the head of the Quality Department of the assembly shop. Ertman, Head of Division 1 — Comrade Landsberg and the head of the assembly shop - Comrade. Abramova. In this case, the head of the tank department Comrade. Landsberg stated that there was allegedly permission from the People's Commissariat to finish the July products and to sell them during the month of August.
        Acts of delivery of cars of the July issue were signed by the Head of the Quality Control Department of the shop, the head of the 1st department and the head of the assembly shop on the days of delivery of cars under the seal to the military representative of ABTU, i.e. dated 23.08; the military representative of ABTU, Comrade Shpitanov, did not sign these acts with the date “23.08”, but instructed the secretary of the production department to clean these dates and print a new “31.07”, which was printed in the secret department of the plant. At the same time, the previously signed acts of Comrade Landsberg and Comrade Abramov were not informed of the correction of the date of registration of the products.
        The clean-up on the acts is clearly visible and, in addition, on these acts there is a date from the preparation by the typist of the Secret Department - “06.08”.
        Of the 22 August cars, only 8 were actually delivered in August; 10 cars were presented to the military representative starting from the 1st to 06.09. At the same time, from September 1 to September 3, defective statements for these vehicles were compiled by OTC personnel and military acceptance technicians.
        The cars handed over under the seal on September 10.09 were not fully equipped with an irreplaceable spare parts. The delivery certificates for the August issue until September 12.09 have not yet been issued. Acts on only 4 cars were signed only by the head of the Quality Department of the assembly shop with the date "06.09". This also confirms the abnormal situation with products being sold at the Kirov Plant.
        I consider abnormal the procedure for registering marketable products established at the Kirov Plant. The head of the Quality Department of the plant or his deputy, as well as the director or his deputy, who are responsible for the quality and completeness of the delivered products on the basis of the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the USSR of 10.07.1940, do not sign acts. In the last days of the month, pressure begins on the shopkeepers of the Quality Department by the deputy. Director Comrade Zherekhov and Head of Quality Department of the Plant.
        Control by the accounting department of the plant for the correct merchandising of products is not organized.
        Thus, the facts indicated in the report of the head of the 4th sector of the Military Department - Comrade Bialiatski during the verification at the plant were fully confirmed.
        In order to correct the abnormalities that occurred during the stocking of July and August products in department No. 1 of the Kirov Plant, I am attaching a draft order.
        Head of the Military Department of the NKTM Blokhin
        18.10.1940
        1. -1
          11 February 2020 21: 29
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Before the war, citizen Zaltsman generally forged documents and shipped armored tanks to the army

          Army tanks accepted.
          I guess I also persuaded to put more ...

          This is a system error.
          So it was many times with different objects.

          By the way, is it really different now?
          Think of objects yourself. And which of the current leaders of enterprises blame?

          By weakness, by poverty, by fear, for the sake of peace (personal), by stupidity ...
          But I shifted the blame to a greater extent on the one who signs the acts of acceptance.
    7. -2
      10 February 2020 16: 15
      Quote: Pecheneg
      Well, what can you say, especially to those who believe that there was no corruption during Stalin's time? On good terms, the "hero" of the article had to be deprived of all titles and regalia and ordered to work under Article 58 in some sharashkin office, like Tupolev in his time.


      How easy it is to condemn a person without knowing his merits.

      And here is how the workers recall the removal of Zaltsman:
      From an essay about Akhmanayev:
      Akhmanayev experienced the care of Isaac Moiseevich about athletes. Once during a game in Sverdlovsk, fighting for the “horse” ball, Nikolai ran into an opponent. The blow fell right in the left temple. When Akhmanaev regained consciousness, he discovered that he did not see anything with his left eye. Obeying the telephone order of the “boss”, the injured player was immediately put on the notorious “corn-maker” and taken to Chelyabinsk. At the airport, a car was already waiting, sent by the director. Zaltsman gathered a consultation. Doctors confirmed: an operation is needed because blood vessels burst. Vision Akhmanayev saved ...
      ***
      And suddenly - like snow on his head - Zaltsman removed!
      Of course, sins were also committed to the all-powerful director of ChTZ. During the war years, he successfully established the production and supply of tanks for the front. And after the Victory, perhaps, he felt irreplaceable, always and in everything right, omnipotent and omnipotent. But often these accusations did not correspond to the true state of affairs, and sometimes they were ordinary slander.


      Krut was a word?
      Tatyana Shtanko, daughter of Isaac Zaltsman: “I remember the dugouts near our house. “75 thousand people worked at the plant, and 300 thousand lived here, given the families.”

      The working shift lasted 11 hours, people worked without days off and holidays. Zaltsman himself was even at night at the factory. Unable to cope with the task, the shop managers were fired and put to work at the machine tool. During discussions of important issues, the plant director put a gun on the table, threatening the guilty execution. However, everyone knew that this gun never fired. In the work of Zaltsman, the most exacting exactingness was combined with a careful attitude to the workers.

      The workers loved him, but by the end of the war there were enough "offended" by Zaltsman on business to remind him of the past.

      And what about the stolen food - well, this is complete nonsense: "fed" the leaders? And engineers and designers and workers! Didn't he eat in tons?
      What really happened:
      Leonid Zaltsman, son of Isaac Zaltsman: “When the veterans gathered, they recalled that during the war there were a lot of very young people standing at the machine. They worked for 10 and 12 hours and physically barely withstood it. Then the father introduced special rations for young people, they were called UDP. People jokingly called them: “You will die a day later.”


      Tatyana Shtanko, daughter of Isaac Zaltsman: “They demanded that he sign something on the Leningrad leadership on Kuznetsov, on Kapustin, who were then destroyed. He refused and always believed that he had done the right thing. ”

      The leaders of Leningrad, who were arrested in 1949, were convicted and executed, but closely connected with them, Zaltsman was left life. He was expelled from the party and dismissed from the post of director of the plant.

      Evgeny Zdanchuk, head of department I of the Design Bureau of the Kirov Plant: “He told me that at first they tried to arrest him on the pretext that he had a gun. It turned out that he was awarded either by Marshal Rokossovsky or Zhukov. Zaltsman handed him over to the military representative on the eve, and the linden failed. ”


      The leadership of the NKVD collected everything that could be accumulated on Zaltsman, independent leaders always irritated and tried to deal with him.
      Despite all the attempts of the spiteful critics - Zaltsman’s services to the country were not forgotten, Zaltsman Street in Chelyabinsk still exists.
  2. Eug
    +3
    7 February 2020 06: 49
    I read in one source about the gift of Comrade Zaltsman comrade Kuznetsrvu is such a modest little owl of white gold in 1kg. Weight with diamond eyes ... however, I haven’t seen it anywhere else.
    1. +1
      7 February 2020 08: 23
      This was written by Yuri Ignatievich Mukhin, former editor-in-chief of the Duel and Svoyimyami newspapers.
      1. Eug
        +2
        7 February 2020 19: 17
        Yes, it was he ... He still has Saltzman’s reluctance to complicate his life by installing a more powerful cannon on the HF, but, as for me, it’s not about Zaltsman.
        1. +2
          7 February 2020 19: 27
          I agree, there was no finished gun, but under the fact that it was necessary to redo a lot - shoulder straps, etc.
    2. -1
      7 February 2020 08: 59
      The characteristic one is understandable - who ..... My father told me that he met the last Jew in a working specialty in 1967 .... no longer came across. wink
      1. +3
        7 February 2020 11: 16
        Hmm. In 1967, my late grandfather worked as a section foreman at a weighing plant (where he worked until his death in 1984), and my mother began to study at a technical school, then from 1972 to 2012 to work in hazardous industries. And in general, in my entire large family (uncles-aunts, grandparents, cousins-cousins), and in the family of my wife from the "non-working professions" there was one trade worker, two accountants, five or six nurses, a paramedic, chairman of the society of disabled and two lieutenant colonels (combined arms and navigator of the VTA). And so yes, since 1967 there have been no Jewish workers ...
      2. +4
        7 February 2020 19: 28
        Schweik said in such cases: "It is not a Magyar's fault that he is a Magyar ..."
        1. +3
          7 February 2020 23: 51
          Quote: Aviator_
          Schweik said in such cases: "It is not a Magyar's fault that he is a Magyar ..."

          Why do you look askance at families in which members sought to graduate? In the USSR, after 5 years of study at a university, I earned 4 rubles clean for the first 109 years. And workers who are younger than me, who followed my instructions 270 rubles. To advance in the engineering field, you must constantly learn and have talent on your own. And if there was neither one nor the other, then in the year 1987 it was possible to retire with a salary and long dirty service of about 150 rubles ...
      3. -4
        7 February 2020 21: 53
        She does not envy and do not slander.
        They knew that they could only get into people with a “fifth point” through higher education and science, and therefore they studied better at school and in universities, where it was not forbidden to take people of “wrong” nationalities. did.
        And the fact that Jews, Germans with higher education and academic degrees, non-sticky - in the "history of the CPSU", "political economy of socialism" left en masse, due to the fact that Jews were not appointed directors since the late 60s, threw us back into the scientific -technical revolution.
        So the chauvinist partisdeoluchs, who have made a career because of the "indigenous nationality" and by birth, necessarily from the village and not from "employees", have planted such a pig on all of us. that the enemies never dreamed of.
        About nat. question, so our beginning. The engineer of the Academy strove to ensure that among the listeners there were representatives of all nationalities of the USSR, well, at least, of all the Union republics.
        So not a single Estonian, Moldavian, Turkmen was accepted, and even among the officers there were counting them on the fingers.
        1. 0
          9 February 2020 09: 39
          stop fucking then cry ...
    3. +2
      8 February 2020 15: 38
      Quote: Eug
      I read in one source about the gift of Comrade Zaltsman comrade Kuznetsrvu is such a modest little owl of white gold in 1kg. Weight with diamond eyes ... however, I haven’t seen it anywhere else.

      I read a lot of this ...
      Almost always they said something demonic, parasite or hapuzhnichny about the Communists.
      That's just on business, it turns out the other way around, but as soon as new mansions and superyachts appear, mountains of crap are dumped on Soviet power.
      You would first find the gold of the CPSU — you have double benefit from this: reinforce ideology, and buy up half the world ...
      No duck, write about the golden owl, which by the way is not so much - just 150 gold rings, which, by the way, no one saw, and dance on the bones.
      I knew well one person, a disabled person of war of a non-working group who worked with director Salzman in the last years of the latter's work. About luxury, it was not said prosperity naturally was. And the awards of the Motherland, and the respect of so many people who previously worked with him.
  3. +4
    7 February 2020 07: 07
    He got off easily, and then many were really starving, my grandmother died in February 1942 from malnutrition. Orenburg
  4. +10
    7 February 2020 07: 14
    This is the myth of the Stopitzot of the mulons shot under I. Stalin. To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear. And nothing stuck in his throat - neither butter, nor a sandwich with caviar. Also, like the current appointees, I thought all about the people.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 08: 00
      Quote: Nonna
      This is the myth of the Stopitzot of the mulons shot under I. Stalin.

      this is not a myth, just
      Quote: Nonna
      To whom is war and to whom is mother dear?

      the top was gorging, and the common people "for three spikelets" went to the Kolyma
      1. +4
        7 February 2020 08: 32
        In 87, he was in the suburbs near the surrender of the then Minister of Defense. Well ... it was something. It is clear that the marshal, minister, public man. But they showed me the railway line laid to the cottage and told me that the materials were transported directly from Finland, as if we had a bad situation with stone and wood. Minister, but he didn’t have his own money, but state money. And the train. road...
        1. +6
          7 February 2020 14: 02
          Quote: kalibr
          But they showed me the railway line laid to the cottage and told

          Apparently you forgot to tell that some branches in the suburbs were specially built in case of evacuation of leading structures from Moscow, including using metro lines. And it began in Stalin's time - the bunker under the stadium in Izmailovo is still preserved. So most likely the branch was built earlier, and they decided to bring infrastructure to it, especially since the land was departmental, and not private.
          Quote: kalibr
          Well ... it was something.

          I saw these summer cottages in the picture - don’t tell my slippers. I travel along the Nosovikhinsky highway sometimes, there Bryntsalov’s dacha is clearly visible, against the background of which all these buildings of former military leaders look like shacks. You already demonstrate objectivity to begin with ...
          1. 0
            7 February 2020 18: 58
            Here is the evidence good eyewitness, not obs
          2. +1
            8 February 2020 00: 46
            would you even compare the cottage of Richard I with the cottage of Bryntsalov laughing
            1. +1
              8 February 2020 10: 19
              Quote: raif
              would you even compare the cottage of Richard I with the cottage of Bryntsalov

              Why - did they live at the same time?
              1. 0
                8 February 2020 19: 36
                about Richard - it's for a laugh. but you are also comparing incompatible cottages. new materials, concepts about luxury, etc. have appeared.
                1. +1
                  9 February 2020 11: 53
                  Quote: raif
                  but you are also comparing incompatible cottages. new materials, concepts about luxury, etc. have appeared.

                  Nothing of the kind - and in Soviet times they could build palaces, such as a residence in Foros. It was just that during the pre-Gorbachev period, they looked too hard on all party workers and officials who wanted to live in high style, which is why everyone had modest summer cottages. But this is not the point, but the fact that in Soviet times there were billions of dollars in treasury, but it never occurred to anyone to spend it on themselves. I remember the scandal with one member of the Politburo, whose son flew to Africa to hunt, and the pictures were posted in a foreign magazine. The member of the Politburo had to retire, and for what, in today's times, it is not even clear.
                  1. 0
                    9 February 2020 22: 32
                    not the same thing at all. even warm floors and suspended ceilings have appeared relatively recently. plastic windows, paving slabs and a bunch of other materials. in Soviet times, very few would have made the same pool, not to mention golf courses, tennis and helicopters. even green spaces are now much wider represented
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2020 12: 04
                      Quote: raif
                      not the same thing at all. even warm floors and suspended ceilings have appeared relatively recently.

                      We still laid under the king underfloor heating, though without electric heating.
                      And instead of stretch ceilings, they put a natural tree - they did not breathe chemistry, as we do now.
                      Quote: raif
                      in Soviet times, very few would have made the same pool, not to mention golf courses,

                      You just can’t imagine the situation in the USSR, and in the sixties I went to school past the ruins of houses to which the dead owners did not return after the war, and people didn’t have the means to recover. That’s how it was then in the country, and there wasn’t any excesses, people were happy at least in a simple separate apartment, so do not forget what the war turned for us, unlike the United States and several European countries.
                      1. -1
                        13 February 2020 00: 44
                        that you, like a bazaar woman, are changing the subject. at first they compared the dachas of the generals of the USSR with the dacha of Bryntsalov, and now they have slipped down to the post-war era - and where are the separate apartments ?.
                      2. +1
                        13 February 2020 10: 57
                        Quote: raif
                        that you, like a bazaar woman, are changing the subject.

                        You are an ordinary troll, so do not expect that you are taken seriously.
                        Quote: raif
                        first compared the dachas of the generals of the USSR with the dacha of Bryntsalov,

                        Because you, as a verbiage, decided that if you mention Richard, then they will immediately believe you and your comparison has weight. And I compared these dachas because the deceitful author tried to convince everyone how elegantly the top military leaders lived in the USSR.
                        Quote: raif
                        where does the separate apartment ?.

                        Despite the fact that you do not know the history of the country, you are also trying to "educate" someone here.
                      3. 0
                        13 February 2020 20: 13
                        unlike you, I do not enlighten anyone - where did you get it? moderate your inflamed cerebellum. and go to the bazaar - argue with the grandmothers there. once again for you, a tightly thinking giraffe, I explain - the level of comfort of Soviet dachas and Bryntsalov's dachas is incompatible. cry to administrators, if there is nothing to say on the case hi
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      2. -5
        7 February 2020 09: 18
        Oh come on, do not write nonsense, and they were shot a lot at the top too, for example, at Netanyahu how many criminal cases are hanging and there is nothing when a whole class of parasites of believers supposedly parasitizes the rest of the people if you would not know the Israeli
        1. +1
          7 February 2020 09: 24
          Quote: Uncle Izya
          on the rest of the people you would not know this Israeli

          sorry, why is your post addressed to me? Firstly, I wrote about the top of the 30s - 40s of the USSR, where does the Israeli prime minister? Secondly, I am not an Israeli citizen, because ethnic Russian and military units of the RF Armed Forces. You have to be careful Uncle Izya
          1. +2
            7 February 2020 10: 16
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Uncle Izya

            Uncle Izya from the newly converted Jews, forgive him.
    2. -3
      7 February 2020 11: 23
      So under Stalin, as now, the law was for everyone, but for the rest there was everything else. And salaries in envelopes, and cottages, and personal cars, and special rations. The party members did not starve in the besieged Leningrad and did not go in evacuation wreckage. Yes, and Comrade Stalin himself threw such banquets that foreign ambassadors in the starving Moscow of 1942 were fucking sturgeons and champagne (for comparison, the Queen in the UK at this time started a backyard garden where she dug with her daughters.
      1. -1
        7 February 2020 13: 36
        What are you, he was humble ...
      2. 0
        7 February 2020 18: 20
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        Yes, and Comrade Stalin himself threw such banquets that foreign ambassadors in the starving Moscow of 1942 were fucking sturgeons and champagne (for comparison, the Queen in the UK at this time started a backyard garden where she dug with her daughters.

        I wonder which of the ambassadors told you all this.
        1. +1
          7 February 2020 18: 54
          Hello, Alexander!
          Quote: Alexander Green
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          Yes, and Comrade Stalin himself threw such banquets that foreign ambassadors in the starving Moscow of 1942 were fucking sturgeons and champagne (for comparison, the Queen in the UK at this time started a backyard garden where she dug with her daughters.

          I wonder which of the ambassadors told you all this.
          I think I’m not mistaken, it was he or Olgovich told or another character --- Koshinnitsa, sort of. He was like that, like that write.
          laughing My business trips will end soon .....
        2. -2
          7 February 2020 20: 13
          Read the memoirs of these ambassadors
          1. +1
            7 February 2020 22: 25
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Read the memoirs of these ambassadors

            Who exactly?
        3. +1
          8 February 2020 13: 52
          Quote: Alexander Green
          I wonder which of the ambassadors told you all this.

          William Averell Harriman. Harriman WA America and Russia in a changing world: A half century of personal observation. - 1971.
          1. +1
            8 February 2020 18: 38
            Quote: Pushkar
            William Averell Harriman.

            And what did he write to him? What Roosevelt and Churchill had to be treated with American stew during the reception?
      3. +4
        8 February 2020 02: 41
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        The party members did not starve in the besieged Leningrad and did not go in evacuation wreckage.

        At least one witness ...
        The rations were reinforced ... But the rations.
        And what would be the defense of Leningrad if Zhdanov, along with everyone, received 125 grams of siege bread ...
        By the way, talk about cakes in Smolny has long been denied by confectioners.
        the fact. that for the first months in Leningrad there were still opportunities, various food factories worked. Pastry shops too. Products were sold to child care facilities. Appearance was more attractive than that. what was ... And here is what cakes were made in Leningrad ... about the same as bread with some additions. I will not compose. I forgot. But I remember the fact when they told me this, there was only one thought - Faith in Victory and in the future Life had to be supported by any means.
        But there were those who, upon hearing the word "cake", immediately interpreted it as AA. Zhdanov, by the way a diabetic, personally destroyed all the chic cakes.
  5. -2
    7 February 2020 08: 23
    Remember, recently, we discussed a film about the life of "managers" in besieged Leningrad - how did they celebrate the New Year?
    It seems everyone was screaming - that this can not be ....
    Everything was...
    1. +3
      7 February 2020 22: 43
      Everything was...

      Even what was not Yes
      Now they will write a lot of things. Remember the sensational investigation film about how in the besieged Leningrad Zhdanov confectioners made cakes and pastries with natural cream in Zhdanov? A whole bakery worked for him. And he was eating them. Yes, cognac and wine overseas drank. Such a flurry of indignation rose. Even the people wrote letters to Yeltsin with a request to remove the grave of this vampire from the Kremlin wall and change the streets of his name in the Russian Federation. They even connected the Prosecutor General’s Office to this case ... And what turned out to be Pshik !!! It turned out Andrei Alexandrovich could not eat sweets and drink wine purely physiologically. He was sick. He had a severe form of diabetes, and a severe form of coronary heart disease, with constant heart attacks. And Zhdanov’s face and fullness was not from the sybaritism attributed to him, but from illness.
      From the conclusion of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation:
      “All these cakes, pastries, exotic fruits, noble wines on snow-white tablecloths are fiction of pure water. And Zhdanov should not be attributed to unnecessary sins - he had plenty of his own ... ”

      And where is this investigating director now?
  6. +2
    7 February 2020 08: 34
    Very interesting stuff!
  7. +2
    7 February 2020 09: 45
    On June 28, 1942, the prosecutor reported to Molotov

    Not Molotov, comrade. Pearl - "Comrade Molotov respects his wife so much that before we have time to make a Politburo decision on this or that important political issue, it quickly becomes known to Comrade Pearl. It turns out that some invisible thread [p. 585] connects the Politburo with Molotov's wife, Zhemchuzhina, and her friends. And she is surrounded by friends who cannot be trusted. It is clear that such behavior of a Politburo member is unacceptable. " Recording of I.V. Stalin at the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU
    16 October 1952 year
    .... and died peacefully at the age of 82. God forbid, whenever you write in a textbook of history of the 6th grade about this period - the Jewish yoke.
    1. -1
      7 February 2020 10: 19
      Quote: pmkemcity
      about this period - the Jewish yoke.

      Now what is going on? The same yoke.
      1. -2
        7 February 2020 10: 34
        Quote: kiril1246
        Quote: pmkemcity
        about this period - the Jewish yoke.

        Now what is going on? The same yoke.

        300 years ... and three years. This is the way it is with us.
        1. +1
          7 February 2020 10: 59
          Quote: pmkemcity
          Quote: kiril1246
          Quote: pmkemcity
          about this period - the Jewish yoke.

          Now what is going on? The same yoke.

          300 years ... and three years. This is the way it is with us.

          And what actions can we take?
          1. -3
            7 February 2020 11: 03
            Quote: kiril1246
            And what actions can we take?

            First you need to give birth, and then raise Sergius of Radonezh. And then it will go as it should.
            1. +1
              7 February 2020 11: 05
              Quote: pmkemcity
              First you need to give birth, and then raise Sergius of Radonezh. And then it will go as it should.

              This is the same as that of the Zionists. They are also waiting for their mission.
              1. -4
                7 February 2020 13: 55
                Quote: kiril1246

                This is the same as that of the Zionists. They are also waiting for their mission.

                They have already waited and live according to his commandments. Just a pity for Christian babies.
      2. +2
        7 February 2020 15: 35
        So I also think ... here they put Korolev and Zaltsman on the same line, but I think it’s incorrect to not pay attention to their names. And that damn this individual claimed that he was a communist, and ate three throats
    2. -5
      7 February 2020 10: 35
      Quote: pmkemcity
      God forbid, whenever you write in a textbook of history of the 6th grade about this period - the Jewish yoke.

      How was it allowed?
      1. -2
        7 February 2020 11: 04
        Quote: kalibr
        God forbid, whenever you write in a textbook of history of the 6th grade about this period - the Jewish yoke.

        How was it allowed?

        Are you talking about moderators?
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  8. 0
    7 February 2020 10: 59
    became theft of food by executives
    norm (?) of the Soviet distribution system. The same was reported in memoirs by the long-term Gulag prisoner Dmitry Bystroletov - locally, i.e. in the camps, products allocated for sick children, etc., were plundered and devoured by Soviet employees and socially close criminals appointed to the corresponding posts of the camp administration.
    1. +3
      7 February 2020 11: 08
      Quote: Igoresha
      became theft of food by executives
      norm (?) of the Soviet distribution system. The same was reported in memoirs by the long-term Gulag prisoner Dmitry Bystroletov - locally, i.e. in the camps, products allocated for sick children, etc., were plundered and devoured by Soviet employees and socially close criminals appointed to the corresponding posts of the camp administration.

      Is it possible to eat so much?
      - meat and fish - 75133 kg, fats - 13824 kg, cereals - 3007 kg, sugar - 2098 kg, cheese - 1539 kg, etc.
      It was all for sale, exchanged for art objects, antiques, other nishtyaks ...
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 11: 10
        and 100% of this comrade was vigilantly watched by an officer of the NKVD
        1. +2
          7 February 2020 11: 11
          Quote: Igoresha
          and 100% of this comrade was vigilantly watched by an officer of the NKVD

          He honestly worked out his soldering.
  9. +1
    7 February 2020 11: 19
    Was Zaltsman's wife a relative of Trotsky, or is it just a coincidence of names? It is hard to believe that she survived the 30s.
    1. +1
      7 February 2020 11: 48
      Quote: Constanty
      Was Zaltsman's wife a relative of Trotsky, or is it just a coincidence of names? It is hard to believe that she survived the 30s.

      All of them are from one "tzaddik" - Rod Bronstein - one of the oldest and most respected among the Jewish families. It includes many rabbinic families who are well known throughout the Jewish world.

      So, for example, the founder of the Sohachevsky Hasidic court was r. Abraham Bronstein, who later received the family nickname Sohachever (d. In 1911). He headed the yeshiva in Sochaczew (Warsaw province), and combined the qualities of a Hasidic tzaddik with the scholarship of a Talmudist.

      According to family tradition, Abraham Bronstein was a descendant of the famous RAMO - Rabbi Moshe bin Israel Isserlein (Isserles). RAMO was born in 1520 in Krakow, died there in 1572. He was an outstanding codifier, Talmudist and halakhist, a student of the famous r. Shaloma Shahna. Mother r. Moshe Isserles, Julia Malka came from the Katsenelenbogen family. Since the Katsenelenbogen family is an offshoot of the Lurie clan, the Bronstein clan is related not only to the famous genus Isserles (Isserlein), but to the Katsenelenbogen and Lurie clan, which are descendants of the great RASHI.
      1. 0
        7 February 2020 11: 50
        Quote: pmkemcity
        descendants of the great Rashi.

        In short - our RASHI! I went to the "tzadik" as a child.
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  10. +1
    7 February 2020 13: 46
    That is why the Soviet power collapsed because it often, very often covered up the crimes of such party members who "had merits." And at what cost, by what methods were these "merits" created? Screams, obscenities, threats of execution, unfair accusations - a cast from the Red Army. So are the results.
  11. +3
    7 February 2020 14: 06
    If you are still free, then this is not your merit, but a flaw in the organs.
  12. +1
    7 February 2020 17: 32
    Quote: ccsr
    You already demonstrate objectivity to begin with ...

    From whom do you demand objectivity. ?? From RUSOPHOB of the "Palestinian Cossacks" ?? from a chelovek. whose article on a political topic still exudes ill-concealed anger and hatred for the achievements and merits of the Russian and Soviet peoples?
  13. 0
    7 February 2020 17: 53
    No, from a non-partisan technologist to grow up again to a plant director, having, in fact, a "black mark" - this must be very big-headed and have character. A test for Isaac Moiseich!
  14. +7
    7 February 2020 21: 33
    Of course, the article is specific and it is necessary to "dig" in an amicable way, but if we distract ourselves from emotions we get the following: if it’s good for business, then at a certain stage you will be forgiven a lot, but they will put in your daddy and the material will be approached, and when necessary - you will be scrapped for clean hands, and then, as soon as the wind changes, you will have a chance to play the "victim".
    Gentlemen, comrades, but this is the alpha and omega of the future collapse of the country. Children and spiritual heirs of these same, conditional Solzmanns eventually tore and plundered the USSR. It was they who brought people to a state in which oil was on coupons, and for a copy of Fiat it was necessary to stand in line for years, and any anything worthwhile could be bought either from under the floor, or by pull, or by check.
    It was necessary to judge such an "effective" manager. Judge and punish regardless of past merits.
    But they didn’t, they ran and overslept.
    Together with the country.
  15. 0
    9 February 2020 09: 50
    A good and necessary article. The last time on the Internet began to untwist the flywheel of propaganda, the special abilities of the "chosen" people. As you can see from the article, these abilities, in this case, are the robbing of their fellow workers and engineers, in wartime. For this in any team , the punishment would be swift and merciless. Zaltsman, without any quotation marks, is a traitor and bastards.
  16. ANB
    0
    9 February 2020 17: 54
    Dams. An example of one of the ways to build a career.
    Inanimate. And now this is quite the case.
  17. 0
    9 February 2020 18: 53
    15 at the restaurant! Then a loaf of 000 bread was worth it. If the company is several people, then not luxurious! About his rudeness! Then it was the norm! So did not swear, but talked! All! Except for Stalin, probably ...
  18. +1
    10 February 2020 08: 37
    Quote: Rich


    rich (dmitry)
    7 February 2020 22: 43

    Everything was ... Even what was not. Now a lot of things will be written. Remember the sensational investigation film about how, in blockaded Leningrad Zhdanov, confectioners made cakes and pastries with natural cream? A whole bakery worked for him. And he was eating them. Yes, cognac and wine overseas drank. Such a flurry of indignation rose. Even the people wrote letters to Yeltsin with a request to remove the grave of this vampire from the Kremlin wall and change the streets of his name in the Russian Federation. They even connected the Prosecutor General’s Office to this case ... And what turned out to be Pshik !!! It turned out Andrei Alexandrovich could not eat sweets and drink wine purely physiologically. He was sick. He had a severe form of diabetes, and a severe form of coronary heart disease, with constant heart attacks. And Zhdanov’s face and fullness was not from the sybaritism attributed to him, but from illness. From the conclusion of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation: “All these cakes, pastries, exotic fruits, noble wines on snow-white tablecloths are fiction of pure water. And Zhdanov should not be attributed to extra sins - he had plenty of his own ... ”And where is this investigating director now?


    No need to juggle: the question is not about Zhdanov (I write with a small letter as a collective type of personality of that time), the question of double standards, as is now customary to say.
  19. -2
    10 February 2020 16: 45
    The truth is somewhere in the middle:
    the official biography of I.M. Zaltsman is at odds with the real
    the attitude of the population towards him, which ranged from approval to harsh criticism.
    And even his opal almost did not change this alignment, since among the factory workers there were those
    who saw in her a well-deserved punishment, and those who considered her unfair. The proof of this was the factory party conference held in October 1949, at which
    in the election of a new party committee they voted (311 votes “against” and 217 “for”) the main
    plant lawyer A. M. Zverev. He wrote this to I.V. Stalin about the unrest at the plant, after which the trial with the director began25. And such a division into opponents
    and supporters of I.M. Zaltsman persisted for decades, but since over time
    if bad things are forgotten, then the latter gradually turned out to be in an overwhelming majority. After all, when
    in March 1988, a pathetic note about the former director was posted in the factory circulation and the editorial board received a negative response to it; three dozen veterans of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (hereinafter - ChTZ) immediately denied the “evil talk” 26. However,
    and after that there were people who, having read the material about how Zaltsman was filmed
    for “political reasons”, pointed to “omissions of a different kind” and advised journalists to go to the archives to find out the truth
  20. -2
    10 February 2020 16: 51
    Two free meals a day, promotion of leading workers with essential goods, products - all this was achieved by the director. Seeing that adolescents and young people are staggering from malnutrition at the machine tools, he introduced for them an additional ration of UDV, which the people dubbed "you will die a day later." In the mornings, he often got up at the checkpoint and watched what the workers were wearing. Those who were completely worn out were ordered to give out new clothes or shoes. They recall how once the director saw that those working in the cold were freezing in their boots, and the bosses put on army boots intended for others, built the entire command staff, ordered them to take off their shoes and give the boots to the workers.
    Ordinary people were not afraid to go to him with complaints. “Getting to the entrance is a torment,” women complained. - impassable dirt all around. ” And Zaltsman, himself in boots, seated in the "emka" factory managers, dropped them, shod in shoes, in the mess.


    http://www.litkonkurs.com/?dr=45&tid=325162
    In July, when the Cominternzavod began to send 20 tanks a day to the front, instead of the promised 25, the Supreme Commander summoned Salzman to Moscow with a list of people worthy of rewarding. Not finding among them the name of the director, Stalin ordered the preparation of a draft decree on awarding I.M.Zaltsman with the Order of Lenin.


    This episode is interesting:
    at the end of July 1943, arriving in Chelyabinsk accompanied by Salzman and Malyshev, Beria gathered an asset in the director’s office and delivered a speech. He said that the country really needed IS tanks for the offensive, but the plant director was unable to establish their serial production. Only an experienced production worker - Malyshev or Zaltsman - can head the enterprise and suggested that their candidatures be put to a vote. Everyone voted for Salzmann, who had no choice but to write to Stalin that he was asking to relieve himself of his duties as commissar in order to again head the Chelyabinsk Kirov Plant. The chair of the tank commissar again took Malyshev.
  21. ABM
    0
    19 February 2020 21: 21
    “At the beginning of 1942, Comrade Zaltsman moved from the Kirov plant to Nizhniy Tagil to the position of director of the plant number 183, and on his order, 9529 rubles worth of products were loaded into the car (at the expense of the Kirov plant). Among the products were: 50 kg of cereals, 25 kg of sugar, 100 kg of wheat flour, 20 liters of alcohol, meat products - 155 kg, 50 kg of butter, 40 kg of vermicelli, etc. "

    - you see, from practically blockaded Leningrad I took
    1. 0
      27 February 2020 15: 12
      And Stalin recruited scoundrels. And the attitude to the indigenous population of the then rulers of the Soviet regime was often like class enemies. The same Kaganovich with other carrion did not hesitate to pick up the seed fund for food. The fact that he gave double rations to workers and not everyone, so in Auschwitz, too, some prisoners who worked or beat others with a stick so that they worked would be fed a little better and shoes would be given out
  22. 0
    22 February 2020 09: 07
    https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/tankovyy-korol-i-opalnyy-general-rozhdenie-legendy-ob-isaake-zaltsmane
  23. 0
    25 February 2020 18: 57
    Zvltsman, son of a tailor ..... Rappoport ..... What else to add ....
  24. 0
    28 February 2020 09: 26
    the mafia is the mafia ... is immortal ....
  25. 0
    19 March 2020 00: 28
    Here for each repressed such an analysis. But this is unrealistic.
  26. -1
    14 December 2021 20: 24
    That's why he and Zaltsman! They usually say about such people: "The fish is still the same, it will jump off any frying pan" When people worked for 14 hours, they didn’t eat enough, didn’t get enough sleep, they ate in three gulps! Indeed, to whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear! It is bitter and insulting to read about all these salzmans
    1. 0
      1 May 2022 02: 28
      And why do you only swear at Zaltsman, then let's also at the pilots - I, for example - read the memoirs that the fighters that were sitting under Sestrik did not know at all how people in St. Petersburg die of hunger. And the thing is - that you can smack from the propeller towards the enemy (Although it sucks, of course) - getting 250 grams of bread a day. But flying and conducting air battles is no way, you will lose consciousness at a small overload. And they had meat, and butter, and chocolate - everything that was supposed to be according to the 5th norm. So why are you jumping on leaders - let's also on pilots - people in St. Petersburg died of hunger, and they, bastards, ate chocolate.
      But seriously, my dad was a good engineer. And what they talked about with their friends on the day off over a bottle - I remember: about work. And yet, yes - the manual takes away the hell out of strength, more than you spend standing at the lathe and manually twisting the transverse feed. Again, if you make a mistake on the machine - the part will go into marriage, bad, of course ... But if the designer makes a mistake, the price will be higher. And if the head of the level of Zaltsman, then the price of his mistake is even much greater. And in order to lead .... and you need to know the matter, and have primativity (http://ethology.ru/library/?id=12 here is the theory of process...).

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