Non-free word: Russian Justice Ministry offers media penalties


The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources that are not registered as mass media in Russia. Such amendments were made to the edition of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Administrative Offenses Code prepared by the Ministry of Justice.


The new edition of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation in article 33.9 “Violation of the production or distribution of media products” proposes to impose penalties for the manufacture or distribution of products of an unregistered media: for citizens (individuals) - from 1 to 1,5 thousand rubles, for officials persons - from 2 to 3 thousand rubles, for legal entities - from 20 to 30 thousand rubles.

If this article in the new edition of the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation is adopted, then the Russian media, and indeed the public, space as a whole, can expect very serious changes.

So, firstly, in modern society, you can “pull up” anything under an unregistered mass media. There are many sites, every day there are new and new electronic resources, pages and communities in social networks. There are informative messenger channels. Network communication and freedom of dissemination of information are some of the key criteria that distinguish modern society, and any attempt to counter them is the fight against windmills.

Secondly, the imposition of fines for the dissemination of information of unregistered media literally paralyzes the work of information resources, which at least claim independent coverage of data, allowing the reader to make a conclusion.

A significant segment of news content today is scooped on social networks, that is, from sources that do not have registration as mass media. In addition, there are translations, reposts of materials posted in foreign media. There are links to blogs of individuals who are also not registered media, but in fact perform similar functions.

By the way, the legislative proposal also applies to reposts of foreign media, therefore a citizen who reposted an article of a foreign publication on his social network page, in case of amendments, apparently also runs the risk of a fine.

Legislative novation will create impossible conditions for the full functioning of the registered media. After all, in fact, any media will be forced to publish exclusively official information or simply avoid citing third-party sources.

And the consequences will be twofold. On the one hand, the quality of the content will drop sharply: many media outlets risk becoming an analogue of the Soviet-era Pravda newspaper. There will be one - the only newspaper with the right course of "party and government", though in a hundred or more roles: there are a lot of de jure media, and de facto there is only one approach.

The second consequence is that the majority of the media will not comply with the new law. Just like street vendors do not comply with the rules of trade, or how the law on banning smoking in public places is not respected. It will be easier to pay a fine than to reduce your audience, reduce your popularity. But a law that does not work, by its very existence, discredits the entire legal system of the state, since it once again demonstrates the well-known axiom: "The strictness of laws is compensated by the non-bindingness of their implementation."

The fight against the dissemination of fake and anti-state information should be waged, but it cannot become the main course in the state’s information policy. And even more so, it should not restrain social and technological progress, prevent the emergence of new sources of information and knowledge, broaden the horizons of citizens and deepen their ideas about socio-political processes.

People who consider themselves patriots would like to say that such restrictions will affect all mass media, including those of a patriotic orientation, if they are not included in the "circle of favorites." Do not think that the restrictions are directed only against the pro-Western, “liberal” segment of Russian politics. It is much more important for the government to stop growing dissatisfaction with economic and social policies and with the situation of Russians and Russian speakers in the post-Soviet space (and in a number of Russian regions). Therefore, patriotic media will become an equally likely object of nit-picking and harassment.

Such bills from the “unfree word” series can lead to far more serious consequences for the Russian state and society than thousands and hundreds of thousands of reposts from the foreign press combined. In the XNUMXst century, such measures to control inappropriate content testify to a systemic crisis in the approach to freedom of speech, to the inability to regulate moods in society by other means than prohibitions and repressive measures. For our opponents in the West, such measures can only give another reason to accuse Russia of violating democratic rights and freedoms.
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  1. GKS 2111 3 February 2020 11: 01 New
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    "the introduction of fines for the dissemination of information of unregistered media literally paralyzes the work of information resources, which at least claim to independent data coverage, to provide the reader to draw a conclusion yourself."
    This is not a buzz ... IMHO.
    "And even more so, it should not restrain social and technological progress, prevent the emergence of new sources of information and knowledge, broaden the horizons of citizens and deepen their ideas about socio-political processes."
    1. Svarog 3 February 2020 11: 23 New
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      People who consider themselves patriots would like to say that such restrictions will affect all mass media, including those of a patriotic orientation, if they are not included in the "circle of favorites." Do not think that the restrictions are directed only against the pro-Western, “liberal” segment of Russian politics. It is much more important for the government to stop growing dissatisfaction with economic and social policies and with the situation of Russians and Russian speakers in the post-Soviet space (and indeed in a number of Russian regions). Therefore, patriotic media will become an equally likely object of nit-picking and harassment.

      This fact is sad .. instead of tackling corruption, the economy, science .. they decided to go by tightening the screws, but where it is not necessary to do this .. For the most part, people have already learned to understand. where is the truth, where is the lie .. After all, how many do not say halva .. it doesn’t become any easier ..
      1. Grandfather 3 February 2020 11: 37 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        This fact is sad ..

        svabodaslova.
      2. Ingvar 72 3 February 2020 12: 33 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        instead of tackling corruption, economics, science.

        They are engaged in corruption very diligently and professionally. wink
        1. Starover_Z 3 February 2020 23: 16 New
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          And officials of Min.Just do not want to amend the second sentence to Code of Administrative Offenses. the proposal that the deputies of all levels to pay the average regional salary of the place from which they were elected? Is the hypertrophied salary of these bureaucrats really correct and does not violate anything?
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Svarog
          instead of tackling corruption, economics, science.

          They are engaged in corruption very diligently and professionally. wink
      3. Arlen 3 February 2020 12: 49 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        for the most part, people have already learned to understand. where is the truth where is the lie

        Of course they learned. So much has been since the restructuring, how can one not learn how to separate the grain from the chaff.
  2. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.
    1. Ural resident 3 February 2020 11: 31 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.

      responsibility to the Ministry of Justice?
      1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 11: 36 New
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        For deliberate distribution of fakes, it is possible before the Ministry of Justice. Moreover, the responsibility should be criminal.
        1. Ural resident 3 February 2020 11: 42 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          For deliberate distribution of fakes, it is possible before the Ministry of Justice. Moreover, the responsibility should be criminal.

          And if, for example, I noticed the “inaccuracy” of the information provided by our official media by the same evening talk shows and decided to refute it by reposting articles from foreign media, where the version of the event is presented somewhat differently? Is that all? Straffff? ... for trying to challenge the official version? And if it is really wrong?
          In addition, all these laws on fines are only the beginning, then they will introduce the law “with regular violation - time limit”.
        2. Mordvin 3 3 February 2020 11: 49 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Moreover, the responsibility should be criminal.

          And for the comments too?
          1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 11: 54 New
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            Do you feel about the media? If so, then be sure. If you express a personal opinion - then nothing threatens you.
        3. novobranets 3 February 2020 11: 52 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          For conscious distribution of fakes

          I agree with you, only a small but important amendment- "For conscious dissemination knowingly false information. "
        4. helmi8 3 February 2020 14: 54 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          possible before the Ministry of Justice. Moreover, the responsibility should be criminal.

          First of all, the Justice Ministry needs to attend to the implementation of existing laws all categories of citizens. And then we have a certain part of society for which "the law is not written." Maybe they should be concerned about introducing an amendment to the Code, that for officials the punishment for a violation under any article is doubled ...
          But a law that does not work, by its very existence, discredits the entire legal system of the state, since it once again demonstrates the well-known axiom: "The strictness of laws is compensated by the non-bindingness of their implementation."

          And from this it follows that the absence of punishment is perceived as the fact of legitimizing permissiveness.
      2. Ham
        Ham 3 February 2020 12: 03 New
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        responsibility to the Ministry of Justice?

        Of course, you would like to not bear any responsibility whatsoever ...
        all storytellers yelled at once about “freedom of speech” - directly analogies with the adoption of the law on responsibility for defamation - then they also carried nonsense, something like - “criminalization of defamation violates freedom of speech”
        1. Ural resident 3 February 2020 12: 10 New
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          Quote: Ham
          responsibility to the Ministry of Justice?

          Of course, you would like to not bear any responsibility whatsoever ...
          all storytellers yelled at once about “freedom of speech” - directly analogies with the adoption of the law on responsibility for defamation - then they also carried nonsense, something like - “criminalization of defamation violates freedom of speech”

          It depends on how and what to answer for. When in a fire in a shopping center, small media begin to sow panic and jump on bones, the law should work here. In this case, an attempt is made to cut off any opposing opinion that does not correspond to the official one. We are very afraid that the people will not support the next changes. Such a simple solution, the problem of a “different opinion” cannot be solved, especially since people really have already learned to understand information.
          And do not forget that power can not always be good and sometimes a platform for criticism is needed.
          1. Ham
            Ham 3 February 2020 12: 18 New
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            people will support - do not worry! and in terms of "freedom of speech," we are still ahead of the rest ... our laws are not even half as severe as Western ones
            they are trying to destroy our country and do not hide it - they took the time to lap ...
            I generally think that our government is quite loyal to all of this, it’s high time to conduct domestic policy under the slogan “bad grass out of the field!”
            1. Ural resident 3 February 2020 12: 25 New
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              Quote: Ham
              people will support - do not worry! and in terms of "freedom of speech," we are still ahead of the rest ... our laws are not even half as severe as Western ones
              they are trying to destroy our country and do not hide it - they took the time to lap ...
              I generally think that our government is quite loyal to all of this, it’s high time to conduct domestic policy under the slogan “bad grass out of the field!”

              You do not understand the other, if the law is passed, it will continue to operate. Now the beautiful government everyone agrees with everything, wonderful, and then the new Yeltsin will come and will simply use the law for their own purposes. If we talk about the law, then only about the fakes, which entailed serious consequences, for example death of people, but ordinary laws are suitable for this. Personally, I want to be able to read different media and independently draw my own conclusions based on the difference of opinion.
              1. Ham
                Ham 3 February 2020 12: 29 New
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                you don’t understand it ... if "a new Yeltsin comes" all these laws will be canceled by the very first! as it was in the "blessed 90s" when they gave us a colonial "constitution" ...
                they forgot that something could be carried any nonsense and no "Yeltsin", etc. did not bathe about this?
                1. Ural resident 3 February 2020 12: 34 New
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                  Quote: Ham
                  you don’t understand it ... if "a new Yeltsin comes" all these laws will be canceled by the very first! as it was in the "blessed 90s" when they gave us a colonial "constitution" ...
                  they forgot that something could be carried any nonsense and no "Yeltsin", etc. did not bathe about this?

                  Of course I didn’t forget. It is clear what I meant by “Yeltsin”. Clearly not his love of the media. Now an initial attempt is being made to create a scheme in which criticism of the government will in principle be impossible. This will be done in small steps and amendments, this is still the first attempt. They made a throw-in, listened to the debate, slightly changed, accepted. After half a year, an amendment, about which no one even finds out, etc.
          2. DenZ 3 February 2020 12: 25 New
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            Quote: A resident of the Urals
            And do not forget that power can not always be good and sometimes a platform for criticism is needed.

            A platform for criticism is really needed. Create your own independent media, register it in accordance with the new (proposed) law and criticize our government as much as you like within the framework of the already adopted law. I give away the idea just like that. No thanks are needed.
        2. Mordvin 3 3 February 2020 12: 33 New
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          Quote: Ham
          Of course, you would like to not bear any responsibility whatsoever ...

          Do you understand that they offer to fine only for the fact that the hypothetical publication Zadurykinskaya Pravda will tell completely truthful information from the Honduras Times that was not registered in the Russian Federation that, for example, the Papuan Wamba killed the curse of the Tumbu parrot?
          1. Harry.km 4 February 2020 14: 16 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Do you understand that they offer to fine only for the fact that the hypothetical publication Zadurykinskaya Pravda will tell completely truthful information from the Honduras Times that was not registered in the Russian Federation that, for example, the Papuan Wamba killed the curse of the Tumbu parrot?

            It is enough to create a heading - jokes of friends; leafing through colorful pages; and other similar names, you can try to slip out from under the eyes of a big brother)))
    2. Grandfather 3 February 2020 11: 38 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.

      the government’s current is different.
      1. Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 02 New
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        That's what the media would not write, and such a law is needed.
        1. Revival 10 February 2020 01: 12 New
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          Will Rogozin be fined for distributing fake about flying to the moon, helium mining, module federation?
          The deadlines are gone, exaggerated fake was obtained !?
    3. Ross xnumx 3 February 2020 11: 38 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what was said, no way to chat whatever you like.

      fellow Correct solution! Correct solution!
      How will we attract for what has been said?
      About the salaries of doctors (from 3:01)

      About retirement age:

      Or will we make, as always, an exception to the general rules? wassat
      1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 11: 51 New
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        And what did Vova say wrong? Now, even in my small homeland, the central district hospitals are filled with modern medical equipment. And salaries, as it were, increased, not so few doctors get there. And do not compare well-fed zeros with the current ones. A slightly different situation.
        1. Ross xnumx 3 February 2020 12: 09 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          A slightly different situation.

          Really! The situation is different. It’s one thing, “there are not so few doctors who get there,” another thing is when the wife received an “advance” (to the card) for January (31.01.2020/3/300 _ ADVANCE !!!) XNUMX Russian rubles ... fellow
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          And do not compare well-fed zeros with the current ones. A slightly different situation.

          It's right! How many dollar billionaires were there then? Once - and miscalculated! But about millionaires, there was no discussion at all ... belay Here just the other day (though it’s already in disgrace) the person so convincingly painted the delights of the pension reform and a bonus of 1000 rubles (the national average), but in reality it turned out like this:

          Thank you, millionaire Golikova clarified everything, but somehow not with her hands ...
          On May 18, 2018, the President of the Russian Federation approved the composition of the new government, headed by Dmitry Medvedev, in which Tatyana Golikova received the position of Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation[43]. To the scope Her responsibility included social policy.
          In preparation for the pension reform in Russia, September 6, 2018 appointed special representative of the President of Russia in parliament when considering bills on the appointment and payment of pensions[44]
      2. Svarog 3 February 2020 11: 54 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        Or will we make, as always, an exception to the general rules?

        Eco You swung .. here the one-goal game is planned, and you honestly want to play football ..
        1. Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 03 New
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          Until now, there has been a one-goal game on the part of the "opposition" - and that probably was good, right.
          And now you see, the state decided to fight.
          Yes, what right it has!
          Nizabumnimproim!
          1. Svarog 3 February 2020 12: 05 New
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            And now you see, the state decided to fight.

            The state has long been mired in the struggle with its people .. and I will please you .. the state is winning! For two consecutive years, the population has been declining ..
            1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 12: 13 New
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              In which of the developed countries is the population increasing? Due to the indigenous population. Does the state win too?
              1. Lannan Shi 3 February 2020 15: 02 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                In which of the developed countries is the population increasing?

                USA for example. Do you know why? They have around 70% of the budget in the region - social. And we have 32. It was. Now it’s getting smaller. And our government sees the figure 0 as an ideal. That's why their population is growing, and their population is dying.
                1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 15: 28 New
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                  In the US, the main gain is given by little blacks and mexes. Plus immigration should not be written off.
                  1. Lannan Shi 3 February 2020 15: 52 New
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    In the US, the main gain is given by little blacks and mexes.

                    You are simply a victim of propaganda.
                    1. Negroes in the USA 12% They are stupidly too few to influence something.
                    2. The birth rate of blacks is not very different from that of indigenous whites. That's the discovery, right?
                    3. The entire Hispanic population of the United States is also 12%. Of these, no more than a third of mexes. The rest is Latin and not Central America. And more than half - already the second or third generation, as indigenous. Meksa, for the most part, like the Uzbeks in our country, run into earnings. Making money in the United States and spending in Mexico is much more comfortable.
                    4. And even comparing the most disadvantaged group of the United States - Anglo-Saxons whose fertility rate at the moment is 1.85, the Russian Federation loses with a bang. 1.57 in 2018, and somewhere around 1.53-1.55 will be for 2019. However, I do not exclude that it is too optimistic. In the spring of last year, in a dispute, whether it was with you, she said that she would die out in 2019 at 250-280, turned out to be more than 300. But I’ll be optimistic. And if you take the most disadvantaged group of the population of the Russian Federation .... Actually Russian .... Then we have in the region of 1.2 against 1.85 of the Anglo-Saxons. But yes. Our government is the most caring government in the world. Glory to Putin. Yeah.
                    Oh yes. And paragraph 5. Include migratory flows in the discussion of natural growth / decline ... This is, as it were, not a sign of the mind ..
                    1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 15: 56 New
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                      Perhaps in the USA I’m not right. But neighboring Finland, and prosperous Germany, is also dying out. Although their social sphere is an order of magnitude higher than ours.
                      1. Lannan Shi 3 February 2020 16: 15 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        Perhaps in the USA I’m not right. But neighboring Finland, and prosperous Germany

                        But they, by the way, are dying. Well, the former Warsaw countries. But England and the rest of the Netherlands are growing quite well. In terms of fertility, we have already moved below the entire old UES. Well, except for Italy. You at least open a wiki, if you seriously dig Old lazy. And this year we will roll back to the level of South Korea and ... Ukraine. Yeah. In \ on which everything is so bad, but with us everything is just wonderful.
                      2. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 16: 20 New
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                        By growth, we are in the middle of the old EU by growth. Yielding to the French, but ahead of the Germans with the Austrians.
                    2. Revival 10 February 2020 01: 19 New
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                      Arrived.
                      So what's up with a developed country?
                      Or the United States is no longer an example, otherwise it has become so uncomfortable with such an example ..
                      And the United States is apparently not a developed country ...
                      So we arrived, and so hotly we rushed with a slogan: "in which developed country?"
                      But in this one, and ..
                      Well, we’ll eat in Finland, but if we don’t get it, we will move to the great Hungary, so lucky
  3. beer-youk 3 February 2020 11: 49 New
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    Exact characteristic:

    “... Not all newspapers responded to the order of the government to give the first pages to the presidential appeal. Many, deciding to defend the independence of the press or, rather, the stupid stubbornness of their owners, made changes to the copies provided to them - added humor or scared fear, each to their own liking - thus preserving the freedom consecrated for centuries to allow gross distortions called freedom of the press. "

    Eric Frank Russell "The Evil Barrier"
    November 1939, XNUMX
  4. Grandfather 3 February 2020 12: 04 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.
    Reply

    Well, yes ... one of them in the trash, one thing in the Duma ... another one will be swept away, and the other type is untouchable. and yes ... freedom.
  5. Leshy1975 3 February 2020 12: 09 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.

    Well, let's try how you insist. Here is the source of Lenta.ru:
    Most Russians supported constitutional amendments proposed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. This is reported by RBC owned by Grigory Berezkin with reference to a VTsIOM poll ...
    The survey was conducted on January 24, 2020 among Russians over 18 years old by telephone interview, 1,6 thousand respondents participated in it.

    Here's what we will do in this case? Is it worth it to count
    1,6 thousand respondents
    really the majority of Russians? Or if it is FOR power, then yes, of course, and such a selection and the support figures given in the article certainly deserve trust? And other figures and data, are they possible in principle? Or less than 77% (in the last presidential election) cannot be either?
    You really don’t understand where we (the whole country) have come to? I will show you what numbers and stats are. data and non-essential information in today's state (source finanz.ru):
    After a change of government, macroeconomic statistics will change in Russia. Rosstat begins a large-scale revision of industrial production data, which will affect the period 2018-19, as well as all new data starting in January 2020 ...
    Now, according to Rosstat, the base year will be 2018. This will allow retroactively raising figures for industrial production, says Kirill Tremasov, director of the Loko-Invest analytical department ...
    “Apparently, this will increase the estimates of GDP growth in the specified period,” adds Tremasov ...
    Another revision of the Rosstat methodology will be the third in the last year. At the beginning of 2019, the department changed the calculation of the real disposable income of the population. As a result, the scale of the decline in living standards was reduced by one fifth: initially, the decline for 2013-18 was estimated at 10,2%, and after clarification, the figure was “retouched” to 8,3%.

    Well, since, are we going to attract someone for chatting, writing and giving out revised (decorated) numbers and information repeatedly? Or how can it not be, if such chatter and repainting in favor of power?
  6. Lannan Shi 3 February 2020 14: 57 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.

    Responsibility is for what has been said. It is proposed to impose a fine already for the attempt itself to say. And what did you say there ... Fake, or the absolute truth, certified as much by the heavenly office, is of no interest to anyone.
    We have punishments for libel, the dissemination of knowingly false information, etc. For responsibility for what has been said, this is more than enough. And this innovation is a banal gag that will silence all those who are not ready to lick the ass with enthusiasm.
  • Clueless 3 February 2020 11: 11 New
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    And I like to read such materials :) Because as soon as you write laudatory and selling materials, all these sites are in the queue, and as soon as they realize that they can be pulled for it, they’ll write materials immediately in a panic.
    Of course there will be strict censorship, so thanks to you it will be, because if most of the resources were not corrupt, then there were no such laws. You yourself have prepared public opinion - such as the rule of law, the opposition is not right, the liberals in the country have ruined everything (yeah, for only 20 years they haven’t been in power for a long time). So chew now
    1. Krasnoyarsk 3 February 2020 11: 32 New
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      = The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources that are not registered as mass media in Russia. Such amendments were made to the edition of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Administrative Offenses Code prepared by the Ministry of Justice. =
      If the information is true, then what is the difference, registered or not, the source published it? What is the main thing in the information? -Her accuracy and veracity. Everything else is from the evil one.
      And for this, it’s enough to pass the Law on Lies. Moreover, a very strict law. Up to the "sky in the box."
      But I am sure that the media themselves will be against the adoption of such a law. Otherwise, they will be left without work.
      And the authorities will not be delighted either.
      1. Whatislove 3 February 2020 11: 46 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        = The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources that are not registered as mass media in Russia. Such amendments were made to the edition of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Administrative Offenses Code prepared by the Ministry of Justice. =
        If the information is true, then what is the difference, registered or not, the source published it? What is the main thing in the information? -Her accuracy and veracity. Everything else is from the evil one.
        And for this, it’s enough to pass the Law on Lies. Moreover, a very strict law. Up to the "sky in the box."
        But I am sure that the media themselves will be against the adoption of such a law. Otherwise, they will be left without work.
        And the authorities will not be delighted either.

        What does it have to do with truthfulness / not truthfulness? Does the Stat clearly indicate that they will be fined for any information or you, as a “Hurray Patriot”, will justify the actions of the authorities?
        1. Krasnoyarsk 3 February 2020 13: 03 New
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          [quote = Whatislove]
          What does it have to do with truthfulness / not truthfulness? Does the Stat clearly indicate that they will be fined for any information or you, as a “Hurray Patriot”, will justify the actions of the authorities?
          You probably can't read. Read it again - If the information is true, then what is the difference, registered or not, the source published it? What is the main thing in the information? -Her accuracy and veracity. Everything else is from the evil one. [/ Quote]
      2. Leshy1975 3 February 2020 12: 15 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        = The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources that are not registered as mass media in Russia. Such amendments were made to the edition of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Administrative Offenses Code prepared by the Ministry of Justice. =
        If the information is true, then what is the difference, registered or not, the source published it? What is the main thing in the information? -Her accuracy and veracity. Everything else is from the evil one.
        And for this, it’s enough to pass the Law on Lies. Moreover, a very strict law. Up to the "sky in the box."
        But I am sure that the media themselves will be against the adoption of such a law. Otherwise, they will be left without work.
        And the authorities will not be delighted either.

        Yeah, and be sure to create a ministry of truth. Well, that there would be no disagreement about what exactly is considered true and what is false. They said on TV, as it was already, that people are happy that they are not being expelled now and that’s all, go argue with the ministry of “truth”. I bet I didn’t agree? Well, bring responsibility for such behavior into the Criminal Code.

        PS Here and we will live happily ever after. And you can’t argue with that. request
        1. Krasnoyarsk 3 February 2020 13: 00 New
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          Quote: Leshy1975

          Well, that there would be no disagreement about what exactly is considered true and what is false.

          Oooo, how everything is running!
        2. The popuas 3 February 2020 13: 07 New
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          The truth party has appeared! laughing Why not create a ministry of truth tongue ETOGES how many ,, high-tech ,, jobs recourse
    2. Gardamir 3 February 2020 11: 32 New
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      If I understand you correctly, in your opinion the liberal is not a party affiliation, not a conviction, but those who you do not like.
      Mr. President, five times a day he can say that he is a liberal, but you and others like you will shout that he is not a liberal.
      1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 12: 07 New
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        Zhirinovsky, the head of the Liberal Democratic Party, has nothing to do with liberals in the full sense of the word. Like GDP, it is a terry conservative, but by no means a liberal.
        1. Gardamir 3 February 2020 12: 26 New
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          Well, Zhirinovsky, proclaiming himself a liberal democrat, probably thought he was a revolutionary, but nothing lasts forever.
          How do you understand the word conservative?
          1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 12: 28 New
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            I completely agree with the Wikipedia statement:
            "Conservatives in domestic politics emphasize the value of the existing state and public order and reject radical reforms, which they regard as extremism. In foreign policy, conservatives rely on strengthening security and allow the use of military force ..."
            1. Gardamir 3 February 2020 12: 35 New
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              Well, I don’t know, it turns out that I am also a conservative, but the president is a revolutionary for me.
              My motto: order-justice-tradition. Agree to the conservative motto.
              1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 12: 42 New
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                Conservative conservative strife. There are left, there are right, there are centrists. GDP is never revolutionary. The revolutionary was Yeltsin.
                1. Gardamir 3 February 2020 13: 48 New
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                  Then he should talk about stability, and not about reform.
                  1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 15: 46 New
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                    The great conservative Alexander the Third did not shy away from reforms either. And quite successful. But the liberals were sitting like mice under a broom.
                    1. Gardamir 3 February 2020 16: 31 New
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                      So now in Russia, reform has been non-stop since 1985. And they are created by the very liberals.
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                        Stalin did not carry out reforms? It’s impossible to call anyone a liberal.
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                        Reforms are good when they are on the case, but just reforms for the sake of reform, why.
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              Quote: Gardamir
              My motto: order-justice-tradition. Agree to the conservative motto

              For some reason, it recalled the saying about the inscription on the fence and what is actually behind it laughing
    3. Grandfather 3 February 2020 12: 08 New
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      If I understand you correctly, in your opinion the liberal is not a party affiliation, not a conviction, but those who you do not like.

      why did you understand it so shamefully? (yes, ashipki knowingly)
  • Ross xnumx 3 February 2020 11: 43 New
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    Of course there will be strict censorship, so thanks to you it will be, because if most of the resources were not corrupt, then there were no such laws.

    good It's always like that. As soon as media reports begin to cast a shadow over power structures, the “right laws” on the media are introduced ...
  • carstorm 11 3 February 2020 11: 25 New
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    the whole problem is that you have to answer for your words and actions. check information. I never believe that honest media or bloggers will suffer from such fines .. there are too many balabol in social networks who say and do what they want without consequences. although of course it is worth a little soften the wording.
    1. Grandfather 3 February 2020 11: 43 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      the whole problem is that you have to answer for your words and actions.

      like that, I wanted to the “neighbor”, better, and not to the government ... he is stupid, but healthy, and respects, and in the wound in the know ... who is not touching the power?
    2. Ross xnumx 3 February 2020 11: 46 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      the whole problem is that you have to answer for your words and actions.

      The whole problem is that if one of the “offended” sues, and the court (not pocket, but somewhere independent) recognizes the correctness of the journalist (blogger, etc.), then it’s hardly words about liberalism or foreign agents will cost ...
      1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 12: 05 New
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        It should be so. There is only one “but”: we have practically no independent media, we have them engaged by one side or another. And, as you know, whoever treats a girl dances her.
    3. Whatislove 3 February 2020 11: 48 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      the whole problem is that you have to answer for your words and actions. check information. I never believe that honest media or bloggers will suffer from such fines .. there are too many balabol in social networks who say and do what they want without consequences. although of course it is worth a little soften the wording.

      Anyone who does not please the authorities will suffer. Have you decided that our authorities are now doing everything in fairness?
      1. carstorm 11 3 February 2020 11: 52 New
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        I do not violate laws and have no difficulties with my state. why don't others live the same way? philistine opinion, of course, but I have nothing more to compare.
        1. Whatislove 3 February 2020 11: 55 New
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          Well, yes, because there are no laws that are directed against one’s own country and people. I personally don’t support outright gagging.
  • Gardamir 3 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    Why fine, immediately "wet."
    But seriously, today I have some day deja vu. More and more resembles the worst version of the Soviet Union.
    First, in the early 90s, we were granted all conceivable and inconceivable freedoms, even lawlessness. If only the people did not look back at the past, and when we were finally led into the mouth of capitalism, then suddenly everything that the perestroika scolded the Union was in demand.
    1. New Year day 3 February 2020 11: 31 New
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      More and more resembles the worst version of the Soviet Union.

      what about the ending?
      1. Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 11 New
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        No, do not wait.
    2. carstorm 11 3 February 2020 11: 46 New
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      maybe they already ate all this freedom? I go to the facebook and there is one game. Unsubscribe from some others come and bear such ... all sorts of new newspapers on which there is nowhere to put the stigma ... jellyfish ...
      1. AU Ivanov. 3 February 2020 13: 08 New
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        So freedom is a big responsibility. In the case of the media, this is also internal self-censorship. But nobody likes to be responsible for their actions, from the bottom to the top. Therefore, there will be no freedom.
  • Nyrobsky 3 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    No, for the dissemination of knowingly false information, or more simply, "to be responsible for the bazaar" is necessary and this is indisputable. Another question is how to correctly separate the "grain from the chaff," or "flies from cutlets," when it sometimes happens that the well-respected and reputable media and television channels admit jambs and give out information that does not correspond to reality (near or as if) with reference - Information obtained from a "source trustworthy" or from "sources close to ...". Who are these sources?
    1. Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 11 New
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      Yes, just to distinguish. He called someone a thief in the media, without any evidence, only from "unverified sources" - that flies flew.
      Well, this is in my opinion obvious.
  • Igar 3 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    What about Article 13.21 of the current Administrative Code?

  • Lamata 3 February 2020 11: 59 New
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    A kind of publicity is the opposite. MSG instead. distinct economy reforms o.tkryuyl glasnost and such help was opened. (who remembers) right now, vice versa, drive the info under the baseboard, but again there is no intelligible economy policy. The bald ones act like a pattern))),
  • Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 05 New
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    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    If the information is true, then what is the difference, registered or not, the source published it? What is the main thing in the information? -Her accuracy and veracity. Everything else is from the evil one.

    The main thing in the information is who considers it to be true.
    For example, it’s known on the fence that, and behind it are firewood.
    But many people believe.
  • Knell wardenheart 3 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    A side effect of a hypertrophied power unit is the desire to solve all problems with its help .. bans, fines, landings ..
    Interestingly, soon there will be people outside the office hours to catch theaters and shops? :)
    Z. It would be nice to compile an online list of specific individuals offering at the legislative level such a heresy in the Russian Federation. So that these people become shaking hands in any environment where they don’t like all these Pinochet creeps ..
  • Mestny 3 February 2020 12: 09 New
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    And how interesting it turns out.
    IN also the media. So it turns out will be responsible for the massive jumps of the opposition on its website.
    It will be necessary for our Ukrainian, Israeli and other fighters for our happiness and truth to go to their countries, to their own native resources. There then go complete freedom of speech, you can water your country as you like.
  • rocket757 3 February 2020 12: 19 New
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    The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources that are not registered in Russia as mass media.

    It is possible to fine, to rob the information field, and the result may turn out even worse.
    Responsibility for deceit and slander, of course, is needed, only this must be done clearly, purposefully and in accordance with the law.
  • Oleg Skvortsov 3 February 2020 12: 25 New
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    First, their mouths shut up, then they will shoot at the people. Imperious crooks feel that the soil under them is staggering.
    1. Podvodnik 3 February 2020 12: 43 New
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      If you "knock on the door" with questions for several hundred thousand citizens brought to the handle, then no one will shoot. Bear disease will not. Can you imagine their faces? They look out the window in front of the "sea on the castle" and there is a square full of people. And if the citizens are silent, then they agree.
  • Podvodnik 3 February 2020 12: 34 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.
    Reply

    Interestingly, but for the "macaroni" or "the state owes you nothing", etc. did anyone answer? And "there is no money, but you stay there, success to you ..."? This is a strange responsibility, one-sided.
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      Quote: Podvodnik
      and for "macaroni" or "the state owes you nothing", etc. did anyone answer? And "there is no money, but you stay there, success to you ..."?

      Not yet. But in the place of the authors of these undoubtedly talented Internet memes, I would ... bother, so to speak wink
  • Yehudi Menuhin 3 February 2020 12: 35 New
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    Only deliberate dissemination of knowingly false information must be pursued. It is the conscious and the deliberately false. That is the same approach as for libel. Otherwise, enforcement will be deliberately one-sided. What is not pleasing to the authorities will be prosecuted
  • sergo1914 3 February 2020 12: 51 New
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    I get it. In the USSR, I lived under the yoke of severe censorship and did not have the right to have an opinion. And now I live in the freest country in the world, and the President and the Prime Minister personally care about my well-being. In addition, I can have my own opinion and express it publicly. The Rosguard, specially created to ensure my freedoms, protects me from all kinds of usurpers and does not allow my employers to restrict my right to work. I am in a social paradise. I feel good. I am sure of tomorrow.
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      I am in a social paradise. I feel good. I'm sure tomorrow

      Take me there too .. to Paradise social laughing good
  • Zaurbek 3 February 2020 12: 55 New
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    When the capital is already accumulated, I do not want to hear unpleasant things about myself.
  • Keyser soze 3 February 2020 14: 36 New
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    Yes, so in ten years it’s necessary to close the borders again, otherwise all living things will be dumped over the hill ...
    1. God save the king 3 February 2020 20: 56 New
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      Just raise the price of a passport every 10 times, and do not close anything.
  • Shahno 3 February 2020 15: 05 New
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    Quote: Lannan Shi
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    In which of the developed countries is the population increasing?

    USA for example. Do you know why? They have around 70% of the budget in the region - social. And we have 32. It was. Now it’s getting smaller. And our government sees the figure 0 as an ideal. That's why their population is growing, and their population is dying.

    How would we increase too. ..
    1. God save the king 3 February 2020 20: 54 New
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      Unfortunately, it does not increase.
      Moreover, traditionally the Russian regions of the central and western parts of the country are literally dying out altogether ..
  • Thompson 3 February 2020 16: 11 New
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    The Ministry of Justice of Russia offers penalties for the media

    What is the title of the article ??
    But you couldn’t immediately call it that- "The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation proposes to fine for disseminating information from sources not registered in Russia as mass media"
    Or do you really need to overshadow the meaning? And for what?
  • Protos 3 February 2020 16: 15 New
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    Why such small fines from legal entities !?
    In the United States, fines for a similar article start at $ 250 and go to criminal liability for relapses!
    By the way, Ukrainians immediately give a criminal offense for positive information about Russia and the USSR!
    And nothing, I can't hear the trolls screaming laughing
  • cloud catcher 3 February 2020 17: 15 New
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    I think that these expressions apply to freedom of speech.
    Orwell: “Freedom is the right to tell people things that they don’t want to hear.”
    N / Wisdom: "Keep the word when it can harm."
    Wilde: "Truth is rarely pure and never simple."

    The truth is somewhere near...
    At the same time, information is increasingly needed to be double-checked.
  • fa2998 3 February 2020 17: 57 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Freedom of speech implies responsibility for what has been said, not the ability to chat as you please.

    You know, sometimes the first persons of the state carry such nonsense that it has nothing to do with reality. Moreover, on federal channels (naturally registered). The task of such decisions is to leave only officialdom. hi
  • eklmn 4 February 2020 04: 15 New
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    “... many media outlets risk becoming an analogue of the Soviet-era Pravda newspaper.”
    And to be honest, I miss the Pravda newspaper - after all, you cannot read toilet paper, but you can Pravda!
  • Nitarius 4 February 2020 07: 49 New
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    Good law ... And then we have news from the air made .. without checking the facts and so on! so .. an extra fine doesn’t hinder the distribution of fakes! in Russian-FALSE!
  • Misha Bushmanov 6 February 2020 21: 42 New
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    Why did everyone get alarmed? This is for foreign media.