Turkish troops suffer losses in Syrian Idlib and strike at SAA positions

From Syria, there are reports of losses among representatives of the Turkish military contingent. Recall that on the eve of Turkey began the transfer of an additional number of its troops and military equipment to the Syrian province of Idlib.

The head of the press service of the Turkish president, Ibrahim Kalin, said on his Twitter microblog that there was a shelling of the Turkish military column. According to Kalyn, four Turkish soldiers died in Syrian Idlib.

Ibrahim Kalyn:

An immediate response was given to this. The perpetrators will be held accountable for this (attack).

According to recent reports, as a result of the shelling in Idlib, there are not only the dead, but also wounded Turkish soldiers and officers. Ankara reports nine soldiers injured in varying degrees of severity.

The report said that the shelling took place in the area of ​​the city of Serakib.

The Turkish President’s press service says the assad’s forces fired. It is stated that in response, Turkish troops struck at the positions of the SAA. In particular, we are talking about the destruction of the Syrian battery.

It should be noted that the Syrian government army (SAA) in recent days has been actively attacking the positions of militants in Idlib. Moreover, the latter use Turkish observation posts as a cover. It is likely that it was this fact that could lead to the fact that the Turkish military died as a result of the shelling.

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[Zaurbek]

Interestingly, is the sky in Idlib closed to the Turkish Air Force?

[IL-18]

Rospotrebnadzor time to close the border with Turkey for wormy tomatoes.

[Karaul73]

Do you think Russia is just that and can answer Turkey for the destruction of an ally’s battery? If so, then soon there will be no allies at all. Even Belarus has been kicking lately. Where is the world heading?

[Blackmokona]

Where Russian diplomacy is heading, it is responsible for the presence of allies

[potterz]

Do you see an ally in Turkey? For me it’s better to be without them at all than those who can stab a knife in the back at any moment!

[Shurik70]

What does Turkey have to do with it?
It's about our allies.
And the ally here is Syria.
The blow was struck in Syria.
However, not the first time. Before Turkey, Israel struck. And the USA. And ISIS.
Helped only against ISIS. They only covered air defense from the rest

[Lelek]

Quote: Shurik70

The blow was struck in Syria.

That's it. A blow to the Syrian government forces by Turkey, which invaded the territory of a sovereign state without invitation. What will Syria’s ally, Russia, do in this situation?

[Jose]

When the Kurdish children were killed, you didn’t say that

[Nosgoth]

Kurds chose their side - and this is not Russia. So goodbye, spit on your loss.

[Zoro]

Quote: Lelek

That's it. A blow to the Syrian government forces by Turkey, which invaded the territory of a sovereign state without invitation. What will Syria’s ally, Russia, do in this situation?

I also thought about it right away .. Turkey begins to directly become impudent ....
Well, Russia and Turkey clearly have agreements on this account .. Erdogan will squeal and calm down .. Look, let rushing to Libya, his mission in Syria is completed ..

[Leeds]

Quote: Shurik70

What does Turkey have to do with it?
It's about our allies.
And the ally here is Syria.
The blow was struck in Syria.
However, not the first time. Before Turkey, Israel struck. And the USA. And ISIS.
Helped only against ISIS. They only covered air defense from the rest

Turkey’s desire to stop being the laughing stock in Syria is understandable.

[major147]

Quote: Sentry73

answer Turkey for destroying an ally’s battery?

MOSCOW, February 3, 2020, 11:43 - REGNUM The Turkish Air Force planes did not violate the state border of Syria and did not strike at positions of the government forces of the SAR, the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of the warring parties said.

[Shurik70]

"They did not violate borders" only about the Air Force (although it is doubtful here - the wounded are evacuated by helicopters, and the helicopters are covered by attack aircraft)
And enough for a strike and tanks

[major147]

Quote: Shurik70

"They did not violate borders" only about the Air Force (although it is doubtful here - the wounded are evacuated by helicopters, and the helicopters are covered by attack aircraft)
And enough for a strike and tanks

I share the available information. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.

[major147]

Quote: major147

I share the available information.

Arab media reported that the Russian Su-35S intercepted Turkish fighters in the sky over the SAR. Note that there are no comments from the Russian and Turkish sides yet.
From the publication of the Arab media, it became known about the incident when Russian Su-35S intercepted Turkish fighters in the skies over Syria. The publication draws attention to the publication "VPK". However, he emphasizes that there are no official comments in connection with this incident.
Meanwhile, it is reported that our "dryers" were forced to rise from one of the air bases on the territory of the SAR, as Turkish F-16s violated the Syrian border.

[master 52]

as Erdogan said no

[Zaurbek]

Syrians can use aviation ..... but ours can not give or delay the use of its Turks.

[RUS96]

Quote: Zaurbek

Is the sky in Idlib closed to the Turkish Air Force?

[Zaurbek]

Probably by agreement.

[Lord of the Sith]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not record attacks by Turkish air force fighters on the positions of the Syrian government forces in Idlib. Turkish Air Force planes did not violate the Syrian borders, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

[Thrifty]

We need to firmly decide how to act against the Turkish-occupation gangs that invaded Syria! Do not mumble, but show the Sultan that he and his gangs do not belong there.

[Walking]

Quote: Thrifty

We need to firmly decide how to act against the Turkish-occupation gangs that invaded Syria! Do not mumble, but show the Sultan that he and his gangs do not belong there.

Decision will not be enough, they will express concern.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Zaurbek

Interestingly, is the sky in Idlib closed to the Turkish Air Force?

“The airspace above the Idlib de-escalation zone is constantly monitored by the Russian Aerospace Forces. The Turkish Air Force’s planes did not violate the state border of Syria, there were no attacks on the positions of the Syrian troops, ”the Russian Center for Reconciliation in Syria said in a statement

[Mar.Tirah]

Here is the answer to the generals about the Turkish divan troops on the site ..

[rocket757]

Big muddy porridge ... so it will be until someone specific has put all the points over E!
Let's see who Faberge is made of.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: rocket757

Let's see who Faberge is made of

Are there any doubts about Russian Fabergés? Now we will "feel" the Turkish ones ... The scale so far does not correspond to serious actions. The Turks always boast of annihilating their enemies by the thousands ... the East ...

[rocket757]

Not a prophet, I won’t guess. We will see.
When such a mess, different layers can be ... they don’t report to us. We will judge by the external manifestations that we will be allowed to see.
It’s not necessary that it turns out that way, any hidden thing can also be.

[stepka_razin]

And what, there are doubts about Russian Faberge?

After April 14, 2018 there are no doubts left

[donavi49]

And not only. FSB officers flew in too. According to one version. They forgot to warn that the army had already abandoned the village and they drove along the road - where they caught ATGM. According to another version, they ran into a land mine. 3 died immediately, 1 died before assistance.

Also in the same sector, the 4th division of Maher al-Assad, as always, got on his slippers - leaving the fleet of vehicles. The result was the Uzbeks T-90 and BMPhu.

Some government officials write that the race was in a panic because of a sudden attack and the crews simply jumped into the first Toyota and dumped them from the village. Others write that the mechanic tried to leave - but something bugged and chopped off. Well, he abandoned the tank (though this does not fit in with the BMPha standing nearby - which they also threw).

On the other hand, there is a plus. Failures are so far localized by Maher’s auxiliary offensive section with his 4 division. The main blow is done in Idlib and everything is fine there so far. . There, the Turks crumbled by the way.

[aszzz888]

donavi49 Today, 09:29 Result Uzbeks received the T-90 and BMPhu.

But this is nothing ???

[donavi49]

Tawhid Jihod - the group that captured this village. These are Tajik-Uzbeks, now Uzbeks are Islamists.

[Jack O'Neill]

It seems like they fired at and killed four FSB officers with mortars.
The Syrians, as the kneading began, gave them a pair of slippers, leaving our FSB officers behind.
In general, this is not the first time that ours help them, but they give them in slippers.

[donavi49]

Well, version two:
- something flew in, very accurately.
- landmine.

[Jack O'Neill]

But most write about mortar shelling. Although there could be both mortars and land mines.

[Gray brother]

Quote: donavi49

FSB officers flew in too

And the Orenburg football team "Gazovik" in full force.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: donavi49

3 died immediately, 1 died before assistance.

In Syria, on February 1, four officers of the Special Forces Center of the FSB (Federal Security Service) of Russia were killed. This was reported by Viktor Yagun, deputy head of the Ukrainian Security Service, on his Facebook page. in a land mine, driving a car. The rebels, who arrived at the site of the death of the group, apparently, finished off with control shots to the head. The bodies of the FSB officers are also among the rebels. Judging by the information available, negotiations are underway, through Turkey, to return the bodies, ”said Viktor Yagun. You’ve already decided ??????? They’ve already buried with the militants, or what’s interesting on all the sites is precisely these photos with the site’s logo. Http://cripo.com.ua/news/world/v-sirii-pogibli -chetyre-ofitsera-spetsnaza-fsb-rossii-ih-zastrelili-posle-podryva-na-fugase /

[donavi49]

Well this is nonsense from ukrosmi. If there were bodies, then there would be many photos, from different angles, with different bearded men in the frame. Moreover, again there (in that sector) the Turkestans attacked, and they love to post pictures of the killed and executed on Twitter.

[bessmertniy]

The Turks themselves provoke the CAA. Syria did not ask Turkey to send troops into its territory. And, if the Turks use weapons against the "Assad forces", they commit an act of aggression against a sovereign state.

[donavi49]

Well, the question is - will Erdogan or psycho hold on. If freaking out, then tomatoes again.

They officially took up a circular defense at the junction of the M4 and M5, as well as Sarakib itself. In view of the failure of the CAA to ceasefire. The tigers immediately turned west and went around the Turkish positions.

The Turks actually introduced a tactical group with Sabras having KAZ, Firtins and army men, and not all irregular broads.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: donavi49

Well, the question is - will Erdogan or psycho hold on. If freaking out, then tomatoes again.
They officially took up a circular defense at the junction of the M4 and M5, as well as Sarakib itself. In view of the failure of the CAA to ceasefire. The tigers immediately turned west and went around the Turkish positions.

Provocation by the bearded. In principle, yesterday I approximately expected this, but I made a mistake with the roadblocks. not three in the rear, but two Turkish b / p. Idlib CAA is 13 km away. and therefore, I do not exclude the possibility that the shelling of the column was agreed to untie Edik's hands.

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: PalBor

Yesterday, 21: 55
Turkey throws tanks and other armored vehicles to Syrian Idlib Rather, a shield for militants. We are confident that the SAA and VKS will not strike at militants for fear of entering the Turks. Well I do not know.

Is not a fact. Now in the rear of the SAA there are three Turkish roadblocks to which jihadists also pressed, but they were kicked out of there and moved on, and the Turks are sitting on them and playing backgammon. They do not touch, so as not to give Erdogan a reason to use force. The front of the bearded collapsed and they are rapidly losing control of the province. Most likely, Ankara, introducing additional forces, seeks to stake out a section of the territory in order to ensure by its presence a breakdown in the further development of the offensive in the main direction. Only figs him knows what line of interest they can control along the front and what opportunities the SAA has in order to bypass them from the flanks and also leave them in the rear, without giving reasons for striking their units ... although here their bearded wards can play along with them by launching several mines at their place of deployment in order to blame the Syrians and thereby cause a "return" fire.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Provocation by the bearded.

It has already been published that there is no provocation. On the night of February 2 to 3, Turkish troops moved inside the Idlib de-escalation zone without notifying the Russian side, and came under fire from the Syrian military. This is reported by the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of the warring parties in Syria.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Mar. Tira

It has already been published that there is no provocation. On the night of February 2 to 3, Turkish troops moved inside the Idlib de-escalation zone without notifying the Russian side, and came under fire

Well then, they generally deservedly flew in. You never know who shy away at night, the war is all the same, and not the lightning. This column could even be crushed in the trash

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Well then, they generally deservedly flew in.

I agree. And the otter was inflated in such a way that it became scary to start. We started from Erdogan, we said we killed six soldiers in response +. It ended in a complete rout of the SAA, the destruction of the helipad and the killing of 60 people. Well, the rout of the MTR of the Russian Federation, naturally. they buried him with the publication of photographs. They killed him on the first of February and buried the second, what wasted time? Or was they taken prisoner, or the corpses were taken away for negotiations with Russia through Turkey, they have not decided yet. And this whole nonsense was picked up by VO ????? ? Instead of waiting for the official Message Center for Reconciliation of the warring parties

[flicker]

without notifying the Russian side, and came under fire from the Syrian military

For that, Erdogan seemed to be informed that they had been notified. The Turkish generals have a special account for Erdogan, for he mercilessly cleans them. They took and fed the hot-tempered sultan desu, he freaked out (the sultan after all). It seems that it’s time for Erdogan to start a new purge of the military, otherwise they will hand him over to the geldings, and they have a special account for the Sultan.

[Zeev Zeev]

There is no KAZ on M60T "Sabra". At least Israeli. Although ... Ukrainians sold their KAZ "Zaslon" to the Turks,
just for installation on the "Sabra", so we'll see, there is a real competitor to our "Windbreaker"

[donavi49]

Already have. PULAT. These blocks are detection:

Shells here - here.

[Zeev Zeev]

Well, that's what I say - Ukrainian "Zaslon". The Ukrainian Armed Forces, like the BV, used this KAZ in limited quantities in 2015 in the Donbass, in 2018 they began to supply it to Turkey.

[alexmach]

Well, that's what I say - Ukrainian "Zaslon"

There is no KAZ on M60T "Sabra"

Say Say. Talker.

[cniza]

The Turkish President’s press service says the assad’s forces fired. It is stated that in response, Turkish troops struck at the positions of the SAA. In particular, we are talking about the destruction of the Syrian battery.

Yes, this is not according to plan, maybe a big war will begin ...

[Azazelo]

duck she’s been there for several years

[cniza]

This is a small war, as cynical as it sounds, but it is ...

[Livonetc]

There will be no big war.
There will be prestige stocks.
Like the same mattresses.
Unless the Americans are untouchable, but the question is with the Turks ..

[cniza]

That's just the point, Erdogan needs war, but not with us, but with Assad ...

[Chervonny]

Quote: cniza

may a great war begin

Of course it can. But Assad does not need a war with Turkey, and the Turks seem to need it very much, which is why they are aggravating. Now all hope is for Russia. We do not need a war between Turkey and Syria. And that means there is a possibility, if not a big one, that Russia will manage to pay off not so much and not for long the confrontation between the two countries.

[Grandfather Crimea]

The war there, of course, with "peculiarities". But the fact that the Turks bobbed is a fact.

[donavi49]

Well, here you need to understand that for the Turks this war. For example, if the Ukrainian army breaks through the gut to Anthracite, immediately dissecting and threatening a quick assault from the rear of Donetsk. At the same time, counterattacks by local forces will fail. Observation posts with the OSCE and Russian Armed Forces officers will be costly in direct view.

How then to act? Nothing to do? So after all, the public will not understand. It’s already not really possible to solve the vacationers, although they will be involved (the 4th division has already felt - having ridden the village and T-90, with infantry fighting vehicles and other trifles). At a minimum, you must stop the attack by driving a cork. This is what Erdogan did. He occupied the fork M4 / M5 and Sarakib, already an army with an order for all-round defense.

To step on orchards, without roads, especially will not work. In the track (and in the M4 too), a Turkish traffic jam.

[Tzar]

The comparison is not entirely correct, Donbass is now almost at the stage of a frozen conflict, and the DPR is not shelling peaceful cities in Ukraine-controlled territory. In Syria, Erdogan harnesses for natural terrorists HTSH, TIP and others. So in this situation, he should be reasonably well advised. I wonder how this battle for the M5 will end ...

[donavi49]

But on the whole, it’s quite concrete - it’s emotional for the population, and this rules politicians, and this is military.

Syria has been Turkey since 1516. And almost entirely (with the exception of some regions of the East and the Euphrates. That is, Idlib, Damascus, Aleppo, Al-Bab (generally a heroic city, at the level of Kulikovo Field - where the empire was born). It is more than the left-bank Ukraine as part of Russia.

And here, in fact, the pro-Turkish militias and the generally friendly population / broads are being killed in the Turkish Donbass. Here is a little more and that’s it. Local forces are exhausted and can no longer stop the attacks of SAA. Of the combat-ready only HTS, Tavhidki remained, so there is no particular choice who to support.

[Tzar]

Wow, there’s more than enough emotions there. There was a video where locals lay sacrificial sheep on the way of the HTS convoy, so that Assad would not come.

[Gray brother]

The Turks and their bearded friends could pile up so that they would not sit at the "observation points". And the Turks themselves benefit from such an alignment to untie their hands.

[Vladimir Matveyev]

The Turks are completely overgrown.

[master 52]

this is how it should be done, not expressing concerns. who is stronger is right in this case, the Turks that they want and do

[protoss]

Assad failed the constitutional committee and relied on a forceful decision. however, it was the prospects for a peaceful solution through the constitution and elections that stopped Turkey from a military direct confrontation with the Asadites. it’s hard to guess what Erdogan is going to do now, but maybe all-in. we will not fight with him costs are even hard to calculate. Iran is now in tight contractions with the states and it would be completely undesirable to spoil relations with Turkey as well. and asad alone will not pull.

[master 52]

Well, if Assad doesn’t pull it, then 5 years of help from Syria will fly into the pipe, so we hope that if they rule it, don’t be

[alexddd]

Turkey commits aggression against a sovereign state. Syria must defend its land by unambiguously hitting Turkish troops. But it should be so in such cases. But in fact, in this equation or inequality with many unknowns, it is not clear what will happen ... I think that we do not even guess about the goals, participants and the main driving force of this war, and whoever guesses is silent .....

[Grandfather Crimea]

It would be like Ostap Bender playing chess to throw off pieces and smash the board on the opponent’s head. But you can see the gut is thin, sorry.

[Altai72]

[/ quote] The head of the press service of the Turkish president, Ibrahim Kalin, said on his Twitter microblog that there was a shelling of the Turkish military column. According to Kalyn, four Turkish soldiers died in Syrian Idlib. [Quote]

Well, at least these info do not pinch.

[flicker]

Erdogan, with his neo-Ottomanism, drove himself into a corner. The people should be presented with something from this direction: here is the occupation of Idlib, the introduction of troops into Syria, allegedly to fight the Kurds, the sending of the military contingent to Libya (which infuriates Egypt and the Arab world as a whole), etc., etc. In addition, Erdogan skillfully (and brazenly) balanced between the interests of Russia and the United States, extracting various political and economic benefits for Turkey, as a result, placed his seat in several chairs at once, which begin to diverge
The trouble for Erdogan is that the geldings are ready and happy to return Turkey to their arms, but without Erdogan. The geldings will never forgive the Turkish sultan of self-will, blackmail, etc. He is already a recruited political figure for them. So, if Russia turns its back on Erdogan, then it falls directly into the hands of the geldings, and then Gaddafi’s fate awaits him.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: flicker

So, if Russia turns its back on Erdogan, then it falls directly into the hands of the geldings, and then Gaddafi’s fate awaits him.

Gaddafi’s fate is lying! Kukan zombie puppet, rather ...

[Vasyan1971]

In particular, we are talking about the destruction of the Syrian battery.

So, how about a battery?

[rotmistr60]

an attack on the positions of militants in Idlib. Moreover, the latter used Turkish observation posts as a cover.

The foreign policy of some countries is pushing for outright villainies that hide behind the fight against terrorism. Outright hatred of Assad allows Turkey, the United States and some European countries to openly support terrorists pursuing their own goals.

[Chingachguk]

Abarzel Erdogan at the end already ..... Well, but we have a rocket gipper .... Well, what all of us kick as they want !!!

[flicker]

You are not from Israel for an hour?

[Chingachguk]

And in Israel, too, is there a hyper sound already?

[flicker]

I doubt that they just like to write with some mockery about our hypersonic missiles.

[Chingachguk]

I'm not mocking, I'm really proud of the Russian Federation! There is simply no sense from these missiles yet. Nobody is afraid to pull Putin's "mustache" .... They kick Russia as they want. The Turks are getting impudent, in the Donbass they are shooting at Russian-speaking people, and so on ...

[Chingachguk]

One powerful attack by the HIGH Syria on Turkish technology and its maximum destruction, when Russia closed the skies for Turkish aircraft, would have made Erdogan once again run to Putin! And so it will become more impudent and impudent!

[Grandfather Crimea]

This is fantastic! ))))) This will not happen. Just why?

[Kronos]

This would mean the beginning of the official new Russian Turkish war no more

[Chingachguk]

So what? It turns out that the Turks are not afraid of a conflict with Russia, and we are afraid of the Turks?

[Garris199]

One on one - they are afraid. We can kick them. But you need to understand who is happy to join in helping the Turks in this situation (Turkey is still in NATO if that). And here we can’t do it. The military position of the Russian Federation on the BV is liquid, it is sufficient for a local operation against the barmalei, but we will not be able to quickly build up the group and provide logistics in the event of a confrontation with the regular army. And vrazhin there everything is close. Nuclear weapons, of course, can equalize any alignment, but very good. I doubt that someone is seriously considering this option in the Syrian conflict. Therefore, we play the few that we have on hand here and now.

[Chingachguk]

Do you think that this option was not miscalculated by the command of the Russian Federation? Do you think that the command did not suggest that Erdogan is a political prostitute, and even ambitious to hell?

[Retvizan 8]

Yes, this time has come!
What a new day, then you look at the news one another is better!
And most importantly, the outcome of events can be either "nothing" at all, or very deplorable.
Although in the development of a full-blown conflict with Turkey, I still do not believe it.

[Mentat]

Quote: donavi49

Syria has been Turkey since 1516.

Oh really? And Turkey is a Byzantine empire. What's next?
Erdogash will jerk violently, they will besiege hard. No one needs him there.

[master 52]

Erdogan says he killed 40 Syrians with an answer, the Syrians say they didn’t kill anyone, ours say how many Turks didn’t warn about the entry of the columns. The question is why the Turks fired at the Syrians and who our bombed. and also the Ministry of Defense said that the Turks did not fly into Syrian airspace. And the Turks canceled the joint patrol probably offended

[Chaldon48]

Turks look like a bull with its head in an aspen nest. It's only the beginning.

[Dave36]

The Kremlin squeezed the groin ... let's see how it answers ...

[raki-uzo]

This is a different "level". Let's see how strong the "enviable partnership" between "Russia & Turkey" is. President Erdogan will finally realize soon that you can't keep all your eggs in one basket. Turkey, unfortunately, has recently moved away from its "balance policy".

[mammadov teymur]

well done Turks

[Pastor]

Too many (oil and gas producers) in Syria need controlled chaos, or constant tension. It is not needed only by the Syrians themselves. Who asked them ...

[Alexander Galaktionov]

There is bad news too. February 1, 2020, in the western part of Aleppo province, n.p. Al-Zahra, while assisting the SAA units at the forefront, the fighters took the fight (the reason and circumstances of the death were published by us yesterday in the news feed)

• Major • - Gimadiev Ruslan Akhmetovich (41 years old)
• Major • - Akhmatyanov Bulat Rizhatovich (32 years old)
• Captain • - Minov Dmitry Vasilievich (34 years)
• Lieutenant • - Trofimov Vsevolod Vyacheslavovich (32 years)

Everlasting memory.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Killed on February 1 in Syria, employees of the Central Security Service of the FSB.

[Chingachguk]

I do not believe. Where does infa come from?

[yfast]

Is it now the MTR to the front line in a foreign war will send holes to shut up?