Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?

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By his thoughtless actions aimed at further preserving the eternal and undivided rule of Belarus, its president Alexander Lukashenko brings exactly the opposite result: his own withdrawal from power. After the fact that he had almost completely accomplished the destruction by his hands of the real prospects for the creation of the Union State, it was time to think hard about what awaits the country, the independence and sovereignty of which it cares about in words. It is high time for Belarusians to ask questions about whether there is life after the “father” and what it can be.

Accepting Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Minsk and flirting with him (“Look at our“ dictatorship ”), Alexander Grigoryevich proves only one thing: his own inability to learn the latest stories. The fate of every single authoritarian ruler branded by the “progressive world community” with the low honor of dictators who wished to come to an agreement with the “collective West” and above all with Washington was not just sad, but tragic. The times when the United States, grimacing with disgust, endured personalities like Franco and Pinochet, seeing in them reliable balances of "world communist expansion", have long passed. Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar Gaddafi and especially Saddam Hussein could tell a lot about this. But they will not tell for completely understandable and well-known reasons.



In the “new Belarus”, which the West today is determined to build on the ruins of a union that has not yet become something of a real alliance between Moscow and Minsk, nobody needs a “father” in any form or status. It suits Russia, it is the Kremlin that suffers its demarches, time after time trying to exhort and without interfering in internal affairs. You can’t expect anything like this from the White House. In his extremely tight schedule, Mr. Pompeo took the time to meet with the Belarusian “democratic opposition”, who correctly accepted this gesture and immediately perked up. The Secretary of State’s promised early appointment of a plenipotentiary ambassador to Minsk means, first and foremost, that the US diplomatic mission there will open its doors for candidates to “look” for just that chair for which Lukashenko is so frantically clinging.

Given the local specifics and national characteristics, without the "Maidan", perhaps, it will cost. In this land of frightened sovereign husbands who do not have a true idea of ​​the likelihood of the Americans fulfilling their promises, most likely, those who calmly “surrender” Alexander Grigoryevich will find themselves in his closest circle. In the highest echelons of power - that’s for sure. Well, then specially trained employees of the same embassy will slowly remove them from the stage to put on key posts their own, verified, well-fed and trained staff in the USA. Some crumbs will go to the local "zmagars" - so that they more diligently praise the "fall of totalitarianism" and the "coming of the era of democracy." In the end, do not import all the "elders" from across the ocean. Its enough satiated.

The political “field” of Belarus is “unrolled”, “leveled” and “rammed up” by the “father’s” bulldozer no worse than beautiful roads in the same country. Not a single conditionally “anti-Western” or “pro-Russian” force capable of withstanding this scenario today exists in nature, just as they did not exist, by the way, in Ukraine in 2013-2014. Alas, in advance that they were, we did not bother, but now it's too late. If suddenly there are desperate heads who will try to come to their senses to recoup the situation, trying to save the country from the fate of another American colony, then ... Several hundred citizens of Belarus have already passed through the war in the Donbass on the side of Kiev, and as part of the "national battalions". So the appearance of their “Right Sector” (in the ranks of this organization, which was banned in the Russian Federation, in Ukraine there were a whole tactical group of Belarusians) or some “National squads” that could provide reprisals against the “quilted jackets” is quite real. Unless, of course, those will be in demand and acceptable to Western owners.

Of course, Moscow and Minsk today have certain agreements in the defense sphere, but if events continue to develop in the same vein as now, or if the change of power takes place in Belarus “from above”, peacefully and without bloodshed, they can be denounced before our country has time to react to what is happening. And then "peacekeeping forces" from neighboring Poland or the Baltic countries will enter the country, and our troops stationed there will be asked for a way out.

Economy of Belarus? Today, it is based, in fact, on two "pillars" - Russian and Chinese. The final hit of Minsk into Washington’s orbit will mean curtailing cooperation in both areas. Pompeo can promise Belarusians “100% oil supply”, investments, development and even “the arrival of American enterprises” as much as they want. Here is just an example of neighboring Ukraine, which at one time was promised even more, perfectly demonstrates how it will actually be. Life after Lukashenko as the head of state and the breakup he created with Russia, of course, will be. The question is which one. The same West can no longer leave the right to traditional "multi-vector".
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  1. +15
    3 February 2020 07: 07
    It’s interesting that Father’s dancing ... yesterday with Putin by the handle today with Pompeo ... well, just a unique person ... soul guy.
    1. +17
      3 February 2020 07: 18
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      It’s interesting that Father’s dancing ... yesterday with Putin by the handle today with Pompeo ... well, just a unique person ... soul guy.

      There is no money, the prospects are not clear ... I don’t want to go to Rostov, so it’s not like that. Pay attention, "batsko" is trying to create competition from "sponsors" on his territory, but it is not clear how much more opportunities he has to keep the situation.
      1. +4
        3 February 2020 07: 56
        "No money, prospects are not clear", good good , at whom, at the "dad" or Belarus.
        1. +3
          3 February 2020 08: 41
          Something and a successor is imperceptible in the Belarusian political horizon. When the Old Man has to leave, it will be guaranteed that there will be a serious struggle for power of the incomprehensible gray cardinals. lol
          1. +5
            3 February 2020 08: 54
            Is there life after the "father"?
            THERE IS! Like after Putin.
            1. +1
              3 February 2020 08: 58
              The answer is rhetorical: is it really life if neither Old Man, nor Putin can please us with his jokes anymore. wassat
              1. +3
                3 February 2020 09: 43
                Everything in the article is true, but one thing is not clear how to convey this to the father himself. It is unlikely that he reads VO, and if he reads, does he listen ...
                1. +3
                  3 February 2020 10: 48
                  Lukashenko has an IAC, so he has much more information than we can imagine.
          2. +2
            3 February 2020 12: 20
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Something and a successor is imperceptible in the Belarusian political horizon.


            How not noticeable! "Lukash 2" laughing
        2. +1
          3 February 2020 09: 34
          And I think that the old man has prospects to repeat the fate of Ceausescu ...
          1. 0
            3 February 2020 15: 44
            If you do not have time to escape to Russia. And even that is not a fact that it will be saved.
      2. 0
        3 February 2020 09: 46
        Quote: svp67
        "batsko" tries to create competition from "sponsors" on his territory

        hi
        But this is not serious. He will have to make a choice, at the same time, I think, the fate of the people mentioned in the article, plus the Pakistani Mushsharaf, the former Egyptian president, are well known to him and should suggest reasonable thoughts.
        1. +4
          3 February 2020 09: 49
          hi
          Quote: Alekseev
          But this is not serious.

          As you can see, more than ...
          Quote: Alekseev
          he is well known and should suggest reasonable thoughts.

          I am afraid that at some point, some "irremovable" begin to think that they are "the most intelligent" ...
      3. +3
        3 February 2020 10: 49
        Quote: svp67
        tries to create competition from "sponsors" on its territory

        This is when this striped country sponsored !? Maximum of their "sons of a female dog"!
    2. +2
      3 February 2020 09: 21
      Nevertheless, the United States has so far successfully managed to shield our country with a chain of hostile regimes.
      1. -2
        3 February 2020 09: 42
        Rather, the Kremlin is working on it.
        1. -1
          3 February 2020 10: 01
          What exactly the Kremlin should do is understandable. How can he do this?
          1. +8
            3 February 2020 11: 02
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            What exactly the Kremlin should do is understandable. How can he do this?

            With Gardamir, the Kremlin is to blame only because it is the Kremlin. That's the fault and that's it. And what he must do in order to keep the "father" in the sphere of his influence, he does not know. Probably just fill up with money and accept any of his whims. Belarusians are frightened by Russian oligarchs, but they are urged not to be afraid of Western corporations, although the latter have never been concerned about the fate of the aborigines anywhere. Well, Crimea became part of Russia, so what? Has it got worse in Crimea? No. And Belarus, having entered integration, would receive additional economic bonuses + the same energy resources at Russian prices. The problem is that Grygorych wants to get everything on the minimum wage, but he OWNS EVERYTHING himself, and having heard the phrase - "money in the evening chairs in the morning", decided to PAY EVIL FOR THE FAVOREST. We do not have problems of relations at the everyday (national) level, we have the problem of one person, Lukashenka. In an effort to preserve his power, he is ready to sacrifice sovereignty and people. Now, when he was released in the Kremlin on an autonomous voyage, he began to actively make critical mistakes, which in the foreseeable future will come to him sideways.
            1. +1
              3 February 2020 11: 23
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              he began to actively make critical mistakes, which in the foreseeable future will come to him sideways.

              Or to the side, it’s so lucky!
            2. +1
              3 February 2020 11: 46
              Personally, all these evolutions remind me of the behavior of a nonsense woman who, in order for her man to be jealous of her and, as a result, showered with all kinds of offerings, twists her tail in front of another.
              Such a woman does not even enter into the head that this herny man can in the end just spit, turn around and leave with the thoughts: "I'm tired. Fuck you gave me up like that?"
            3. 0
              6 February 2020 07: 14
              For almost 30 years I have somehow managed without "critical errors". I'm not a fan of Batka, but plowed fields all over Belarus and trucks with tractors
              in the Russian Federation speak for themselves.
          2. -2
            3 February 2020 12: 56
            The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that the inhabitants of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia. So that the Russians are proud that they are Russians, and the rest are envious.
            "How can he do it?"
            Is the question posed in the Kremlin like that?
            Therefore, all run away from Moscow, like the devil from incense.
            1. 0
              3 February 2020 13: 25
              Who exactly is running away? Belarusians?
              1. -4
                3 February 2020 14: 29
                Eastern Europe, the Baltic States, Central Asia, the Caucasus, Ukraine are not enough for you?
                Who, for example, left Washington's allies from NATO?
                I can’t decide for Belarusians, they’ll decide for themselves ...
                1. +5
                  3 February 2020 15: 46
                  Quote: prior
                  The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that the inhabitants of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia. So that the Russians are proud that they are Russians, and the rest are envious.
                  "How can he do it?"
                  Is the question posed in the Kremlin like that?
                  Therefore, all run away from Moscow, like the devil from incense.

                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Who exactly is running away? Belarusians?

                  Quote: prior
                  Eastern Europe, the Baltic States, Central Asia, the Caucasus, Ukraine are not enough for you?
                  Vlad you are not interpreting the events correctly. After the collapse of the USSR, everyone rushed, not just from Russia, but everyone, rushed into the arms of the West. If you haven't forgotten, Russia also took an active part in this cross for a certain time and in some places was in the lead, until it reached the debt bondage from the IMF and the 1998 default. Only after realizing that no one in the West wants to see it on an equal footing, Russia slowed down its pace, which cannot be said about the countries that you listed. If Russia, realizing the realities and assessing the remaining potential, the military and economic (albeit raw material) which allowed to take off the financial stranglehold, decided to follow the path of restoring its sovereignty, then these countries continued to engage in political prostitution, since in their case, they do not have there were no drivers for economic growth and survival, except for one resource - to sell Russophobia. Even if after a while all Russians begin to eat from golden plates, carry manure to Infinity and go to silver chamber pots, these countries will not be allowed to return to the Russian sphere of influence, since these are Western rams and they are shearing wool from them. A peaceful return is not possible until the "hegemon" really gets on the ears, which if it happens, it will not be very soon. Belarus and Russia at the level of the people are not antagonists at all, and the peoples have no problem in relations. The problem rests on one personality of Lukashenka and his inner circle, who are ready to sacrifice the country's sovereignty for only one purpose - to preserve the throne and portfolio of power. Having got involved in the game "blind man's buff" with mattresses, you can easily not only stumble over the threshold, you can even break your neck falling into the abyss. All these conversations, like "but create the conditions, and then .." in favor of the underdeveloped. When everything is brought to the level, as you write, that everyone will start bursting into Russia, then the question arises, do we need freeloaders and parasites who are ready to come to devour three throats from a ready-made Russian pie? It is necessary to build and create together, which was proposed to Grygorych.
                  Quote: prior
                  Who, for example, left Washington's allies from NATO?
                  There is a dollar entry, a weaving exit or a bullet in the forehead. Who will come out? Only forward feet.
            2. 0
              3 February 2020 16: 26
              Quote: prior
              The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that residents of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia

              To do this, it is necessary to stop sponsoring right and left "friendly countries" like Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan. Close the labor market from unskilled guest workers from the same place and from other camps. Do not support foreign producers to the detriment of domestic ones (such as Belarusian refineries, MZKT, dairy production and potash fertilizers). Introduce customs duties on imported goods. Tighten the acquisition of Russian citizenship.

              Only I'm afraid "Belarusian and other brothers" won't like such measures
    3. 0
      4 February 2020 23: 47
      Our position is the position of the "terpily" always from below.
      Negotiations with Lukashenka are coming soon, and as a result there will be a crazy dumping of energy resources for "passionate brothers Belarusians". Lukashenka will come home and file a new lawsuit against Russia ... and pay again in silence ...
      We pay all fraternal and non-fraternal coins.
  2. +13
    3 February 2020 07: 15
    Yes, there is, there is ... where does this life go. The question is, what will this life be like? The same "quiet and dignified" as under "Father" or "painted with smoke of burning tires, torches and processions of" fighters against Muscovites, for the bright ideals of European democracy ""?
    1. +2
      3 February 2020 07: 43
      Is there life after the dad or not, science is not yet known.
      1. +7
        3 February 2020 07: 59
        Do not drink from a democratic hoof - you will become a kid! crying
        1. +2
          3 February 2020 08: 20
          And what does it have to do with it? Purely a statement of fact, this is not yet known to science, and the last thing is to trust the forecasts of political scientists and other fortune-tellers on coffee grounds.
          1. 0
            3 February 2020 08: 22
            Quote: Evil543
            and believe the forecasts of political scientists

            I don’t believe them for a long time! hi
          2. +1
            3 February 2020 10: 52
            Quote: Evil543
            And what does it have to do with it? Purely a statement of fact, this is not yet known to science, and the last thing is to trust the forecasts of political scientists and other fortune-tellers on coffee grounds.

            And the "dad" is simply terrifying before meeting with the President of the Russian Federation.
        2. +2
          3 February 2020 08: 29
          oh, Volodya, if only a kid ... and there it could be
          1. +1
            3 February 2020 08: 36
            "Death has a beautiful wide grin
            And healthy, strong teeth. "

            Do not scare people!
            Roma hi
            1. +2
              3 February 2020 10: 46
              yes there are such people ... hello hi
              1. 0
                3 February 2020 10: 56
                A people as a people, different, different, you will not please everyone crying
                1. +3
                  3 February 2020 10: 57
                  but to hell with what scare lol
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2020 15: 53
                    That is why during the war, of all the prisoners, the Germans were most afraid of the Russian prisoners.
    2. +1
      3 February 2020 08: 43
      Quote: svp67
      The same "quiet and dignified", as with "Father" or "painted with the smoke of burning tires,

      In a quiet pool there are always devils. I remember how Lukashenko immediately after the collapse of the USSR, traveled around Russia trying to bargain for benefits in supplies, swearing in Belarusians love for Russians. Then it didn’t work out badly. But as they say how much rope you can’t curl up and you won’t spend capitalism. He arranged for his grandchildren, and you can also show independence. As for others, love will work.
  3. +9
    3 February 2020 07: 17
    Something, I doubt that if someone from the Baltic states and Poles asks our military to leave, they will agree. Yes, and even the USA does not have free money, from the word at all, this is not Russia for you
    1. -4
      3 February 2020 08: 44
      The Americans have already buried enough money in Ukraine to repeat this experience with Belarus. Pompeo is a naive American three-legged losharik. fool
      1. +3
        3 February 2020 09: 20
        Quote: bessmertniy
        The Americans have already buried enough money in Ukraine to repeat this experience with Belarus.

        They will easily bury as much as they want in Belarus. The vector for the alienation of the border Russian territories from the orbit of Russia's influence will be fulfilled - this is their task and the money ... - they will print new ones, this is not the first time for them.
        1. +1
          3 February 2020 09: 23
          Well, Trump has started to save money in Ukraine. Again, how much has been invested in Iraq, but still that "field of miracles". The American president also permanently does not want to look like a stupid wooden Buratino to others. hi
  4. +5
    3 February 2020 07: 37
    Unfortunately, personally, I can not say anything about life in Belarus - only passing through. But a strange thing. Until recently, I read in the media that the dad, although a man with oddities, is a strong business executive, he has order, he has cool roads and cleanliness. And it turns out that there is corruption. and poverty and lack of democracy. Although, according to Russian experience, the lack of democracy is more of a praise, because in Russia there is a democrat in power, a tyrant, and a democrat in opposition is a shameless pig. This turn reminded me of the Soviet media. And so it seems to me. that dad went the way of Yanukovych. He also began by whining to sell gas to him at a cheaper price. But frankly, you have to pay for love, alas, any mother-in-law will be angry at the most agreeable son-in-law if he stops bringing money to the family. And our "partners" have already revived. Polish "fighters for democracy" in Western Belarus have been working for a long time. And then the hegemon came to check. what and how. All this is sad.
    1. +5
      3 February 2020 08: 52
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Unfortunately, I personally can’t say anything about life in Belarus - just passing through

      But I can, because I live here on an ongoing basis.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      I read recently in the media that the Old Man, although he is a strange person, but a strong business executive, he has order, he has cool roads and cleanliness.

      Have you read the media of Belarus? For this reason, I can refer only to the famous quote from Professor Preobrazhensky.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      And so it seems to me. that dad went dear Yanukovych.

      He has his own road - personal. On all others (including their people) deeply ....... (not censored).
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      But frankly, you have to pay for love,

      That you are hinting at a woman with reduced social responsibility. If to him, then maybe. If the people of the Republic of Belarus - I strongly disagree
      .
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      And our "partners" have already revived.

      Already revived. And in the Russian Federation they are still "sleeping". The impression is that they do not really need the pro-Russian government in the Republic of Belarus.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Polish "fighters for democracy" in Western Belarus have been working for a long time.

      And enjoy great success, especially among young people.
      1. 0
        3 February 2020 09: 24
        [quote = vvvjak] [/ quote]
        The sad thing is that you write. Only confirm the worst fears and expectations. Our authorities will again rest on their laurels
      2. +1
        3 February 2020 11: 24
        Quote: vvvjak
        And in the Russian Federation they are still "sleeping". The impression is that they do not really need the pro-Russian government in the Republic of Belarus.

        You just keep in mind that the Old Man is ready to close his eyes to Polish and other Zmagar organizations, and even supports them as opposed to Russian influence. Like, you see the people for independence, but I would have organized a united state so long ago. Therefore, it is not in the Kremlin that they are not interested in pro-Russian power in Belarus, but the Old Man is afraid of losing this power. And he is definitely not pro-Russian, he is Probatkovsky.
    2. +5
      3 February 2020 09: 23
      All this "strong economy" is based solely on the kindness of Russia.
      And he will run to us anyway, if anything, and of course he will also be accepted as a "multi-vector" Yanuca.
      1. 0
        3 February 2020 10: 01
        Quote: Megatron
        And he will run to us anyway

        Not a fact, slipped infa about Saudi Arabia (the type of OBS).
        Quote: Megatron
        and of course it will also be accepted as a "multi-vector" Yanuca.

        Of course they will. Especially if the "kilometer" will bring money with him (like a Yanuca), but he must take into account the fact that the "milking" will not be too weak.
        1. 0
          3 February 2020 16: 00
          And even if Islam accepts.
    3. 0
      3 February 2020 12: 25
      "But frankly, you have to pay for love, alas, any mother-in-law will be angry at the most agreeable son-in-law, if he stops bringing money to the family."
      Wow, but I was stupid thought that only a certain category of citizens was paid for love. And the mother-in-law "will be angry" when he brings money to a neighbor.
  5. +5
    3 February 2020 07: 58
    Nothing good is foreseen. Events can begin to develop so rapidly that we don’t have time to run away with popcorn either. A little more and father will not be allowed to play back. And forward, these are tires, pans, horses and ... blood. Sad, however.
    1. 0
      3 February 2020 08: 57
      Quote: ochakow703
      A little more and father will not be allowed to play back. And forward, these are tires, pans, horses and ... blood

      Well, who did not allow Yanukovych to play? The lack of eggs. The dad with this is all right so far, despite his age. However, yes, flirting with the West will not bring to good, this is a fact.
      1. +2
        3 February 2020 09: 29
        Quote: bot.su
        The dad with this is all right so far, despite his age.

        Judging by flirting with the West, it’s not all right, and age is more likely to be of some help. Another thing is flirting, and in general this place will be lost. And then who will take it into account as well as Yanukovych? Such advances are not worked out by stupid analysts and jumping from them just like that without losing their image in the face of the West will certainly not work for Old Man, unless of course he is a political suicide (he wanted yours and ours, parity, so to speak)
        1. 0
          3 February 2020 10: 28
          Quote: DenZ
          Judging by flirting with the West, it’s not all right, and age is more likely to be of some help here.

          And what is your statement based on? Initial facts and conclusions?

          Quote: DenZ
          Such advances are not worked out by stupid analysts.

          That is, in the West there are analysts, but in Belarus they are not? North Korea won for more than half a century playing on the contradictions between Moscow, Beijing and Washington, and nothing, Maidan is not expected.
          Quote: DenZ
          jumping from them just like that without losing the image in the face of the West, the Old Man will definitely fail, unless of course he is a political suicide

          Did you understand what you said? I didn’t understand anything, but I know for sure the image, this is a phenomenon invented so that the boys, called image makers, could rake money with a shovel from the air. And, in fact, he is no longer suitable for anything.

          Quote: DenZ
          And then who will take him into account in general, like Yanukovych?

          Yanukovych, to continue to take into account, had to give a clear order.
      2. 0
        3 February 2020 11: 36
        Like who? Those who today propose to 100% solve the problem of oil supplies. Free only in a mousetrap.
  6. +3
    3 February 2020 08: 03
    "The economy of Belarus? Today it is based, in fact, on two" whales "- Russian and Chinese."
    It is pointless to hope for China in this situation. After a recent agreement with the United States, they will not help.
  7. +7
    3 February 2020 08: 04
    The economy of Belarus in its current state needs an annual infusion (through loans, cheap oil, gas, etc.) of $ 8-10 billion. If father is gone tomorrow, the need for this money will not go anywhere. Of course, you can live without this money. But, as you might guess, the quality of life will deteriorate. That's the whole layout.
  8. -11
    3 February 2020 08: 10
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?
    You can just as well ask, is there life after Putin? ... The problem is not in Belarus, the problem is in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs. Ukraine, sorry, pissed away, now they are ready to lose Belarus, in which the state sector of the economy is strong, which our Russian "masters of life" cannot accept. Yes, "butt" for our bourgeoisie did not lie, but would lie, not the fact that the same BelAZ would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of the "optimized" and bankrupt enterprises of Russia. For me, it would be better if Alexander Grigorievich was the president of a united and indivisible Russia.
    1. +6
      3 February 2020 08: 20
      Your father is the bourgeois of the Middle Ages. Even as a janitor is not needed in the Russian Federation.
    2. +15
      3 February 2020 08: 21
      Again, the Russian Federation is to blame ?!) Oh, God) It reminds you of the nagging of Eastern Europe, which, as they entered NATO, they said it was the Russians' fault, they left us all ...
      Guys! Wake up already, it's been 30 years! You are all "grown up and independent" for a long time! Enough of infantilism! The Russian Federation should first of all feed its regions, not Ukraine, etc.
      1. -5
        3 February 2020 08: 34
        Quote: Cottodraton
        Again, the Russian Federation is to blame ?!) Oh, God)
        There is no need to engage in verbiage here, we are not talking about Russia and the Russian people, but about those who now rule. Well, have you changed the "bear" for "teddy bear", has the optimism surged? In Belarus, at least something is left of socialism, so the economy of Belarus is still alive, Belarus does not have such a margin of safety for robbery and the collapse of the country, as in Russia, so Lukashenka is spinning like in a frying pan. Yes, what can you say, your job is so ...
        1. +3
          3 February 2020 09: 50
          So if you were spinning around an adult you would be a good judge. There is no state in the world that is fed for beautiful eyes except Belarus. The fact that Belarus somehow keeps the full merit of the Russian Federation.
        2. -1
          4 February 2020 10: 20
          This economy remained in spite of the "bear". For as soon as they want to, the Republic of Belarus will not have any economy.
          A whiskered puree, for some reason, leads with his tantrums and cunning
    3. +1
      3 February 2020 09: 10
      Old Man is good for Belarus. But what will he do as president of Russia? Where will the money go? To Washington or Beijing? Habit is second nature ...
      1. 0
        3 February 2020 10: 19
        Putin is the president of Russia. Does he ask a lot?
        1. 0
          3 February 2020 10: 33
          So Putin. Lukashenko has a completely different experience.
      2. 0
        3 February 2020 11: 22
        Quote: bot.su
        Old Man is good for Belarus. ...


        obscene! And everything that you imagine will be too restrained and soft.
        1. 0
          3 February 2020 22: 33
          Quote: Gost2012
          obscene! And everything that you imagine will be too restrained and soft.

          Your trianhydrite peroxide of manganese through copper sulfate ...? laughing
    4. +4
      3 February 2020 10: 31
      Enough of the mantra to howl ro Russian oligarchs ... well, already tired of her god ...
      1. 0
        3 February 2020 10: 57
        And what? Experience has already been. Unimilk, Slavneft, Uralkali, Gazprom. Read about gas wars. This is about large companies only.
    5. 0
      3 February 2020 19: 00
      Quote: Per se.
      the problem in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs

      I wonder if there is a country's land on the planet without oligarchs. Well, except North Korea and Antarctica. And why are Russian oligarchs more nasty than Belarusian, American or Chinese? And if you shoot all the domestic oligarchs, then Lukashenko lifts up his ports and rushes into the union state
      Quote: Per se.
      Excuse me, they pissed off Ukraine, now Belarus is ready to lose, in which the state sector of the economy is strong

      But when will it reach you. Russia will completely manage without Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan. But their population will come a furry animal. The choice is not rich. Go to Australia, subsistence farming or integrate into an alliance with the Russian Federation.
      Quote: Per se.
      Yes, "butt" for our bourgeoisie did not lie, but would lie, not the fact that the same BelAZ would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of the "optimized" and bankrupt enterprises of Russia.

      And where, in the absence of a union state, Belaz will sell Belaz?
  9. 0
    3 February 2020 08: 26
    Once abroad, I bought a newspaper "USA today".
    It was in the late 90s. At the turn, a map of the former USSR and the former East European social camp was drawn.
    Countries "democratic" were white, "democracies" were gray, and countries "headed by tyrants" were black.
    All European fragments of the former CMEA were whiter than snow.
    Just like the Baltic states.
    The rest of the Union was treacherously gray. Including Russia.
    And only in the place of Belarus proudly flaunted a coal-black spot. There was Lukashenko.
    But father did not allow to plunder the country.
    He did not have home-grown Chubais and Gaidars ...
    Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.
    Belarus did not have gas and oil, but Lukashenko understood that the current rulers of Russia would certainly sell them to him.
    They will sell their own mother - they would pay money ...
    The years passed. But father was getting old. Apparently something happened in the character of an unyielding "dictator".
    Something went wrong.
    Soon elections in Belarus. Syabry will say their word ... stop
    1. +2
      3 February 2020 09: 23
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.

      He was not so beggarly due to his geographical position and climate, and also because in the USSR most of the resources of the union budget were thrown into the BSSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the Baltic states. It was on this "golden parachute" that they existed, with the difference that in Ukraine the oligarchs took away whoever they could, with a weak centralized government, and in Belarus all the cream was skimmed by Old Man and his team. But it seems that now they have already ceased to suffice, so tantrums began.
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      2. -1
        3 February 2020 09: 59
        Not so impoverished due to geographical location and climate, and also because in the USSR most of the resources of the Union budget were concentrated just in the BSSR, USSR, and the Baltic states.

        What was "thrown" into Ukraine and the Baltic states was plundered "once".
        Apparently - your idols ...
        Now these idols are ready to take control of Belarus. Rejoice!
        1. +1
          3 February 2020 10: 04
          There is nothing to rejoice, if Old Man began to move along the path of Yanukovych, then Western partners will tidy up the good. With the Russian Federation, the burden of subsidies will fall ...
    2. 0
      3 February 2020 11: 25
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      ...
      But father did not allow to plunder the country.
      He did not have home-grown Chubais and Gaidars ...
      Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.
      Soon elections in Belarus. Syabry will say their word ... stop


      this is a clinic ..
  10. -1
    3 February 2020 08: 46
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?

    Just see how it goes.
    There, at the top, they keep their hand on the pulse, probably?
  11. +1
    3 February 2020 08: 52
    And where will the old man go then? But China is still far away.
  12. +5
    3 February 2020 08: 58
    Quote: Per se.
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?
    You can just as well ask, is there life after Putin? ... The problem is not in Belarus, the problem is in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs. Ukraine, sorry, pissed away, now they are ready to lose Belarus, in which the state sector of the economy is strong, which our Russian "masters of life" cannot accept. Yes, "butt" for our bourgeoisie did not lie, but would lie, not the fact that the same BelAZ would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of the "optimized" and bankrupt enterprises of Russia. For me, it would be better if Alexander Grigorievich was the president of a united and indivisible Russia.

    Well, yes, yes, Russia slept through everything, a favorite topic in Ukraine and Belarus. And the fact that these are long independent countries and themselves decide the direction of their development, we, as it were, do not take into account. But here everything is just really, enter the structure of Russia and then it will completely determine the development of new territories, as with Crimea. Or live on your own, but be responsible for your own destiny. And then we are independent, but Russia is to blame for everything.
  13. +6
    3 February 2020 09: 03
    But father only cares about himself beloved. He doesn't give a damn about Belarusians. If the West guarantees him immunity in exchange for a complete drain of Belarus, he will easily do it. He will grab a "chest with piastres" and will somewhere on the Cote d'Azur "grow sklis" before a memoir to write about how he fought with the Russian Federation, pretending to be a dictator. And we will get a second Ukraine.
  14. -5
    3 February 2020 09: 08
    Old Man, if you give him the resources of Russia, it will certainly be no worse than V.V.P. , and maybe it’s better. All his throwing because Belarus does not have oil and gas, and the fact that all these years Belarusians have lived more or less tolerably, is purely a merit of the father. Such a politician and business executive must still be sought in the post-Soviet space. The unification of our republics will end after Lukashenko’s clash with the Russian oligarchs, and the future of both Belarus and Russia depends on the outcome of this struggle. What will happen to us under the oligarchs, I imagine - the slow degradation of the Russian world, poured from above with thick molasses of patriotic speeches, but Old Man, as a possible leader of the union state, I would give a chance. And you ?
    1. -2
      3 February 2020 09: 39
      You know, there seems to be a sound grain in your conclusion, but given the Old Man’s abilities in economic matters, I think not the president, but the prime minister.
      1. +1
        3 February 2020 10: 34
        The fact is that the prime minister is a subordinate figure, temporary and does not have full power. The same Rotenberg whispers to the same Putin that Lukashenka is a radish and, in general, a “bad man” and everything is gone. The fight against the oligarchs will not be for life, but for death, and there is nothing to be wrong. Pure economic restructuring under the existing political system will not save Russia. I am a supporter of nationalization and anyone who refuses to consider the results of privatization is an enemy.
    2. +3
      3 February 2020 09: 45
      But Lukashenko’s attempt to share the marriage bed with the Americans (even if he wants to annoy Putin) disappointed.
      Or do you think that it will be more profitable for the Republic of Belarus to get in touch with the amersky sharks of capitalism than (as you put it) with the "Russian alegarchs"?
      1. -3
        3 February 2020 10: 10
        Fathers flirting with the Americans, it's just an attempt to bring down prices for Russian oil, no more. I say, he is a genius of politics and maneuvering between the West and the East for so many years - this must be able to! Take away our oil and gas, what happens? That's right, Ukraine. Only without chernozems and where 60 percent of the territory is unsuitable for life. But Lukashenko is not a simpleton and remembers the fate of both Saddam and Gaddafi, so that flirting will not go into the active phase, I somehow think so.
    3. +2
      3 February 2020 10: 10
      Actually, you need to live within your means, and according to your own. negative You never know who has what, haven’t tried to turn to the Saudis with this thought, they can be unfastened from the bounty of the soul. Nobody pushed you away, in a united state, and you would have your voice and chance over time. And as for give, I know the answer, but not a decent one.
    4. +2
      3 February 2020 10: 35
      At the expense of Russia it was more or less, and I just squeezed out your father’s business at one time, an example of the Baltic and Ochakovo, for example ... tell tales about the business executive and manager to the children
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  16. +1
    3 February 2020 09: 32
    I don’t understand, Lukashenka wants a Russian sales market for his goods, cheap raw materials, and what is he planning to "give away" in return, only his fiery speeches from the high rostrum about brotherly peoples?
    And what does he plan to get from friendship with the Americans? He will come to them with his goods or really expects to replace his needs with energy supplies from the United States. So neither one nor the other is not profitable. ((
    But to watch how he "plays nice" with Pompeo is disgusting.
    1. +2
      3 February 2020 10: 11
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      I don’t understand, Lukashenka wants a Russian sales market for his goods, cheap raw materials, and what is he planning to "give away" in return, only his fiery speeches from the high rostrum about brotherly peoples?

      Of course, because he is the "younger" brother, whom the "elder" must help and demand nothing in return.
      Rather: he is a "younger economic" brother, but as a "political" one, he is equal and independent. Very comfortably.
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      But to watch how he "plays nice" with Pompeo is disgusting.

      Yeah, reminds offended young lady lol
  17. +2
    3 February 2020 09: 56
    Stupid Luka, the Stripes never gave anyone what they promised, only brought grief and ruin. Especially in the current circumstances, when Luke will be in the pose of the beggar. Is it really so hard to understand? fellow request what
  18. -1
    3 February 2020 10: 02
    I was in Belarus. The population (in any case, absolutely all those with whom I spoke there, a rather motley contingent) does not want any such integration with Russia. He imagines the Ukrainian version of Eurointegration ..
    1. +1
      3 February 2020 10: 12
      When he hesitates, it is necessary to be baptized, chur me, a storyteller.
  19. 0
    3 February 2020 11: 18
    It was a pity there were no analysts who could have predicted Lukashenko’s turn in this way before.
  20. +3
    3 February 2020 11: 34
    Quote: Per se.
    not the fact that the same BelAZ would not repeat the fate of ZIL

    Already repeated. Old Man did not go under the Russian oligarchs, now he wants to lie under the Chinese or American or any other. But it seems too late, everything is already pro-l. Old Man wanted to become the queen of the sea, and so that a goldfish would serve him, but the end of this tale is sad.
  21. +2
    3 February 2020 11: 43
    Quote: Per se.
    the economy of Belarus is still alive, there is no such margin of safety for robbery and the collapse of the country, as in Russia,

    Are you sure that she would be alive without free access to Russian markets and resources. And the margin of safety for the sack and collapse of Belarus was Russian, not Belarusian.
  22. 0
    3 February 2020 11: 56
    The Zionist lobby in Russia and the Republic of Belarus will lay down its bones to prevent the unification of the two countries or something rosy .... one occupational "Constitution" of the Russian Federation is worth it ... so everything is going according to the plan of the West ... the form follows ...
  23. -1
    3 February 2020 12: 20
    About Novye flooded. And then yes Omeriki was worried about the current about Ukraine .. now we will worry about Belarus. How are they, poor.
  24. -2
    3 February 2020 15: 09
    War is coming ...
  25. 0
    3 February 2020 19: 41
    Quote: rocket757
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?

    Just see how it goes.
    There, at the top, they keep their hand on the pulse, probably?

    You will laugh, but life was before him, and will be after ....
  26. -2
    3 February 2020 21: 08
    And Pompeo is tall - with Old Man's height. Both of them, Putin, go to the armpits ...
  27. -1
    4 February 2020 12: 47
    It seems that Father is doing everything to make the country torn apart "after Father". Bluffing? Stupid. Trying to sit on two chairs? We have already seen what happened to such people. The lust for power has killed all reasonable? If it was, of course. I think that all together and each separately, in particular. Anxious about the neighbors. hi
  28. +1
    7 February 2020 00: 30
    Has Old Man already bought a plot of land near Rostov? It behaves in such a way that there is a feeling of having a "alternate airfield".
  29. 0
    8 February 2020 19: 45
    Old Man does not think that he could become a neighbor to Yanukovych.