Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?


By his thoughtless actions aimed at further preserving the eternal and undivided rule of Belarus, its president Alexander Lukashenko brings exactly the opposite result: his own withdrawal from power. After the fact that he had almost completely accomplished the destruction by his hands of the real prospects for the creation of the Union State, it was time to think hard about what awaits the country, the independence and sovereignty of which it cares about in words. It is high time for Belarusians to ask questions about whether there is life after the “father” and what it can be.


Accepting Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Minsk and flirting with him (“Look at our“ dictatorship ”), Alexander Grigoryevich proves only one thing: his own inability to learn the latest stories. The fate of every single authoritarian ruler branded by the “progressive world community” with the low honor of dictators who wished to come to an agreement with the “collective West” and above all with Washington was not just sad, but tragic. The times when the United States, grimacing with disgust, endured personalities like Franco and Pinochet, seeing in them reliable balances of "world communist expansion", have long passed. Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar Gaddafi and especially Saddam Hussein could tell a lot about this. But they will not tell for completely understandable and well-known reasons.

In the “new Belarus”, which the West today is determined to build on the ruins of a union that has not yet become something of a real alliance between Moscow and Minsk, nobody needs a “father” in any form or status. It suits Russia, it is the Kremlin that suffers its demarches, time after time trying to exhort and without interfering in internal affairs. You can’t expect anything like this from the White House. In his extremely tight schedule, Mr. Pompeo took the time to meet with the Belarusian “democratic opposition”, who correctly accepted this gesture and immediately perked up. The Secretary of State’s promised early appointment of a plenipotentiary ambassador to Minsk means, first and foremost, that the US diplomatic mission there will open its doors for candidates to “look” for just that chair for which Lukashenko is so frantically clinging.

Given the local specifics and national characteristics, without the "Maidan", perhaps, it will cost. In this land of frightened sovereign husbands who do not have a true idea of ​​the likelihood of the Americans fulfilling their promises, most likely, those who calmly “surrender” Alexander Grigoryevich will find themselves in his closest circle. In the highest echelons of power - that’s for sure. Well, then specially trained employees of the same embassy will slowly remove them from the stage to put on key posts their own, verified, well-fed and trained staff in the USA. Some crumbs will go to the local "zmagars" - so that they more diligently praise the "fall of totalitarianism" and the "coming of the era of democracy." In the end, do not import all the "elders" from across the ocean. Its enough satiated.

The political “field” of Belarus is “unrolled”, “leveled” and “rammed up” by the “father’s” bulldozer no worse than beautiful roads in the same country. Not a single conditionally “anti-Western” or “pro-Russian” force capable of withstanding this scenario today exists in nature, just as they did not exist, by the way, in Ukraine in 2013-2014. Alas, in advance that they were, we did not bother, but now it's too late. If suddenly there are desperate heads who will try to come to their senses to recoup the situation, trying to save the country from the fate of another American colony, then ... Several hundred citizens of Belarus have already passed through the war in the Donbass on the side of Kiev, and as part of the "national battalions". So the appearance of their “Right Sector” (in the ranks of this organization, which was banned in the Russian Federation, in Ukraine there were a whole tactical group of Belarusians) or some “National squads” that could provide reprisals against the “quilted jackets” is quite real. Unless, of course, those will be in demand and acceptable to Western owners.

Of course, Moscow and Minsk today have certain agreements in the defense sphere, but if events continue to develop in the same vein as now, or if the change of power takes place in Belarus “from above”, peacefully and without bloodshed, they can be denounced before our country has time to react to what is happening. And then "peacekeeping forces" from neighboring Poland or the Baltic countries will enter the country, and our troops stationed there will be asked for a way out.

Economy of Belarus? Today, it is based, in fact, on two "pillars" - Russian and Chinese. The final hit of Minsk into Washington’s orbit will mean curtailing cooperation in both areas. Pompeo can promise Belarusians “100% oil supply”, investments, development and even “the arrival of American enterprises” as much as they want. Here is just an example of neighboring Ukraine, which at one time was promised even more, perfectly demonstrates how it will actually be. Life after Lukashenko as the head of state and the breakup he created with Russia, of course, will be. The question is which one. The same West can no longer leave the right to traditional "multi-vector".
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  1. Same lech 3 February 2020 07: 07 New
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    It’s interesting that Father’s dancing ... yesterday with Putin by the handle today with Pompeo ... well, just a unique person ... soul guy.
    1. svp67 3 February 2020 07: 18 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      It’s interesting that Father’s dancing ... yesterday with Putin by the handle today with Pompeo ... well, just a unique person ... soul guy.

      There is no money, the prospects are not clear ... I don’t want to go to Rostov, so you’re not dancing like that. Please note that “father’s” is trying to create competition from the “sponsors” in his territory, but how much more he has enough opportunities to keep the situation
      1. Strashila 3 February 2020 07: 56 New
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        "No money, the prospects are not clear," good good , from whom, the "father" or Belarus.
        1. bessmertniy 3 February 2020 08: 41 New
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          Something and a successor is imperceptible in the Belarusian political horizon. When the Old Man has to leave, it will be guaranteed that there will be a serious struggle for power of the incomprehensible gray cardinals. lol
          1. nils 3 February 2020 08: 54 New
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            Is there life after the "father"?
            THERE IS! Like after Putin.
            1. bessmertniy 3 February 2020 08: 58 New
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              The answer is rhetorical: is it really life if neither Old Man, nor Putin can please us with his jokes anymore. wassat
              1. AnpeL 3 February 2020 09: 43 New
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                Everything in the article is true, but one thing is not clear how to convey this to the father himself. It is unlikely that he reads VO, and if he reads, does he listen ...
                1. Alexga 3 February 2020 10: 48 New
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                  Lukashenko has an IAC, so he has much more information than we can imagine.
          2. kapitan92 3 February 2020 12: 20 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy
            Something and a successor is imperceptible in the Belarusian political horizon.


            How not noticeable! Lukash 2 laughing
        2. Mikhalych 70 3 February 2020 09: 34 New
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          And I think that the old man has prospects to repeat the fate of Ceausescu ...
          1. valton 3 February 2020 15: 44 New
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            If you do not have time to escape to Russia. And even that is not a fact that it will be saved.
      2. Alekseev 3 February 2020 09: 46 New
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        Quote: svp67
        "father" is trying to create competition in its territory from the "sponsors"

        hi
        But this is not serious. He will have to make a choice, at the same time, I think, the fate of the people mentioned in the article, plus the Pakistani Mushsharaf, the former Egyptian president, are well known to him and should suggest reasonable thoughts.
        1. svp67 3 February 2020 09: 49 New
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          hi
          Quote: Alekseev
          But this is not serious.

          As you can see, more than ...
          Quote: Alekseev
          he is well known and should suggest reasonable thoughts.

          I’m afraid that at some period, some “non-replaceable” people begin to think that they are “the smartest” ...
      3. major147 3 February 2020 10: 49 New
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        Quote: svp67
        tries to create competition in its territory from "sponsors"

        This is when this striped sponsored country !? The maximum of their "sons of a female dog"!
    2. Megatron 3 February 2020 09: 21 New
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      Nevertheless, the United States has so far successfully managed to shield our country with a chain of hostile regimes.
      1. Gardamir 3 February 2020 09: 42 New
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        Rather, the Kremlin is working on it.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 February 2020 10: 01 New
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          What exactly the Kremlin should do is understandable. How can he do this?
          1. Nyrobsky 3 February 2020 11: 02 New
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            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            What exactly the Kremlin should do is understandable. How can he do this?

            Gardamir’s Kremlin is to blame only because it’s the Kremlin. That's all to blame. And what he has to do in order to keep the “father” in the sphere of his influence, he does not know. Probably just fill up with money and take any of his whims. Belarusians are scared by Russian oligarchs, but they are urged not to be afraid of Western corporations, although the latter have never been worried about the fate of Aborigines anywhere. Well, Crimea became part of Russia, so what? Worse in the Crimea? No. And Belarus entering the integration would receive additional economic bonuses + the same energy at Russian prices. The problem is that Grygorich wants to get everything at a minimum, but MOST OWNERS, and upon hearing the phrase “chairs in the morning, money in the evening,” I decided to PAY EVIL for the PREVIOUSLY. We have no problems of relations at the household (national) level, we have a problem of one personality of Lukashenko. In an effort to maintain his power, he is ready to sacrifice sovereignty and people. Now that he was released into the autonomous voyage in the Kremlin, he began to actively make critical mistakes that would come to him sideways for the foreseeable future.
            1. neri73-r 3 February 2020 11: 23 New
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              Quote: Nyrobsky
              he began to actively make critical mistakes, which in the foreseeable future will come to him sideways.

              Or to the side, it’s so lucky!
            2. Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 February 2020 11: 46 New
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              Personally, all these evolutions remind me of the behavior of a nonsense woman who, in order for her man to be jealous of her and, as a result, showered with all kinds of offerings, twists her tail in front of another.
              It doesn’t even occur to such a woman that this young man can finally just spit, turn around and leave with his thoughts: "Tired. Why the hell did you give up to me like that?"
            3. Jager 6 February 2020 07: 14 New
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              For almost 30 years, somehow without "critical errors" dispensed. I’m not a fan of Old Man, but plowed fields all over Belarus and trucks with tractors
              in the Russian Federation speak for themselves.
          2. prior 3 February 2020 12: 56 New
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            The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that the inhabitants of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia. So that the Russians are proud that they are Russians, and the rest are envious.
            "How can he do that?"
            Is the question posed in the Kremlin like that?
            Therefore, all run away from Moscow, like the devil from incense.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 February 2020 13: 25 New
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              Who exactly is running away? Belarusians?
              1. prior 3 February 2020 14: 29 New
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                Eastern Europe, the Baltic States, Central Asia, the Caucasus, Ukraine are not enough for you?
                Who, for example, left Washington's allies from NATO?
                I can’t decide for Belarusians, they’ll decide for themselves ...
                1. Nyrobsky 3 February 2020 15: 46 New
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                  Quote: prior
                  The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that the inhabitants of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia. So that the Russians are proud that they are Russians, and the rest are envious.
                  "How can he do that?"
                  Is the question posed in the Kremlin like that?
                  Therefore, all run away from Moscow, like the devil from incense.

                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  Who exactly is running away? Belarusians?

                  Quote: prior
                  Eastern Europe, the Baltic States, Central Asia, the Caucasus, Ukraine are not enough for you?
                  Vlad, you do not correctly interpret the events. After the collapse of the USSR, everyone was broken not just from Russia, but everyone, broke into the arms of the West. If you haven’t forgotten, for some time Russia took an active part in this cross-country and in some places was the leader until it reached debt bondage from the IMF and the 1998 default. Only after realizing that nobody in the West wants to see her on equal terms, Russia slowed down its run, which cannot be said about the countries that you have listed. If Russia, realizing the realities and evaluating the remaining potential, military and economic (albeit raw) that allowed itself to take off the financial noose, decided to take the path of restoring its sovereignty, then these countries continued to engage in political prostitution, because in their case, they did not there remained no drivers for economic growth and survival, except for one resource - to sell Russophobia. Even if, after some time, all Russians start eating from gold plates, transporting manure to Infinity and going to silver pots at night, these countries will not be allowed to return to the sphere of influence of Russia, since these are Western sheep and they cut their wool from them. Peaceful return is not possible until the “hegemon” really gets over the ears, which if it happens, then very soon. Belarus and Russia at the level of the people are not antagonists in general even once and the peoples have no problems in relations. The problem rests on one person Lukashenko and his inner circle, who are ready to sacrifice the sovereignty of the country with only one goal - to maintain the throne and portfolio of power. Having got involved in the game "in the blinds" with mattresses, you can easily not only stumble over the thresholds, you can even break your neck falling into the abyss. All these conversations, such as "but create conditions, and then .." in favor of the underdeveloped. When everything is brought to the level, how do you write that everything will start to rush to Russia, the question arises: will we need freeloaders and parasites who are ready to come and eat three throats from an already prepared Russian pie? It is necessary to build and create together, which was proposed to Grygorich.
                  Quote: prior
                  Who, for example, left Washington's allies from NATO?
                  There is a dollar entry, a weaving exit or a bullet in the forehead. Who will come out? Only forward feet.
            2. Winnie76 3 February 2020 16: 26 New
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              Quote: prior
              The Kremlin must make the lives of its citizens so attractive that residents of all countries and not only post-Soviet countries have an irresistible desire to become a citizen or part of such a country, a new Russia

              For this, it is necessary to stop sponsoring "friendly countries" like Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, left and right. Close the labor market from unskilled migrant workers from there and from other camps. Do not support foreign producers to the detriment of domestic ones (such as Belarusian refineries, MZKT, dairy production and potash fertilizers). Introduce customs duties on imported goods. Tighten the acquisition of Russian citizenship.

              I’m only afraid that “Belarusian and other brothers” will not like such measures
    3. Dmitry_24rus 4 February 2020 23: 47 New
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      Our position is the position of "terpils" always from below.
      Negotiations with Lukashenko are coming soon, as a result there will be crazy dumping on energy resources to “brothers-to-go-to-Belarus”. Lukashenko will come home and file a new lawsuit against Russia .. And we will pay again in silence ...
      We pay all fraternal and non-fraternal coins.
  2. svp67 3 February 2020 07: 15 New
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    Yes there is, there is ... where will she go this life. The question is different, but what kind of life will it be. The same "quiet and graceful" as during "Fatherland" or "painted with fumes of burning tires, torches and processions" of fighters against Muscovites, for the bright ideals of European democracy ""?
    1. Evil543 3 February 2020 07: 43 New
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      Is there life after the dad or not, science is not yet known.
      1. Uncle lee 3 February 2020 07: 59 New
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        Do not drink from a democratic hoof - you will become a kid! crying
        1. Evil543 3 February 2020 08: 20 New
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          And what does it have to do with it? Purely a statement of fact, this is not yet known to science, and the last thing is to trust the forecasts of political scientists and other fortune-tellers on coffee grounds.
          1. Uncle lee 3 February 2020 08: 22 New
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            Quote: Evil543
            and believe the forecasts of political scientists

            I don’t believe them for a long time! hi
          2. major147 3 February 2020 10: 52 New
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            Quote: Evil543
            And what does it have to do with it? Purely a statement of fact, this is not yet known to science, and the last thing is to trust the forecasts of political scientists and other fortune-tellers on coffee grounds.

            And the “old man” is simply making a horror before a meeting with the President of the Russian Federation.
        2. novel66 3 February 2020 08: 29 New
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          oh, Volodya, if only a kid ... and there it could be
          1. Uncle lee 3 February 2020 08: 36 New
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            "Here at death - a beautiful wide grin
            And healthy, strong teeth. "

            Do not scare people!
            Roma hi
            1. novel66 3 February 2020 10: 46 New
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              yes there are such people ... hello hi
              1. Evil543 3 February 2020 10: 56 New
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                A people as a people, different, different, you will not please everyone crying
                1. novel66 3 February 2020 10: 57 New
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                  but to hell with what scare lol
                  1. valton 3 February 2020 15: 53 New
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                    That is why during the war, of all the prisoners, the Germans were most afraid of the Russian prisoners.
    2. Mar.Tirah 3 February 2020 08: 43 New
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      Quote: svp67
      The same "quiet and graceful", as in the "Fatherland" or "painted with smoke from burning tires,

      In a quiet pool there are always devils. I remember how Lukashenko immediately after the collapse of the USSR, traveled around Russia trying to bargain for benefits in supplies, swearing in Belarusians love for Russians. Then it didn’t work out badly. But as they say how much rope you can’t curl up and you won’t spend capitalism. He arranged for his grandchildren, and you can also show independence. As for others, love will work.
  3. Dmitry Potapov 3 February 2020 07: 17 New
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    Something, I doubt that if someone from the Baltic states and Poles asks our military to leave, they will agree. Yes, and even the USA does not have free money, from the word at all, this is not Russia for you
    1. bessmertniy 3 February 2020 08: 44 New
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      The Americans have already buried enough money in Ukraine to repeat this experience with Belarus. Pompeo is a naive American three-legged losharik. fool
      1. DenZ 3 February 2020 09: 20 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        The Americans have already buried enough money in Ukraine to repeat this experience with Belarus.

        They will easily bury as much as they want in Belarus. The vector for the alienation of the border Russian territories from the orbit of Russia's influence will be fulfilled - this is their task and the money ... - they will print new ones, this is not the first time for them.
        1. bessmertniy 3 February 2020 09: 23 New
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          Well, Trump in Ukraine still started saving. Again, how much has been invested in Iraq, but still a “field of miracles”. The American president also permanently does not want to look for others stupid wooden Pinocchio. hi
  4. mikh-korsakov 3 February 2020 07: 37 New
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    Unfortunately, I personally can’t say anything about life in Belarus - just passing through. But a strange thing. I read recently in the media that the Old Man, although he is a strange person, but a strong business executive, he has order, he has cool roads and cleanliness. But it turns out that - and corruption. and poverty and lack of democracy. Although, according to Russian experience, the absence of democracy is more likely to be praised, because in Russia we have a democrat in power, a tyrant, and a democrat in opposition is a shameless pig. This turn reminded me of the Soviet media. And so it seems to me. that dad went dear Yanukovych. He, too, began by whining so that gas would be sold cheaper to him. But frankly, then you have to pay for love, alas, any mother-in-law will be evil for the most kind-hearted son-in-law if he stops bringing money to the family. And our "partners" have already come to life. Polish "democracy fighters" in Western Belarus have long been working. And here hegemon came to check. what yes how. All this is sad.
    1. vvvjak 3 February 2020 08: 52 New
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      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Unfortunately, I personally can’t say anything about life in Belarus - just passing through

      But I can, because I live here on an ongoing basis.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      I read recently in the media that the Old Man, although he is a strange person, but a strong business executive, he has order, he has cool roads and cleanliness.

      Have you read the media of Belarus? For this reason, I can refer only to the famous quote from Professor Preobrazhensky.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      And so it seems to me. that dad went dear Yanukovych.

      He has his own road - personal. On all others (including their people) deeply ....... (not censored).
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      But frankly, you have to pay for love,

      That you are hinting at a woman with reduced social responsibility. If to him, then maybe. If the people of the Republic of Belarus - I strongly disagree
      .
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      And our "partners" have already come to life.

      Already long revived. And in the Russian Federation they are still “sleeping”. The impression is that they do not really need pro-Russian power in Belarus.
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Polish "democracy fighters" in Western Belarus have long been working.

      And enjoy great success, especially among young people.
      1. DenZ 3 February 2020 09: 24 New
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        [quote = vvvjak] [/ quote]
        The sad thing is that you write. Only confirm the worst fears and expectations. Our authorities will again rest on their laurels
      2. eckons 3 February 2020 11: 24 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        And in the Russian Federation they are still “sleeping”. The impression is that they do not really need pro-Russian power in Belarus.

        You just keep in mind that the Old Man is ready to close his eyes to Polish and other Zmagar organizations, and even supports them as opposed to Russian influence. Like, you see the people for independence, but I would have organized a united state so long ago. Therefore, it is not in the Kremlin that they are not interested in pro-Russian power in Belarus, but the Old Man is afraid of losing this power. And he is definitely not pro-Russian, he is Probatkovsky.
    2. Megatron 3 February 2020 09: 23 New
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      All this "strong economy" - rests solely on the kindness of Russia.
      And it will run to us anyway, if that, and of course he will also be accepted as a "multi-vector" yanuk.
      1. vvvjak 3 February 2020 10: 01 New
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        Quote: Megatron
        And he will run to us anyway

        Not a fact, slipped infa about Saudi Arabia (the type of OBS).
        Quote: Megatron
        and of course he will also be accepted as a "multi-vector" Yanuk.

        Of course they will. Especially if the "kilometer" of money will bring along (like a yanuca), but he needs to take into account the fact that "milking" will start not weak.
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          And even if Islam accepts.
    3. Said Petrovich 3 February 2020 12: 25 New
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      "But frankly, then you have to pay for love, alas, any mother-in-law will be evil for the most kind-hearted son-in-law if he stops bringing money to the family."
      Wow, but I was stupid to think that only a certain category of citizens pay for love. A mother-in-law "will be evil" when he brings money to a neighbor.
  5. ochakow703 3 February 2020 07: 58 New
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    Nothing good is foreseen. Events can begin to develop so rapidly that we don’t have time to run away with popcorn either. A little more and father will not be allowed to play back. And forward, these are tires, pans, horses and ... blood. Sad, however.
    1. nerd.su 3 February 2020 08: 57 New
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      Quote: ochakow703
      A little more and father will not be allowed to play back. And forward, these are tires, pans, horses and ... blood

      Well, who did not allow Yanukovych to play? The lack of eggs. The dad with this is all right so far, despite his age. However, yes, flirting with the West will not bring to good, this is a fact.
      1. DenZ 3 February 2020 09: 29 New
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        The dad with this is all right so far, despite his age.

        Judging by flirting with the West, it’s not all right, and age is more likely to be of some help. Another thing is flirting, and in general this place will be lost. And then who will take it into account as well as Yanukovych? Such advances are not worked out by stupid analysts and jumping from them just like that without losing their image in the face of the West will certainly not work for Old Man, unless of course he is a political suicide (he wanted yours and ours, parity, so to speak)
        1. nerd.su 3 February 2020 10: 28 New
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          Quote: DenZ
          Judging by flirting with the West, it’s not all right, and age is more likely to be of some help here.

          And what is your statement based on? Initial facts and conclusions?

          Quote: DenZ
          Such advances are not worked out by stupid analysts.

          That is, in the West there are analysts, but in Belarus they are not? North Korea won for more than half a century playing on the contradictions between Moscow, Beijing and Washington, and nothing, Maidan is not expected.
          Quote: DenZ
          jumping from them just like that without losing the image in the face of the West, the Old Man will definitely fail, unless of course he is a political suicide

          Did you understand what you said? I didn’t understand anything, but I know for sure the image, this is a phenomenon invented so that the boys, called image makers, could rake money with a shovel from the air. And, in fact, he is no longer suitable for anything.

          Quote: DenZ
          And then who will take him into account in general, like Yanukovych?

          Yanukovych, to continue to take into account, had to give a clear order.
      2. ochakow703 3 February 2020 11: 36 New
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        Like who? Those who today propose to 100% solve the problem of oil supplies. Free only in a mousetrap.
  6. Sergey39 3 February 2020 08: 03 New
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    "The economy of Belarus? Today, it is based, in fact, on two" pillars "- Russian and Chinese."
    It is pointless to hope for China in this situation. After a recent agreement with the United States, they will not help.
  7. Yehudi Menuhin 3 February 2020 08: 04 New
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    The economy of Belarus in its current state needs an annual infusion (through loans, cheap oil, gas, etc.) of $ 8-10 billion. If father is gone tomorrow, the need for this money will not go anywhere. Of course, you can live without this money. But, as you might guess, the quality of life will deteriorate. That's the whole layout.
  8. Per se. 3 February 2020 08: 10 New
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    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?
    One can ask with the same success, but is there life after Putin? ... The problem is not in Belarus, the problem is in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs. Excuse me, they pissed off Ukraine, now Belarus is ready to lose, in which the state sector of the economy is strong, which our Russian "masters of life" cannot put up with. Yes, “father” didn’t lie under our bourgeois, but would lie, not the fact that BelAZ itself would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of “optimized” and bankrupt enterprises of Russia. For me, it would be better if Alexander Grigoryevich was the president of a united and indivisible Russia.
    1. Konstantin Shevchenko 3 February 2020 08: 20 New
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      Your father is the bourgeois of the Middle Ages. Even as a janitor is not needed in the Russian Federation.
    2. Cottodraton 3 February 2020 08: 21 New
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      Again, the Russian Federation is to blame ?!) Oh, God) It reminds you of the nagging of Eastern Europe, which, as they entered NATO, they said it was the Russians' fault, they left us all ...
      Guys! Wake up already, 30 years have passed! You have all been “adults and independents” for a long time! Enough of infantilism! The Russian Federation should primarily feed its regions, not Ukraine, etc.
      1. Per se. 3 February 2020 08: 34 New
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        Quote: Cottodraton
        Again, the Russian Federation is to blame ?!) Oh, God)
        There is no need to engage in verbiage, we are not talking about Russia and the Russian people, but about those who now steers. Well, they changed the "bear" to the "teddy bear", optimism surged? In Belarus, at least something remains of socialism, the economy of Belarus is still alive, Belarus does not have such a margin of safety for robbery and the collapse of the country, as in Russia, and Lukashenko is spinning like a frying pan. Yes, what can I tell you, you have such a job ...
        1. Konstantin Shevchenko 3 February 2020 09: 50 New
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          So if you were spinning around an adult you would be a good judge. There is no state in the world that is fed for beautiful eyes except Belarus. The fact that Belarus somehow keeps the full merit of the Russian Federation.
        2. Cottodraton 4 February 2020 10: 20 New
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          This economy has remained contrary to the teddy bear. For if they want to and Belarus will have no economy.
          A whiskered puree, for some reason, leads with his tantrums and cunning
    3. nerd.su 3 February 2020 09: 10 New
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      Old Man is good for Belarus. But what will he do as president of Russia? Where will the money go? To Washington or Beijing? Habit is second nature ...
      1. Goscha 3 February 2020 10: 19 New
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        Putin is the president of Russia. Does he ask a lot?
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          So Putin. Lukashenko has a completely different experience.
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        Quote: bot.su
        Old Man is good for Belarus. ...


        obscene! And everything that you imagine will be too restrained and soft.
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          Quote: Gost2012
          obscene! And everything that you imagine will be too restrained and soft.

          Your trianhydrite peroxide of manganese through copper sulfate ...? laughing
    4. Andrey VOV 3 February 2020 10: 31 New
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      Enough of the mantra to howl ro Russian oligarchs ... well, already tired of her god ...
      1. Alexga 3 February 2020 10: 57 New
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        And what? Experience has already been. Unimilk, Slavneft, Uralkali, Gazprom. Read about gas wars. This is about large companies only.
    5. Winnie76 3 February 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: Per se.
      the problem in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs

      I wonder if there is a country's land on the planet without oligarchs. Well, except North Korea and Antarctica. And why are Russian oligarchs more nasty than Belarusian, American or Chinese? And if you shoot all the domestic oligarchs, then Lukashenko lifts up his ports and rushes into the union state
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      Excuse me, they pissed off Ukraine, now Belarus is ready to lose, in which the state sector of the economy is strong

      But when will it reach you. Russia will completely manage without Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan. But their population will come a furry animal. The choice is not rich. Go to Australia, subsistence farming or integrate into an alliance with the Russian Federation.
      Quote: Per se.
      Yes, “father” didn’t lie under our bourgeois, but would lie, not the fact that BelAZ itself would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of “optimized” and bankrupt enterprises of Russia.

      And where, in the absence of a union state, Belaz will sell Belaz?
  9. Paul Siebert 3 February 2020 08: 26 New
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    Somehow abroad I bought the newspaper "USA today".
    It was in the late 90s. At the turn, a map of the former USSR and the former East European social camp was drawn.
    The "democratic" countries were white, "following the path of democracy" - gray, and countries "led by tyrants" - black.
    All European fragments of the former CMEA were whiter than snow.
    Just like the Baltic states.
    The rest of the Union was treacherously gray. Including Russia.
    And only in the place of Belarus proudly flaunted a coal-black spot. There was Lukashenko.
    But father did not allow to plunder the country.
    He did not have home-grown Chubais and Gaidars ...
    Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.
    Belarus did not have gas and oil, but Lukashenko understood that the current rulers of Russia would certainly sell them to him.
    They will sell their own mother - they would pay money ...
    Years passed. But father is getting old. Apparently something happened in the character of the inflexible "dictator."
    Something went wrong.
    Soon elections in Belarus. Syabry will say their word ... stop
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      Quote: Paul Siebert
      Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.

      Not so impoverished due to geographical location and climate, and also because in the USSR most of the resources of the Union budget were concentrated just in the BSSR, USSR, and the Baltic states. On this "golden parachute" they existed, with the difference that in Ukraine the oligarchs were pulling whoever could, under a weak centralized government, and in Belarus Old Man and his team took all the cream. But it seems that now they are no longer enough, that’s the tantrum.
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      2. Paul Siebert 3 February 2020 09: 59 New
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        Not so impoverished due to geographical location and climate, and also because in the USSR most of the resources of the Union budget were concentrated just in the BSSR, USSR, and the Baltic states.

        The fact that "swelled" in Ukraine and the Baltic states was stolen for a "time".
        Apparently - your idols ...
        Now these idols are ready to take control of Belarus. Rejoice!
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          There is nothing to rejoice, if Old Man began to move along the path of Yanukovych, then Western partners will tidy up the good. With the Russian Federation, the burden of subsidies will fall ...
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      But father did not allow to plunder the country.
      He did not have home-grown Chubais and Gaidars ...
      Most Soviet enterprises, collective farms and state farms survived. . The people are not so frankly begging as in Russia, Ukraine and the rest of the former USSR.
      Soon elections in Belarus. Syabry will say their word ... stop


      this is a clinic ..
  10. rocket757 3 February 2020 08: 46 New
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    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?

    Just see how it goes.
    There, at the top, they keep their hand on the pulse, probably?
  11. Lamata 3 February 2020 08: 52 New
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    And where will the old man go then? But China is still far away.
  12. Alsur 3 February 2020 08: 58 New
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    Quote: Per se.
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?
    One can ask with the same success, but is there life after Putin? ... The problem is not in Belarus, the problem is in Russia, more precisely, in Russian capitalism, its oligarchs. Excuse me, they pissed off Ukraine, now Belarus is ready to lose, in which the state sector of the economy is strong, which our Russian "masters of life" cannot put up with. Yes, “father” didn’t lie under our bourgeois, but would lie, not the fact that BelAZ itself would not repeat the fate of ZIL, like many other Belarusian enterprises did not repeat the fate of “optimized” and bankrupt enterprises of Russia. For me, it would be better if Alexander Grigoryevich was the president of a united and indivisible Russia.

    Well, yes, yes, Russia slept through everything, a favorite topic in Ukraine and Belarus. And the fact that these are long independent countries and themselves decide the direction of their development, we, as it were, do not take into account. But here everything is just really, enter the structure of Russia and then it will completely determine the development of new territories, as with Crimea. Or live on your own, but be responsible for your own destiny. And then we are independent, but Russia is to blame for everything.
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    But father cares exclusively about his beloved. He doesn’t give a damn about the Belarusians. If the West guarantees him immunity in exchange for a complete drain of Belarus, he will easily do it. He will grab a "chest with piastres" and will somewhere on the Cote d'Azur "grow sklissy" to the memoir to pee about how he fought with the Russian Federation, pretending to be a dictator. And we will get a second Ukraine.
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    Old Man, if you give him the resources of Russia, it will certainly be no worse than V.V.P. , and maybe it’s better. All his throwing because Belarus does not have oil and gas, and the fact that all these years Belarusians have lived more or less tolerably, is purely a merit of the father. Such a politician and business executive must still be sought in the post-Soviet space. The unification of our republics will end after Lukashenko’s clash with the Russian oligarchs, and the future of both Belarus and Russia depends on the outcome of this struggle. What will happen to us under the oligarchs, I imagine - the slow degradation of the Russian world, poured from above with thick molasses of patriotic speeches, but Old Man, as a possible leader of the union state, I would give a chance. And you ?
    1. Retvizan 8 3 February 2020 09: 39 New
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      You know, there seems to be a sound grain in your conclusion, but given the Old Man’s abilities in economic matters, I think not the president, but the prime minister.
      1. Goscha 3 February 2020 10: 34 New
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        The fact is that the prime minister is a subordinate, temporary figure and does not possess the fullness of power. Rotenberg, on the other hand, whispers to the same Putin that Lukashenko is a radish and, in general, a “bad person” and everything has disappeared. The fight against the oligarchs will not be for life but for death, and there is nothing to be sad of. Purely economic restructuring under the existing political system will not save Russia. I am a supporter of nationalization and anyone who refuses to consider the results of privatization is an enemy.
    2. Retvizan 8 3 February 2020 09: 45 New
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      But Lukashenko’s attempt to share the marriage bed with the Americans (even if he wants to annoy Putin) disappointed.
      Or do you think that contacting the Amer sharks of capitalism for the Republic of Belarus will be more profitable than (as you put it) with the "Russian allegarchs"?
      1. Goscha 3 February 2020 10: 10 New
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        Fathers flirting with the Americans, it's just an attempt to bring down prices for Russian oil, no more. I say, he is a genius of politics and maneuvering between the West and the East for so many years - this must be able to! Take away our oil and gas, what happens? That's right, Ukraine. Only without chernozems and where 60 percent of the territory is unsuitable for life. But Lukashenko is not a simpleton and remembers the fate of both Saddam and Gaddafi, so that flirting will not go into the active phase, I somehow think so.
    3. Ros 56 3 February 2020 10: 10 New
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      Actually, you need to live within your means, and according to your own. negative You never know who has what, haven’t tried to turn to the Saudis with this thought, they can be unfastened from the bounty of the soul. Nobody pushed you away, in a united state, and you would have your voice and chance over time. And as for give, I know the answer, but not a decent one.
    4. Andrey VOV 3 February 2020 10: 35 New
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      At the expense of Russia it was more or less, and I just squeezed out your father’s business at one time, an example of the Baltic and Ochakovo, for example ... tell tales about the business executive and manager to the children
  15. rudolff 3 February 2020 09: 24 New
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    As a regular conflict with Belarus, everyone immediately remembers two chairs and prophesies that Lukashenko will soon leave. But in fact, he sat on his throne, and sits. And then at least 1-2 terms will sit further. He is a master at milking Russia and will achieve his goal now. Maybe not all, but there will definitely be some kind of compensation for the tax maneuver. Well, even if they signed a long-term gas contract with Ukraine ...
  16. Retvizan 8 3 February 2020 09: 32 New
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    I don’t understand, Lukashenko wants the Russian market for his goods, cheap raw materials, and what is he planning to “give away”, only his fiery speeches from high tribunes about fraternal peoples?
    And what does he plan to get from friendship with the Americans? He will come to them with his goods or really expects to replace his needs with energy supplies from the United States. So neither one nor the other is not profitable. ((
    But it’s disgusting to watch how he “kindreds” with Pompeo.
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      I don’t understand, Lukashenko wants the Russian market for his goods, cheap raw materials, and what is he planning to “give away”, only his fiery speeches from high tribunes about fraternal peoples?

      Of course, because he is the "younger" brother, whom the "elder" must help and demand nothing in return.
      Rather: he is a "younger economic" brother, but as a "political" one, he is equal and independent. Very comfortably.
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      But it’s disgusting to watch how he “kindreds” with Pompeo.

      Yeah, reminds offended young lady lol
  17. Ros 56 3 February 2020 09: 56 New
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    Stupid Luka, the Stripes never gave anyone what they promised, only brought grief and ruin. Especially in the current circumstances, when Luke will be in the pose of the beggar. Is it really so hard to understand? fellow request what
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    I was in Belarus. The population (in any case, absolutely all those with whom I spoke there, a rather motley contingent) does not want any such integration with Russia. He imagines the Ukrainian version of Eurointegration ..
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      When he hesitates, it is necessary to be baptized, chur me, a storyteller.
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    It was a pity there were no analysts who could have predicted Lukashenko’s turn in this way before.
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    not the fact that the same BelAZ would not repeat the fate of ZIL

    Already repeated. Old Man did not go under the Russian oligarchs, now he wants to lie under the Chinese or American or any other. But it seems too late, everything is already pro-l. Old Man wanted to become the queen of the sea, and so that a goldfish would serve him, but the end of this tale is sad.
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    the economy of Belarus is still alive, there is no such margin of safety for robbery and the collapse of the country, as in Russia,

    Are you sure that she would be alive without free access to Russian markets and resources. And the margin of safety for the sack and collapse of Belarus was Russian, not Belarusian.
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    The Zionist lobby in Russia and the Republic of Belarus will lay its bones to prevent the unification of the two countries or anything rosy .... one occupation "Constitution" of the Russian Federation is worth something ... so that everything goes according to the plan of the West ... the scenario is independent in one way or another form follows ...
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    About Novye flooded. And then yes Omeriki was worried about the current about Ukraine .. now we will worry about Belarus. How are they, poor.
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    War is coming ...
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    Quote: rocket757
    Belarus: is there life after the “father’s”?

    Just see how it goes.
    There, at the top, they keep their hand on the pulse, probably?

    You will laugh, but life was before him, and will be after ....
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    And Pompeo is tall - with Old Man's height. Both of them, Putin, go to the armpits ...
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    It seems that Father But does everything so that the country is simply torn apart "after Father But." Bluffing? Stupid. Trying to sit on two chairs? We have already seen what has become of such. The thirst for power killed everything reasonable? If it was, of course. I think that all together and each separately, in particular. Anxious for the neighbors. hi
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    And Old Man has already bought a plot near Rostov? It behaves in such a way that there is a feeling of having a “backup airfield”.
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    Old Man does not think that he could become a neighbor to Yanukovych.