How in modern Poland Stalin was made a monster-father-killer


In Poland, the information war against Russia and the whole of Russian / Soviet does not stop stories. The Polish press is especially hated by the figure of Joseph Stalin - a man who, even after defeating Germany, even annexed substantial territories to Poland.


It is Stalin that Poland owes to Silesia and the Baltic coast, taken from Germany.

But now the Polish press is constantly accusing Stalin of all mortal sins. A fantastic story was published by a large Polish publication Rzeczpospolita. It fell literally to the level of the tabloid yellow press.

One Hubert Kozel wrote an impressive opus stating that Joseph Stalin - Dzhugashvili was the illegitimate son of a wealthy resident of Gori, Koba Egnatashvili. Gori’s wrestling champion, Koba Egnatashvili came from a wealthy family of clergy. This version, by the way, has slipped more than once in other media, in historical journalism. And this is not even the point, after all, why delve into the personal lives of long-dead people.


Stalin's mother Ekaterina Geladze

Yekaterina Geladze, Stalin's mother, allegedly gave birth to him from Koba, and the official husband Vissarion Dzhugashvili could only drown his shame in wine. So Vissarion became an alcoholic, once mercilessly beat little Soso and forever left him a hand injury. In the article of Hubert Kozel, Stalin's mother, Yekaterina Geladze, is directly called a prostitute who slept with rich men for money. It was Koba who then provided the young Soso, according to Kozel, with patronage of admission to the seminary.

But further - more. Stalin, as Kozel writes, eventually dealt with both “fathers”. He allegedly organized the murder of Vissarion Dzhugashvili first - according to Kozel, he was personally stabbed by Kamo, and then Koba Egnatashvili - he was beaten to death, also on the orders of Joseph. Why was this done, Kozel does not explain.

The Polish author accuses Joseph Dzhugashvili himself of working for the tsarist secret police. Kamo, whom Kozel does not very politically correct call simply “Armenian,” was supposedly a hit man in the service of Dzhugashvili. Felix Dzerzhinsky allegedly learned about Stalin’s past, and then he suddenly died. References to the murders of Leo Trotsky and Solomon Mikhoels - this is so, "flowers", compared with the accusation of Stalin for patricide.

A logical question arises: why does the Polish press publish such frankly deceitful material? Even Polish readers doubt it. Someone Vladislav Yanovsky, for example, begins his comment with a natural question:

Can the author cite the sources of his story? By the way, Stalin is a historical figure.

Of course, there is no question of any real evidence of the author’s speculation. But Hubert Kozel, obviously, claims to have his own vision of history. So he could declare Stalin and the son of Lucifer, and what prevents?

Now Poland is interested in the maximum demonization of Russia, the Soviet Union and everything connected with them. Such articles are designed for the most illiterate and aggressive Polish citizen, for young people who have already been educated in modern Poland. Without much going into the analysis of the information presented in the article, they believe the word of such authors and are even more strengthened in their hatred of “terrible Russians”.

Despite the comic disgust of such articles for the Russian reader, in Poland they still form a certain segment of public opinion. Just why not tell the Polish press about the real executioners and murderers - citizens of Poland who during the Second World War, in the amount of tens of thousands of people served the Nazi invaders, were overseers in concentration camps, betrayed the Jewish population to be massacred by the Nazis?
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  1. Sergey39 2 February 2020 15: 46 New
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    Polish propaganda in the style of Goebbels. It also comes back to panam.
    1. Svarog 2 February 2020 15: 51 New
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      How in modern Poland Stalin was made a monster-father-killer


      So we have Stalin cannibalist expose .. what is really Poland ..
      1. Range 2 February 2020 16: 15 New
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        Probably in the world there is no longer a personality on whom so many fakes have been penned. The West is sleeping and sees how to tarnish that period of our history. Remember the stinking story concocted about Ivan the Terrible. As soon as this United States loses its influence on the whole world and all this tinsel falls like autumn leaves from trees, it suddenly turns out that 90% of the stories with Stalin are made up by the West. Too much does not stick with the reality of the quick revival of the USSR after such a destructive warrior.
        1. nickname7 7 February 2020 09: 06 New
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          The West is sleeping and sees how to tarnish that segment of our history

          Dig down
          It’s possible even before the pillar, there would be a desire. Crime has such a method. ship when the potential victim is blamed and made guilty of no matter what, with the goal of moral breakdown, then the victim loses the will to resist and can be robbed.
          The accusations of the West are nothing more than a “collision”, and whether we succumb to it depends on us.

          a story concocted about Ivan the Terrible

          Recently it came to light that the writer Akunin moved to Britain and following the logic of the liberals - “that I live in Russia and therefore criticize her”, it was expected that Akunin would begin to criticize the new homeland, but no, he continues to criticize the Russian Federation. In particular, he laid a book about Ivan the Terrible, inventing new terminology and nonsense.
      2. Mavrikiy 2 February 2020 19: 17 New
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        Poles read and discuss - do not respect yourself. request I didn’t read it, but I condemn it! angry
    2. Mar.Tirah 2 February 2020 16: 36 New
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      Quote: Sergey39
      It also comes back to panam.

      The fact of the matter is not. The Poles understood where they could beat in Russia without even expecting an “official protest” in the form of a press conference by Maria Zakharova, because Stalin is not held in high esteem in Russia, and Lenin is a villain. So the Russian Foreign Ministry "will not notice" this stuffing.
    3. To be or not to be 2 February 2020 16: 39 New
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      Learn from the Author: Ilya Polonsky, under the guise of criticism of a foreign spiteful critic, to give out to Gora all unchecked muck about a man .... And Stalin does not need lawyers History and Country of Soviets his lawyer
      1. Terenin 2 February 2020 17: 07 New
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        Quote: To be or not to be
        Ilya Polonsky, under the guise of criticism of a foreign spiteful critic, should give out to Gora all unverified muck about a person

        I agree. Even without this article, we know about “modern” Poland. Why retype word-for-word nonsense of a registered idiot and enemy, so that in the end I would make a small postscript in the style of "I have nothing to do with, it’s them" request
        However, about it
        Just why not tell the Polish press about real executioners and murderers - citizens of Poland who during the Second World War, in the amount of tens of thousands of people served the Nazi invaders, were overseers in concentration camps, betrayed the Jewish population to be massacred by the Nazis?
        need to write and write in detail, more and more ...
      2. Ingenegr 2 February 2020 18: 04 New
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        The son of a shoemaker and laundresses took Russia in 1924 (let’s not go into details, let it be such an account) with a plow, and left after 29 years in 1953 with an atomic bomb and a powerful self-sufficient industry. The "educated" children of the late Soviet elite adopted Russia in 1992 with Buran and Energy, and 29 years later they could not finish the wretched Angara in any way. The list goes on.
        1. depressant 2 February 2020 22: 28 New
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          May I support you? Or am I already shaking hands?
          1. depressant 2 February 2020 22: 29 New
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            Look! Not deleted. crying
    4. nickname7 7 February 2020 08: 43 New
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      Polish propaganda

      The fact is that they have it put on an industrial basis. In Poland, the whole institution "memory institute" was created, not counting other organizations in which specialists, philologists, philosophers and other humanities working teaching.
      Unlike us, they have an ideology Russophobic and anti-Soviet.
      And to compare with the Russian Federation, where ideology is prohibited, no doctrines are created, there are 5 columns of anti-Soviet solzhenists and only scattered individuals, without a philosophical education, like fighting their lies.
      It comes back to panam

      Here it comes to us. The external anti-Soviet, has internal allies - the liberals, and Solzhenitsen are going to study in schools.
  2. Arlen 2 February 2020 15: 55 New
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    A logical question arises: why does the Polish press publish such frankly deceitful material?

    They are afraid of Stalin even dead! That was the Person !!!
    1. cradle 3 February 2020 02: 31 New
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      There was a cult of personality. hi
  3. Lamata 2 February 2020 15: 59 New
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    Again, it is necessary to put specific truth facts under the nose of the pshek. for example, what did Poland get from the USSR after the war, land, math help, and ask the rest - and how do the outers behave?
    1. cradle 3 February 2020 02: 32 New
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      they will say that the propaganda of the Kremlin.
  4. Andrey VOV 2 February 2020 15: 59 New
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    Surname of the author says a lot
  5. tarragon 2 February 2020 16: 08 New
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    They have no documents and facts. They will be engaged in essays. We are waiting for a lot of ugly tales from the Poles.
  6. anjey 2 February 2020 16: 08 New
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    Someone Hubert Cozel
    Further, you can no longer read these opuses of a subject with such a loudly significant surname laughingThe funny thing is, even Moder did not miss this name in the thesis, I had to pervert laughing .
    1. Amateur 2 February 2020 17: 08 New
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      And for me, for a well-known saying about a goat and cabbage, a ban was slapped. The words fool and idiot are automatically deleted. What language to teach us in - mov or Hebrew ancient greek?
      1. anjey 2 February 2020 17: 25 New
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        The juiciest sayings of the Assyrian cuneiform laughing
        1. Amateur 2 February 2020 17: 26 New
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          Assyrian cuneiform

          The monitor is a pity. drinks
      2. sabakina 2 February 2020 20: 38 New
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        Quote: Amateur
        What language to teach us in - mov or
        Victor, there was such a man, Aesop was called ... wink
  7. Same lech 2 February 2020 16: 11 New
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    It is not possible to treat the Polish press as reliable sources of information ... it is, with rare exceptions, Russophobic.
    I read articles of Polish authors in INOSMI and in every one they blaspheme both Russia and the USSR ... therefore, it is impossible to take seriously what the Poles write there in any sense ... where there is no common sense, you should not look for the truth.
  8. parusnik 2 February 2020 16: 21 New
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    This is the Poles from Russian sources take ..
    1. mat-vey 2 February 2020 17: 35 New
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      At the same Zakharova.
  9. fruit_cake 2 February 2020 16: 26 New
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    rotten folk
  10. Gardamir 2 February 2020 16: 32 New
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    In Poland, the information war against Russia and all of Russian / Soviet history does not stop.
    On May 9, the Russian authorities will again support this war against our history.
  11. Fitter65 2 February 2020 16: 40 New
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    A logical question arises: why does the Polish press publish such frankly deceitful material?

    It is evident that they found in one of the abandoned Soviet garrisons a binder of newspapers from the time of perestroika. When all this was written by our newspapers in the late 80s and early 90s, for some reason everyone believed that this was true. About the millions of people shot, and about the tens of millions tortured in the dungeons of the NKVD, and about the hundreds of millions of convicts of the GALAG ... So nothing new came up with a pan ...
  12. Ross xnumx 2 February 2020 16: 50 New
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    How in modern Poland Stalin was made a monster-father-killer

    It is in this situation that the expression:
    “DEAD LION IS ABLE TO KEEP EVEN DONKEY”
    And who else doubts where this European rot comes from? It is necessary to put in the UN all the documents of the Khatyn execution. And to clean this scum once and for all from all relations with our country and state. Let it be better on the map of Europe for us to remain a “white spot” instead of Poland than to listen to such slander and listen to different Koreans from TV screens.
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 February 2020 21: 23 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      It is necessary to put in the UN all the documents of the Khatyn execution.

      And they will be declared fake there. The real results of the investigation can be considered only the results of the German commission.
      P.S. Putin personally laid flowers at the memorial to the victims of Katyn, will he back down and admit he is wrong?
      1. depressant 3 February 2020 00: 45 New
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        Yes ... Reverence towards the villains usually turns in their eyes recognition of your weakness. Interestingly, the Presidential Administration has a full-time psychologist who prompts the right actions or at least corrects decision-making in accordance with the psychology of international scoundrels?
        1. mat-vey 3 February 2020 04: 22 New
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          I wonder if there is anyone at all who sees tomorrow more tomorrow ... although I would go ahead for a month.
  13. Amateur 2 February 2020 16: 59 New
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    Why on this shit? This does not require a refutation or discussion. It only requires a statement: "This is Polish shit."
    And again: "The Pole is not a nationality, this is a diagnosis"
  14. Vladimir Mashkov 2 February 2020 17: 05 New
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    What Polish authorities and mass media are vile and mean liars! I believe this is a good science. NEVER believe the Poles and DO NOT do anything good to them!
  15. ABM
    ABM 2 February 2020 17: 27 New
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    author of the article - "Hubert Kose ... l"!
    harness poles;)
    I can’t even write a surname here
  16. Thrifty 2 February 2020 17: 27 New
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    Surname at the field saying "goat"! lol Moreover, the life goat is both in life and in work! !!
  17. rudolff 2 February 2020 17: 31 New
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    All who come to power try to clean up their biography. And for such individuals, the biography is emasculated to a brilliance. We will never know the whole truth about Stalin. He personally edited his "Brief Biography" of 1947. The fact that all the revolutionaries of that time was not that their skeletons were in the closet, but that everyone had their own cemetery, is beyond doubt. What is Stalin ?! Try to find out any details of the past of Putin or Lukashenko, besides what was officially reported. Everything is either scrubbed or closed.
    1. depressant 3 February 2020 00: 30 New
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      Rudolph, and rightly so. I am very unhappy with Putin and sometimes criticize him harshly. But if I found out about Putin nastiness similar to what the Poles write about Stalin, my self-esteem would have sharply decreased.
  18. K-50 2 February 2020 17: 37 New
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    A logical question arises: why does the Polish press publish such frankly deceitful material?

    The price of "gratitude" from the failed ash of the stoves of crematoria. sad
  19. Lekz 2 February 2020 17: 40 New
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    The wisdom of the people is truly right: do not do good ... These bitches in each city must erect a monument to Stalin and worship him twice a year. It was Stalin who made the new Poland from the Governor General of Germany ... having Silesia and access to the sea. Do not forget their ingratitude.
  20. Tomich3 2 February 2020 17: 49 New
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    Until Putin declassifies the archives about Stalin, all these discussions are pointless.
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 February 2020 21: 24 New
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      Quote: Tomic3
      Until Putin declassifies the archives about Stalin, all these discussions are pointless.

      Does he need it?
  21. Ros 56 2 February 2020 17: 55 New
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    Oh, my God, Poles have gaped their mouths, what a misfortune. You worry a lot about the bark of dogs, that's how you need to treat Poles. I do not incite anything, it was they who put themselves in the position of nonhumans and how can one not repeat the president’s words - bastards, anti-Russian pigs.
  22. Operator 2 February 2020 18: 12 New
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    What is known for sure is the data of a genetic analysis of Stalin’s grandson A.V. Burdonsky, who turned out to be the carrier of the Caucasian haplogroup G2 of the Ossetian subclade.

    Father Joseph Stalin can be established / refuted by conducting a genetic analysis of the descendants of Koba Egnatashvili on the male line.
    1. Operator 2 February 2020 19: 09 New
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      Stalin's great-grandfather Zaza Dzhuga (which in Ossetian means flock, shepherd) came from mountain Ossetians, was a pagan, but after participating in several anti-Russian uprisings he fled to Georgia in the South Ossetian village of Geri, in 1805 he was put in Mechet castle for continuing subversive activities . His son (Stalin's grandfather) Iuane converted to Orthodoxy, began to be called Vano Dzhuga-shvili, settled in the Georgian village of Didi Lilo, where he was engaged in growing grapes. In 1850, Stalin's father, Beso (Ossetian name) or Vissarion (baptismal name), who suffered from alcoholism, killed his relative, for which he was expelled from the village (blood feud did not work in this case), was born in Tiflis and married a Georgian woman / Kartvelke Ekaterina Geladze.

      Three sons were born in the marriage, the first two died in infancy (they had godfather Koba Egnatashvili), the third Joseph survived (he had godfather Mikheil Tikhitatrishvil), nevertheless Koba Egnatashvili, who came from a priest's family, provided patronage to Joseph upon admission addition to the seminary, probably feeling a moral duty for the death of his two godfathers.

      Fearing the death of the third son, his parents took him to the Ossetian village of Geri, where they performed two rituals at once - they sacrificed a lamb on a pagan temple and ordered a service for health in a local Orthodox church. Father beat Joseph when he learned that his son would not continue his craft, but would go to seminary. Joseph injured his hand while studying at the Central School of Art - when crossing the road a horse-drawn cart drove over him.

      Why did Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili / Stalin appear to be Georgian, and not Ossetian (on the male line, as is customary in the Caucasus) - only he knows.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/59b97a1557906aeedfedd460/nad-stalinym-viselo-rodovoe-prokliate-59ba518e256d5c4e8ff883d6
      1. Karen 3 February 2020 17: 35 New
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        Quote: Operator
        Joseph injured his hand while studying at the Central School of Art - when crossing the road a horse-drawn carriage ran into him.

        This horse was scared, not Joseph :)
        In the restructuring they allegedly wrote the words of the court doctor that "he was accepting a dry-armed patient" ...
        1. Operator 3 February 2020 17: 39 New
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          Accident protocol not preserved laughing
  23. Sergey Mikula 2 February 2020 18: 13 New
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    Excuse me, but in more detail, about the tens of thousands of Poles who served the Nazi invaders? Something, I have not heard of this.
    1. chenia 2 February 2020 19: 02 New
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      Quote: Sergey Mikula
      Something, I have not heard of this.


      You will not believe, not tens of thousands, but hundreds.
      Actually ours too.
    2. Alf
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      Quote: Sergey Mikula
      Excuse me, but in more detail, about the tens of thousands of Poles who served the Nazi invaders? Something, I have not heard of this.

      Well, at least look at Vika, and hammer in the Google-Poles in the Wehrmacht and SS.
  24. LeonidL 2 February 2020 18: 36 New
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    "Quasi-historian" he is a goat and is, was a goat and remains a goat. And in general, what is this "discoverer of goatskin horns" and Stalin? These are incomparable figures! Dipping cattle with horns at the giant's sole!
  25. Pavel57 2 February 2020 19: 12 New
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    It's time to boycott Polish goods.
    1. Alf
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      Quote: Pavel57
      It's time to boycott Polish goods.

      Something quite a while ago I did not see them on sale. It would be something to boycott ...
  26. Undecim 2 February 2020 19: 30 New
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    A fantastic story was published by a large Polish publication Rzeczpospolita. It fell literally to the level of the tabloid yellow press.
    One Hubert wrote an impressive opus stating that Joseph Stalin - Dzhugashvili was the illegitimate son of a wealthy resident of Gori, Koba Egnatashvili.

    Someone Hubert his opus did not write, but rewrote, possibly even from the article “Parents and the Stalin Family” on the site “Russian Historical Library” (http://rushist.com/index.php/montefiore-stalin/3030-roditeli-i-semya-stalina), which is a chapter from the book of Simon Jonathan Sebag-Montefiore, a British historian specializing in the history of Russia and the USSR.
    Montefiore’s books “Stalin. Courtyard of the Red Monarch” and “Young Stalin” were translated and published in Russia, the first in 2006, the second in 2014. It is these books that contain all the information that “some ... ozel” published in Poland.
    Only in Russia it was published much earlier.
    1. depressant 3 February 2020 00: 18 New
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      They published, grunting to the beat a song about galoshes.
      Liked "Someone ... ozel" wassat
  27. the finish 2 February 2020 22: 09 New
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    I wonder how would the fate of Camo have he lived before Stalin came to power? Would you repress or be in power?
  28. depressant 3 February 2020 00: 12 New
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    I read the article ... My God!
    It didn’t even occur to people that in addition to the Russians, the Georgians were insulted. Two people. Each of whom considers Stalin to be his own. Once they run into. In the meantime, it’s not very dangerous, they come off, turning their vile essence out. If it was possible to laugh at the arrogance of Polish lords, experiencing a certain sense of reciprocal superiority - well, nevertheless there was no story at all for the panschina, they went to Moscow to earn pretty lyuli, then transformation into miserable slanderers in the style of tolerant perversions accepted in the West Forcing surprise. Grinded, pans, grinded! We can say that they have fallen in the Eurozone to an indecent state, if not cattle.
    In fact, not everything is so harmless. Led by the USA, the Poles pump their people with hatred for us, and us for them. To unleash a local conflict? I don’t know what they’ve got there with their own, but to me personally these guys were, are and will be plane-parallel. Because let them not count on me. I won’t go out on Red Square with a physiognomy crumpled with anger and a placard “Putin! Give a decent missile answer! I demand!” A lot of honor. The caravan of my life is passing by. Just looking around a little, she raised her eyebrows in surprise - what a zoo! I looked around and forgot. And to wipe off spits - to politicians. They sought and achieved.
  29. iouris 3 February 2020 01: 14 New
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    Some Goat writes, and the author retells. So what?
    1. aries2200 3 February 2020 12: 37 New
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      the author also means .........
  30. EvilLion 3 February 2020 08: 15 New
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    Just do not consider pshek people.
  31. aries2200 3 February 2020 12: 37 New
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    they still forgot that Joseph Vissarionovich ..... led Hitler to suicide and Goebbels, that he killed his own children from the beginning of 4 and then committed suicide with his wife ... beware psheki.
  32. Valdaev 6 February 2020 20: 01 New
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    Indeed, why do it? He's just so a killer monster