Big Dream: Ukraine plans to hold elections in the Donbass this fall


Zelensky’s office said they were preparing to hold elections at the same time as all other regions of Ukraine. The authorities plan to agree on this at a meeting in the "Norman format", which will take place three months later.


This was stated by Zelensky’s assistant Andrei Ermak in an interview with the Ukrainian YouTube channel “KRYM - critical thinking”.

By the time of the election, he also expects that the DPR and LPR will give Ukraine control of their border with the Russian Federation. Even Ukraine, according to Ermak, will achieve the withdrawal of all foreign armed groups. Perhaps in Kiev they believe that some foreign states will first enter them there.

Zelensky’s assistant says that under Ukrainian law, elections are not possible if foreign troops are present in the country and the border is not controlled by the state. Given the fact that Ukraine lost control of the border almost six years ago, it is not clear on what basis Zelensky was elected as president.

Ermak is sure that all his plans are feasible and the dream of elections is feasible.

When such statements by Ukrainian politicians sound, for some reason I recall the Soviet cartoon "The Big Dream of a Little Donkey" ...
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  1. Mountain shooter 2 February 2020 11: 01 New
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    They have long been living outside our planet. And on the planet "Ukraine" everything is subject to them ... belay
    1. Finches 2 February 2020 11: 18 New
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      Any statement by Ukrainian officials, even without much understanding of the essence of what has been said, is 100% suited by a phrase that popped up on the Internet about how to control the Universe without attracting orderlies! laughing
      On the other hand, they, representatives of the rag-Zelensky team, are obliged to say so as to remind the electorate - they say we are cool guys, and the boy said (before the election) the boy did! The only thing that overshadows, and this, even the Ukrainian people, see that the Zee team so far only licks its American ass with redoubled activity, but manages to lick Poland and Israel in breaks on vacation, but as for the fighting in the Donbass, so far the terrible bleating that "I am not a sucker!" no other positive movement! laughing
      1. venik 2 February 2020 11: 50 New
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        Quote: Finches
        we are cool boys, and the boy said (before the election) the boy did!

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        "Boy" said .... "boy" "forgot"! Well, or "scored" .....
      2. Range 2 February 2020 11: 54 New
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        Well, the globe (of Ukraine) is in their hands. Whatever the child was amusing ... Only now their games are deadly. Children should not be given matches (wars) in their hands. And this will continue until all the banderiks-castry-leg-heads with a direct gyrus in the head are disposed of. Even a lobotomy will not help them.
        1. Pete mitchell 2 February 2020 12: 04 New
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          Quote: Spectrum
          Whatever the child would entertain ...

          Here it seems to me that the neighbors, and especially former relatives one should not be allowed to exploit the magnanimity of the Russian Federation: they do not understand the good attitude, they will all insinuate to spoof under the instigation of someone else's uncle. Using all the features, they must be constantly dunk to where they crap themselves. Otherwise, they will continue to live on planet 404, in the constellation of the tribals, Visegrad universe.
          1. Range 2 February 2020 12: 07 New
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            Wow! How far they are brought from civilization. Is this probably the Planet of the Ecumenical Garbage Can? drinks
          2. Lelek 2 February 2020 14: 44 New
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            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            Pete Mitchell (Pete Mitchell)

            hi
            You can’t say better, even judging by the behavior of our "ex" in PACE ("Europe" hell with them, they will always crap under our door):
            1. Pete mitchell 3 February 2020 00: 25 New
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              Quote: Lelek
              judging by the behavior of our "former" in PACE

              So after all, they are the crap. Old Europe is quite sane, well, not without stupidity, of course. About 20+ years ago, I spoke with a German general: he openly said that all these newly minted democracies represent not their interests in nat / europe, but like vote like Germany. Witnessed how in nature HQ is formed unanimous position - party congresses rest
          3. orionvitt 2 February 2020 22: 34 New
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            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            Using all the possibilities, they must be constantly dipped to where they themselves crap

            It is useless, because, they are in this substance from the moment of declaration of independence. Moreover, as they say, "the farther into the forest, the thicker the partisans." So, dunk, don’t dunk, they won’t notice it.
            1. Pete mitchell 2 February 2020 23: 17 New
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              Quote: orionvitt
              It is useless because, they have been in this substance since the announcement of the independence ..

              So you need to dunk and those who support the 404th, for the company, for enlightenment
              1. orionvitt 2 February 2020 23: 34 New
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                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                So you need to dunk and those who support the 404th, for the company, for enlightenment

                Unfortunately, in our "progressive" time, the voice of reason is very quiet and penetrates only the healthiest and most vigorous souls. With sick and flabby souls, you need to speak exclusively with the help of the Shoigu department. Maybe this is not entirely mild and politically correct, but humanity has not come up with other methods throughout its history. In addition, opponents of Russia are not shy in this method.
                1. Pete mitchell 3 February 2020 00: 14 New
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                  Quote: orionvitt
                  To my great regret ... Moreover, the opponents of Russia are not shy in this method.

                  I completely agree with you - it means it is centric, not only through the Shoigu department: I sat down to play with cheaters - keep the candelabra at hand. You change the standards - get ready: fell asleep in, say, in Soho, woke up in Lefortovo and the charge of complicity with the proof, and like he came ...
        2. major147 2 February 2020 13: 29 New
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          Quote: Spectrum
          Well, the globe (of Ukraine) is in their hands.

          Is Antarctica marked on their globe? The other day, "these" said that they opened it .... repeat There, by the way, elections can also be held. belay
          1. Range 2 February 2020 13: 35 New
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            Among the penguins? And, yes, they imported from there to the Donbass from the banderlog of fighting penguins. It is unfortunate that the Serbian word "penguin" (American) was added to the filter of forbidden words. In! fellow He came up with a replacement for the forbidden word "Penguin staff."
      3. venik 2 February 2020 11: 57 New
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        Quote: Finches
        "I'm not a sucker!"

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        In my opinion, in this context, “not” is clearly an extra part of speech! laughing
      4. Arlen 2 February 2020 12: 54 New
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        Quote: Finches
        "I'm not a sucker!"

        The effect of such a statement "president" is amazing laughing
        Such a statement from the lips of the president of the country sounds at least silly and shameful.
    2. hydrox 2 February 2020 11: 21 New
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      It’s so comfortable for them to sit in the clouds, but M. Pompeo’s arias to eat: they muddied such a mug that listening on the one hand is ridiculous, and on the other sad: they want to reduce unemployment again with mass industrial production of coffins and boilers ...
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      1. sabakina 2 February 2020 11: 37 New
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        That's right, why the Donbass elections ?! All who need to be appointed from Moscow))
        Hear, maybe it’s not worth it to change the lane? wink
        1. Range 2 February 2020 12: 13 New
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          They judge this by themselves, because they all appoint even small fry in Fashington. From here they have associations ...
      2. Piramidon 2 February 2020 12: 38 New
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        Quote: DRM
        That's right, why the Donbass elections ?! All who need to be appointed from Moscow))

        Vasyatko, this is just your speculation. But the fact that you have in Kiev all the power appointed by the State Department of the Yankees is already known to the whole world.
    4. venik 2 February 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They have long been living outside our planet. And on the planet "Ukraine" everything is subject to them ... belay

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      good Evgeny! Tongue removed !:
    5. Gray brother 2 February 2020 14: 05 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      . And on the planet "Ukraine" everything is subject to them ...

      I will enclose the proof:
  2. Cowbra 2 February 2020 11: 01 New
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    Zelensky’s assistant says that under Ukrainian law, elections are not possible if foreign troops are present in the country

    So President Selyansky was illegitimately elected, as was the Rada, because American troops are officially hanging out at the Yavorovsky training ground, and they are also in Odessa at the Marine base under construction. A nurse! A festive enema for this patient as a gift - earned!
  3. Lord of the Sith 2 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    Lugansk and Donetsk republics will show Banderstat a huge fig with butter and poke like a lousy kitten in their own shit, into the Minsk agreements.

    And then what? They will rub themselves off and talk, nothing more.
    1. bessmertniy 2 February 2020 11: 13 New
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      Donbass chooses those who defend it. hi And not those who kill him. negative
      1. Lord of the Sith 2 February 2020 12: 14 New
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        Exactly. Therefore, our Republics are pro-Russian. Because they helped, defended, and also helped the state build, and this is not an easy task.
      2. Range 2 February 2020 12: 17 New
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        In the Donbass, they are just choosing from the people, and on the planet ukrobanderiks are appointed from the ushlepok with three teeth by the State Department itself as a fascist universal headquarters.
  4. Masha 2 February 2020 11: 03 New
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    Krajina suggests, and the republics have ... yes
    1. sabakina 2 February 2020 11: 42 New
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      Quote: Masha
      Krajina suggests, and the republics have ... yes

      Masha Masha ... I know that you are an angel, but not stoke .... Damn, Masha, would you kindly scratch me behind the left wing?
      1. Masha 2 February 2020 11: 50 New
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        I look too with wings wink !
        Vyacheslav, howdy there! love
        1. sabakina 2 February 2020 11: 55 New
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          Masha. ours to you with love Actually, you need not to look, but to know! Well, nothing, get used to it in a couple of centuries! wink
          1. Masha 2 February 2020 11: 57 New
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            Since when are we at you?
            And thanks of course, that such a life span has determined for me! wink
  5. KAVBER 2 February 2020 11: 08 New
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    I think there will be elections throughout the territory, but only such a country by then will not be
    1. hydrox 2 February 2020 12: 24 New
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      Those. Do you give them lives 7-9 months?
      Maybe, but this summer’s confusion is more likely against the backdrop of the performances of Kharkov or Odessa :: Surkov has been dismissed, and affairs will be expected from Kozak, especially since affairs in Ukraine will have to be completed before the transit of power is ready (within 2021-2022 of the year)
  6. Ros 56 2 February 2020 11: 10 New
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    In the madhouse, they have not yet stated what to believe in everything, and even more so in the Bandera madhouse. Or maybe in the autumn and the madhouse they will end, how to know, how to know.
  7. Pashhenko Nikolay 2 February 2020 11: 13 New
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    As everything is simple and clear with Ermak. I just forgot to add what else we transplant and cut all those who disagree there. But these are little things unworthy of special attention.
  8. Chervonny 2 February 2020 11: 18 New
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    Ukraine plans to hold elections in the Donbass this fall

    Anyone can plan and dream the Kiev authorities. Just instead of dreaming and saying stupid things, it was better for the authorities in Kiev to pay attention to internal economic problems. That is where the real problem is.
  9. Thrifty 2 February 2020 11: 21 New
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    He put something like a trump in front of the u-road of Zelensky, and says, they say, choose a u-road for your wife, wassat that is, the president lol . Here, the uk-fascists want to hold such "elections" in the Donbass! !!
  10. Incvizitor 2 February 2020 11: 29 New
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    The peoples of the DPR and LPR have already made a choice, but for the 404 junts there is no such thing as a people, they only have pieces of land and serfs on them, normal people in the 21st century do not want to live like that, therefore they sent the junta to hell.
  11. Altona 2 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    Well, on what are such statements of Yermak based, it can be assumed that:
    1) In the US, the presidential election is won by Democrat Joe Biden, who was the curator of Ukraine under Obama.
    2) Naturally, after winning the election, he will send a bunch of advisers to Putin with a proposal to surrender the LPR and the DPR.
    3) Ukraine will be accepted into strategic allies and two more boxes of expired rifle cartridges will be sent.
    4) Putin gives Ukraine the DNI and LC. And voila.
    But as you understand, in this equation each line is strongly hypothetical. In addition, the US president will take office only next year.
  12. Mouse 2 February 2020 11: 43 New
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    I want to? will smack ... yes
  13. steelmaker 2 February 2020 11: 48 New
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    Does anyone believe that the Donbass can return to Ukraine? Donbass should be annexed to Russia on the basis of a referendum, or create your own state. It's time to stop these useless conversations. We must create conditions for life! A lot of you in Transnistria agreed? People spread rot! RUSSIAN people !!! They don’t give life !!
  14. rocket757 2 February 2020 11: 49 New
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    . When such statements by Ukrainian politicians sound, for some reason I recall the Soviet cartoon "The Big Dream of the Little Donkey."

    In principle, it seems that only donkeys there are not small, they fed themselves, and besides, their whole team / herd.
    They still run after carrots, they have such karma.
    1. cniza 2 February 2020 12: 32 New
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      Six years already running, how much is it possible? ...
      1. rocket757 2 February 2020 14: 03 New
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        And running in a circle can last, lasts .......
  15. DOT
    DOT 2 February 2020 12: 15 New
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    Zelensky’s office said they were preparing to hold elections at the same time as all other regions of Ukraine.

    Zelensky will personally arrive in Donetsk with his show? laughing

    something will happen again)))
  16. musorg 2 February 2020 12: 18 New
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    And what Donbass plans they did not ask. Ukrainians are not responsible for their words as small children!
  17. Grits 2 February 2020 12: 25 New
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    Well, Pompeo left, but left his delicious cookies. Their pans gluttoned and they again suffered ...
  18. cniza 2 February 2020 12: 30 New
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    When such statements by Ukrainian politicians sound, for some reason I recall the Soviet cartoon "The Big Dream of a Little Donkey" ...


    Only he looks more like a pig ...
  19. rotmistr60 2 February 2020 12: 31 New
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    hopes that the DPR and LPR will give Ukraine control of their border with the Russian Federation
    The fact that Zelensky’s team is not friends with his head as well as all the previous ones has long been no secret. But do not soar in the clouds. And why not with such agility ask Moscow to move to the Urals? To walk, so to walk.
    1. Mouse 2 February 2020 12: 45 New
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      And why not with such agility ask Moscow to move to the Urals? To walk, so to walk.

      Come on.....
      Kraina, get down! Siberia is walking! wassat
      1. Kuzmitsky 2 February 2020 18: 05 New
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        Well, what? First control of the borders of the DPR and LPR, then the conquest of Siberia by Ermak, then the world "revolution of hydrology." Everything is already planned :)
  20. midshipman 2 February 2020 12: 38 New
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    Donbas must be annexed to Russia. It is necessary to conduct a survey as quickly as possible.
  21. Chaldon48 2 February 2020 12: 55 New
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    As the saying goes: "Hope feeds the young man"
  22. Chaldon48 2 February 2020 12: 55 New
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    As the saying goes: "Hope feeds the young man"
  23. askort154 2 February 2020 13: 06 New
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    Zelensky’s assistant says that under Ukrainian law, elections are not possible, if there are foreign troops in the country, and the border is not controlled by the state.

    Then in Ukraine, too, to hold elections. The border of Ukraine is not controlled, since they consider Donbas their territory.
    And also, on its territory there are foreign military advisers and mercenaries, about which their media boastfully scream.
  24. Prisoner 2 February 2020 13: 10 New
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    What about other dreams? Not yet in NATO, not in the EU?
  25. Filing 2 February 2020 14: 35 New
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    There are people in Ukraine who believed the television "Goloborodko" and not Zelensky. Sobering is already coming. And Zelensky is increasingly moving to Poroshenko’s rhetoric. We saw the result of Poroshenko.
  26. Karaul14 2 February 2020 14: 36 New
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    I would understand these ridicule if only Ukraine had said so, but Putin and Lavrov say the same thing “yes, this is Ukraine’s territory” and these states will not be recognized, although there was even a referendum there, the same as the Crimean one. The question in the sequence is what comes before, the election, or the transfer of the border. The question of the ownership of these territories is not even worth it - this is Ukraine. Or are Putin and Lavrov lying?
    1. Crimean partisan 1974 2 February 2020 16: 13 New
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      The question of the ownership of these territories is not even worth it - this is Ukraine. Or Putin and Lavrov lie? ... to begin with explain to yourself. what territory do Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia belong to ??? if there is no affiliation, then the DPR and LPR are exactly the same republican affiliations for themselves as Kosovo ... is the same as Crimean., but here you are not good. Crimea was an autonomous republic. and the inhabitants of Crimea had the right to settle in times of turmoil, the oblasts did not have such a right, so there is such a chip, I assure you, the DPR and LPR have such a “DO NOT BE FORWARD, DO NOT FORGIVE” - along the way, it says ...
      1. Karaul14 3 February 2020 07: 59 New
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        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia ??? if there is no affiliation, then the DPR and LPR are exactly the same republican affiliations for themselves as Kosovo, .. the same as the Crimean one.,
        You understand that without Russia these entities would not exist, but the fact of the matter is that Russia recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but Russia itself does not recognize LDNR and says that this is the territory of Ukraine. Why laughter from the statements of the Ukrainian side, if Putin says almost the same thing?


        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        and here you are not vkurse. Crimea was an autonomous republic. and the inhabitants of Crimea had the right to settle in times of turmoil, the oblasts did not have such a right, so there is such a chip, I assure you, the DPR and LPR have such a “DO NOT BE FORWARD, DO NOT FORGIVE” - along the way, it says ...
        If, according to the constitution of Ukraine and the ARC itself, it did not have the right to disconnect, just like the region. The people's right to self-determination cannot be applied here - there is already a state of Russia, and this right itself contradicts the same right of the country to sovereignty and inviolability of territories.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 3 February 2020 18: 00 New
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          If, according to the constitution of Ukraine and the ARC itself, it did not have the right to disconnect, just like the region. ....... according to the constitution, the state must have a guarantor --- this is the president. Since February 22, 2012, the guarantor has sunk into oblivion, therefore the guarantor of the constitution has disappeared by itself, as the constitution has lost its significance, now we turn to state education. what is the region and what is the republic, so the republic has its own parliament and the region does not. this is the whole advantage of the republic, for the republic in case of crises there is someone to manage and the region works exclusively from the center, according to this, the DPR and LPR have been swaying for so long, I hope the answer is clear,
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            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            If under the constitution of Ukraine and the ARC itself, it did not have the right to disconnect, just like the region


            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            and here you are not vkurse. Crimea was an autonomous republic. and he had the right to settle in the Crimea during the time of troubles, the oblasts had no such right


            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            22 February 2012 year

            What is this date?

            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            I hope the answer is clear

            I will try to)))
    2. orionvitt 2 February 2020 22: 54 New
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      Quote: Karaul14
      The question of the ownership of these territories is not even worth it - this is Ukraine.

      Think what you want, the facts say otherwise.
      Or are Putin and Lavrov lying?
      Why they lie, they even help Ukraine, as they can, in the person of the Donetsk republics. laughing In the framework of international law.
      1. Karaul14 3 February 2020 08: 01 New
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        Quote: orionvitt
        Think what you want, the facts say otherwise.
        I don’t think what I want, I’ve recently listened to Lavrov and Putin again - they say that LDNR is the territory of Ukraine and according to the Minsk agreements it should return there. Or didn’t I understand something?
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          Quote: Karaul14
          Or did I not understand something?

          Of course they didn’t understand.
          according to the Minsk agreements, she should return there.
          This is precisely what you did not understand. Do you really think that Ukraine will ever fulfill at least one point of the Minsk agreements? LDNR will never return to Ukraine, precisely because of the actions of Ukraine itself. Therefore, Lavrov and Putin can say anything and it will be true. Unrealizable, but true. What's wrong?
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            Quote: orionvitt
            Do you really think that Ukraine will ever fulfill at least one point of the Minsk agreements? LDNR will never return to Ukraine, precisely because of the actions of Ukraine itself
            I’m always looking for someone to benefit from this or that action, now Ukraine benefits from fulfilling the Minsk agreements, because then it regains territory, and LDNR is not profitable, it is beneficial to them in every way to break agreements, because their leadership wants to be part of Russia, where they were told they are Ukraine.
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              I almost choked on tea. Do you really believe what you write?
            2. Crimean partisan 1974 3 February 2020 18: 09 New
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              and LDNR is not profitable, it is profitable for them to tear down agreements in every possible way ... but it’s not worth the nonsense, the DNR and LC have a parliament. that is, the republics that have taken place and not the regions, if the lackeys of the junta of the territory of U can do what the Russian Federation did in the Second Chichenskaya, then everything will be a bunch. that's just no one and nothing to attract to the world in the territory of U, leave your nonsense to your beloved
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                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                but it’s not worth the nonsense; the DPR and LPR already have a parliament. that is, held republics and not regions
                I don’t know, Putin says that this is the territory of Ukraine and does not recognize them as countries.
  27. Vladimir Mashkov 2 February 2020 15: 34 New
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    No, this is the dream of a big donkey, who has already advised so many “good” and “smart” comedic comedians, accidentally brought by the capricious wind of history into the highest chair of Ukraine, that the reasons to doubt the mental abilities of the “skilled adviser” have long disappeared. The degenerate team! laughing
  28. Naval 2 February 2020 15: 55 New
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    Classic looking glass. The country of storytellers and visionaries.
  29. Bear040 2 February 2020 18: 14 New
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    Such Wishlist Bandera are baseless
  30. mikstepanenko 2 February 2020 21: 47 New
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    Even Ukraine, according to Ermak, will achieve the withdrawal of all foreign armed groups.
    How, will they really bring the Poles out? And all the other foreign "instructors"? And from the "Azov" neo-Nazis from around the world where to go? Even the CIA estimated that 18 neo-Nazis passed through the "Azov", their "tolerance" changed something.
  31. orionvitt 2 February 2020 22: 48 New
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    plan at a meeting in the "Norman format", which will be held in three months
    What can they plan if the “schoolboy”, represented by Ukraine, has not completed his homework under the Minsk agreements. Not a single point. There would be a negligent student to carve, but no, it’s impossible, democracy. And the adoptive “parents” of this “student”, seemingly still influential, open their mouths for any reason. So, once again, a negligent schoolboy will be left in the second year. Meanwhile, the war continues.
  32. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 2 February 2020 23: 43 New
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    Yeah, they are planning elections in the territory not controlled by it.
    1. aszzz888 3 February 2020 00: 14 New
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      VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK (Vladimir) Yesterday, 23:43
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      Yeah, they are planning elections in the territory not controlled by it.
      Sick people sick under-state. wink
  33. aszzz888 3 February 2020 00: 13 New
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    When such statements by Ukrainian politicians sound, for some reason I recall the Soviet cartoon “Big Dream little donkey ".
    "painНdream come true " BIG DONKEY!!! laughing
  34. lvov_aleksey 3 February 2020 21: 51 New
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    there are no Russian troops on the DPR and LPR, they already tire