Which regiments did the order bearers serve in?


The Soviet Union (in the public mind - commissars in dusty helmets) was a monopolist in the pop and cinema sphere. It was the Union that taught, fed and raised the “stars”, the so-called Bohemia, on a pedestal, while having a clear political line. As they say, whoever dines with the girl dances her. And, of course, the new idols should have been a model of morality.


How to sculpt the image


Using a variety of tools, the “commissars in dusty helmets” did not allow the bohemians to get drunk, run around juvenile nymphets and swear, at least in public. Indeed, unlike the standard layman, educated people who got acquainted with the bohemian atmosphere knew perfectly well that an artist or an actor, no matter how gifted he may be, in life can be a complete immoral degenerate.

Of course, now this concern for the morality of the bohemian fraternity, and more precisely, for the mental health of the people, for which this creative fraternity should work, in principle, will be described almost as a Mauser, attached to the temple of the next "genius". In reality, this was simply not required. After all, the employer is alone. He began to worship Bacchus, knocked down someone else's wife, made a brawl, and even turned it all on in public - please change jobs, let the sophisticated sleek hands get used to the machine.

Thus the image of omniscient samples of morality and decency was forged on our stage and screen. That is the image, since even then many representatives of the bohemian fraternity, having decent financial resources and connections with the powers that be, surrounded themselves with scarce products, not paying attention to the legality of the ways of its production, gave “left” concerts, dragged posters from "Playboy" and rare icons at the same price.

Which regiments did the order bearers serve in?

For example, the “handshake” Makarevich, according to Peter Podgorodetsky (former keyboardist of “Mashiny Vremya”), didn’t want to share with his tour business partners, he was the most active consumer of alcohol, and at the same time he recorded most of the group’s songs. And up to the 80s, Makarevich was a member of the Komsomol, where, of course, no one drove him and did not keep a revolver at his temple.

The era of "freedom" of the 90s and its consequences


And so the Union collapsed, collapsed bloody, with unrecognized wars that swept across the entire post-Soviet space. The “commissar in the dusty helmet” near the “stars” was gone, but the people remained, and the old views on the “idols” remained. How did part of our “life examples” react to all this? One can recall the cries of Akhedzhakova “the communists will come again” in 1993. You can also recall the words of Okudzhava about how he “enjoyed the sight” of the execution of the Supreme Council.

What can I say? As Kot Matroskin used to say, “we survived, we can say that we found, washed, cleaned it from the trash in the garbage dump, and he paints us with figs”. The main thing is that these speeches were either not taken seriously, or they were listened to, which is worse. How can “such people” lie or distort the truth? We “know” them! They are “honest, talented, kind and conscientious”!

Simply put, the people simply did not have immunity. Actually, like the state authorities, which rejected the "bloody relic of censorship." And this is just bohemia quickly and scented, so the real parade of awarding all sorts of homegrown "geniuses" began. For people whom two or three people knew outside the MKAD, entire iconostases of orders appeared on the chest, and for those who were known by the whole country, just the halo on their heads began to glow.


For example, Vinokuru, noted for the production of the painting "Matilda", was awarded three orders of Merit for the Fatherland, not counting other awards like the Order of Friendship. Pugacheva, in addition to the title "Singer of the Century", was also awarded three orders "For Merit to the Fatherland." At the same time, the “prima donna”, when presenting the second order, “joked”: “This is the third degree, and for the seventieth birthday there will be a fourth. And then the fifth and sixth will go. ” But Maxim Galkin, a great specialist in ecology and problems of the Baltic states, despite his age, also managed to receive the Order of Friendship, the Order of Honor of the Kuzbass, and even the medal “For Faith and Good”.

In short, it’s a long time to list the representatives of bohemia who have collected a couple of tons of orders and medals in their collection. Here and cursed Kirkorov with his Order of Honor and the titles of national artists, and the Basques with the Order of Friendship and "For Merit to the Fatherland", and Laima Vaikule all with the same Order of Friendship. Even Andrei Malakhov, who had turned yellow to the state of Turkmen melon, even in 2006 received the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" "for his great contribution to the development of domestic broadcasting."

Of course, the West, in which our bohemian woman fell in love, can be blamed for many things and there are enough scandals there, but Madonna, who won the Order of Merit for the USA, Madonna, obviously didn’t slide down to the People’s Artist Jimmy Hendrix from the Washington DC. For relations in the West were initially formed capitalist, and we, ignoring the harsh reality, are in a coma of dreams for a social state.


The self-conceit of home-grown bohemia grew by leaps and bounds, displacing everything else: conscience, professionalism, decency, etc., dying in the process of crowding out. Now the “commissar” who was absent nearby did not even formulate a task for creativity, which, devoured by conceit, faded until it shrank to the size of a cherry stone, leaving us only to clasp our hands with an exclamation “where are our actors” or “where are our singers”. True, the old repertoire hackneyed is still selling well, especially among the older generation, nostalgic for the bright Soviet past and their own youth.

As a result, it reached the point of absurdity when the ghost of the Soviet stage was only to show its face on the screen in order to continue to appear in the "creative bohemia" and receive all the bonuses attached to it. Naturally, such an inner brawl on old yeast is barren and empty like a regimental drum. It was in the atmosphere of this void, in which bloated conceit flies, that the next generation of bohemia grew.

The next wave of human emptiness


The new bohemian wave did not initially have such a dope as the “dusty helmet commissar”. That is why they surfaced as "creative personalities" at best, thanks to youthful passions, age-related maximalism and remarkable energy. In the worst case, they penetrated the screen by any other means, trading their own shamelessness and the lowest abomination.

And thanks to the catastrophically dwindling level of education and the very atmosphere of creative emptiness, we still have the same crowd of narcissistic citizens, but only believing that Akhmatova is an Uzbek tea ceremony, and diarrhea is an ancient Greek female name. At the same time, with the same selfish fervor, all this fraternity judges with equal confidence about global warming and the conflict in Ukraine, the state economy and the war in Syria, social problems and the lawmaking process.

And all these are role-playing models of behavior for the next generation, which is in the same danger - to be fruitless and infantile. However, fortunately, the life span of new stars is no longer than the hamster's life cycle. Quickly gorging on momentary glory, the next "star" that is not part of a small post-Soviet brawl, backed up by TV and the inertia of thinking, quickly dissolves in the crowd of the so-called new wave of performers, directors and actors.

The eternal question: what to do?


Of course, the state, if it is reasonable, has always used creative citizens. For example, in order to confirm the authority of Elizabeth Tudor, whose ancestors exterminated the Yorks, the great William Shakespeare in the play “Richard III” portrayed the last York, the main character of the play Richard, an evil hunchback and tyrant, a hated people, whom he certainly was not. Of course, Shakespeare's talent is undeniable. The great ones and the great ones, that are not Vaikule and not the Basques.


In our paradoxical reality, in which the state “let go” of creative bohemia at will, but cannot in any way push it away from the budget trough, continuing to live with the same nostalgic illusions of the past, the creators serve state structures. Just no one said that these structures are Russian.

What to do? To begin with, no one bothers to vote in rubles and, finally, to develop the very immunity to the boisterous bohemian swamp. However, the most correct decision tells us the bohemian. Not so long ago, citizen Makarevich attacked the Ministry of Culture with criticism: they say he dared not allocate funding for the film about the Time Machine group, that is, in fact, about Andryusha himself. Yes, comrades, 30 years of the budget needle for a spoiled bohemia could not lead to other results.

From now on, the state, despised by the bohemian, must not only pay for that “creative” domestic surrogate, which can be enjoyed only on a moonless night, hiding from people under the bed. Now the budget is obliged to pay and the glorification of this very bohemia.

Thus, bohemia itself led us to the solution of the problem. There is no sense in a rotten and creatively empty brawl, you cannot alter the inner emptiness, there is nothing to redo. Therefore, it is much more reasonable to completely curtail ALL funding flows for any of our Bohemian projects, stop distributing millions of dollars of oxygen pillows to private television channels and provide state rooms to singing women. Let's say the words of our Western "friends": send them to the free market!

There is, of course, the risk of skipping worthwhile works, but just as a spoonful of tar spoils a barrel of honey, a spoonful of honey does not make tar smell fragrant. It is time to stop the production of state order-bearers and national actors and artists in a capitalist society in this void, so that you don’t blush for the scandalous "stars". Well, do not go before the eyes of the author of the Nightwish parade and Mylene Farmer, shining with orders of "merit". Although, in terms of creative success and fame, this does not prevent these musicians from covering home-grown performers like a bull sheep.
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  1. Vladimir_2U 5 February 2020 05: 37 New
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    Most "order bearers" of the order with a twist on the back need to issue, but twist harder.
    1. Same lech 5 February 2020 05: 42 New
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      Yes, they make a booth ... but to each his own.
      1. Comrade 5 February 2020 06: 07 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        Yes, they make a booth ... but to each his own

        There are shots in the program “The other day” (I don’t remember a year), where a drunk Yeltsin, leaving a plane, urinates in his pants near the ramp. On the spreading dark spot on one of the legs clearly visible.
        You look and remember the "perestroika" stories about the supposedly "Kremlin elders who have survived from the mind." Be that as it may, they did not jump on the stages drunk and did not conduct orchestras. And most importantly, the Americans did not grovel.
        1. Stas157 5 February 2020 08: 40 New
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          Where are the greats now - Utesov and Bernes, Shulzhenko and Ruslanova?
          What is in their place? Basque with Kirkorov (and the like) jumping on TV?

          And the government approved state-owned “idols” with state awards.
          Stand each other. What power, such and idols.
          1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 07 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Where are the greats now - Utesov and Bernes, Shulzhenko and Ruslanova?

            They are not even remembered and are not shown on TV. This is the people of that time we have records and records of Utesov, Bernes, Shulzhenko, Ruslanovy, Georg Ots. On the screens one pop.
            1. Chervonny 5 February 2020 10: 14 New
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              Quote: Stas157
              Where are the greats now - Utesov and Bernes, Shulzhenko and Ruslanova?

              Quote: tihonmarine
              They are not even remembered and are not shown on TV.

              It’s good that there is Internet where we can enjoy music performed by Great Talents from different times.
              1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 10: 23 New
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                Quote: Red
                It’s good that there is Internet where we can enjoy music performed by Great Talents from different times.

                I agree, I do so. But I would like to see the concert of the great masters on TV, on the big screen, and not Granny Pugachev to the soundtrack and Galkin’s granddaughter grimacing like a monkey on the table.
                1. Vladimir B. 5 February 2020 14: 03 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I would like to see a concert of great masters on TV, on the big screen

                  Nowadays it’s such that it’s not profitable to show serious music and even more so the concerts of great masters. it is profitable for them to show the antics of Baskov and Kirkorov.
                  1. Lexus 5 February 2020 17: 49 New
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                    it is profitable for them to show the antics of Baskov and Kirkorov

                    Victims of the exam need additional infusion of stupid "potions." "Control shot" in the brainless head.
                    1. tihonmarine 6 February 2020 09: 20 New
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                      Quote: lexus
                      Victims of the exam need additional infusion of stupid "potions."

                      You are right, but they are these victims, our children.
                    2. Machito 6 February 2020 18: 34 New
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                      Bucks, the order bearer. Ahaha. Order of the Golden Calf.
                      Of this clergy, perhaps Zadornova can be called a man. And the rest?
                      To understand and to forgive laughing drinks
                  2. Svarog 6 February 2020 20: 37 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir B.
                    Nowadays it’s such that it’s not profitable to show serious music and even more so the concerts of great masters. it is profitable for them to show the antics of Baskov and Kirkorov.

                    Today's "cultural figures" who occupied the stage, creating family clans .. fully reflect what is happening in politics .. where mediocrity has spread nepotism and corruption .. Young people don’t listen to them at all because they cannot give birth to anything good. But really talented people break into the scene is almost impossible.
                2. TANKISTONE 5 February 2020 15: 33 New
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                  People understand, joke https://ok.ru/profile/165501476469/album/851640185461/875441319797
            2. serg.shishkov2015 6 February 2020 07: 48 New
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              You're right! keep these records! True, from your list on vinyl there is only Ots and Shulzhenko, the rest are on other media, but 45 records of 78 rpm are in the collection! specially for them I didn’t throw out the radio, my same age, 49 years old, hefty box!
              1. Mordvin 3 7 February 2020 07: 04 New
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                Quote: serg.shishkov2015
                specially for them I didn’t throw out the radio, my same age, 49 years old, hefty box!

                But it’s interesting that people ate the numbers, the vinyl sounds more lively. I have Arcturus 006, and 50 pieces of records somewhere.
                1. serg.shishkov2015 7 February 2020 08: 07 New
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                  Together with duplicates, I have 932 units on different media — flexible and vinyl records, cassettes, CDs, MP3s, at home mostly — however, in recent years it has been very rare — I listen to vinyl, two players — Record-68-2, about which I wrote and Icarus-003 of 1989, I have been conducting the alphabetical catalog of sound carriers for a long time, several months ago I got 7 issues * Outlook * for 1970 and 1971
                  1. Mordvin 3 7 February 2020 08: 21 New
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                    Quote: serg.shishkov2015
                    Ikar-003

                    303 probably. Oh, I regret that Corvette profiled. That thing was. Under 900 rubles it cost in the USSR. And the figure has long been displeasing to me. Inanimate she is what she is. The guys at first laughed at me when I said that vinyl is better than SD, but now they envy.
                    1. serg.shishkov2015 7 February 2020 08: 53 New
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                      Yes, 303! I listen to the number on the office computer — there is no computer at home, and the network makes it possible to find very rare records, which have never happened on vinyls! but all the records are old! of * modern * -my favorite * Secret *
                    2. Pathos 11 February 2020 14: 15 New
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                      Vinyl is of course more fun, but also the audio of the SD should not be confused with MP 3. Here, in my department, the engineer electrician grandfather lightly muddied for 60 at home with his own hands the tube amp went happy as an elephant, says it's a pity there is no vinyl, he gave it a disc with a recording of 8000 kBit / sec The next day, a man flew wildly yelling at the sound quality of the bomb, he broke one of the shitty speakers. laughing something like request
          2. AAK
            AAK 5 February 2020 09: 34 New
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            Well, as for Ruslanova, I would not be in a hurry to especially magnify her ... But to promote Bohema, it’s enough like under tsarism - the medal of an “honorary citizen”
            1. Stas157 5 February 2020 09: 52 New
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              Valentina Tolkunova - how emotional it was! And just recently. The last of the giants of the bygone Soviet era.
              1. Leshy1975 5 February 2020 11: 56 New
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                Quote: Stas157
                Valentina Tolkunova - how emotional it was! And just recently. The last of the giants of the bygone Soviet era.

                And now the earth is producing true talents. Well, yes, they are promoting Buzovschina, not them. But if you search, you can find. Of those I like:
                Diana Ankudinova

                Dimash Kudaibergen

                Victoria Oganesia

                Natalya Tsarikova

                Well, the exotic from The HU

                Well, yes, of the four solo artists, three have an opera school, so performing pop songs is like seeds for them. But damn, how well they do it! What vocal data! For example, Victoria Oganisyan has a voice of 5 octaves, and most pop singers have only 2 octaves !!!. But the bulk knows Buzova !! Because it is being promoted !!! And what a pity and it is insulting that there are so few performers (and not Buzovschiny) on the air!
                hi
                1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 14: 26 New
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                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  For example, Victoria Hovhannisyan has a voice of 5 octaves

                  Of course, a bear stepped into my ear, and I don’t distinguish where two are, and where five octaves, but I listened to everyone. I liked only Victoria Hovhannisyan, and how you wrote 5 octaves.
                2. rich 5 February 2020 17: 23 New
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                  Generous Russian land talents
                  1. oleg.nhl 6 February 2020 15: 58 New
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                    Here were the songs! Where did it all go? Uh ...
                3. Stas157 5 February 2020 19: 11 New
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                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  And now the earth is producing true talents.

                  Well, there are always talents. And this is where the folk singers are. Not by rank. But for the present. To the spirit of the people, the spirit of the nation in their work to express. There's no such thing.
                  1. Sirocco 6 February 2020 15: 21 New
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                    Quote: Stas157
                    Well, there are always talents.

                    And these talents are by no means Bohemia))))
                    Gypsies in French are called bohémiens - literally “Bohemians”, residents of Bohemia, an area in what is now Czechia, where many Gypsies lived in the Middle Ages; thus, the restless life of the artists was compared to the life of gypsies (in addition, many gypsies themselves were actors, singers and musicians).
                    I think they should be called precisely the Gypsies, and the kirkor pulls at them.
                4. aybolyt678 5 February 2020 21: 38 New
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                  who listened to "10 songs of atomic cities"? sing Soviet songs, so much so that young people really like it !!!
                  1. aybolyt678 6 February 2020 11: 40 New
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                    "10 songs of atomic cities"
                    a feeling that we (they are our ancestors) still built communism, and together we AGAIN!
                5. Lexus 6 February 2020 00: 00 New
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                  All this is good, only Natasha (Tsarikova) is no longer ours. He has been living with his family in Helsinki for a long time. I listened to her other compositions - not always such a voice is in place - the originals are much better request
                  1. Leshy1975 6 February 2020 01: 08 New
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                    Quote: lexus
                    All this is good, only Natasha (Tsarikova) is no longer ours. He has been living with his family in Helsinki for a long time. I listened to her other compositions - not always such a voice is in place - the originals are much better request

                    Well, yes, this cover of her one of the best turned out. But I didn’t share who was ours and who wasn’t. There, Nikolai Rastorguev sang patriotic songs, and if the press didn’t lie, he moved to Germany to live.
                    I wanted to show that there are still singers (singers) whom the majority of the public do not know, but not because they have no talent. Not in demand, for various reasons. With the same Dimash, few can sing a duet or perform with him at a concert. A huge difference in talent will be noticeable to everyone, but who will like it? Plus, many talented performers are unlikely to want to behave on stage as the producers want, this also applies to costumes and movements. They know their worth and what their talent is, they do not need to ride naked across the stage. It was not for nothing that I pointed out that three of the performers I cited showed an opera school. These are people with excellent musical education, who were taught to sing, and not to do something else on stage, instead of singing. But after all, this is already not enough for many viewers, they are unaccustomed, they do not understand. If there are no defiant costumes and movements, dancing, it seems like the concert with the artist is no longer a concert. Here is such a hassle, in my opinion, it turns out. There are talents, but at the present time they are not obtained format. The voice is not the main thing now, the main show. In this series, for comparison and dissonance, Buzov had to stick, here it is the format. But complete lack of talent in singing (I don’t know about the rest).

                    PS But this cover, for my taste, Tsarikova quail chic. And most importantly, when a person sings freely, not false, in a beautiful voice, I want to listen again and again. And this is already, namely art. And not when "the cat is pulled by the tail."
                    Victoria Hovhannisyan has quite a few songs, there are also covers, but she has enough of her own. hi
                    1. Lexus 6 February 2020 01: 28 New
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                      Not in demand, for various reasons

                      1. Their repertoire encourages thoughts, not "animal" dullness.
                      2. Not ready to sing laudatory odes contrary to conscience.
                      3. For them, intimacy is purely personal, not window dressing and "currency."
                      4. Natural sexual preferences, not perverted.

                      Therefore, producers prefer the "pip" with the voices passed through the processing.

                      I agree with the remaining argumentshi
                6. GAF
                  GAF 7 February 2020 18: 55 New
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                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  For example, Victoria Oganisyan has a voice of 5 octaves, and most pop singers have only 2 octaves !!!

                  The piano has 7 octaves! Hovhannisyan, while fulfilling, successfully met the deadline of 2 octaves.
              2. dmmyak40 5 February 2020 21: 50 New
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                At one time, he was at the celebration of the anniversary of the birth of Sholokhov in the village of Veshenskaya. Many artists performed, including the Basque. We met him with crazy cries: the girl with a wild cry “Ko-o-o-lazy!” Especially amused the audience. in silence.
                And then Tolkunov came out to sing ... After the performance there was silence (I didn’t even understand why no one was applauding), and then the audience jumped to their feet and gave out such a flurry of applause, screams and something else! Her songs made such an impression that people expressed their feelings as best they could. Many older ones just cried.
                What is there Basque with Bedrosovich ...
                1. Leshy1975 5 February 2020 23: 38 New
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                  Quote: dmmyak40
                  At one time, he was at the celebration of the anniversary of the birth of Sholokhov in the village of Veshenskaya. Many artists performed, including the Basque. We met him with crazy cries: the girl with a wild cry “Ko-o-o-lazy!” Especially amused the audience. in silence.
                  And then Tolkunov came out to sing ... After the performance there was silence (I didn’t even understand why no one was applauding), and then the audience jumped to their feet and gave out such a flurry of applause, screams and something else! Her songs made such an impression that people expressed their feelings as best they could. Many older ones just cried.
                  What is there Basque with Bedrosovich ...

                  And I still dream of going on an excursion to Veshenskaya. It seems not so far, but everything does not grow together. I hope it succeeds. Already how many times I came past, but mostly at night, either to the Volga or from the Volga. About the performers. Of course, whoever puts their soul into a song, the public feels it. hi
          3. figwam 5 February 2020 10: 12 New
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            Mumbled buggers of show business entered the annals of television.
            1. gurzuf 5 February 2020 14: 47 New
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              A brilliant statement in its simplicity and at the same time truth! hi
            2. onega67 6 February 2020 13: 17 New
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              not in annals, but in anal
          4. Was mammoth 5 February 2020 11: 46 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            And the government approved state-owned “idols” with state awards.
            Stand each other. What power, such and idols.


            It was on VO about the real ones: https://topwar.ru/45390-sovetskie-aktery-uchastniki-velikoy-otechestvennoy-voyny.html
            PS Copying from "IN" gives: "The selected file name is not safe or cannot be downloaded." wink
            1. Lexus 6 February 2020 00: 11 New
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              It was on VO about the real ones: https://topwar.ru/45390-sovetskie-aktery-uchastniki-velikoy-otechestvennoy-voyny.html

              In fact, the list of front-line heroes who subsequently connected their lives with art (movies, vocals, etc.) is huge. And the series of articles will not be enough to mention everyone. Here, I’ll add a little. hi
              1. Was mammoth 6 February 2020 07: 50 New
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                Quote: lexus
                In fact, the list of front-line heroes who subsequently connected their lives with art (movies, vocals, etc.) is huge

                Yes. The list there is not complete. Like the list of current order bearers.
                They were the citizens of the Great Country, the non-present are all “kings”, but “queens”.
          5. g1v2 5 February 2020 15: 35 New
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            In my opinion, the SOVIET bohemia of the 80s was much more vile. As soon as perestroika began, so out of them it went awry. Decent late Soviet representatives of bohemia can be counted on the fingers. But the Akhedzhakovs, Makarevichi, Basilashvili, Rotaru, Kikabidze and other trash were revealed to the full. It turned out that ALL Soviet bohemians hated their country. Just all. And the whole shobla, which Niki is now distributing to each other and other statuettes - mainly from there.
            And by the way, the oligarchs of the 90s didn’t come from the Union or what? What about bros? Recorders and workshops of the 80s. All 90s rot has its roots in the 80s.
            And by the way, it is very pleasing that many of whom we consider to be great Soviet artists did not live to see perestroika. It’s even scary what they could have heard from them.
          6. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 6 February 2020 07: 20 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            And the government approved state awards of modern "idols"


            If it weren’t for this article about these "idols of millions," for example, I most likely would never have remembered them, for these people are absent in my idea of ​​culture and creativity.
        2. Eug
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          Not only didn’t they grovel, but they didn’t allow the country to push around.
        3. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 04 New
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          Quote: Comrade
          There are shots in the program “The other day” (I don’t remember a year), where a drunk Yeltsin, leaving a plane, urinates in his pants near the ramp.

          On Finnish television this was shown more than once, as well as another (I have 3 programs). It's disgusting to watch.
          1. nils 5 February 2020 09: 16 New
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            An interesting paradox. There used to be buffoons, buffoons, hypocrites, and clowns.
            The task of which was to mock, joke, laugh, laugh, amuse, mock what, or who or what, to mock, make fun, fool, fool, play a trick.
            Dahl's dictionary: "... a fool, a mumbler, a joker, a fun man, a mocker, a prankster, a hobbyist, a jester, a buffoon, a lyceum, an actor. A mockery is an amusement, a disgrace. A place of mockery; a theater, a booth."

            Now this is the CULTURAL ELITE, and even (for some) the "conscience of the nation"!
            Arrived!
            1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 14: 34 New
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              Dahl's dictionary: "... a fool, a mumbler, a joker, a fun man, a mocker, a prankster, a hobbyist, a jester, a buffoon, a lyceum, an actor. A mockery is an amusement, a disgrace. A place of mockery; a theater, a booth"

              Well, at the right time, the "booth" was quoted as saying about the mockery.
        4. Sova 5 February 2020 09: 21 New
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          This our shame will remind us of the center of the name of this drunk
          1. Catfish 5 February 2020 14: 01 New
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            What power - such and centers. request
      2. Reptiloid 5 February 2020 06: 20 New
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        It is worth recalling the letter 42. This letter was written to Yeltsin by representatives of that bohemian irtelligenia. Insisted on closing the opposition press. Say this press incites hatred in society. The newspapers DAY, TRUTH, SOVIET RUSSIA and others were closed.
        And now, what does Bohemia excite, what is it trying to excite? Especially on Victory Day, often someone who says some kind of bastard about WWII
        1. Victor N 5 February 2020 08: 02 New
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          What bohemia ?! What a creative intelligentsia ?! SHOW BUSINESS! Businessmen, only. DO NOT confuse show business with culture - this is different. Showmen let themselves earn, but themselves. It is unacceptable to allocate state funds for non-profit.
          1. nils 5 February 2020 09: 14 New
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            Quote: Victor N
            What bohemia ?! What a creative intelligentsia ?!

            Full holders of the Order of Merit to the Fatherland Order - Khazanov, Tabakov, Mikhalkov, M. Zakharov, Tsereteli, Volchek, Broneva, Vishnevskaya, Plisetskaya, Matvienko (ELITE!)

            Besides:
            Chubais Anatoly Borisovich - for his great contribution to the implementation of state policy in the field of nanotechnology and many years of conscientious work - Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" (2010)
            Gorbachev Mikhail Sergeevich - For outstanding services to the Russian state - Order of St. Andrew the First-Called (highest award)
            Berl Lazar - for a significant contribution to the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation - - Order of Merit to the Fatherland (2014) + Order of Peter the Great, I degree (2005)
            Adolf Shaevich for his active work on the spiritual revival of Russia - Order of Merit for the Fatherland (2013) + Order of the Holy Prince Daniel of Moscow, III degree (2008 year).
            Medvedev D.A. - Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" I degree.
            Yeltsin - a grand memorial + fund with billions of deductions from the budget.
            1. max702 5 February 2020 15: 54 New
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              This apparently the same for the relationship gave the correct ..
              In 2017, by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation, Irina Nelson was awarded the medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree
              1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 16: 37 New
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                Irina Nelson was awarded the medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree
                As they say, for the "dangerous tour." They also awarded medals not only to the Soloist of the Reflex, but also to several other show business figures - People's Artist Alexei Goman, the soloist of the Russky group Grigory Semin, the drummer and director of the Zemlyane band Anatoly Shenderov, as well as the executive director of Russky Radio "Elena Kiselyova - wife of the producer of" Earthlings "and" Russians "Vladimir Kiselyov.
                1. dmmyak40 5 February 2020 21: 55 New
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                  And the last Minister of Defense of the USSR and WWII veteran Yazov was given the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, only III degree. Shoigu personally handed ... Shame ...
          2. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 15 New
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            Quote: Victor N
            What bohemia ?! What a creative intelligentsia ?!

            Under the grandfathers of the kings, they were not allowed to travel by public transport (reading Gilyarovsky).
            1. nils 5 February 2020 09: 18 New
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              With the grandfathers of kings, they could not

              An interesting historical fact:
              Pedrillo Pietro Mira was the son of a Neapolitan sculptor. Pedrillo came to Russia as a violinist and singer. The musical Italian was invited to be a jester. Pedrillo managed to become the favorite of Empress Anna Ioannovna and even constantly played cards with her.

              Over time, the essence of violinists and singers does not change.
        2. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 13 New
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          The newspapers DAY, TRUTH, SOVIET RUSSIA and others were closed.

          And what to expect from this Russophobia, judging by this excerpt from the article One can also recall the words of Okudzhava about how he “enjoyed the sight” of the execution of the Supreme Council. Had to meet him once in one company back in the 70s, an unpleasant impression. I think many people remember the words of Lenin about this intelligentsia. For them, orders and rewards may be one ...
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            Okudzhava himself is a front-line soldier, twice wounded, this should not be forgotten either. Although to enjoy some kind of execution is somehow not very ...
      3. antivirus 5 February 2020 08: 56 New
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        but can you dance like that at 65 sixty-five years old?
        do you hurt your knees and the lower back does not hurt yet? or already ..
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          Thanks to his “successes,” my generation will not live to see 65 at all.
      4. Igoresha 5 February 2020 13: 43 New
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        Yeltsin was cool smile
        1. Catfish 5 February 2020 14: 05 New
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          It’s a pity they didn’t pin it on time. repeat
        2. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 14: 41 New
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          Quote: Igoresha
          Yeltsin was cool

          So Adika and Mishanu and Styopa can be called cool.
          1. Igoresha 5 February 2020 15: 50 New
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            yes no, Yeltsin had to manage at such a time and his cute jokes like dancing \ chants \ conducting by the orchestra looked a lot more sincere (because they were spontaneous and sincere) rather than completely diving through amphorae, flying with Siberian Cranes, etc.
            1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 16: 23 New
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              yes no, Yeltsin had to manage at such a time and his cute jokes like dancing \ chants \ conducting by the orchestra looked a lot more sincere (because they were spontaneous and sincere)

              And I liked it better when at the reception at the Finnish, the face fell into the salad, and when the plane landed in Ireland, the Boeing wheel wheeled around, know our guys, it’s cool lad, I don’t argue.
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        Better to listen to this.


      6. lukewarm 6 February 2020 09: 47 New
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        Duck, both characters with the video are complete drunks and have completed their earthly journey. And they were sobsno that soil on which the present, about which the article grew.
    2. Grandfather 5 February 2020 05: 43 New
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      thanks to the author ... I puke.
      1. Same lech 5 February 2020 05: 51 New
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        I puke.

        Well, in the morning you don’t need to say that ... but I just had breakfast. belay
        1. Hunter 2 5 February 2020 06: 08 New
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          There are well-deserved awards! My Spouse (Professional Athlete, Champion) was awarded the Order of Friendship for working with sick children (rehabilitation exercise therapy on the water)! As Parents of Children and Children themselves congratulated her ..... I am very proud of this!
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            Artists distinguished themselves in the collapse of the USSR and in strengthening the new government. Therefore, bucks were dragged to them and boxes for concerts and orders were hung on their chests. negative
          2. Hunter 2 5 February 2020 06: 34 New
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            I'm just wondering ... they put a minus for the fact that:
            1. Do not like physiotherapy exercises on water (for sick Children)?
            2. Don't like My Spouse?
            3. Envy that awarded the Order of Friendship wink
            Explain, I really want to understand.
            Well, or let's throw more Minuses .... like Her and I have this is not the only Reward laughing
            1. LeonidL 5 February 2020 06: 59 New
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              Plus and respect for your spouse, she deserved the order.
            2. Nonna 5 February 2020 07: 14 New
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              Alexei, do not be offended by the minuses. Here is its own mafia. Mostly grouped in groups. Children, by golly)
              1. Hunter 2 5 February 2020 07: 28 New
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                Nonna hi Yes, these figures are completely indifferent to me. Let Envy! wink
                Quote: Nonna
                Alexei, do not be offended by the minuses. Here is its own mafia. Mostly grouped in groups. Children, by golly)
              2. Reptiloid 5 February 2020 08: 12 New
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                Quote: Nonna
                .... Here is its own mafia. Mostly grouped in groups. Children, by golly)

                love What a mess! ... mafia fellow ..... did not notice request
              3. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 30 New
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                Quote: Nonna
                Children, by golly

                These are not children, they are already born that way.
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: Nonna
                  Children, by golly

                  These are not children, they are already born that way.

                  These are comrades from the adjacent or the promised.
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                    Quote: neri73-r
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: Nonna
                    Children, by golly

                    These are not children, they are already born that way.

                    These are comrades from the adjacent or the promised.

                    In hate physical therapy
              4. Catfish 5 February 2020 14: 15 New
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                You are right nonna love . At one time put on the universal flogging of the "Sisters of the Order", but they all stayed on the site and still spread their "flavor". hi
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                  they all stayed on the site and still spread their "flavor"

                  I’m not sure about the “sisters”, but here’s a team of extremely “intelligent” flooders talking in verse (at the same time shamelessly misinterpreting them) and putting pluses for each other - I personally observed here and repeatedly wink yes

                  There is also a team (order) of all-mutters, which is also different, ahem ... intelligence and quick wit laughing

                  Noah's ark, in short: for each creature - for a hara ... or even two request
                  1. Catfish 5 February 2020 14: 29 New
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                    And you, as always, "one warrior in the field"?
                    1. Golovan Jack 5 February 2020 14: 36 New
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                      I do not understand the question. I have fun if you talk about it.
                      1. Catfish 5 February 2020 14: 41 New
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                        God help you, if you like to have fun in proud solitude.
                      2. Lexus 5 February 2020 18: 21 New
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                        Konstantin hi
                        You're not right. He is far from the only one, he is simply a regular “sing-along” (and “sing-along”, part-time) of the “Order of the Sisters” choir. They waved their handkerchief - the "cons" objectionable and the slander / denunciations flew, waved again - they decorated themselves with "pluses" and "stars". And they interact very clearly - remember the village in the evening - one “started”, the rest immediately “connected” - and so on until the morning (more often, for some reason, they “work” at night) ..lol
                      3. Catfish 5 February 2020 19: 05 New
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                        Hi Aleksey hi .
                        Yes, and they all went to the forest, here there are still much more decent people. drinks
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                        Quote: lexus
                        You are not right

                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Hi Aleksey

                        Well, and the team drew wink

                        Quote: lexus
                        He is far from the only one, he is just a regular “singing man”

                        My friend, a characteristic feature of your "order" are ... glitches, oddly enough: what do you think, that "Svarog" seem to be everywhere Golovany yes

                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        here decent people are still much more

                        If you are about whiners - then, yes, there are darkness laughing
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                        Well, and the team drew

                        "Greeks", Mr. Petrov, Rusland and Not bad winked
                        My friend, a characteristic feature of your "order" are

                        If you are about whiners - then, yes, there are darkness

                        "Whiners", as you call them, differ from the opponents-podliz "characteristically" in their approach to ahem ... The former kick, and the latter selflessly tongue
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                        Quote: lexus
                        The former are kicked, and the latter are selflessly

                        Are you trying to be rude? In vain request

                        Quote: lexus
                        sir Petrov ... not enough

                        Here you are, from Petrov:

                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        Agriculture reported about 25 billion dollars in food exports last year.


                        it's still Soviet cows and old grain stocks are selling. After all, any self-respecting patriot knows that they do not produce anything in Russia

                        Learn. Without any rudeness, and right on target ... in you, in particular, Lexus.
                      7. Lexus 5 February 2020 23: 15 New
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                        Are you trying to be rude?

                        Not at all. So far to me. On the contrary, he made a compliment.
                        Learn. Without any rudeness, and right on target ...

                        You read his other comments today. And at the same time their own, before out of habit habit to press the "Complaint" button. The answer will not rustwink
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                        Quote: lexus
                        Where am I to you

                        Do not be shy. By the number of chernukha in the comments and by rudeness - except that “Leshiy” can compete with you. And even that - without special, IMHO, chances.

                        Quote: lexus
                        a compliment made

                        Md laughing

                        Quote: lexus
                        You read his other comments today.

                        Why do I need "others"? On this particular - are there any objections? No. Well, that's nice, now live with it yes
    3. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 16: 26 New
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      Quote: Sea Cat
      spread their "flavor"

      As from a pigsty on our collective farm "Red Drawn".
  • Reptiloid 5 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    Quote: Hunter 2
    .... minus set for the fact that: s wink
    Explain, I really want to understand. .....laughing
    Respect! good Do not bother, do not try to understand, write normal comments and stay with your opinion laughing who wants a conversation --- he will write, and who does not want a conversation --- yes, okay ..... something like that .....
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    1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 16: 28 New
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      Do not pay attention, from moral "freaks" you will not get anywhere.

      Well, at least we know how many of them are lying around.
  • Lamata 5 February 2020 21: 49 New
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    Yes, there are such, merciless, such nonsense, hid in nete and crap, they will not find, they will not clean the munch. Respect to you and your spouse.
  • lukewarm 6 February 2020 09: 55 New
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    Do not be offended by minus people. Mine, by the way, is not, but I will try to explain their logic. Today, the approach to rewards is very lightweight (and they laughed at Brezhnev!). The boy took part in the parade - here is a medal on his chest. About artists - that’s the whole article. That is, there was a devaluation. There is still some respect for military awards, and even that. Chistogan rules in the world and in Russia, and the rest “everything is just like that, except money” © (“Brother-2) Essno, and the awards too. I think the artists don’t give a damn - full rooms are more important for them. Other people like you are rightly proud deserved. At such a time we live, alas. What's next - the coronavirus will show sad
  • tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 28 New
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    Quote: Hunter 2
    My Spouse (Professional Athlete, Champion) was awarded the Order of Friendship for working with sick children (rehabilitation exercise therapy on the water)!

    So she did not run around the stage, but raised sick children! These are people of honor and respect. For her, the best reward, to see healthy children whom she put on her feet.
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      So she did not run around the stage, but raised sick children!

      IMHO, for this it is necessary to give not a vague and faceless order of Friendship of Peoples, but for merits to the Fatherland, for this is a real merit!
  • Alex 2020 5 February 2020 10: 19 New
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    Yes, but unfortunately very few. We do not like the rulers of those who bring real benefits to the country and the motherland. hi
    1. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 10: 39 New
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      Quote: Alex 2020
      We do not like the rulers of those who bring real benefits to the country and the motherland.

      But the horses on the stage with bare bodies hang orders on already dressed bodies.
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    This, of course, is the depreciation of our orders, but, let us be honest with ourselves - Russia, today, is a depreciated Empire in the past - therefore, such orders! The only thing I don’t really like is that about those who even defend such a Russia - and these are the soldiers in Syria today, a local policeman doing a good job, a fireman, who actually gets a penny, but goes to the fire, a rural teacher 6 days a week 12 hours bringing up our future in classes without heating, a doctor who doesn’t pout, honors the Hippocratic oath, a miner does not crawl out of the face .... more often than not they forget, they don’t even remember - but if you spread your legs on the stage , then in the Kremlin itself they’ll almost kiss you right there! And why? Because capitalism! Show must go on! Under Socialism, the man of labor is the hero, under capitalism, the man is a showman, shocking and all kinds of dirt ... This is the essence of this political and economic formation! Meal'n'Real! And under bullets from a tank of friends to pull out or to extract a hundred tons of coal - every durak can, and you go show your ass on the whole TV show - here you need to be truly a hero !!! laughing
    1. LeonidL 5 February 2020 07: 08 New
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      I must say that with a generally positive assessment of both the article and your commentary, orders, medals and titles were given to people of art in the USSR. Another thing is that the orders were different and people, too, mostly. Honestly, for me, my opinion, maybe I'm wrong, but the Red Banner, the Red Star, "For Courage", remodels of the cross are more expensive ... well, I don’t understand! Although in childhood he played with his grandfather “George” and the St. George medal for WWI. ... And the new one looks somehow solid, like those OB orders that were massively handed out on the anniversary of the Victory. They compared them with the real, front-line ones in the family ... the view seems to be the same, but something is more clumsy, easier. But again, after all, they are awarded new ones for Chechnya, for Dagestan, for Syria ... for courage, only now they pour not one metal from me for military feat and for acting in sueen.
      1. Finches 5 February 2020 07: 10 New
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        You can do with diplomacy on stage as well! Indeed, state orders also pay for orders! Previously, the hypocrites were buried outside the gates of the cemetery, but today they elevated them to the rank of celestials!
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          You can do with diplomacy on stage as well! Indeed, state orders also pay for orders! Previously, the hypocrites were buried outside the gates of the cemetery, but today they elevated them to the rank of celestials!

          Stalin (for whose constitution you advocated yesterday) was very fond of Rewarding Actors and Actresses .... and other cultural and art workers. Actress Serova - received the Order of the Badge of Honor in 1935. Well, and the rest - look for yourself ...
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            Quote: Hunter 2
            Stalin (for whose constitution you advocated yesterday) was very fond of Rewarding Actors and Actresses.

            So it was ACTORS and ACTRESSES, and not those rear-wheel drive actors like today. Is Volochkova worthy of the title of Honored Artist of Russia? Or Basque?
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              You again fool
              You really are fool or pretend to be?
              Eisenstein - was rear-wheel drive, which did not stop him from receiving the Order of Lenin, and the Badge of Honor!
              Stanislavsky (the same thing) - received the Order of Lenin and the Red Banner of Labor. Actors and Actresses, look yourself (homosexuals do not interest me) Scat from here - ignoramus!
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                  Quote: for
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                  was rear wheel drive

                  And that they held a candle or had their own equipment.

                  Learning to spell!
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  You again fool
                  You really are fool or pretend to be?
                  ... look yourself (homosexuals do not interest me) Fight from here - ignoramus!

                  Well-known facts, you can search the Internet or go to the library. laughing
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                    Only a participant in the events can argue about this, you were one. Maybe at least there is a photo, video.
          2. Reptiloid 5 February 2020 08: 22 New
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            Well yes! Well yes! Alexei! Stalin could award someone, and expose or push someone, not counting past merits!
            In general, I read that under socialism artists were often subjected. What he said wrong --- for six months.
            And rightly so, there’s nothing to talk garbage without brakes and show your bare ass on the stage.
            Previously, there were commissions at party committees or Regions, or the City Committee for the control of artists
            1. Hunter 2 5 February 2020 08: 26 New
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              I’m not even trying to object. hi I wrote that not all awards are undeserved, gave the example of the Spouse. Minus flew. I kept silent about myself, still Banned laughing
          3. Finches 5 February 2020 08: 52 New
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            I know all this very well! But to compare Soviet actors and actresses, whose talent was an order of magnitude higher than the modern conveyer lyceums, worked exclusively in the state interests, inspiring people to labor and military exploits - that is, if you do not understand, they performed the state function, for which they received well-deserved state awards! What function does Kirkorov, except for propaganda of the LGBT movement, I personally do not understand! And what is the reward for Makarevich? Apparently, for speaking to Ukrainian punishers who gloriously shot the civilian population of Donbass! Please do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs, as they used to say in our army! hi
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              I know all this very well!
              Please do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs, as they used to say in our army! hi

              Do you have State Awards?
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                No. Did not deserve.
          4. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 35 New
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            Well, and the rest - look for yourself ...

            Mark Bernes Order of the Badge of Honor and Order of the Red Star (April 14, 1944) for the film Two Fighters.
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          Indeed, state orders also pay for orders!

          What kind? I have never received .... Actually, a lot of questions are asked "what are they awarded or awarded for," but I think it is more appropriate to ask "for what?". I think that with this action the political elite shows its favor to individual representatives of the creative and wants to enlist their promising support in some unannounced projects. The capitalist would simply offer money; here they decided to do with cheaper means - it was not vanity that worked.
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            Internet to help - you can find the relevant legislative acts and find out that material support is provided: when encouraged by the Government of the Russian Federation - 1 salary; with encouragement by the President of the Russian Federation - 2 salaries; upon rewarding with an honorary title or insignia - 3 salaries; upon presentation of medals and orders - 5 salaries ... This is in general!
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              The Government of the Russian Federation - 1 salary; with encouragement by the President of the Russian Federation - 2 salaries

              Today there are one-time payments at delivery. It exists at different levels of government. In the early 90s they did not pay. With all my regalia I have a "veteran" who will give something when they reach retirement age laughing Although, in principle, all the hardware was a consequence, not the goal of what had to be done. Just something turned out quite not bad ....
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                Payments are one-time and are stretched for periods - but this is a budget consisting of taxes! And I’m not quite pleased to realize that Philip Bedrosovich and Co. have me! laughing
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                  And I’m not quite pleased to realize that Philip Bedrosovich and Co. have me!

                  Can anyone post an award presentation? Interesting to read merit wassat and who signed ...
                2. Reptiloid 6 February 2020 00: 57 New
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                  Then what else? After the awards, it is somehow easier to become a deputy at various levels or to occupy some positions. In my opinion, such deputies are not doing anything useful, or in posts. And the feed is material. Well, ask-demand for a film, for a theater, for something else ----- somehow more status.
                  But still not enough! How to be Tell a personal secret for a million.
                  Quote: Finches
                  Payments are one-time and are stretched for periods - but this is a budget consisting of taxes! And I’m not quite pleased to realize that Philip Bedrosovich and Co. have me! laughing
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            There are payouts. We get! hi
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          and today they raised to the rank of celestials!

          Antics are in fashion today.
          "Do you want to make your country advanced in the sense of raising its statehood - raise the literacy of the population, raise the culture of your country - the rest will follow." I.V. Stalin
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  • Alex Nevs 5 February 2020 09: 04 New
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    We need the order "Professor of the Semi-Colonial Sciences".
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      No, it’s better just “For zeal”, and that’s all, and it’s not important for what. laughing
  • neri73-r 5 February 2020 09: 57 New
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    Most "order bearers" of the order with a twist on the back need to issue, but twist harder.

    And after the delivery of such an order, the Kylo and the wheelbarrow in hand or the Friendship-2 saw.
  • max702 5 February 2020 15: 45 New
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    The eternal question: what to do?
    Here is the answer..
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    After "piercing the hole", the twist in principle is not needed ......
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    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Most "order bearers" of the order with a twist on the back must issue


  • YOUR 7 February 2020 06: 59 New
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    Hmm. We read - Pugacheva was awarded the Orders "For Merit to the Fatherland" 2, 3 and 4 degrees.
    The Statute of the Order: - It is intended to reward citizens for particularly outstanding services related to the strengthening of Russian statehood, the socio-economic development of the country, research activities, the development of culture and art, outstanding sports achievements, strengthening peace, friendship and cooperation between nations, for significant contribution to strengthening the country's defense capabilities.
    You can somehow fit the development of culture. But what exactly did she do, she sang, knocked down the loot. I remember on TV their interview with Kinder surprise. When Pugacheva with fervor on the camera proved that to them artists without black cash, well, no way. And the venerable Kinder agreed with them.
    Now the head of Rosatom, another special.
  • Far B 5 February 2020 05: 44 New
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    Well, in my opinion, the abolition of censorship with
    For people whom two or three people knew outside the MKAD, entire iconostases of orders appeared on the chest, and for those who the whole country knew, just a halo on their heads began to glow.
    not connected in any way. The quality of the material has suffered fundamentally - yes ("People are hitting!"). Bohemia's "brakes" began to fail over and over again - of course. But the "iconostases" they exclusively grew by the efforts of those in power. For some reason, they decided to put the singer and actress into national examples (and rewarding with state awards is not a weak example for the younger generation: if the state notes such people, it means that such people are needed by the state). Well, and constant funding from the state feeder, by itself.
    IMHO, of course, but creative censorship in the country is still needed. In order not to crawl on the screens all sorts of "Doma-2", "Malakhov", meaningless songs in three chords and two rhymes. Nevertheless, the moral state of society is largely shaped precisely by culture.
  • Dimy4 5 February 2020 05: 45 New
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    How tired are all of these poppy faces, imagining themselves bohemian.
    1. Vladimir_2U 5 February 2020 05: 47 New
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      imagining themselves bohemian
      So the word “bohemia” is not at all laudatory. )))
      1. Dimy4 5 February 2020 06: 12 New
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        So the word “bohemia” is not at all laudatory. )))

        And they like the first three letters.
    2. AK1972 5 February 2020 08: 36 New
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      How tired are all these pop-mugs who imagine themselves to be bohemian.

      Not the right word. Tired of the impossibility. When you see an advertisement in which two order-bearing homosexuals fight for the love of a cat, a gag reflex arises and you want to throw out the TV.
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        Thanks for the cons. Now I understand that the site has at least two rear-wheel drive. Please do not stop, I think further.
  • samarin1969 5 February 2020 05: 48 New
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    I have long drawn attention to the "omission" of the value of the Bohemian orders. Usually, fans of "good" figures of "culture" and all sorts of "cool dudes" are attacked. Perhaps among the awarded there are patriots. Still, Vika Tsyganova actively welcomed the Crimea and the Donbass. But why sculpt the order for show business? ... The author in the West is biased. There are also enough "Elton John Sirs."
    ps It would be difficult for ancestors to imagine the veneration of buffoons by the authorities and the "electorate."
    1. Lamata 5 February 2020 09: 13 New
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      Serry is still not an order. Although the Beatles were awarded MBEs, so real veterans sent their orders back.
  • Gardamir 5 February 2020 05: 48 New
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    Oh, a dangerous topic. The question immediately arises of who rewards these. Who gives them money. Who gives them time for the broadcast. And finally, the people's artist of the USSR, this is understandable, and now gentlemen are jerking for the loot why do you need a title?
    1. Ross xnumx 5 February 2020 06: 08 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      The question immediately arises of who rewards these. Who gives them money. Who gives them time for the broadcast.

      Yes, these questions do not arise ... Whoever gives it to him is given out ... Shamelessly glorifying everything and all jesters ... You notice, even during the years of Soviet power workers and collective farmers were awarded orders ... Well, military awards weren’t just hung up (under Stalin and immediately after).
      With this award they designated their clan. It will be easier to weed ...
      Here about them:
      1. Gardamir 5 February 2020 06: 17 New
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        One Herostratus, modernly three, called battle orders badges. So this is not an order.
        For example, if I had become the head of Russia tomorrow, I would also have canceled the Hero of Russia, St. Andrew the First-Called, because they had been awarded to completely slurred people.
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          Become the head of Russia tomorrow would cancel the Hero of Russia, St. Andrew the First-Called because they were awarded completely slurred people

          Do you understand what you said? fool
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            tongue fellow wassat
            And you? For example, despite the fact that our positions are not similar to Olgovich and Ivanov, I give them advantages, because otherwise they are patriots. And you are just a Scandinavian creature.
            1. Golovan Jack 5 February 2020 11: 48 New
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              And you?

              I am. You are about to cancel the award of the Hero of Russia to all who have ever been awarded it. Instead of figuring out who is worthy and who is not.

              This is ... unconstructive, at least. All other words on this subject are only abusive, excuse me request

              Quote: Gardamir
              you are just a scandinavian creature

              Gardamir, your opinion of me is unlikely to ever interest me ... reconcile yes
              1. Gardamir 5 February 2020 13: 08 New
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                I don’t even know if it’s your humor or you really don’t understand. Cancel the Star of the Hero medal, just as the Order of the Red Star does not exist.
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                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Cancel the Star of Hero medal, just as the Order of the Red Star does not exist

                  Hmm ...

                  Quote: Gardamir
                  is it your humor or didn’t you understand

                  No ... you said so request

                  The speech in this case should not be about "canceling the award," but rather about "stopping the award of this award." The status of the same Red Star (as well as the Order of Lenin, and many others) now is “Not awarded”, but not “Canceled” at all.

                  Something like this. More accurately, the word is not a sparrow. wink laughing
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                    Well, we understood each other is a plus.
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          It is necessary to wait. It is impossible for the “head of Russia” to omit ALL of those awarded, including those deservedly awarded. This offends us, too, because we are not talking about little things, but about the symbols of Glory. It is wrong to reward them unworthy, but worthy deserve, some already can not answer the insult.
          1. Gardamir 5 February 2020 09: 40 New
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            I agree. But Russia’s Yeroy Serdyukov and awarded by Andrei the First-Called Gorbachev agree also an insult to real Heroes.
      2. tihonmarine 5 February 2020 09: 46 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        You will notice that even during the years of Soviet power workers and collective farmers were awarded orders ... Well, military awards weren’t hung up just like that (under Stalin and right after).

        He passed Finnish, the Second World War began in Brest, finished near Harbin, commander of a meager howitzer battery. He started the war with two headquarters, finished with two small stars. (Here 1944).
    2. Mordvin 3 7 February 2020 07: 32 New
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      and now gentlemen are jumping for loot why do you need a title?

      For a show off. As Shatunov said, the title of "people's artist" costs 30 thousand bucks. This is in the 90s.
  • Andrey Sukharev 5 February 2020 05: 51 New
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    Hard, but fair!
  • Pessimist22 5 February 2020 05: 57 New
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    Yes, these whores are no longer needed by anyone, but nepotism on TV stably allocates them time in the broadcast network.
    1. Sergej1972 5 February 2020 09: 12 New
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      And why are the halls always full at Baskov and Kirkorov concerts?
      1. Mordvin 3 7 February 2020 07: 35 New
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        And why are the halls always full at Baskov and Kirkorov concerts?

        Everyone wants to look at the rear-wheel drive. laughing But seriously, corporations buy tickets for their concerts, and then they give out to employees.
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          My mother-in-law bought a ticket for a concert of Kirkorov. I was delighted. Especially because the artist gave all the best.
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            My mother-in-law

  • Comrade 5 February 2020 05: 59 New
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    Vinokuru, noted for the production of the painting Matilda, was awarded three orders of Merit for the Fatherland, apart from other awards like the Order of Friendship. Pugacheva, in addition to the title “Singer of the Century”, was also awarded three orders “For Merit to the Fatherland”.

    And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.

    1. Ross xnumx 5 February 2020 06: 14 New
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      Quote: Comrade
      And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.

      And here, after the demonstrative “abandonment of service”, the deliberate “communion” of himself with the department:

      And, the funny thing is that the person who is now representing is Hero of Russia ...
      And it has also become a rule among various oligarchs to establish departmental medals and orders of the type:
      “FOR 10 YEARS OF AN IMMEDIATE SERVICE IN RUSNANO”
      1. Victor N 5 February 2020 08: 29 New
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        Departmental and corporate signs are perceived as an assessment of labor and achievements - there is nothing wrong with that.
    2. bessmertniy 5 February 2020 06: 17 New
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      Yes, it looks like he don’t put on his tunic at all. what
      1. Golovan Jack 5 February 2020 07: 08 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Yes, it looks like he don’t put on his tunic at all. what

        I got a hangover laughing
      2. Avior 5 February 2020 07: 53 New
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        I think so
        Formally, he has the right to three stars on shoulder straps, but it seems that a particular tunic obviously took someone from either to visit the ship, or for some meeting with the sailors
      3. sso-xnumx 5 February 2020 15: 43 New
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        Yes, it looks like he don’t put on his tunic at all.

        Yes, he had a title in the department of "GlavPur" passed, but not GVMU MO .....
      4. Comrade 6 February 2020 02: 05 New
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        Yes, it looks like he don’t put on his tunic at all

        Probably bought somewhere on occasion, or lent.
        His after all not taken into the army due to poor visionand then suddenly the submarine commander. On other photos, he also has the badge "For a long trip".
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      But this is not for a long trip?
    4. Dimy4 5 February 2020 09: 31 New
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      And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.

      He would first learn to move on a submarine without cones on his head, but he kissed the “hammer”.
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      ANB 5 February 2020 12: 42 New
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      This is not a "Submarine Commander" sign. The indicated sign means that the officer is allowed to independently control the ship. Starpoms also wear it.
      But why Rosenbaum put it on is not clear.
      I wonder how he got the colonel at all.
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      And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.


      Looking at this "sea wolf" I remembered a children's song
      From what, boy, year,
      Which steamer
      And on what seas
      Have you been a sailor? (with)
      He didn’t serve a day in the army, but he has the following prize-winning pads: Medal “Veteran of the Armed Forces, USSR”, medal “70 years of the Armed Forces of the USSR”, Badge “Warrior-Internationalist”, Medal “Warrior-Internationalist from the grateful Afghan people”, and the Ukrainian medal “Defender of the Fatherland” (“Zakhisnik Vitchizni”) - the state award of Ukraine, for personal courage and bravery in liberating Ukraine from the Nazi invaders in the Great Patriotic War ??? !!! . Circus resting fool
    7. Shooter22 11 February 2020 14: 39 New
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      And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.
      [/ Quote]

      The gaps on the shoulder straps are red (for the crew), the "parachutist-submariner" of horseradish ... wassat It’s immediately clear that the whole backsight from long trips in shells ... laughing
  • polar fox 5 February 2020 06: 04 New
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    Nightwish-fire ... especially with Tarja Turunen ... and besides this dirt there are good guys, Yura Shevchuk, Lyokha Glyzin ... those whom the regime did not caress, but they went to the guys to the war and did not gundos ...
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      Nightwish-fire ... especially with Tarja Turunen ...

      yes good drinks
      Academic education in the class of opera singing, put on rock processing - and fly away ... winked
  • Nitarius 5 February 2020 06: 04 New
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    all right said!
  • Humpty 5 February 2020 06: 07 New
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    No wonder their predecessors were buried at the fork in the road.
    Quote: Comrade
    And Rosenbaum did not hesitate to fasten the breastplate “Submarine Commander”.

    A wreath of tires to him. Deserved it.
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      Hard. But just vanity, indulgence have.
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        have leniency.

        I have. Rosenbaum is not the most shifted, but with a ladle and borsch in Kiev - on tires, lit up. Of course, he is not primarily known for this episode. Okudzhava, who, too, until '93 was better known not even as a loafer at work, but as a boring songwriter and veteran. Then it appeared, once was enough.
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        have leniency.

        A CONSCIENCE and SELF-RESPECT do not have? For 29 years of service, in addition to the anniversary and length of service, I received "For Distinction in Military Service", and that is because they were handed out to them from stocks. From the principle, he did not hang pads on a tunic.
  • Amur 5 February 2020 06: 11 New
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    The jesters mark kings, the gods climb into the constitution, and all fall into one shit.
    1. Pessimist22 5 February 2020 06: 18 New
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      Exactly, as I read what they want to introduce God into the constitution, I understand that it is not long before the repressions against atheists begin, although the law on feelings already has repressions against others.
  • Nonna 5 February 2020 06: 22 New
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    A direct analogy: What kind of power are the jesters serving it. Previously, these clowns were buried behind the wall of the cemetery. . The orders were hung up to all the bastards, but the liberal regime didn’t give anything to the remarkable playwright and satirist Mikhail Zadornov - he was shake-free and said bluntly - M. Zadornov:
    "Take money from EDRA, and vote and think differently!"
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      Zadornov is not so simple
      Everyone knows about the apartment near Yeltsin, but he was no stranger to power relations before
      The first wife is Velta Yanovna Zadornova (maiden name is Kalnberzin [103]; born July 26, 1948) is a doctor of philological sciences, professor of the department of English linguistics at the philological faculty of Moscow State University, daughter of the former first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Latvia, Jan Eduardovich Kalnberzin (1893-1986), studied in the same class with Zadornov in the elite Riga school number 10, got married in March 1971

      not deprived of attention of the authorities was .....
  • Dimy4 5 February 2020 06: 32 New
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    Awarding such garbage from culture depreciates the reward for people worthy of it.
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      depreciates the reward for people worthy of it.

      Already...
  • Ka-52 5 February 2020 06: 34 New
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    At the same time, with the same selfish fervor, all this fraternity judges with equal confidence about global warming and the conflict in Ukraine, the state economy and the war in Syria, social problems and the lawmaking process.

    oh, as it is rightly said about a significant part of VO subscribers, directly “one to one”. What is not a commentator, then an assistant professor of legal-geopolitical, economic sciences with the rank of general designer of weapons systems of the Academy of the General Staff of the Russian Federation and concurrently president of the committee on "What does the Russian army (as well as the country, people, national economy and industry), and what not necessary". And in his spare time from these works, he was the chief investigator in procedural cases of the "child oligarchs" and "yachts have stolen, how long!" wassat
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      Quote: Ka-52
      What is not a commentator, then an assistant professor of legal-geopolitical, economic sciences ...

      Quote: A & B. Strugatsky, “Weighed down by Evil”
      All of them are surgeons or chiropractors. No one therapist

      The Internet corrupts such request
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        The Internet corrupts such

        The Internet enlightens people like us, exempts from the "zombies" of private oligarchic media. Only one thing for you: even in the eyes, even for the eyes - everything is purple, just to bark at the one whom the owner has indicated.
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          The Internet enlightens people like us, exempts from the "zombies" of private oligarchic media

          Correctly. First read the "media", and then on the Internet - "enlighten." So it turns out from you - "experts on everything in general and about anything specifically." Whiners, damn it, professional. Look disgusting negative

          Quote: ROSS 42
          Only one thing for you: even in the eyes, even in the eyes - everything is purple, just to bark at the one whom the owner indicated

          Past my friend. I am my own boss, I have no others. Yes, and I do not need them yes
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Whiners, damn it, professional. Look disgusting

            You have painted the situation for me so much that I won’t even ask how long it will take to make you personally whine ...
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            I am my own boss, I have no others.

            Is it really a thief? wassat
            Tell me your social status and I will say the name of your host ...
            Here in Russia all the "ownerless" are located here:
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              Quote: ROSS 42
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I am my own boss, I have no others

              Is it really a thief? Tell me your social status and I will say the name of your host ...

              Ahem ... eco brings you ... I’m not a thief, and I’m not shnienn ... (c). I’m a hired slave, but:

              - I am a skilled worker
              “In addition to my current place of work, I have in reserve a couple of places where, ahem, they want me. And my employer is aware of this.

              I get it? wink

              Quote: ROSS 42
              how long will it take to make you moan in person ...

              Tire to force. So far LV + years - normal flight bully

              Quote: ROSS 42
              In Russia, all the "ownerless" are located here

              You have some kind of separate “Russia,” which has very little in common with reality. If at all - something having yes
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                Quote: Golovan Jack
                I get it?

                Ah, so ... wassat
                “I’m neither a thief nor a spy, I’m actually a spirit ...”
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Tire to force. So far LV + years - normal flight

                Should I tell you how the “right” (from the word “edit”) people do this with such Shrews, or do you yourself admit that you exaggerated your “TTX”? repeat
                They proved to me only once how to appreciate the words said, so I do not say anything, for which I can not answer.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                You have some kind of separate “Russia,” which has very little in common with reality.

                Your meager imagination and lack of sense of humor has become boring. I posted a photo of the cemetery only because it is there that people become free from everything - “independent”.
                I `m a pensioner. There is something relaxing in this “survival” process. Somehow - independence from the employer (even if he is aware and has a couple of "spare" jobs). But I cannot consider myself completely independent of everything. And by this, the conversation ends.
                hi
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                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Should I tell you how the “right” (from the word “edit”) people do this with such Shrews, or do you yourself admit that you exaggerated your “TTX”?

                  My friend, your opinion about me is interesting to me to about the same extent as the opinion of Gardamir.

                  If you want - tell ... and also read, sing, and dance request

                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  I do not say anything for which I can not answer

                  Happy for you.

                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Your meager imagination and lack of sense of humor has become boring

                  Well, where can I get to local intellectuals laughing

                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  the conversation is ending

                  Well, that's nice.
    2. Ross xnumx 5 February 2020 07: 21 New
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      oh, rightly said ...

      Your statement claims to be: a candidate, doctoral or a bill on the rights of oligarchs?
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        Your statement claims to be

        Sketch from nature. IMHO is very correct.
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        Your statement claims to be: a candidate, doctoral or a bill on the rights of oligarchs?

        I'm sorry that your comment touched your tender feelings expert "on all matters of being". Why are you so offended right away? laughing
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      oh, as it is correctly said about a significant part of VO subscribers

      You, of course, consider yourself an insignificant part. Plus to the part that lacks elementary literacy, judging by the comment. For example: "What is not a commentator."
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        You, of course, consider yourself an insignificant part.

        I usually seriously try to comment only on issues related to airplanes, flights, aerodynamics. The rest, if I climb, it is very rare.
        Plus to the part that lacks elementary literacy, judging by the comment. For example: "What is not a commentator."

        Oh, excuse me, are you probably my school teacher in Russian language and literature Maria Ivanovna? I did not know that you now strive in the field of literacy control on the Internet repeat wassat correct, Marie Ivan, do not put in two laughing
  • Van 16 5 February 2020 06: 42 New
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    Pops, she is pop. What Basque, that, do not be remembered by night, Kirkorov. What a militant vulgarity. It turns out also order-bearing.
    Recently, I like young, and not so, bands that play folk rock, for example, Mill or Wind of Water. Subjective opinion, any objections are accepted.
  • Nikolai Kotsofana 5 February 2020 06: 43 New
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    Most of all merits to Russia over the past 29 years, according to authorities, are among singers, actors, and directors. Of the 52 full holders of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 21 are theater, cinema, and stage figures. Doctors - 1, military - 1. And the highest award of Russia with the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called of 20 people 9 - writers, poets, theater and cinema. Military - 1 (Shoigu).
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      Quote: Nikolai Kotsofana
      Most of all merits to Russia over the past 29 years, according to authorities, are among singers, actors, and directors.

      No wonder. We have gathered at the top "nuggets" of the vocal, colloquial genre and actors of the tragedy-comedy series. As they begin to “sing”, so 146% of listeners in ecstasy fight ...
      And how does it say something
      Like a little river babbling ...

      And at the “meetings” great
      Acts as if pava ...
      One thing is clear: they softly lay, but sleep hard ...
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      It always has been, the most corrupt and unprincipled jesters had tsatskis, but they can’t eat. Wonder it seemed a little Makarke, angry. In the USSR, orders were given for the cause, for contribution to the culture (1 piece in hand), 2 - an exception to the rule. There were bonuses and titles, and enough, and so in the dough bathe.
    3. Victor N 5 February 2020 08: 40 New
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      Very surprised! Amazing imbalances, I can’t even believe it ...
  • Free wind 5 February 2020 06: 51 New
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    Interestingly, now in the west they award gold discs, now all media on flash drives. It will be logical to award a golden microflash. . Regarding the awards, it seems to me that A.B Pugachev was awarded not in vain. All the same, she is a great singer, though with her kooky. But to reward everyone there .... howling about thieves and rapists, whom the cops tied up, about thug romance, I don’t understand this. And the same "surgeon" patlaty, unfinished dental technician, for what was awarded?
  • Vladimir61 5 February 2020 06: 54 New
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    The Order of Merit for the Fatherland is a state award of the Russian Federation. It is intended to reward citizens for particularly outstanding services related to the strengthening of Russian statehood, the country's socio-economic development, research activities, the development of culture and art, outstanding sports achievements, the strengthening of peace, friendship and cooperation between peoples, for their significant contribution to strengthening defense country.

    It’s interesting, for what special contribution to the development of culture have they already been awarded this order three times by the Vinokurov a and Pugachev mentioned in the article (IV, III, II degree of this order)? What enriched culture and art "from order to order"? How can one compare the next contribution of a scientist, designer or military man, when they were awarded the next stage of the Order, with the merits of pop musicians, who also froze in the last century?
    1. Victor N 5 February 2020 08: 45 New
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      To mark “for the development of culture” is correct, but not for “show business,” to which I include sports.
      1. Vladimir61 5 February 2020 08: 51 New
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        which include "sport"

        Far from equal! If an athlete three times became the Olympic champion, three times glorified his country, then he is worthy of such an award. After all, he has not wandered around taverns and private parties all these years ...
        1. Victor N 5 February 2020 14: 04 New
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          Where such "glory of the country" is accumulated and manifested - I do not know. I have never heard that in negotiations or voting in international bodies the "sports glory of the country" was taken into account. This is a figure of speech, no more. Even when drunk (at the international level) no one remembers sports achievements. Only for domestic consumption, but as an argument for recovering money from the budget. But people need spectacles (shows) .....
  • Monster_Fat 5 February 2020 06: 57 New
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    Well, actually rewarding with “trinkets-blingers” - this is the “know-how” of all the poorest states. Look at all sorts of dictatorial Papuans — there’s just body armor from orders of the “elite” —and they’ll also make “orders” to make it bigger, yes a little more. This is done in order to note with a similar award that a person is, as it were, not ordinary servants, but already a little higher (depending on the rank of the "order") and is already part of a caste group that differs from the rest of the plebeians. That is, it should increase the "patriotic mood" of the awarded. It is, on the one hand, on the other hand, it is beneficial for the state to award “trinkets”, it does not require special expenses, usually nothing is attached to the status of such awards or something purely symbolic is attached. The state hung a "trinket" on the chest of the awarded one, therefore it (the state) already noted its "merits" and should not do anything to it anymore - "cheap and cheerful." In countries of the "golden billion" instead of "trinkets", it is customary to reward a person with monetary prizes (as was done in the "damned" "Stalin era").
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      Quote: Monster_Fat
      to reward with "tsatsk-trinkets" -this is the "know-how" of all the poorest states. Look at all sorts of Papuans of a dictatorial type - there are right body armor

      I agree, look at the admirals, US generals, typical Papuans, the whole chest is in the order straps, if they don the order, it will bend, the ass will be higher than the head. requestcomply with the rules do not wear tsatski.
    2. Victor N 5 February 2020 08: 51 New
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      It is by no means a good old tradition in many countries to mark with dignity those who distinguished themselves in ensuring the interests of society and the state. The main thing is a symbol, reward is desirable, but not necessary.
  • Adam Khomich 5 February 2020 07: 03 New
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    Do not make yourself an idol!
  • Mavrikiy 5 February 2020 07: 30 New
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    Which regiments did the order bearers serve in?
    Duc, who is where ..... who is in Davos, who is in Kurshavel ..... request
  • Van 16 5 February 2020 07: 43 New
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    Sorry, not quite the topic. Podgorodetskiy himself, by the way, is not a gift either. Whoever read his book will understand. Solid chernukha. In my opinion, he spat on everyone he could. Only about Kobzon somehow neutral wrote.
  • nikvic46 5 February 2020 08: 05 New
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    This situation is beneficial for the leadership. This electorate will not let you down when voting. It was in this environment that people voted for the reform of the pension system. Even an unhealthy child can "unscrew". Until the parent stops him. All the "jesters" had their authors. But the latter disappeared. But the "jesters" are used to making the audience laugh. And the audience, in turn, laughs at fulfilling their money. Here we get a farce. We sometimes talk about clips among politicians. But they exist in all areas of prominent cultural figures. And now the girl who showed all the charms of her body already discusses politics . And even advises how to live.
  • Oleg Skvortsov 5 February 2020 08: 05 New
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    Present-day Russia is seriously ill with Vlasovites and liberals, some love capitalism to the madness, others the West, but all of them hate the people or, at least, consider them to be dirty. They’ve awarded all the kodlu
    comedy club would not forget yet! Here they have the most significant contribution to the unification of the country, they are drawn to the order of Mazepa. What rubbish, it’s not audible at all that these people do something for the country, join charitable foundations, help people who are sick children, hold concerts, raise money for those in need, support culture, science, and even nature. No! Only they need it here.
    . The only one from this swamp who was engaged in thoughts was Zadornov, he wanted the people to develop, to look for something in themselves, in others, and strive for knowledge.
  • Andrey Gurenkov 5 February 2020 08: 14 New
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    come on. Look elotnu John, too, it seems like they gave the knight)))
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      come on. Look elotnu John, too, it seems like they gave the knight)))

      So Proshka the Sardinian king granted two gold medals "for the care of Suvorov" laughing
  • Dmitry Bolotsky 5 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    What I tried to write "East Breeze on the Fan" is really sad. It is also sad that profane who imagine themselves to be great oracles take up the pen. - one jump to the side. Many people correctly noted on the forum - I want to read such diarrhea. But the topic that the author wanted to convey, with permission, this opus, is not disclosed. The fact that our artists, like parrots, are hung from the keel to the klotik with orders and medals, and the fact that the cemetery of the Novodevichy Convent is no longer pushed from the graves of the lyceum people who have done so much for our country, is one side of the coin. It is much worse that there are no among the awarded farmers, workers, doctors, builders. As there is no order of Labor. And about this do not write zhurnalyugi. They don’t write, because all articles are paid. And this is in addition to advertising. So it turns out, who pays, then we read. The article is a fat minus.
  • Lamata 5 February 2020 08: 41 New
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    I support the author. The Russian national football team was awarded according to the results of the World Cup 2018, the main order is to the head coach, and the rest are medals. But interestingly, the players of the French team in the command of the Order of the Legion of Honor erected?))))
  • Maks1995 5 February 2020 08: 57 New
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    "It is time to stop producing state order-bearers and national actors and artists in capitalist society in this void, so that you don’t blush for the scandalous" stars. "

    So they will ask the author in the Kremlin - is it time? or is it time?

    Hand washes a hand. How to lay out somewhere the iconostasis of some sort of "effective manager" - at least stand at least fall ....

    And every year you need to get it right - to DR, to Angel Day, to NG, to a date or anniversary ... And the higher the rank, the more congratulations, and more valuable gifts .... to the patriarch, for example .... or to the banker .... well, and how not to give the official ....
  • Amateur 5 February 2020 09: 03 New
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    Colleagues! I propose directly on the site to conduct a small social poll about Phil Kirkorov.
    The one of the commentators of VO who watches Filia on TV or goes to his concerts - give me a minus. Who does not walk and does not look, but wants to participate in the survey, puts +.
    "The most necessary invention of the 2nd half of the twentieth century is a remote control from the TV."

    PS Dear moderators. If suddenly the difference in +/- exceeds 25 units, block the vote.
    1. AU Ivanov. 5 February 2020 16: 24 New
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      Yes, I would give you 10 pluses in one gulp. For this to Gerontophilus.
      1. Amateur 5 February 2020 17: 16 New
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        I just switch the channel. To filia, to Petrosyan, to Alla B. (God heard prayers and there is practically none). And endless talk shows with the same Ukrainian rojamy scolding Russia. It seems that for the sake of "freedom of speech" sacrificed "common sense". I just feel sorry for my 4 grandchildren.
        1. AU Ivanov. 5 February 2020 17: 46 New
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          Really among the hundreds of odd channels can not find anything suitable for your grandchildren. After all, there are both historical and educational channels.
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            After all, there are both historical and educational channels.
            . My grandchildren, like most other modern children, do not watch TV at all. Internet forever. The only good thing is that they learn languages.
            1. AU Ivanov. 5 February 2020 18: 11 New
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              Well, your grandchildren do the right thing. And to learn languages, thanks to the Internet, has become much easier than before. Up to communication with native speakers.
  • Lamata 5 February 2020 09: 15 New
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    Let their awards reward anyone they want (s).
  • rocket757 5 February 2020 09: 24 New
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    Which regiments did the order bearers serve in?

    Shaw say ... but you will not say anything permitted, pi, pi, pi ..........
  • Ros 56 5 February 2020 09: 40 New
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    What strange headings, regiment of Her Majesty’s music or don’t listen at all, I won’t believe it, everyone has their favorite artists and songs. And the rewards, these are from the leadership, they didn’t hang themselves for themselves. I think this is not the case when breaking spears. fellow hi
  • Lamata 5 February 2020 10: 12 New
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    Oh, minusers, do you even bring counter arguments))) or are you awarded a medal for the defense of the White House? and a bunch of regional medals, we saw such wink
  • Assyrian 5 February 2020 10: 21 New
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    "East wind", thanks for the article !!!!!!!!!!! Formulated clearly and correctly.
  • Million 5 February 2020 10: 48 New
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    The authorities and the clowns have much in common. Both of them sing about love, but they love only themselves and money.
  • NordUral 5 February 2020 11: 06 New
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    True, the old repertoire hackneyed is still selling well, especially among the older generation, nostalgic for the bright Soviet past and their own youth.

    What is there, have already debased their past.
  • AleBors 5 February 2020 11: 29 New
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    Well them, these krivlyak. For a long time all this "bohemia" lives in a parallel country, together with our government.
  • iouris 5 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    About Rosenbaum and Gazmanov forgot. It is time to appropriate the next and extraordinary military ranks, respectively, vice admiral and cap-times.
  • Mikhail3 5 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    Nothing will change until ... I don’t know when it will change. At the moment, all this “bohemia” is just one of the channels for cashing out state funds, and that’s all. Of course, they are left fatly, but they are not the recipients of the bulk of the state funds. Do you really think that Makarevich just spoke about a film about him ?! Somewhere, they wrapped up the financing of the project, in the direction of the one who is more influential. Well, Makarevich was used ... he did not get used to it.
  • kaplei 5 February 2020 13: 16 New
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    Educated people who got acquainted with the bohemian atmosphere knew perfectly well that an artist or an actor, no matter how gifted he may be, in life can be a complete immoral degenerate. Totally agree with THIS! More than once by chance was this "witness". The elderly leaders of the equestrian industry have their own to the fullest ... Why do they all have titles, regalia, denyuzhka? Maslyakova - the building of the KVN, Raikin - yes, please, the theater, and so you can list for a long time. What is the result? Art for a small layer of "bohemia" of the capital's inhabitants, the generation of DOM-2, etc.
  • sandra 5 February 2020 14: 08 New
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    Dear author, just for reference: Henry VII Tudor, the ancestor of the dynasty, was the uterine brother of Henry VI of Lancaster, their mother was Margarita Beaufort, granddaughter of John Gaunt, founder of the Lancaster clan. Henry VII Tudor, taking the throne, married Elizabeth of York. That is, the ancestors of the following representatives of the Tudor clan, whose coat of arms symbolizes the union of the scarlet and white roses, were both Lancaster and York. Elizabeth herself is the last queen with the blood of York and Lancaster. What is the destruction of the York clan if she is her blood representative?
    This is about the issue of education ...
  • jurijsv 5 February 2020 14: 29 New
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    How rewards become worthless when their comedians are handed out. And our grandfathers shed blood
    1. iouris 5 February 2020 19: 04 New
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      How rewards are discounted

      The rewards they deserve. These "comedians" helped a lot in 1991 ... 1998 to carry out and complete the counter-revolution.
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        If so, then yes. We’ve done a lot of shit to ruin the country
  • Lekz 5 February 2020 14: 49 New
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    I would be calmer. Wise Greeks (the very ones) this artistic fraternity outside their policies. They simply understood the abnormality of their morals. In our tolerant age, the "creative intelligentsia" lives among us and, logically, their morals penetrate the weak. Well, do not evict them for 101 km? Or is someone hoping to redo the nature of this community?
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      The USSR was completely redone. Yes, there was shit, but there were Bykov, and Smoktunovsky, and Raikin, and hundreds of others, near whom it was a privilege to stand, and not because of "starryness" but because of who they were. And their work was that deer helped people to grow and develop spiritually.
  • Shopping Mall 5 February 2020 15: 55 New
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    Any government funding of films, singers, singers, dance groups and so on and so forth must be stopped fundamentally. Parasites
    Leave funding only to museums and maintenance of historical buildings, and if, for example, the theater team cannot maintain the building for 5-10 years, i.e. the state pays for it, the building is put up for sale with a restriction on the profile of use (so that the theater is not converted into a brothel).

    And so it turns out interesting, they receive our taxes in the form of state. financing, but would you kindly pay for tickets to a movie or theater?
    1. evgen1221 7 February 2020 06: 44 New
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      All right write. Only these figures have been rowing for a long time, unforgettable feeding at the expense of the budget and thus weighing losses on us. At the same time, constantly crying about his own hard life and screaming and screaming from each iron about his comfortable life and rest. Hypocrites and scum rather than carriers of culture.
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    What is in their place? Basque with Kirkorov (and the like) jumping on TV?

    Yes, near the TV, how many do not jump, they will not be awarded an order - the rewards are only to those who are on TV because the Motherland must know its heroes in the face!
  • Valerikk 5 February 2020 18: 01 New
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    I remembered V.S. Vysotsky:
    "Take the order from Nasser -
    Not suitable for the order Nasser! "

    Nasser, Philip, Maxim, Andrey ... there is no number for them.
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      since the word honor is forgotten and since the honor in the slander
  • depressant 5 February 2020 19: 04 New
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    Scrolled through the forum. How all this is far from me - I am squeamish about this kind of "art", I am a fan of the "pop" of the past - classics. Sometimes Russian rock - Kinchev, the unforgettable late Gorshenyov. And it's all. In the 90s, Pugachev’s “Mom, Mom, where is my Panama?” Was enough. And the statements of the so-called "prima donna" that she is very comfortable singing when the "respected people", sitting in the hall at the tables, eat champagne, and drink alcohol. Power, with the help of such carriers of panama, educates consumers of the surrogate - both musical and political. Having finally prioritized stolen capital over common sense and good taste, he creates the basis for the constant prosperity of his own inviolability. And all this causes, in addition to anger, a feeling of awkwardness - with me. But they do not have shame.
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      will, will be. barbecue ... will be? awkwardness? shame. about their bastard.
  • 7,62h54 5 February 2020 21: 13 New
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    This is even compared with the fact that orders and stars give former terrorugs, and the same awards give the guys who drove these terrorugs in the mountains and forests. Only here, some guys received awards posthumously, and bearded men are alive and well, at the helm, so to speak.
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      about those who somehow went to the mosque named after Kadyrov
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