US Army again allowed to use anti-personnel mines

The President of the United States, Donald Trump, lifted the ban on the use by the US armed forces of anti-personnel mines imposed under former President Barack Obama. This is stated in a statement by White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham.

Based on a strong commitment to guarantee the ability of our armed forces to withstand any threats, US President Donald Trump repeals the ban imposed by the Barack Obama administration on the use of anti-personnel mines outside the Korean Peninsula. The U.S. Department of Defense has determined that such restrictions put the armed forces at a disadvantage during the conflict.

- said Grisham.

In turn, the Pentagon said that after the lifting of the ban in the future they intend to use only anti-personnel mines equipped with a mechanism for self-destruction or self-disposal.

The ministry will use, develop, produce or purchase mines that are inconsistent, which means that they must be equipped with self-destruction mechanisms and self-disposal options

- The report says the US military.

As the Pentagon press service explained, the US military pledges to use anti-personnel mines that can self-destruct 30 or less days after installation, regardless of how they were installed. In addition, they should have an additional function of self-neutralization.

The decision to use mines in a given situation remains with the commanders of the troops. The Pentagon reserves the right to purchase and have a "limited number" of permanent mines for "training personnel involved in mine clearance"

- said in a statement.

Earlier, the Barack Obama administration imposed a ban on the use by the US military of anti-personnel mines everywhere except the Korean Peninsula.

Comments

[Ros 56]

And even in Afghanistan did not apply? And in the Middle East, and who would you ask me to check? No faith striped from the word at all.

[Kleber]

Yes, both used and used. And all these decrees on cancellation, on restriction, on self-destructing mines are nothing more than a game to the public.

[maxim947]

We are waiting for phosphorus to be officially authorized soon.
After using the tips with lunch uranium, anti-personnel mines look like a bow and arrow.

[Jack O'Neill]

Phosphorus is not forbidden. Effective weapons ...

[Shurik70]

Any weapon can be used both to the detriment and to the advantage.
When mines surround a military base - well, what harm can the civilian population have? Do not poke around the fence, and do not explode. Well, if the sheep wandered - no luck.
But when they put on the roads and paths, yes there. Anyone will be blown up.

I was interested in the "self-destructing" mines. In any mine, two elements are required - an explosive and a detonator. In addition, there is still a lot of stuff you can stuff, but these two elements will always be. And purely technical, how can you organize "self-destruction"? For example, during World War II, the USSR made anti-tank mines in wooden gramophone boxes. A few years later, the tree rotted, and then the explosives also rotted. It is unlikely that the United States is using such advanced technology. A period of 2 days is more like a battery discharge time. That is, the detonator is electronic, battery powered. I changed the battery and can be used again. I think this is how it is implemented.
Who knows for sure?

[Free wind]

Well, we use sub-caliber with depleted uranium, and armor with depleted uranium. and what’s wrong with that?

[maxim947]

That is yes. It is forbidden to use only against civilians, but given the modern nature of local wars, this cannot be avoided.
Therefore, both in Yugoslavia and in Syria, they burned civilians "under the guise" of this amendment

[venik]

Quote: Free Wind

Well, we use sub-caliber with depleted uranium, and armor with depleted uranium. and what’s wrong with that?

=======
Well, about BOPS "Lead" - there are no questions! But WHERE do we use armor made of "depleted" uranium ??? Something I have not heard!
Can you tell me?

[Mouse]

Quote: Kleber

Yes, both used and used

the legislative base was summed up retroactively ... something like that ...

[Nehist]

I’ll say more ... If I have MRP available, I’ll put them around the post block and bury them

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Nehist

I’ll say more ... If I have MRP available, I’ll put them around the post block and bury them

Yes, the same extensions according to the classification are no longer mines.

[PSih2097]

better MONOK / M18 Claymore has not yet been invented ...

Quote: Nyrobsky

Yes, the same extensions according to the classification are no longer mines.

Yes, not land mines, only problems from them are more, it is better to use OZM.

[Nehist]

PFN-1 is much more dangerous to sow them stupidly area is fashionable

[PSih2097]

Quote: Nehist

PFN-1 is much more dangerous to sow them stupidly area is fashionable

Well, that’s the point at the checkpoint, and not about sowing a district with an area of ​​a couple of hectares.

[Nehist]

there was anyway an opportunity ... Sowed !!!! I feel calm and the boys are alive ... Alas, there was no possibility

[PSih2097]

Quote: Nehist

there was anyway an opportunity ... Sowed !!!! I feel calm and the boys are alive ... Alas, there was no possibility

Well, if you look from this point of view, then I am behind both hands, but in my personal opinion still POM (which is "Swelling") will be more effective ...

[Nehist]

PFN has a huge advantage !!! Plastic case, minimum size (2 pieces fit on my palm) The thing is very effective

[seregatara1969]

And then who will get these petals? To clean who and how? And plastic will wait a long time for its victim

[Mik13]

Quote: seregatara1969

And then who will get these petals? To clean who and how? And plastic will wait a long time for its victim

Will not be. Modern petals come with self-liquidator a long time ago.
But those of the first series, which were produced without a self-liquidator, can no longer be used - their shelf life has expired, even if in warehouses and were inundated.

[vadim dok]

And Russia in general NEVER PROHIBITED anti-personnel mines!

[Serwid]

Well, gentlemen are customary to take the word.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Ros 56

And even in Afghanistan did not apply? And in the Middle East, and who would you ask me to check? No faith striped from the word at all.

An article could be written in just one line ..
The Americans are back to the old way of killing civilians: landmines.

[Nehist]

Dear Nexus! Amerikintsy under Abama signed an anti-terrorist financing agreement, but Russia never signed it

[NEXUS]

Quote: Nehist

Dear Nexus! Amerikintsy under Abama signed an anti-terrorist financing agreement, but Russia never signed it

But the Russian Federation does not fight all over the world, putting anti-personnel mines, as if planting potatoes ... yeah ...

[Nehist]

Gg do not believe it !!! We set, we put and we will put !!! PPM is one of the most effective means of protection

[vadim dok]

Of course! There is no Syria, no Libya .....

[Cowbra]

Oh, damn it ... I ride. Previously, they circumvented this ban very simply. Mines are forbidden to use the US Army. And now SLOW. The number of PMCs in Afghanistan is 10 times the number of calories. They have no bans

[RUSS]

Quote: Ros 56

And even in Afghanistan did not apply? And in the Middle East, and who would you ask me to check? No faith striped from the word at all.

Ours in Syria used
banned cluster bombs and everything is fine too.

[Jack O'Neill]

Ours did not sign the agreement on cassettes, as did the Americans. So it is possible.

[Cowbra]

Who are forbidden? See who signed the cassette convention:

The publication of deliberate fakes on the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is a criminal offense. not to mention the fact that you should have been told at school that lying is not good

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ros 56

And even in Afghanistan did not apply?

And, let me ask America, whose mines the spirits used to mine our dead boys, knowing that "the troopers do not abandon their own"? And whose "frogs" were they? And with whose mines did the boys tear off their hands on the trophy "sound decks"? Was it all not American?

Double standards in everything and everywhere.


I remember their mines ... And what my father could tell about American mines - in Honduras and Nicaragua, in Vietnam and Laos, in Cuba, in Egypt and Algeria - even Tide cannot clean America at all.

[Nehist]

well, there was, by and large, China ... Roughly speaking, analogues !!! And you don’t throw all this fake landing ... such crap in all branches of the army !!! we must also bury civilians

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nehist

But now, if it is necessary to fulfill the BZ, they will abandon both their own and others, and if necessary, they will also bury civilians

We will bury anyone, but we will not abandon our own - neither the living, not the "two hundred" - my father and the troops taught me that way.

Quote: Nehist

well, there was by and large China ...

Well, uncle, I, speaking English at a conversational level, could not, of course, understand why the mine cleared said "Richmond, US" ...

[Nehist]

Gg markings on our mines runes written? Do not carry crap !!! I don’t know what you were taught there, but for the failure of the BZ !!! Rota consumables ... Yes Tough but it is
PS Itself was a consumable.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nehist

Is the marking written on our mines with runes?

Where did you see the manufacturer's address on our mines or any other weapons?

Quote: Nehist

Do not carry crap !!!

Do not carry crap yourself if you have read the markings at least once ...

Quote: Nehist

Rota consumables ...

Well, it depends on which company ... If at 41 near Moscow, then yes. And if in the 80s in Afghanistan, yes, a specially selected one - I would also have looked who was "consumable".

[Glory1974]

brost You all this fake landing does not throw ... such crap in all the armed forces !!

Well, why fake?
After the first Chechen company, the Airborne Forces were the only ones who left after taking all of their own: both the dead and the prisoners.

[BARKAS]

Diana is not on them, so Tumberg should be set on them or something.

[GBM]

Quote: BARKAS

Diana is not on them, so Tumberg should be set on them or something.

Tumberg is just their project ..))))

[Cowbra]

Judging by progressive gretinism - this is so

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: GBM

Quote: BARKAS

Diana is not on them, so Tumberg should be set on them or something.

Tumberg is just their project ..))))

Yeah. And called "Tumberg Environmental Mine"

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: BARKAS

Diana is not on them, so Tumberg should be set on them or something.

Thumberg is only against planes. And land mines her childhood was not taken away.

Impudent deb ... du ......

To her place in the Sverdlovsk yellow house, and not to the UN.

[Ros 56]

Do you have enough of yours in the yellow house, is there empty space? Yes, in our country, officials through one can determine there, you will not be mistaken.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ros 56

What are you missing in your yellow house?

My house is not yellow, but brick, made of "facing". And for yellow at home we have enough clientele even without me - the orderlies can barely cope. But for "non-brothers" in an extraordinary manner, I think there will be places.

[Ros 56]

So I'm not talking about your house, but about the "Sverdlovsk Yellow House", I just cut it down.

[GBM]

You might think they didn’t use them .. In Vietnam they burned them with napalm and poisoned them with chemistry and even wanted to use them, but the USSR warned them of the consequences .. They were scared and left!

[The leader of the Redskins]

The USSR is the Union! Male! Hence "warned"! And what ends in ... OLO is neuter! It may be in its pants, but even America will not be afraid of such a warning!

[GBM]

Li Xi Tsyn Solved the Problem of Vietnam and Korea .. Believe me!
And now in Syria this elusive Ivanovitch is deciding ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: GBM

Frightened and gone!

Looking for how they left. They did not leave, they ran. And, as expected, they called it loudly - Operation Gusty Wind ... Into the Dupu ...

Already on aircraft carriers there were not enough places for standing.

Are you not afraid that during an attack on Russia there will not even be time to dump helicopters into the ocean? Missiles fly fast ...

[Avior]

nothing to do with it.
helicopters dropped when an urgent need to land a plane with the family of a South Vietnamese pilot

On April 29, in bad weather, a light aircraft called Cessna O-0 Bird Dog appeared over the aircraft carrier, intending to board the deck of an American ship. On the plane, which was flown by South Vietnam Air Force Major Lee Byng, were also his wife and five children. Lee Byng took off from Conshon Island in the South China Sea and headed for the open sea to search for an aircraft carrier. Having found him, the pilot came up to land three times, but he was disturbed by the evacuation helicopters that forced the deck of the aircraft carrier. [1] During the third call, he managed to throw a pistol on the deck of the aircraft carrier, in which there was a note that his family was on board the aircraft. The captain of the Midway Chambers decided to urgently drop the helicopters from the deck of the aircraft carrier that interfered with the landing of the Cessna. [1] As a result of the fourth approach, Lee Byng accurately landed the plane on the vacant deck of the Midway, thus saving himself and his family. [2] Those present were impressed that the major on the remaining fuel was able to find an aircraft carrier in the sea, as well as the successful landing of an aircraft not adapted for the deck, and immediately began raising funds for the major's family.

[Mihail2019]

And "Cessna" is with the SGA identification marks.
By the way, such an easy device, and even adapted for landing on unpaved areas, to land on an aircraft carrier is not a great task .. Especially for a major pilot.

[Mihail2019]

I'm sorry what I deserve a ban ?! In general, in this case it is not clear.

[Avior]

In bad weather, with a crosswind, on the last drops of fuel, on a deck clogged with equipment, which was somehow cleared for landing, a plane jammed with people, besides, he had never put it on deck before
Not so simple. Probably, the aircraft carrier understood what is difficult to do and what is not

[Alex Justice]

In our dock movie, he was clearly told by SBS to make way for refugees.

[The leader of the Redskins]

If I’m not mistaken, then the American mine setting scheme is rather chaotic ... So much so that there the devil will break his leg! The idea of ​​self-destruction is, of course, good. But then it implies re-setting in the case of a long defense. And if the marriage is production? Does this mean first check for unexploded, and then put on a new one?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

If I’m not mistaken, then the American mine setting scheme is rather chaotic ... So much so that there the devil will break his leg!

Yes, we, too, at one time made a go-go. Only in our headquarters there were schemes. Not that it is easy to pass, but so that there is where to look. And they bet from being free - "we won't come back here." And they are torn on their own "forbidden" mines in Afghanistan.

[Operator]

The United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Israel, Egypt and several other states have not signed an international anti-personnel mine ban treaty. Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan and some others have not ratified the already signed treaty.

So Trump acted logically.

[Mountain shooter]

When they need it - this is a "forbidden, inhuman weapon", and when necessary - they drove them without counting ... Morality is so ... flexible. Insolent Saxon ...

[LiSiCyn]

Populism. As applied, and apply. Photos from Afghanistan, with consequences for the peaceful, are on the network. All bases have minefields. Constantly undermining animals and shepherds.

[Krasnodar]

Hi Stas!
So it was only about the Korean peninsula. Apparently, negotiations with Eun at Redhead came to a standstill.

[LiSiCyn]

Hi Albert!
No, you don't understand. On the Korean Peninsula, both used and applied. With no restrictions. It was just about other "points".

[Krasnodar]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Hi Albert!
No, you don't understand. On the Korean Peninsula, both used and applied. With no restrictions. It was just about other "points".

Right Sorki))

[Avior]

on the Korean peninsula on the border of North and South Korea in the demilitarized zone there is a wide strip of mines
This is the largest minefield in the world.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: LiSiCyn

All bases have minefields. Constantly undermining animals and shepherds.

It would be foolish and untrue to assert that we had a "perimeter" without a "fence." But either snipers or RPGs worked for us - they were afraid to come close - either they would be blown up, or the landing troops would jump out of the "base" and tear them into shreds.

In my memory, two saigas were blown up ... And then an alarm around the perimeter was arranged.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In my memory, two saigas blew up ...

Well, here they are, as well ... All bases are covered with minefields. There is evidence of a covert installation on mountain trails. Undermining the peace man. In most cases, they try to blame the SA. Like an "echo" of that war.

[Mouse]

In addition, they should have an additional function of self-neutralization.

.... must, but not obligated .... yes, something will go wrong ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mouse

In addition, they should have an additional function of self-neutralization.

.... must, but not obligated .... yes, something will go wrong ....

Everybody has "neutralization". At least the ones I know, even though I'm not a sapper-specialist. But about "self-neutralization" ... Near Smolensk, German mines are still found ...

[Mouse]

My regards! "Neutralization" - that's it, in quotes ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mouse

My regards! "Neutralization" - that's it, in quotes ...

Or "on the alert" or "to detonate" - but any mine has neutralization.

Our boys-sappers "unrecoverable" in the ravine near the "perimeter" blew up. I don’t know how they did it. Not a specialist. But were able to do more than 30 years ago. I think their lieutenants are already generals, so I hope the skill is not lost.

[Mouse]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Our boys-sappers "unrecoverable" in the ravine near the "perimeter" blew up.

so undermined by themselves .... and not she herself self-destructed ... that’s the question ... maybe I’m not catching up with something ... excuse me ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mouse

Quote: Zoldat_A

Our boys-sappers "unrecoverable" in the ravine near the "perimeter" blew up.

so undermined by themselves .... and not she herself self-destructed ... that’s the question ... maybe I’m not catching up with something ... excuse me ....

To be honest, I only read about the "self-destructor" of mines in Vipikeedia - and there they will write a lot ... The main thing is to believe.

About "non-removability" I know on the eye - as I said above - the boys-sappers removed and undermined.

[Angelo Provolone]

Soon in Ukraine?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Angelo Provolone

Soon in Ukraine?

What's in Ukraine? Ukraine at one time joined the "ban" on anti-personnel mines, but since the beginning of the conflict in the Donbass it has been and is using them with might and main ...

[Avior]

from the rest, it seems
It has not been produced in Ukraine for a long time

[knn54]

After the Yankees left the UN Human Rights Committee, I am not surprised at anything.

[maidan.izrailovich]

What such a stir around this, so-so, news.
The ban in question is an internal US affair. He was introduced by Barack Obama.
They themselves were banned, and they themselves lifted the ban.
The United States did not take any international obligations not to use anti-personnel mines. As indeed Russia.

[Nehist]

And actually what is it about? Russia has not signed a banned convention and PPM so that both set and put. In the eyes of the whole world we are outcasts

[Zeev Zeev]

Why was it forbidden? The enemy somehow does not bother with these conventions and sows the battlefield with homemade products and serial anti-personnel mines. C fig whether civilized countries should abandon these weapons?

[lvov_aleksey]

star-striped can say anything.
But at the same time chem. weapons are used (white phosphorus), carpet bombing is also in use