Ten grams from Naama: President Putin’s pardon of an Israeli citizen

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Israeli Israeli Naama Issahar, pardoned by the President of Russia, returned to her homeland. She was personally brought to Israel by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who recently visited Moscow and met with Vladimir Putin. What did the girl trying to take drugs deserve such attention from senior officials?

The number of citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as countries of the near and far abroad, serving sentences in places of deprivation of liberty for the possession and transportation of drugs, amounts to tens of thousands of people. Not for nothing that article 228 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is called “national” - almost half of all Russian prisoners are sitting on it.



In recent years, the Russian state has significantly tightened its liability for any drug-related crimes. So, for a relatively small amount of drugs found in a citizen, he can receive a very impressive term of imprisonment, comparable to the punishment for rape and even murder. Often sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Most of those convicted under article 228 are young people, boys and girls. Among them there are real criminals, but there are also those who sat, as they say, out of stupidity. Someone was flattered by the work of a “courier for 150 thousand a month” and made several so-called “bookmarks,” after which he was caught by the police. Someone just had with them a little more than the prescribed amount of the drug. All of them stretch their term and hope only for the help of relatives and for the opportunity to go on parole through either their behavior or their connections in the FSIN system.

The girl was detained at Sheremetyevo Airport when she was traveling from Delhi to Tel Aviv. During the inspection, narcotic substances were found in her. Naama Issahar received 7,5 years in prison. Of course, this is hardly a proportional punishment. In the end, for the brutal killings in our country give little more. But now this is not about that.

But the Israeli woman Issahar, who carried 9 grams of hash, was awarded the highest honor. Firstly, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu personally addressed her issue. He personally asked President Putin to have mercy on the girl. Secondly, during a visit to Israel, Putin organized a meeting with Naama Issahar’s mother, Jaffa Issahar. This is an unprecedented situation - the president of a world power meets with an ordinary Israeli woman - the mother of a girl detained in Russia with drugs. Finally, Putin, just when Netanyahu was on a visit to Russia, signed a decree to pardon Naama Issahar.

A logical question arises, why is so ordinary importance attached to the ordinary case? For example, in Russia, Maria Dapirka from Rostov-on-Don has been serving her sentence for several years. She was detained with a batch of cocaine, and, apparently, Dapirka was framed by her Nigerian boyfriend.

Ten grams from Naama: President Putin’s pardon of an Israeli citizen

Maria Dapirka. Photo: Maria Dapirka's page on the social network

But Dapirka was sentenced to life imprisonment and neither Vladimir Putin nor Dmitry Medvedev at the government level were interested in her fate. And the leadership of Vietnam for some reason, too, was not worried about the possible deterioration of relations with Russia. Because no deterioration would follow. Unlike the United States or the same Israel, the culture to stand up for its citizen in any situation, even if he is not right, but fell into history»Abroad, in our country is not developed.

When in Russia they started talking about releasing Issahar in order not to spoil Russian-Israeli relations, the question arose, why did they actually have to go bad due to the detention of the girl with drugs? In fact, Moscow actually played up with Benjamin Netanyahu. Now Israel has the opportunity to once again declare to the whole world: their Jews do not abandon and help out of any situation. For Netanyahu, this is a personal victory and a big PR before the upcoming elections.

Vladimir Putin, it turns out, did a service to Benjamin Netanyahu, which, by and large, cost the president nothing - a stroke of the pen, and FSIN officers opened the doors to an Israeli citizen.

By the way, the notorious Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov several times filed a request for parole and each time these petitions were rejected. How do the applications of tens of thousands of young men and women like Naama Issahar, who foolishly find themselves in similar situations and who have been in Russian places of deprivation of liberty for years, rejected.
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    1. +41
      2 February 2020 12: 51
      In our country, "ours" are not imprisoned with a maximum fine of 30000 rubles.
      1. +15
        2 February 2020 12: 54
        In recent years, the Russian state has significantly tightened liability for any drug-related crimes.

        In our country, "ours" are not imprisoned with a maximum fine of 30000 rubles.

        As an example, Bochkarev ..
        1. +42
          2 February 2020 13: 13
          The number of citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as countries of the near and far abroad, serving sentences in places of deprivation of liberty for the storage and transportation of drugs, is calculated tens of thousands of people. Not in vain Article 228 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is called “national” - almost half of all Russian prisoners are sitting on it.

          First of all, it’s sad that so many peoplejudging by the scale of the convicts under Article 228 of the Criminal Code, this infection - drugs - is imported into our country in one way or another and consumed.

          And secondly, as you know, the pardoned Israeli Issakhar, even after her release by Putin, defiantly in front of journalists publicly did not admit her guilt !!!
          This means that she herself, as an Israeli citizen, doesn’t care about Russia as such, including Putin! She or someone else from Israel will repeat this and again!
          1. +47
            2 February 2020 13: 16
            Quote: Tatiana
            This means that she - a citizen of Israel - is like spitting on Russia as such!

            This may also mean that Putin and his entourage do not care about Israel ..
            1. +20
              2 February 2020 13: 37
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Tatiana
              This means that she - a citizen of Israel - is like spitting on Russia as such!
              This may also mean that Putin and his entourage do not care about Israel ..

              The fact that Putin and his entourage do not care about Israel is understandable. But the fact that an Israeli citizen allows herself SUCH disrespect for Russia, Putin, and even Netanyahu himself - says a lot!
              Who does she even take herself for - this Israeli Jewish drug addict ?! Why does she have such a conceit about herself ?! Something here is not pure in her head - she has obvious degradation!
              1. -6
                2 February 2020 14: 38
                Is it unusual for you to see that the head of state is not a demigod who needs to kiss his legs?
              2. +2
                2 February 2020 15: 38
                Who knows, this is not a fake case ????
                https://cont.ws/@Skuratoff/1573331
              3. +1
                2 February 2020 16: 11
                Quote: Tatiana
                Israeli citizen allows herself such disrespect for Russia,

                If I’m not mistaken, she was kidnapped and exchanged for a stolen house. What respect are you talking about?
                Quote: Tatiana
                and even to Netanyahu himself

                Bibi himself is put in jail in prison. Not only for this story, but also for this one.
              4. -1
                2 February 2020 16: 54
                This is an ordinary "Zechka" of the type of Nadia Savchenko, there is still the question of who got worse from her release.
              5. +7
                2 February 2020 19: 01
                in my opinion you are dramatizing - for me, and for the author, the stupidity of the situation itself is obvious to give 7 years for 9 grams of hash while the floor of the world smokes it legally and took it not in the territory of the Russian Federation but in the transit zone
                1. +6
                  2 February 2020 21: 13
                  I will surprise you very much with the assertion that the transit zone is the territory of the Russian Federation? An Israeli citizen, of course, was not lucky that they took her not in that half of the world where hashish is smoked legally, but with us ....
                  1. -1
                    2 February 2020 21: 21
                    Quote: tolancop
                    I will surprise you very much with the assertion that the transit zone is the territory of the Russian Federation?

                    Yah?

                    Transit zone is located at the passport control point regarding the entrance to the airport or before passport control when leaving the plane

                    Source Ticket Aero:
                    https://www.biletik.aero/handbook/blog/chto-sleduet-znat-passazhiru-o-tranzitnoy-zone-v-aeroportu/

                    Everything before passport control is abroad, isn't it? wink
                    1. +1
                      8 February 2020 11: 10
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Everything before passport control is abroad, isn't it?

                      Abroad, until the first step along the descent ramp (Airliner) further the territory of the Russian Federation.
                      Transit zone, this is the territory of the Russian Federation provided for transit passengers, crimes committed in the transit zone are investigated by the authorized bodies of the Russian Federation. In the USA, Canada there is no such thing as a transit zone. The ECHR can interpret as you like. hi
                      1. +1
                        8 February 2020 12: 53
                        Quote: fif21
                        Abroad, until the first step along the descent ramp (Airliner) further the territory of the Russian Federation

                        No.

                        Quote: fif21
                        Transit zone, this is the territory of the Russian Federation provided for transit passengers

                        Yes.

                        Quote: fif21
                        crimes committed in the transit zone are investigated by the authorized bodies of P

                        Yes.

                        To the topic - what crime in this case was committed in the transit zone of the Russian Federation? Megayurist, damn it negative
                      2. +2
                        8 February 2020 17: 35
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        To the topic - what crime in this case was committed in the transit zone of the Russian Federation? Megayurist, damn it
                        - Golovan, with all due respect to you - you are wrong

                        "Federal Law of 08.01.1998 N 3-FZ (as amended on 26.07.2019)" On narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances "
                        "8. Transit through the territory of the Russian Federation of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and their precursors is prohibited."

                        "CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
                        Article 67
                         1. The territory of the Russian Federation includes the territories of its constituent entities, inland waters and the territorial sea, airspace above them. "

                        formally, as soon as she flew into the territory of the Russian Federation with drugs - she became a criminal
                      3. +1
                        8 February 2020 18: 24
                        Quote: your1970
                        as soon as she flew into the territory of the Russian Federation with drugs - she became a criminal

                        That's what people who made decisions thought.

                        To be honest, with all due respect to you - this has nothing to do with real life.

                        The president took it upon himself - like, he decided. He is right, the others are not. Further - they will sort it out down the service. ABC Yes
                      4. 0
                        8 February 2020 18: 30
                        she remained a criminal by the decision of the court - she was not found not guilty, no one canceled her guilt.
                        The President made a decision - "to let go" - absolutely legal within the framework of his powers

                        Criminal Code Article 85. Clemency
                        1. The pardon is carried out by the President of the Russian Federation in relation to an individually defined person.
                        2. The act of clemency of a person, convicted of crimemay be exempted from further serving the sentence or the punishment assigned to him may be reduced or replaced by a milder type of punishment. A person who has served a sentence may be convicted by an act of pardon.
                      5. +1
                        8 February 2020 22: 48
                        sv1970, it is nice to meet at least one person who does not add up to speculation, but cites the text of REGULATORY DOCUMENTS in defense of his position. And a special thank you for the "Federal Law of 08.01.1998 N 3-FZ (as amended on 26.07.2019)" On narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances "- I somehow forgot about it. The only bad thing is that it’s 0, sofa iksperdov cannot be convinced by this, they do not know how to work with primary sources, and they do not want to ...

                        And here is a certain would drew with the decision of the ECHR. Where is the ECHR, and where is Sheremetyevo ?! The decision of the Khimki court looks somehow more impressive.
                  2. 0
                    4 February 2020 03: 31
                    Complement the words of Comrade Jack. There is a well-known decision of the ECHR

                    https://vz.ru/society/2017/3/28/863889.html

                    Which clearly states that the transit zone at Sheremetyevo is not the territory of Russia.

                    And there is the position of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin

                    I want to note in this also the role of the Jerusalem patriarch ... and mother. And you know that the decree on her pardon is signed, itThank God it’s very good for her, did not cross the border of the Russian Federation


                    https://ria.ru/20200130/1564047425.html

                    The question of course is not 100% legally unambiguous, but there is a legal position on it.
                    1. +2
                      8 February 2020 18: 45
                      Quote: rait
                      The question, of course, is not 100% legally unambiguous, but there is a legal position on it.

                      Exactly. thank hi
                2. +10
                  3 February 2020 11: 52
                  Quote: Sadam
                  in my opinion you are dramatizing - for me, and for the author, the stupidity of the situation itself is obvious to give 7 years for 9 grams of hash while the floor of the world smokes it legally and took it not in the territory of the Russian Federation but in the transit zone

                  You’d better advise the Israeli woman to fly through Saudi Arabia - their heads are chopped off for drug trafficking, the Israeli prime minister would have distinguished himself if he had achieved her return to Israel.
                  1. +4
                    3 February 2020 19: 06
                    And they’re doing it right.
                  2. 0
                    4 February 2020 15: 01
                    Or via Singapore. You can still through Thailand - there are such prisons that the living will envy the dead.
              6. +4
                3 February 2020 12: 28
                the fact that a citizen of Israel allows herself such a disrespect for Russia, Putin

                Well, in fairness, Putin and in our country have long been not very respected ..
                And Russia to respect her .. she needs it ?? I also relate to Israel .. how many Russians respect Israel ??
              7. +1
                4 February 2020 00: 29
                do not attribute Netanyahu to Putin - the article clearly states that this cunning Jew did have a lot of bonuses out of the blue
            2. +13
              2 February 2020 14: 39
              Quote: Svarog
              This may also mean that Putin and his entourage do not care about Israel ..


              what do you have to say?
              1. +15
                2 February 2020 14: 48
                what do you have to say?

                smile
                A groys gesheft zolstu hobm mit shoire; here is host zol man ba dir nit fragn, un vos fra fragt zolstu nit hobm - So that you have a big store, but not to buy goods that are, but to ask those that are not.
                1. -2
                  3 February 2020 00: 01
                  Quote: The same Lech
                  what do you have to say?

                  smile
                  A groys gesheft zolstu hobm mit shoire; here is host zol man ba dir nit fragn, un vos fra fragt zolstu nit hobm - So that you have a big store, but not to buy goods that are, but to ask those that are not.

                  shout zo auz dass do auf bayrish sprihst
              2. +5
                2 February 2020 16: 41
                If this is from 17.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX, then Putin spoke without a headgear. The text is not verbatim what the president said.
                www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/61546
              3. +3
                4 February 2020 15: 02
                Quote: Silvestr
                what do you have to say?

              4. 0
                8 February 2020 11: 12
                Quote: Silvestr
                what do you have to say?

                Shaw say full paragraph wassat
            3. 0
              7 February 2020 13: 51
              Very weak move ...
              It is unacceptable at such a high level to discuss the fate of a convicted, finished, foreign drug addict. Just not valid.
              Condemned and point. The zone is her home, she’s a mittens, wait for the right to parole or the replacement of the unserved punishment, continue to take drugs in the Zone, the benefit of them there in abundance.
              From her disgusting face after her release, it can be seen that she smoked a "redhead" in the zone and maybe she took something more seriously.
              Her luggage crossed the border of the Russian Federation, if he had not crossed the border of the Russian Federation, he would not have been inspected.
              And if baggage crossed the border of the Russian Federation, smuggling is complete.
              1. 0
                8 February 2020 11: 15
                Quote: Skubudu
                From her disgusting face after her release, it can be seen that she smoked a "redhead" in the zone and maybe she took something more seriously.

                And in another way, her statement to the ECHR with a lawsuit against the Russian Federation can not be explained!
          2. +28
            2 February 2020 13: 46
            Quote: Tatiana
            This means that she herself, as an Israeli citizen, doesn’t care about Russia as such,

            All this, of course, strengthens the love of ordinary citizens of Russia for the Israelis and their ilk more and more, well done! Yes
            1. +52
              2 February 2020 14: 18
              All this, of course, strengthens the love of ordinary citizens of Russia for the Israelis and their ilk more and more, well done!

              This does not strengthen respect for Putin ... with this supposedly noble act, he once again showed a separation from reality in relation to his citizens ...
              Israel stole and extradited our citizen to the United States to punish the American Themis ... that’s where our guarantor should prove himself ... and here he planted such a pig for our Themis and did not protect our citizen and pardoned the condemned Israeli woman ... no words.
              1. +18
                2 February 2020 14: 21
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                This does not strengthen respect for Putin ... with this supposedly noble act, he once again showed a separation from reality in relation to his citizens ...
                Israel stole and extradited our citizen to the United States to punish the American Themis ... that’s where our guarantor should prove himself ... and here he planted such a pig for our Themis and did not protect our citizen and pardoned the condemned Israeli woman ... no words.

                I won’t even dispute your words.
              2. -2
                2 February 2020 16: 14
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                that's where our guarantor has to prove himself ..

                Imposing a Jewess in lawlessness from a transit flight?
              3. 0
                3 February 2020 11: 15
                Everything is much simpler, they say that this Jewess with gash, the daughter of Beni's personal driver. And of course, a gift from Putin to Bene for the election
              4. +1
                8 February 2020 11: 16
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                This does not strengthen respect for Putin ...

                I agree! Someone has to retire and urgently! hi
            2. 0
              2 February 2020 15: 02
              https://rupres.com/society/syna-deputata-edinorossa-pojmali-s-kilogrammom-geroina-otec-dobilsya-chtoby-ego-otpustili
          3. +32
            2 February 2020 14: 35
            Quote: Tatiana
            the dubbed Israeli Issakhar, even after her release by Putin, defiantly before the journalists publicly did not admit her guilt !!!

            and what should she recognize?
            What they said:
            1. From the speech of the prosecutor in court: "The border of Russia, and with it the Customs Union, she crossed. The import of drugs into the territory of the Customs Union is prohibited. Illegal movement is also prohibited. "
            The Khimki court supported the prosecutor and gave the term.
            2. After the release of Issachar, Putin said: "She did not cross the Russian border! ... Give her my best wishes ... "
            In the end, what happened: she did not commit a crime, was convicted illegally. It remains for her to file for moral compensation in the Russian Federation as a victim of the security forces. hi
            1. -6
              2 February 2020 15: 40
              If Putin said that she did not cross the border, then she did not cross. And the fact that prosecutors making allegations allow themselves there is a new job for the UK laughing
              1. +9
                2 February 2020 22: 27
                A court decision that has entered into force is binding on everyone.
                Putin himself said this, saying that he himself can not do anything, the law says ...
                1. +3
                  2 February 2020 23: 11
                  Quote: Revival
                  A court decision that has entered into force is binding on everyone.
                  Putin himself said this, saying that he himself can not do anything, the law says ...

                  As well as the basis for reviewing this in court (which, in principle, is not an ICE for a judge if the decision is canceled) of a higher instance, plus work for the committee members to prevent abuse of power by the border guards and others like them, then removing the traces of the TFR and the prosecutors who conducted this case and etc. (this is how it should be by law)
              2. +1
                4 February 2020 11: 04
                what do prosecutors allow themselves
                and don’t say, they’re engaged in garbage instead of planting for reposts in VK
            2. 0
              2 February 2020 22: 09
              She did not cross the state border. But her customs baggage crossed ...
          4. -3
            2 February 2020 18: 41
            Citizen Issakhar did not import drugs into the Russian Federation. The hash was in the luggage, to which she did not have access. Hashish is legal in India and Israel. Strictly speaking, she did not commit an offense
            1. +1
              2 February 2020 22: 15
              Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
              Citizen Issakhar did not import drugs into the Russian Federation. The hash was in the luggage, to which she did not have access. Hashish is legal in India and Israel. Strictly speaking, she did not commit an offense

              Did you understand what you wrote?
              1. The legality of hashish "over the hill" is generally out of place. She was tried for a crime committed on the territory of the Russian Federation.
              2. And the baggage that crossed the customs border of the Russian Federation (otherwise I can’t imagine how would have been discovered in it) whose?
              1. -8
                2 February 2020 22: 37
                Quote: tolancop
                And the baggage that crossed the customs border of the Russian Federation

                Customs border - the border of the territory of the state, within the framework of which a single customs legislation is in force. The customs border does not always coincide with the state / geographical border
                More details: https://customsforum.ru/glossary/tamozhennaya-granitsa.html

                In this case, baggage to the state border didn't cross. Then everything seems to be simple request
                1. +4
                  3 February 2020 20: 38
                  A few words in addition to your litter. The trouble is, since the boots will begin to sharpen the cake, and the cobbler will bake pies. I am not going to go into details, let critics look at the general and generic objects of smuggling. And then, for the sake of interest, they will ask themselves the question: what wrongfulness and encroachment on what legal relations (in relation to the generic object of smuggling) are carried in transit from India to Israel, 9 grams of hashish. I emphasize, in transit, bypassing the customs territory of the Russian Federation. Which was identified with the sovereign territory of Russia. Let's put it this way: not undeniably. Separately, the answer to Tatyana: recognition of the queen of evidence (A.Ya. Vyshinsky). And about a million through this recognition of the executed.
                  And not for the sake of teaching. Clemency as an institution does not include recognition and apology. It does not address issues of guilt and innocence at all.
                  The answer to the opponents of GDP.
                  Russia for one blessed one received the Alexandrovskoe courtyard, out of the blue, Israel's support in the dispute with Poland. Israel revised the policy of extradition of Russian tourists from Israel. This is the case when, according to the Jewish poet: "And defeat from victory, you yourself cannot tell."
                  1. 0
                    8 February 2020 11: 20
                    Quote: Bukhalov
                    Russia for one blessed one received the Alexandrovskoe courtyard, out of the blue, Israel's support in the dispute with Poland. Israel revised the policy of extradition of Russian tourists from Israel. This is the case when, according to the Jewish poet: "And defeat from victory, you yourself cannot tell."

                    The illusion of victory. hi
          5. +5
            2 February 2020 21: 39
            As far as I heard, she admitted custody, but denied smuggling. In principle, there is logic in her words: she followed transit and, obviously, did not plan to spread hash in Russia.
            She was given 7,5 years on two counts: for storage and smuggling.

            Yes, of course, politics intervened here. Israel can only be congratulated for the way it fights for its citizens. Obviously, this girl is just a fool, not a drug dealer.

            PS I am against any drugs in any quantities.
          6. +5
            3 February 2020 12: 35
            Quote: Tatiana
            This means that she herself, as an Israeli citizen, doesn’t care about Russia as such, including Putin! She or someone else from Israel will repeat this and again!

            As a normal sober-minded person, you are well aware that this gesture was not made to this citizen, but for the sake of developing relations with Israel, and, most likely, in an unspoken sphere. And with Maria Dapirka, not everything is so straightforward. Vietnam did not let her go because it does not want a precedent. The verdict was passed and sounded to ostracize the rest of the drug addicts, further work will be done on it in undercover mode. People associated with this area say that usually in such cases he will serve 3-4 years there, then she will be deported to the Russian Federation under the obligation to marinate her in the "zone" for a couple of years. That's where everything will calm down. And to our girls a note - how to trust foreign boyfriends in their thirst for easy money cut. It is clear that she will adhere to the version that all the "gypsies" planted on her, but they rarely confess under these articles. Drug addiction in general has been the scourge of our country in recent years. The harsh sentences for marketing in Asia should be an example for us how to do it.
            1. +3
              3 February 2020 12: 41
              Quote: Den717
              Addiction is generally the scourge of our country in recent years. Cruel marketing sentences in Asia should be an example to us.

              I agree with you.
          7. +6
            3 February 2020 20: 18
            Quote: Tatiana
            the pardoned Israeli Issakhar even after she was liberated by Putin defiantly before the journalists publicly did not admit her guilt !!!

            she thinks if she was pardoned, why plead guilty? considers himself innocent and innocently condemned. then write the memories. still get money for it, royalties.
          8. 0
            5 February 2020 20: 26
            "the pardoned Israeli Issachar, even after her release by Putin, demonstratively in front of the journalists, publicly did not admit her guilt! This means that she herself, as a citizen of Israel, does not care about Russia, as such, and about Putin ! "
            - on the promised land, weed is smoked almost without exception, yes, for them this is not a crime.
          9. 0
            8 February 2020 23: 22
            She brought nothing to Russia! I didn’t leave the transit zone! I had no access to luggage! Baggage flew from Delhi to Tel Aviv! Both there and there are 9,5 grams of hashish allowed! Now Russia will have to explain why in Russia a violation usually involves a fine, the Israeli woman was punished as a killer!
        2. +6
          2 February 2020 16: 12
          in Israel on vatsap walks this:

      2. +1
        2 February 2020 22: 21
        Who are your "friends" for you? Names, Surnames? I can shit too, but when you shit, please - answer for your words.
      3. +1
        5 February 2020 20: 56
        To friends - EVERYTHING, to enemies - THE LAW!
    2. +60
      2 February 2020 13: 14
      Quote: frizzy
      That's right! Putin does not abandon his .....

      This is actually a disgrace! Russia asked to exchange this Jewess for our citizen Alexei Burkov, who was arrested in Israel for hacking. In the article, for some reason, not a word about it. But Israel refused the exchange and extradited Burkova to the United States. And after that, the president personally pardoned Issakhar. So things are not done, adoni Putin am
      1. -8
        2 February 2020 16: 17
        Quote: kjhg
        This is actually a disgrace! Russia asked to exchange this Jewess for our citizen Alexei Burkov, who was arrested in Israel for hacking.

        Do you know exactly who agreed on what?
    3. +16
      2 February 2020 13: 56
      Yeah, the next drug courier from Israel can now safely go to Russia, or through it even a ton of drugs can be taken — they’ll pardon me in Russia, deport them home, and ask for forgiveness at the border! And even for illegal arrest and compensation will be paid! !!
      1. +1
        2 February 2020 15: 44
        Come on, how many drugs that were brought from Argentina through diplomatic mail, so many and a thousand hash lovers will not master. And what, they planted someone?
    4. +2
      2 February 2020 16: 40
      Quote: frizzy
      That's right! Putin is not abandoning his ...


      Pa to anyone. He is a bastard, and Khodora also has mercy. Also visible from the worship of Israel.
      A sort of bad Israel Israel our Putin.
    5. -3
      2 February 2020 22: 18
      Yes you are a rat.
    6. 0
      3 February 2020 06: 06
      And how to explain this?
      10 Israelis were held for 8 hours at a Moscow airport, where they took fingerprints and DNA samples, and then put them on a plane in the opposite direction.
      https://www.vesty.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5669928,00.html
      1. +2
        3 February 2020 06: 52
        And this is our response to Israel's "friendly" actions.
  2. +13
    2 February 2020 12: 46
    "Someone just had a little more than the established amount of the drug with them.", - do many VO participants carry drugs "a little more / less than prescribed"? laughing
    1. +14
      2 February 2020 12: 54
      Quote: Operator
      "Someone just had a little more than the established amount of the drug with them.", - do many VO participants carry drugs "a little more / less than prescribed"? laughing

      Judging by some posts in some topics, a lot
  3. +33
    2 February 2020 12: 47
    Actually, it is a disgrace for our country to raise the issue of the imprisonment of some drug addict to the level of an international sensation, instead of solving it at least at the level of law enforcement agencies of the two countries. And this situation looks absolutely ridiculous against the background of those Russian citizens who are serving sentences abroad for such crimes, and even our Foreign Ministry is not very concerned about their fate. As always, the proverb is true - "You can go into history, or you can get stuck." We seem to have chosen the second option once again ...
    1. +3
      2 February 2020 13: 42
      Actually .no need to hang noodles on uhi ..
      The Israeli authorities and the Israeli public in a single impulse raised the Banner of the struggle for the liberation of an Israeli citizen .. And the lawyers, both Israeli and Russian. What does the country of Russia have to do with it ??
      The Russian side - on January 23, Putin met with the girl’s mother,. after which he noted that “Naama is from a very good, decent family,” and promised that “everything will be fine.” The Russian leader discussed the situation with Issahar with Netanyahu. Russia went to meet the requests of the Israeli authorities and thank God ..
      "" G ... I'm a country "as the girl's mother put it in her hearts (you can understand the mother) .. (“ We don't give a date on purpose, we just don't have the right now, ”as if apologizing, intervenes from behind assistant judge. Jaffa Issachar steps aside and whispers in hearts: "Fucking terrible country! She hasn't seen anybody for three weeks! No phone, no letters ... It's ridiculous!" "I explained to her, but my mother seems to understand and no matter how she understands, "the translator says in confusion to the lawyer Paleyev." "Mother Issakhar could not hold back her tears:" Fucking country! She hasn't seen anyone for three weeks! No phone, no letters ... absurd! "she said in despair."
      https://zona.media/article/2019/10/10/naama
      https://nv.ua/world/countries/za-chto-putin-pomiloval-izrailtyanku-naamu-issahar-poslednie-novosti-50067250.html
      So every country would protect its citizens ..
      But Israel did not satisfy the request of Russia to not extradite Burkov to the United States - even before the sentencing, an Israeli citizen, the Russians suggested that the Israelis exchange Issakhar for Russian hacker Alexei Burkov, who is suspected of credit card fraud.

      Israel did not take this step, since by that time the court had decided to extradite it to the United States, at the request of which Burkov was arrested ...
      1. +11
        2 February 2020 16: 17
        It’s disgusting and somehow disgusting in my heart from such an act of the guarantor.
        1. 0
          8 February 2020 18: 07
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          It’s disgusting and somehow disgusting in my heart from such an act of the guarantor.
          - It was with these words that many responded to the release of Nadezhda Savchenko ....
          then the truth - when Nadyukha began to destroy the Verkhovna Rada, the same many were very surprised at how they managed to calculate it so ...
          To pardon Nadyuha - it’s enough that the Hero of Ukraine is in prison in Ukraine on political grounds. And this is not evening ....
      2. +11
        2 February 2020 17: 55
        Quote: To be or not to be
        What does the country of Russia have to do with it ??

        Despite the fact that this is not a presidential affair. And she did not stay much with us - for prevention, it was possible and longer to let go so that the Israelis knew their place.
        Quote: To be or not to be
        that "Naama from a very good, decent family," and promised that "everything will be fine."

        Our president froze stupidity when he met with the mother of a drug addict - it would be better if he met V. Booth in the USA when he spoke there at the UN, this was more useful.
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Israel did not take this step, since by that time the court had decided to extradite it to the United States, at the request of which Burkov was arrested ...

        Moreover, it was impossible to let this addict go as a step of goodwill; Israel did not deserve it.
        So what is your deep Jewish sadness - I didn’t understand something ...
        1. 0
          2 February 2020 21: 41
          Israel does not protect its citizens, justly convicted criminals who have committed crimes in Russia. Moreover, he issued them at the request of Russia. And the girl was condemned brazenly, powerlessly and for nothing. And Putin admitted it, there was no way out.
          Are you "offended for the state"? You suggest taking hostages, just in case? So that it could be exchanged for a thief who trades in credit card numbers and caused damage in the United States for 40 million greens, who has already pleaded guilty and received 10 years instead of the threatened 40? In Russia, he would simply pay off and continue his work. After all, to steal abroad is to avenge "the state" ...
          1. +4
            2 February 2020 21: 57
            The Israelis who fit in with the drug addict (the daughter of Bibi’s personal driver) are suckers, they were divorced by Netanyahu in exchange for transferring the Alexander Compound, and the Russian hacker is just an excuse bully
            1. -3
              2 February 2020 22: 07
              The courtyard was not already Israeli territory. And Bibi is a fine fellow, he pulled the girl out, didn't leave in "fu..ng country", and raised the rating. And the pretext was for Russia to plant the girl.
              Envy silently.
              1. +1
                2 February 2020 22: 10
                Israel for 12 years refused to re-register the compound to its rightful owner - had to apply the special measure laughing
                1. -3
                  2 February 2020 22: 12
                  But what does Burkov have to do with it? Is it all because of the compound? Then even more nasty.
                  1. +8
                    3 February 2020 00: 52
                    We do not need foreign drug addicts in Russia.
                    1. -4
                      3 February 2020 09: 56
                      Those. There is no objection to the question HOW it was made. Chtd
                      1. +5
                        3 February 2020 10: 37
                        Here before me, everyone (except you, apparently) has already chewed classified information - Vnukovo is located within the borders of the Russian Federation laughing
          2. +2
            3 February 2020 11: 43
            Quote: sp77ark
            And the girl was condemned brazenly, powerlessly and for nothing. And Putin admitted it, there was no way out.

            It’s complete nonsense - they planted it quite legally, and Putin simply decided to promote among the Israelis so that they would at least somehow support Russia after they began to accuse us of unleashing the Second World War. That is why documents began to emerge about the Polish ambassador, about the participation of Poles in the Holocaust, and some more details of the participation of Europeans in the extermination of Jews. I believe that he competently plays this trump card, only here and here the drug addict, we do not understand, especially given the fact that the Israelis are constantly spoiling us.
            Are you "offended for the state"?

            No, because Putin is flirting with the Israelis, who will throw him at the first opportunity.
            In Russia, he would simply pay off and continue his work. After all, to steal abroad is to avenge "the state" ...

            Why didn't Browder and Magnitsky pay off, since everything is so simple in Russia? You are lying, even though you know that one year in Mordovian camps costs five years in prison somewhere in Denmark or France.
    2. +10
      2 February 2020 14: 00
      Not us, but the great helmsman co-comrades. Separate the political regime from the people
      1. +1
        2 February 2020 14: 37
        ...... The Elusive Avengers (1966) - ...
        "The people with great joy and love meet their liberators - the free army of Batka Burnash. Red commissars are in impotent anger ...."

        "The relationship between society and the state has always been contradictory. The main reason for all the contradictions is that society as a social entity appeals to morality, and the state as a political system to interests. Hence the collision between morality and politics.
        https://www.socionauki.ru/journal/articles/134097/
      2. +2
        2 February 2020 17: 59
        Quote: Nonna
        Not us, but the great helmsman co-comrades

        No, it’s our people who choose such rulers for themselves, so learn to be honest with yourself to begin with. Maybe in the future you will make fewer mistakes.
        Quote: Nonna
        Separate the political regime from the people

        You can separate it, but the percentage of those who voted for it during the elections proved that our people ignore your opinion in the majority.
    3. +3
      2 February 2020 14: 04
      There is one subtlety - at the moment, the Russian Federation is negotiating with Israel on the return of the former Jerusalem property of the Russian Orthodox Church, which Khrushchev sold on barter for Israeli oranges. Most likely, the drug addict was exchanged for Israel’s consent to return the building to Russian state property (paid, of course).

      A dumb Russian hacker who hacked into a lot of card accounts in the USA, went abroad to rest and extradited by Israel as part of a criminal case.
      1. +5
        2 February 2020 14: 28
        A dumb Russian hacker who hacked into a lot of card accounts in the USA, went abroad to rest and extradited by Israel as part of a criminal case.

        This stupid Russian hacker, as you put it, is our citizen and must answer according to our laws for his sins that still need to be proved in court ... and he was just stolen in Israel and given to the Americans on the basis of their suspicions ... which are not known to be the case you will sew.
        I am sure the Americans will now be confronted with the option of blackmailing him between the long term and his guilty plea ... a proven way to break a person.
        1. +5
          2 February 2020 14: 34
          On December 30, 2019, property rights to the Alexander Compound (located 70 meters from Golgotha, where the Church of the Holy Sepulcher was built) were transferred by Israel to the state property of Russia.

          That's why the Israelis got their addict back a month later laughing

          PS At the end of the 19th century, after Russia acquired the territory of the future Alexander Metochion from the Copts as a result of archaeological excavations, the foundations of the Loan Gates (the city gates of Jerusalem through which Jesus Christ was executed) and the foundation of the Byzantine Church of the Resurrection of the Lord of the 4th century AD were discovered there.
          1. +3
            2 February 2020 14: 40
            That's why the Israelis got their addict back a month later
            Your version has the right to exist ... but it does not cancel the obligation of our guarantor to protect our citizens abroad ... unfortunately, article 15 ... clause 4 of the Constitution of Russia gives Putin the opportunity not to exert much effort to protect our citizens abroad.
            This is precisely why I explain Putin’s indifference to WADA’s tricks in relation to our honest athletes.
      2. 0
        2 February 2020 16: 20
        Quote: Operator
        Most likely, the drug addict was exchanged for Israel’s consent to return the building to Russian state property (paid, of course).

        Well, they sold it for oranges and not just
        1. +5
          2 February 2020 16: 38
          The Aleksandrovskoye Compound was not included in the number of those sold on barter, since at that time it was owned by the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad. Then the courtyard was illegally taken over by a certain "Orthodox" foundation based in Germany. After the reunification of the ROC MP and the ROCOR in 2007, the State Property Committee of the Russian Federation, as the legal successor to the state institution of the Russian Empire, the Imperial Orthodox Palestinian Society, began the process of restoring its rights to the courtyard, which ended on December 30, 2019.

          Other buildings and structures of the so-called barter were sold by barter. The new compound in Jerusalem, on the redemption of which there are separate negotiations.
      3. +2
        2 February 2020 18: 04
        Quote: Operator
        There is one subtlety - at the moment the Russian Federation is negotiating with Israel on the return of the former Jerusalem property of the Russian Orthodox Church,

        I understand that this is important, but it’s hardly advisable to tie issues of church property to clemency of a drug addict, even in moral terms.
        Quote: Operator
        Dumb Russian hacker, hacked into a lot of card accounts in the USA, rushed abroad to rest

        I completely agree with the assessment, as well as with the fact that he knew what he was going on, and the American bunk would be a lesson to him. And our other wiseacres will think about it before they go on a crime in the IT sphere.
        1. -3
          2 February 2020 18: 17
          State property, while 70 meters from Calvary - the center of the universe laughing
    4. +9
      2 February 2020 14: 21
      We seem to have once again chosen the second option ...

      Not us, but Putin ... we have repeatedly expressed our indignation at the thefts and seizures of our citizens abroad ... and things are still there.
      1. +3
        2 February 2020 14: 41
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        ...And nothing has changed.

        and nothing will change, unfortunately!
      2. 0
        2 February 2020 18: 36
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Not us, but Putin ...

        But do not we choose Putin - or at least most of us? Maybe you shouldn’t deny our choice, but just admit that we are all strong with a backward mind?
    5. +3
      2 February 2020 14: 53
      WE? ...... let's separate the grains from the chaff)))
  4. +4
    2 February 2020 12: 47
    Dapirka was sentenced to life imprisonment

    Nice girl. I could enjoy life, bring up children. And now in life imprisonment in another country. It’s hard for her.
    Dapirku framed her boyfriend - Nigerian

    She probably loved him if she went to such stupidity by contacting drugs. No matter how strong the feelings are, the law cannot be broken.
    1. +13
      2 February 2020 13: 41
      Quote: Arlen
      She probably loved him if she went to such stupidity by contacting drugs.

      I put the drugs in her baggage on the sly, and that's it. No normal person will be lucky with this poison, given what they give in Asia for this.
    2. +9
      2 February 2020 14: 08
      Quote: Arlen
      She probably loved him if she went to such stupidity by contacting drugs.

      Of course, all our girls adore Nigerians for their skin color, good breeding and education, as well as for the ability to earn money by other people's lives!
      1. +3
        2 February 2020 18: 07
        Quote: businessv
        Of course, all our girls adore Nigerians for their skin color, good breeding and education, as well as for the ability to earn money by other people's lives!

        Exactly - it is then that they tell everyone about their "unhappy love", although we know in any wilderness what these "African macho" are doing. I feel sorry for our compatriot, but somehow I have little faith in her naivety.
    3. +2
      2 February 2020 15: 18
      I at one time accidentally became interested in this matter, if you believe the girl’s version, then she doesn’t have a brain, not even a chicken
    4. +3
      2 February 2020 16: 22
      Quote: Arlen
      She probably loved him if she went to such stupidity by contacting drugs. No matter how strong the feelings are, the law cannot be broken.

      girls alone cannot be allowed into foreign countries. everywhere there are enough crooks earning on their naivety.
    5. +1
      3 February 2020 00: 44
      brought her a suitcase for luggage.
      that she didn’t know drugs there, she was used blindly
    6. -1
      3 February 2020 14: 34
      The inkwell is dumb. There she is dear!
  5. +19
    2 February 2020 12: 47
    Russia, a country of contrasts, who is for hashish on the bunks, and someone with coke and at large.
  6. +4
    2 February 2020 12: 48
    Politics, where it is needed, is promoted with good deeds, and where it does not really need it, it is immoral, soulless and indifferent ...
  7. +6
    2 February 2020 12: 50
    Kvachkov is dangerous to the authorities, at least he was.
    1. +4
      2 February 2020 12: 59
      For Chubais, he is dangerous, and the red-haired Tolik is not all power.
      1. -1
        2 February 2020 13: 04
        The red cat is already retired. And cats do not live long, especially in retirement. And this cat breed is a long-liver, they see it is well fed.
        1. +1
          2 February 2020 15: 24
          Redhead is not even retired, unlike his accomplices, he is the head of a large state corporation, with not weak turnover
      2. +4
        2 February 2020 13: 09
        For Chubais, he is dangerous, and the red-haired Tolik is not all power.

        So the point is not in Chubais alone, but in the fact that there are a lot of people like him and for each his own Kvachkov.
      3. +16
        2 February 2020 13: 19
        Quote: Kleber
        For Chubais, he is dangerous, and the red-haired Tolik is not all power.

        Do you believe that Kvachkov attempted to attack Chubais, but he, like the boy of yesterday, did not succeed?
        1. -4
          2 February 2020 14: 07
          No wonder there is a division into theorists and practitioners, each one is strong in its own.
          1. +3
            2 February 2020 16: 54
            Quote: Passing by
            No wonder there is a division into theorists and practitioners, each one is strong in its own.

            Is this Kvachkov theorist?
            1. -1
              2 February 2020 19: 58
              Well, commander, leader. Let me remind you that before all his wars he graduated from the highest command, then the Frunze Academy. This guaranteed positions for senior officers. So obviously he didn’t fight as a captain, not in a field, he didn’t take off sentinels with a knife, he didn’t lay mines, but he sat in the headquarters, supervised the same field workers, analyzed, generalized experience, wrote scientific works that moved military science. As a saboteur miner, he is an obvious theorist, IMHO.
              1. 0
                2 February 2020 23: 06
                Quote: Passing by
                Well, commander, leader.

                So who did he command in your opinion? Motorized gunners? Autobatom? Stroybatom? Or all the same, special forces?
                Quote: Passing by
                As a saboteur miner, he is an obvious theorist,

                And how, in your opinion, could only a "theoretician", who does not understand anything about sabotage work, mine work, etc., lead a special unit?
                I can’t imagine how I could teach my subordinates something that I myself can’t do? Or I can, but .., purely theoretically. Nonsense.
                1. -2
                  3 February 2020 03: 00
                  I don’t know what structure you have there, and what kind of control levels there, but typically, there are grassroots management structures, they work directly at the level of people, and there are higher ones that work at the level of structural units. There is no need for the colonel, the head of the structural unit, to learn how to put mines for Private Vasya, for this there is a company, but he knows the company mines with his hands. And he knows them much better than ordinary Vasya, but much worse than Sergeant Vasily, a mineral from God, who, over the years of independent work, has learned all the nuances.
                  And the colonel touched the mines with his hands for a long time, the captain, and there’s nothing to say about nuances, he has his own nuances in management, tactics, etc., an order of magnitude more what mines are there.
                  Here, in fact, on the nuances of the explosive device, Kvachkov got into a mess, did not check the saltpeter, received not a zilch result.
                  1. -3
                    3 February 2020 03: 24
                    Understand, I do not dispute the professionalism of Kvachkov. only for some reason you think that Kvachkov's profession is "James Bond", but this is not so, his profession, conventionally, is "commander of a sabotage regiment." And now, if in this position he received an order to eliminate a certain armored car with a certain red-haired passenger, the operation would have been just perfect. But no, Kvachkov considered that he was both a Swiss and a reaper and a gamer on a pipe, the result was a foregone conclusion.
                  2. +1
                    3 February 2020 12: 13
                    Quote: Passing by
                    Here, in fact, on the nuances of the explosive device, Kvachkov got into a mess, did not check the saltpeter, received not a zilch result.

                    Your comments are just nonsense of an amateur, so do not judge what you do not know, especially since you yourself said
                    Quote: Passing by
                    I don’t know what structure you have there,

                    By the way, there was not even a conditionally "commander of a sabotage regiment" - such structures did not exist.
                2. 0
                  3 February 2020 12: 10
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Or all the same, special forces?

                  By the way, they were armed with portable nuclear weapons that could be delivered abroad - where else was it possible, except for our strategic nuclear forces and OTP.
              2. +1
                3 February 2020 12: 07
                Quote: Passing by
                So obviously he didn’t fight as a captain, not in a field, he didn’t take off sentinels with a knife, he didn’t lay mines, but he sat in the headquarters, supervised the same field workers, analyzed, generalized experience, wrote scientific works that moved military science. As a saboteur miner, he is an obvious theorist, IMHO.

                Actually, you are shamelessly lying about the respected V.V. Kvachkov:
                For the first time such competitions were held in the Pskov region in 1975. At that time, the GRU special forces units were probably more secret units than the Strategic Missile Forces units. We can say that they were the state's superstrategic reserve. Naturally, very few people knew about "races" (this is how the special forces themselves call the competition among themselves) even in the top leadership of the Armed Forces. Twenty-eight years ago, the GSVG reconnaissance group, commanded by senior lieutenant Vladimir Kvachkov, defeated. Subsequently, this officer became one of the best special forces scouts. He has shown himself brilliantly in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, the Balkans and Chechnya.
                For a long time, it was the special purpose brigade deployed in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany that was considered the best in the Soviet Army. The soldiers of this unit (which NATO knew about) could in a matter of hours "put on the ears" the whole of Western Europe, paralyzing state communications and control systems of strategic objects without any nuclear strikes.

                RG "SOYUZ. Belarus-Russia" dated July 17, 2003, No. 28 (128).
                By the way, V.V. Kvachkov was one of the best chief of staffs in the special forces of the USSR, and in order to become such, one must know and be able to do everything himself, and this will be confirmed by all who served with him.
                1. -2
                  3 February 2020 13: 33
                  So obviously he didn’t fight as a captain, not in a field, he didn’t take off sentries with a knife, he didn’t lay mines, but he was in headquarters

                  Quote: ccsr
                  Actually, you are shamelessly lying about the respected V.V. Kvachkov:
                  Let's see who's lying and juggling here. Your words:
                  Quote: ccsr
                  in 1975. then, very few people even in the top leadership of the Armed Forces knew about "horse racing" (as the special forces themselves call the competition among themselves). Twenty-eight years ago, the GSVG reconnaissance group, commanded by senior lieutenant Vladimir Kvachkov, defeated. Subsequently, this officer became one of the best special forces scouts. He has shown himself brilliantly in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, the Balkans and Chechnya.

                  My words:
                  Quote: Passing by
                  And the colonel touched the mines for a long time, the captain
                  Well ok, we’re getting old, is this my terrible lie? Your words:
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Subsequently, this officer became one of the best special forces scouts. He has shown himself brilliantly in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, the Balkans and Chechnya.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  For a long time, it was the special forces brigade deployed in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany that was considered the best in the Soviet Army ..
                  From your manipulative chain of facts, it follows that all these years he continued to work in the field, "lay mines". But this is your blatant lie:
                  In 1978-1981 - student of the Military Academy. M.V. Frunze (graduated with honors). Since 1981 - in the intelligence department of the Leningrad Military District. He served in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany (GSVG) and the Trans-Baikal Military District. Participated in military conflicts in Afghanistan (1983), Azerbaijan (1990), Tajikistan (1992). In 1986-1989, he held the post of chief of staff of the brigade in the GSVG, since 1989 he commanded the 15th separate GRU special-purpose brigade in the Turkestan military district.
                  Since 1978, Kvachkov began to advance along the staff line and he went through all his wars in this capacity, not in the field.
                  By the way, V.V. Kvachkov was one of the best chief of staffs in the special forces of the USSR, and in order to become such, one must know and be able to do everything himself, and this will be confirmed by all who served with him.
                  Rave. Why would a rocket designer Korolyov know and control every "nut" on a rocket? This is called manual control, the most ineffective of the possible, because you cannot grasp the immensity. An effective leader delegates authority, other people are engaged in "nuts". Yes, in his younger years he also twisted "nuts", but since then the "nuts" have changed, new NUANCES have appeared, and his knowledge of "nuts" is pretty outdated and forgotten.
                  1. +2
                    3 February 2020 18: 55
                    Quote: Passing by
                    Well ok, we’re getting old, is this my terrible lie? Your words:

                    Of course - those who have passed this school do not lose their skills until the end of their lives.
                    Quote: Passing by
                    From your manipulative chain of facts, it follows that all these years he continued to work in the field, "lay mines".

                    In fact, his VUS implies intelligence and sabotage training, and "intelligence" in this complex profession is preferred. By the way, the brigade has a chief of the engineering service, and he is responsible for this training, and the chief of staff or brigade commander is at a higher level.
                    Quote: Passing by
                    Since 1978, Kvachkov began to advance along the staff line and he went through all his wars in this capacity, not in the field.

                    Lies, because he started from the lowest position - the commander of a reconnaissance group, and he became the chief of staff of the brigade only in the GSVG:
                    Kvachkov served as chief of staff of the GSVG brigade (from 1986 to 1989) and commander of the 15th separate GRU special forces brigade in the Turkestan military district (since 1989).

                    Quote: Passing by
                    Rave. Why would a rocket designer Korolyov know and control every "nut" on a rocket?

                    Do you even have any idea how the design engineer differs from the maintenance engineer? You think you have no idea ...
                    Quote: Passing by
                    Yes, in his younger years he also twisted the "nuts", but since then the "nuts" have changed, new NUANCES have appeared, and his knowledge of "nuts" is pretty outdated and forgotten.

                    This is an amateurish lie, if only because V.V. Kvachkov developed more than twenty years ago the theory and methods of using special operations forces in future wars, but some fools did not want to listen to him then for a number of reasons. And then "suddenly" the Hero of Russia A. Prokhorenko, who died in Syria, turned out to be an active officer from the special operations forces, which confirmed the outstanding military talent of V. V. Kvachkov, who substantiated the need to create such a structure.
                    If he forgot something, then you never knew ...
                    1. -1
                      3 February 2020 20: 34
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Lies, because he started from the lowest position - commander of a reconnaissance group

                      here again distort, commander of the reconnaissance group he was to the academy, and after whom was he? Tell me if the topic.
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Lies ... he became the chief of staff of the brigade only in the GSVG:
                      And what, are they right from the reconnaissance group being thrown at the headquarters? Likely at first there were steps, such as deputy here, deputy there, and only then the chief of staff? Since 1981, he grew up on the staff line, deputy, and for five years, by 1986, he had grown to the headquarters. What looks like a lie here? Or do you think that he was thrown either at the reconnaissance group, then at the deputy commander, and vice versa, and so on for five years? That would be extremely strange and illogical.
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Do you even have any idea how the design engineer differs from the maintenance engineer? You think you have no idea ...

                      According to your logic, the chief operating officer (or Kvachkov as a colonel) can replace any subordinate specialist. My life experience says no. I think it is correct to correlate the chief process engineer of a small plant with the operating engineer. So, the chief technologist set up thermoplastic automatic machines for a long, dreary, and the result was not very likely to grow professionally on other automatic machines, and any adjuster who practices them every day does everything quickly and with the best quality every day. It seems that the casting principle is one to one, and their knowledge is not comparable, but you don’t know the specific nuances, and the result is not very good. And no general store of knowledge does not save here.
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Quote: Passing by
                      Yes, in his younger years he also twisted the "nuts", but since then the "nuts" have changed, new NUANCES have appeared, and his knowledge of "nuts" is pretty outdated and forgotten.

                      This is an amateurish lie, if only because VVKvachkov developed more than twenty years ago the theory and methods of using special operations forces in future wars

                      I don’t understand your logic at all, did I at least hint at the role of Kvachkov as a theorist? And even in no case do I dispute the practical significance of his theoretical achievements. For I don’t even know what they consist of. I'm talking about a specific knowledge of the nuances of iron, i.e. nuances of applied character, sapper business. Not tactics, not strategies. Work hands with mines. Is it clear now?
                      Quote: ccsr
                      If he forgot something, then you never knew ...

                      What kind of bad tricks, and what have I got to do with this, do we discuss me?
                      The question is, did Kvachkov know mine business in his youth - it is likely that he knew if his unit was the first in the exercises, and didn’t forget important nuances by old age. And the harsh reality gives an unambiguous answer to this question - he forgot it, because his bomb worked in a very weakened form, i.e. complete failure of the operation from the lost nuance.
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2020 12: 40
                        Quote: Passing by
                        here again, distort, he was the commander of the reconnaissance group before the academy,

                        He graduated from the faculty of intelligence at the academy - they take the best there. Or do you think he lost all his skills at the academy?
                        Quote: Passing by
                        And what, are they right from the reconnaissance group being thrown at the headquarters?

                        Do not smack nonsense - better study his biography, then you will find out that he was the squad leader before this appointment.
                        Quote: Passing by
                        I think it is correct to correlate the chief process engineer of a small plant with the operating engineer.

                        I think that you are simply talking nonsense after you have shown yourself to be a complete amateur in matters of special intelligence, in which Kvachkov was one of the best in the country.
                        Quote: Passing by
                        Work hands with mines. Is it clear now?

                        What makes you think that Kvachkov generally participated in the assassination attempt on Chubais and allegedly laid mines there?
                        Quote: Passing by
                        those. complete failure of the operation from the lost nuance.

                        Nonsense is complete - no one has proven that Kvachkov was undermining Chubais. Have you even studied the case materials?
                      2. -2
                        4 February 2020 17: 37
                        Your argument is understandable, since an amateur in intelligence, then all the 100% facts cited magically lose their power. Typical manipulative receiver.
                        Once again, if you are such a connoisseur, then show on the facts that Kvachkov didn’t just grow old DIVANTAGING something there, and that was 30 years before the well-known attempt to undermine, but in real wars he was directly involved in mine-blasting. Those. prove that to this day he owned mine explosives not as a theorist, but as a practitioner.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Do not smack nonsense - better study his biography, then you will find out that he was the squad leader before this appointment.

                        That seems to be a fact, but like all your arguments, it proves absolutely nothing. What squad? If I ran along the mountains with the DRG, this is one thing, if I was sitting in the headquarters, then this is the exact opposite.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        What makes you think that Kvachkov generally participated in the assassination attempt on Chubais and allegedly laid mines there?

                        I’m an amateur, I always have 2 + 2 = 4, this is for you, super profile, the result is unpredictable ...
                      3. +1
                        4 February 2020 19: 33
                        Quote: Passing by
                        and this was 30 years before the well-known attempt to undermine, but in real wars he was directly involved in the mine-explosive business.

                        Firstly, it is not necessary to whistle that the explosion was carried out by Kvachkov - this was not proved in court. And secondly, the mathematics professor should not constantly show his ability to put in a column - he operates in other categories, teaching mathematics, and to which you simply have not grown.
                        Quote: Passing by
                        What squad? If I ran along the mountains with the DRG, this is one thing, if I was sitting in the headquarters, then this is the exact opposite.

                        Study his biography, then you will find out for yourself.
                        Quote: Passing by
                        I'm an amateur

                        Could not be repeated - this is so obvious ....
                      4. -2
                        4 February 2020 20: 19
                        Clearly, clear arguments and facts are not able to provide, so you turn on manipulative techniques, "I'm smart, you are a fool", "look for yourself" ... So your intellectual level cleared up, and at first it was so important to swell your cheeks ... wink
                      5. +1
                        4 February 2020 20: 31
                        Quote: Passing by
                        that's why you turn on manipulative tricks, "I'm smart, you're a fool", "look for yourself" ..

                        Indeed, only a complete eccentric with the letter "m" cannot find information about V.V. Kvachkov:
                        Born on August 5, 1948 in the village. Kraskino of Primorsky Krai in the family of a serviceman. His childhood passed in Ussuriysk, where his father was transferred to serve. In 1959 he entered the Far Eastern Federal University, after which in 1966 he was enrolled in the Kiev VOKU.
                        .....
                        At the end of KVOKU in 1969 he went to Pskov to a special brigade, where he served as the group commander, platoon commander. Then he served in the GSVG again in the special forces brigade. GSVG changed to ZabVO, served as a battalion commander in the village of Mirny. In 1978-1981 - listener of VAK them. Frunze. Since 1981 - senior officer in the intelligence department of the LenVO. In 1983 - commander of a special forces brigade in a limited contingent of Soviet troops in the DRA. (Pansher, Ghazni). In 1983, the same classmate Oleg Krichevsky, who was at that time a military adviser, was killed in a helicopter shot down by souls. In 1983, V. Kvachkov receives a concussion and undergoes a long period of treatment and rehabilitation in the Crimea. He was awarded the Order of the Red Star.
                        In 1984-1986, he served in the brigade in Pskov. In 1986–1989 - Chief of Staff of the brigade in the GSVG, and since 1989 he has been commanding the brigade in TurkVO. Participates in hostilities in hot spots: Azerbaijan (1990), Tajikistan (1992). He was awarded the Order of Courage. In 1992, on the basis of the compound, the famous film "Black Shark" was shot, in which, together with Kvachkov, Hero of the Soviet Union, commander of the Airborne Division at that time, Major General Vostrotin (SVSVU) was shot. In 1994, he worked in one of the main departments of the General Staff. Dismissed to the reserve in 1998.
                        Since then, he has been working as a senior research fellow at the Center for Military Strategic Studies of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Candidate of Military Sciences. As an employee, he was again awarded the Order (1999) of the Reserve Colonel. He is preparing a doctoral dissertation related to the problems of special operations.
                        Source: Ussuriysk Suvorov Military School

                        Do you have any questions about posts?
                        Quote: Passing by
                        So your intellectual level became clear, and at first it was so important that the cheeks were inflated ...

                        It’s not for you to judge about it - they are not mature enough yet.
                      6. -2
                        4 February 2020 20: 43
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Do you have any questions about posts?

                        Of course there is, but there is no desire to continue the discussion with you.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        It’s not for you to judge about it - they are not mature enough yet.

                        Judging by the fact that you have not even grown to a two-thousand-year freshness of thought - "do not judge, but you will not be judged," then God forbid me to "grow" to your level ...
  8. +10
    2 February 2020 12: 51
    But Dapirka was sentenced to life imprisonment and neither Vladimir Putin nor Dmitry Medvedev were interested in her fate at the government level.


    Why, there is a drug addict, we have normal people whom the Americans imprisoned in lawlessness are not even trying to get out.
  9. +2
    2 February 2020 12: 52
    I will not be surprised if this girl soon seizes in the Israeli parliament.
  10. +2
    2 February 2020 12: 52
    In any yuksovy club drug flow can be found, and even what. But Dapirku is a pity, but you have to choose friends at home and not God, who knows who.
  11. -3
    2 February 2020 12: 55
    Akol ye interviewer Yes
    Colleagues do not rush to extremes. This is a political step, if someone has not yet understood .. The law is the law. But for the sake of our relationship, I have mercy.
    PS. Well, if to the end ours and the reciprocal step were taken ..
    1. +5
      2 February 2020 13: 09
      Quote: Shahno
      Akol ye interviewer Yes
      Colleagues do not rush to extremes. This is a political step, if someone has not yet understood .. The law is the law. But for the sake of our relationship, I have mercy.
      PS. Well, if to the end ours and the reciprocal step were taken ..

      The fact that the political is understandable. It is not clear why so much PR. Why blow the whole world?
    2. +10
      2 February 2020 13: 53
      Quote: Shahno
      This is a political step, if someone has not yet understood .. The law is the law. But for the sake of our relationship, I have mercy.

      Tired of such steps already ... Yes
  12. +1
    2 February 2020 12: 57
    All is correct. She is like a Trojan horse. After all, drug addiction, a contagious disease and almost incurable. It is only necessary to ban entry into Russia.
  13. +9
    2 February 2020 13: 06
    Why is this? After all, they giggle behind their backs, like a servant over an excessively generous tip to a sucker. Some kind of one-goal game turns out. Foreign prisoners do not really pardon our prisoners.
  14. -12
    2 February 2020 13: 09
    They did not let her go because they did not want to spoil relations, but because the Israeli side asked for mercy. As long as they tried to prove the illegality of detention, the absence of crime, the disproportion of punishment, Russian justice did not lead an eyebrow. But as soon as they were converted humanly, they asked to be released from mercy - they released them.
    1. +8
      2 February 2020 13: 55
      Quote: Shuttle
      They did not let her go because they did not want to spoil relations, but because the Israeli side asked for mercy.

      Well, yes, yes ... laughing
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 17: 59
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Well, yes, yes ... laughing

        A smiley is of course an argument!
        But not everyone has the time to think a bit.

        “The president of Russia said correctly: we respect the Israeli attempts to free her, because this is an example of how your people, your country and her mother are fighting for their child. This is respected, not attempts to force to change a court decision or apologize, recognizing the provocation. "


        https://nevnov.ru/765145-kedmi-zayavil-o-neudachnoi-popytke-vystroit-antirossiiskuyu-propagandu-na-dele-issakhar
  15. +4
    2 February 2020 13: 10
    To me, all drug-related activities are initially disgusting.
    And people related to them are criminals.
    But, a little remark.
    An Israeli citizen followed their Indian flight to Israel, with a transfer in Moscow.
    The luggage in which she carried 7 grams of hashish was most likely not given to her.
    Those. arriving by plane, luggage is reloaded into another plane.
    Therefore, talk about sales is not necessary.
    Now further.
    From my point of view, measures should have been taken: either by the Indian authorities, which allowed the export of drugs from their territory, or by the Israeli authorities, where it was necessary to send both the cargo and the passenger.
    And there, as the curve takes out: either they will plant, or they will let go.
    If a person did not hold drugs in his hands and did not pass these substances on our territory to our or not our citizens, then let him go wherever he wants.
    And you can not judge him.
    1. +15
      2 February 2020 13: 26
      If she was carrying a bomb, then what?
      She was judged according to Russian laws and not according to Israeli. Do not write nonsense if she drove from Singapore, her tower would shine there
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 14: 09
        Do not get excited, but think.
        We are not talking about the bomb.
        There is a specific event algorithm.
        There is a fact of departure with hash from India.
        There is an arrival in Moscow.
        There is a luggage inspection.
        The dog smelled.
        Found the owner.
        But the owner is in the gray zone.
        On the territory of Russia his leg did not step.
        The ultimate goal of the flight is Israel.
        Well, let yourself fly.
        Notify the Israeli authorities that the person carries hash.
        That's all.
        No need to mess with foreigners.
        And there would be no debate today.

        After all, we can assume that people are flying over the territory of the Russian Federation, on airplanes. in which not only in luggage, for personal use, but also a larger amount of drugs is transported.
        Do aircraft forcibly land?
        And passengers are not arrested and not judged?
        And why not?
        Let's get creative in the process!
        1. -2
          2 February 2020 15: 59
          Quote: demo


          Notify the Israeli authorities that the person carries hash.
          That's all.
          No need to mess with foreigners.


          This is if initially there was no desire to catch a careless simp. And judging by the looming picture, it was not just a desire, there was an order. We see its fruits now - the Alexander Compound. By the way, even before the capture of Naama, Israeli transients complained about increased and too meticulous checks only by Israelis, citizens of other countries did not touch.
      2. +1
        2 February 2020 22: 23
        Quote: Uncle Izya
        If she was carrying a bomb, then what?

        1. -1
          3 February 2020 19: 32
          So why was Burkova arrested, he didn’t do crimes in Israel, he was lured to Israel
        2. -1
          3 February 2020 19: 41
          Your impudence knows no boundaries, I’m sure you are well over 70 and you write dirty tricks about Russia on Israeli sites. All of you are on the territory of Russia, you better answer why Russian tourists are expelled and scoffed from Israel and they’ve taken away their mobile phones, they flicked their asses naked for fun and rights download in srail
    2. +11
      2 February 2020 14: 08
      Quote: demo
      If a person did not hold drugs in his hands and did not pass these substances on our territory to our or not our citizens, then let him go wherever he wants.

      Even the “transit zone” at the Russian airport is the territory of the Russian state. Russia did not declare itself a country - a transit country for drugs. And if you are so “rooting” for the legal right of a passenger from Israel, then for this case she should have some kind of documentation that allows her to transport drugs for personal use in transit.
      1. +5
        2 February 2020 16: 10
        Gg so Russia ratified the convention on the non-distribution of narcotic substances. So an Israeli citizen is convicted by law !!! But the mercy is not by law! Since she did not file a petition for clemency
        1. -1
          3 February 2020 19: 42
          Yes you do not know about the police in Israel, real sadists
      2. -2
        2 February 2020 16: 32
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Even the “transit zone” at the Russian airport is the territory of the Russian state.

        No.
        This territory is located outside the customs border of Russia.
    3. +5
      2 February 2020 14: 18
      Quote: demo
      If a person did not hold drugs in his hands and did not pass these substances on our territory to our or not our citizens, then let him go wherever he wants.
      And you can not judge him.

      Controversial statement. But for example, they found in the baggage a cut off human head, such as closing a suitcase, and wave a hand, not our man was soaked, is not our business? But for example, our man soaked in another country whom we cannot extradite, there is no agreement, the relatives of the murdered have arrived, are crying, are asked to punish?
      1. -6
        2 February 2020 14: 34
        But for example, they found in the baggage a cut off human head, such as closing a suitcase, and wave a hand, not our man was soaked, is not our business?
        Of course. Notify the countries of departure and arrival and not interfere if they don't mind. This is usually done, only in this they gave a signal from above for the "law enforcement agencies" to spin the flywheel of unprecedented "justice."
        1. 0
          2 February 2020 14: 49
          Quote: God save the King
          Usually do

          What are you saying, this is how direct flight attendants with a sweet smile help push a suitcase with your head on the top shelf in the cabin, and the killer is cordially invited to the salon so that he takes everyone hostage there? belay And this, as you say, obviously, with irrefutable evidence, is common practice? Yes, I’ll never sit on a plane!
    4. +3
      2 February 2020 18: 13
      Quote: demo
      And you can not judge him.

      Those. do you propose to make air transit through Russia the safest for all drug couriers? And the simple thought that this madam was "punching" the route did not come to you?
    5. 0
      3 February 2020 00: 47
      The luggage in which she carried 7 grams of hashish was most likely not given to her.
      Those. arriving by plane, luggage is reloaded into another plane.
      Therefore, talk about sales is not necessary.
      Now further.
      From my point of view, measures should have been taken: either by the Indian authorities, which allowed the export of drugs from their territory, or by the Israeli authorities, where it was necessary to send both the cargo and the passenger.

      they didn’t give or receive, she was not going to
      In Israel and India, this amount of hash is not a crime.
  16. +10
    2 February 2020 13: 20
    I’m wondering, but for Russians, the GDP will also bother and take it on board and take it home, or what?
    1. +2
      2 February 2020 13: 28
      Yes, on Israel sites, all garbage is also disgusting. They don’t understand that they live in the BV and that they will have to drape and the USA
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    3. +8
      2 February 2020 13: 43
      It is strange that he himself on the presidential plane did not take the Israeli woman to her homeland, the effect would have been even more significant ... Ugh!
    4. +9
      2 February 2020 14: 02
      Quote: Ros 56
      I’m wondering, but for Russians, the GDP will also bother and take it on board and take it home, or what?

      In 2005, after thousands of militants entered the capital of Kyrgyzstan, Bishkek, Russia announced through its leaders that it would send a plane to take out its own. And how much will fit there? The embassy, ​​maybe. And according to my estimates, there were another 300 thousand in Kyrgyzstan, some of them had the citizenship of the Russian Federation, but they apparently did not enter the category of "theirs". Draw your own conclusions ... request
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 18: 18
        Quote: Tank Hard
        The embassy, ​​maybe. And according to my estimates, there were another 300 thousand in Kyrgyzstan, some of them had the citizenship of the Russian Federation, but they apparently did not enter the category of "theirs". Draw your own conclusions ...

        All of them, long ago, from the nineties, were offered to return to Russia, but not everyone wanted to do this - for various reasons, I do not deny this. But now, in general, all doors are open for them - what holds them, can you explain? Why did many emigrants return to the USSR, even realizing that awkward admission awaited them, or even camps, and these could not decide where they and their descendants would be better off living. That is why it is not necessary to speculate in a crisis situation - those who wanted to leave Central Asia long ago, and some, such as the deported Germans, even received housing in Moscow under the Luzhkov program.
        1. 0
          2 February 2020 20: 32
          Quote: ccsr
          All of them long ago, from the nineties, were offered to return to Russia, but not all of them wanted to do it - for various reasons,

          No need to tell tales here, the Grimm brothers wrote better. negative
          1. -1
            3 February 2020 11: 37
            Quote: Tank Hard
            No need to tell tales here, the Grimm brothers wrote better.

            Tales are for those who did not live at that time. And I remember very well how not even Russian people, but Armenians and Azerbaijanis fled from conflict zones, and lived for free in Moscow hotels, and then suddenly became Russian citizens. So if you forget this, then I remember well, as well as the fact that none of the Baltic republics still wants to go to Russia from the Baltic republics - the EU and Schengen are prettier to them, so leave your myths to children, and adults all understand perfectly.
            1. -2
              3 February 2020 13: 18
              Quote: ccsr
              Tales are for those who did not live at that time. And I well remember how not even Russian people

              For people like you, I remind you that I was born in the Kirghiz SSR and lived there until 2005 inclusive, and I felt all the delights of "fraternal" help. Again, keep your tales for yourself. negative
              Quote: ccsr
              and Armenians and Azerbaijanis fled from conflict zones, and lived for free in Moscow hotels, and then suddenly became Russian citizens.

              I have nothing to do with them.
              Quote: ccsr
              so leave your myths for children, and adults understand everything perfectly.

              I think that people like you would not have long held out in my myths. A fair wind ..
              Quote: ccsr
              as well as the fact that from the Baltic republics so far none of the Russians want to go to Russia

              Apparently such conditions for them create similar to you, which even there is easier for them.
              1. 0
                3 February 2020 18: 34
                Quote: Tank Hard
                Apparently such conditions for them create similar to you, which even there is easier for them.

                Do not lie, it’s you or your parents just didn’t want to go to Russia, hoping that it would be better for you there. And now when they were at a loss, they immediately began to blame Russia - we are familiar with this in Ukraine.
                Quote: Tank Hard
                For people like you, I remind you that I was born in the Kirghiz SSR and lived there until 2005 inclusive, and I felt all the delights of "fraternal" help.

                What does this have to do with Russia if neither you nor your parents want to receive Russian citizenship in the nineties in the established manner?
                1. 0
                  3 February 2020 21: 41
                  Quote: ccsr
                  What does this have to do with Russia if neither you nor your parents want to receive Russian citizenship in the nineties in the established manner?

                  You are such an intellectual that there’s nowhere to put a test! lol
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Do not lie, it’s you or your parents just didn’t want to go to Russia, hoping that it would be better for you there. And now when they were at a loss, they immediately began to blame Russia - we are familiar with this in Ukraine.

                  My mother is a retired captain, a citizen of Russia. Grandfather, deceased, war hero, citizen of Russia. And I am a citizen of Russia. And you are fabulous .... fool !!! But it happens, the country requires heroes, and people like you appear. laughing
                  1. -1
                    4 February 2020 12: 44
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    You are such an intellectual that there’s nowhere to put a test!

                    Then put it for yourself so that you can immediately see who you are dealing with.
                    .
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    My mother is a retired captain, a citizen of Russia. Grandfather, deceased, war hero, citizen of Russia. And I am a citizen of Russia.

                    Then why are you pouring crocodile tears? Who offended you, poor fellow?
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    But it happens, the country requires heroes, and people like you appear.

                    So become him yourself - as I understand, you have already made an attempt, you have begun to denounce officials on the forms who are hindering you in some way. "Heroic" act - you will not say anything ...
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2020 13: 57
                      Quote: ccsr
                      So become him yourself - as I understand it, you have already made an attempt, started on forms to expose officials who interfere with you in something. "Heroic" act - you will not say anything ...

                      What is sleeping badly? Take a sedative ... feel
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Then why are you pouring crocodile tears? Who offended you, poor fellow?

                      You do not sleep, then imagines, apparently from a big mind. laughing
                      Quote: ccsr
                      Then put it for yourself so that you can immediately see who you are dealing with.

                      "Meli Emelya, your week!" wink
      2. +2
        3 February 2020 10: 03
        Kyrgyzstan had another 300 thousand, some of them had Russian citizenship, but apparently they were not included in the category of "theirs". Draw your own conclusions ...

        I can only conclude about the naivety or stupidity of your comment. Usually, first of all, employees of diplomatic missions (and their families), trade missions, advisers, etc. are evacuated. Evacuation of the entire population en masse, especially 300 thousand. Do you even imagine the nature of the humanitarian operation? Or was it just written for the crow? Even during Operation Gusty Wind, the Americans failed to do this.
    5. -2
      2 February 2020 16: 33
      Quote: Ros 56
      and for Russians, GDP will also bother and take aboard and take it home, or what?

      Great honor. Recently there was a corresponding example with Ukrainian exchanges.
  17. -8
    2 February 2020 13: 28
    Quote: demo
    To me, all drug-related activities are initially disgusting.
    And people related to them are criminals.
    But, a little remark.
    An Israeli citizen followed their Indian flight to Israel, with a transfer in Moscow.
    The luggage in which she carried 7 grams of hashish was most likely not given to her.
    Those. arriving by plane, luggage is reloaded into another plane.
    Therefore, talk about sales is not necessary.
    Now further.
    From my point of view, measures should have been taken: either by the Indian authorities, which allowed the export of drugs from their territory, or by the Israeli authorities, where it was necessary to send both the cargo and the passenger.
    And there, as the curve takes out: either they will plant, or they will let go.
    If a person did not hold drugs in his hands and did not pass these substances on our territory to our or not our citizens, then let him go wherever he wants.
    And you can not judge him.

    Yes, from the point of view of lawyers it was ..
  18. -8
    2 February 2020 13: 29
    Quote: Kleber
    But Dapirka was sentenced to life imprisonment and neither Vladimir Putin nor Dmitry Medvedev were interested in her fate at the government level.


    Why, there is a drug addict, we have normal people whom the Americans imprisoned in lawlessness are not even trying to get out.

    Pull, you see, it will be a plus for Russia.
  19. -9
    2 February 2020 13: 33
    Quote: freddyk
    Quote: Shahno
    Akol ye interviewer Yes
    Colleagues do not rush to extremes. This is a political step, if someone has not yet understood .. The law is the law. But for the sake of our relationship, I have mercy.
    PS. Well, if to the end ours and the reciprocal step were taken ..

    The fact that the political is understandable. It is not clear why so much PR. Why blow the whole world?

    So it happened. Netanyahu needs a strong move before the election. Well, your President has actually shown peacefulness not in front of Israel, but in front of those who do not slander you for aggression in the world ..
    PS. Moreover, the situation with proportionality of punishment turned out to be very slippery ..
  20. +7
    2 February 2020 13: 34
    "Blat" has not been canceled yet!
  21. -3
    2 February 2020 13: 35
    In general, I agree only to clarify that she was seized in the transit zone and not on the territory of Russia, and according to Israeli laws 15 grams can be
    1. +3
      2 February 2020 14: 01
      Quote: Kronos
      In general, I agree only to clarify that she was seized in the transit zone and not on the territory of Russia, and according to Israeli laws 15 grams can be

      If she was arrested not according to the law, then the people who did this should look for work in the REU, and not wear shoulder straps.
      1. +3
        2 February 2020 14: 10
        then the people who did this should look for work in the REU, and not wear shoulder straps.
        Who should, who will ask them?
    2. +6
      2 February 2020 14: 51
      she was captured in a transit zone and not in Russia


      Legal advice https://www.9111.ru/questions/5206106/
      "The transit zone is already territory of the Russian Federation... The aircraft arriving at the airport is considered the territory of another state. And when leaving it, the passenger finds himself in the territory of the state in which he arrived. "


      I would sit on the plane - I could at least eat this drug, if the Jewish law allows it. The only pity is that our doctors would have to go up the gangway to the "territory of Israel" without a visa.
      1. -2
        2 February 2020 16: 05
        Yes, only luggage did not get into this zone. It was unloaded from one plane, and loaded into another - this is usually done. But in this case, they began to check, although the baggage check went to Delhi. And checked for a reason.
        1. 0
          2 February 2020 16: 27
          Yes, only luggage did not get into this zone. He was unloaded from one plane, and loaded into another

          Teleportation? I understand, justify the hunt. So do not get to the point of absurdity.
          And then you say - "The drug was in the package and she did not take it with her hands, so she is innocent."
          And checked for a reason
          . Of course they did. And what does that change?
      2. -2
        2 February 2020 16: 39
        Quote: dauria
        "The transit zone is already the territory of the Russian Federation. The territory of another state is considered to be the board that has arrived at the airport. And when leaving it, the passenger finds himself in the territory of the state in which he arrived."

        Not customs. Therefore, 228.1, custody, she can still be imputed with some dances, but 229.1, Smuggling, no. Actually, the guarantor said this.
  22. +2
    2 February 2020 13: 45
    Shit doesn't sink.
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 14: 19
      Please specify who is not drowning. I do not know whether to put a plus or not.
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 16: 36
        Read until you understand. Who!
  23. -3
    2 February 2020 13: 52
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Quote: Tatiana
    This means that she herself, as an Israeli citizen, doesn’t care about Russia as such,

    All this, of course, strengthens the love of ordinary citizens of Russia for the Israelis and their ilk more and more, well done! Yes

    So Naomi does not understand that this is Russia .. she only saw the prison.
  24. +2
    2 February 2020 13: 58
    A very large percentage of those seated under this article, those who have found the minimum amount needed for planting. And they mixed all the drugs, both light and heavy. At first glance, it’s easier to ban everything, but it’s much more difficult to take young people than necessary, then this problem will decrease.
    1. +1
      2 February 2020 20: 00
      don’t remind me how to call that journalist which werewolves threw in the summer and then the public even repelled Vova who dispersed some generals)))
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 21: 33
        Golunov or Galunov. This is not an amazing and occurring case.
  25. -2
    2 February 2020 13: 59
    Quote: Thrifty
    Yeah, the next drug courier from Israel can now safely go to Russia, or through it even a ton of drugs can be taken — they’ll pardon me in Russia, deport them home, and ask for forgiveness at the border! And even for illegal arrest and compensation will be paid! !!

    Do you think our clans have tried? This is serious. They got their own Brzezinski sad
  26. +6
    2 February 2020 13: 59
    It is not comfortable to live in a country where the law is rotated as if it were "drawbar". It’s disgusting to live in a state where the law is used instead of “cyst”.
    As for the situation, not every mother of a “hash lover” is included in Netanyahu’s office. As for Putin’s intercession, this is his personal constitutional right (as well as being a guarantor of no more than two terms contract) Probably, when signing the petition for clemency, he was guided by "good intentions", the same as those Israeli pilots who had set up our Il-20 with the crew under fire from Syria.
    As for “we don’t leave our own,” it’s been clear for a long time now who to whom - “our unwillingly brother”. So, the prophetic words are true as never before:

    hi
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 14: 19
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It is not comfortable to live in a country where the law is rotated as if it were "drawbar". It’s disgusting to live in a state where the law is used instead of “cyst”

      Think better there? Watch and listen carefully. hi
      1. +10
        2 February 2020 14: 22
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Think better there? Watch and listen carefully.

        Me "waist-high", as there. I live "here" and I want it to be here by law ...
        1. -1
          2 February 2020 14: 26
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Me "waist-high", as there. I live "here" and I want it to be here by law ...

          It would not be superfluous to compare, in the Russian Federation everything is not so sad as in the United States, but many "liberal"-minded individuals want to, like in the United States, the video describes the difference not in favor of the United States. And so, yes, at home I want fairer conditions.
          1. +1
            2 February 2020 14: 57
            In the USA they don’t give a couple of years for rape or murder, repeat offenders sit all their lives and don’t go out to kill again in Russia later
            1. 0
              2 February 2020 15: 21
              Quote: Kronos
              In the USA they don’t give a couple of years for rape or murder, repeat offenders sit all their lives and don’t go out to kill again in Russia later

              So live there, I do not need such laws here. wink
      2. 0
        2 February 2020 14: 58
        Dude complains that the country lives by law
        1. 0
          2 February 2020 15: 20
          Quote: Kronos
          Dude complains that the country lives by law

          According to such a law? wink Cool do they live? Have you watched to the end?
          1. -2
            2 February 2020 15: 21
            Yes, I searched under the laws of the United States the police act
            1. 0
              2 February 2020 15: 24
              Quote: Kronos
              Yes, I watched

              To deceive is not good, I did not have time to send it, and Kronos had already inspected. And the video is more than 10 minutes! laughing laughing laughing It’s clear with you, a citizen from the society of lovers of Navalny ... feel
              1. 0
                2 February 2020 15: 25
                I watched it before because I saw this blogger
      3. -1
        2 February 2020 16: 42
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Think better there?

        American criminal law is a shame on this country. Should someone focus on one of the worst systems in the world?

        By the way. In the States, can sitters be exchanged for a house?
  27. -2
    2 February 2020 14: 01
    about this story here is well written https://hueviebin1.livejournal.com/464709.html
  28. +9
    2 February 2020 14: 03
    So, the source data:
    1. Russia offered to exchange it for its citizen, refused and extradited to the United States.
    2. The pardoned basically refused to ask for pardon and plead guilty. And sent our country.
    3. her president, however, had mercy and released solemnly.
    Total:
    This is a blatant step in exponentially wiping your feet on the country ...
    It's simple .......
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    2. -7
      2 February 2020 14: 22
      Correctly refused, she did not violate anything
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 20: 35
        Yes, I’m not talking about her at all, at large and well, I have no complaints about her.
        I'm talking about the position of those who expose the situation in such a way that we can be arrogantly bent
    3. 0
      2 February 2020 14: 30
      Not fundamentally refused, but wrote a petition. Why lie?
      Or maybe he got confused with Savchenko? She refused
      1. -3
        2 February 2020 20: 31
        1. Yes, I missed the written statement, I’ll take into account.
        2. But, there was no remorse, guilty plea, that is, free because you have to or how?
        3. Yes, and with Savchenko, an example is also a good, indicative one, at that time to whom was the service requested?
  29. +8
    2 February 2020 14: 11
    By the way, the notorious Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov several times filed a request for parole and each time these petitions were rejected.
    very sorry for the colonel, a very worthy man! It’s a shame that I didn’t finish the business that is attributed to him, I would save a lot of money to Russia!
  30. +1
    2 February 2020 14: 11
    Quote: Operator
    There is one subtlety - at the moment, the Russian Federation is negotiating with Israel on the return of the former Jerusalem property of the Russian Orthodox Church, which Khrushchev sold on barter for Israeli oranges. Most likely, the drug addict was exchanged for Israel’s consent to return the building to Russian state property (paid, of course).

    A dumb Russian hacker who hacked into a lot of card accounts in the USA, went abroad to rest and extradited by Israel as part of a criminal case.

    Well. What is the name of the property?
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  31. +2
    2 February 2020 14: 12
    Israel redeemed Naama, which was taken hostage. They paid for it with the Alexander Compound in Jerusalem. Most likely, the Russian Orthodox Church will not pay the municipal tax - and this is tens and hundreds of thousands of shekels a year. There are still points about which are not widely distributed now. In any case, her release is not a broad gesture of Putin, but a deal that is profitable for the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian authorities, but completely unprofitable for Israel.
    1. +2
      2 February 2020 14: 33
      Quote: borberd
      Israel redeemed Naama hostage

      The poor, innocent Naam, who was taken hostage by evil individuals, and even profited from Israel! What can’t you read here ... request
      1. -3
        2 February 2020 15: 09
        In fact, they didn’t break any laws
    2. +4
      2 February 2020 17: 54
      Initially, the Alexander Compound was in state ownership - the land was purchased from Copts for treasury by the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Empire, the courtyard was managed by the Main Directorate of Departments of the Ministry of the Imperial Court of the Republic of Ingushetia - an analogue of the State Property Committee of the Russian Federation (and not the Holy Governing Synod - an analogue of the Council for Religious Affairs under the SM THE USSR).

      The vast majority of Orthodox churches, temples, cathedrals and monasteries in Russia and, in part, abroad have been in state ownership since 1721.
      1. -1
        3 February 2020 09: 49
        Here they wrote below that Khrushchev paid them for oranges. In any case, it has not belonged to Russia for the last 40-50 years.
  32. -5
    2 February 2020 14: 15
    Learn Polonsky material, and then write. Didn’t Russia receive the Alexander Metochion in return?
    In addition, she flew in transit and was not in the territory of Russia according to the established rules. Do not compare the incomparable 10 grams of hash for yourself and those who bookmark.
    What is the purpose of your opus?
  33. +3
    2 February 2020 14: 18
    But I would like to ask a question to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. And if a Russian citizen decides to score a joint, will you have mercy on him or what?
  34. -1
    2 February 2020 14: 18
    Quote: Roman1970_1
    Learn Polonsky material, and then write. Didn’t Russia receive the Alexander Metochion in return?
    In addition, she flew in transit and was not in the territory of Russia according to the established rules. Do not compare the incomparable 10 grams of hash for yourself and those who bookmark.
    What is the purpose of your opus?

    Well honestly. You should have given the compound.
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 15: 42
      So they gave
  35. +5
    2 February 2020 14: 45
    Yes, yes ... in this world our everywhere.
  36. +1
    2 February 2020 14: 52
    Here in this story dofig things that the author did not mention at all.
    I'll just give a little example:
    The girl was detained at Sheremetyevo Airport when she was traveling from Delhi to Tel Aviv.

    Look at the map. Where is Delhi located? Where is Telavi, tfu, Tel Aviv? Where is Moscow? What is the route?
    It is clear to the Hedgehog that this is the so-called "breakdown" of the track. Here the main thing is that it did not work out, and then the main interest is why Natanyahu was harnessed, this is exactly what is not in his interests - they closed OUR delivery channel from India to his home. he should kiss ours in a dupa.
    Here, what got to the public in this story is a percentage of the total meaning. Maybe two percent
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 15: 37
      Look at the map. Where is Delhi located? Where is Telavi, tfu, Tel Aviv? Where is Moscow? What is the route?

      I flew to Thailand through Moscow - a convenient connection and cheaper than the same El Alem and Aeroflot provides good service and the aircraft are quite new and comfortable. Many Israelis used Aeroflot to fly to the Far East or Southeast Asia.
      But, apparently, the massive use of Aeroflot by the Israelis is already in the past - who wants to go to the Russian colony for "and why in a hat?"

      By the way, in Israel itself, the reaction to the release of Issachar is far-oooo not unambiguous. After all, it is clear that in addition to the Alexandrovsky Compound in Jerusalem, Russia received a lot more - in principle, for a "criminal" - after all, she is not a soldier and not an agent of the Mossad (sort of) on a mission - why should the Prime Minister so be harnessed to a bull and even on his plane? In Israeli society, the attitude towards this whole story is rather negative and is perceived as pure PR for Netanyahu before the elections. By the way, polls show that Issachar's "release" did not bring him any additional votes.

      As for the Russian "hacker" - he was arrested at the request of Interpol and Israel could not "exchange him.
      1. +1
        2 February 2020 15: 48
        I also understand about transit. Let's do it.
        Well, let's say you're a fan of, say, firearms. Somewhere in Nepal, not from a stick, rare cartridges for a berdanka. Fly from there, so that cheaper, first to Australia, then. relatively speaking the place of residence in Madagascar) Ammo you carry with you in your pocket, well, so clean for fun?
        You really will include a fool that you do not understand why she needs those 10 grams? Just options, why did she drag them with her?
        Well, yes, the poor girl was shaved by the poor Terrans for no reason, though I don’t remember - in what country of the world drug smuggling is not a criminal offense.
        So the fewer such guests -
        Quote: avib
        But, apparently, the massive use of Aeroflot by the Israelis is already in the past - who wants to go to the Russian colony for "and why in a hat?"

        All the better.
        Tell us about your Ben-Gurion and checks, everything is very civilized there, right? Doesn't it reach the striptease for cameras for a long time?
        1. -2
          2 February 2020 16: 04
          Quote: Cowbra
          You really will include a fool that you do not understand why she needs those 10 grams? Just options, why did she drag them with her?

          10 grams in Israel costs about 800 shekels. This is 200 US dollars. In India, apparently cheaper - so she wanted to "save a little". In Tel Aviv, you can buy dope at every corner and such an amount for personal use is not considered a reason even for detention, let alone any criminal prosecution. So there is no need to pull by the ears, non-pulling - the same is me a drug dealer with 9.5 grams in a backpack from India.

          In Ben Gurion, they can and otchmonat (you got excited about the cameras, of course) - but only those who behave inadequately during the "interrogation" or about them some information was received ahead of time and they were "already expected".
          Recently (2 years ago this was not AT ALL) Russian citizens come to Israel without a visa and remain to work illegally or apply for "refugee" status in order to obtain an official work permit. The migration service is fighting this (and this is not only Russia, but also Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Romania and other countries with the problem of finding a job) - therefore, some are deployed.
          1. 0
            2 February 2020 16: 26
            So, I’m telling you again, swap drugs with cartridges in places, it’s also forbidden around the world. And it sounds funny. Save - does not feed many times longer flight, did not save.
            And about the stunt on the camera - you see here simply either not in the know, or ... Cunning. That's the norm, dear, there are better chips at your airports. And the norm is to prevent, for example, conspiracy between the inspector and the inspected. There is generally a lot of fun, the truth does not lie either in human rights or in elementary decency
            1. -1
              2 February 2020 18: 28
              Quote: Cowbra
              Save - does not feed many times longer flight, did not save.

              Ah, well, I understood your train of thought.
              The fact is that many young Israelis, having served military service, go for a period of 1 month to 2 years to travel. This is such a common practice - aired. Many go to make tracks in South America or in Nepal. Many are pulled in Thailand or India. In India, it’s Goa. Goa dope and trance parties. So this Naama pulled herself over there and did yoga for about six months and decided to take 9 grams of dope to the track home.
              This is not a business.
              1. 0
                2 February 2020 18: 44
                You see, what you said is an option. The option is quite real and acceptable. But - Occam's Razor.
                I do not speak. that I have no alternative right. But just the options that are right in the ASSUMPTION - I, and not you - turn out to be noticeably more.
                Again, look. What has your prime minister gotten up to? Do not abandon their jars? Probably...
                The 12th channel of Israeli TV showed a report on the Israeli Moshe Ben David, who was sentenced by the Georgian authorities to eight years in prison.

                Ben David was detained two years ago. With it, less than a gram of Subotex was found.
          2. -1
            3 February 2020 00: 51
            a little bit wrong.
            she bought in India and put it in the pocket of her backpack, then did not find where he was and decided that he was no longer there.
        2. 0
          2 February 2020 16: 12
          Here are the latest news.
          Channel 12 on Israeli television reported on the sad fate of two young Israeli women arrested in Peru on suspicion of drug smuggling.

          ve young Israeli women - 27-year-old Zohar Madar and 24-year-old Hodia Monsonego - were detained at the airport of Lima (Peru) with 28 kilograms of cocaine.

          The Israeli women were detained just before boarding the plane bound for Tel Aviv. They found 28 kilograms of cocaine in their suitcases, the market value of which in Israel is several tens of millions of shekels.


          I understand it! This is serious!
      2. -1
        2 February 2020 17: 03
        Quote: avib
        In Israeli society, the whole story is rather negative and perceived as Netanyahu’s pure PR before the election

        Well, if so.
        In Russia, Bibi’s behavior is explained by a large number of Putin fans among Likud voters.
    2. 0
      2 February 2020 15: 45
      So a transit flight. There were places left for the flight Delhi Moscow and there were places left for the flight Moscow Tel Aviv. The price was reduced and forward. Everything is more profitable than an empty chair and it’s cheaper for a person, but longer
      1. 0
        2 February 2020 15: 52
        Why dragged such a volume. Souvenir?
        She was taken to check for a strange flight, there were tickets left - maybe, but obviously longer and more expensive, we look
  37. +2
    2 February 2020 14: 56
    And they forgot about our hacker (Burkov) ?! fool
  38. 0
    2 February 2020 15: 03
    Quote: Host of the Tavern
    And they forgot about our hacker (Burkov) ?! fool

    It was impossible to give a turn. Only Trump could ..
    1. +1
      2 February 2020 17: 56
      Did I understand you correctly, Pavel, that any Russian citizen who has committed a crime on its territory will be extradited from Israel to Russia?
  39. -1
    2 February 2020 15: 25
    so narcotics then in Russia car chasers and control
  40. +3
    2 February 2020 15: 32
    and Vladimir Putin or Dmitry Medvedev at the government level were not interested in her fate

    Because the current state ̶n̶a̶sh̶e̶ "went to the toilet" on its ordinary citizens.
  41. 0
    2 February 2020 15: 47
    I remember the unforgettable from the movie "Beware of the car", namely the scene of explanations in the pub: - "... your mom is good, she sings about the steam locomotive!"
  42. 0
    2 February 2020 16: 14
    There are still ambiguities here. Indeed, at the very beginning, the girl refused to write a petition for clemency. She is not a masochist. Nowadays, one must be especially careful for those who move around the country and outside its borders. You will be given a letter to be sent to the mailbox in another city so that it’s faster. And terrible things can happen here. There is nowhere such competition as in the field of drug distribution. And laying a competitor is in the order of things. Keep your ears at the top of your head.
  43. +1
    2 February 2020 16: 20
    Quote: Tatiana
    the pardoned Israeli Issakhar even after she was liberated by Putin defiantly before the journalists publicly did not admit her guilt !!!

    Tatyana! Have you anywhere and ever seen a person convicted of any act WOULD PUBLICALLY RECOGNIZE OUR GUILT?

    Quote: Thrifty
    Yeah, the next drug courier from Israel can now safely go to Russia, or through it even a ton of drugs can be taken — they’ll pardon me in Russia, deport them home, and ask for forgiveness at the border! And even for illegal arrest and compensation will be paid! !!

    If she did not leave the "clean zone" of the airport, that is, did not cross the cordon of customs officers (border guards), then she really had nothing to show, she did not actually cross the border. But then the second question is, how were these drugs discovered?

    Quote: kjhg
    This is actually a disgrace! Russia asked to exchange this Jewess for our citizen Alexei Burkov, who was arrested in Israel for hacking.

    Well, hacking is a bit different than transporting 9,5 grams of drugs. Most often in our media they say hacking, without specifying what exactly a particular hacker is accused of. And there could be anything. And hacking banks and payment systems, and the manipulation of currency (cryptocurrency) and money laundering.

    And most importantly, ours often do not take action immediately after the arrest of a particular US citizen. The Americans, through Interpol, carried out an arrest warrant for Burkov at least in 2015. And then he was arrested in Israel. And they not only carried him through Interpol, but at the same time issued a request for his extradition. And ours probably "swayed" for too long. By the way, it is not known whether there was a request for his extradition to Russia or a proposal to change appeared after the arrest of the Israeli woman in the spring of 2019.

    Quote: BARKAS
    So the point is not in Chubais alone, but in the fact that there are a lot of people like him and for each his own Kvachkov.

    Yah!! Many such cases do you know that "on such as he" have already found their own Kvachkov? How much have we heard about the deaths of "people like him" ???

    Quote: ROSS 42
    Even the “transit zone” at the Russian airport is the territory of the Russian state. Russia did not declare itself a country - a transit country for drugs. And if you are so “rooting” for the legal right of a passenger from Israel, then for this case she should have some kind of documentation that allows her to transport drugs for personal use in transit.

    But to some extent, the comrade is right. The transit zone is a transit zone, and although it is formally located on the territory of the Russian state, I don’t think that all Russian laws are in full force. The main question is why there was an inspection? She did not receive any luggage in her arms. In fact, anyone can be imprisoned this way. It is enough only to find in his (her) luggage drugs, about which he (she) "did not dig an ear". Some dark question ...

    Quote: dauria
    I’d sit on a plane — I could at least gobble up this drug, if Jewish law allows it.

    I think that they are not quite right. For example.
    My daughter in 2017 flew to Leningrad from Stavropol. There is no direct plane. Landing in Vnukovo and departure to Leningrad from the same Vnukovo in 6 hours. But the luggage was loaded in another.
    As for this Israeli woman, the transplant case was the same as that of my daughter. Only mine - a citizen of Russia and could all these hours "roam" around the territory of the entire Vnukovo air terminal, and the Israeli woman was most likely forced to be in the transit zone.
    And who would allow her to sit on the plane if the final destination was Moscow (Delhi-Moscow), and then boarding the Moscow-Tel Aviv plane.
    If it did not go beyond the "gray" or "clean" zone, did not pass customs control, then these halls, although they are located at the airport on the territory of Russia, most likely enjoy the right of extraterritoriality. You seem to be in Russia, but not yet on the territory of Russia, since you have not crossed the state border either by customs or border guards ...
    1. +2
      2 February 2020 16: 50
      Quote: Old26
      The main question, why was the search?

      They write that the dog went around transit luggage and found it. Although strange details appear: Naama is the daughter of the Bibi driver, who will soon have elections again. Somehow successfully coincided.
      1. -2
        2 February 2020 18: 32
        Quote: Octopus
        Quote: Old26
        The main question, why was the search?

        They write that the dog went around transit luggage and found it. Although strange details appear: Naama is the daughter of the Bibi driver, who will soon have elections again. Somehow successfully coincided.

        She is the niece of a Bibi driver.
        But it is unlikely that this played any role.
        1. -1
          2 February 2020 21: 25
          Quote: avib
          She is the niece of a Bibi driver.
          But it is unlikely that this played any role.

          We are here in Russia conspiracy theorists)))
  44. -1
    2 February 2020 17: 08
    Quote: Octopus
    Quote: Tatiana
    Israeli citizen allows herself such disrespect for Russia,

    If I’m not mistaken, she was kidnapped and exchanged for a stolen house. What respect are you talking about?
    Quote: Tatiana
    and even to Netanyahu himself

    Bibi himself is put in jail in prison. Not only for this story, but also for this one.

    Who will plant him. He is. But we can ..
    1. -2
      2 February 2020 17: 30
      Quote: Shahno
      But we can ..

      It's time
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigations_involving_Benjamin_Netanyahu
  45. 0
    2 February 2020 17: 25
    Jews always agree
  46. -1
    2 February 2020 17: 27
    The drug dealers are the same killers of people, only the murder is stretched out in time. In addition, everyone probably knows that the drug dealer is interested in drawing in an ever-increasing mass of people: "the first dose is free" ... There is practically no complete recovery from drug addiction. First of all, young people are addicted to drugs - our hope and support. Drug addiction of citizens - undermining the country's defense. Remember the "successes" of the British in China in the spread of opium ... Therefore, I consider it justified to increase the punishment for drug trafficking. The liberation of Jewish drug trafficking is Putin's curtsey towards Israel, nothing more. There must have been reasons for him to do this. I don't think Israel will be delighted with such a citizen.
    1. -1
      2 February 2020 18: 04
      You are mistaken up to 15 grams there is not legally prosecuted
  47. 0
    2 February 2020 17: 46
    Of course, the girl after the appeal of the prime minister and parents was worth letting go, but it was also worth showing that Russia was not a passage yard. True, something tells me that it is worth waiting for some muck from the God-chosen for a good deed.
  48. 0
    2 February 2020 17: 47
    Jews in our country are beyond jurisdiction. Now we have received excellent proof of this.
    Still, the Czech Republic should be led by the Czech, Sweden - by the Swede, and Russia - by Russian. When Russia is ruled by a Jew, as now, we see a sad picture.
    1. -2
      2 February 2020 18: 05
      Well, for example, Yeltsin was Russian or Khrushchev, and what made them better?
    2. -1
      2 February 2020 18: 36
      Quote: Dude
      Jews in our country are beyond jurisdiction. Now we have received excellent proof of this.
      Still, the Czech Republic should be led by the Czech, Sweden - by the Swede, and Russia - by Russian. When Russia is ruled by a Jew, as now, we see a sad picture.

      "What's again?!" (From the cartoon "there was a dog")

      And GDP is Jewish ?! That flooded so flooded !!!

      Mom, were there any Russians in our family? (From the movie "Shirley Myrley")

      Did not know. May I have a link to the details?
  49. 0
    2 February 2020 18: 20
    Dear VO visitors! This story is all muddy, as with Ivan Golunov. Let's start with the driver Bibi - he is either a dad, or the uncle of a young minx. Considering the relationship with the driver of the Prime Minister of Israel - a state with nuclear weapons, let's play a little conspiracy theories, it's Sunday evening and the frost is gone at -30, so we can afford ... Where is the guarantee that the recruiting approach to the girl was not carried out by a representative special services or a criminal structure? There is no guarantee. The girl refused - and in the luggage, quite by accident, hashish appeared. And no spanking long-eared suitcases in Moscow sniffed - there was a call to Moscow, they knew exactly which suitcase and what to look for ... The second option - the girl was taking it for herself ... The third option - the girl was taking it on the instructions of the Israeli special services, she smoked in India with whom? And with whom the officers told the curators - with those and smoked. In 50 years she will be awarded, I hope not posthumously. Here is the Israeli secret services and harnessed to her. Look, in Syria or Lebanon, or in Turkey, resting after the battles with infidels in the North Caucasus, in Karabakh and Syria, a bearded native of Saudi Arabia accidentally choked on a grape seed. Kysmet! Israel's intelligence service accidentally left his phone number to Putin's translator ... And did anyone see the documents in the Presidential Administration of Russia on pardon? Especially journalists who claim that the girl did not write about the pardon. After all, they are not lying, representatives of the second oldest. The lawyer wrote, and the prisoner Issachar is only in the right place.
  50. +1
    2 February 2020 18: 29
    Something my computer mocked, the comment flew away, I’ll finish the phrase: “... I put my signature, she didn’t have a computer on the zone ... But Bibi has been familiar to Putin for a long time, they say for a long time and often, they decide something by going to a compromise, you rightly noted - in Israel there may soon be changes ... And we all, at "VO", can only stock up on popcorn. "
  51. -2
    2 February 2020 18: 35
    Quote: Octopus
    Quote: Old26
    The main question, why was the search?

    They write that the dog went around transit luggage and found it. Although strange details appear: Naama is the daughter of the Bibi driver, who will soon have elections again. Somehow successfully coincided.

    I'm not talking about whose daughter she is and whether it coincided successfully or not. I read what they write about the dog. The question is how this was all legally arranged. And in general, the matter is quite murky. What they write about this situation raises a number of questions.
    As they write, she was initially charged with possession of cannabis, which usually entails a month's detention, a fine and a ban on entry into the country. However, shortly before the end of her month's sentence, the state prosecutor changed the charge from possession for personal use to drug smuggling, a more serious charge. By the way, she was detained on April 9, 2019, and the trial was on October 11

    Further, as already written, the dog found these drugs in her luggage. But the luggage was transferred to her connecting flight to Tel Aviv. As they write again, the connecting flight was in 4 hours and all this time she was in the transit zone and did not leave the airport.
    The reclassification of the article is unclear. The accused did not have access to her luggage, which was sent from the plane arriving from Delhi to the transit warehouse, and from there to the plane en route to Tel Aviv. In short, it's a dark matter.
  52. +1
    2 February 2020 18: 55
    No matter how deep the label is, people convicted of drug offenses cannot be forgiven.
  53. -2
    2 February 2020 20: 14
    Quote: Cowbra
    Look at the map. Where is Delhi located? Where is Telavi, tfu, Tel Aviv? Where is Moscow? What is the route?
    It is clear to the hedgehog that this is a so-called “breakdown” of the route.

    What would you name the routes then?
    • Delhi-Rome-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-London-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Paris-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Munich-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Zurich-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Amsterdam-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Istanbul-Tel Aviv

    And there is another masterpiece flight
    • Delhi-El-Riyadh-Istanbul-Tel Aviv. Not to mention flights
    • Delhi-Beijing-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Bangkok-Tel Aviv
    • Delhi-Addis Ababa-Tel Aviv

    Do you already consider the Delhi-Moscow-Tel Aviv route to be a future route for drug transit??

    Quote: Cowbra
    I also understand about transit. Let's do it.
    Well, let's say you're a fan of, say, firearms. Somewhere in Nepal, not from a stick, rare cartridges for a berdanka. Fly from there, so that cheaper, first to Australia, then. relatively speaking the place of residence in Madagascar) Ammo you carry with you in your pocket, well, so clean for fun?

    Well, if you (a certain lover of rarities) are completely crazy, you can carry it in your pocket. Or you can send it by parcel. They don’t ask to be eaten, and they’re not perishable.

    Quote: evgen1221
    No matter how deep the label is, people convicted of drug offenses cannot be forgiven.

    With this Israeli woman, the matter is generally dark. Anyone could end up in this position, especially if they “need” to be detained. And drugs can end up in your luggage, even if you are not a drug addict. You just need to be “closed” What, there are few cases when drugs are found on people during a search, but they are “out of business” and have never tried drugs in their lives. And everyone already considers this girl a drug addict. We consider our Maria Daripko (who is also mentioned in the article) and who was detained with a shipment of cocaine to be a victim of her boyfriend, but not a drug addict. Because she is ours. But the Israeli woman was found with 7 or grams - she is already a complete drug addict...
  54. BAI
    -1
    2 February 2020 21: 55
    A natural question arises: why is so much importance attached to an ordinary case?

    Because Russia always and everywhere cares very touchingly about foreigners, and always and everywhere spits on its citizens.
  55. +4
    2 February 2020 21: 58
    "....In recent years, the Russian state has significantly tightened responsibility for any drug-related crimes...."
    How long is “recent years”? Somehow I don’t remember over the past 8 years there have been changes in the Criminal Code regarding terms for drug offenses. And before that, there was tightening, but it concerned serious and especially serious crimes, which people do not accidentally end up in.

    "... So, for a relatively small amount of drugs found on a citizen, he can receive a very impressive prison term, comparable to the punishment for rape and even murder. They are often sentenced to 10 years in prison...."
    Again, the “citizen lied”.... Open the Criminal Code and find out how many drugs in storage are punishable by up to 10 years in prison. If you are lazy, then I will tell you: “large size”. For heroin this is 2,5 grams or more. And if there is less than 0,5 grams of gerych in his pocket, then there will be no criminal case at all - administrative charges under 6,8 of the Code of Administrative Offenses. And the maximum sentence is given very rarely.... Incl. In order to get 10 years for POSSESSION of drugs, you have to try VERY HARD. Sales are a separate matter.

    "...Most of those convicted under Article 228 are young people, boys and girls. Among them there are real criminals, but there are also those who were imprisoned, as they say, out of stupidity. Someone was flattered by the job of a “courier for 150 thousand a month" and made several so-called "bookmarks", after which he was caught by the police. Someone simply had with him an amount of a narcotic substance a little more than the established amount. They are all dragging out their sentences and relying only on the help of their relatives and the opportunity to get out Parole due either to his behavior or connections in the FSIN system...."
    It is true that it is mostly young people who are addicted to drugs. And there are several reasons for this phenomenon. I won't talk about them. And there is no need to put pressure on pity, they say, for young people who are imprisoned. And I don’t agree with the fact that they are imprisoned “out of stupidity”!!! Categorically!!! “Out of greed,” I agree, but not “out of stupidity.” It takes a lot of intelligence to figure out that if they offer 150 tr. for a trifle “work”. per month, then the case clearly smells like crime? “About a little more established” - I already wrote above.

    From my point of view, our anti-drug legislation is too liberal. And about whether the hucksters get sufficient sentences, ask the question not to the hucksters and their ilk, but to the mothers and fathers whose children are drug addicts;... doctors trying to pump out drug addicts who have taken more than the norm;... citizens, who were robbed (robbed) by drug addicts trying to get funds for their next dose in any way (the increase in drug crime necessarily goes hand in hand with the increase in ordinary crime... why would this happen all of a sudden?). So there is no need to whistle about the ferocity of our state towards drug distributors, because this ferocity, unfortunately, does not exist. In China and Iran they lean against the wall, but here we don’t.... Lifetime maximum, and even then to characters you can’t get to...
    “...It’s not for nothing that Article 228 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is called “people's” - almost half of all Russian prisoners are imprisoned under it...”
    Is it time again? Can't you show me the statistics? It sits a lot, that's true. And why? But because crimes related to drug possession cannot be classified as complex. There is a dealer from whom the seizure of a certain substance has been properly documented. There is an expert’s report that describes what this “something” is and its weight. There are witness statements... there is a lot of things... That's all. The case went from the police to the prosecutor, and from there to the court. But the court somehow doesn’t send you to a sanatorium, you know, mainly for jail time. And he’s doing the right thing, since sanatoriums in our country are under a different department....
    And just don’t start the next moaning on the topic of “planted”, “Golunov” and so on. It happens... a family has its share of freaks. But the overwhelming number, according to Article 228 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, are FOR THE CASE!!!
  56. 0
    2 February 2020 22: 02
    Many thanks to Russia for returning Naama Issachar, but I would like to clarify where the cap and 9 grams are
  57. 0
    2 February 2020 22: 19
    Quote: Octopus
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Even the “transit zone” at the Russian airport is the territory of the Russian state.

    No.
    This territory is located outside the customs border of Russia.

    Oh really?! How then did her luggage get searched?
  58. 0
    2 February 2020 22: 41
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: tolancop
    And the baggage that crossed the customs border of the Russian Federation

    Customs border - the border of the territory of the state, within the framework of which a single customs legislation is in force. The customs border does not always coincide with the state / geographical border
    More details: https://customsforum.ru/glossary/tamozhennaya-granitsa.html

    In this case, baggage to the state border didn't cross. Then everything seems to be simple request

    So simple that you forgot to cover one question: on what basis and by whom was the luggage checked, which, as you claim, did not cross the border... And how was smuggling charged in this case?
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 22: 50
      Quote: tolancop
      on what basis and by whom was the luggage checked, which, as you claim, did not cross the border...

      More carefully please:

      Quote: Golovan Jack
      ... The customs border does not always coincide with the state / geographical border. In this case - luggage state border didn't cross

      What the customs was doing there - I have no idea. Most likely, they are within their rights and could have inspected the luggage.

      But to incriminate in this case smuggling - this is somehow too much. The “cargo” did not cross the state border of the Russian Federation. And I didn’t intend to cross.

      Correct, if I am mistaken wink
    2. 0
      3 February 2020 00: 56
      good question, but you asked it in the wrong place smile
  59. +2
    2 February 2020 22: 53
    Yes, the dog is with her. Let him smoke at home.
  60. 0
    2 February 2020 23: 08
    But they gave me a chance to quit.
  61. +2
    2 February 2020 23: 19
    The “guarantor” does not betray only his own people, and we, ordinary people of Russia, are not one of them.
  62. 0
    3 February 2020 00: 05
    Putin by this act fell in the eyes of many who sympathized with him... he was getting old or stopped hiding.
  63. 0
    3 February 2020 00: 17
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: tolancop
    on what basis and by whom was the luggage checked, which, as you claim, did not cross the border...

    More carefully please:

    Quote: Golovan Jack
    ... The customs border does not always coincide with the state / geographical border. In this case - luggage state border didn't cross

    What the customs was doing there - I have no idea. Most likely, they are within their rights and could have inspected the luggage.

    But to incriminate in this case smuggling - this is somehow too much. The “cargo” did not cross the state border of the Russian Federation. And I didn’t intend to cross.

    Correct, if I am mistaken wink

    Your ends do not meet.... First, you make an educated guess that the customs had their right to inspect the luggage, i.e. the luggage was on the territory of the Russian Federation, otherwise why would the Russian customs officers go over the hill... And then you claim that the smuggling is too much, since the cargo did not cross the border....
    Both the cargo and the Jewish woman crossed the state border, so what... I wouldn’t have gone under a serious charge otherwise. And the investigators justified the smuggling strictly, and the prosecutor and the judge agreed with this justification. The lawyer, however, I think, was caught, to put it mildly... not very well.
    1. -1
      3 February 2020 00: 59
      she did not receive this backpack, which contained hashish, and did not try to receive it
      that is, he simply would not have gotten to Russia under any circumstances.
      And the investigators justified the smuggling strictly, and the prosecutor and the judge agreed with this justification.

      well you're like a child
      The party said - the Komsomol answered “YES”! smile
      1. 0
        3 February 2020 12: 12
        And you, apparently, as an adult..... You know everything, you are aware of everything...
    2. 0
      3 February 2020 12: 31
      Quote: tolancop
      Your ends don't meet...

      Not for me. You.

      Quote: tolancop
      You are making an informed assumption that customs was within its rights to inspect the luggage, i.e. the luggage was located on the territory of the Russian Federation

      No. Once again, read carefully and understand well (c):

      1. Smuggling involves “cargo” crossing the state border.
      2. The customs border does not necessarily coincide with the state border.

      Something is not clear? wink

      Quote: tolancop
      You claim that the smuggling is too much, since the cargo did not cross the border....

      Exactly. Neither the cargo, nor even the “Jewish woman” crossed the state border of the Russian Federation. The transit sump at the airport is “abroad”.

      Quote: tolancop
      the investigators justified the smuggling strictly and the prosecutor agreed with this justification and the judge

      But there are questions about all of the above... but, most likely, neither you nor I will hear about this. And rightly so - there is no point in disturbing people in vain.

      Like this request
  64. 0
    3 February 2020 01: 01
    The law is that the drawbar is where you turn... (Folk wisdom)))
  65. +2
    3 February 2020 01: 47
    ))) why was it possible)))
  66. +4
    3 February 2020 07: 55
    Now Israel has the opportunity to once again declare to the whole world: Jews do not abandon their own and help them out of any situation

    Especially if the power of the Russian Federation belongs to them
  67. +2
    3 February 2020 08: 24
    No matter what they say, my opinion is for drugs to the maximum. This is too dirty a thing.
  68. 0
    3 February 2020 12: 30
    Because Putin is Jewish
  69. +6
    3 February 2020 12: 55
    Quote: Den717
    And with Maria Dapirka, not everything is so straightforward

    Maria Dapirko in 2014 with a “donated” suitcase before leaving Thailand


    Why did Maria, who flew alone from her permanent place of residence in Thailand via Singapore on a tour of Vietnam, need a suitcase of this size (the double bottom of which contained 1,9 kg of drugs) plus hand luggage (a leather bag with 0,9 kg of drugs)?

    Before that, Marina traveled together with her boyfriend from Nigeria for two years to almost all the countries of Southeast Asia - like covering for her boyfriend when he was transporting drugs.
    1. +1
      3 February 2020 19: 04
      This is a fairly ordinary suitcase, on the tape there are usually at least half similar
      Women pull out more under their outfits, it happens
    2. 0
      6 February 2020 07: 32
      For such a quantity of drugs there should be one punishment - only the death penalty.
  70. +1
    3 February 2020 23: 01
    Maria Dapirka from Rostov-on-Don

    Of course, you will excuse me.....but a batch of Cocaine is not “indulgence” in the form of a couple of grams of hashish.. Don’t you think? Was she framed? I framed myself! And there is no need to spin fairy tales saying that the unfortunate woman knew nothing...
    almost 3 kg of cocaine! He was imprisoned correctly and let him sit for life!
  71. -1
    3 February 2020 23: 06
    Moreover, 2 months ago Israel defiantly sent our guy to America, Cool! The impudence of GDP is off the charts
  72. 0
    3 February 2020 23: 41
    The girl was detained at Sheremetyevo airport when she was flying from Delhi to Tel Aviv. During the search, drugs were found on her. Naama Issachar received 7,5 years in prison.

    No one searched this girl or checked her luggage.
    When the suitcase was being transferred from plane to plane, a drug was discovered.
  73. +1
    4 February 2020 12: 03
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    .....Once again - read carefully and understand well (c):
    1. Smuggling involves “cargo” crossing the state border.
    2. The customs border does not necessarily coincide with the state border.
    Something is not clear? wink

    Are you suggesting that I read and understand your UNVERBAL statements?
    I suggest you read and understand the text of the regulatory document, in particular Article 229.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.... There you will find about the customs border.
    And to consolidate the material, I recommend reading “Resolution of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation dated April 27.04.2017, 12 N XNUMX “On judicial practice in cases of smuggling.”
    Work with primary sources, it is more reliable....

    z.y. I will not expand further on this topic.
  74. 0
    5 February 2020 11: 53
    [quote=Tatyana]she has obvious degradation!
    explicit or implicit, but Putin personally forgave her, and Benya took her to Israel on his plane to his missed mother. Anasha, I wonder if they returned it to her?
  75. 0
    6 February 2020 07: 29
    He did the right thing by releasing him; there is no point in keeping other people’s drug addicts in prison at state expense.
  76. 0
    10 February 2020 11: 50
    Gratitude was not long in coming:
    https://communitarian.ru/news/kriminal/pomilovannaya-putinym-evrejskaya-narkomanka-podast-na-rossiyu-zhalobu-v-espch_07022020
  77. 0
    20 February 2020 19: 44
    What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull.