Jews and Arabs could rally healthy Israeli nationalism


Israeli and Palestinian flags in Old Jerusalem. Photo by Mark Israel Selem (Jerusalem Post)



“Won the lottery”


Undoubtedly, the “deal of the century” announced by President Trump at the White House is the greatest diplomatic achievement of a right-wing religious Zionist Israel. Israeli Defense Minister Naftali Bennett said we won the lottery. "Deal of the Century" means US approval of the annexation of the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel in 1967.

The question remains, of course, to what extent the United States can influence the processes in the Middle East. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria - all this shows that America is not omnipotent there. The Palestinians received the worst offer they have ever received. Despite the words of an independent Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem, Jerusalem is immediately proclaimed a single city.

These are not even bantustans, as many write. Bantustans had a whole territory, and here is a patchwork quilt. I traveled to South Africa after the 1982 Lebanon War. The Israeli army sent delegations to exchange experiences there and borrowed a lot from their experience in population control.

Palestinians are required not only to carry out a “deal of the century”, but to prove their good behavior in every way. It is unlikely that the Palestinians will do anything. The only possible model of an “independent state” is ten years imprisoned in Gaza. Yes, and will anyone exercise? All the terms of Abbas’s presidency have long expired, and many believe that the Palestinian Authority’s administration will fall apart, and with it the security forces involved in maintaining order on an Arab street. Palestinians warn that this could trigger a new uprising - the intifada.

How much is the "deal of the century"?



Century Deal Card

The economic part recorded 50 billion. The amount, at first glance, is large, but unrealistic. There is a clause on individual settlements that will come under Israeli jurisdiction, and separate roads should be laid there. Their estimated cost could exceed 25 billion and cause a bunch of security problems.

In 1998, I interviewed the Deputy Minister of Defense of Israel, Efraim Sneh. He told me that the price of Israel in the deal was to pay for the modernization of the Israeli army, as was done after the 1973 Doomsday War. This is from 300 to 500 billion dollars. After all, they still ride jeeps of the 70s. Since then, the material and technical base of the Israeli army has not been radically updated; there was only patchwork of holes. Israeli operations in Lebanon and Gaza have exposed the severity of the problem. Parents of soldiers raised money for personal protective equipment.

Right-wing Israeli media outlets titled "Annexation Now." In fact, the right-wing nationalist project of Great Israel “Eretz Israel Slam” won, and now between the sea and the Jordan all Arabs in Ramallah, Hebron and Gaza are all Israelis and they have no other country. It is only a matter of time before they gain full civil rights.

Jews and Arabs - this is only one axis of the split of society in Greater Israel. There are also religious and secular, European Jews, Ashkenazi and Sephardi, immigrants from Muslim countries and many others. And Arab society has its own axis of contention. I’m not talking about social problems caused by globalization and neoliberalism. The Israeli state is rapidly becoming Arabized. The Israelis themselves do not like this word and prefer to talk about Levantinization, but geography is fate. On the territory of Great Israel between the sea and the Jordan, there are more non-Jews than Jews. Demography is also fate.

I often recall the phrase I heard from Shimon Peres: "Our past victories are the main source of our current problems."

It is possible that the greatest victory of the right religious Zionist project means the beginning of its decline. If we have to live in a single state, then in contrast to the religious Zionism that dominates Israeli politics, we need not a Zionist myth, but a healthy Israeli civilian nationalism that can unite all these groups into a single nation. Nationalism is not a good word today, but all states where it is more or less comfortable to live have gone through the stage of national construction. No one has yet shown another way. And if the national project failed, it turned out not Switzerland, but Syria or Somalia. And even if Jews can win the civil war, in Israel there are very few who are willing to pay the human and economic price paid by the people of Syria.
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  1. bessmertniy 2 February 2020 06: 25 New
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    The Jewish-Arab united state of Israel is a fantasy. belay You can recall that the mixture of snake and hedgehog is a barbed wire. request
    1. igor67 2 February 2020 07: 52 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      The Jewish-Arab united state of Israel is a fantasy. belay You can recall that the mixture of snake and hedgehog is a barbed wire. request

      Around the city of Karmiel, where I live 60 thousand people, 30% of Arabs, most of my neighbors are Arabs at my entrance, Arabs take me to work, half of them are Arabs, the doctors I go to are Arabs, the lawyer who issued me the apartment is Arab, A you are fantastic
      1. gorenina91 2 February 2020 08: 30 New
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        -Well???
        -Так вам сочувствовать ...или за вас радоваться ??? -Какое резюме ??? -Вы довольны этим ...или нет???
        1. igor67 2 February 2020 08: 39 New
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          Quote: gorenina91
          -Well???
          -Так вам сочувствовать ...или за вас радоваться ??? -Какое резюме ??? -Вы довольны этим ...или нет???

          I don’t care, the only thing annoying is that every three hours mullahs shout from mosques to loudspeakers, by the way it annoys both the Arabs themselves and the Druze and Arabs of Christians living in a place in one kfar (village),
          1. gorenina91 2 February 2020 09: 20 New
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            the only annoying thing is that every three hours mullahs shout from mosques to loudspeakers

            -Да уж...-теперь понятненько ... -Весь этот шумовой мусор может сильно достать...
            -Вообще ислам давно уже вышел за рамки "норм общежития" ... -Хоть "мирный ислам" , хоть радикальный... -Любой ислам уже по своей сути запрограммирован на скрытую агрессию , которая легко проявится буквально от любого незначительного инцидента...
            -Уж лично Я это знаю... -Вот кто бы мог подумать , что ранее мирные казахи (а живу Я в Зап Сибири) вдруг начнут так агрессивно себя вести... -причём раньше казахи сами по себе даже и не были ревностными приверженцами ислама ... -А что творится сегодня!!! -Многие из них отрастили какие-то мусульманские бороды и изображают из себя ревностных мусульман... -А как себя ведут ...и причём как эта "исламская молодёжь" себя ведёт ...-это просто ужас...-Могут врубить любую звуковую какофонию ...-и попробуй только сделай замечание ...-столько оскорблений в ответ... -А русскую мужскую молодёжь так могут просто избить...
            -А если учесть то , что рождаемость у казахов раз в пять выше , чем у русских ; да и семьи казахи создают очень рано (уже до 30 лет казашка может запросто иметь трёх детей...и больше...-это стало уже обыденностью) ...-то преобладание казахского (мусульманского) населения уже сегодня бросается в глаза... -А что будет завтра ???
            -Так что лично Я вас понимаю и сочувствую... -Думаю , что и вы мне...сочувствуете... -Можете не отвечать... -Ведь везде царят "политкорректность" и "толерантность" , которые уже начали превращаться в Инквизицию...
            1. igor67 2 February 2020 09: 33 New
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              Why will I answer, I have many friends from Kazakhstan, their relatives still live in Kazakhstan and from their words I know about the situation, especially when they came to Almaaty from the southern regions. They told how they treated them at the airport, now they no longer fly to their historical homeland
      2. Olgovich 2 February 2020 08: 30 New
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        Quote: igor67
        Around the city of Karmiel, where I live 60 thousand people, 30% of Arabs, most of my neighbors are Arabs at my entrance, Arabs take me to work, half of them are Arabs, the doctors I go to are Arabs, the lawyer who issued me the apartment was Arab

        But this is not Jewisharabic state: according to the Basic Law of Israel of July 19, 2018
        "Israel is the national state of the Jewish people; Jerusalem - ethe wild and indivisible capital of Israel. Negotiated official language, symbols of state, Jewish repatriation; "

        In this case, all Israeli citizens have equal rights.

        I completely disagree with the author:
        author: On the territory of Great Israel between the sea and the Jordan there are more gentiles than Jews. Demography is also fate.

        1. Not all non-Jews there are Arabs. Not all Muslim Arabs

        2. Jews are more Arabs

        3. The birth rate of Jews is higher, and mortality is lower than that of Arabs. That LCD with life expectancy .. The average Jewish family is approaching to the mark of 3,2 childrenand arab to 3,1. Despite the fact that Israelis are constantly growing, and the Arabs are falling.

        Jews, young people, think about the future of his people and the state.
        And not only at the level of government rulers, but at the level every family.


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        1. igor67 2 February 2020 08: 46 New
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          Рождаемость выше только в религиозных семьях, там 6-8 детей, бездельники и плодят таких же, арабы хоть работают, учатся, основные студенты в медицинских и других учебных заведениях арабы, толку с этой репатриации, если на минимальную зп содержать двоих детей трудно, о учебе это вообще вопрос сложный, у меня соседи арабы студенты приезжают на форд Мустанг, ауди А 6,
          1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 13 New
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            Quote: igor67
            Fertility is higher only in religious families,

            wrong in general.
            Olgovich is right. the tendency of the Jews is positive, the Arab is not equal.

            Arabs - in red
            Jews - blue
            1. igor67 2 February 2020 09: 29 New
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              В чем я ошибаюсь? Вы много знаете светских семей где шесть восемь детей? Не думаю. Я 16 лет прожил в Цфате, очень религиозный город, соседи ортодоксы, четверо детей только у молодых, ни кто не работает и не будет работать, за счёт их выше демография. Арабы просто поумнели , и уменьшили рождаемость в сторону качества, тоесть все средства на учебу,?на севере Израиля медперсонал , врачи и медсестры медбратья уже давно больше чем 60%, в других сферах такая же тенденция,
              1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 33 New
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                Quote: igor67
                What am I wrong about? Do you know a lot of secular families where six eight children?

                six not, but I know a lot of non-religious families with 3 children. many of them come from the USSR. there they were from families with two and often with one child.
                besides, the trend is not positive positive, the positive trend decreases, on average, higher than that of the Arabs.
                1. igor67 2 February 2020 09: 42 New
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                  Давайте вернемся к статье и коментарию, о том что арабы и евреи могут только в фантастике жить в месте, привожу пример для Бесмертного, мы сосуществуем , у нас в городе и не только много арабских сетей супермаркетов, очень крупных, автобусные компании очень крупные, по Северу семья арабскя Дабах контролирует производство мяса процентов 70, у них своя сеть супермаркетов Дабах, своё грузовое судно, и это жители деревни,
                  1. Olgovich 2 February 2020 10: 41 New
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                    Quote: igor67
                    Let's get back to the article.

                    The article also indicates the "sad" demography for the Jews, which turned out, according to the STATISTICS, to be fundamentally INCORRECT.

                    A subjective view is important, but it is not statistics.

                    PS my friends in Israel from the USSR: three have three children
          2. Bukhalov 2 February 2020 17: 47 New
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            Arabs in Israel, according to statistics, 22 percent, Jews - 74 percent. According to forecasts, by the 50th year Arabs will remain 15 percent, Jews 80 percent.
      3. Uncle Izya 2 February 2020 11: 10 New
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        It doesn’t mean anything in the thoughts of the Arabs anyway hatred and a little slack in the state they will manifest themselves
    2. DOT
      DOT 2 February 2020 08: 23 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      The Jewish-Arab united state of Israel is a fantasy.

      Well, why, Russia has a Jewish Autonomous Region with three Jews ..))))
    3. siberalt 2 February 2020 08: 37 New
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      Jews with Arabs differ only in religion. But someone is constantly pushing their foreheads together.
      1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 15 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        Jews with Arabs differ only in religion. But someone is constantly pushing their foreheads together.

        Georgians and Armenians argue. - Armenians are better than Georgians! - What? Well, what are they better ?! - Than Georgians.

        I understand that everything is clear to you there, but I insistently ask, call on us, see for yourself.
      2. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 10: 15 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        Jews with Arabs differ only in religion. But someone is constantly pushing their foreheads together.

        Mentality - radically different.
      3. Bukhalov 2 February 2020 11: 34 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        Jews with Arabs differ only in religion. But someone is constantly pushing their foreheads together.

        Well, why so peremptory:
        The homeland of the Arabs is the Arabian Peninsula, the homeland of the Jews is Ur of the Chaldeans;
        2. Jews and Arabs are ethnically related as Russians and Germans;
        3. Languages ​​are different, even the alphabet is completely, fundamentally different. There are Arabic borrowings in Hebrew slang, such as Habibi, Sababa, Sakhtein. Similarly, Russian words fell into the Uzbek language under the USSR, or English into Russian.
        4. History, culture, mentality, lifestyle, dress code - everything is different. Well, let's compare Heine, or Mendelssohn, Chagall and Levitan with any Arab character ....
    4. Paul Siebert 2 February 2020 09: 59 New
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      It amazes me how, in our mailbox, the idea of ​​a "Deal of the Century" proposed by Trump Palestine is being discussed for a week.
      Hours and hours of talk talk discussions.
      Dozens and dozens of comments of different rank of political scientists.
      We are not in Jaffa or Haifa.
      And the capital is still in Moscow, and not in Jerusalem. Russian we are! We would have something about our ... smile
      1. Evil543 2 February 2020 10: 15 New
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        Well then, due to the increased birth rate among Muslims, they will soon prevail in Eurasia, and in Israel Jews will be in a minority hi
      2. DOT
        DOT 2 February 2020 10: 15 New
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        Quote: Paul Siebert
        It amazes me how, in our mailbox, the idea of ​​a "Deal of the Century" proposed by Trump Palestine is being discussed for a week.
        Hours and hours of talk talk discussions.
        Dozens and dozens of comments of different rank of political scientists.

        "Our Media" has long been sitting under the Jews .. Gusinsky was kicked out with Berezovsky, but others remained quiet and not noticeable .... they spoil our souls with cute smiles, like Pozner, etc.
      3. Bukhalov 2 February 2020 11: 41 New
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        Quote: Paul Siebert
        It amazes me how, in our mailbox, the idea of ​​a "Deal of the Century" proposed by Trump Palestine is being discussed for a week.
        Hours and hours of talk talk discussions.
        Dozens and dozens of comments of different rank of political scientists.
        We are not in Jaffa or Haifa.
        And the capital is still in Moscow, and not in Jerusalem. Russian we are! We would have something about our ... smile

        In principle, it is logical. But what if the "Jewish question" causes the largest number of comments? And the popularity of VO is determined by this moment.
      4. ltc35 2 February 2020 12: 52 New
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        About ours will not. Taboo. We are doing well! But in Ukraine, in Israel and Syria, people live poorly. You need to talk about them. Sarcasm is all that was left to us.
    5. To be or not to be 2 February 2020 13: 57 New
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      "Jews and Arabs could rally healthy Israeli nationalism" fool
      1. "" "" "" "Nationalism is an ideology and a policy direction, the fundamental principle of which is the thesis about the value of a nation as the highest form of social unity, its primacy in the state-building process. Wikipedia" "" "
      2. "" "" "" "Israel - the national state of the Jewish people - the main law of the State of Israel, adopted on July 19, 2018. In July 2017, the Knesset Special Commission was created, headed by deputy Amir Ohana, who was developing the draft wording of the bill. Wikipedia" ""
  2. Pessimist22 2 February 2020 06: 28 New
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    Yes, let these Semites knead each other, I personally like it when they fight among themselves.
    1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 08: 34 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yes, let these Semites knead each other, I personally like it when they fight among themselves.

      there is a stable and a certain percentage of mental disorders in the population,
      part is treatable.
      1. Pessimist22 2 February 2020 09: 20 New
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        Yes, both Jews and Arabs have psychic deviations on the basis of religion.
        1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 28 New
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          Quote: Pessimist22
          Yes, both Jews and Arabs have psychic deviations on the basis of religion.

          but there are warriors who are afraid to do it themselves but from watching the action catch a buzz.
          do not ailment.
  3. Mar.Tirah 2 February 2020 06: 38 New
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    But who will let you live peacefully nice? The boiling Middle East is much more beneficial to the powerful of this world. Therefore, such slogans are put forward where one side will prevail over the other, so that the war for identity is eternal.
  4. DOT
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    Funny article! laughing
  5. Amateur 2 February 2020 06: 58 New
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    While the author was writing his article, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas announced that Palestine was ending relations with the United States and Israel, including in the security sphere. He said this during a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the League of Arab States in Cairo.
    1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 22 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      While the author was writing his article, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas announced that Palestine was ending relations with the United States and Israel, including in the security sphere.

      Abas so many times threw lamentations on this subject that recalls Mark who is Twain.

      "Quitting smoking is very simple. I've done it a thousand times!"


      where will they go? unfortunately they depend on us. electricity, water, sewage. their whole economy.
      Abas is shaking the air for journalists tired of him.
  6. Thrifty 2 February 2020 07: 16 New
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    Так вроде бы Аббасс заявил о разрыве из за этой сделки века отношений между израилем и сша с одной стороны, и пастинским государством, с другой стороны.Гляжу, наши правнуки будут жить на планете где будет одно государство, под названием израиль? ?? belay
  7. antiaircrafter 2 February 2020 07: 37 New
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    Nationalism is not a good word today, but all states where it is more or less comfortable to live have gone through the stage of national construction. No one has yet shown another way. And if the national project failed, it turned out not Switzerland, but Syria or Somalia.

    Straight about Russia.
  8. Anatole Klim 2 February 2020 07: 58 New
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    I had a chance to talk with a Jew who went to permanent residence in Israel, and then returned to Russia a couple of years later (this is not fantastic), so he somehow threw out the phrase that former Soviet Jews could find a common language with the Arabs, but they’re not the authorities yet, but the fallows are generally a mistake ... in short, not just there ...,
    1. Avior 2 February 2020 08: 36 New
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      left for permanent residence in Israel, and then returned a couple of years to Russia (this is not fiction)

      Was your acquaintance not from Krasnodar? smile
      1. Anatole Klim 2 February 2020 08: 46 New
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        Quote: Avior
        Was your acquaintance not from Krasnodar?

        No, we are from the Volga region, we are fine here .. Russians, Mordovians, Tatars, Chuvashs, Jews, Udmurts .. we live well!
        1. Avior 2 February 2020 09: 05 New
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          Got them two smile
      2. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 10: 21 New
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        Quote: Avior
        left for permanent residence in Israel, and then returned a couple of years to Russia (this is not fiction)

        Was your acquaintance not from Krasnodar? smile

        There are thousands of people like me in Russia. )))
        I will say this - if immigrants from the USSR came to power, the Palestinian state would be created very quickly. With an army, police, customs, whatever they want, weapons and a large territory. And very long sea borders. Ports and airports. Official diplomatic relations and military alliance with Iran and Syria. With developed tourism, Truth is only for the rich. After all, getting to Antarctica costs a lot of money ..
        1. Evil543 2 February 2020 11: 37 New
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          They will not survive there, but thermophilic.
        2. Avior 2 February 2020 16: 42 New
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          Well, for sure I know now about 2 cases :)
          The issue is difficult with the Palestinians
          They don’t really want to leave.
          And what about immigrants from the USSR ....
          Would it be the 16th republic? :)
          1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 16: 49 New
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            16 republic - no, but something like Bulgaria during the USSR - definitely. If it weren’t for the doctors, Khrushchev’s friendship with Nasser, etc.
    2. DOT
      DOT 2 February 2020 08: 45 New
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      Quote: Anatole Klim
      I had a chance to talk with a Jew who went to permanent residence in Israel, and then returned to Russia a couple of years later (this is not fantastic)

      Есть здесь такой Маз ..Как он евреев и Израиль кастерит тут ,те аж визжат )))
      He knows them from the inside, writes interestingly .. lol
      1. igor67 2 February 2020 10: 51 New
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        Quote: DOT
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        I had a chance to talk with a Jew who went to permanent residence in Israel, and then returned to Russia a couple of years later (this is not fantastic)

        Есть здесь такой Маз ..Как он евреев и Израиль кастерит тут ,те аж визжат )))
        He knows them from the inside, writes interestingly .. lol

        In fact, he’s just very offended by Israel, if you had watched him from his first comments, then from his words de-wife a Jew deceived him into Israel, his former military man wasn’t hired for normal work, the Arabs are paid more And so on ,
        1. DOT
          DOT 2 February 2020 11: 02 New
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          Quote: igor67
          In fact, he’s just very offended by Israel, if you had watched him from his first comments, then from his words de-wife a Jew deceived him into Israel, his former military man wasn’t hired for normal work, the Arabs are paid more And so on ,

          Yes, I remember him, he raised his rating and asked him to write more hi
          As for the offended, it’s not that .. He just didn’t feel at ease there .. He held on to his daughters, and then he spat on everything and returned to my Ukraine and did the right thing !!! !!!
          А его коменты это просто шедевры были ..Когда он расписывал их поведение,менталитет и т.д. Тут весь сайт ржал и я тоже wassat crying
          Members of the forum from Israel even threatened him .. That something was gone. Maybe that?
          1. igor67 2 February 2020 11: 07 New
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            He did not return, he also lives in Israel, wrote two weeks ago how he saved his car in the rain
            1. DOT
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              Quote: igor67
              He did not return, he also lives in Israel, wrote two weeks ago how he saved his car in the rain

              Well that’s good, let him sit there in the den lol ..Can write something!
    3. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 23 New
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      Quote: Anatole Klim
      I had a chance to communicate with one Jew

      chatting with one more. Learn a lot of interesting and new.
      as the Jews say - two Jews, three opinions.
      1. DOT
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        Quote: Maki Avellevich
        as the Jews say - two Jews, three opinions.

        And three Jews, you can open a bank .. laughing
        1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 10: 26 New
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          One Englishman is a gentleman. Two Englishmen are betting. Three Englishmen - House of Lords.
          One African American is a gangster.
          Two - a fight
          Three - Bonnie Em
          One Jew is a point of sale
          Two - World Chess Championship
          Three - a decade of the Tajik language and literature in Moscow (s)
          1. DOT
            DOT 2 February 2020 10: 43 New
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            One Jew is a point of sale
            Two - World Chess Championship
            Three - a decade of the Tajik language and literature in Moscow (s)

            And seven, Russia can be controlled. (Semibankirshchina in the 90s). hi
            And here's a catch-up ..
            Отец Бунина ,царский офицер эмигрировал в Париж и на пероне его куча журналистов справшивает " Ну как там в Советской России ,советская власть,везде установилась ?
            Bunin briefly and to the point "No Jews in all of Russia were not enough ..!"
            hi laughing
            1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 11: 01 New
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              Now lovers of the USSR will be nominated laughing The power of the Soviets and the Jews - how dare you? am
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                Quote: Krasnodar
                Now lovers of the USSR will be nominated laughing The power of the Soviets and the Jews - how dare you? am

                Well, Comrade Stalin was able to count the Jews and keep in check
                Это потом они уже расплодились из Ташкентского фронта в Москве ..!
                Well, now on the site, as you have already become a general in Krasnodar .. Well, of course, but before people like you and especially the Professor went to turtles))))
                Не удивлюсь ,если тут все евреи Израиля и прочии в маршалах будут ! И шо будете делатть .друг с другом ругаться ? wassat crying Who is the main Jew here?
                1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 13: 38 New
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                  As for the Tashkent front - tell your elders, alas, friends who died dead from a binge - policemen - Vlasovites - others)). The main Jew here is a certain Mikhan, a graduate of the military department of the Institute of Cutting and Sewing, an agent of the Jewish Agency Sokhnut, prompting Jews to repatriate to Israel thanks to the creation of the illusion of anti-Semitism in Russia on the forums of the VO site. Do you know this? wink
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                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    As for the Tashkent front - tell your elders, alas, friends who died dead from a binge - policemen - Vlasovites - others)). The main Jew here is a certain Mikhan, a graduate of the military department of the Institute of Cutting and Sewing, an agent of the Jewish Agency Sokhnut, prompting Jews to repatriate to Israel thanks to the creation of the illusion of anti-Semitism in Russia on the forums of the VO site. Do you know this? wink

                    Heard a lot .. hehe he miss looking at it ..? laughing
                    Зачем так истерить уважаемый ?
                    1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 13: 45 New
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                      I'm not hysteria, just nostalgia tortured crying His luminous appearance of a combat drunk, tormented by the Jewish lobby of VO, will forever remain in the soul of every Zionist hi
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                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I'm not hysteria, just nostalgia tortured crying

                        It happens hi
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        His luminous appearance of a combat drunk, tormented by the Jewish lobby of VO, will forever remain in the soul of every Zionist

                        Well, you can’t argue with you if he is MIKHAN so impressed with your "thin favorites" ..Tut you need to have talent! bully crying
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                        Talent sea - hehe heh - genomes smells of booze, exposes the Jewish conspiracy in VO ..))
    4. Okolotochny 2 February 2020 12: 03 New
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      Japatsstalom! Well done you. Like your comments with a healthy sense of humor. But not all)))
  • parusnik 2 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    The economic part recorded 50 billion.
    ....To each? smile
    1. Avior 2 February 2020 08: 39 New
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      За 50 млрд каждому срочно очень многие бросятся искать у себя арабские корни и проходить для этого нужные процедуры. smile
      I suspect that in Israel itself too, especially since they don’t have to go through the procedures for this smile
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      The economic part recorded 50 billion.
      ....To each? smile

      If so, then Israel would immediately be renamed the Arab People’s Republic .. lol
  • Lamata 2 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    Never will there be peace between Jews and Arabs. Utopia.
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      Quote: Lamata
      Never will there be peace between Jews and Arabs. Utopia.

      Ну Русские умеют примерять народы ! А еврейский вопрос нам уже данво знакомый ,если бы не США ,мы бы Израиль раскатали и примерили с арабами ..Целовались бы при наших пулеметчиках ..)))
      And at the UN assembly including !! bully
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        At the same time, machine gunners, besides 30 rounds fired after basic training, would be able to draw satire in the wall newspaper, revealing the black essence of Zionism. And paint the grass. lol In a desert ))
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          Quote: Krasnodar
          At the same time, machine gunners, besides 30 rounds fired after basic training, would be able to draw satire in the wall newspaper, revealing the black essence of Zionism. And paint the grass. lol In the desert))

          How do you know that ..? wink
          1. Krasnodar 2 February 2020 16: 55 New
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            I communicate with people)).
      2. Bukhalov 2 February 2020 17: 30 New
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        Quote: DOT
        Quote: Lamata
        Never will there be peace between Jews and Arabs. Utopia.

        Ну Русские умеют примерять народы ! А еврейский вопрос нам уже данво знакомый ,если бы не США ,мы бы Израиль раскатали и примерили с арабами ..Целовались бы при наших пулеметчиках ..)))
        And at the UN assembly including !! bully

        "Пушка 15-ть ,прицел 120-ть ! Бац-бац ...и мимо".( Ария героя М. Пуговкина из к/ф "Свадьба в Малиновке"). Товарисч , прежде чем постить ,желательно изучить вопрос. Хотя бы поверхностно.
        США ,да будет Вам известно ,Израиль не поддерживали ни в "Войне за Независимость" , в " Синайской кампании " выступили вместе с СССР против Израиля. В "Шестидневной войне" , Президент США Линдон Джонсон убеждал Аббу Эбана :" Не действуйте в одиночку и Вы не останетесь в одиночестве". И это в то время ,когда Египет блокировал проливы, полностью закончил на Синае дислоцирование всех ВС, а Сирия с Иорданией замкнули кольцо огненных фронтов вокруг малютки Израиля.Население которого составляло на тот момент 1.7 млн. человек,вместе с арабами кстати . Франция - основной ,а по сути единственный поставщик вооружений Израилю ,наложила эмбарго на поставку уже оплаченного оружия. И штаты пальцем не шевельнули. Ещё и шпионили в пользу арабов ( инцидент с судном "Либерти ") В "Войну Судного дня" в 1973 году , неделю тянули с поставками вооружений ,в то время как СССР по минутам восполнял потери арабских подшефных...Обама напакостил Израилю за восемь лет столько ,что ни в сказке сказать ,ни пером описать. А уж если придется ,то только матом. Но Израиль выжил. Так что не стоит на зеркало ,то бишь на штаты кивать ,коли СССР кексанул ,поставив на арабов. Потому что по словам Л. Парфенова( ч.3 документального фильма "Русские евреи" ) ,даже не представлял с каким противником он связался ,не выпуская евреев в Израиль. И поддерживая арабов. Позиция СССР была откровенно проарабской и по существу Союз находился де факто в состоянии войны с Израилем. И расчеты ПВО были из СССР и авиаполк и специалисты всех родов войск , по количеству равные штатным армиям. Просто не сладили .
  • Jurkovs 2 February 2020 08: 39 New
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    It was necessary to think about this in 1947, when the Jews, after the genocide committed by the Nazis, began to think about their state. But then the Jews, instead of becoming the defender of all the oppressed small nations, attacked their own nationalism and quickly slipped into genocide over the Palestinian people.
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      Quote: Jurkovs
      It was necessary to think about this in 1947, when the Jews, after the genocide committed by the Nazis, began to think about their state.

      Comrade Stalin miscalculated, giving the go-ahead for the creation of Israel ..
      He hoped that Israel would be a counterbalance to the Anglo-Saxons and their influence on the BV .. But alas, they quickly got over, and then they started to flee the USSR and not empty-handed.
      1. Maki Avellevich 2 February 2020 09: 25 New
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        Comrade Stalin miscalculated, giving the go-ahead for the creation of Israel ..

        have passed. let's get to the point.
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          have passed. let's get to the point.

          Yes, what matters with the Jews may be Avelievich .. lol ..
          Israel has one goal to water the Arabs .. Iran is left alone and grace comes .. Is that so?
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            Israel has one goal to water the Arabs.

            "watering the Arabs" is not the goal.
            the goal is self-preservation, development, reproduction.
            if someone interferes with these goals, then he is defined as an “enemy” and then urinates as much as possible, even if he is in the outhouse.
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              Quote: DOT
              Israel has one goal to water the Arabs.

              "watering the Arabs" is not the goal.
              the goal is self-preservation, development, reproduction.
              if someone interferes with these goals, then he is defined as an “enemy” and then urinates as much as possible, even if he is in the outhouse.

              Yes, everyone in the know is already in the world .. You’ve already driven it into everyone’s “world media” .. That’s Iran and Russia, which do not agree with your tactics of self-interested behavior.
              While we are holding on, and there we will see it will not be offended if that .. hi
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                Quote: DOT
                While we are holding on, and there we will see it will not be offended if that ..

                no problem. on offended carry all sorts of things.

                one thing is not clear. why do you position yourself / us as enemies?
                in Israel, the average layman can see Russia as an aggressive, unceremonious, country of bears in the streets. may suspect that Russia is unfriendly to Israel, but as a rule it (on average) does not see its enemy in the Russian people (despite the history of friendship and assistance to Israel’s enemies).
                а вы как то наоборот.
                Come to us at the end of May. warm but not hot. look at the sea and at the sepulcher of the Lord, and all that jazz. people look, show yourself.
                drinks
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        Comrade Stalin miscalculated, giving the go-ahead for the creation of Israel ..

        He believed that Palestinian Jews are such bearded guys who blow up English hotels. Who knew that this would turn out.
    2. Octopus 2 February 2020 10: 22 New
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      Quote: Jurkovs
      It was necessary to think about this in 1947, when the Jews began to think about their state after the genocide organized by the Nazis.

      Have you fallen from the sky? Jews have been thinking about their state far from the 47th year.
      Quote: Jurkovs
      protector of all oppressed small nations

      Comrade Stalin was the protector of all oppressed small nations, Jews there unnecessarily.
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      А в чем геноцид -то ? В том ,что арабы живущие на территории Израиля- бесспорно самые образованные на арабском востоке ? В том ,что пользуются всеми льготами ,в том числе и при приеме на работу ,не служат в армии? И при этом имеет место быстрый рост арабского населения Израиля , увеличивается продолжительность жизни. Ведь "Сделка века" и ее неприятие арабами предполагает создание собственного -22- го, арабского государства. Так в чем же дело. А в том ,что арабы ни за какие коврижки не слезут с еврейской шеи. Уж очень они хорошо там устроились.
  • Zeev Zeev 2 February 2020 08: 43 New
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    Не статья, а бред сивой кобылы. Такое впечатление, что человек ее писавший, живёт в 1982 году
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      the man who wrote it

      He came to Israel from Lviv in 1974. Engaged in all kinds of nonsense. He completed cook courses in Switzerland and worked in his specialty. Since 1994 he has been writing in various Russian-language newspapers (most of them are yellowish) ... this is from Wikipedia.
      Such an author is such an article.
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      lives in 1982

      I also remembered Jimmy Carter))
  • rocket757 2 February 2020 08: 48 New
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    They can give a lot of money, but this will not be enough, not enough, not enough!
    There no one agrees to the "deal of the century" they will strangle their !!!
    A large viper clew ..... and ALL, ALL should be outbid!
  • Aviator_ 2 February 2020 08: 49 New
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    Interesting note. And Perez - just saying aphorisms
    “Our past victories are the main source of our current problems”

    Is this the same figure that Cast Lead organized?
  • sagitch 2 February 2020 09: 02 New
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    Mixed marriages, that’s the way to go to peace.
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      Quote: sagitch
      Mixed marriages, that’s the way to go to peace.

      вот вы пойдите и лично смешайтесь с арабами. а мы потом с вами в мире будем жить.
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        He will not be easy to mix with the Arab woman.
        But on the contrary, to have Orthodox children from an Arab or Muslim, you often observe the situation
  • K-50 2 February 2020 09: 19 New
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    According to DNA research, Jews and Arabs are brothers. The material is on YouTube, tag Anatoly Klyosov
    1. Avior 2 February 2020 09: 53 New
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      And the Russians and the Russians are all the more so since it didn’t stop after 1917 to go against each other with bitterness sad
      So this is hardly an argument
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      Quote: K-50
      According to DNA research, Jews and Arabs are brothers.

      all people are brothers in DNA so what?
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    1. Nonna 2 February 2020 10: 02 New
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      Arseny - a fresh idea from you - Arabhost. All Muslims of Russia will like it. The "obscurantists" -arabians already in the 8th century had a library of Cordoba with 250 thousand volumes. In the XII century, when in Western Europe there were only two universities (in Salerno and Bologna), in only Muslim Spain (the Cordoba Caliphate) there were 70 libraries and 17 higher schools, in which, among other disciplines, medicine was also taught.
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        Вот я как раз пару дней как из Кордобы в частности и Андалузии (Севилья) вообще.
        I agree with your every word. Until the middle of the last millennium, Arabs were much wiser, more educated and tolerant of the peoples around them. Buildings (fortresses and mosques) are simply amazing. All - Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together / mixed up (non-Muslims paid a non-Muslim tax - small) - the Andalusian caliphate flourished.
        Something happened to Muslims / Arabs and they began to lag behind the Europeans? It is unclear, but the fact remains - the technologically Muslim world in the margins (objectively) and culturally the same (subjectively)
  • Shahno 2 February 2020 11: 20 New
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    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: igor67
    What am I wrong about? Do you know a lot of secular families where six eight children?

    six not, but I know a lot of non-religious families with 3 children. many of them come from the USSR. there they were from families with two and often with one child.
    besides, the trend is not positive positive, the positive trend decreases, on average, higher than that of the Arabs.

    Yes, I agree. Repatriates from the Russian-speaking geographical space (who repatriated in the 90s) aged 40 and more per cent.70 have more than 3 children in a family or 3 ...
    All the same, the mentality, as it were, has not yet changed to the Judeo-Middle East, and children are raised without fear ... which is not observed among Russians in the post-Soviet space. That is, all the same, Israel is perceived as a reliable place for raising children.
  • Operator 2 February 2020 11: 44 New
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    The American plan aims to liquidate the Palestinian state, because what is supposed to be created is a classic Indian reservation without the right to have its own armed forces and conduct foreign policy. The vast majority of Palestinian enclaves are cut off from the border with Jordan by annexing coastal lands along the Jordan River. In essence, this is a plan to create cultural autonomy for the Palestinians and to include their territory in Israel.

    Until the Palestinians buy this plan, the UN decision of 1947 on the borders of Jewish and Arab states in Palestine is in effect. Any state that violates established borders without the consent of the parties is an aggressor under the UN Charter.
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    I would rephrase the headline. Sons of Abraham enough already ... laughing
  • Shahno 2 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    Quote: Paul Siebert
    It amazes me how, in our mailbox, the idea of ​​a "Deal of the Century" proposed by Trump Palestine is being discussed for a week.
    Hours and hours of talk talk discussions.
    Dozens and dozens of comments of different rank of political scientists.
    We are not in Jaffa or Haifa.
    And the capital is still in Moscow, and not in Jerusalem. Russian we are! We would have something about our ... smile

    In principle, it is logical. But what if the "Jewish question" causes the largest number of comments? And the popularity of VO is determined by this moment.

    Definitely not in Jerusalem. King Richard thought so or ... Well, learn from mistakes .. You say everything about the geographical capital ..
  • Nikolaevich I 2 February 2020 13: 43 New
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    What will it be? belay "Give a single National Socialist Party of Israel!"? fool
  • Engineer 2 February 2020 14: 21 New
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    It seems to me that the success of the event depends on only one thing: how great is the demand for peace in Palestinian society, are they tired of the endless intifada. On the other hand, the Palestinian armed groups seem to have no use for the world. Intifada is the only justification for their existence. Acceptance of the deal of the century means recognition of defeat. It is unlikely that they will go to such a
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    Just like German Nazism was combined with Italian fascism.