Turkey intends to build a military base in the vicinity of the Libyan capital

Turkey intends to build a military base in the vicinity of the Libyan capital

Turkey intends to build its own military base in Libya. According to Libyan media, citing military sources, Ankara has already begun negotiations with the Government of National Accord, which controls the Libyan capital.


According to the information provided by Al Arabiya TV channel, the new Turkish military base may be located near Tripoli, it is planned to deploy units of the Turkish special forces and the Turkish Navy. In addition, the base will be equipped with a runway and a communications point. During the negotiations, the PNS announced its desire to purchase military aircraft and drones in Turkey. Most likely this condition will go into the deal.

Amid these negotiations, appeared news that on Thursday, Turkey transferred militants from Somalia and Kenya to Libyan territory and concluded the first deal with the PNS to supply air defense units and tribes fighting on the PNS side that were not specifically reported.

Earlier, the arrival of a cargo ship in the port of Tripoli was accompanied by two Turkish warships, which delivered armored vehicles to Libya, including Tanksas well as the Turkish military.

Recall that Ankara concluded an agreement with the PNS, in which Turkey promised to support the "legitimate" government of Libya, providing him with comprehensive support, including military. What Saraj promised for this is not known to Erdogan.
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  1. Guru 31 January 2020 10: 57 New
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    The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.
    1. Evdokim 31 January 2020 11: 00 New
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      Erdogan is trying to make tracing paper from Syria. hi
      1. Olgovich 31 January 2020 11: 10 New
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        Quote: Evdokim
        Erdogan is trying to make tracing paper from Syria. hi

        Mayhem ...

        WHAT the West has done there and WHAT it led to .... negative
        1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 12: 47 New
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          It’s your fault that I want to eat
          Olgovich. not look there. Is there a power vacuum right now - a fact? Tripods are everything. China - not yet. You see. what will happen if the power is dumb? Here and the Turks - the norm
        2. Deniska999 31 January 2020 12: 53 New
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          Well done Erdogan. He spit on the rest. Does as he needs.
          1. Kleber 31 January 2020 13: 48 New
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            For example, a Russian bomber hits. In this he is also well done?
            1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 14: 10 New
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              Politics is a dirty thing. Tell for Hiroshima and the base on Okinawa? Or for the never-convicted “butcher” Harris? Even in Iraq, he made a gallows, in the 20s, then there were more corpses.
              And how is Great Britain in Europe then? I can not hear?
              1. Kleber 31 January 2020 14: 20 New
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                The fact that politics is a dirty thing - I agree. Hiroshima, Okinawa, Hariss and what you don’t hear is not related to Erdogan.
                1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 14: 37 New
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                  Sorry. what exactly does it have? Genocide in the form of concentration camps for the Japanese? Or didn’t they use peaceful bombing - after all, nobody used nuclear weapons ... Is this for the sake of cooperation with the US JAPolises? Well, I don’t know how anyone there has anyone - not an amateur, you know ...
                  Ah, maybe you are talking about Harris? Let me remind you that in the 20s he distinguished himself in Iraq so much that his then Minister of Colonies didn’t know him? Such an ordinary surname ... Churchill - he called in many words for the murders of just a peaceful man! And then, becoming the prime minister, he was appointed commander in chief of the bombers!
                  Well what are you. This has nothing to do with my opinion that politics is a dirty thing ...
                  And Churchill, by the way, translate the name - on the track:
                  I do not think that a dog in the hay has exclusive rights to this hay, even if it lies on it for a very long time. I do not recognize such a right. I do not recognize, for example, that some great injustice was committed in relation to the American Indians or to the natives in Australia. I do not admit that these people were harmed as a result of the fact that a stronger race, a more advanced race or, in any case, a wiser race, so to speak, came and took their place.

                  Sorry, I can throw a zighail only with a knife in my hand ... YOU are easier and more familiar
                  1. Kleber 31 January 2020 14: 40 New
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                    Quote: Cowbra
                    I'm sorry, I can only throw a zighail with a knife in my hand ... YOU are easier and more familiar


                    What is this drunken courage? Who is it for you?
                    1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 14: 46 New
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                      KleBer ... I tried to stupidly show the dirt ... Which is stupidly known. But - "smile and wave."
                      You see ... Bullshit to discuss this topic here - bullshit - and worse somewhat different. Do you know when the phrase "Homeland will not forget you, but h. Remember"? Yes, do not care. I am not for memory and not for tsatski. Goida!
            2. Deniska999 31 January 2020 15: 35 New
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              Well done in terms of promoting state interests. Let's do without pressure on emotions.
            3. NEOZ 31 January 2020 17: 01 New
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              Quote: Kleber
              For example, a Russian bomber hits. In this he is also well done?

              but the plane was shot down not by Erdogash ...
              the plane was shot down by order not of Erdogan, but of the one who wanted a cut between Turks and Russians!
        3. Staroshil 31 January 2020 17: 19 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          Quote: Evdokim
          Erdogan is trying to make tracing paper from Syria. hi

          Mayhem ...

          WHAT the West has done there and WHAT it led to .... negative

          Turkey is a member of NATO .. ​​I think the Turks there will come off to the fullest ...
          In vain Erdogan climbed there, although it may be better than there the USA will rob with France ...
          You look there and Russia will pull up unofficially .. Livia is an excellent springboard for pressure on the EU, etc.
          Quote: NEOZ
          but the plane was shot down not by Erdogash ...
          the plane was shot down by order not of Erdogan, but of the one who wanted a cut between Turks and Russians!

          We figured this out and did not raise the noise ..
          And remember then our ambassador was soaked in the open .. There must already be a war, but thank God
          Understood where the ears stick out ....
          They will be responsible for these monstrous provocations, the world on the verge of a nuclear war almost did not put the bastards bloody schemers ..
      2. cloud catcher 31 January 2020 12: 45 New
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        Sarajah is supported by Italians, USA and Great Britain, Turkey and Qatar. Haftar has Egypt, France, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, Russia (formal equidistance from the parties to the Libyan conflict), and China.
        But ... "On January 19, a conference was held in Berlin on a Libyan settlement at the level of heads of state and government, including the Russian Federation. In the final document, its participants called for a ceasefire, pledged to refrain from interfering in Libyan affairs ..."?
        But he did not abstain, but in vain. The sea knot of world interests and internal and contradictions is tied even more strongly.
      3. Paul Siebert 31 January 2020 15: 19 New
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        The mustachioed learns from Putin.
        He is thinking of “liberating” Benghazi, as we did with Aleppo ...
        I think it will not work, the navel will tear.
        Let it swing on the translivian swing ... wink
    2. NEXUS 31 January 2020 11: 43 New
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      Quote: Guru
      The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.

      Erdogash still did not leave his dreams about the revival of the Ottoman Empire. I think that very soon he will get his hands on either from us or from the USA.
      1. maidan.izrailovich 31 January 2020 11: 56 New
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        Erdogash still did not leave his dreams about the revival of the Ottoman Empire. I think that very soon he will get his hands on either from us or from the USA.

        Not gonna get it. Neither from Russia nor from the USA.
        From us he will not get bogged down for many reasons. The main one is economic. Turkey is more important for Russia in economic terms than Libya.
        With the USA it’s still easier. Erdogans come and go, and Turkey as a NATO country remains. Therefore, it is beneficial for the United States and for the alliance as a whole that a NATO country will have a military base at this point in the world. This factor is more important than all the differences between Turkey and the United States. And in this situation, the United States will also help Erdogan. They will tame both Egypt and the Saudis so that they do not climb.
      2. Doctor 31 January 2020 14: 45 New
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        Erdogash still did not leave his dreams about the revival of the Ottoman Empire.

        He has other concerns.
        The country has just had an attempted coup.
        On the border with the state there is a war initiated by extreme Islamists, who also wanted to include Turkey in their state.
        A quarter of the country's population (Kurds) themselves want to secede and form their own state.
        The main patron (USA) turned away.
        NATO support is doubtful.
        At the moment, the old enemy (Russia) turned out to be the only ally, but letting him strengthen in the region is also scary.

        Now he is not up to the empire. Not to lose what is.
    3. RUSS 31 January 2020 12: 31 New
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      Quote: Guru
      The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.

      Libya was once part of the Ottoman Empire, and now Erdogan is ready to pump oil there
      1. NEOZ 31 January 2020 17: 04 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        Erdogan is ready to pump oil there

        without control (access) of oil there can be no independent state
    4. Gray brother 31 January 2020 12: 48 New
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      Quote: Guru
      The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.

      Egypt will not like this - they have made a bet on Haftar and they have a common border with Libya.
      They don't like the idea of ​​“exporting revolution."
      1. Guru 31 January 2020 14: 00 New
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        I ask myself, "Is Kennedy's fate awaiting Erdogan?"
        1. Gray brother 31 January 2020 14: 22 New
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          Quote: Guru
          I ask myself, "Is Kennedy's fate awaiting Erdogan?"

          It is unlikely that he does not drive in convertibles.
    5. Warrior with machine gun 31 January 2020 13: 03 New
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      A hundred years have passed since they were kicked out of there, you can try to return if the situation is suitable, Libya itself decided something only with the colonel, the rest of the time they always wanted to take advantage.
    6. svp67 31 January 2020 19: 12 New
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      Quote: Guru
      The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.

      They want to repeat our "Syrian experience", well, let's see, see ...
      1. Staroshil 31 January 2020 19: 25 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Guru
        The Turks thoroughly decided to settle in Libya.

        They want to repeat our "Syrian experience", well, let's see, see ...

        What is Sergey to watch here? Libya is them not the Kurds under the control of Russia to wet ..
        They will give Erdogan a tinsel there .. There is really a risk that the United States will begin to piracy there, as always ..
        The main thing is to leave Syria .. Turkey there fulfilled its mission hi ..
        1. svp67 31 January 2020 19: 29 New
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          hi
          Quote: Staroshil
          The main thing is to leave Syria .. Turkey there fulfilled its mission

          It’s stupid to wait. Rather, to wait for them to do this on their own, they will have to "help" .... Turkey "remembered" about its "imperial past" and decided to reappear in the "lost" territories ...
          1. Staroshil 31 January 2020 19: 53 New
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            Quote: svp67
            hi
            Quote: Staroshil
            The main thing is to leave Syria .. Turkey there fulfilled its mission

            It’s stupid to wait. Rather, to wait for them to do this on their own, they will have to "help" .... Turkey "remembered" about its "imperial past" and decided to reappear in the "lost" territories ...

            I doubt Sergey .. The Turks are not the same, judging by Syria .. there is no fighting spirit of the real "imperial" ..
            And in Libya, for sure, by ... Although it is possible they agreed with the USA ..
            And if they find out, then they will definitely beat with stones and sticks ..
            Such a country was plundered, not democratic. But still the social sphere was there
            1. svp67 31 January 2020 19: 59 New
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              Quote: Staroshil
              The Turks are not the same, judging by Syria .. there is no fighting spirit of the real "imperial"

              But Erdogan is full of this “spirit” and history knows many examples when one person could “make” whole nations or nations
              Quote: Staroshil
              And in Libya, they surely ...

              This is now “no man’s land”, which was once Turkish, so moreover, there is oil and WATER, and there is something to fight for.
              1. Staroshil 31 January 2020 20: 06 New
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                Quote: svp67
                But Erdogan is full of this “spirit” and history knows many examples when one person could “make” whole nations or nations

                It's hard to argue .. We in Russia know this like no one else hi
                Quote: svp67
                This is now “no man’s land”, which was once Turkish, so moreover, there is oil and WATER, and there is something to fight for.

                But it’s better to send and support Turkey’s ambitions to Libya than they will be present in Syria ..
                We have our showdown here and the Turks have no place here .. Already agree Sergey! hi
                P / S The comrades from Israel can smell it, it is not in vain that there are so many of them gathered here and they are doing sweeps .. lol
                1. svp67 31 January 2020 21: 01 New
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                  Quote: Staroshil
                  It's hard to argue .. We in Russia know this like no one else

                  Well, not only we ...
                  Quote: Staroshil
                  We have our showdown here and the Turks have no place here .. Already agree Sergey!

                  The Turks have their own opinion on this and it clearly does not resemble ours ...
                  Quote: Staroshil
                  Comrades from Israel can smell it, it’s not in vain that there are so many gathered here and mopping up is done ..

                  They have their own opinion on this and it is often not similar to ours ...)))
                2. Oquzyurd 1 February 2020 00: 32 New
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                  “Each cow has its own pasture”, “There is a garden behind the house” Now think about who has a pasture and where is the garden? What has developed over the centuries can be changed temporarily, but it will not have constancy, since the "cells" are different, from and to.
            2. Oquzyurd 1 February 2020 00: 16 New
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              "I doubt Sergey .. The Turks are not the same, judging by Syria .. there is no fighting spirit of a real" imperial "in them." Apparently you missed the part that the Turks in Syria deal with the two great powers of the world, the Russian Federation and the United States. Given this fact, they are more successful in Syria.
  2. vladcub 31 January 2020 11: 08 New
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    Sultan Saraj himself needs as an old condom. If tomorrow Saraj lose Tripoli, then the Sultan will forget about him immediately
    1. alexmach 31 January 2020 11: 32 New
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      Only now he vryatli him with such support will lose something. The Turks entered Libya very seriously and will probably quite successfully repeat the Russian Syrian scenario.
      1. Sky strike fighter 31 January 2020 11: 49 New
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        It was reported that the Turkish military landed in Tripoli. However, we do not forget that Egypt is next to its powerful army by regional standards. Egypt, like Israel, is Haftar’s allies. Haftar, in which case he can also ask for help, but Turkey is far away, and Egypt borders on Libya. So it is doubtful that Erdogan will be allowed to get hold of Libya. In Egypt, they understand who was behind the Muslim Brothers and Mursi, he is the Turkish bridgehead in Libya at its borders is not needed. Saudi Arabia and Israel also supported in their time the overthrow of the Mursi, they are also Muslim Brothers in Libya, and even less so in Egypt.
        1. bessmertniy 31 January 2020 12: 02 New
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          Erdogan wants to have oil. Therefore, he will now hold his teeth to expand his influence in Libya and sit on the wells. repeat
          1. vladcub 31 January 2020 14: 48 New
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            The trouble is that EVERYONE wants to sit on the wells. In Libya, so far, that Haftar is in his hands and he least wants to give it to someone
          2. Staroshil 31 January 2020 19: 28 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy
            Erdogan wants to have oil. Therefore, he will now hold his teeth to expand his influence in Libya and sit on the wells. repeat

            Rather, it’s not about oil, it’s just that Erdogan’s historic suddenly boiled up .. Sultan of the Turkish Empire sensed himself (with Russian support so far)))) well ..
            Let him go to Libya and not bother us in Syria .. bully
        2. alexmach 31 January 2020 12: 13 New
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          Egypt is nearby, but whether he decides to act there, and even at full strength. The offensive on Tripoli has been going on for half a year already, and what has Egypt helped them greatly in this offensive? The essence of modern warfare of low intensity is to rake the heat with the wrong hands.

          Now look at the situation in Syria. Russia climbed there without having common borders with it, unlike Turkey, and even being very limited in transport capabilities. And Turkey was just abroad. So what? The main thing here is decisiveness of actions and the opportunity to consolidate an alliance with you, and among other things, an internationally recognized government. All.
          1. Sky strike fighter 31 January 2020 12: 28 New
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            Bashar al-Assad did not seek to seize power in Turkey and establish the power of the Alawites, but Erdogan, who is in the Muslim Brotherhood camp, will try to restore the power of the latter in Egypt. Turkey considers the overthrow of Mursi illegal, and this will only be possible if there is a bridgehead in Libya. Anyway, Egypt is a tidbit in the Arab world. Power over Egypt is necessary if Erdogan seeks to lead the Muslim world instead of Saudi Arabia using the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, regarding Egypt’s determination, see the link below. It’s easier for Egypt to support Haftar in Libya, than later in my country to have problems with the Muslim Brotherhood, supported from Libya.
            https://politexpert.net/180924-ucheniya-vs-egipta-qader-2020-stali-reakciei-na-vmeshatelstvo-turcii-v-liviiskii-konflikt
            1. alexmach 31 January 2020 15: 54 New
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              Very interesting information. It turns out that maybe they really clash there. But Erdogan, too, a cunning one, sent meat from Syria there mainly and special forces.
              1. Staroshil 31 January 2020 19: 31 New
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                Quote: alexmach
                Very interesting information. It turns out that maybe they really clash there. But Erdogan, too, a cunning one, sent meat from Syria there mainly and special forces.

                So yes. Losses he is afraid. Like the Yankens ..
                And Russia just right, let them collect theirs from Syria and Libya .. And then we are already tired of wetting them)))
        3. donavi49 31 January 2020 12: 30 New
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          It didn’t pass, but the confirmed information, even photo-videos are already coming.

          Even Firtins are being taken.


          Well, all this under the guise of the fleet. Building up is a matter of soon. Local and Syrian meat + army officers + army crews + separate units (or rather tactical groups) as a whole.



          Egypt is still silent, but the UAE is reacting intensively. Perhaps BMP3 / Leclerc in a battle with the UAE crew will see. The flights simply jumped 37 flights (11 of them Ruslan) Ilom76 / Ruslan for 14 days (sample January 12 to 26).

    2. maidan.izrailovich 31 January 2020 11: 59 New
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      If tomorrow Saraj lose Tripoli ...

      Fantasy not tired?
      If Haftar had the opportunity to take Tripoli, he would have done it six months ago. Over the past six months, he has no more strength.
    3. donavi49 31 January 2020 12: 24 New
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      Haftar the final and decisive assault on Tripoli in June began. So far, there has not been much success. Of the major successes of Haftar since the summer, only Sirte. And then, the UAEshy shahidishak passed loaded with dough - as a result, 1/3 of the troops defected (partially moving to Haftar). Well, then panic, races, etc. Traditionally for local and not only.

      And now they rested again. To really develop the offensive does not go yet.
  3. cniza 31 January 2020 11: 09 New
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    Against the backdrop of these negotiations, news appeared that on Thursday Turkey transferred militants from Somalia and Kenya to Libyan territory and concluded the first deal with the PNS to supply air defense units and tribes fighting on the PNS side that are not specifically reported.


    The Sultan is not childishly unfolding.
    1. rocket757 31 January 2020 11: 12 New
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      Quote: cniza
      The Sultan is not childishly unfolding.

      Psissa high flying! Will fall high and soft-boiled.
      1. cniza 31 January 2020 11: 14 New
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        If they let me fly, but he has a desire. hi
        1. rocket757 31 January 2020 11: 16 New
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          There is a desire, he also has some possibilities ... that is, only to cut him everything and everything is to whom. Both inside and out.
          1. bouncyhunter 31 January 2020 11: 45 New
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            Hello namesake! soldier drinks
            Quote: cniza
            The Sultan is not childishly unfolding.

            They will put their faces in the corner - it will be childish. yes
            Quote: rocket757
            that's just to cut him everything and everything is to whom. Both inside and out.

            Erdogashi’s imperial ambitions are comparable to those of Poland and Poland: they turn off the brain in the same way (if there is one) wink ) and self-preservation instinct. wassat
            1. rocket757 31 January 2020 11: 53 New
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              hello Pasha soldier
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              the instinct of self-preservation

              The sultan in his, t.s. habitat, the crocodile is not caught, peas do not grow .... he is still stubborn, brave ... dirty trick. But there is no other, there, no, "play" has to be with such ... fellow traveler.
              1. bouncyhunter 31 January 2020 11: 57 New
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                Quote: rocket757
                you have to “play” with such a companion.

                As I said a couple of days ago: you can’t turn your back on this pseudo-Sultan - it’s shaking the scimitar! yes Already, probably, the muskrats understand what goals the farther has in Syria and Libya, and in general in the region ...
                1. rocket757 31 January 2020 12: 10 New
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                  There is no "Sultan" a real Ataturk ... the father of all Turks. He has internal problems above the roof, but from the side they still add problems! So sho spins him spinning ... can even start a war game, where, as he suggests, you can win especially without straining.
                  In short, we'll see.
                  1. bouncyhunter 31 January 2020 12: 14 New
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                    Quote: rocket757
                    There is no "Sultan" a real Ataturk ... the father of all Turks

                    But where is he going to Mustafa Kemal? wink
                    Quote: rocket757
                    can even start a war game, where, as he suggests, you can win especially without straining

                    No matter how he ambitions himself to dig a trench two meters deep with such ambitions. And then after the next "heap" GDP may forget to warn ...
                    Quote: rocket757
                    In short, we'll see.

                    Wow, we’ll see ...
                    1. cniza 31 January 2020 12: 54 New
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                      Greetings Pasha! hi In an interesting time we live, a new "landscape" of countries and influences is being built, and Turkey has been our "partner" for centuries ...
                      1. bouncyhunter 31 January 2020 12: 59 New
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                        Quote: cniza
                        Turkey has been our "partner" for centuries ...

                        Many "partners" have long been called in accordance with the color of the skin and the size of the fangs. Yes, here you go: diplomacy, anchor it into the clus ... sad
                      2. cniza 31 January 2020 13: 02 New
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                        So, where to go while we are talking politely, and how things will continue to depend on the behavior of the “partners”.
                2. mammadov teymur 1 February 2020 09: 07 New
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                  so on Russi internal problems are also higher than the roof that does not interfere is on BV
        2. Sky strike fighter 31 January 2020 15: 25 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          There is a desire, he also has some possibilities ... that is, only to cut him everything and everything is to whom. Both inside and out.

          France sends its ships to the Eastern Mediterranean to deter Turkey. Greece welcomes France’s move.
          http://newsru.co.il/mideast/30jan2020/navy_202.html
          1. rocket757 31 January 2020 18: 50 New
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            Conflict of interest! Moreover, there is oil there!
            1. Oquzyurd 31 January 2020 19: 40 New
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              Libya has more valuable, fresh water for Africa. Scientists have long claimed that under the Libyan desert there is a Sea of ​​fresh water. Whoever owns Libya will dictate its terms in Africa in the future. By the way, Libyan oil is second in the world quality. First place in quality Baku oil Azeri Light.
              1. Karen 31 January 2020 19: 53 New
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                Quote: Oquzyurd
                Sea of ​​fresh water. Who will own Libya, he will dictate his conditions in Africa in the future.

                Oguz will dictate not only in Africa but also in Europe ... He said earlier ... A week after the discovery of fresh water - Gaddafi said that Libya came to an end: Europe will not allow its competitor in agriculture ...
                1. rocket757 31 January 2020 21: 09 New
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                  All this p-fe!
                  Tell me WHO IS YOUR FRIEND !!!
                  Assad FRIEND chose the right!
                2. alexmach 1 February 2020 00: 58 New
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                  Europe will not allow itself to compete in agriculture ..

                  Yes, what other competitor in the CX, what nonsense.
                  First, what is desert agriculture
                  Secondly, what kind of competition is there, Europe is working on its domestic market, securely closed by norms from external players.
                  1. Karen 1 February 2020 08: 07 New
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                    Quote: alexmach
                    First, what is desert agriculture

                    The sand itself in this desert is very nutritious for use in agriculture ... It is not just that the main preacher in Egypt on creating mega-irrigation by the waters of the Nile claims that in the realization of his plans ... his name / glory will eclipse the names / glories of the pharaohs .. .
                    1. alexmach 1 February 2020 23: 27 New
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                      The sand itself in this desert is very nutritious for use in agricultural

                      sand in the Sahara? Are you really something?
                      And in Egypt, the agricultural sector is already one of the engines of the economy ... only a small part of their territory is only suitable for cx.
                      Even if suddenly something would become good with s / x what next? what would they do with the products according to yours? Have you eaten many times more? Starving in Africa fed b?
                    2. Karen 3 February 2020 08: 11 New
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                      Yes, the Sahara sand itself contains a lot of mineral salts ... There will be a crop there - there will be buyers for the currency ...
                    3. alexmach 3 February 2020 11: 07 New
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                      Excuse me, which plant grows on some “mineral salts” then?
                      But even if we assume that this is so, who do you think will be the buyer of this crop?
                    4. Karen 3 February 2020 11: 34 New
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                      Quote: alexmach
                      But even if we assume that this is so, who do you think will be the buyer of this crop?

                      A delicious fruit will certainly find its way to Europe ... A matter of time ... For an example ... You can tell me that Italians haw a tasteless apricot for 1 euro / kg ... And they counteract the creeps of the Armenian, citing as an argument that they don’t so handsome in appearance, as they are used to, and set the condition for selection precisely in appearance ... Do you think our path will not break its way? Over time, it will definitely hit ... Here, for example, the Dutch have already fussed, though not in a "pure" form, but for juice and alcohol for now ...
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                      And they counteract the creeps of the Armenian, citing as an argument that they are not as beautiful in appearance as they are used to, and set the condition for selection precisely in appearance ...

                      That's exactly what I’ll point out.
                      Do you think our path will not break its way? Over time, it will definitely strike ...

                      I think that it will not break, because it is for this that these norms have been introduced. If your peaches make their way there and even turn out to be better (which by the way is far from a fact), then the one who grows peaches in Italy will be out of work. And who needs it and why?
                      Here, for example, the Dutch have already fussed

                      The Dutch? and why do you align yourself with them, the Dutch are their own, you are not.
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                      Quote: alexmach
                      If your peaches make their way there and even turn out to be better (which by the way is far from a fact),

                      At the V forum on apricots in Torino, it was our apricot that was recognized as the best in quality / taste ...

                      Quote: alexmach
                      The Dutch? and why do you align yourself with them, the Dutch are their own, you are not.

                      I did not express myself clearly? The Dutch are already steadily buying our apricot ...
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                      At the V forum on apricots in Torino, it was our apricot that was recognized as the best in quality / taste ...

                      Not a specialist in agricultural, but it seems to me that the forum and the mass product are very different things.
                      I did not express myself clearly? The Dutch are already steadily buying our apricot ...

                      And .. is that what I wanted to ask, that is, somewhere you managed to sell these apricots? OK, clear. Only the Dutch for juice yet?
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                      OK, clear. Only the Dutch for juice yet?

                      Rather, they drive vodka out of its juices.
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Not a specialist in agricultural, but it seems to me that the forum and the mass product are very different things.

                      Well, as it was called, a forum or a type of congress, I already forgot ... It’s kind of a competition for producers ... And specifically for our apricot - they set the selection condition in appearance ... It is clear to everyone that this will affect quality in a negative direction ... They do not want to compete ...
  • maidan.izrailovich 31 January 2020 12: 05 New
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    Will fall high and soft-boiled.

    Anyone can fall soft-boiled. We are all mortal. This is not the main thing.
    Even if Erdogan suddenly dies of cancer tomorrow, the Turkish base will still remain in Libya. After all, this is not the ambition of Erdogan alone. His policies are supported by many in Turkey. Including among the Turkish elite.
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      His policies are supported by many in Turkey. Including among the Turkish elite.

      There, as well as everywhere, different sides, ambitions, Wishlist. As elsewhere, whoever will be next will push his policy upstairs ... not determined in advance.
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      After all, this is not the ambition of Erdogan alone. His policies are supported by many in Turkey. Including among the Turkish elite.

      This thought is very sound and correct. And actually quite universal. The same can be said about Trump and about the same Dzhoson, I hope that about Putin.
  • Oquzyurd 31 January 2020 14: 07 New
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    By the way, about the flight. A few days ago, several Turkish F-16s flew to Libya and returned almost the same route. It is interesting that they flew 20 meters above the sea, flew over the Greek islands and created a panic, after the Greeks realized that the Turks through they flew, moreover, back too. In the Greek media they said that we weren’t sewn up before the Turkish pilots, since it’s too late when we spot them. They make incredible, risky flights over the sea.
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      they flew 20 meters above the sea

      The risk is justified or not.
      With the Greeks as it is not clear. Do they seem to be shifting to minke whales in their “beloved wives”? Big Daddy does not intend to supply them with advanced systems, no?
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        So far, they are supplying, with a gift, the old UAE helicopters, they will be served by specialists from Israel, but the Greeks will pay them. As a result, it is not clear what they will receive, they still pay for repairs and spare parts, and the UAE is freed from trash.
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          They choose, find ... problems.
  • askort154 31 January 2020 11: 11 New
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    What Saraj promised for this is not known to Erdogan.

    Erdogan realized that in Syria he could not resist. SAA "took up" Idlib, the last bastion of pro-Turkish SSA and the undefeated "barmaley". Now I decided to catch on in Libya.
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      Yes, and the whole rabble throws there.
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      What Saraj promised for this is not known to Erdogan.

      On the contrary. What did Erdogan Saraj promise? I can even guess. Most likely he was promised that he (Saraj) would live to a very old age and die his death. In Libya, anyone will be devoted to serving such a thing.
  • knn54 31 January 2020 11: 31 New
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    In addition to the Sarraj’s formations, the union with the Turks does not support anyone.
    Residents of Tripoli take to the streets to protest against the union. Many politicians and tribes consider this union a betrayal. Rallies against Turkish aggression took place in Benghazi, Tobruk, Shihat, Al-Marge, Tarhuna, Al-Asabia. The Omani colonialists will not have a fun life, given the position of the Arab League.
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      Residents of Tripoli take to the streets with protests against the union. Many politicians and tribes consider this union a betrayal.

      Late to drink Borjomi ....
      Where were they all when Gaddafi was overthrown?
      Rallies cannot stop aggression. They didn’t want to fight for Gaddafi, now they won’t.
    2. protoss 31 January 2020 12: 18 New
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      In addition to the Sarraj’s formations, the union with the Turks does not support anyone.

      Well, so-and-so-called “sarraj formations” are controlled by the most densely populated areas of this desert country, about half of the population is now under them.
      the fact that in the regions under the control of the rallies rallies do not suit the indicator at all.
    3. Kleber 31 January 2020 13: 55 New
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      What is in the hands of Haftar.
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      Of the real 6.3 million population of Libya, 4 million live under the control of Saraj.
  • Zaurbek 31 January 2020 11: 31 New
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    But what if Haftar bombed her?
    1. donavi49 31 January 2020 12: 21 New
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      Only if the UAE. The Turks have already brought Hawks. Enough for the Khaftarovsky MiGs, a complex for them was created. Plus from the sea, 2 Perry frigates with Standards are confirmed.

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        Or Egypt .....
  • Cowbra 31 January 2020 11: 41 New
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    Pan-Turkism ... It was to be expected. One thing is unclear - this is really a vulnerability at the moment. Or, for the same reason - a provocation. pass a pawn
    1. protoss 31 January 2020 12: 09 New
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      Pan-Turkism ... It was to be expected.

      what is it for? just meaningfully blurt out.
      Pan-Turkism is here sideways, in Libya, the Arabs, even if one of them is with Ottoman (not necessarily Turkish) ancestors.
      1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 12: 27 New
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        How is it in the series "Liquidation"? - I respect you for bold conversations - but tfu is under your feet!
        Boy. firstly, you whisper what pan-Turkism is. And if there’s enough RAM - play a joke - but Erdoогan.
        In short - materiel. Look stupid
        1. protoss 31 January 2020 12: 52 New
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          those. essentially, the old man has nothing to say.
          1. Cowbra 31 January 2020 13: 34 New
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            Boy. You showed that you do not understand. what is "pan-Turkism", and what does Erdogan have to do with it. Well, start catching stupid trolls?
            How is Erdogan different from Ataturk?
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              How is Erdogan different from Ataturk?

              I’ll note it from the outside ... I think that Erdogan is much smarter than Ataturk (even though he was a Jew) ... Ataturk was just lucky that his relatives of the Bolsheviks came to power in RI and began to help him hard ... And then .. . recall the answer of Kemal himself to the question of his nationality: "It doesn’t matter who the person was born - more important than who he became." And here he was even more fortunate - he was outbid by France for the sanitary cordon from Bolshevism ...
              And so - having a million ethnic Turks in Libya, it’s a sin not to try to make it Turkish ...
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                Maldets ... You know how to read pedagogy. The difference is that the father of the Turks winked He sought to create an empire from different nations, and Erdogan vomits to mono-ethnic. You didn’t earn a cookie, sloppy, Karen ... The truth is pedovikia, and you didn’t even understand there
                1. Karen 31 January 2020 19: 47 New
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                  As you can see, you’re a “writer”, but not a reader ... Mustafa’s father was one of Jewish shabadniks ... The only thing is that he didn’t adhere to the traditions of shabadniks, since Cherkassk’s wife was an ardent Muslim ... And what empire was from different nations Kemal created? His task was to save Turkish in Asia Minor ... And yes, he destroyed a million Kurds in the late 20s ... Read at least a wiki, since you won’t get to the books ...
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                    Ali Ryza's father and mother, Zübeide, were purebred Turks. Originally from the province (there is also the city of the same name) Soke. The family later moved to Solonik. By your logic, if Ataturk (like all personalities) is not an Armenian, then he is a Jew laughing Why all this? Are you bored of constant plagiarism and misinformation? Where 3 million Turks chopped down by the Turks were buried altogether. Please indicate one of the 600 burials in which at least 5000 Armenians were buried.
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                      I adhere to the version that voiced ...

                      As for the Armenians chopped down by the Turks ... I told earlier about the story that the grandson of Dzhemal came here and met with the grandson of the killer Dzhemal ... But one woman from the displaced warned Dzhemal: “Dzhemal! We have sons in Russia, and they will avenge us! "... And it was her son who shot him in Tiflis ...
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                2. protoss 31 January 2020 21: 12 New
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                  eccentric, I see you finally do not know about Turkish affairs.
                  Kemal just completely moved away from the Ottoman cosmopolitan tradition, its task was to save the Turkish nation in the conditions of the collapse of the empire and defeat in the WWII. therefore, a course was taken on a national (and somewhere even a Nazi) state. this task was successfully accomplished by him and his followers, the Turks did not disappear, but rather they multiplied in the 20th century, so Kemalism is no longer needed. Erdogan returns Turkey to the imperial path as he sees it, and this just implies multi-ethnicity (there were no mono-ethnic Turkic empires).
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                    there were no mono-ethnic Turkic empires

                    Moreover, they have never been mono-ethnic anywhere. Empire in itself implies multi-ethnicity.
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                      Not this way. Ataturk existed in an empire in which multi-ethnicity WASN'T, the dominant nation of the Turks was, and among others, for example, the Armenians, the policy of genocide was state, and the empire was, do not confuse. The existence of different nations in the empire is not multi-ethnic, if the rest of the nations are slaves. Erdogan lives in the country, and is trying to expand it to an empire, and in this empire again introducing the principle of Turks - not a Turkish citizen, but a Turk - one who is Turkish by nationality. That is, it acts exactly the opposite of Ataturk's actions. But this ... Readers of pedagogy, they are funny called - explaining this is useless.
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                        Ataturk existed in an empire in which multi-ethnicity WAS NOT

                        Turtsya Ataturk is no empire. This is precisely the national state, on the ruins of an empire, completely in the spirit of the political ideas of the 20th century.
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            The troll is caught. By the way, protases are amoeba. Unicellular, as I said wink
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          Actually, the head of the pan-Turkists in Turkey is Devlet Bahceli. Erdogan is anyone, but not a pan-Turkist.
  • This vindictive Erdogan turned out to be.

    Looks like he didn’t like the phrase that he won’t get off with tomatoes alone.

    He sets ultimatums for us according to Ildib, invades the zone of our interests in Libya, builds a backup channel for the Bosphorus, reduced the number of pipelines to two ...
    Then also with our S-400s, the sky will close us there.

    Eh, it was not necessary to forgive him Peshkov.
    1. Sky strike fighter 31 January 2020 12: 54 New
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      So the SAA approached Idlib at a distance of about 15 km, to Serakib 2 km, Khan Tuman, Rashidin 5, Rashidin 4, that is, the oporniks who had stood for years surrendering at an incredible speed, were freed. How can Erdogan not be indignant. The Syrian party, which lasted for so many years, is losing. If they take Idlib, that's all, comedy is a comedy. Loss of face. All plans for Syria are down the drain. Again, this is dangerous for himself, you might think that Akella missed. That's the reaction so nervous . After all, they promised the new Syrian constitution to Russia and Iran, and suddenly the knight's move. In fact, they throw a partner.
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        Is this in the context of Libya? Or how ?
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        https://www.facebook.com/groups/359201894856337/permalink/614358016007389/
        It will be interesting to see.
        The complete refutation of your speculation.
  • Thrifty 31 January 2020 11: 58 New
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    Ottomans want to restore the empire? Has history taught anything? How could this adventure not be the beginning of the end of Turkey as a state!
    1. protoss 31 January 2020 12: 12 New
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      Ottomans want to restore the empire? Has history taught anything?

      but in more detail, what kind of history (maybe yours?) should have taught them something (again, what?).
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      Yeah ... Taki end ?! Didn’t you become funny?
  • Operator 31 January 2020 13: 28 New
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    the green of world interests and internal and contradictions is tied even stronger

    The situation in Libya is becoming increasingly beneficial for the Russian Federation (which is above the battle) - the United States, Britain, Turkey and Qatar against Egypt, France, Saudi Arabia and the OAU.

    The split of NATO, the EU and the Arab Gulf countries plus the deportation of ISIS terrorists from Syria to Africa in one bottle bully
  • vladcub 31 January 2020 15: 00 New
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    If they let me fly, but he has a desire. hi

    And desire means a lot
  • Ros 56 31 January 2020 17: 11 New
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    Oh how, but they don’t want someone else’s base near Istanbul? They must be beaten there in the tail and in the mane and sentenced - do not go to the land in someone else's garden.
  • bald 31 January 2020 21: 16 New
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    Whatever they might say, remember the story of who Turkey was for us, before and now. This is an affectionate viper, although poisonous snakes, at the level of instinct, do not betray. There is no faith. These are the same occupiers as fascism - states and Turks. Not a pass, not a United Nations, nothing can do - puppets of the enemies of Russia - they need to be beaten, and we are all teddy bears - ashamed and insulting, as Vereshchagin said. FOR THE POWER SORRY.
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      Why don’t we hit that? Or hit the clave so that the letters are already erased? laughing
      1. bald 2 February 2020 11: 26 New
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        The question is not correct, I do not give commands, or does not reach.
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          That's when you give orders and commands, then we will continue .... I hope it comes.
  • Altai72 1 February 2020 16: 53 New
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    [quote = svp67] [quote = Staroshil] there is oil and WATER, but there is something to fight for. [/ quote]
    And the Turks, about 25% of the population of Libya.
  • lvov_aleksey 1 February 2020 20: 03 New
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    Hello.
    wanted to keep silent, but the last chat comment killed me. If you remember the quote from Vereshchagin, it’s a shame for the state. You want to say that we should be everywhere and everywhere? But we are not star-striped, what kind of provocation?
  • lvov_aleksey 1 February 2020 20: 05 New
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    Quote: bald
    Whatever they might say, remember the story of who Turkey was for us, before and now. This is an affectionate viper, although poisonous snakes, at the level of instinct, do not betray. There is no faith. These are the same occupiers as fascism - states and Turks. Not a pass, not a United Nations, nothing can do - puppets of the enemies of Russia - they need to be beaten, and we are all teddy bears - ashamed and insulting, as Vereshchagin said. FOR THE POWER SORRY.

    Hello.
    wanted to keep silent, but the last chat comment killed me. If you remember the quote from Vereshchagin, it’s a shame for the state. You want to say that we should be everywhere and everywhere? But we are not star-striped, what kind of provocation? Striped ones are not the same either.