The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

The head of the MiG corporation and the UAC deputy head for military-technical cooperation, Ilya Tarasenko, will also head the Sukhoi company. This was reported by Vedomosti with reference to two top managers of defense enterprises and a source close to the government apparatus.


The de facto issue with the appointment has been resolved - Tarasenko’s candidacy has been agreed by the parties concerned, de jure the official appointment will be held shortly

- writes the edition.

Interfax confirms this information, citing its sources. It is reported that the purpose of appointing Tarasenko is to create a military division aviation Jab. The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

As previously reported, a meeting of the Sukhoi board of directors was scheduled for Thursday, at which it was planned to consider the issue of the resignation of CEO Igor Ozar and choose a new leader, but the meeting was adjourned until next week.

Vedomosti writes that Tarasenko is well acquainted with the Sukhoi company, since in 2005-2009 he was the director of the Sukhoi free directorate, and in 2014-2016 he headed the Sukhoi Civil Aircraft. In 2009-2014, he worked at MiG Corporation, where he traveled from the Director of Program Coordination for MiG to the First Deputy General Director. In 2016, Tarasenko returned to MiG as the CEO of the corporation.
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  1. maxim947 31 January 2020 10: 21 New
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    Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.
    It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
    Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.
    1. Svarog 31 January 2020 10: 31 New
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      The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

      Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment .. But I agree with Maxim that different schools with their own approaches and traditions and what kind of competition should be left ..
      1. Lexus 31 January 2020 10: 59 New
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        Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment ..

        Serdyukov is just a “family” appointee. The next "successes" of the "tandem" and their partners. The destruction of the space industry and helicopter engineering have not yet been completed; they decided to arrange a pogrom in aviation as well. Already decided that the "dried up" MiG of Russia will be enough. Judging by the convulsions, the grandiose funeral of the industry as a whole is just around the corner.
        1. Svarog 31 January 2020 11: 06 New
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          Quote: lexus
          Serdyukov - just a "family" appointee

          Already about Serdyukov, even writing is disgusting. And not only on it .. we don’t spit anywhere, everywhere are “professionals” in mastering ... Yesterday Navalny’s video looked about the new premiere .. In general, everything is hopeless ..
          1. Lexus 31 January 2020 11: 16 New
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            Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

            Here, some still have rainbow illusions that ^ Roskomnadzor ^ absolutely nothing to do with it, and all the "nits" are exclusively nuggets.
            1. Svarog 31 January 2020 11: 26 New
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              Quote: lexus
              Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

              Here, some still have rainbow illusions that ^ Roskomnadzor ^ absolutely nothing to do with it, and all the "nits" are exclusively nuggets.

              I am surprised by people who still have rainbow illusions .. I understand that there are those who work out the fee .. but how can one not see the obvious? The same Navalny because everything is laid out on the shelves, clearly argued .. and most importantly, no one argues with him ..
              1. Golovan Jack 31 January 2020 11: 32 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                Bulk because everything is laid out on the shelves, clearly argued ..

                good laughing good

                Quote: Svarog
                and most importantly no one argues with him ..

                Well, almost no one argues with you either. Did not notice? wink
                1. maxim947 31 January 2020 11: 39 New
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                  to see the obvious and to see what you want to see are completely different things.
                2. bk316 31 January 2020 15: 04 New
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                  Well, almost no one argues with you either. Did not notice? wink

                  Bravo!
              2. Yarr_Arr 31 January 2020 12: 12 New
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                Without touching anything else ... "The same Navalny, because everything is laid out on the shelves, clearly argued ..." .... Navalny is absolutely incompetent (without proof) throws a feces on the fan. Argument at his level "Do you see a gopher? And he is there! Because it can not be otherwise." And Excel tablets on the screen. Like "the whole country hides Mishustin."
              3. Nikolai Grek 1 February 2020 20: 47 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                The same Navalny, after all, puts everything on the shelves,

                what and after that his shelves are reasonably smashed to smithereens !!! wink laughing
          2. lucul 31 January 2020 12: 02 New
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            Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

            Why ? After all, your "owner" was closed, at the time))))
            Let me remind you - it was Serdyukov - who opened a case against Khodorkovsky and put him in the end. No one had more eggs ....
          3. Yura 31 January 2020 12: 46 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Yesterday Navalny’s video looked

            Bulk?
          4. Nikolai Grek 1 February 2020 20: 46 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Yesterday Navalny’s video looked about the new premiere ..

            what Interesting, you donate to him ??? repeat wassat
      2. Edik 31 January 2020 11: 21 New
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        Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment.

        Yes! Just write that after Serdyukov the Russian army entrenched in the second step in the list of the most combat-ready armies in the world.
        And no more comments!
        I guess he still turned out to be more understanding than you, in this matter drinks
      3. alexmach 31 January 2020 11: 27 New
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        What kind of competition is it? The competition in the 60s and 70s was in a country that built thousands of aircraft. Now, on the one hand, they are working in different segments, on the other, collaborating on the most promising topics.
    2. Invoce 31 January 2020 10: 32 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.
      It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
      Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

      This character decided to remove ALL Moscow Management companies of aviation corporations from Moscow (many of them historically have their own territory, which was allocated at the time of their creation by I.V. Stalin), motivating that there are too many Management companies (OKB, etc.) in Moscow. ... It seems that the territory is the main reason for making a decision. There are many shopping centers, but there are no families owned by those involved in the decision to reduce everything. Academies and staffs have already been reduced, hiccups so far ... Military schools have been reduced by ...%, left alone for the military branch ... Now the blow is delivered to aircraft builders of military equipment, civil aircraft construction was destroyed in the 90s, it is trying recover at the Irkutsk AZ (MS-21) ... Here it is the policy of the EP, Medvedevskaya personnel and economic policy .....
      1. CT-55_11-9009 31 January 2020 15: 13 New
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        Quote: Invoce

        This character decided to remove ALL Moscow Management companies of aviation corporations from Moscow (many of them historically have their own territory, which was allocated at the time of their creation by I.V. Stalin), motivating that there are too many Management companies (OKB, etc.) in Moscow. ...

        I won’t say for the territory of Sukhoi, but the MiG Design Bureau is located in one high-rise building. You can admire - the Voykovskaya metro station, and there you can walk for hundreds of meters. By the way, Yakovlev Design Bureau, as far as I know, is huddled on the three or four top floors of the same building.
        Quote: Invoce
        Now a blow is being inflicted on aircraft builders of military equipment, civil aircraft construction was destroyed in the 90s, it is trying to recover a little bit at the Irkutsk AZ (MS-21) ...

        I will say this: MiG (namely KB) is a sinecure, ideal for students in terms of gaining seniority, because in the 2013-16th there was almost no work there, at least in those departments where my classmates worked. In the 14th they tightened the screws and stopped taking students (which is a pity, I didn’t have time to go there ...). If the pace of work is the same on Sukhoi, then such optimization is understandable.


        But in general, yes, such “unions” themselves look dumb and are carried out on their own. And the fact that this is conducted by Serdyukov is even more scary.
        1. Engineer 31 January 2020 19: 31 New
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          I will say this: MiG (namely KB) is a sinecure, ideal for students in terms of gaining seniority, because in 2013-16 there was almost no work there

          Sinecure- high paying A post that does not require any effort.
          In the 13th year, university graduates at the MiG Design Bureau received 20-25 thousand. First-hand information. Salaries, you know, are very low. People who visited the building and got acquainted with the material and production base (my leaders at that time) summarized that the MiG is dead.
    3. Starover_Z 31 January 2020 10: 38 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition.

      In order to disperse the latest designers under the guise of unification, merger, cost savings ....
      That's just the question - and who benefits from this ?! Do you need an answer or what?
      1. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 27 New
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        Quote: Starover_Z
        In order to disperse the latest designers under the guise of unification, merger, cost savings ....
        That's just the question - and who benefits from this ?! Do you need an answer or what?

        The answer is not needed, and so it is clear that Serdyukov and Tarasenko in two chairs will create something similar to the “Farman” whatnot of the WWI. Experience in whatnots and stools is great.
    4. Starover_Z 31 January 2020 10: 46 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

      For such, you need to carry out "optimization"! Oprichniki from the FSB!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 31 January 2020 10: 50 New
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        The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

        I, choked on my ears, threw a spoon. not something ... nasty and not tasty ..
    5. Chaldon48 31 January 2020 11: 06 New
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      Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?
      1. Gray brother 31 January 2020 11: 28 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?

        The words "holding" and "corporation" apparently are not familiar to you.
      2. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 32 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?

        Well, if you used to say that “a cook and a laundress can manage, not just the kitchen and laundry, but the state,” then why not Tarasenke manage with two companies. Under Comrade Stalin, there weren’t such "multi-station workers", just like Yuryevich throwing a spoon, pouring alcohol, it became disgusting.
    6. Golovan Jack 31 January 2020 11: 25 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      plus healthy competition

      Unhealthy. The undercover fight for budget money was always. And she was never a "healthy phenomenon."

      Although, as a slogan for lovers of fun, it will do, of course.
      1. doodlez 31 January 2020 23: 01 New
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        And it was never a “healthy phenomenon.” An example of the success of a monopoly is that you are a liar.
        1. Golovan Jack 31 January 2020 23: 07 New
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          Quote: doodlez
          An example of the success of a monopoly ...

          ... absolutely nothing to do with it. Add courtesy, by the way - it definitely won’t hurt you yes

          Quote: doodlez
          atom is given what are you a liar

          Well, live with it ... "it is given" to him, laughing
    7. Gray brother 31 January 2020 11: 32 New
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      Quote: maxim947
      Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.

      I must say, in fairness, that he did not get loans for unrealized projects, now he has to “optimize and reduce” and ask the state for money to pay off its debts.
    8. astepanov 31 January 2020 11: 36 New
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      But tapericha Serdyukov will bring twice as many gifts to Vasilyeva. And he will order airplanes in France.
      1. Flatter 31 January 2020 15: 49 New
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        Serdyukov is a black ball. And who throws it is known.
  2. pru-pavel 31 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    They are doing everything right. Savings payroll. For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.
    1. bessmertniy 31 January 2020 10: 33 New
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      Well, if he is a good leader, then why not sit on two chairs. what I’m not so smart, and something is a bit narrow in order to warm two chairs. request
      1. pru-pavel 31 January 2020 10: 35 New
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        Duck, I’m not against it. Let it work.
        1. bessmertniy 31 January 2020 10: 37 New
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          And I do not mind that. repeat Then someone else objected.
    2. Aerodrome 31 January 2020 10: 52 New
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      Quote: pru-pavel
      They are doing everything right. Savings payroll. For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.

      not 300? for the "work"?
    3. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 43 New
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      For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.

      The people of humor did not understand. But you are right.
  3. Igor Borisov_2 31 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

    This is the most scary thing ...
    1. Aerodrome 31 January 2020 10: 53 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

      This is the most scary thing ...

      from this - in general: shock.
    2. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 46 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      This is most of all scary.

      And what will happen to the Sukhoi Superjet 100 ???
  4. KBaHT_BpeMeHu 31 January 2020 10: 30 New
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    The head of the MiG corporation and the UAC deputy head of military-technical cooperation, Ilya Tarasenko, will also head the Sukhoi company.

  5. Ros 56 31 January 2020 10: 33 New
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    Well, what nonsense, who needs it? request request request request request recourse
  6. askort154 31 January 2020 10: 35 New
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    The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

    Not a drowning specialist of a wide profile. Head of a furniture company, head of the tax service, Minister of Defense, co-chair of Russian Helicopters,
    the head of "Rostec" - dangles from an ice-hole to an ice-hole, and has not drowned anywhere. no
    1. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 09 New
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      Quote: askort154
      Not a drowning specialist of a wide profile. Head of a furniture company, head of the tax service, Minister of Defense, co-chair of Russian Helicopters,

      Soon he will become the head of the Salvation Army, and maybe the director of the fish farm. Such multi-pitters do not rush.
    2. kjhg 31 January 2020 11: 14 New
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      Quote: askort154
      and never drowned

      You know that r ... o is not drowning.
    3. Vasyan1971 31 January 2020 11: 21 New
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      Quote: askort154
      dangles from an ice-hole to an ice-hole, and has not drowned anywhere.

      Eloquent traces only left ...
    4. Kleber 31 January 2020 14: 14 New
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      Quote: askort154
      The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

      Not a drowning specialist of a wide profile. Head of a furniture company, head of the tax service, Minister of Defense, co-chair of Russian Helicopters,
      the head of "Rostec" - dangles from an ice-hole to an ice-hole, and has not drowned anywhere. no


      Sedyukov's success so far is only on the sexual front. Zubkov’s daughter was dragged to the registry office and his career trampled, but he won’t drown in the hole - it’s not drowning at all.
  7. Thrifty 31 January 2020 10: 39 New
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    That's all! Consider both companies dead! Such optimization, "by shooting", we do not need!
  8. bk316 31 January 2020 10: 43 New
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    An interesting guy goes from MIG to Sukhoi and back.
    But these are generally competitors .... belay
    1. bouncyhunter 31 January 2020 12: 10 New
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      Volodya, hello! hi
      Quote: bk316
      But these are generally competitors ....

      There were competitors - they will become partners. If only out of this "partnership" did not come out like a black widow with her male ...
      1. bk316 31 January 2020 15: 07 New
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        There were competitors - they will become partners.

        Hi Paul!
        You see, the big authorities, which I have seen enough, can never determine in advance what is in my head. Maybe it’s good, or maybe it’s eaten, we'll see and see ......
        Speaking of big bosses. laughing It turned out cool, I can brag about drinking vodka as vice premier. After all, a year ago no one thought that Khusnulin would jump so. So, you sit with him at the table and understand that a person always thinks some of his back thoughts.
  9. Obi-Wan Kenobi 31 January 2020 10: 56 New
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    he was director of the free directorate of Sukhoi

    traveled from MiG Program Coordination Director to First Deputy General Director

    Tarasenko returned to MiG as the CEO of the corporation

    This is what I understand !!! These are the posts !!! This is career growth !!! And the "roof", which FIG when "leaks"!
    The purpose of appointing Tarasenko is to create a UAC military aviation division. The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.
  10. knn54 31 January 2020 11: 02 New
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    In the MIG, they remained paid, but having relatives in the Moscow Region, OAKs in the MASS of other SMOKING OFFICES.
    What progress can there be if the KLA, Roscosmos ... turned into "fines".
  11. Ross xnumx 31 January 2020 11: 02 New
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    ... where I have come from Director of Program Coordination MiG to the first deputy general director ...

    This is the very path that all progressive humanity has striven for. It turns out that something would fly, go or go need a set of directors:
    - director of program development;
    - Director for program counting;
    - Director for the selection of optimal programs and fellow
    - Director for Program Coordination ... wassat
    And I see, for thirty years Russia has been flooded and flooded with “breakthrough programs” and “promising projects” ... As a result, you choose and choose between “promising models”
    The head of the MiG Corporation will head at the same time Sukhoi company

    The Lord did not study well at the school of the Gods: otherwise he would have created a man and a woman in one person ... How many wars and catastrophes did not take place ... belay
    1. bk316 31 January 2020 12: 03 New
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      It turns out that something would fly, go or go need a set of directors:

      In fact, from the side it is completely unclear how directors these directors are. laughing
      Now it’s customary to call the boy in the trading room a sales manager, although what kind of manager is he? What does he manage? Who is led by?
      So a director can be called a person, just to raise his self-esteem, and since a particular director should be one and come up with different "software directors ..."
  12. tihonmarine 31 January 2020 11: 06 New
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    The head of the MiG corporation and the UAC deputy head of military-technical cooperation, Ilya Tarasenko, will also head the Sukhoi company.
    Two owners, always a cow is not milking.
  13. Vasyan1971 31 January 2020 11: 18 New
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    The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

    Unsinkable.
  14. Camrad 31 January 2020 11: 37 New
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    As for me, the main thing is that after each Serdyukov his shoigu arrives in time ...
    1. Pavel57 31 January 2020 11: 55 New
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      Serdyukov and Shoigu walk only in pairs.
    2. vadsonen 31 January 2020 13: 19 New
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      Best of all "family" - on the bunk.
  15. Souchastnik 31 January 2020 11: 44 New
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    Let the patriots cheer them to death, but I have a steady feeling that they are driving Russian aviation into a coffin. If you do not take military aircraft into account, the civilian has recently issued only a superjet and MS-21. Yes, and those "not really" Russian. OCD on the Su-57 began as early as the Decree of the Light of the USSR Ministers. Money should be invested in the development of aviation and not beds moved by Feng Shui.
    1. Pavel57 31 January 2020 11: 56 New
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      IL-476, IL-112, IL-114, MS-21, localized Superjet - is this all Feng Shui?
      1. vadsonen 31 January 2020 13: 27 New
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        Those. to master the assembly of Soviet (IL-76, IL-114) - is this an achievement?
        MS-21 - where is it? He is in the same place as the Su-57, Armata and other ceremonial models.
        A localized (so much that even Iran is not allowed to sell) superjet? Well, Duc in Russia using the screwdriver assembly method and BMWs are assembled, and Toyota - we can say, they wiped the Germans and Japanese nose.

        The task of the "Putiners" is not to make planes / cars / electronics, but to master the budget. Therefore, Chubais is responsible for nanotechnology, and Serdyukov is responsible for aircraft manufacturing.
        1. Pavel57 31 January 2020 18: 25 New
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          Do you pay money for our comments?)))) All that you write is deceit and lies.
          1. Staroshil 31 January 2020 18: 29 New
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            Quote: Pavel57
            Do you get paid for our comments?))))

            They are clearly paying, now a support group from Israel will catch up .. (they are already generals there in the majority) ..
            their F-35 will now begin to advertise .. negative
  16. prior 31 January 2020 11: 53 New
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    Serdyukov is a worthy candidate for the presidency of Russia in order to ruin Russia completely.
    The best of the worst is not to be found.
    1. New Year day 31 January 2020 12: 03 New
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      Quote: prior
      Serdyukov is a worthy candidate for the presidency of Russia in order to ruin Russia completely.
      The best of the worst is not to be found.

      why us .. so ..?
  17. Radikal 31 January 2020 12: 08 New
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    Quote: maxim947
    Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.
    It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
    Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

    Say - when, or guess yourself? lol
  18. Galleon 31 January 2020 12: 21 New
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    Everyone is driving this. Strongly and in all sectors. In addition to the Russian Guard ...
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    Has the Su-57 dropped back?
  20. Goldmitro 31 January 2020 13: 18 New
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    The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

    Of the best
    combiner - optimizer
    it's hard to imagine - he has such a an experience...... How much more do you need to do with this figure, to be kicked out, finally, from managerial posts! Do you mind our aviation?
  21. Radikal 31 January 2020 14: 12 New
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    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: maxim947
    Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.
    It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
    Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

    Say - when, or guess yourself? lol

    Judging by the cons - guessed it! wassat
  22. U-58 31 January 2020 15: 07 New
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    In the end, whose Cossack?
    Which company is closer to him?
    The one that is "stepless" will drown
  23. Tavrik 31 January 2020 16: 30 New
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    What is the difference - one company or two? Nothing will work out anyway.
    Arguments:
    1. Two firms - “smearing” with an even layer of financing, when both have little money and not enough to solve problems. At the output we get conditionally two or more "raw" products that do not interact with each other. Plus a squabble between firms with bribing officials and luring specialists. Plus two top management staffs.
    2. One company is a monopoly with the promotion of not the best solutions, but those that are less costly. There is a lot of money, there is a temptation to expand the "feed base" with a thin layer of spreading agents in all different directions under the slogan: "We are monopolists! We are immensely steep!" Top management is one, but in size as two.
    1. Pavel57 31 January 2020 16: 48 New
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      There were two firms, and Mikoyan’s leadership did nothing to advance the MiG-29 to India when it was possible.
      There were two firms and there was a monopoly of Poghosyan.
      There have been many things over the past 30 years.
  24. midshipman 31 January 2020 16: 51 New
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    In his youth, starting in 1964 he worked with these design bureaus. Personally met with A.I. Mikoyan and P.O. Dry. Created for their aircraft SViVT, which is still produced and operated on all aircraft. The Russian Defense Ministry was trying to merge these design bureaus in the early 90s. But then they managed to postpone this process. And now they have instructed ........... I have no words.
  25. kit88 31 January 2020 18: 04 New
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    Touching all these storms and over-pipe on the upper management floors. Holdings, corporations are being created, they are connecting, disconnecting, directors are efficiently running back and forth from post to post.
    Do not touch the designers and engineers behind the shuttles, dear directors. All the same, there is no benefit from you and your body movements, so at least do not harm the cause if it does not complicate you.
  26. svp67 31 January 2020 19: 09 New
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    The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi
    "The king is dead, long live the King !!!" So I understand that now the whole "MiG family" will go, for me, the main thing is that the Su-57 is brought to a combat state and put on the wing and stream ...
  27. Victor March 47 31 January 2020 19: 18 New
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    Quote: maxim947
    Serdyukov cannot do without “optimizations” and reductions.
    It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
    Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

    Is this not proof that the state is NEVER interested in creating competition within itself. Imaginary competition of several design bureaus in the USSR, in Russia - fraud. When they are divorced in types, only bombers, others only light fighters, third only seaplanes ..... Can there be competition, for example, in the Russian Railways system? In oil production? In the gas industry? In the housing system?
  28. Victor March 47 31 January 2020 19: 24 New
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    Quote: kit88
    Touching all these storms and over-pipe on the upper management floors. Holdings, corporations are being created, they are connecting, disconnecting, directors are efficiently running back and forth from post to post.
    Do not touch the designers and engineers behind the shuttles, dear directors. All the same, there is no benefit from you and your body movements, so at least do not harm the cause if it does not complicate you.

    In the name of what is all this shaking? In the name of redistribution of property. Were in one clan, it will be in another. If it were all in private hands, there would be some benefit. But the official is not interested in the results of his sitting out of his pants. The main thing for him is to be useful to his superiors. And without harm to the case, this does not happen.
    1. Pavel57 1 February 2020 14: 41 New
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      In any state, an official is more interested in his well-being than in anything else. Yes, often not only an official.
  29. Victor March 47 1 February 2020 15: 07 New
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    Quote: Pavel57
    In any state, an official is more interested in his well-being than in anything else. Yes, often not only an official.

    Anyone wants that. But only the official has the opportunity to do it at someone else's expense.
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    it was an eternal confrontation, but everyone wants to take the best, and then get candy for the future.
    Conclusion - they have matured, you just need to combine 3 schools of the aircraft industry, why not combine SU, MIG, TU for the Air Force
    I understand them.
    ps can and 4th IL
  31. Victor March 47 2 February 2020 14: 07 New
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    Quote: lvov_aleksey
    it was an eternal confrontation, but everyone wants to take the best, and then get candy for the future.
    Conclusion - they have matured, you just need to combine 3 schools of the aircraft industry, why not combine SU, MIG, TU for the Air Force
    I understand them.
    ps can and 4th IL

    With such a union, the end begins.
    Collective farms were united in the USSR. Lazy people and drunks hung on the neck of hard workers. And they did not work, and these, too, stopped. What for? Plow for two, and get half?
  32. vfvlasov 8 February 2020 19: 48 New
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    Ozar was a poor leader, appointee, career layman. This has long been seen. But is Tarasenko better? The same eggs, only in profile. Where are his super achievements? Name at least one. They are not there either. Su57 is an upgraded version of the fourth-generation Su-27 aircraft. This is not a sixth generation airplane. This looks more like a scam than a new model. And further. When Serdyukov is the main participant in such "restructuring of strategic companies", it will be a disaster for the state. Under Putin’s nose, rotten, nasty things are happening, but he’s again not like that. MIG planes are better than SU planes. Some enemies of the state are destroying the production of the best combat aircraft in the world. What's happening? Mishustin, will you deal with the enemies of the state?