The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

The head of the MiG corporation and the UAC deputy head for military-technical cooperation, Ilya Tarasenko, will also head the Sukhoi company. This was reported by Vedomosti with reference to two top managers of defense enterprises and a source close to the government apparatus.

The de facto issue with the appointment has been resolved - Tarasenko’s candidacy has been agreed by the parties concerned, de jure the official appointment will be held shortly

- writes the edition.

Interfax confirms this information, citing its sources. It is reported that the purpose of appointing Tarasenko is to create a military division aviation Jab. The question of combining Sukhoi and MiG is being dealt with by the head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov.

As previously reported, a meeting of the Sukhoi board of directors was scheduled for Thursday, at which it was planned to consider the issue of the resignation of CEO Igor Ozar and choose a new leader, but the meeting was adjourned until next week.

Vedomosti writes that Tarasenko is well acquainted with the Sukhoi company, since in 2005-2009 he was the director of the Sukhoi free directorate, and in 2014-2016 he headed the Sukhoi Civil Aircraft. In 2009-2014, he worked at MiG Corporation, where he traveled from the Director of Program Coordination for MiG to the First Deputy General Director. In 2016, Tarasenko returned to MiG as the CEO of the corporation.

Comments

[maxim947]

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.
It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

[Svarog]

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment .. But I agree with Maxim that different schools with their own approaches and traditions and what kind of competition should be left ..

[Lexus]

Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment ..

Serdyukov is just a "family" appointee. The next "successes" of the "tandem" and their accomplices. They have not yet finished ruining the space industry and helicopter construction, they decided to arrange a pogrom in aviation. We have already decided that the "dried" MiG will be enough for Russia. Judging by the convulsions, the pompous funeral of the industry as a whole is not far off.

[Svarog]

Quote: lexus

Serdyukov is just a "family" appointee

Already about Serdyukov, even writing is disgusting. And not only on him .. we have where you do not spit, everywhere "professionals" in mastering ... Yesterday I watched Navalny's video, about the new premiere .. In general, everything is hopeless ..

[Lexus]

Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

Here, some of them still harbor iridescent illusions that Roskomnadzor has absolutely nothing to do with it, and all the "nits" are exclusively nuggets.

[Svarog]

Quote: lexus

Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

Here, some of them still harbor iridescent illusions that Roskomnadzor has absolutely nothing to do with it, and all the "nits" are exclusively nuggets.

I am surprised by people who still have rainbow illusions .. I understand that there are those who work out the fee .. but how can one not see the obvious? The same Navalny because everything is laid out on the shelves, clearly argued .. and most importantly, no one argues with him ..

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svarog

Bulk because everything is laid out on the shelves, clearly argued ..

Quote: Svarog

and most importantly no one argues with him ..

Well, almost no one argues with you either. Did not notice?

[maxim947]

to see the obvious and to see what you want to see are completely different things.

[bk316]

Well, almost no one argues with you either. Did not notice? wink

Bravo!

[Yarr_Arr]

Without touching on everything else ... "The same Navalny, after all, puts everything on the shelves, clearly reasoned ..." .... Navalny absolutely incompetently (unproven) throws feces on the fan. His reasoning is at the level of "Do you see a gopher? And he is there! Because it cannot be otherwise." And Excel tables on the screen. Like "the whole country is hiding Mishustin".

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

The same Navalny, after all, puts everything on the shelves,

and after that his shelves are reasonably smashed to smithereens !!!

[lucul]

Already about Serdyukov, even writing disgusting

Why ? After all, your owner "closed", at one time))))
Let me remind you - it was Serdyukov - who opened a case against Khodorkovsky and put him in the end. No one had more eggs ....

[Yura]

Quote: Svarog

Yesterday Navalny’s video looked

Bulk?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

Yesterday Navalny’s video looked about the new premiere ..

Interesting, you donate to him ???

[Edik]

Quote: Svarog

Serdyukov .. you can leave without comment.

Yes! Just write that after Serdyukov the Russian army entrenched in the second step in the list of the most combat-ready armies in the world.
And no more comments!
I guess he still turned out to be more understanding than you, in this matter

[alexmach]

What kind of competition is it? The competition in the 60s and 70s was in a country that built thousands of aircraft. Now, on the one hand, they are working in different segments, on the other, collaborating on the most promising topics.

[Invoce]

Quote: maxim947

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.
It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

This character decided to remove ALL Moscow Management companies of aviation corporations from Moscow (many of them historically have their own territory, which was allocated at the time of their creation by I.V. Stalin), motivating that there are too many Management companies (OKB, etc.) in Moscow. ... It seems that the territory is the main reason for making a decision. There are many shopping centers, but there are no families owned by those involved in the decision to reduce everything. Academies and staffs have already been reduced, hiccups so far ... Military schools have been reduced by ...%, left alone for the military branch ... Now the blow is delivered to aircraft builders of military equipment, civil aircraft construction was destroyed in the 90s, it is trying recover at the Irkutsk AZ (MS-21) ... Here it is the policy of the EP, Medvedevskaya personnel and economic policy .....

[CT-55_11-9009]

Quote: Invoce

This character decided to remove ALL Moscow Management companies of aviation corporations from Moscow (many of them historically have their own territory, which was allocated at the time of their creation by I.V. Stalin), motivating that there are too many Management companies (OKB, etc.) in Moscow. ...

For the territory of "Sukhoi" I will not say, but OKB "MiG" is located in the same high-rise building. You can admire - Voikovskaya metro station, and there you can walk about two hundred meters. By the way, the Yakovlev Design Bureau, as far as I know, huddles on the three or four uppermost floors of the same building.

Quote: Invoce

Now a blow is being inflicted on aircraft builders of military equipment, civil aircraft construction was destroyed in the 90s, it is trying to recover a little bit at the Irkutsk AZ (MS-21) ...

I will say this: MiG (namely KB) is a sinecure, ideal for students in terms of gaining seniority, because in the 2013-16th there was almost no work there, at least in those departments where my classmates worked. In the 14th they tightened the screws and stopped taking students (which is a pity, I didn’t have time to go there ...). If the pace of work is the same on Sukhoi, then such optimization is understandable.


But in general, yes, such "unions" themselves look dumb, and are carried out at the departure ... is. And the fact that Serdyukov is doing this is even more frightening.

[Engineer]

I will say this: MiG (namely KB) is a sinecure, ideal for students in terms of gaining seniority, because in 2013-16 there was almost no work there

Sinecure- high paying A post that does not require any effort.
In the 13th year, university graduates at the MiG Design Bureau received 20-25 thousand. First-hand information. Salaries, you know, are very low. People who visited the building and got acquainted with the material and production base (my leaders at that time) summarized that the MiG is dead.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: maxim947

Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition.

In order to disperse the latest designers under the guise of unification, merger, cost savings ....
That's just the question - and who benefits from this ?! Do you need an answer or what?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Starover_Z

In order to disperse the latest designers under the guise of unification, merger, cost savings ....
That's just the question - and who benefits from this ?! Do you need an answer or what?

The answer is not needed, and it is clear that Serdyukov and Tarasenko on two chairs will create something similar to the "Farman" bookcase of the WWI era. They have a lot of experience with whatnots and stools.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: maxim947

Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

For such, you need to "optimize"! Guardsmen from the FSB!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

I, choked on my ears, threw a spoon. not something ... nasty and not tasty ..

[Chaldon48]

Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Chaldon48

Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?

The words "holding" and "corporation" are probably not familiar to you.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Chaldon48

Tarasenko is apparently a genius, since he can manage two companies at once?

Well, if earlier they said that “the cook and the laundress can manage, not only the kitchen and the laundry, but the state,” then why shouldn't Tarasenka manage with two companies. Under Comrade Stalin, there were no such "mnogostanochnik", too, like Yuryevich, I will throw a spoon, pour alcohol, it became disgusting.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: maxim947

plus healthy competition

Unhealthy. The undercover fight for budget money was always... And she was never "healthy".

Although, as a slogan for lovers of fun, it will do, of course.

[doodlez]

And it has never been a “healthy phenomenon.” An example of the success of a monopoly is that you are a liar

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: doodlez

An example of the success of a monopoly ...

... absolutely nothing to do with it. Add courtesy, by the way - it definitely won’t hurt you

Quote: doodlez

atom is given what are you a liar

Well, and live with it ... it is "rented" to him, panima

[Gray brother]

Quote: maxim947

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.

It must be said, in all fairness, that it was not he who scored loans for unrealized projects, now he has to "optimize and reduce" and ask the state for money in order to pay off the debts.

[astepanov]

But tapericha Serdyukov will bring twice as many gifts to Vasilyeva. And he will order airplanes in France.

[Flatter]

Serdyukov is a black ball. And who throws it is known.

[pru-pavel]

They are doing everything right. Savings payroll. For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.

[bessmertniy]

Well, if he is a good leader, then why not sit on two chairs. I’m not so smart, and something is a bit narrow in order to warm two chairs.

[pru-pavel]

Duck, I’m not against it. Let it work.

[bessmertniy]

And I do not mind that. Then someone else objected.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: pru-pavel

They are doing everything right. Savings payroll. For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.

and not 300? for "work"?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: pru-pavel

For part-time 30% of the salary will pay him.

The people of humor did not understand. But you are right.

[Igor Borisov_2]

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov deals with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG

This is the most scary thing ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov deals with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG

This is the most scary thing ...

from this - in general: shock.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

This is most of all scary.

What will happen to the "Sukhoi Superjet 100" ???

[KBaHT_BpeMeHu]

Ilya Tarasenko, the head of the MiG corporation and the deputy head of the UAC for military-technical cooperation, will also head the Sukhoi company.

[Ros 56]

Well, what nonsense, who needs it?

[askort154]

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

Non-submerged generalist. Head of a furniture company, head of tax service, minister of defense, co-chairman of Russian Helicopters,
the head of "Rostec" - dangles from one hole in another, and never drowned.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

Non-submerged generalist. Head of a furniture company, head of tax service, minister of defense, co-chairman of Russian Helicopters,

Soon he will become the head of the Salvation Army, and maybe the director of the fishery. Such mnogostanochniki do not rush.

[kjhg]

Quote: askort154

and never drowned

You know that r ... o is not drowning.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: askort154

dangles from an ice-hole to an ice-hole, and has not drowned anywhere.

Eloquent traces only left ...

[Kleber]

Quote: askort154

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

Non-submerged generalist. Head of a furniture company, head of tax service, minister of defense, co-chairman of Russian Helicopters,
the head of "Rostec" - dangles from one hole in another, and never drowned.

Sedyukov's success so far is only on the sexual front. Zubkov’s daughter was dragged to the registry office and his career trampled, but he won’t drown in the hole - it’s not drowning at all.

[Thrifty]

That's all! Consider both companies dead! We do not need such optimization by the "shooting method"!

[bk316]

An interesting guy goes from MIG to Sukhoi and back.
But these are generally competitors ....

[bouncyhunter]

Volodya, hello!

Quote: bk316

But these are generally competitors ....

There were competitors - there will be partners. If only this "partnership" did not come out like a black widow with her male ...

[bk316]

There were competitors - they will become partners.

Hi Paul!
You see, the big authorities, which I have seen enough, can never determine in advance what is in my head. Maybe it’s good, or maybe it’s eaten, we'll see and see ......
Speaking of big bosses. It turned out cool, I can brag about drinking vodka as vice premier. After all, a year ago no one thought that Khusnulin would jump so. So, you sit with him at the table and understand that a person always thinks some of his back thoughts.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

he was the director of the free directorate "Sukhoi"

made his way from the director for the coordination of the MiG programs to the first deputy general director

Tarasenko returned to MiG as the CEO of the corporation

That's what I understand !!! These are the posts !!! This is career growth !!! And the "roof", which figs when "leaks"!

the purpose of Tarasenko's appointment is to create a division of military aviation of the UAC. The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

[knn54]

In the MIG, they remained paid, but having relatives in the Moscow Region, OAKs in the MASS of other SMOKING OFFICES.
What progress can be made if the UAC, Roscosmos ... have been turned into "penal battalions."

[Ross xnumx]

... where I have come from Director of Program Coordination "MiG" to the first deputy general director ...

This is the very path that all progressive humanity has striven for. It turns out that something would fly, go or go need a set of directors:
- director of program development;
- Director for program counting;
- Director for the selection of optimal programs and
- Director for Program Coordination ...
And I see, for thirty years Russia has been flooded and flooded with “breakthrough programs” and “promising projects” ... As a result, you choose and choose between “promising models”

The head of the MiG Corporation will head at the same time Sukhoi company

The Lord did not study well at the school of the Gods: otherwise he would have created a man and a woman in one person ... How many wars and catastrophes did not take place ...

[bk316]

It turns out that something would fly, go or go need a set of directors:

In fact, from the side it is completely unclear how directors these directors are.
Now it’s customary to call the boy in the trading room a sales manager, although what kind of manager is he? What does he manage? Who is led by?
So a person can be called a director, just to raise his self-esteem, and since a specific director must be one and come up with different "software directors ..."

[tihonmarine]

Ilya Tarasenko, the head of the MiG corporation and the deputy head of the UAC for military-technical cooperation, will also head the Sukhoi company.

Two owners, always a cow is not milking.

[Vasyan1971]

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

Unsinkable.

[Camrad]

As for me, the main thing is that after each Serdyukov his shoigu arrives in time ...

[Pavel57]

Serdyukov and Shoigu walk only in pairs.

[vadsonen]

Best of all "family" ones - on bunks.

[Souchastnik]

Let hurray the patriots minus to death, but I have a steady feeling that the Russian aviation is being driven into a coffin. If you do not take into account the military aviation, then the civilian has recently issued only a superjet and MS-21. And those "not quite" Russian ones. ROC on the Su-57 began as early as by the Decree of the Light of the USSR ministers. Money should be invested in the development of aviation and not moving beds in Feng Shui.

[Pavel57]

IL-476, IL-112, IL-114, MS-21, localized Superjet - is this all Feng Shui?

[vadsonen]

Those. to master the assembly of Soviet (IL-76, IL-114) - is this an achievement?
MS-21 - where is it? He is in the same place as the Su-57, Armata and other ceremonial models.
A localized (so much that even Iran is not allowed to sell) superjet? Well, Duc in Russia using the screwdriver assembly method and BMWs are assembled, and Toyota - we can say, they wiped the Germans and Japanese nose.

The task of the "putints" is not to make planes / cars / electronics, but to master the budget. Therefore, Chubais is responsible for nanotechnology, and Serdyukov is responsible for aircraft construction.

[Pavel57]

Do you pay money for our comments?)))) All that you write is deceit and lies.

[Staroshil]

Quote: Pavel57

Do you get paid for our comments?))))

They are clearly paying, now a support group from Israel will catch up .. (they are already generals there in the majority) ..
their F-35 will now begin to advertise ..

[prior]

Serdyukov is a worthy candidate for the presidency of Russia in order to ruin Russia completely.
The best of the worst is not to be found.

[New Year day]

Quote: prior

Serdyukov is a worthy candidate for the presidency of Russia in order to ruin Russia completely.
The best of the worst is not to be found.

why us .. so ..?

[Radical]

Quote: maxim947

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.
It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

Say - when, or guess yourself?

[Galleon]

Everyone is driving this. Strongly and in all sectors. In addition to the Russian Guard ...

[spectr]

Has the Su-57 dropped back?

[Goldmitro]

The head of the Rostec aviation cluster Anatoly Serdyukov is dealing with the issue of combining Sukhoi and MiG.

Of the best

combiner - optimizer

it's hard to imagine - he has such a an experience...... How much more do you need to do with this figure, to be kicked out, finally, from managerial posts! Do you mind our aviation?

[Radical]

Quote: Radikal

Quote: maxim947

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.
It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

Say - when, or guess yourself?

Judging by the cons - guessed it!

[U-58]

In the end, whose Cossack?
Which company is closer to him?
The one that is "non-native" and will drown

[Tavrik]

What is the difference - one company or two? Nothing will work out anyway.
Arguments:
1. Two firms - "smeared" with an even layer of financing, when both have little money and not enough to solve problems. At the output, we get conditionally two or more "raw" products that do not interact with each other. Plus squabble between firms with bribing officials and enticing specialists. Plus two top management staffs.
2. One firm - a monopoly with the promotion of not the best solutions, but those that are less expensive. There is a lot of money, there is a temptation to expand the "food base" by spreading a thin layer of funds in all different directions under the slogan: "We are monopolists! We are immensely cool!" There is only one top management, but the size of two.

[Pavel57]

There were two firms, and Mikoyan’s leadership did nothing to advance the MiG-29 to India when it was possible.
There were two firms and there was a monopoly of Poghosyan.
There have been many things over the past 30 years.

[midshipman]

In his youth, starting in 1964 he worked with these design bureaus. Personally met with A.I. Mikoyan and P.O. Dry. Created for their aircraft SViVT, which is still produced and operated on all aircraft. The Russian Defense Ministry was trying to merge these design bureaus in the early 90s. But then they managed to postpone this process. And now they have instructed ........... I have no words.

[kit88]

Touching all these storms and over-pipe on the upper management floors. Holdings, corporations are being created, they are connecting, disconnecting, directors are efficiently running back and forth from post to post.
Do not touch the designers and engineers behind the shuttles, dear directors. All the same, there is no benefit from you and your body movements, so at least do not harm the cause if it does not complicate you.

[svp67]

The head of the MiG Corporation will head part-time Sukhoi

"The King is dead, long live the King !!!" So I understand that now a whole "family of MiGs" will go, for me the main thing is that the Su-57 be brought to a combat state and put on the wing and stream ...

[Victor March 47]

Quote: maxim947

Serdyukov cannot live without "optimizations" and reductions.
It still comes around. What kind of nature is this ...
Why combine them, two different schools with their own approaches and traditions, plus healthy competition. Damn, when they are already being hired by everyone, farting, Chubais, the management of Rosvertol, etc. etc. a bunch of dumb, incompetent parasites.

Is this not proof that the state is NEVER interested in creating competition within itself. Imaginary competition of several design bureaus in the USSR, in Russia - fraud. When they are divorced in types, only bombers, others only light fighters, third only seaplanes ..... Can there be competition, for example, in the Russian Railways system? In oil production? In the gas industry? In the housing system?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: kit88

Touching all these storms and over-pipe on the upper management floors. Holdings, corporations are being created, they are connecting, disconnecting, directors are efficiently running back and forth from post to post.
Do not touch the designers and engineers behind the shuttles, dear directors. All the same, there is no benefit from you and your body movements, so at least do not harm the cause if it does not complicate you.

In the name of what is all this shaking? In the name of redistribution of property. Were in one clan, it will be in another. If it were all in private hands, there would be some benefit. But the official is not interested in the results of his sitting out of his pants. The main thing for him is to be useful to his superiors. And without harm to the case, this does not happen.

[Pavel57]

In any state, an official is more interested in his well-being than in anything else. Yes, often not only an official.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Pavel57

In any state, an official is more interested in his well-being than in anything else. Yes, often not only an official.

Anyone wants that. But only the official has the opportunity to do it at someone else's expense.

[lvov_aleksey]

it was an eternal confrontation, but everyone wants to take the best, and then get candy for the future.
Conclusion - they have matured, you just need to combine 3 schools of the aircraft industry, why not combine SU, MIG, TU for the Air Force
I understand them.
ps can and 4th IL

[Victor March 47]

Quote: lvov_aleksey

it was an eternal confrontation, but everyone wants to take the best, and then get candy for the future.
Conclusion - they have matured, you just need to combine 3 schools of the aircraft industry, why not combine SU, MIG, TU for the Air Force
I understand them.
ps can and 4th IL

With such a union, the end begins.
Collective farms were united in the USSR. Lazy people and drunks hung on the neck of hard workers. And they did not work, and these, too, stopped. What for? Plow for two, and get half?

[vfvlasov]

Ozar was a bad leader, an appointee, a careerist layman. This has long been seen. And what is better for Tarasenko? The same eggs, only in profile. Where are his super achievements? Name one. They are not there either. Su57 is an upgraded version of the fourth generation Su-27 aircraft. This is not a sixth generation aircraft. It looks more like a scam than a new model. And further. When Serdyukov is the main participant in such "restructuring of strategic companies," it will be a disaster for the state. Rotten, disgusting things are going on under Putin's nose, and again he doesn't know. MIG aircraft are better than SU aircraft. Some enemies of the state are destroying the production of the best combat aircraft in the world. What's happening? Mishustin, do you have something to do with the enemies of the state.