Erdogan on the offensive: signs of a revival of the Ottoman Empire

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Erdogan on the offensive: signs of a revival of the Ottoman Empire

Turkey created its buffer zone in Syria, forms an army of pro-Turkish militants, sent troops to Libya. Erdogan argues with Trump, is rude to Germany and France, accuses Israel of terrorism and compares it with the Third Reich. Erdogan sets the conditions for Russia. In fact, we see the revival of the Ottoman Empire, the creation of the "red caliphate" of the new Sultan Erdogan.

Ottoman Revival


After the destruction of the Soviet Union, Turkey gradually began to build a new military-political and economic policy in the regions that were formerly part of the fallen Ottoman Empire. In the Balkans, the Middle East and the Caucasus. This process was especially noticeable under Recep Erdogan (the head of the Turkish government since 2003 and the president of the state since 2014).



Turkey intervened in the war in Iraq and Syria, which was connected both with the Kurdish issue threatening the security of the Republic of Turkey and with economic interests. In addition, Ankara began to actively intervene in the affairs of Iraq and Syria, since as they were destroyed and their military-economic power grew, they began to believe that these countries were included in its sphere of influence as former parts of the Ottoman Empire. The Turks themselves and with the help of pro-Turkish gangs occupied a part of Syria, creating their own army and a new Syria there, fully oriented to Ankara. Now Ankara is transferring its militants, whom it supports with regular forces, to Libya. There Erdogan, together with Qatar, relies on the Government of National Accord, led by Saraj in Tripoli.

In Turkey itself, under Erdogan’s rule, a course towards the Islamization of society is clearly visible. At universities, former centers of democracy and freedom, mosques are being built. The ban on wearing the hijab in public places has been lifted. The conservative “village” is increasingly putting pressure on large cities where pro-Western secular ethics have dominated for a long time. The number of schools for imams is growing. Formally, Turkey is still a secular state, but in general, the main course on the Islamization of society and the country is visible to the naked eye.

Erdogan himself does not act as a democratically elected president, but as a caliph and sultan - the head of the Muslim and Turkic world. New Turkey - the "red caliphate", is positioned as the center of the Islamic and Turkic world, and Erdogan - as the head of all Muslims. Ankara claims to be the leader of the "Turkic European Union" (Turan), trying to unite the Turkic states around itself - Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan. Turkey has its own interests in Crimea, Tatarstan and Bashkiria. In 2009, the Turkic Council was established with headquarters in Istanbul.

Great Power Ambitions


Having decided that Russia is creeping into its sphere of influence, Ankara allowed itself to go into a frank conflict by shooting down a Russian military plane. Erdogan allows himself injections in the direction of the United States. For example, on the issue of US policy in the Middle East or the supply of F-35 fighters. The Turkish president calls Israel a terrorist state and even compares it with Nazi Germany, and it gets away with it. The Red Sultan threatens the European Union by blackmailing European capitals with hordes of refugees whom they are threatening to release from the camps and let them into “fertile” Europe. Erdogan criticizes Merkel and is rude to Macron (on the issue of Cyprus and Libya).

Ankara sent a landing fleet to the shores of Libya, and Paris, having accused Turkey of increasing regional tension, is strengthening its military alliance with Athens and is planning to send ships to the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea to support Greece in a dispute with Turkey. The tension between Turkey and Greece, Cyprus has increased significantly. Relations between Turkey and Greece are traditionally hostile, despite the fact that both countries are members of NATO. In 1974, Turkish troops landed in Cyprus, captured part of the island and created the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, recognized only by Ankara. A new round of conflict between Ankara and Athens is caused by a dispute over the ownership of energy resources in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Turkey's participation in the gas war


Ankara quite successfully thwarted Moscow's plans in Syria. The “Turkish stream” was reduced from 4 to 2 threads, while Erdogan received a trump card in the case of blackmailing Moscow. Ankara also significantly cut purchases of Russian gas, but increased purchases from other sources. In 2019, Ankara opened the Trans-Anatolian Gas Pipeline (TANAP) - a gas pipeline from Azerbaijan through Georgia and Turkey to the Greek border. Further, the Turks plan to commission the Trans-Caspian gas pipeline, which will connect Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, it is possible that Kazakhstan. That is, Turkey is turning into a major gas hub.

Now Ankara breaks into the war in Libya, which also has energy prerequisites. Turkey, in alliance with Qatar, through the Sarajah government in Tripoli, seeks to gain control of the Libyan maritime zone in order to threaten a promising gas pipeline to Europe from large fields in the Eastern Mediterranean. The zones are interconnected, which allows Ankara to dictate the conditions for the construction of the pipe. Turkey and Qatar are opposed by another “gas” coalition - Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, Sudan and Russia, which are fighting at the hands of the army of Marshal Haftar. The interests of France, the Republic of Cyprus and Greece adjoin them. That is, Libya has become a battlefield for serious players.
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          1. +11
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              1. 0
                31 January 2020 19: 09
                Quote: oracul
                There are many examples of this, but it’s enough to recall Germany, Poland and Lithuania with their historical invasions of Russia, dreaming of their imaginary greatness of Romania at the expense of Moldova and Finland at the expense of Russia, Ukraine, living in dreams of Kievan Rus, Iran, eager to head the Shiite belt and others .


                Among other things, Israel is dreaming of chopping off the EAO.
                1. +3
                  1 February 2020 22: 07
                  Quote: Far In
                  Travel companion and trading partner, you say? As for me, such fellow travelers should be thrown out of the car at full speed

                  Turkey is our neighbor, whether we want it or not.
                  Erdogan is a strong ruler with great ambitions.
                  For Turkey, this is more a plus than a minus.
                  For neighbors - that's how they can. You can quarrel. And you can turn it to your advantage. Just take into account the nature of the neighbor so that they do not sit on the neck. Nip is so tough. But also leave him room for maneuver to get out of the conflict without losing face.

                  But so it is necessary to behave with ALMOST any other neighbors. With the exception of those whose policies are based solely on Russophobia - for the Baltic States, Poland and Kiev, there is no need to leave opportunities to save face (it still will not help)
            2. -1
              31 January 2020 10: 17
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        2. 0
          31 January 2020 06: 32
          Quote: Dalny V
          ... In 1938, in Munich, Deladier and Chamberlain also "made politics", believe me.

          These workers then elegantly done to themselves at headquarters ..... Now we wouldn’t have done another war.
          hi
          1. +6
            31 January 2020 06: 39
            What they "did" is indisputable ... But whatever one may say, it was also politics. Big. Very big. It is impossible to imagine more, given the consequences.
            1. 0
              31 January 2020 06: 55
              Quote: Dalny V
              there was also politics. Big one.

              Sure. The main thing is that we shouldn't be fooled into the war, why shouldn't that, they themselves should at least eat each other there, this is not our quarrel. hi
        3. +4
          31 January 2020 18: 12
          Quote: Dalny V
          In 1938

          In July 1938, Turkey, in response to a proposal by Germany to join the Axis countries
          stated that Turkey did not intend to revive the Ottoman Empire.
          2020 year. Erdogan begins to slowly realize his dreams of the revival of the empire.
      2. +2
        1 February 2020 16: 15
        Travel companion, speak?
        A good word, but it cannot be applied to this situation.
        Correctly, the article focuses on questions.
        1. Gas pipeline.
        2. Syria.
        3.Livia.

        Still forgotten the construction of Akku, transmission C400.
        Turkey is a more flexible and more fit player, in the place where events unfold.
        Tricks of the Turks (in Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, etc.) are not forgotten.
        Even the translation of Kazakhstan from Cyrillic to Latin is the "concern" of the Turks.

        On the other hand, all the "merits" of the Turks are based on the mistakes of the Kremlin and the gallery owner.
        If we do not mind, then who will object?
    2. 0
      31 January 2020 06: 15
      Guessing this question only on a camomile!
    3. +3
      31 January 2020 08: 01
      Erdogan is only a friend to himself. Nobody else
    4. -1
      31 January 2020 08: 49
      Everything is so, only Erdogan himself does not know the schedule. "When he gets the harness under his mantle ...."
      1. 0
        31 January 2020 12: 46
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Everything is so, only Erdogan himself does not know the schedule. "When he gets the harness under his mantle ...."

        hi
        Erdogan is a master of political slalom. A week ago he was "dark, dark" with Putin, and the day before yesterday - an ultimatum to the same Putin. Last week he shook Trump's hand for 3 minutes, and today he shakes his finger at him for the "deal of the century" in Israel. From such a nice partner, you need to fenced off with red flags and no hu-hu-hu, only pragmatism based on one's own benefit.
    5. +6
      31 January 2020 09: 22
      we are friends, then we hate Erdogan's tomatoes.


      By the way, our sovereign food safety agency (which I crookedly translated) has done research and found in Turkish tomatoes an absolute (76%) use of pesticides prohibited in the EU. Think what you eat ...
      1. +1
        31 January 2020 09: 57
        Turkish tomatoes do not reach us, and those that are in the trade are more expensive than fish and chicken. request So well these are these tomatoes! stop
      2. +5
        31 January 2020 11: 27
        Keyser Soze (Eugene) : in Turkish tomatoes, the total (76%) use of banned pesticides in the EU. Think what you eat ..
        .
        Greetings, Eugene hi
        1. +1
          31 January 2020 12: 43
          Greetings, Eugene


          Hi Dmitry! I am glad to see ... :))

          Good joke, but here is the link - https://www.bgonair.bg/a/2-bulgaria/185507-upotrebata-na-pestitsidi-v-turtsiya-narasnala-7-pati-za-poslednite-40-g

          This is a study by the Bulgarian Food Safety Agency, as well as Greenpies. By the way, what I like about the EU is the rules and laws. If not for them, our great and mighty and greedy landowners would fill the land and nature with pesticides worse than Turkish ones. laughing

          But I can give you a hint - how I choose tomatoes. The first - it is necessary that they do not look very beautiful (it removes Dutch and Spanish plastic products from the selection right away) and the second - I smell the tomatoes - if I smell of tomatoes, I buy them. If you don’t smell anything, I don’t take it. drinks

          And when I buy tomato puree or salsa, I buy my native or Italian. Here the Italians do not compromise with tomatoes, it’s sacred! :)
          1. +3
            31 January 2020 13: 00
            Eugene drinks
            We don’t buy tomatoes. I have a private house with 11.5 acres of land. We grow our own. Especially my favorite varieties are pink Kahunsky, bull heart and cherry tomatoes Terek



            1. +1
              31 January 2020 13: 04
              Ooooo Dmitry congratulations, wonderful tomatoes! And probably deliciously excellent. I envy nobly, I have nowhere to plant in Sofia and if I buy a private house I want to be in the dense Rhodope Mountains, where there is snow and bears :)

              I give an idea - you can look for pink seeds. They are also very tasty.
              1. +2
                31 January 2020 13: 21
                Why look for them. Kahun pink tomatoes - (they are in my 2nd photo) a real Caucasian treasure. good
                1. +1
                  31 January 2020 13: 32
                  Actually, you, Dmitry imported Erdogan :) And we were filled with Spanish-Dutch cheap stuff - you have to look, choose and smell :) Or buy in the villages when I go to the province .... grandmothers sell directly on the road.
                  1. +3
                    31 January 2020 13: 48
                    And the Spanish-Dutch cheap stuff failed us - we have to look, choose and smell :) Or buy in the villages when I go to the province .... grandmothers sell directly on the road.

                    So much for you. Bulgaria has always been famous for its quality products and canned food. One "BulgarPlodExport" was worth what !!! Like anyone born in the USSR, I remember well the taste of your cabbage rolls, meatballs in tomato sauce, and meat with sweet peppers. I especially adored raspberry jam as a child. even found a picture on the internet
                    1. +1
                      31 January 2020 15: 34
                      There you go. Bulgaria has always been famous for its quality products and canned goods.


                      Well, they are now, but we are in an open union without borders and restrictions, and the EU subsidizes agriculture very heavily. So we do not have the right to restrict products from other EU countries. But this is not a market. Our products are simply more expensive than Dutch and Spanish tomatoes.
    6. +2
      31 January 2020 10: 27
      Interestingly, he knows about the occupation of a century ago by the French, British, Greeks, the metropolis of the former empire.
      But the "gratitude" for the help of Soviet Russia (in gold and weapons) was repaid by Ataturk's permission to the same British and French to create camps to prepare the forces of the invasion of Transcaucasia. A riot in Chechnya in order to cut off the garrisons of the Red Army from Georgia, the purpose of the invasion.
      A kind of gratitude, however.
      You should ALWAYS be prepared for the fact that agreements with the "infidels" are not worth the paper on which they are written. You should generally forget about oral agreements.
    7. +4
      31 January 2020 12: 11
      Turkey has never been our ally.
      And even more so - a friend!
      Since the capture of Constantinople by the Ottoman Turks in 1453. Since the destruction by the Turks of the cradle of Orthodox civilization. Istanbul called her ...
      Countless Russian-Turkish wars are proof of this.
      I can’t imagine against which enemy the Russian and Turkish soldiers can stand shoulder to shoulder. Against the invasion of Martian tripods? ..
      Let Erdogan imagine himself a new sultan. Now every woodpecker in the Middle East is the new Saladdin in his own dreams.
      Decided to make Turkey a world gas hub? This is destroyed by one termination of the contract, one strike of cruise missiles. Which will not be able to reflect the missile defense systems collected from us.
      Climbing to North Africa? Let's see how it gets out. During the First World War, it somehow sucks ...
      Decided to crush the Kurds? Let him pray that the provinces completely populated by them do not fall off from Turkey ...
      Already in the XXI century, the Turks managed to inspire us. Chechen terrorists were welcomed and trained, equipped and trained the Georgian army.
      God save us from such friends! But the Russian people will figure it out.
      No wonder we say: "Enemy or friend - you do not suddenly recognize!"
  2. +1
    31 January 2020 05: 51
    Far-reaching plans in the head of the newly-minted Turkish sultan may end in the very near future that this head will be demolished by a scimitar.
    1. 0
      31 January 2020 10: 59
      I agree with all my previous colleagues, especially Hunter 2. Yes, politics is such a disgusting thing, forcing you to suppress the desire to hit your "dear partner" with your fist, but on the contrary - to smile at him kindly. And the "dear partner" and even somewhere "friend" does not sleep - by all means climbs into your house and is not grateful to you at all.
      So I went to Zen yesterday morning and was horrified - a sheer mass of articles about the heroes of the Turkish TV series "The Magnificent Century", as well as cats. And absolutely nothing about our country with you. This situation was growing day by day, and yesterday it reached its apotheosis. Today the opposite is true. Apparently, someone with access to the right levers woke up and corrected the situation.
      Yes, of course, people watch TV less and less, and it is possible that the TV channel showing the series has launched "agents of influence" into the popular Zen resource. Only they turned out to be agents of Turkish influence in our country. Day after day, taking apart the images of the heroes of the series, really very good, these people, when unobtrusively, and when openly - with admiration in the texts, exalted the history of the Ottoman Empire, skillfully convincing readers of its progressive essence and the need for its revival. And all this was broadcast primarily to the Muslim part of our population, especially to the Crimeans. I have read most of the articles. Believe me, they were written by professional psychologists who know their business. Some commentators were even indignant: now we know the history of the Ottomans better than our own - this is, they say, how? They would write about themselves! ...
      Such is the policy. You are at the door, and he is at the window at you, and even with claims to your house.
  3. -3
    31 January 2020 06: 07
    In 1974, Turkish troops landed in Cyprus

    И the chapel Cyprus is also Erdogan?
    1. 0
      31 January 2020 09: 58
      Judging by the map, he and Israel must return to the Turkish Empire. what And the Turks partially chopped off Cyprus to Erdogan.
      1. -2
        31 January 2020 10: 05
        A Cyprus Turks to Erdogan

        In 1974, Erdogan was already 20 years old. So he could well chop off Cyprus, Otherwise, why did Mr. Samsonov mention Cyprus in his article about Erdogan. recourse
        1. 0
          31 January 2020 10: 16
          At age 20, Erdogan in Turkey was far from the one who made such decisions.
  4. gel
    +1
    31 January 2020 06: 07
    Huge plans. As if the head is not spinning.
  5. +4
    31 January 2020 06: 31
    Erdogan "saved" VVP "on his own head" and into future big troubles for Russia. This HPP to save the "sultan" will come back to haunt with troubles for Russia more than once (yes, in fact, it already comes around) .....
    1. +2
      31 January 2020 11: 24
      the whining of liberals has begun- more than once it will come across troubles for Russia ... Everything is fine, Turkey has its own interests, Russia has its own ... welcome to the multipolar world. Or is Turkey better to be a submissive sheep of the SGA? Better as it is than how it was.
    2. ANB
      0
      31 January 2020 11: 45
      And if he hadn’t saved, would it be better?
      For now, Putin can at least hint to Erdogan that he owes him.
      And who would sit in the chair instead of Erdogan?
      1. +2
        31 January 2020 12: 02
        "Obliged"? Gee-gee. There is such a mentality in the East that the "benefactor" always gets the dagger in the back first, from the "obliged" one. Yes Nobody likes to be "obligated", especially in the east.
  6. +2
    31 January 2020 06: 42
    Kurds need good support and war on their own territory will cool his ambitions.
    1. 0
      31 January 2020 10: 02
      The Americans have already thrown weapons to the Syrian Kurds. And they will throw the Turkish - to maintain their influence in the region.
  7. -6
    31 January 2020 07: 30
    Better Erdogan in Turkey, which can be calculated than the second pro-American Ukraine in the straits.
    1. 0
      1 February 2020 23: 17
      Well, Turkey will never become Ukraine, this is inconceivable ... But on the whole I will repeat my old thesis: we just need to survive America, a little is left, and there all the "blacksmiths of the vakula" will crawl to Moscow for "cherevichki" ... And not give ! Only one left heel, leased, and Schaub in the contract to register ...
  8. 0
    31 January 2020 07: 54
    Erdogan on the offensive: signs of a revival of the Ottoman Empire

    Signs it was or GHOSTS, time will tell. Anyway, we won’t get outside observers!
    1. -5
      31 January 2020 08: 15
      Quote: rocket757
      Anyway, we won’t get outside observers!

      Just do not bother Erdogan, he digs his own grave, and when he digs - the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles will be ours, members of the Anatolian Federal District of Russia. laughing
      1. +3
        31 January 2020 08: 32
        A bold statement! If you think about it ... not the first time we aimed at the straits, our rulers, BUT ....
        1. -2
          31 January 2020 08: 40
          Quote: rocket757
          If you think about it ... not the first time we aimed at the straits, our rulers, BUT ....

          But each time a new ruler came and flushed all the achievements of the previous one into the toilet ... sad
          1. +1
            31 January 2020 08: 47
            Not really ... there are usually arrogant from the islands were drawn, so much so that the simple can not be erased.
  9. +4
    31 January 2020 08: 01
    “Nikita Sergeyevich, as usual after serious negotiations, was drawn to the memories:

    - I remembered one episode from the times of the Civil War that told Mikoyan. I was in one of the units of the 11th army, which was located near Kutaisi. Once I had to go to the political department. The hotel had many bugs, so I decided to spend the night at the station. At night, a company of Armenian soldiers burst into the courtyard. I, as an agitator, talked to them. They listened, but did not believe in assessing the situation in Turkey. When finished, one thanked for the conversation, but "the Turks must be cut." I again began to tell that in Turkey there are peasants, workers, landowners and capitalists and that one cannot approach everyone the same. The soldiers agreed with everything, but "the Turks still need to be cut"

    Leonid Mlechin “Why did Stalin create Israel?”
    1. +4
      31 January 2020 10: 04
      It seems that the massacre of Turks and Armenians was mutual. But the Turks were more fortunate.
    2. 0
      31 January 2020 11: 44
      Quote: Plantagenet
      The soldiers agreed with everything, but "the Turks still need to be cut"

      In Israel there is an old adage used as a rule by old people.
      "Turks, Turks" in Hebrew - Turk, Turk.

      applied when you want to tell someone - Do not rush.

      went from the days of Turkish rule in Israel. it was meant that the Turks were killed slowly, one at a time.
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    1. +4
      31 January 2020 12: 31
      And why do you think the Americans did not oppose TP, and immediately opposed SP-2? That's the whole point that they knew that Turkey, sooner or later, will begin to pose Russia in a pose, as Ukraine has been successfully doing for many years. And in TP there is a huge amount of money. One powerful Russian compressor station, designed for 4 export pipes with a capacity of 60 billion cubic meters, cost a round sum
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      2. 0
        31 January 2020 19: 36
        Quote: kjhg
        why didn’t the Americans oppose TP

        Because they would be sent right away.
  11. -1
    31 January 2020 08: 44
    Calm We throw in the new Roksolana (from Ukraine) to Turkey and that Ottoman Empire will collapse as well as thanks to the first!
  12. 0
    31 January 2020 09: 16
    In the spring or early summer, straining for Russia from the south, it is necessary to squeeze the bearded in Syria, screaming; in Libya, the Wagnerites will continue to chew, again the Turkish cries; in May there will be a hike to the Crimea of ​​the Tatars from Ukraine (the Erdogan money must be worked out), stop, again a hysteria or sticks in the wheels, LDNR slowly begins to boil a little again. (((((
  13. +3
    31 January 2020 09: 28
    Does someone seriously believe a return to those times in the sense of the geographical location of the Ottomans? Yes, this will not happen, Erdogan will become impudent, and they can change the current configuration. The same striped can put a hand, since it didn’t work out, it can work out another time.
  14. +2
    31 January 2020 10: 41
    Once the Ottoman Empire was able to arise when everyone was not up to it, and there were no powerful global players (except, perhaps, Tamerlane, who almost stole her). Now nobody is interested in such a revival, and therefore they will not give it.
  15. -3
    31 January 2020 10: 45
    What kind of alarmism is Turkey from all sides squeezed by former opponents of the Ottoman Empire, each of which is stronger than Turkey in its capabilities and can create coalitions with other countries:
    - from the west of NATO;
    - from the north of the Russian Federation;
    - from the east of Iran;
    - from the south, Arab countries.

    Turkish influence in Syria has shrunk to a stub of Itlib province and the border strip along northern Syria, where the Turkomans live. Turkish influence in Libya is balanced by the influence of Egypt and Algeria. That's the whole "new Ottoman Empire".

    Another thing is that Turkey is quite capable of joining the neighboring small countries - Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia - depending on the position of NATO, the Russian Federation and Iran, of course.
    1. -3
      31 January 2020 11: 45
      Quote: Operator
      It is another matter that Turkey is quite capable of joining the neighboring small countries - Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia - depending on the position of NATO, the Russian Federation and Iran, of course.

      I want to see how the Turks will join Armenia.
  16. +3
    31 January 2020 12: 29
    One thought crawled into his head, and yet, with this situation, it was time to be friends with Israel (provided that he would moderate his ambitions in Syria). I think that this will be in Russia's favor. Erdogan is a mini Trump (a generalized symbol of the arrogant Anglo-Saxon).
    1. -1
      1 February 2020 10: 45
      Quote: NordUral
      One thought crawled into his head, and yet, with this situation, it was time to be friends with Israel (provided that he would moderate his ambitions in Syria). I think that this will be in Russia's favor.

      The thought is correct and it is already working.
      As soon as there is no IRGC in Syria and Russia remains to help rebuild Syria, Israel has nothing to do there
  17. 0
    31 January 2020 14: 05
    Erdogan himself does not act as a democratically elected president, but as a caliph and sultan - the head of the Muslim and Turkic world.

    Is it different for others? Vaughn Trump was democratically elected. How does it behave? Like an elephant in a china shop. He "cares" about everything.
    As for the same Turkey. This is an objective law of development. The stronger the country becomes (if it is not limited by some prohibitions of the Second World War), then its intentions in expansion are also manifested. The same Turkey dreams of the restoration of the Ottoman Empire, the same Iran dreams of exporting the Islamic revolution, the same USA is trying to "plug all holes".
    The stronger the state, the greater its desire to influence the world around it. Military way or peace - the third thing

    Quote: Boris55
    Just do not bother Erdogan, he digs his own grave, and when he digs - the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles will be ours, members of the Anatolian Federal District of Russia.

    Dream laughing At the same time, can you celebrate the next anniversary (how many have already passed, a couple of hundred years) from the moment you started dreaming of the capture of the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles? So you can toss and even nominate yourself for the presidency in the Anatolian Federal District laughing
  18. +2
    1 February 2020 15: 34
    Erdogan would certainly like this. But the fact that there are some signs of a "revival" of the Ottoman Empire is a utopia. The Ottoman Empire was built by fire and blood, oppression and enslavement. Nothing else held her together, that's why she fell apart.

    Yes, wherever possible, the Turks will spread their influence. And this is being done quite openly, the ideology of the Yeni Osmanlar - new Ottomans is openly preached in Turkey and laid down in the AKP program by its ideologist A. Davutoglu.

    But against this, there are many other factors that will be used by external players - the past sins of the Ottoman Empire (genocide of Christians and not only), the opposition of the Arab world (the Turks even Arabs tried to assimilate O. I. at sunset), Kurds, Iran, etc. .
  19. 0
    1 February 2020 22: 48
    Um, but just now I thought, why did the Sultans keep the capital in Constantinople, and not in Jerusalem? Or not in Mecca? Kind of weird.
    1. 0
      2 February 2020 22: 23
      Nothing strange. Constantinople is the second Rome, the imperial capital. Mecca and Jerusalem are sacred cities, but they are not drawn to the status of empire capitals.

      Both the Turks and the Muslims as a whole borrowed a lot from the Byzantine Empire. For example, symbols - a star and a crescent, these are symbols of the Byzantine Empire, initially they have nothing to do with Islam.

      And now? See how many states have a star and a crescent on their flags?
  20. 0
    2 February 2020 13: 33
    Erdogan does not have sufficient resources to create an empire. Erdogan's function is to provide test signals to the input of the systems under test. Monitoring the response of the system gives the interested person information about its state. Knowing the state of the system, you can manage it.

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