“Gas Mystery”: Rising gas prices no longer cover the appetites of the oil business


A few days ago on the web a screenshot of the information board allegedly one of the Crimean gas stations flashed. Above the numbers with gas prices is a postscript: "The price is for 0,9 liters." True, it's a Photoshop fake, one can only guess. But users already rushed with a comment - "Lived!"


There is no government for fraudsters yet


A similar practice has long been found in grocery stores, where packaging of 900 grams instead of kilograms has already become the norm. Therefore, this case is very similar to the truth. Moreover, the screenshot was taken from the Vesti program of the state Russian channel.

He recalled today when the media gully spread the advice of Dmitry Gelemurzin, executive director of the Goldman Group holding, on how to monitor the refueling of your car in order to identify gas shortages.

It is unlikely that anyone will take the expert’s advice, because without instrumental control (“by eye”) it’s not at all easy to prove the fact of fraud by a gas station operator. Another thing is that even such experts as the top manager of the Goldman Group holding recognize consumer fraud at gas stations.

Although this is an open secret. Back in November, the Ministry of Industry and Trade announced the results of the inspection of gas stations in the Central Federal District. “When measuring the loading of 10 liters with an exemplary measuring device,” TASS reports, “with a norm of not more than 25 ml, the actual filling was from 50 to 90 ml.”

The same picture was revealed when using a 50-liter measuring device. Here, with a norm of 125 ml, underfilling was about 200-300 ml. Violations were detected at two thirds of all gas stations inspected by specialists of the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

The verification did not give much effect. Because negotiable fines for such underfilling of fuel (50-100 thousand rubles) are compensated for a couple of hours of gas station operation. According to the results of its inspections, the Ministry of Industry and Trade entered the government with the initiative to toughen the punishment of gas stations for underfilling fuel.

In the proposed bill, “the penalty for underfilling of fuel will amount to 1% of the proceeds of gas stations for the previous year, but not less than 500 thousand rubles. If the violation is committed again, it will grow to 3%, but not less than 2 million rubles. ”

However, the bill has not yet been given a move. It is expected that the proposals of the Ministry of Industry and Trade will be included in the new Code of Administrative Violations (CAO), which is due to enter into force on January 1, 2021.

Low-quality fuel began to be poured into cars less often


Meanwhile, fines for falsified and low-quality fuel are relatively effective. They began to be used in January 2018, and already in the first year more than 50 million rubles were recovered from violators. Last year, an approximate amount of fines (47 million) was issued only for the first three quarters.

“The average collection amount is 580 thousand rubles,” Rosstandart reports, “the maximum fine is more than 2 million rubles.”

True, there is one "hitch." So far, only 18 million rubles of the accrued 47 have been able to recover from the violators. The remaining amount remains on the accounts of refuellers who challenge fines at the authorities.

Nevertheless, Rosstandart notes the effect of the introduction of new measures: "The total share of falsified and low-quality fuel has decreased, the fuel market is being cleared of unscrupulous participants." Last year (for three quarters) violations were found only at 81 gas stations. Two fines were issued for repeated violations (one of them was paid). In addition to a monetary penalty, gas stations may be suspended for 90 days. This holds back the most zealous refuellers who dilute the fuel for our vehicles.

It should be noted that Russian consumers are still more concerned about the cost of gasoline. This non-transparent cocktail of taxes, excise taxes, costs of oil companies and their own profits is not widely understood. But it’s obvious to everyone: when in 2014 oil prices fell down, the price tags at Russian gas stations did not even budge. Immediately there were gurus from the economy who explained: "So the dollar jumped." Then the dollar went down, and a liter of gasoline - up. There were other gurus who said something from the series: "Sanction pressure makes itself felt, gasoline cannot but respond." It turns out that the "gas secret" is revealed: no matter what happens in the country and the world, gas prices will rise, and there will always be those who "explain" the reason.

As a result, they announce that the government "in manual mode" begins to control. This was the case in 2018. In June, the Federal State Statistics Service reported: the price of gasoline has already decreased in 24 regions - by half a percent percentage. Today decreased by 0,5%, tomorrow increased by 5% ...

However, soon gas stations and the oil business as a whole won back this decline. Consumers accepted high gas prices as inevitable evil and quietly resigned. But the tankers thought this was not enough. Rising gas prices do not cover their appetites. Now they are also cheating with fuel underfilling. According to the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the government decided to restore order at the gas station. They promise to do it in 2021. We will wait again ...
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  1. Ros 56 30 January 2020 16: 59 New
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    Refueling is not milk or water; it can burn out on occasion.
    1. Lexus 30 January 2020 17: 04 New
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      Hucksters will set up new ones, increase the price and under-fill "index".
      It is not customary for them to infringe on themselves in their "appetites."
      1. lucul 30 January 2020 17: 43 New
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        Hucksters will set up new ones, increase the price and under-fill "index".
        It is not customary for them to infringe on themselves in their "appetites."

        Simple fines cannot be solved here .....
        One must act decisively, for example:
        In the proposed bill, “the penalty for underfilling of fuel will amount to 1% of the proceeds of gas stations for the previous year, but not less than 500 thousand rubles. If the violation is committed again, it will grow to 3%, but not less than 2 million rubles. ”

        They love their loan interest from birth, so their fines should be ONLY a percentage of revenue - there simply are no other options ....
        So to speak - percentage by percentage ...
        1. beer-youk 31 January 2020 18: 48 New
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          On some underfillings, the average refueling in the regional center will beat this fine in a couple of weeks, and if the network is fined, then in a couple of hours.
    2. SOVIET UNION 2 30 January 2020 17: 17 New
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      Who will burn? How will the criminal code look at it?
      True, there is one "hitch." So far, only 18 million rubles of the accrued 47 have been able to recover from the violators. The remaining amount remains on the accounts of refuellers who challenge fines at the authorities.
      Maybe this is the reason? Maybe we need to do as our striped partners, the seizure of accounts and property? And after the arrest, go and dispute how much you want!
  2. Kleber 30 January 2020 17: 00 New
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    They will also be underfilled while there will be administrative, not criminal liability. And prices will rise until state regulation is included.
    1. DPN
      DPN 30 January 2020 22: 37 New
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      prices will rise until state regulation is included.
      I put + only this will not happen under our capitalism.
    2. Alex Nevs 31 January 2020 18: 20 New
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      So we come to a planned economy, many questions already arise - Element + the market is against social programs. So the Just (social) and Capitalist state concepts are incompatible.
      Or capitalism or socialism. Both that and another, utopia. That’s the whole political economy. How half pregnant. The planned economy is ahead, and this is the struggle of the new Russians (capitalists) with the Supreme commanders. And so all my life someone has been fighting with someone.
  3. Amateur 30 January 2020 17: 01 New
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    According to the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the government decided to restore order at the gas station.

    Since Soviet times, internal calculations with gasoline are in tons, and external, at retail, are in liters. The conversion of tons to liters is according to special tables that take into account temperature and much more. With "competent" use, "shrinkage / utruska" reaches 15%. Calculate what kind of money, I suggest anyone. Until this ton / liter system is abolished, no one will ever bring order to the gas station.
    1. Blacksmith 55 30 January 2020 17: 08 New
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      That's right, the volume of gasoline is very temperature dependent. This is not water, there the volume varies slightly.
      Therefore, it is difficult to determine underfilling.
    2. BAI
      BAI 30 January 2020 17: 17 New
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      Around the world, 500 g + 500 g = 1 kg and only in Russia - a liter.
      1. Amateur 30 January 2020 17: 21 New
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        Around the world, 500 g + 500 g = 1 kg and only in Russia - a liter.
        Just not with gasoline workers. It can be both 0,85 and 1,15 liters. How profitable
        1. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 18: 04 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Just not with gasoline workers. It can be both 0,85 and 1,15 liters. How profitable

          Well, at a gas station, gas is given in liters, and the price is per liter. But still, they manage to deceive.
          1. Amateur 30 January 2020 18: 28 New
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            Well, at a gas station, gas is given in liters, and the price is per liter.

            I probably didn’t explain exactly enough: The gas station sells gas in liters, but receives it in tons from the supplier.
            1. Zaurbek 30 January 2020 22: 24 New
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              The tax takes everything into account.
    3. Alex Nevs 31 January 2020 18: 25 New
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      It is physically Impossible to manage One territory (a team of 1000 people) in large territories - it will fall asleep. More precisely, I have already slept. No direct feedback. And through intermediaries the picture of 100% spoils. While not falling asleep when collecting taxes. But the fact that they fall is still not visible (like a gopher).
  4. Zaurbek 30 January 2020 17: 10 New
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    The increase in gas prices is not related to gas stations. Prices are raised by the state through excise taxes. Selling gasoline for gas stations as a low-profit business and it can be carried out normally only by vertically integrated companies. And the main income (profit) of a gas station is a store at a gas station.
    1. Ingvar 72 30 January 2020 17: 17 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      And the main income (profit) of a gas station is a store at a gas station.

      Do not tell me, the gas station has a certain percentage of the price of gasoline, and it is not as small as you say. The store is a related trade, few people buy there because of overpriced. hi
      1. Zaurbek 30 January 2020 22: 23 New
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        Has, but independent gas stations fly from the market ....
        1. Ingvar 72 30 January 2020 22: 53 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          It has, but independent gas stations fly from the market.

          Now everywhere large networks are crushing "trifle", not only in this area. request
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    3. mark2 30 January 2020 17: 53 New
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      [quote] Selling gasoline for gas stations as a low-profit business and it can be carried out normally only by vertically integrated companies. / quote]

      I have a few familiar poor gas station salespeople.
      They’ve risen well, I’ll tell you. And this despite the fact that they are only managers at the Rosneft gas station.
      1. Zaurbek 30 January 2020 22: 22 New
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        Fuel sales margins plummeted. Even more. The production and sale of gasoline does not greatly increase profits, in comparison, with the mere sale of oil. You can simply buy gasoline on the open market and it will not be more expensive than domestic. Everything else is excise duty. In Turkey and Europe - the maximum. We have medium, in the USA - low, in CA and UAE are small.
        1. Mastrer 31 January 2020 02: 43 New
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          It’s a little wrong. More precisely, not at all. For example, the excise tax in Kazakhstan and in the Russian Federation is approximately the same, but the prices vary greatly.
          1. Zaurbek 31 January 2020 07: 12 New
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            Thailand, for example, does not produce anything, but prices are like ours.
  5. Tank jacket 30 January 2020 17: 11 New
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    Oil inspection works, send a complaint, everything will be all right.
    1. Ingvar 72 30 January 2020 17: 19 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      Oil inspection works, send a complaint, everything will be all right.

      Of course, not with us. If the gas station is large-networked, no inspection will go there.
      1. Tank jacket 30 January 2020 17: 24 New
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        Ingvar hi , it’s more expensive there ... There are fines. They have time to respond to motor oils, and even more so to gasoline.
        1. Ingvar 72 30 January 2020 17: 43 New
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          Quote: Tank jacket
          There are fines.

          Fines are everywhere, but they are ignored, or they pay and work further, because profit covers all fines. I’ll draw a parallel with insurance companies - both they “pedal” the payment deadlines and pedal, despite the fact that they seem to have been fined for the delay.
      2. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 18: 08 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        If the gas station is large-networked, no inspection will go there.

        Yes, however. Well, at the gas station on the column is a meter that is checked, sealed and issued a certificate, or "craftsmen" bypass it all.
        1. neri73-r 30 January 2020 18: 17 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          If the gas station is large-networked, no inspection will go there.

          Yes, however. Well, at the gas station on the column is a meter that is checked, sealed and issued a certificate, or "craftsmen" bypass it all.

          A computer program, everything is just like God's day.
    2. New Year day 30 January 2020 21: 11 New
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      Oil inspection works, send a complaint, everything will be all right.

      nonsense. In December, I was faced with underfilling: I paid for 20 liters, and on the column screen after removing the gun - 19.6. I am a refueling- Uzbek point to this, and he - "do not understand"
      I went to the operator, there is also an Uzbek and convinces me- "it seemed to you"
      It is impossible to prove, while the tanker went to the operator, the scoreboard was reset.
      He began to call all the indicated numbers and could not reach anyone within 2 days. Spit and no longer ride there. And this is MOSCOW! Well then, what is going on outside the Moscow Ring Road!
      1. Tank jacket 30 January 2020 21: 25 New
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        Horror is happening beyond the Moscow Ring Road, there are 100500 liters of underfilling wassat And constantly ...
  6. GKS 2111 30 January 2020 17: 12 New
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    "gas secret" is revealed: no matter what happens in the country and the world, gas prices will rise, and there will always be those who "explain" the reason.
    An old joke on the topic of gasoline rises in price in 3 cases:
    1. oil on the world market has risen in price, gasoline has risen in price, is it logical? is logical.
    2. oil has fallen in price on the world market, gasoline is getting more expensive to compensate for losses from the sale of oil, is it logical? is logical.
    3. oil does not change in price, gasoline rises in price, however inflation is logical?
    Unlike our country in the USA, prices on the fuel market are quite volatile and are determined not by the will of officials, but by global economic trends — they increase when oil prices go up and decrease when black gold becomes cheaper. The cost of fuel in Russia affects much more degrees are not the price of oil, but taxes, therefore, when quotes of "black gold" are reduced, we do not see any changes in the price of gasoline at gas stations.
    1. neri73-r 30 January 2020 18: 18 New
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      Quote: GKS 2111
      global economic trends — they rise when oil rises in price, and they decline when black gold becomes cheaper.

      Similarly in Germany.
      1. Zaurbek 31 January 2020 07: 14 New
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        In $ it is with us like that. There are no rubles.
      2. TANKISTONE 6 February 2020 17: 29 New
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        neri73-r January 30, 2020

        Similarly in Germany.
        Come on?! In which particular land? Western capitalists have long since come up with 100500 reasons that prices should not be cut! ...
  7. prior 30 January 2020 17: 14 New
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    "Rising gas prices no longer covers the appetites of the oil business"

    For there is no limit to the greed of man ....
    1. Reserve officer 30 January 2020 23: 24 New
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      Human greed and envy - since the time of the Old Testament. But the state exists in order to establish rules and strictly punish those who do not comply with them. In relation to fraud - in particular. Regardless of acquaintances and all nepotism.
      Or is there something special here?
  8. BAI
    BAI 30 January 2020 17: 16 New
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    a screenshot was taken from the Vesti program of the state Russian channel.

    Absolutely not an argument. The Internet is full of advertisements for pseudo medicines, allegedly from Malysheva or Malakhov (advertisements), with videos of supposedly their programs.
  9. demo 30 January 2020 17: 20 New
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    The verification did not give much effect. Because negotiable fines for such underfilling of fuel (50-100 thousand rubles) are compensated for a couple of hours of gas station operation.

    I do not justify anyone.
    But let's count.
    There is a wholesale price, but there is a retail.
    The difference is usually 2-3 rubles per liter.
    A gas station usually takes 20 cubic meters of fuel of three kinds per day.
    The most popular A 92.
    On the day, the profit of gas stations from one fuel truck is from 40 to 60 thousand rubles.
    But!
    Are taxes paid?
    Try not to pay!
    Checkers milking?
    The faces are covered (this is their prerogative).
    Salary to staff, etc.
    Well, let anyone who swings like that, pay fines, try to earn a million a day, then we'll talk.

    I do not sell fuel.
    But I’ve been dealing with fuel problems for 10 years and I know what I’m talking about.

    Therefore, underfilling is a natural process to rob someone who cannot fight them.
    But it doesn’t work out differently.
    1. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 18: 11 New
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      Quote: demo
      The faces are covered (this is their prerogative).

      Who are they?
      1. demo 30 January 2020 19: 15 New
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        And these are those who are the main in the power block.
        Write the initial letter, and then think.
        1. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 19: 38 New
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          Quote: demo
          Write the initial letter, and then think.

          Gee, long gone from this.
          1. demo 30 January 2020 19: 52 New
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            Your happiness.
  10. Fishery 30 January 2020 17: 28 New
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    Well, xs, they are achieving, bu hybrids and electric are already like ordinary cars .... not Lada of course, but almost all the friends who live in a private house already have electric cars
    1. Altona 30 January 2020 18: 07 New
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      used hybrids and electros are already like ordinary cars ...

      ----------------------
      In Europe, many already use an electric car, as the climate and roads have long been allowed. In 10 years, an electric car will be more in demand than gasoline, especially in those places where it is needed only to arrive on a good road to work and make on-duty purchases in the evening.
  11. Stas1973 30 January 2020 17: 37 New
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    Today it was harnessed. Paid 1000 poured into 999 p 93 kopecks. And taking into account underfilling ... and at the price of diesel fuel is more expensive than 95 gasoline ...
  12. Igor Borisov_2 30 January 2020 17: 51 New
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    The Ministry of Industry and Trade is cunning about 25-90 ml. I had a chance to work in a savings bank and the department manager decided to find out at which gas stations they did not top up. There were 32 cars in the department, this is not enough. One of the cars was equipped with a device that measures the amount of fuel being poured, and sent to wheel it at different gas stations. The result - no matter how much fuel you fill up at different gas stations, underfilling was from 300 ml to 900 ml .....
  13. parusnik 30 January 2020 18: 34 New
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    They promise to do it in 2021.
    ... And now is a good year? 2021 will be lean? laughing
  14. GenNick 30 January 2020 18: 44 New
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    Quote: Kleber
    They will also be underfilled while there will be administrative, not criminal liability. And prices will rise until state regulation is included.

    Do you believe what you wrote? I’m not talking about prices, but about responsibility.
    Yes, I like Lukoil, and as a resident of a neighboring state, I declare the quality is quite ... but do they have such a thing as slowing down the pump topping up?
    It was with me that the last liter was poured into the tank-attention !!!! - 17 minutes !!!!
    On? - answered, the computer crashed
  15. Petrol cutter 30 January 2020 20: 23 New
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    “It turns out that the“ gas secret ”is revealed: no matter what happens in the country and the world, gas prices will rise, and there will always be those who“ explain ”the reason.”
    So this is not only a gasoline secret! And she has been discovered long ago by the entire sane population. Personally, I understood the whole system twenty years ago, for example. In the post-Soviet era, prices can only go up.
    Otherwise, how will the domestic capitalist be enriched ?! Other options are not considered here.
  16. 1970mk 30 January 2020 20: 25 New
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    Read the constitution! The bowels, according to it, do not belong to the people. Market! For whatever they want, they sell it! How much they want and pour it! Not satisfied, go to the competitor))
  17. Iskander. Richard 30 January 2020 20: 37 New
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    The Russians will pay for everything, and for the appetites of the oligarchy, and for the desire of officials to live in luxury and for the warriors of the supreme, and the saying for the Russians is appropriate, "did not live rich and do not start!"
  18. New Year day 30 January 2020 21: 18 New
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    It’s useless to fight gas prices. Putin himself fought and couldn’t

    And Putin can do anything laughing
    1. Golovan Jack 30 January 2020 21: 45 New
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      Doctor. You have not been told that you are a bore?

      Well, so I tell you this. You are, in my memory, this sheet, since 10 have definitely already hung out ... the sheet has become frayed laughing
      1. New Year day 30 January 2020 21: 48 New
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        the sheet got loose

        then Rosstat laughing

        the essence of this does not change - growth goes and goes
        1. Golovan Jack 30 January 2020 21: 49 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          growth goes and goes

          Well Duc growth is ... and goes ...

          What exactly are you unhappy with, doctor? I do not understand request
  19. 75 Sergey 30 January 2020 22: 19 New
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    Underfilling may be at the level of gas station operators
  20. Victor Orthodox 31 January 2020 05: 25 New
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    And why did everyone cling to gas stations, as if they were raising prices, and not oil producers. Nobody touches those who really raise prices. Paradox!
  21. Titsen 31 January 2020 06: 59 New
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    Human greed and envy - since the time of the Old Testament. But the state exists in order to establish rules and strictly punish those who do not comply with them. In relation to fraud - in particular. Regardless of acquaintances and all nepotism.
    Or is there something special here?


    Of course, special!

    The raven will not peck out the crow!
  22. Slasherrus 31 January 2020 06: 59 New
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    I fully support Zaurbek’s comment, now gas stations make profit from the store, not from selling fuel, regarding managers of large oil companies who have risen, not everything is clear there, and there are other selling prices and left-handed fuel. The high price of fuel is primarily beneficial to the state; it receives the main margin from the price. In 2018 - 2019, in Russia there were only 3 plants that made profit from the production and sale of motor fuels, now probably already 2. The rest were reduced to zero, small refineries became unprofitable. The outflow of motor fuels from the Russian market immediately began, it became much more profitable to sell fuel abroad. An example, the scheme of work has become something like this, refineries produced gasoline, for example with 80 octane, and sold abroad as a finished product, but at the price of straight-run. And it turned out to be more profitable than working on the domestic market. The government naturally understood what threatens the deficiency of motor fuels in the market and in a strict form obliged them to sell fuels in the domestic market, introducing a quota of at least which the refinery should sell and how much and what type of fuel. To support those who work on the domestic market, the government even introduced a reverse excise tax, damn why it was necessary to arrange such maneuvers, it’s a secret for me that the government of Dima iPhone smoked and thought about it, introducing an excise tax and a maneuver that shoved processing in the ass in one fell swoop , and then they began to introduce a reverse excise tax, also a question.
  23. Ros 56 31 January 2020 08: 36 New
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    They touched on a good topic, practically everyone is concerned. good
  24. Vikxnumx 31 January 2020 09: 38 New
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    This non-transparent cocktail of taxes, excise taxes, costs of oil companies and their own profits is not widely understood. But it’s obvious to everyone: when in 2014 oil prices fell down, the price tags at Russian gas stations did not even budge. Immediately there were gurus from the economy who explained: "So the dollar jumped." Then the dollar went down, and a liter of gasoline - up. There were other gurus who said something from the series: "Sanction pressure makes itself felt, gasoline cannot but respond." It turns out that the "gas secret" is revealed: no matter what happens in the country and the world, gas prices will rise, and there will always be those who "explain" the reason.

    So it is necessary to reduce the costs of oil companies - give management a hand and pick up a rake and shovels!
    1. arnulla 31 January 2020 17: 55 New
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      Nothing will change, the oligarchs will grow rich, we will be poor. The power to pretend that is concerned))
  25. Nikolay Simudrov 31 January 2020 09: 58 New
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    the author took a fake about 0.9 liters and began to make logical construction on them, sadly, but the value of the article from this falls below the baseboard .. https: //smart-lab.ru/mobile/topic/523207/
    1. Pavel Fedorov 4 February 2020 11: 09 New
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      Well, well, the point is to cut the dough with the people, give the Jews freedom so they will put 05, 04, 0,3)))
  26. Million 31 January 2020 13: 18 New
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    It’s necessary to shorten the year by 4 months. Before the election there will not be much time left. Although, in this case, the guarantor can extend the year ...
  27. Pavel Fedorov 4 February 2020 11: 08 New
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    The oil crook both robbed people and robs - kids in landon must be fed
  28. Gust 5 February 2020 16: 13 New
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    This hidden message is the most honest refueling! I regularly refuel gas at the gas stations of one large federal company, and gas stations are not franchised. They are located within 30-40 km from each other. In the same empty cylinder of 40 l at one temperature at one gas station it is stable 39,8 to full, at another 42,8-43.