“I couldn’t explain anything to them”: US Marine spoke about operation with Poles snipers in Iraq


In the United States, servicemen’s memories of the start of a military operation in Iraq in 2003 are published. One of the U.S. troops who shares his stories with the US media, - a former fighter of a special unit of the US Navy Chris Harmer.


Harmer talks about how he had to act together with the Polish military on the first day of the military operation in Iraq.
From Harmer's material in the American media The Drive:

March 20, 2003, when our operation began in Iraq, we patrolled the southern part of the country on a US Navy HH-60 Seahawk helicopter. Before that, when we landed at the base in Al-Magasil, I began to find out what forces were stationed there besides us. People appeared in unfamiliar military uniforms and with unfamiliar insignia. It turned out that it was the Polish GROM special forces detachment. I watched their actions, they were encouraging. Impressed by professionals who can still be trusted.

Prior to the departure of helicopters by a special squadron of the US Navy, reinforcements were requested for each side for patrol. The American marine says that two Polish snipers were sent to a helicopter with him.

From the material:

It turned out that with me in a helicopter were two pilots - an officer of our squadron, and two Pole snipers went to cover us. If we had done a lot with the officers before, were engaged in joint training, then we never interacted with the Polish military. Then the command with a smile said to us: "Just trust these guys, that's all."

According to the American marines, it was already in the air that none of the Polish snipers knew English.

From the material:

A strange situation arose: I could not even understand how much you can trust them in that matter, to open or not to open fire on targets. That is, I had to completely rely on them in the matter of covering up the operation. At the same time, I could not really explain anything to them, even to the point that they opened fire on any targets that are dangerous to us.

When patrolling on March 20, the helicopter that Harmer was in was escorting a small flotilla US Navy boats in the area of ​​Haur al-Zubeira and the port of Umm Qasr.

According to the American, the first patrol passed without incident. At the same time, the American marine made it clear that with the Polish snipers on board the helicopter crew and he himself did not feel safe.
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  1. michael2000 30 January 2020 08: 22 New
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    And what is the article about? That there was no consistency in the combined units? So it is necessary to make claims against the command, maybe the Poles were really professionals.
    1. Evdokim 30 January 2020 08: 31 New
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      Quote: michael2000
      maybe the Poles were really professionals.

      Only unfortunately the US Marine is Polish-speaking, and American-style no-no-no-me. good
      1. michael2000 30 January 2020 08: 45 New
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        Then the command was to include those who understand English in such a detachment.
        I’m at least from the breeds of shtafirov, but I also understand that the appointment to the squad depends on the commanders. And therefore it turns out a propaganda article against the Poles.
        1. Thrall 30 January 2020 08: 55 New
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          The Marine was lucky that he was not covered by Ukrainian himbatovtsy smile
          Or Gadia Savchenko laughing
          1. Cowbra 30 January 2020 09: 34 New
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            What a crap! Do you recognize this pretzel with a machine gun?

            Thu! Yes it's
    2. Romka 30 January 2020 08: 42 New
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      Article about the Poles. It’s necessary to write at least something about them. yes
      1. Catfish 31 January 2020 00: 38 New
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        Article about the Poles. It’s necessary to write at least something about them.

        And be sure to cheat, or, in extreme cases, hint at failure.
        Should the Kosciuszko brigade also be paraffinized? Or Konstantin Rokossovsky, is he a Pole?
    3. Azazelo 30 January 2020 08: 50 New
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      An article that even with a helicopter having a machine gun in the hands of the American military does not feel confident. They are scared for their lives. Probably only in the case when they write on people who have just been killed, they feel confident kings of the world.
      1. voyaka uh 30 January 2020 11: 13 New
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        "They are scared for their lives" ////
        ----
        Any normal soldier in a war is scared for his life.
        This is a healthy fear - it allows you to survive.
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          DRM 30 January 2020 21: 15 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          "They are scared for their lives" ////
          ----
          Any normal soldier in a war is scared for his life.
          This is a healthy fear - it allows you to survive.

          Here, many of the "experts" did not really serve the army. But "patriotism" rolls over.
    4. Svetlana 30 January 2020 09: 02 New
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      >> What is the article about <<
      An article that an American soldier feels superior to others. Bo only the "master" thinks that everyone should speak his language and tries to explain to the servants what they should do to him.
    5. 1959ain 30 January 2020 09: 27 New
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      Iran will arrange, USA in Iraq, 2 Vietnam. Amerov is frightened by the Russian name Katyusha. The American embassy in Baghdad is attacked by Katyusha missiles, Bloomberg claims, citing Iraqi security forces. An indication of the shelling of the diplomatic mission "Katyushami" is made in the title of the publication. The text says that "five Katyusha missiles were fired into the fortified" green zone "in Baghdad, and one of them went straight into the building of the US Embassy." Thus, the American publication indicates a possible involvement in the attack of Russia. Recall that "Katyushas" during the years of World War II were unofficially called barrelless field rocket artillery systems, originally - BM-13. The name was fixed and began to be used in colloquial designation of such systems as multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) "Grad".
    6. Cowbra 30 January 2020 09: 31 New
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      The fact that NATO is all through the afhedron))) It is rather mysterious how people who do not speak the official international language get into international forces? The second thing that NATO has in life is problems with interaction, not only within the detachment, but also with the locals. How did an American Norwegian frigate drown? And he did not understand nifiga in Norwegian, but commanded a ship in Norway. The truth is not clear why no one translated him. that the captain of the tanker and the dispatcher are yelling.
      In short, I repeat - an example made through the opa in NATO. Nothing special to be honest
    7. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 10: 19 New
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      It was necessary not to drag anyone to the war with him at least, but to stay at home for good and not to unleash military conflicts around the world.
      handsome Americans: pull everyone into a harlot with shooting, the more flags, the better, and then put it all as a solution 'civilized world'.
      And of course, after almost twenty years, it's time to tell the world about their experiences, such a fashion
  2. Cananecat 30 January 2020 08: 23 New
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    And the first phrase he learned in Kotor in Polish was "the uterus of bosk ..."
    1. Adam Khomich 30 January 2020 08: 36 New
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      ... totally lousy ...
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  3. Lexus 30 January 2020 08: 24 New
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    it turned out that not one of the Polish snipers was fluent in English

    They rushed at their feet to bow and kiss their hands, and he, poor thing, did not understand what they wanted from him. I decided that they’re getting married. bully
  4. pru-pavel 30 January 2020 08: 25 New
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    Most Americans have relaxed something, they no longer even know polskiego języka. And how will they live? In the modern sea without polskiego języka you can’t get anywhere.
    1. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 08: 57 New
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      Quote: pru-pavel
      The Americans are completely relaxed, they no longer even know polskiego języka. And how will they live?

      And then instead of the Poles they will start to take the Sumerians.
      1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 10: 31 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        And then instead of the Poles they will start to take the Sumerians.
        Among its loyal subjects Americans will always find politicians who expose their people in the interests of amers under the distribution.
        Although in fairness I must say: among the striped allies there was one unit that did not fall into this war due to self-recusation. The reason is really funny: politicians, in their pursuit of deflection, and the command refused to fund the preparation and payment. There were less legible and principled ones, then later in Iraq the whole coalition dressed, trained ...
    2. Krasnodar 30 January 2020 10: 22 New
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      Quote: pru-pavel
      Most Americans have relaxed something, they no longer even know polskiego języka. And how will they live? In the modern sea without polskiego języka you can’t get anywhere.

      Neither to the Polish Embassy, ​​nor to the Polish Consulate ... How to live on ??
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  6. Adam Khomich 30 January 2020 08: 39 New
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    Anecdote in the topic:
    The German learned Russian, went on an internship to Russia. Walking through the village. Grandma drives geese along the road, yells at them:
    “Ah, you dogs, here I am.”
    The German is at a loss. He thinks so. It's geese, not dogs. He approaches the grandmother, asks.
    - Are these geese?
    - Geese, geese.
    “Why do you call them dogs?”
    - So these pigs trampled the whole garden.
  7. rocket757 30 January 2020 08: 42 New
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    At the same time, the American marine made it clear that with the Polish snipers on board the helicopter crew and he himself did not feel safe.

    But Polish politicians feel so confident, calm, just wow, under the wing of the whales.
    Here is nothing, some, history does not teach! Not even far away, that’s direct, direct, yesterday.
    Could the Kurds ask around ....
    1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 10: 11 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Polish politicians feel under the wing Minke whales so confidently, calmly, simply ....

      Let me disagree, this is a place it's called differently, I'm afraid to attract the anger of moderators recourse
      Quote: rocket757
      That’s nothing, some, history doesn’t teach! ... Could the Kurds ask around ....
      why the Kurds: Polish history is replete with suitable examples, but who in the "civilized" world teaches history ...
      1. rocket757 30 January 2020 10: 22 New
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        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        I'm afraid to attract the anger of the moderators

        Around the same, hanging on the limit request
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Polish history abounds with suitable examples,

        Yes, but there is no way for them to be so memorable.
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        why do the Kurds:

        This is for a very brief memorable. Consider yesterday it was, the dust has not yet settled down, after the minke whales, who were draping.
        1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 12: 36 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          why do the Kurds
          This is for a very brief memorable. Consider it yesterday, the dust has not yet settled down ...

          Do you think they know where these very Kurds are? Only if it is a local kebab.
          The foreign policy of RI / Union / RF is very generous and allows all neighbors sculpt one’s own history and trying to get into unclean little hands in Russia - you’ll have to beat it more often and swipe, then history and geography will be printed in the brain so that later they don’t remind about applicants
          1. rocket757 30 January 2020 13: 02 New
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            Our generosity is not accepted for what!
            Here the bear, too, usually flirts on the dogs and stomps on ... until the bruised mongrel bites its heel .... and then the guts in all directions, usually, and certainly not bear ones.
            1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 13: 25 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Our generosity does not accept for what.
              They do not remember kinship. How many centuries have lived next to this Bear, and they all plan to step on the rake ...
              1. rocket757 30 January 2020 13: 49 New
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                And this rake on the handle is so kind, massive is !!! Flies in the forehead and immediately kirdyk.
                1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 18: 21 New
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                  Quote: rocket757
                  Flies in the forehead and immediately kirdyk.
                  Apparently another bone under the lobeshnik, the rake does not help them learn the lessons of history.
                  1. rocket757 30 January 2020 20: 43 New
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                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    Apparently another bone under the lobeshnik, the rake does not help them learn the lessons of history.

                    Shoy, I forgot about the pansky obstinacy! That at least explains something!
                    1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 21: 05 New
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                      Quote: rocket757
                      I forgot about pansky obstinacy! That at least explains something!

                      Well, no. This explains why thinking is repulsed completely.
    2. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 10: 49 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      But Polish politicians feel so confident, calm, just wow, under the wing of the whales.

      A chicken hatched from an egg always feels good under a brood hen.
      1. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 12: 29 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        A chicken hatched from an egg always feels good under a brood hen.

        Not not, well, what can you call a 'power' od morza do morza simple chicken. In fairness - a cocky cock, in my opinion this is better suited to the situation. Although they have trouble with memory: they always did end up in the kitchen, and someone else did it.
        1. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 12: 51 New
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          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          Although they have trouble with memory: they always did end up in the kitchen, and someone else did it.

          Well then, let it be called a "daily cockerel," anyway under the section.
    3. mikstepanenko 30 January 2020 14: 06 New
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      But Polish politicians feel so confident, calm, just wow, under the wing of the whales.
      So in 1939, they felt confident under the wing of the Germans ’ears.
      1. rocket757 30 January 2020 14: 11 New
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        Quote: mikstepanenko
        So in 1939, they felt confident under the wing of the Germans ’ears.

        There is a little different. Then the “haberdashery” was counting on staying with the “cardinal” to stay ... he even got a lure, a piece of Czechoslovakia. It just didn’t turn out long, because the “cardinal" decided that he needed such a “cow”. It happens.
  8. Almatinets 30 January 2020 08: 46 New
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    memories of nothing
  9. tihonmarine 30 January 2020 08: 53 New
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    According to the American Marine, it was already revealed in the air that not one of the Polish snipers knew English.
    If you want to be understood, learn Polish.
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  11. cniza 30 January 2020 08: 55 New
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    At the same time, the American marine made it clear that with the Polish snipers on board the helicopter crew and he himself did not feel safe.


    What is the article about? that the Poles did not know English? ...
    1. LiSiCyn 30 January 2020 09: 37 New
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      Victor hi
      Quote: cniza
      What is the article about?

      That the first impression can be deceiving. At first, he did not worry (at the base). But when the nuances were clarified, he was mandrapped ... laughing
      Wimps mattresses. Our sergeants and officers of any nationality of the USSR could explain. On fingers. wink
      1. cniza 30 January 2020 09: 43 New
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        We have a language that everyone understands. lol hi
        1. LiSiCyn 30 January 2020 10: 01 New
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          Victor, not only ... We have a desire and an innate skill. We can even bear with us that we are some kind of pscheks .. lol
      2. aakvit 1 February 2020 11: 38 New
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        I confirm! Himself so ... drinks
        1. LiSiCyn 1 February 2020 11: 41 New
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          If it’s no secret, to whom did they explain? wink hi
          1. aakvit 1 February 2020 11: 44 New
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            Azerbaijanian. In our understanding, he accidentally fell into the army (still Soviet, 86) - he came from the mountains to the bazaar, were caught, ceremonied, and to us, in the Air Force! wassat
            1. LiSiCyn 1 February 2020 11: 55 New
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              Well, was there any sense? Something came out of it?
              I myself, from Middle Asia. Let's just say, the city is very different, from the "non-urban." But even with me, I had a friend ("weak") who had come in urgently from the foreman. Moreover, he served in the Otar training ( belay ) It seems that he finished school again ... laughing
              1. aakvit 5 February 2020 18: 14 New
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                Sense? Well, he began to understand!
                True, he did not become a soldier. I don’t know how it is with religious feelings, but laughing PORK at the utility room he was good! good
    2. Pete mitchell 30 January 2020 10: 38 New
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      hi Victor. These are such modern reflections on the theme of the Tower of Babel in the war zone. First: Americans will always find someone to expose for distribution. Secondly: national politicians do not care about the fate of their citizens - the main thing is that the gentleman calls his beloved wife ... The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for the good Moldavians ...
      What is sad: now the situation with the language is better
  12. Maks1995 30 January 2020 09: 10 New
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    Yes, the article is nothing ...
    In fact, it’s similar to “OBS” (what does it seem to be called - did one grandma say?)
  13. rotmistr60 30 January 2020 09: 21 New
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    The fact that those who were given to strengthen did not know English is a command problem. But the fact that the American was amazed that his cover did not speak English naturally. Americans believe that the whole planet is obliged to know English, and bow to native speakers. It is possible that even in joint operations in real combat conditions it may be difficult to manage combined units, you won’t get enough of all translators and duplication from one language to another is a waste of valuable time.
  14. Leonid Har 30 January 2020 09: 24 New
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    It is unlikely that anything has changed in NATO since then.
  15. Podvodnik 30 January 2020 09: 26 New
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    [/ quote] According to the US Marine, it was already in the air that none of the Polish snipers knew English. [quote]

    Do the Americans themselves know at least some other language besides their own (and that is not a fact)?
    Kings of nature, damn it.
    1. dzvero 30 January 2020 16: 01 New
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      They do not even spree in English. The Englishman from the laboratory where I was at that time went to the congress in Chicago. He returned and told that it took him two days to begin to understand them a little. He imitated, but since my English is not literary, he is not able to transmit. Yes, and I understood almost nothing smile
      1. Podvodnik 30 January 2020 16: 23 New
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        I somehow clashed with the Chinese near Nevsky (in St. Petersburg). They asked to explain how to get to Isakievsky. My school program was enough for an explanation. I met an Iranian in the subway, he wanted to get to Peterhof from the Baltic on a minibus (and there was only one). I drove to Avtovo (and there everything to Peterhof). My English was enough to understand him, take with me and show a stop. And if I'm in America, accidentally running through, I ask a four-thread in Russian? (Brighton does not concern) At least a few words does anyone know? Like "hello"? I doubt it.
        1. dzvero 30 January 2020 16: 36 New
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          This "international English" is a hodgepodge of the Esperanto type, I also know how smile Actually, I meant that an educated Englishman in a normal "everyday" conversation with educated Mid-American Americans of the United States had problems (mutual) with understanding. It is no coincidence that Word has dictionaries in English, American and other "English" smile
          My Russian is also not so hot, I can not judge the features of the conversation in different regions of Russia, but I fully admit that such situations can occur at the everyday level in your place too. drinks
    2. L-39NG 30 January 2020 16: 14 New
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      Americans in Spanish can and in Italian, in some areas they can also speak Russian, although this is not modern Russian, in the southern regions of Canada they are also America, they can also speak Ukrainian, and everyone will agree among themselves. Do you yourself know how to speak Russian? I'm wrong.
      1. Podvodnik 30 January 2020 16: 25 New
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        I try without errors. It was painfully a good teacher at school. Sometimes T9 fails. Well, or fingers "curves" in the next button press.
  16. mr.ZinGer 30 January 2020 09: 31 New
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    Yes, I’m Zen Zen, there was just not enough, a very informative site.
  17. Free wind 30 January 2020 09: 55 New
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    The first most prevalent language, Chinese, English second, more in the world of Chinese. Do you speak Chinese? speak soon. English, well, as if an interstate language. I shouldn’t have studied in the army, Ukrainian, Moldavian, Yakut, Tajik, Uzbek, German, Kalmyk, Kazakh or what?
  18. Pavel57 30 January 2020 10: 26 New
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    And if the snipers were women?
  19. Krasnoyarsk 30 January 2020 10: 49 New
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    = According to the American Marine, it was already revealed in the air that not one of the Polish snipers knew English. =
    The Poles also complained that none of the mattresses spoke Polish.
    So, - one - one.
  20. puskarinkis 30 January 2020 12: 00 New
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    The fact that someone does not speak English makes Americans distrust, and often even suspect! )))
  21. Free wind 30 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    The Poles opened fire on any targets ........ strange to be honest.
  22. smaug78 30 January 2020 12: 48 New
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    As always . Yes, maybe invented by propagandists of topwar ..
  23. Wolf 30 January 2020 13: 33 New
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    I assure you that the Poles profesional, and even better than the United States. Poles, like all the SLAVES fought throughout their history. They know what they should do and will do much better than from the USA! They do not need communication, they cover the sniper.
  24. Blue fox 30 January 2020 14: 05 New
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    Apparently, the commander of this commando is so-so. You can set a task to observe the terrain and destroy any threatening target with a few hand gestures without even opening your mouth. The Poles have nothing to do with it.
  25. NordUral 30 January 2020 14: 17 New
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    Thank the marine, their commanders, debly-lov.
  26. Lieutenant Ivolgin 30 January 2020 15: 14 New
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    Marine advice: buy a Polish phrasebook. It was probably news to him that there were other languages ​​in the world, not just English
  27. L-39NG 30 January 2020 16: 20 New
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    What about the topic? What year does he remember? Since then ... and Lavrov, when he does not smoke, speaks English when not for the camera, but for the people. And Vova is in German to show himself educated. And who of you will boast of what? People.
  28. Gopstop 30 January 2020 17: 03 New
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    to the point that they open fire on any targets that are dangerous to us.

    As I understand it, the Poles drenched everything that moves .. Even in peace.
    This is the essence of the article. In the Donbass, they also "had fun", but then our (anti-sniper) snapped them a little ...
    There was such an infa vague I remember ..
  29. DNkroz 30 January 2020 17: 57 New
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    Due to the language barrier between the American and Polish military and the inability to give an order “to open fire on any targets,” there were much fewer casualties in this operation than usual among the civilian population. Harmer authorities expressed their displeasure. Oh, these Poles. This is sarcasm, if that.
  30. golem 30 January 2020 21: 02 New
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    seventeen year old sensation ;-)
  31. IL-64 30 January 2020 23: 31 New
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    Great article. What is she talking about?
  32. Alex24 31 January 2020 04: 37 New
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    Is that what? About ignorance by English pshkami?
    1. Prisoner 31 January 2020 10: 11 New
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      About the Americans' lack of knowledge of Polish. laughing
  33. Prisoner 31 January 2020 10: 10 New
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    Wild people are these Americans. In Polish, no boom boom. Probably have suffered Pshek, wondering whether these American guys can be trusted. laughing
  34. Yury Siritsky 31 January 2020 12: 04 New
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    Well and on fig this nonsense is presented to us.
  35. Andrzej k 31 January 2020 21: 18 New
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    It was unlikely that at that time the GROM operators did not completely know English.

    On the other hand, they definitely knew the Russian language and, undoubtedly, would have understood each other with the Russians :-)

    In addition, another, but would only hit the anti-Polish drum
  36. Sergey49 1 February 2020 14: 09 New
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    Another nonsense. The Poles would surely understand the words fire and stop, and you can show the target with your finger ... But what kind of balm spilled on the tormented souls of Russian patriots :)
  37. lvov_aleksey 1 February 2020 22: 44 New
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    but I understood one of this article. We will understand the Slavs of the Poles, and they are star-striped except English nor boom-boom