US develops new WPS data processing system

The United States intends to soon receive a new missile attack warning system data processing system. The contract for the creation of this system was concluded by the US Air Force (US Air Force) and the American company Raytheon. This was reported by the press service of Raytheon.

According to a report distributed by the Raytheon press service, the new system, called FORGE, will receive data not only from the SBIRS (Space Based Infrared System) ballistic missile early warning system and the OPIR (Next Generation Overhead Persistent) next-generation missile launch warning system Infrared), but also from civilian satellites and sensors, which will also transmit information to the data processing system.

A five-year contract worth $ 197 million was signed with the US Air Force to develop a system for collecting and processing data received by various missile attack warning sensors. The new system is designated FORGE (Future Operationally Resilient Ground Evolution)

- said in a statement.

Raytheon emphasized that the main feature of the new system is the ability to obtain data for further processing from virtually any satellite or sensor.

As follows from the company's message, Raytheon specialists intend to complete the development of the new system within five years, other details are not given.

Comments

[Cowbra]

Raytheon specialists

I will not mention, but in what office did the current US Secretary of Defense work?

[maxim947]

Those. the radar equipment itself will remain the same; only the data collection system will be modernized by adding ready-made sources for obtaining information. 200mln software update - this is if you fuss.)))

[Cowbra]

Love comes and goes, but you always want to eat. They still haven’t accepted the F-35 (the military tests are overwhelmed), but the software has been updated almost a dozen times. And not for free. On not adopted There is even better - the need for updating and its effectiveness - is evaluated purely theoretically and by whom? Reiteon specialists and subordinates of Reiteon specialist)))

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[Adam Khomich]

The F-35 was equipped with a XNUMX Windows, Microsoft stopped updating it. The Pentagon has no money for the top ten, so the "invisibles" in hangars are gathering dust :-)

[voyaka uh]

"did not accept (military trials overwhelmed)" ////
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Americans have two statuses:
1) initial combat readiness
2) full combat readiness.
With the "initial combat readiness" status, vehicles are allowed to enter battle.
Full alert gives permission for mass production.

[Cowbra]

Well, we have already seen how their fully prepared Patriot works. Unfinished then - is it in the sense of the box until you get it?

[Jack O'Neill]

So then all versions of Lightning are adopted.
Later, the F-35C got into service, in that year (2019).
So do not mislead people.
And yes, the software update is not the cheapest thing.

[bk316]

200mln software update - this is if you fuss.

Not just software, infrastructure for collecting data from civilian satellites. May cost more, especially in the USA

[voyaka uh]

In the next 5-10 years, there will be a dense network of civil communications satellites above the Earth. And OneWeb, and SpaceLink, and Iridium and others. Tens of thousands of satellites. If they are "voluntarily-compulsory" supplied with military receivers and transmitters of data, then the transfer to a single center will be rapid.

[rocket757]

Quote: voyaka uh

If they are "voluntarily-compulsorily" supplied with military receivers and transmitters of data, then the transfer to a single center will be rapid.

I’ll add a fly in the ointment ... the data can be transferred, but they still need to be found somewhere, scouted, collected and .... it will be possible to transfer, BUT they still have to be analyzed, it’s necessary to sift!
In short, it's not even tomorrow.

[vvvjak]

Quote: maxim947

adding ready-made sources of information

They will add data on a missile attack from all iPhones in the world and then try to filter out erroneous or "fake" ones. It seems to me that all this system of stability in the world will not add.

Quote: maxim947

200mln software update - this is if you fuss.)))

I think you were even modest

[Guru]

but also from civil satellites and sensors,

What are iPhones? They are modernizing the system for collecting data not only from the military but also from civilian satellites. Synchronizing different systems is a tricky thing. You can fuss, of course, but on the whole, the article suggests specialists in this field.

[vvvjak]

Raytheon emphasized that the main feature of the new system is the ability to obtain data for further processing from virtually any satellite or sensor.

What kind of sensor data they are going to use can you predict? Maybe an iPhone, or maybe a message on Twitter or a photo on Instagram is enough. In our time, nothing has to be surprised at.

[Guru]

Read the post above.

voyaka uh (Alexey) Today, 12: 10
In the next 5-10 years, there will be a dense network of civil communications satellites above the Earth. And OneWeb, and SpaceLink, and Iridium and others. Tens of thousands of satellites. If they are "voluntarily-compulsory" supplied with military receivers and transmitters of data, then the transfer to a single center will be rapid.

Indeed, the situation at the moment goes to this.

[Cowbra]

Guides, guides ... They have already tried to create a single information center that stores absolutely all the data. which can be caught. Internet traffic, chatter on cell phones, wiretap and tede ... Something even happened - the information was accumulated ... But to process it - hell, there is not enough power.
And such crap with target designation (or simply transmission of information) from civilian satellites for specialists "in this area" can only lead to one thought. That this multi-billion dollar crap will fall from a banal DDOS attack. Together with the F-35s, which were "put into service," and military tests were not the first time, they failed.

[Guru]

Internet traffic, chatter on cell phones, wiretap and tede ... Something even happened - the information was accumulated ... And to process it - horseradish, there is not enough power

I agree, but the data from the sensors and the chatter on the phone are different volumes, well, as you understand more clearly Compare the file with the picture and the file with the text.

[Cowbra]

You did not understand. transmission through a civilian network - it means you can catch it programmatically, then a DDOS attack, and the system will lie deaf from the inability to digest the flow of information. A flying F-35 - generally collapse

[rocket757]

Quote: Guru

They are modernizing the system for collecting data not only from the military but also from civilian satellites.

And satellites can provide them with the necessary data? or will they lay such an opportunity in them?
Anyway, this is completely different money!

[Guru]

This is a good question. Laying in the manufacture is specialized sensors, which can be installed only on those satellites to which the Department of State will reach out. For example, the Chinese will install navrutli and we think so too. But non-specialized sensors will be easier, but again, the data will be only indirect.

[rocket757]

Quote: Guru

specialized sensors, which can only be installed on, those satellites to which the Department of State will reach out.

This is relevant. You must make and use your own electronics. The software platform is also only its own. We have been talking about this for a long time .. but what about business ???

[Operator]

Not radar, but infrared - infrared.

[bessmertniy]

The main thing is that this system is not buggy with false alarms. The apocalypse cannot be allowed to happen due to some stupid mistake.

[Guru]

Terminator-skylink and all that? Although the incident with Boeing leads to bad thoughts-FACT

[cniza]

Quote: bessmertniy

The main thing is that this system is not buggy with false alarms. The apocalypse cannot be allowed to happen due to some stupid mistake.

Here, overload can happen in this and someone nervous can press the button.

[gridasov]

It is important to note here that in the entire system of collecting and analyzing data and extracting the necessary information, it is extremely important to move this necessary information in the general info space. At the same time, cloud technologies are linear processes that have fundamental shortcomings, including errors and distortion of processes. Therefore, the entire set of input data obviously needs to be located in a certain mathematical structure, and each code should have its own structural place. Moreover, this should be a structure as inextricable and fractal. And coding is carried out not by linear writing of the code, but by the principles of rotation of the radial structures of the so-called matrix.

[spectr]

5 years is about nothing. A year to develop the initial ideology. Then the second year will go into consultation with the military, who poke them in the nose at the most unfeasible moments and a hybrid variant will develop from what we would like and what is possible.
Then from 1 to 5 years the creation of a basic version (depending on the scale of the project). Then test runs (at least a year). And only after that, the system will begin to grow overgrown with meat.
That is, in 5 years, in the most favorable scenario, a "very raw product" will be obtained.

[Igor Borisov_2]

It is possible to cut off the superstructures from the written off cr URO so "Ticonderoga" and stick them around the world ...

[rocket757]

The United States intends to soon receive a new missile attack warning system data processing system.

But we’ll also see it, according to the results, evaluate it and ... nothing, we also do not stand still.

[cniza]

The new system, called FORGE, will receive data not only from the SBIRS (Space Based Infrared System) ballistic missile early warning system and the OPIR (Next Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared) missile launch warning system, but also from civilian satellites and sensors that will also transmit information to the data processing system.

No matter how it turns out, according to the saying - "seven nannies have a child without an eye" ... soon accidents in space will begin, like on highways.

[Jurkovs]

The main thing is that there should not be jambs in the program. And then they will start the war ahead of time.

[Ros 56]

And they say they steal from us, and ours to the striped ones as to the moon on foot. And you say.

[eklmn]

For the curious:
orig. article here
“Raytheon wins Air Force ground-based missile warning satellite system contract”
https://spacenews.com/raytheon-wins-air-force-contract-for-ground-system-to-process-missile-warning-satellite-data/
“FORGE will replace the technology developed by Lockheed Martin that the Air Force is currently using to control and process data from the satellite constellation of space-based missile attack warning systems based on the space-based infrared system (SBIRS).
“Raytheon said FORGE will become an open platform for processing overhead data from both the SBIRS constellation and future satellites, known as next-generation permanent infrared ports (Next Gen OPIR). The system should also be able to process data from civilian sensors and environmental sensors. ”
“The Air Force wants FORGE to work as a smartphone operating system so that new applications can be developed by government, private sector companies and universities. For example, a civilian agency could develop an application that processes data for detecting forest fires, i that works with the application for warning about a missile attack, but does not interfere with it. ”
“The FORGE contract does not include the ability to control satellites, but focuses only on processing mission data.
Raytheon said the FORGE concept was derived from an existing weather system created for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, called an advanced weather information processing system. NOAA uses the system to process and analyze meteorological data from satellites and ground-based radars. ”

In principle - why not? The satellites are already flying, their sensors are tracking anomalies on the ground, but if it’s a fire, an explosion or a rocket starts, the sensor doesn’t care, it will catch it! It remains to analyze .... I think that the AI ​​will do it quickly.