In Ukraine, they are outraged that their country in Italy was called Little Russia


The Ukrainian Embassy in Italy called offensive the statement of the leading quiz L'Eredita (“Heritage”) Flavio Insinna on the Italian TV channel RAI. The channel’s leadership was informed of the “firm position” of Ukrainian diplomats and the demand “to correct their actions”.


A message about this appeared on the Facebook page of the Ukrainian Embassy in Rome.

During the program, which took place on January 26, program participants had to guess what would happen if we added the word “small” to the word “Russia”. The answer was supposed to be “Ukraine.” When the quiz participant couldn’t answer, Flavio Insinna explained that “Little Russia” or Little Russia is the second name of Ukraine.

This incident angered Ukrainian diplomats so much that it even came to an international scandal.

In a letter sent by the Ukrainian Embassy to the TV channel’s leadership, the meaning of the word “Little Russia” was explained, stating that this word was considered offensive to Ukrainians. For which particular Ukrainians is this historical the word is offensive, could not explain.

In the maidan Ukrainian press, meanwhile, the Italians act was called "arrogant", "incorrect" and "outrageous."

The embassy decided to publish the letter of the television company on Facebook, Ukrainian diplomats explained by the lack of reaction from the RAI television company.

Now it becomes clear why the song "Little Country" by Natasha Koroleva is banned in Ukraine ...
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  1. major147 28 January 2020 16: 36 New
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    Forgot to add the word "great" to the word "Ukraine"? crying
    1. Mavrikiy 28 January 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: major147
      Forgot to add the word "great" to the word "Ukraine"? crying

      Yes, “It’s better, Great Micronesia, which lives on the roof of the world!” (Cartoon)
      1. Shurik70 28 January 2020 18: 37 New
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        Now it becomes clear why the song "Little Country" by Natasha Koroleva is banned in Ukraine

        10 points !!!
        laughing laughing laughing good
        1. Zoldat_A 28 January 2020 19: 26 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          Now it becomes clear why the song "Little Country" by Natasha Koroleva is banned in Ukraine

          10 points !!!
          laughing laughing laughing good

          We stock up on popcorn and continue to laugh. Every day is funnier and funnier.

          The British Foreign Ministry has already been presented ...
          1. Hunter 2 28 January 2020 20: 15 New
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            Greetings Fighter! hi But if the Italians put up a peacemaker on the site, then it’s definitely useful popcorn! laughing
            1. Range 28 January 2020 21: 47 New
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              It would be more correct to call westernization stuporossiya. A small excursion from where the name Little Russia comes from. The three rivers that originate from the Valdai Upland were originally called the Great Ross (Volga), Little Ross (Dnipro) and White Ross (Western Dvina). Hence the names Great Russia, Little Russia and Belarus, and then the names were transformed into already modern names. Only “doubles” in history can be offended by the name.
              1. Shurik70 28 January 2020 22: 32 New
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                Well, blacks are offended in the USA, if they are called a black. Now they are not blacks, but Americans, Afro ...
                And what is worse for Ukrainians?
            2. 4ekist 29 January 2020 10: 55 New
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              The Italians wanted to sneeze on their website and on their .ebills.
          2. major147 28 January 2020 22: 13 New
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            Quote: Zoldat_A
            The British Foreign Ministry has already been presented ...

            1. Zoldat_A 28 January 2020 22: 24 New
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              The Mongols are also guys with humor! good
              And the skakly are funnier and funnier ... I sit more comfortably in my favorite deep armchair and stock up on beer and crackers ...
            2. Range 28 January 2020 23: 55 New
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              Do you propose to call them Afro-Bandera?
        2. Lipchanin 28 January 2020 19: 28 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          10 points !!!

          And from myself 100 laughing
        3. Kuroneko 28 January 2020 21: 41 New
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          Talkov’s song “Small Town” is also prohibited. However, like all the songs of Talkov. They are very ... offensive to Nenka. And it does not matter that Talkov was killed back in the 90s and there were no more songs.

          PS In general, it feels like he was singing not about Russia, but about the future Ukrainian. Here banderlog and rage.
    2. Vend 28 January 2020 16: 40 New
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      Get used to it, it's time to return to the original name and understanding of the world.
      1. NEXUS 28 January 2020 16: 55 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Get used to it, it's time to return to the original name and understanding of the world.

        Well, for the glavnyukov of Ukraine, the historical name of this country is like a sickle in a causal place. If you called Britain, then I’m sure these macaques in the government of Little Russia would already squeal with delight.
        1. St Petrov 28 January 2020 17: 10 New
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          If they called Britain, I’m sure that these macaques in the government of Little Russia would already squeal with delight.


          I already hear this contented grunt and arrogant gaze of the non-brother. Wash the Muscovites. Brittany with us! The British and the Great Ukrainian brothers forever!
      2. reservist 28 January 2020 17: 33 New
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        Little Russia - Russian lands as part of the Commonwealth


        Quote: Wend
        it is time to return to the original name and outlook.

        in the sense - again to the panamas?
        1. Vend 28 January 2020 18: 10 New
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          Quote: reservist
          Little Russia - Russian lands as part of the Commonwealth


          Quote: Wend
          it is time to return to the original name and outlook.

          in the sense - again to the panamas?

          And your story begins from this century laughing
          1. reservist 28 January 2020 18: 56 New
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            why is the story? Only the origin of the name "Little Russia"
            1. Range 28 January 2020 21: 55 New
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              Read my comment above, there is an explanation of where the name Little Russia comes from, and your passage of time is only an instant of this story and it is very belated.
              1. reservist 30 January 2020 10: 43 New
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                and when was the Dnieper called Little Dew and the Volga - Big?
                1. Range 31 January 2020 14: 03 New
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                  Little Dew was never called. Ross and Rosa are different concepts. Ross - means a river. Learn the history of Russia not bourgeois or Sumerian, but real. You will find many interesting things. By the way, Ross is not inclined.
                  1. reservist 3 February 2020 10: 26 New
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                    Instead of answering the question, I read some arguments about declination ...
                2. Range 31 January 2020 14: 22 New
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                  Novo Rossi
                  Vladimir Larchenko

                  We are small Rossy
                  Great Russia
                  Brotherly people
                  East of Ukraine
                  Enemies attacked
                  But we did not give up
                  Steel in defense
                  They took up the guns

                  No one can overpower
                  Our fighting spirit
                  Back from the battle
                  With a victory home
                  Heal wounds
                  Adversity will pass
                  For the glory of victory
                  We will hold a parade

                  Criminal plans
                  Bloody excess
                  Evil will not pass
                  The process will begin
                  Judge by law
                  Shameful Fascism
                  West to the answer
                  Criminal nazism

                  No one can overpower
                  Our fighting spirit
                  Back from the battle
                  With a victory home
                  Heal wounds
                  Adversity will pass
                  For the glory of victory
                  We’ll hold a parade.
            2. Range 31 January 2020 14: 35 New
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              I’ll give you only one reference that I found offhand and if you are interested in this topic, then you yourself will find more detailed information about this. hi
              https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=647558&p=9
              1. reservist 3 February 2020 10: 34 New
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                I read the link
                The fact is that the Volga, Dnieper and Western Dvina rivers, that is, the Velikaya Rus, Malaya Rus and Belaya Rus (that is, all three Russia!) Rivers, originate in one place - remember where? - on the Valdai Hills. The sources of these rivers are not far from each other. Almost in one place. In another way, Valdai is called what? That's right - the Russian Upland!

                not at all Ross ...
      3. major147 28 January 2020 23: 15 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Get used to it, it's time to return to the original name and understanding of the world.

        Oh! The wrong country was called Honduras! request
    3. Vasyan1971 28 January 2020 16: 41 New
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      Quote: major147
      Forgot to add the word "great" to the word "Ukraine"? crying

      Moreover, the "great" with a capital letter!
      1. Lipchanin 28 January 2020 19: 31 New
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        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Moreover, the "great" with a capital letter!

        Yes, what a trifle. All letters are uppercase
    4. machinistvl 28 January 2020 17: 48 New
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      It was necessary to call a new bandera.
      1. Mavrikiy 28 January 2020 19: 17 New
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        (+), I suggest Lower Bandera, or just walk the field.
      2. Lipchanin 28 January 2020 19: 32 New
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        Quote: machinistvl
        It was necessary to call a new bandera.

        Well, or old Makhnovshchina laughing
    5. antivirus 28 January 2020 20: 40 New
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      Clown - Bandera dog
      1. major147 28 January 2020 21: 40 New
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        Quote: antivirus
        Clown - Bandera dog

        I’ll ask you not to insult the dogs!
        In Cherkashchina there is a unique monument to 150 border dogs who “torn” the Nazi regiment in hand-to-hand combat

        https://topwar.ru/30068-edinstvennyy-v-mire-rukopashnyy-boy-lyudey-i-sobak-s-fashistami.html
    6. Paul Siebert 28 January 2020 21: 37 New
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      Here again Tyagnibok puzzled ... The leader of the Freedom party.
      Russia, says, should transfer to Ukraine a part of the diamond fund and almost the entire gold fund ...
      For the occupation in the last century, for three famines (Shpak recalls: "Suede jacket. Three ..."), for collectivization and dispossession.
      And he won’t be anything for it. Because there is a certificate from the madhouse ...
      The non-brothers are afraid to fall behind the Poles. They are about to begin to pay reparations to Russia, so as not to be late to get their own.
      Jackal Bandera touches ...
      1. major147 28 January 2020 23: 16 New
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        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Here again Tyagnibok puzzled ... The leader of the Freedom party.
        Russia, says, should transfer to Ukraine a part of the diamond fund and almost the entire gold fund ...

        What is the problem !? Let it come, take it! lol
    7. 4ekist 29 January 2020 10: 52 New
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      Sala the Great Ukrain!
  2. tihonmarine 28 January 2020 16: 38 New
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    In a letter sent by the Ukrainian Embassy to the TV channel’s leadership, the meaning of the word “Little Russia” was explained, stating that this word was considered offensive to Ukrainians.
    Since 1654 they were Little Russians and did not take offense, and suddenly our gelding hit the bumps.
    1. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 16: 47 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      In a letter sent by the Ukrainian Embassy to the TV channel’s leadership, the meaning of the word “Little Russia” was explained, stating that this word was considered offensive to Ukrainians.
      Since 1654 they were Little Russians and did not take offense, and suddenly our gelding hit the bumps.

      Because they were Little Russia in the past, and now "Nedorossiya" or "Nedoukraina".
      1. tihonmarine 28 January 2020 17: 45 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        "Undercity"

        No, Little Russia.
        1. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 17: 48 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          "Undercity"

          No, Little Russia.

          Little Russia at the moment is LDNR, and what is west of them is, for the time being, "Unknowing." When the huntars are driven into the bunkers and the Natsics are strangled, then this entire territory has a chance to become a great and proud Little Russia.
          1. tihonmarine 28 January 2020 19: 30 New
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            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Little Russia at the moment is LDNR, and what is west of them is, for the time being, "Unknowing."

            Let our users say this, I'm not from Ukraine.
            1. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 19: 38 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Little Russia at the moment is LDNR, and what is west of them is, for the time being, "Unknowing."

              Let our users talk about it, I am not from Ukraine.

              I know. You kind of will be from the Baltic winked
              1. tihonmarine 28 January 2020 21: 04 New
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                Quote: Nyrobsky
                I know. You kind of will be from the Baltic

                Well, yes.
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      2. Sanichsan 28 January 2020 17: 47 New
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        maybe the outskirts?
        1. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 17: 52 New
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          Quote: SanichSan
          maybe the outskirts?

          San Sanych, even if it’s the "outskirts", then you need to use it with the prefix "under", because as a geopolitical quantity, it itself does not determine anything, does not affect anything and is under external control.
    2. orionvitt 28 January 2020 19: 01 New
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      Interestingly, the French will be offended if they are called the Gauls, and France Gaul? I think no. True, it was a long time ago, but for the French it is not offensive. Because normal.
      1. Uncle lee 29 January 2020 03: 44 New
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        France has a symbol - Gallic rooster
    3. Zoldat_A 28 January 2020 19: 31 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      suddenly our gelding bumped over.

      It is MERINA. It seems like a horse - but not quite ...
      So Ukraine today is not finished ...
      1. tihonmarine 28 January 2020 19: 55 New
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        Quote: Zoldat_A
        It is MERINA. It seems like a horse - but not quite ..

        What a horse, what a gelding, one and the same. But not a stallion!
        1. major147 28 January 2020 21: 47 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          It is MERINA. It seems like a horse - but not quite ..

          What a horse, what a gelding, one and the same. But not a stallion!

          More like a cold nag!
  3. Cutter 28 January 2020 16: 38 New
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    In a letter sent by the Ukrainian Embassy to the TV channel’s leadership, the meaning of the word “Little Russia” was explained, stating that this word was considered offensive to Ukrainians.

    What is insulting, because the "little Russia" ????? Some kind of painful pride bordering on schizophrenia ...
    1. major147 28 January 2020 16: 45 New
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      Quote: Cutter
      What is insulting, because the "little Russia" ????? Some kind of painful pride bordering on schizophrenia ...

      The inferiority complex is called!
      1. St Petrov 28 January 2020 17: 13 New
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        The inferiority complex is called!

        the chromosome of guidness does not let you relax
        And it’s not just that under Zhitomir they found Buddha’s embroidery, it means something.
        If they had found near Noginsk, I wouldn’t even have written great cities, feeling my involvement in the Divine and superiority over the dummy kaganate
        1. major147 28 January 2020 21: 28 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          And it’s not just that under Zhitomir they found Buddha’s embroidery, it means something.

          In vain you laugh, everything is very serious!
      2. Lipchanin 28 January 2020 19: 34 New
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        Quote: major147
        The inferiority complex is called!

        And the smaller the subject, the higher the complex
    2. Dur_mod 28 January 2020 18: 49 New
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      I’ll try to explain, Little Russia is insulting not from the fact that it’s a small Russia, but from the very word -maloross — like a small one, an undershot, a younger, not grown, inferior country. This is how to recognize that Russia went from the Vikings and only thanks to them gained statehood, such as before there was a bunch of pagan tribes that were always at war with each other. В Ukraine doesn’t matter where- on Donbass, Carpathians, Polesie, Odessa, the word Little Russia, Little Russia everywhere is insulting, it is also connected with the tsarist times, when Ukrainians were denied the right to their own nation, their own language and created the conditions for development only in Russian, for good reason T.G. . Shevchenko, most of the works in surzhik or in Russian. I’m never a nationalist, but Little Russia, Little Russia are jarring at me, I think even in the Donbass you will not find understanding among people with these terms who are persistently trying to reanimate the Russians.
      Ps at some stage in the history of these words were used, but now in Ukraine, even in Soviet times, the people of the word Little Russia have always been associated with imperial oppression among the people.
      1. mikstepanenko 28 January 2020 19: 36 New
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        it is not in vain that T.G.Shevchenko has the majority of works in surzhik or in Russian.
        At the time of Shevchenko, neither surzhik nor the Ukrainian language were invented. Therefore, he wrote in Russian, and in "his native Little Russian dialect" (his personal words) only part of the verses. The word "adverb" is equivalent to the modern "dialect".
        In tsarist times, the Ukrainian nation was not denied the right to either a nation or a language. Because neither one nor the other was not there then. The Ukrainian nation is a product of the special services of Austria-Hungary, and the word Ukrainian until the First World War did not mean nationality but a political orientation. Extremely anti-Russian. Almost all Ukrainians were then Poles. The Ukrainian language is formed from the Poltava dialect with the inclusion of a huge number of polonisms, and was incomprehensible even to educated people. He didn’t even have spelling rules, they used the “rule” as I hear and write. In a well-known example, it was equally correct to write and also ischo. Up to one hundred thousand people (Rusyns) were killed at the beginning of the WWII at the beginning of the WWI at the beginning of the WWI in the Tannerhof concentration camp alone for refusing to be called Ukrainians. It’s not for nothing that the “great Ukrainian writer” Ivan Franko wrote in his personal diary “the mene sogodni shuddered (insulted), they called the mene Ukrainian. Ale know all the Russians.” And the Ukrainian language was introduced into everyday life under Stalin. Without passing exams in the Ukrainian language (and no one knew it, at first the courses), they were not allowed to any state or port posts.
        1. AU Ivanov. 28 January 2020 21: 32 New
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          I’ll tell you a secret: T. G. Shevchenko wrote his personal diaries in Russian. And so I thought in Russian.
      2. major147 28 January 2020 21: 33 New
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        Quote: Dur_mod
        when Ukrainians were denied the right to own a nation,

    3. PSih2097 28 January 2020 20: 43 New
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      Quote: Cutter
      What is insulting, because the "little Russia" ????? Some kind of painful pride bordering on schizophrenia ...

      Well, not small, but "small" (emphasis on taste) ... laughing
  4. cniza 28 January 2020 16: 39 New
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    When the quiz participant could not answer, Flavio Insinna explained that “Little Russia” or Little Russia is the second name of Ukraine.


    And why be indignant, it was-Little Russia.
  5. Vasyan1971 28 January 2020 16: 40 New
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    In Ukraine, they are outraged that their country in Italy was called Little Russia

    Well, what if, from behind the hillock, it is seen that way, despite all the independent attempts.
  6. Oden280 28 January 2020 16: 40 New
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    Clinical stupid people (the exact definition of censorship banned). This is their historical name. Although they would have read the title of the Russian emperor, or do they not know the beeches?
  7. knn54 28 January 2020 16: 40 New
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    Gogol, Shevchenko considered themselves Little Russians. "These" are truly Ukrainians.
    Thanks to the Italian TV channel for not saying anything, not disgracing the so-called diplomats for not knowing their own history.
  8. Cowbra 28 January 2020 16: 44 New
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    Correctly outraged. The name is outdated. Modern - Wild Field
    1. Gardamir 28 January 2020 17: 30 New
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      By the way, not everyone knows that the third part of modern Ukraine is the land of the Wild Field, where Russia built cities from scratch and mastered.
      1. Cowbra 28 January 2020 18: 00 New
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        More. As far back as the 17th century on pot cards, everything east of the Bila Tserkva was listed as uninhabited land) This is half, not less
        1. Dur_mod 28 January 2020 19: 15 New
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          All that was east of the White Church at one time was subordinate to the Turks and Crimean Tatars of their vassals. These are the consequences Ruin period of Ukrainian history, when our land was torn to pieces by both our own and others. In Russia, a similar period was called Troubles.
      2. orionvitt 28 January 2020 18: 55 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        these are the lands of the Wild Field, where Russia from scratch built cities and mastered.

        Partly won back from the Turks. Weeping with blood.
    2. mikstepanenko 28 January 2020 19: 39 New
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      Correctly outraged. The name is outdated. Modern - Wild Field
      Just "wild field" is the same historical name as Little Russia. Only these are different territories of modern Ukraine. Wild field - the territory later received the name Novorossia. But the wild field began to be populated only after Russia conquered Crimea.
  9. prior 28 January 2020 16: 45 New
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    It turned out that Italians know real Ukrainian history better than Ukrainians themselves.
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    They were indignant, Excited Oh Ja! Ja! Damaging and only, fie on them! Spit and forget, Ukraine mother to win!
  11. Grandfather Crimea 28 January 2020 16: 51 New
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    Here are those on))))) again the zrada is radiating, grief indescribable for the gentle souls of Natsik and false patriots.
  12. serg. 75 28 January 2020 16: 51 New
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    "Nedorossiya" they are already far from Little Russia.
  13. Pacifist 28 January 2020 16: 55 New
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    Correctly! I am also outraged! Ukraine, or rather Ukraine is a designation of the zone of the border territories of the state, and not the administrative territory, as part of the state, and Little Russia is just the designation of the administrative territory. So I propose also publishing a tweet of some sort ... and in the 1897 census, no Ukrainians, which is just an analogue of the word provincial, were not mentioned, but the Little Russians were. bully
    1. Dur_mod 28 January 2020 19: 19 New
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      Of course, the Little Russians were when, by order of the tsar, it was ordered only to be called so, but they did not become less Ukrainians from this. And why it is popularly these words did not take root, few probably thought of this.
      1. Konstantin Shevchenko 28 January 2020 20: 12 New
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        In which region did they call themselves Ukrainians before the decree of the tsar?
    2. mikstepanenko 28 January 2020 19: 42 New
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      and in the census of 1897 no Ukrainians,
      There were then Ukrainians, only this word denoted a political orientation (extremely anti-Russian), and almost all Ukrainians were then Poles.
      1. Hypatius 28 January 2020 21: 08 New
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        Emnip, in 186? G of the first self-proclaimed 12 pieces of Ukrainians, mostly from Polish Jews (10 pieces?), Were exiled from Kiev near Vorkuta. Remained only malorosy. laughing . Such here they are, political repressions of the tsarist regime.
  14. AU Ivanov. 28 January 2020 17: 16 New
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    Ukraine:
    In Russia until the XNUMXth century, the so-called military borderlands and lands located on the border with dangerous neighbors were called so. There was also “Oka Ukraine”, “Pskov Ukraine”, “Siberian Ukraine”
    1. Konstantin Shevchenko 28 January 2020 18: 01 New
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      I do not quite agree. The edge of the Polish word means earth. Familiar with the question "from which edge?" This refers to the native land. In VO there was an article that the name of the outskirts appeared in Polish maps. It was the Poles in the 17th century who began to promote the idea that Ukrainians live on the territory of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth of modern Ukraine.
      1. Hypatius 28 January 2020 20: 52 New
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        Still extreme - the country, the state. U-extreme, as they put emphasis, it turns out a Polish colony, a chapel. Most likely, this is the origin of the term Ukraine,
        and not from the Russian outskirts-Ukraine. And the idea, most likely, was that it was not the people who lived there, but the lackeys (read “o” as “yat”). Boy is the boy? laughing
      2. mikstepanenko 29 January 2020 11: 17 New
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        I do not quite agree. The edge of the Polish word means earth.

        The land is not Polish but Russian, even Old Russian. In the Vedas (and they are thousands of years old, then there were no Poles in the project) there are "people gathered from all over the world and Ukraine."
        1. Konstantin Shevchenko 29 January 2020 14: 00 New
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          What does this cancel? In Poland there is no word land (land)? In the Russian modern language, "land" has a different concept. In Russia, instead of the Polish "outskirts", there were their own designations "prison", "settlement". Personally, my ancestors did not live in any land, but in a settlement on the territory of modern Russia. Therefore, maps in Latin are not always true. Logs didn’t go anywhere and lived 1000 years ago. The language is similar and many words have been preserved in Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia, which have become obsolete in Russia and have lost their original meaning due to GOST Lunacharsky rules. Vedas are found in the territories of the Slavs. A large number in the territory of modern Ukraine.
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            What does this cancel? In Poland there is no word land (land)? In the Russian modern language, "land" has a different concept. In Russia, instead of the Polish "outskirts", there were their own designations "prison", "settlement".

            Sloboda is a settlement outside the city wall. Ostrog prison place of criminals. These words have no relation to the designation of state suburbs. In modern Russian, the word edge has its original meaning - Altai Territory, Krasnoyarsk Territory, Krasnodar Territory. This is a STATE formation, above the region, as it has an autonomous region in its composition. In the Polish language, the word land is for the simple reason that the Polish language (like all European, not only Slavic) came from Old Russian, now known as Sanskrit. This is not a dead language, Sanskrit is slightly spoiled (according to professional Sanskritologists) and is now spoken in the north of the European part of Russia. And the outskirts in Russia were called Ukrainians, as an example a song was recorded in the 18th century "In Siberia in Ukraine, in the Daurian side." Dauria, if you do not know, this is Transbaikalia.
            As for firewood (logs), I did not understand what the firewood was for and how they "lived".
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              Ostrog is a fortified strong point. Sloboda, a settlement of serf bureaucratic peasants who are forbidden to leave the territory with a duty to serve (more often they recruited into hussar regiments). Sloboda had its own buns, its economy and other liberties.
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                Ostrog is a fortified strong point. Sloboda - a settlement of serf bureaucratic peasants

                I can agree with the interpretation of the word prison, but not with the settlement. All cities were surrounded by settlements, and this was long before the peasants became serfs. Sloboda is a settlement of artisans near the city. They were called that - a blacksmithing settlement, a pottery settlement ... Later there was even a streletskaya settlement, and the archers could not have been serfs.
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                  Do you understand the original meaning of "serf"? Attached, at the fortress. A huge territory and a lot of resources, people could scatter. So that this was not led by serfdom, later especially under the Romanovs, serfdom was turned into slavery. Sloboda was a border theory, where there were tax privileges, but it was necessary to protect the land. A good example was Slobozhanshchina on the site of the modern Kharkov, Voronezh, Borisoglebsk regions. Slobozhanschina was originally settled by the Great Russians, they were also state serfs (without landlords), or they called Slobozhansky Cossacks. Had a military success. In 1765, Slobozhanshchina became Sloboda (U, O) Krajina. Formed four Cossack regiments. It was they who were called the Ukrainian Cossacks, the local Zaporozhye. After the defeat of the Crimean Tatars, Sloboda was disbanded and buns were removed, renamed to Kharkov province. It was in Kharkov that clandestine ukronophiles appeared (they missed the goodies) and there they published the newspaper "Ukrainian Herald" from the beginning of the 19th century. The story is simple and boring, but they will come up with a way that Gogol is resting. As you can see, Slobozhanshchina formed on the wasteland later cities appeared including Kharkov and was a border stronghold. Do not read Polish maps :) in the morning with their outskirts.
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                    It was they who were called the Ukrainian Cossacks, the local Zaporozhye.
                    How can you confuse a bunch of Ukrainian Cossacks (which did not exist at all), registered Cossacks, and grassroots (which were the Cossacks). Actually, during the negotiations between Khmelnitsky and the tsar (and later) in official documents there were no words either a Ukrainian (he had not yet been invented) or a Cossack. They were then called Cherkasy. Ukrainophiles really appeared in Kharkov, but they had nothing to do with the "goodies". Then, due to government oversight, a large Polish diaspora formed in Kharkov, and the lords dreamed of a new Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. All the first Ukrainians were Poles.
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                      1765 what year Khmelnitsky? Until 1765, the right Ukrainians were not so the outskirts between Russia and the Commonwealth. Ukrainian Sloboda was formed twice since 1765 and for a total of 54 years, and that was the province of RI. Ukraine has not met more legal names. It was during this period that the regiments could be called Ukrainian (not officially). Who and why renamed Slobozhanshchina to Ukrainian Sloboda, did not study so deeply. Ukraine is clearly of Polish origin, at first not even successful, the Austrians picked up the propaganda of Ukrainization later. Now Russia is reaping their fruits and all the nonsense coming from there.
                      1. mikstepanenko 30 January 2020 13: 10 New
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                        Sloboda Ukrainian

                        Then the word ukraine (just like that, both short and stress) in the Russian language had a clear meaning OKRAINE, and capital letters have not yet been invented. And people who lived on the outlying lands and defended these lands were given privileges and called Cossacks. The Cossacks were Don, Kuban, Ural, Siberian .... They had tax privileges and an obligation to protect borders. They lived in the Ukrainians and protected these outskirts of the country. So any of these Cossacks, according to the laws of derivation at that time, were Ukrainian. This was the meaning of the Cossacks - the Ukrainian (border) troops.
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                        Prove that the Don, Terekov, Yamsky, Zaporozhye lived in the outskirts or Ukrainians. Otherwise, we get RI is Ukraine))). My ancestors lived on the Russian border in a settlement and not in any outskirts. Peter the first already led the province, and before Peter there were the Ostrogs and Sloboda. And what the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth has there is already their internal affairs.
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                        My ancestors lived on the Russian border in a settlement and not in any outskirts.

                        You contradict yourself Border and is the outskirts, the outskirts of the state, or as they said then Ukraine. This concept is not administrative, and especially not state (like Ukraine), but geographical.
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    It was the Poles in the 17th century who began to promote the idea that in the part of the Commonwealth of modern Ukraine, Ukrainians live

    The origin of the word Ukrainian was unearthed by the ideologist of Ukrainian nationalism Grushevsky. And even published, but only in one book, before that he did not like it. Then Ukrainians were called mercenaries from the outlying lands of Poland in the service of the Polish king.
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      True marginal lands of Poland but not Russia. Poles on their maps can mark the outskirts as they understand in their own way, even the outskirts of the dogs. Therefore, I write that foreign cards in the Latin alphabet is not the ultimate truth.
      1. mikstepanenko 30 January 2020 13: 22 New
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        Therefore, I write that foreign cards in the Latin alphabet is not the ultimate truth.

        I could not insert pictures (cards). These cards are not Polish "Wishlist", they are maps of Europe and Asia of the past millennium. They have a single state in place of the Russian Empire, which includes not only Ukraine and Poland, but also lands to the west.
  • mikstepanenko 28 January 2020 19: 43 New
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    Not Ukraine but Ukraine
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    clarified the meaning of the word "Little Russia", saying that this word is considered offensive to Ukrainians

    They are strange in Ukraine.
    Here we take me. I am Ukrainian by father, Russian by mother. But Little Russia, as a Ukrainian, does not offend me. As a Ukrainian, I am offended by the power of Ukraine with my actions, as well as without actions against Bandera, ukronationalism, my attitude to the Donbass and to rewriting history.
    1. Dur_mod 28 January 2020 19: 25 New
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      It’s interesting and by whom do you identify yourself — Russian, Ukrainian, or Little Russia? Would you be able to say in Russia or in Ukraine or in the world - yes, I am a Little Russian, from Little Russia? You yourself are not funny, the same thing is not funny for me either, apart from Ukrainians, I have Jews, Poles, but I am proud that I am Ukrainian, from Ukraine and the words “Little Russian and Little Russia” cause me to be interested in a person who uses them - with which moon he fell and what kind of cockroaches in his head?
      1. solzh 28 January 2020 19: 58 New
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        I wonder who you identify with.

        Eastern Slav.
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        Would you be able to say in Russia or in Ukraine or in the world - yes, I am a Little Russian, from Little Russia?

        Why not? Moreover, this is not a curse, but the historical name of the region.
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        but I am proud that I am Ukrainian, from Ukraine

        Do it right.
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        what moon did he fall from and what kind of cockroaches did he have in his head?

        But now I do not understand ... request
        You want to tell me that I am not the right Ukrainian? Or that I'm not Ukrainian at all?
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          You want to tell me that I am not the right Ukrainian? Or that I'm not Ukrainian at all?

          Sergey, he provokes you. Do not talk to him. Well him.
        2. Dur_mod 28 January 2020 23: 25 New
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          You yourself answered your question - an Eastern Slav, a man without a clan and tribe.
          1. solzh 29 January 2020 00: 16 New
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            Eastern Slav, man without clan and tribe

            laughing laughing laughing
            Thank you not a Slavic person.
            1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 09: 14 New
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              There is no reason for the white humanoid from the Eastern Slavs, and where do you come from? Are there many of these on planet Earth?
              1. solzh 29 January 2020 10: 42 New
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                Many, all Slavs except people like you.
      2. mikstepanenko 29 January 2020 11: 30 New
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        It’s interesting and by whom do you identify yourself — Russian, Ukrainian, or Little Russia?

        My father is Ukrainian, my mother is Russian. When they issued passports, in the Union, the older brother was written Russian and I was Ukrainian. Neither me nor his parents were asked. And who do I consider myself? There are ONE people, throughout their historical territory, which coincides (except for Central Asia) with the territory of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. There are regional differences, but they are even smaller than in Italy or France. Or in Germany. In these countries, the differences in dialects are such that residents of different regions do not always understand each other. But this does not prevent them from considering themselves to be one nation, speaking the same language. Both the Saxon and the Bavarian are Germans, although they misunderstand each other. And in the Russian Federation, any person will freely understand both the Ukrainian and the Belarusian. These are NOT individual nationalities, but only regional differences. With the same reason we can talk about nationalities Ural, Siberian, Pomor, Volzhan ... They have their own dialects, which, if desired, can be declared languages.
        1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 12: 20 New
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          Only Ukrainians do not agree to consider themselves Little Russians in the Little Russian Governorate of Russia now does it work for you? That’s the problem of Russia and Russians, they don’t understand the simple and obvious things that the very word Little Russia and Little Russia sound offensively in Ukraine! Anderstend, Fershteen, Rozumish, understand?
          They begin to prove to themselves and to convince themselves about the history of these terms, people live in the present, you can’t build anything good on this, you won’t have any normal relations, you won’t go anywhere in your old memory.
          But you need to start with yourself, in Little Russia, you cannot build normal relations with present-day Ukraine, I hope this has come to someone.
  • rocket757 28 January 2020 17: 51 New
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    They would be glad that they are still remembered, even so.
  • Victor March 47 28 January 2020 18: 28 New
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    We are great, we are a source of knowledge and strength. Evidence? And here it is!
  • orionvitt 28 January 2020 18: 52 New
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    For which particular Ukrainians this historical word is offensive, could not explain
    For those of the "small".
    In the maidan Ukrainian press, meanwhile, the Italians act was called "arrogant", "incorrect" and "outrageous."
    Even Italians know history and geography better than the indigenous people of today's Ukraine.
  • LeonidL 28 January 2020 18: 55 New
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    Screams, squeals, drooling, screaming .... this is the new diplomacy of Absurdistan under the leadership of Prezik Zelensky.
  • Prisoner 28 January 2020 19: 52 New
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    And why be offended? Ukraine, it is Little Russia + a piece of Western women.
    1. orionvitt 29 January 2020 06: 56 New
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      Ukraine, it is Little Russia + a piece of Western women.

      Wrong. Ukraine, this is Western women. And Little Russia, to Ukraine mistakenly dragged. For which we get a complete mess and war.
      1. Prisoner 29 January 2020 15: 40 New
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        Wait! Ukraine, the whole and the whole of Little Russia, plus rotten in the form of Western women!
  • Lord of the Sith 28 January 2020 20: 11 New
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    What are the Sumerians cheap psycho complexes, right according to Freud, rage when they hear the "small" laughing
    1. Kuzmitsky 28 January 2020 21: 03 New
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      Not only is it small, so is Russia. Well, how can you endure this !? :)
  • ANB
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    In Ukraine

    On the Ukraine.
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      The professors sat for ten years, argued, sputtered, decided, solved. Decided correctly and so and so. And reconciled)
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      Quote: ANB
      Quote: Dur_mod
      In Ukraine

      On the Ukraine.

  • ANB
    ANB 28 January 2020 20: 29 New
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    it is not in vain that T.G.Shevchenko has the majority of works in surzhik or in Russian.

    So he wrote in his native language. And it was these verses that were taught.
    Ukrainians themselves hardly understand the current “mov”. New Esperanto. In the 80s, I calmly read books in Ukrainian. Now nothing is clear at all.
    Neither the president nor the deputies speak a “power move”.
    Why are people tormented?
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      Why are people tormented?

      And what would not be like the "Muscovites"!
  • faterdom 28 January 2020 20: 29 New
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    So the name "Ukraine" will soon be banned, which is in the logic of events. Somehow they will call “Middle”, or “Upground”. While they were brandishing Russia, supposedly, Muscovy stole this name from them (while they, like, were sleeping) ...
  • Tuzik 28 January 2020 20: 57 New
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    Chu, she would call them fascists that and u
  • Baloo 28 January 2020 21: 11 New
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    A country run by offended foolish psychiatric patients. What is the president, so is the electorate
  • Victor March 47 28 January 2020 21: 39 New
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    Get used to it, it's time to return to the original name and understanding of the world.

    Well, for the glavnyukov of Ukraine, the historical name of this country is like a sickle in a causal place. If you called Britain, then I’m sure these macaques in the government of Little Russia would already squeal with delight.

    And without a causal place it is impossible. How to knock on the piano after retirement?
  • Victor March 47 28 January 2020 21: 41 New
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    A country run by offended foolish psychiatric patients. What is the president, so is the electorate

    If the president knocks a member on the keys of the piano, and offers himself as a debt payment, then what prestige of the country can we talk about?
  • Uncle Izya 28 January 2020 22: 14 New
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    It’s even more disgusting that padluck Zelensky played up to the Psheks saying that the USSR unleashed a war
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    Well, yes, after
    Embassy of Ukraine in Italy
    indignantly
    brought the "firm position" of Ukrainian diplomats and the requirement to "adjust their actions"
    Leading quiz L'Eredita (Heritage) Flavio Insinna, on the Italian TV channel RAI, really became interested, where is Ukraine located on the world map? what
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    - "Little Russia" or Little Russia is the second name of Ukraine "- you can’t rewrite history !!! You won’t become a great boltology ..
    1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 09: 22 New
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      Will you be pleased to hear how Russia will be called Muscovy in Ukraine? But the matter goes to this. Muscovy, Muscovites is another name for Russia, on the maps of the Middle Ages it is the official name. You can’t rewrite history ...
      1. mikstepanenko 29 January 2020 11: 54 New
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        Will you be pleased to hear how Russia will be called Muscovy in Ukraine?

        Muscovy is the name of only the Moscow principality of the period of feudal fragmentation. Have you heard anything about the "gathering of Russian lands"? Then learn the story. Look for one title of the Russian emperor, listing "what lands the sovereign" on the sheet. And you can see real historical maps.
        1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 12: 08 New
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          We are not talking about history, but about how they call my country, whatever you suggest to yourself about Little Russia, no matter how you justify it for yourself, I will not tire of repeating, Little Russia is a word rudiment that died out along with mammoths, which is used only inside Muscovy and Muscovites, if you are again trying to introduce it into everyday life, then what are you offended by Muscovy, in Europe Russia is even worse called humble - Russia in Latvian is called Kreevija (Krievija, from the word Krivichi), aren't you Krivichi?
          1. mikstepanenko 29 January 2020 12: 23 New
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            Krivichi lived next to Zhmudins (modern Latvians), which is why they called it that. And for the adjacent areas, the historical area of ​​Krivichy, there is nothing offensive in this. But for the whole of Russia it’s wrong. Similarly, Little Russia is a small part of sovr. Ukraine. And Novorossia (the former wild field) is a completely different matter. There is also Slobozhanshchina, there is the Don Army area. These three parts were already attached to Ukraine by Stalin without any reason. And in fact, Ukraine is considered to be in the Western world only that west of Zbruch, Muscovites live east (despite the fact that they even forgot the origin of this word).
            And why are you offended by the word Little Russians, which was in use a hundred years ago. And at the same time you pull out the word Muscovites, which have ceased to be used for five hundred years?
            1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 12: 56 New
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              How skillfully you divide my country into Little Russia, Slobozhanshchina, New Russia, etc. Modern Ukraine, it is one in the West and in the Donbass and in Odessa. In Ukraine, these terms were used by the people before the revolution, and now it is one people who speaks Ukrainian, Russian and their mixture / surzhik in the common people. The fact that our Natsiks are trying to impose only the Ukrainian mov as the main one, causes rejection not only in the south-east of Ukraine but also among my friends and I, I believe that even films in a pure literary mov look fake, it is not so clean. And Ukrainian nationalists are to blame for the collapse of the country during the Maidan, Crimea and Donbass - this is a direct intervention of Russia, I think Yanek would have told a lot of interesting things about the role of Russia in the Maidan. But the Ukrainians who were unable to prevent and allowed the collapse of the country were to blame.
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                And Ukrainian nationalists are to blame for the collapse of the country during the Maidan

                At least one smart statement. It is the collapse and precisely because of the Maidan. Perfect by nationalists under the leadership and with the money of foreign intelligence services. USA, Germany, Poland, a little Turkey. But the thing is ALREADY done, the broken pot cannot be glued together. In the Crimea, back in the summer of 13, before all the Maidans (he was not on vacation but at a wedding), the locals openly spoke - we have been under Ukrainian occupation for twenty years. And took the first opportunity to leave. Donbass will never forgive the Ukrainian authorities for shelling, bombing, and killing. In Ukraine there are cemeteries of the “warriors of light” killed in the ATO (or rather in the civil war). But this is the military, they came there with weapons in their hands and shot. And in Donetsk there is a cemetery of CHILDREN killed by these "warriors of the world." The people of Ukraine are NOT one people, the whole history of the "independence" of the East and West ALWAYS voted in the exact opposite. And as a result of the Maidan, blood was added, and at least several generations will not forget this. In the USA, after the civil war of 1860, another century was divided into the South and the North.
                There was simply no direct Russian intervention on the Maidan; there was direct US intervention only. By their own admission (Victoria Nuland) they spent five billion dollars on this Maidan. The target was Crimea, an American military base in Crimea. There was ALREADY an American squadron in the Black Sea (it turned out to be by chance), and it went to the Crimea. Therefore, the events there developed so rapidly. Russia could not afford missiles with nuclear charges with a flight time of minutes in minutes, this is the reason for Crimea. And the reason for the Donbass is the Ukrainian Nazis, THEY started a civil war, then on YouTube there were a lot of published videos from phones.
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                  Wow, what set of stamps formally seems to converge, but the devil is in the details, namely:
                  Perfect by nationalists under the leadership and with the money of foreign intelligence services. USA, Germany, Poland, a little Turkey.
                  Russia also forgot to add, do not underestimate the agents of influence. He who has eyes, let him see.
                  In the Crimea, back in the summer of 13, before all the Maidans (he was not on vacation but at a wedding), the locals openly spoke - we have been under Ukrainian occupation for twenty years. And took the first opportunity to leave.

                  I visited Crimea every year for work and leisure, I didn’t hear about the occupation, I heard about returning to Russia, I heard about the opportunity to leave - a well-planned operation of the Russian special services, in fact a direct invasion of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the result of the world’s non-recognition of the annexation of Crimea by Russia.
                  There was simply no direct Russian intervention on the Maidan; there was direct US intervention only. By their own admission (Victoria Nuland) they spent five billion dollars on this Maidan.
                  they didn’t spend on the Maidan, but invested in Ukraine for all the time of independence, do not misinterpret the words, Russia invested many times more, just one last loan to Janek in $ 3 lard.
                  There was ALREADY an American squadron in the Black Sea (it turned out to be by chance), and it went to the Crimea. Therefore, the events there developed so rapidly. Russia could not afford missiles with nuclear charges with a flight time of minutes in minutes, this is the reason for Crimea.
                  do you believe that? Are there any facts? The Russian fleet was in Crimea, do you really believe these tales? Are you serious??
                  And the reason for the Donbass is the Ukrainian Nazis, THEY started a civil war, then on YouTube there were a lot of video clips published on phones.
                  I agree here, but judging by the behavior of Yanek, who did nothing to stop the ukronatsiks, I’m 110% sure that he needed them, and Russia took advantage of the situation very timely, I won’t be surprised when in the end it turns out that ears stick out for our liquidationists Russian agents of influence.
  • Herman 4223 29 January 2020 07: 09 New
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    Future history will wipe this state off the face of the earth. This is an obvious thing, because this country is artificial, if you look at it.
    Ukrainian is spoken in several areas of the western part of the country. But if you think about it, Ukrainian differs little from the Polish language. If Russia begins to restore sovereignty within its internationally recognized borders of 1945, the name Ukraine will simply disappear. It will be just Kiev, Odessa, etc., the region.
  • sleeve 29 January 2020 07: 14 New
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    What does "small" mean? Ukraine is in the top five European countries by industry and the first in the agricultural sector. She has the strongest army and you from the European states and the fleet is the sixth in the rating. And per capita income in the top five. And by education (the share of university graduates per 1000 people) is the first in Europe. Oh, sorry, the year 1991 opened ...
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      It’s hard for you from the fact that Ukraine can live without Moscow, it doesn’t crush you.