Pre-war "democracies" of Scandinavia and the Baltic states

Pre-war "democracies" of Scandinavia and the Baltic states
A bunch of Danish Nazis


Scandinavia now appears as a boarding house for aesthetes of northern landscapes. However, before the Second World War, no one with such "scientific" pedantry did not translate racial theories into reality like Sweden, Denmark and Norway. Of course, the Nazis in white coats and with scientific degrees did not wander around Oslo or Copenhagen, illuminating the ancient streets with torchlight, but their loyalty to Nazi ideas was undeniable.

From the end of the 20s until the outbreak of the war, in one form or another, the so-called laws on race purity were adopted in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. People “inferior” (according to these laws) were forcedly sterilized, and sometimes without their knowledge. Bans on interracial marriages were introduced, etc. All this went smoothly, without odiousness and systematic, only then did the most ardent Nazis decide to traverse the organizational and heraldic part of Nazism with swastika, marches and more.

Our Scandinavian "friends"


In Denmark, in the homeland of Hans Christian Andersen, a friend from childhood, before the Second World War, power was a kind of puppet parliamentarism. When the Prime Minister did not suit the King of Denmark, he collected things and set off on his own. At the same time, the composition of the parliament was unusually colorful and consistent with the spirit of the times of Europe.


Fritz Clausen

Founded in 1930 by Kai Lembke and Fritz Clausen, the National Socialist Workers Party of Denmark grew into a major movement in five years. In the 1935 election, the Nazis almost got into parliament. But in 1939, three representatives went to parliament from the Danish Nazis. Five thousand active party members were supported by another 30 thousand citizens of this sweet "democracy." Later, the most irreconcilable Danish Nazis will become the backbone of the SS Danmark’s volunteer corps. The piquancy of the situation is that the heirs of that Danish movement have not disappeared. To this day, the National Socialist Movement of Denmark officially unites up to 1000 democratic Europeans.

And now we will be transported to the homeland of the most smelly "delicacy" fish in the world - to Norway. If you start to consider the political life of Norway before the war, then the image of the occupied unhappy country begins to fade. In 1933, Vidkun Quisling, Minister of Defense of Norway, founded and led the National Unity party. Frank Nazis from this party did not hide their plans in principle. Vidkun himself in his book “Russia and We” of 1930 openly wrote about the “yoke of Jewish power” in the USSR.


Poster of the norwegian nazis

By 1933, in the one and a half million Norway, the Nazis gathered 33 thousand votes, and in 1936 there were over 50 thousand fans of the local Fuhrer. By 1940, only the number of party members exceeded 40 thousand people. During the "occupation", which, however, was accepted practically without resistance, Vidkun became the Minister-President of the country. This native Norwegian with his like-minded people, without any initiative from the Germans, rolled up their sleeves and began to solve the “Jewish question”, sending without the Gestapo and the SS up to half of the Jews to the camps. After the "liberation" of Norway, almost all members of the "National Unity" were amnestied. For all, only Quisling puffed out, who was tried and shot for a look.

But the cornerstone of Nazi Germany in Scandinavia was Sweden. Formally adhering to neutrality, Sweden was actually on the side of Hitler. Millions of tons of ore and metal were sent to Germany in Swedish naval convoys, which were accompanied by ... Swedish warships. Also in support of Germany was formed Svenska frivilligbataljonen, i.e. Swedish volunteer battalion. The “neutral” king of Sweden, Gustav V., appeared at the shows of this “neutral” formation. How can one not visit those close in spirit? The king, as a caring friend, even sent the Fuhrer letters of congratulations on the victories of Germany in the territory of the Union.


King Gustav V (right) and Hermann Goering

Back in 1922, the State Institute of Racial Biology was founded in Sweden. From a “scientific” point of view, he substantiated the need for racial laws. For several years, "scientists" have measured about 150 thousand skulls of citizens of Sweden in order to find "high-quality racial material." At the same time, the Swedish Racial Hygiene Society was actively functioning. The crown of this action was the frankly racial law of 1934. During the validity of this law, which, incidentally, was repealed only in 1976 (!), Over 30 thousand (according to other sources, over 60 thousand) people were sterilized for a variety of reasons, including belonging to national minorities like the Sami.


Cute grandpa Kamprad

Such state eugenic Nazism survived even World War II behind a screen of "neutrality." But quite odious Nazis felt themselves quite freely in Sweden. In 1930, Uppsala students organized the Det Nya Sverige movement, i.e. "New Sweden". In a matter of years, the movement brought together about 10 thousand members who actively participated in pro-German positions even during the war. The scale of this movement was such that Ingvar Kamprad, the world-famous founder of Ikea, took part in the recruitment of new members. Until 1945, the future tycoon campaigned among young people and raised money for his brothers in mind.


Swedish Race Institute Visual Aid

But this "democratic" Sweden of the 30s and 40s was not enough. In 1915, the National Union of Sweden was founded, which in turn was the youth wing of the Right Party. Over time, "youth" grew and finally separated from its mother's office, becoming ardent Nazi radicals. In the mid-30s, the Nazis were even able to nominate three of their representatives in the Riksdag (Swedish Parliament).

Later, all these movements and parties assisted the former Nazis. Some were transported to the West, others were put on the shield of the struggle against communist despotism, and, of course, in every possible way opposed the extradition of collaborators and Nazi criminals of all stripes to the authorities of the USSR. And the race institute of Sweden was abolished only in 1958. True, the abolition was very peculiar - research was continued within the walls of Uppsala University.

Baltic states - totalitarian farm of pre-war Europe


Of the three Baltic countries throughout the thirty years since independence, enviable constancy has been heard with a nostalgic moan over the pre-war “democracy” and “freedom” that the bloody Russian Bolsheviks have taken. So what kind of freedom and European democracy are we talking about?


In fact, all three Baltic countries were vivid examples of a typical Eastern European dictatorship with a tilt towards terry cave nationalism. At the same time, these dictatorships were farmers. There was no industrial brilliance of the monstrous Nazi Germany. The difficult economic, epidemiological and social situations became a springboard for any ultra-right populist, who succeeded each other at an astonishing speed, not disdaining any military coups, no cruel repressions, or a colossal denunciation institution that even the Gestapo would envy.


Estonian "Vapses"

In 1934, the leader of Estonia with the official title of elder Konstantin Päts, together with General Johan Laidoner, organized and carried out a military coup, which led to the so-called Päts dictatorship. A one-party system, strict censorship of the media was instantly introduced and the “Estonization” of the country's population began. Terry Nazism has become a reality. The evil irony of fate is that the Estonian people had no alternative. After all, the main opponents of Pats were no less Nazis from the party of “Vapses” (League of Veterans of the Liberation War). These young men built their party following the example of Finnish and German Nazis, having deep ties with them. Later, using precisely these connections, the leader of the “Vapses” Arthur Sirk was able to flee abroad from the followers of Päts. In general, the assortment of the Fuhrer in the “democratic” Estonia was rich.


Estonian Nazis and their older comrades

Latvia did not lag behind. In the same 1934, when the Päts coup took place in Estonia, in Latvia Karlis Ulmanis, with the assistance of the armed forces and aizsarg groups, organized as paramilitary black shirts, seized power and established a dictatorial ultra-right regime. All political parties were liquidated, the constitution was suspended, the Sejm was dissolved and repressions were launched against the adherents of the socialist parties and communists.


Aizsargi

At the same time, the rampant nationalism in Latvia eventually took even unsystematic forms, while being completely protected by the official authorities. In the same year of the coup, a landmark and terrible murder of the unofficial leader of the Russian Orthodox community of Latvia, Archbishop John Pommer. The fierce fighter against Russophobia and the defender of Orthodoxy, Archbishop John, was found on the second floor of a burnt carpentry workshop on the outskirts of Riga, where he actually lived. Traces of torture were found on the body. The archbishop's hands were tied with wire, a groovy wound was found in the groin, and burn marks from a glow lamp were noted on the body. Naturally, the case was deliberately destroyed, the suspects were released, and a month later the investigation was officially terminated. Soon the Latvian Orthodox Church was withdrawn from the Moscow Patriarchate and introduced to Constantinople. The Nazis rejoiced.


Little Fuhrer of Lithuania - Smetona

However, pre-war Lithuania can be safely considered the undisputed leader in the imposition of Nazism, Russophobia and anti-Semitism. Back in 1926, through a military coup, Antanas Smetona came to power in Lithuania with his party of right-wing radicals, the Union of Lithuanian Nationalists, created in 1924. The algorithm of actions was no different from the actions of nationalists in other Baltic countries - the prohibition of all parties, tightening censorship and ethnic discrimination. Government contacts Smetona with German Nazis and Italian fascists were so close and deep that Augustinas Povilaitis, director of the Lithuanian state security department, reported operational information to his curators from the SS (Heinz Grefe, SS Obersturmbanführer) and the RSHA (Werner Best) with the same diligence as and his formal superiors. In fact, throughout the 30s, Lithuanian special services served the Nazis.


During the war, Estonian “Vapses” in a crowd went into the ranks of “Omakaitse”, an Estonian paramilitary police who served in concentration camps, carried out punitive actions and exterminated Jews. Latvian aizsargs joined the Nazi support police. And the Lithuanian nationalists scattered amicably across the SS and the Wehrmacht, however, in these offices there were enough Estonians and Latvians.

In the homeland of Joulupucca


According to a peculiar modern mythology, Finland was pushed away by the "bloody" Stalin towards an alliance with Nazi Germany during the Winter War. But long before the war, Finnish nationalism and anti-communism were cultivated at the highest level. For example, Kyuesti Kallio, a right-wing politician, prime minister, and from 1937 to 1940 the president of Finland, always stood in anti-communist positions, crushing any democratic principles under his own views.

In 1923, when Kallio was sitting in the chair of the Prime Minister, he, manipulating the government, opened the real witch hunt for the Socialist Workers Party of Finland. The party, which gained 15% of the vote, was banned. Prominent party leaders were arrested on far-fetched pretexts, even a suspicion of sympathy for communist ideas could become the occasion. The Communists actually became illegal, and the repression went wave after wave.


Lapua movement flag

To consolidate this “victory” over the Communists, Kallio began to develop a real state program, which was supposed to block the way for the Communists to power and consolidate the position of the ultra-right. All this led to the birth of the Lapua movement, which stood on the doctrine of nationalism. The Lapua movement began extremely symbolically - with the pogrom of the meeting of the Communists. Soon the movement turned into a kind of assault detachment of the Reich. Lapuans practiced terror. As a result, only in 1932 did the Finnish authorities understand which beast was released when the Lapuans drew up a plan for a military coup. The movement was “threatened” with the use of troops.


The leaders of the Patriotic movement on the background of a bust of the Italian Duce

The movement was dissolved ... formally. In the same 1932, the Patriotic Popular Movement was created. In fact, it was a political party, but the movement was Nazi. Members made friends with the Nazis and the Italian fascists. The idea of ​​fixation, they considered the "Great Finland", which they planned to create by conquering the vast territories of the USSR and Sweden. The fascist salute was adopted as an official greeting in the party, there was its own “Hitler Youth” and its “attack aircraft”. The party easily led its members to the Finnish parliament. And the leaders of this club of villains were not some marginals, but the first people of the country: diplomat German Gummerus, ex-commander of the Finnish Air Force Arne Somersalo, writer Vilho Helanen, etc.

There were also numerous smaller Nazis: the Karelian Academic Society, who dreamed of seizing the territories of the Union, the “Blue-Blacks” (something like stormtroopers), etc.

To be continued ...
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  1. bessmertniy 2 February 2020 06: 34 New
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    Hitlerite Germany did not have to conquer Scandinavia - it itself lay at its feet and during the Second World War was a reliable buffer and supplier of resources. hi
    1. Comrade 2 February 2020 06: 58 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      Hitlerite Germany did not have to conquer Scandinavia - it itself lay at its feet and during the Second World War was a reliable buffer and supplier of resources

      It’s not alone, it’s impossible not to recall the Ukrainian fascists who regularly supplied the Germans with cannon fodder.
      Here is a picture of Evgen the Pobiguyushchy, for example. Colonel Waffen SS division "Galicia", the swastika salutes.

      After the war, this freak warmed the English (!) the occupation army in Germany, where he served in security units.
    2. Svarog 2 February 2020 09: 34 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      Hitlerite Germany did not have to conquer Scandinavia - it itself lay at its feet and during the Second World War was a reliable buffer and supplier of resources. hi

      Good Europeans, I must say, didn’t particularly resist at all ..
    3. maidan.izrailovich 3 February 2020 09: 28 New
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      Hitlerite Germany did not have to conquer Scandinavia ...

      So they took Scandinavia with almost bare hands.
      In Norway, the truth had to tinker. But there, and British troops participated in the battles. German casualties of 3672 killed and missing.
      The casualties of Germany during the "capture" of Denmark amounted to 2 killed and 10 wounded.
      1. cyberspace 3 February 2020 12: 37 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        The casualties of Germany during the "capture" of Denmark amounted to 2 killed and 10 wounded.

        Since less than 3 hours have elapsed between the Wehrmacht border crossing and surrender, the victims apparently got drunk noting success or were injured in line for rewards
  2. Octopus 2 February 2020 07: 04 New
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    Until the very end, I thought that I was reading the "historian" Samsonov, who for some reason passed into "opinions."

    Well. The author is very sloppy, constantly confuses nationalists, national socialists and racists. But a couple of correct thoughts from his text can be extracted, most likely, contrary to the wishes of the author.

    1. Hitler’s ideas in interwar Europe were considered too radical, but they were quite present on the extreme right flank of politics in many countries. The author’s desire to find three Nazis in each parliament is very funny, but the fact is that they really were, and therefore Hitler and the company did not at all seem to the public some direct messengers of hell.

    2. The simple human desire to rid the country of the Communists tends to expand uncontrollably at the expense of other groups of the population that were not originally associated with communism. 20 years later, unfortunately, McCarthy went this way. Radical ideologies really voluntarily or involuntarily feed each other.
    1. Operator 2 February 2020 11: 26 New
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      Yes, you, my friend, a born-again anti-Semitic - the purification of the Scandinavian countries from all (and not only communists) political opponents of the Nazis each time ended in the extermination of Jews.

      The Balts, who generally abolished the multi-party system, parliaments, elections, etc., were especially distinguished in that matter. Nevertheless, the current Baltic states have officially recognized themselves as the successors of precisely totalitarian regimes.
      1. Octopus 2 February 2020 12: 34 New
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        Yes, you are absolutely right, I mean the same thing. The fight against the Bolsheviks easily and seamlessly flowed into pogroms. This is not only a Scandinavian feature.
        1. Operator 2 February 2020 12: 39 New
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          Did not understand the humor
          Quote: Octopus
          Quote: Operator
          Yes you, my friend, a born anti-Semite
          You are absolutely right
          1. Octopus 2 February 2020 12: 47 New
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            Did not understand the humor

            Well, what can I do here.
  3. Thrifty 2 February 2020 07: 06 New
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    I wonder why, for the destruction of Jews in THESE countries, Israel does not demand monetary compensation from them, as well as from Polyakhia, from Ukraine, and only Germans milk it?
    1. bessmertniy 2 February 2020 07: 25 New
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      The Germans are simply milking, while others are not milking. lol Therefore, they piled on them.
      1. cyberspace 3 February 2020 12: 47 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        The Germans are simply milking, while others are not milking.

        Because denazification was only in Germany, but according to normal, it had to be carried out in all countries of Europe, both Western and Eastern, both in the Baltic States and Ukraine.
  4. Free wind 2 February 2020 08: 18 New
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    Visual aid for the racial institute of Sweden, what kind of poster, why, what kind of people are there? This is a shame of the nation, these are Jews, the police are looking for them, to shoot everyone? In the Swedish group ABBA, soloists are the result of experiments on crossing “outstanding” Fritz with Swedes.
    1. Falx 2 February 2020 21: 44 New
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      only one of the two soloists, and it is the result of a connection between a German soldier and a Norwegian, not a Swedish one.
      the fact is that the mother of this soloist managed to escape to Sweden on time, thereby ensuring her daughter a normal life. at the same time and myself. Other women accused of having links with German soldiers and their children were much less fortunate. At VO there was an article about this.
      Here are such enlightened Europeans. they did not dare to resist the aggressor, and after their release they avenged women and certainly innocent children for their shame ...
      cowardly jackals!
  5. Sayan 2 February 2020 08: 19 New
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    Then they geared the German Reich, now the American
  6. parusnik 2 February 2020 08: 50 New
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    Respect to the author for the article! hi Well, what kind of bright democracies with a brown touch, the bloody Stalin trampled on his Caucasian boots in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and the insidious agents of the Third International, sought to stir up the world revolution in "democratic" countries ... laughing
    1. Reptiloid 2 February 2020 11: 20 New
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      Good morning, Aleksey! I learned new things for myself.
      Quote: parusnik
      .... hi what kind of bright democracies with a brown touch, the bloody Stalin trampled on his Caucasian boots in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and the insidious agents of the Third International tried to stir up the world revolution in "democratic" countries ... laughing
      Now the time has come when their dreams come true. negative Only without recharging €€€€€€ from the EU it is impossible to survive. But you dreamed of living at the expense of the Soviet inheritance crying . The EU is already tired of providing them
      1. Lelek 2 February 2020 14: 58 New
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        Now the time has come when their dreams come true. Only without recharging €€€€€€ from the EU it is impossible to survive. But you dreamed of living at the expense of the Soviet inheritance

        hi
        That's why Russia needs to behave with the old and new "Europeans" according to the canons of Danilevsky and Dusinsky:
    2. ANB
      ANB 2 February 2020 14: 31 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      trampled bloody Stalin with his

      Stalin did not stomp anything.
      Purely legally, the Baltic states joined the USSR in a completely legal and democratic way. At the same time, the USSR removed the totalitarian regimes from power, which came to power illegally, through military coups.
      By the way, it would be necessary to demand compensation from the Baltic states for this. And for the liberation from the Germans, and for the post-war restoration .....
      1. parusnik 2 February 2020 15: 29 New
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        Next time I will put more emoticons denoting sarcasm ... hi
        1. Reptiloid 2 February 2020 18: 40 New
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          Somehow they, nonsense, lived very well under this laughing with Stalin’s boot, the construction there after the Second World War was such that they themselves wouldn’t have enough strength, the population growth was ...... Yes, and later our all of them did the showcase ..... apparently they were used to being a showcase, they thought the EU will raise higher. negative Steel backyard
          tolerant europe now
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          ANB 3 February 2020 00: 36 New
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          So it was clear about sarcasm. And I put a plus sign. This is to enhance the effect :)
      2. Sergey49 5 February 2020 14: 36 New
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        By your logic, if a woman is pre-positioned with a knife to her throat and therefore she will not resist, is this not rape? However, the lawyers will not agree with you.
        PS Power in the USSR is also illegal according to your logic, because also obtained as a result of a military coup. :)
        1. ANB
          ANB 5 February 2020 16: 20 New
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          Demonstrations demanding a change of power were? Was there a new power election? Further, the new parliament turned to the Supreme Council of the USSR with a request for admission to the Union.
          What is undemocratic by the standards of the 30s?
          And the Soviets gained power as a result of an armed uprising of the people, and not a military coup. The difference is huge.
          The February revolution is just closer to the coup.
          1. Griol 29 February 2020 08: 53 New
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            It was you, a young man, who did not read about the tablets of our common history. What the Bolsheviks later proudly called the “revolution” was precisely a coup, organized with the money received by the leader from the German General Staff.
  7. hhhhhhh 2 February 2020 09: 34 New
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    YOU ALL.
  8. Keyser soze 2 February 2020 09: 54 New
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    Five thousand active party members were supported by another 30 thousand citizens of this sweet "democracy."


    I looked at the number of Danes in 1940 - 3,844,312. And already 35 supported the Nazis. The author could compare the percentage with collaborators and collaborators of the Nazis in the USSR.

    The second is the socialism that the Scandinavians rebuilt and the USSR did not dream of - education, medicine, workers' protection, prosperity and wages, etc. I have to admit that the guys can build socialism.

    In general, the full Samsonism eta article. Hooray, Europeans are fascists, their grandfathers are fascists, and we are all in white.

    And we have similar Samsonovs writing a similar idle talk - Russian bloody communists, oligarchs, feudal lords, aggressors, occupiers of Europe, it is necessary to arm themselves, Russian aggression, etc.

    The question is, do you need to read and believe such nonsense and hit the deaf nationalism, where everyone is bad and you are all white and good?
    1. Octopus 2 February 2020 10: 41 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Russian bloody communists, oligarchs, feudal lords, aggressors, occupiers of Europe, must arm themselves, Russian aggression, etc., etc.

      The question is, do you need to read and believe such nonsense and hit the deaf nationalism, where everyone is bad and you are all white and good?

      At you - it is in Bulgaria, it seems?

      Arms can wait a while, you do not have a common border. But to follow their politicians and officials (sympathizers of Russia - very often thieves) - it is never harmful.
      1. Keyser soze 2 February 2020 12: 00 New
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        Agree drinks

        Arms can wait a while, you do not have a common border.


        Yes, even if we arm ourselves, our problems are not related to the Russian Federation. We need a small and modern army for our own security. But this is not the topic of this article.
        1. Octopus 2 February 2020 12: 43 New
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          We need a small and modern army for our own security.

          From whom? From Macedonia?

          You, of course, know better at home, but historically the Balkans have been playgrounds for the great, God forgive me, the powers. In such a situation, a coherent police, coherent intelligence services, an authoritative court, and a serious culture of parliamentary and journalistic investigations are needed. You must be sure that your state works precisely for your people, and not as usual.

          However, this is useful to everyone, not only to the Balkans.
    2. Was mammoth 2 February 2020 11: 11 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      I watched.... .

      In the USSR there was not and could not be strong support for fascism. The ideology and system, however, was not the same. For fascism, a foundation is needed - support by power and capital. In Europe it was and is, including in its south, in Bulgaria.
      We must read and know the lessons of history, so as not to "step on the rake", and "deaf nationalism" - this is to fascism and Nazism.
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      I have to admit that the guys can build socialism.

      You want to say that the Swedes can and are building communism? wink What is your philosophical definition of socialism? wink The allegations that something was not dreamed of in the USSR were very bold. wink
      1. Keyser soze 2 February 2020 11: 55 New
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        The USSR was not and could not be a strong support for fascism.


        I can open the document on collaboration and see the supporters of fascism during the war. This, of course, is no reason to call the Russian epithet fascists.

        In Europe it was and is, including in its south, in Bulgaria.


        Yes, everywhere there were supporters of fascism, in every country. Everywhere there are now - marginalized and freaks of darkness. By the way, during World War II there were no official fascist parties in Bulgaria, but we officially saved our Jews and officially refused to surrender them to the Reich and officially refused to fight against the Russians. We had about 80 volunteers on the Eastern Front. But this is not the point ... we are talking about fascism in principle and that it is a movement of marginals.

        You want to say that the Swedes can and are building communism? wink What is your philosophical definition of socialism?


        Socialism and communism are different, and the philosophical dimension has nothing to do with it - practical socialism is observed not only in Scandinavia but also in France, Greece and throughout Europe. There are such benefits for workers and working people that we never dreamed of in the developed socialism of the 80s ... drinks
        1. Was mammoth 2 February 2020 12: 49 New
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          But this is not the point ... we are talking about fascism in principle and that it is a movement of marginals.

          No. Fascist and pro-fascist states in Europe are a natural reaction of capital to the results of the First World War and the Great October Socialist Revolution.
          Bulgaria is no exception. Before the revolution in Russia there was a Black Hundred movement, for example. And now there are such views. Even the victims of World War II is not a cure. Example-Ukraine.
          I repeat, for fascism a foundation is needed- support by power and capital.
          You can intimidate a person, but not change your views.
          Perhaps the difference of languages. Social and socialist are not the same thing.
          PS My father told how the Bulgarians met the Soviet Army. Even a white officer who settled in Bulgaria after our Civil War (he had a chance to meet one) was happy about the arrival of the Soviet Army.
        2. Uve bjørnsson 2 February 2020 13: 54 New
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          Keyser Soze,

          The benefits for workers and workers are slowly but surely being cut off.
          In the same Britain another 10 years ago there was a bunch of benefits and bonuses for hard workers, which were easy to get, if not lazy.
          Now everything is not so rosy, and there needs to be much more papers in order to milk something from the state (I mean by law, not sitting on the neck of this very state).
          The same 12-hour shifts are now a common thing, and even 5-7 years ago any English would send a slave. Any English to a distant erotic, 8 hours and no more!
          In general, it would be nice to recall how and under what conditions the hard workers of enlightened Europe lived before the creation of the USSR.
          12,14 hours working days could be fired at any moment, only because the owner of the company so wanted (his wife didn’t give, a little dough for another car / resort / house) and other delights.
          Just, and It was thanks to the Union that the West began to stir in the social sphere, in order to counterbalance that the enlightened and democratic, hard workers are not kept in the cold.
          And not because the bourgeoisie suddenly had a conscience.
          With the destruction of the geopolitical competitor (USSR), this expense item (rather rather big in the budgets of any western country) became unnecessary, stupidly unprofitable, any current "businessman" will tell you that he is European, that American.
          So all these joys on the social life of the last years.
          1. pytar 2 February 2020 18: 34 New
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            With the destruction of the geopolitical competitor (USSR), this expense item (rather rather big in the budgets of any western country) became unnecessary, stupidly unprofitable, any current "businessman" will tell you that he is European, that American. So all these joys on the social network have survived in recent years .

            Uve bjørnsson, and I have the same opinion. Just one note: you missed the list of current Russian "businessmen." hi
        3. Arlen 2 February 2020 14: 18 New
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          I can open a document on collaboration and see the supporters of fascism during the war

          Let's open and see what's there. At the same time, we will discuss how many Soviet citizens were collaborators and compare where they were most.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Hurray, fascists Europeans, their grandfathers - fascists

          You compare how many people were in the resistance movement and in the accomplices of Germany until 1944.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          The question is, do you need to read and believe such nonsense and hit the deaf nationalism, where everyone is bad and you are all white and good?

          It is necessary to study the issue thoroughly, and not to arrange obscure demagoguery.
    3. pytar 2 February 2020 12: 48 New
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      Hi Eugene! The author writes, I quote:
      But the cornerstone of Nazi Germany in Scandinavia was Sweden. Formally adhering to neutrality, Sweden was actually on the side of Hitler. Millions of tons of ore and metal were sent to Germany in Swedish naval convoys, which were accompanied by ... Swedish warships. ... The king, as a caring friend, even sent letters to the Führer with congratulations on the victories of Germany in the territory of the Union.

      According to the author’s logic, the same thing applies to the USSR, which for almost 2 years, until June 22, 41 did the same, providing up to 40% of the German economy to severe countries ?! And congratulations from the Soviet leadership to Hitler also came! It is a fact! belay
      1. Was mammoth 2 February 2020 14: 58 New
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        It is a fact!

        "With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool."
        Germany, France, and Great Britain were equally hostile to the USSR ... Well, do not you think that the Communists provided free humanitarian aid to the Nazis?
        By the way, I do not know if the USSR traded with Bulgaria at that time.
        1. pytar 2 February 2020 17: 34 New
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          Germany, France, and Great Britain were equally hostile to the USSR ...

          It is logical, because the ideology prevailing in the USSR was extremely hostile to capitalism. This did not stop them from drawing closer if interests converged. Rhetoric was appropriate on the situation.
          Well, do not you think that the Communists provided free humanitarian aid to the Nazis?

          Mutually beneficial trade. Like the Swedes, who were discussed in the Staty, and from other countries the same. Let me remind you that the concession on Sakhalin worked and supplied Japan with oil, up to the middle of the 45th.
          By the way, I do not know if the USSR traded with Bulgaria at that time.

          The USSR and Bulgaria have been trading since 34. Particularly noticeably increased trade since October 40. Bulgarian and Soviet ships constantly ply between our Black Sea havens.
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            Mutually beneficial trade.

            Exactly! Trade with Germany later helped beat the Nazis with the help of German machine tools and technology.wink
            The minus is not mine.
            1. pytar 2 February 2020 18: 27 New
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              Exactly! Trade with Germany later helped beat the Nazis with the help of German machine tools and technology.

              That's the right application of German cars and technology! good We have a saying - from techite stones to techite chapters! / with their stones, by their heads! / laughing
              Unfortunately, Stalin made a fatal mistake, believing that the idyll would go on for more time ... An error worth living in the millions of Soviet people!
              The minus is not mine.

              I’m not minus anyone. Only pluses, if that ... hi
    4. NordUral 3 February 2020 10: 51 New
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      Keyser soze! for all social benefits, the Swedes, and indeed the whole world where they existed, the USSR should bow to their feet. Without it, a shish with oil, they would have had that well-being.
      The present clearly shows this.
      1. Keyser soze 3 February 2020 14: 19 New
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        the Swedes, and the whole world where they existed, the USSR should bow at the feet.


        :)) And why do you think so? In Australia, there is an 8 hour working day somewhere from 1870.
        Think you invented warm water?
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          Why is it now worse in hot water in London than in Voronezh ?!
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    6. Mihail2019 8 February 2020 19: 31 New
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      Do you advocate socialism or capitalism?
    7. Mihail2019 8 February 2020 19: 44 New
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      We have to admit that with the Danes numbering 3800 thousand people. and their territory Denmark did not give up to anyone as a subject of international politics. Limitrof - no more. But Russia with its population, territory and resources is a tidbit for many small states ..
      And there were many people who wanted to tear a piece from Russia.
      So it’s an honor and praise to Stalin that, even in such foreign policy conditions, he did not forget about the basis — the people and everything possible took to increase it both numerically and qualitatively.
      Lamentations about the Gulag - in the furnace! Make a sample for the 30s on labor armies in the SGA and the number of prisoners - then you can talk ..
  9. Talgarets 2 February 2020 10: 47 New
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    Fritz Clausen's face is completely disfigured by intellect laughing
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    I'm certainly not a historian or analyst. I get the impression that before the WWII shredded everywhere and everyone. We have communists of counter-revolutionaries, they have Jews and homosexuals, in the states of blacks with Indians. But basically they killed people! Some kind of obsession. And then it all grew into a big mess. The main thing is to understand and remember.
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    Thank you to the author !! briefly but informatively. To throw such an Old where in PACE under the nose of Democrats
    1. Mihail2019 8 February 2020 19: 48 New
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      Then Kolya’s boy from Novy Urengoy’s grant will lose ..
      So it turns out that the Russians really saved the whole of Europe from the “brown” plague - including the Scandinavians, from the creeping plague ..
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    Keyser Soze (Eugene), I will quote you: "By the way, during World War II there were no official fascist parties in Bulgaria and we officially saved our Jews and officially refused to surrender them to the Reich and officially refused to fight against the Russians." There were no fascist parties in Bulgaria, you “returned yours” in the spring of 1941. Skopje and Ohrid, Syar and Kavala, Borovets and Dedeagach - and Bulgaria became great, from sea to sea!
    Well, about the fact that they refused to fight with the Russians, let's disassemble a little more. Well, Adolf Aloizovich really wanted in September 1941 to see Leningrad and Moscow, but the soldiers were not enough on the Eastern Front. He handed Lerin and Woden to his faithful allies - the Bulgarians. And the Aryan soldier sent to fight with the Russians. And in January 1942, Sevastopol fought surrounded, and the Germans betrayed the Bulgarian occupation of Nis and Krushevets, and where did the soldiers go to the Russian front or to Africa? In January 1943, after Stalingrad, Great Bulgaria, where there were no fascist parties, received from the Nazis Kosovsk Mitrovitsa and Čačak, relieving hundreds of soldiers and officers of the Wehrmacht from the functions of the invaders. In March 1943, the Bulgarians received a purely Bulgarian city under occupation - Kostur, in July 1943, just near Kursk and Orel there was not enough people and equipment from the Wehrmacht - the Bulgarians Negotin and Topolnitsa, Smederevo and Kukush received from the Germans. I wonder why the Germans didn’t betray the purely Bulgarian city of Solun to the Bulgarians? After all, all Orthodox believe in which city David Solunsky lived - in the originally Bulgarian city with the name Thessaloniki ... Apparently, the example of Varna did not please the admirals of Germany, although about 40 ships and boats, including 6 or 7 German ones submarines based in Varna.
    And about how the Jews from the originally Bulgarian city of Kostur (Kastoria in Greece) in 1944 sent the Bulgarians to the death camps to the Germans, one should in detail ask site visitors from the promised land to question, but remember that the Bulgarians sent Jews from the occupied Thrace to the camps earlier, in February 1943. Here only the hot Estonian guys had the primacy in the "final solution of the Jewish question", they didn’t even arrange a Jewish ghetto, they destroyed all Soviet citizens of Jewish nationality in the occupied territory of the ESSR by February 1942, without the help of the SS and the Gestapo. Everyone, from infants to old people ... In Israel, something tells me, they remember who Alexander Belev was in the Bulgarian Ministry of Internal Affairs. Oh, excuse me, his mother was Italian, her genes worked ... Yes, even the citizens of Israel repeat the question that the respected Thrifty asked: “I wonder why Israel does not require monetary compensation from them for the destruction of Jews in THESE countries, as well as from Polyahii, from Ukraine, and only Germans milk? "
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      You will answer us for the First World War when there were no fascists / communists / Jews, but Bulgaria fought zealously on the side of Germany, Austria-Hungary and Turkey.
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      Wow! Here is a detailed comment! I respect !!
      By the way - yes: history is an interesting science .. If you raise the archives - a lot of interesting things will open.
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    Christ will save sinners only, but not the righteous ... You need to learn from the Britons. Shit was tied up everywhere, but they still have separate training and preserved traditions (which Russia was successfully relieved of). And you do not discuss the same notorious sovereignty. I do not want to delve into the definitions of nationalism and Nazism, it is important that fundamentally these are the national interests of the country. And these are people and the territory and traditions and their culture. Actually the party is power over the country. Who and on what grounds decides that he needs this power and for what? For myself, I answer, only for the sovereignty of the country.
    __ Of course the fascist model does not fit into any framework, one concept of genocide is worth it. But the same shaves were previously engaged in this and no one to this day judges them for the same.
    Those. national interests are always associated with sovereignty and words- nation, nationalism, homeland, party, family, brother ... What's wrong with that? Russia has never had an Elder brother (geopolitically). And in small countries they were. From the article it is clear who they chose, at that time, Nazi Germany. But Germany also tried to regain (precisely) sovereignty. Yes, the fascist plague struck all of Europe, mind you besides Britain. Well, the plague, but Bolshevism at that time was already discredited, you yourself know how.
    __I will leave my comment unfinished, like the article itself. To be continued...
    1. Mihail2019 8 February 2020 19: 57 New
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      But who would doubt: "The Englishwoman is crap!"
      It is in their blood. Dumb - at least count on your head!
      Well, the ambition about the "gentlemen" only emphasizes the general limitation.
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    What about de? What about the Munich agreement?
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    Why am I not surprised ?!
    Here, not so long ago, in the comments on the article about the Finnish campaign, someone was crucifying about the “whiteness” of the Finns and the “treachery” of Stalin. There, in the comments, clear facts were given that the USSR tried to resolve the issue through negotiations, but the Finns didn’t.
    This article gives a completely understandable explanation - why the Finns did not compromise: they thought that they would grab more themselves! Well - greed fraer ruined! They still easily got off on the basis of the Second World War!
    And the adherents of Stalin’s “treachery” had to be immediately landed with the question: Are you for Russia-the USSR or for its enemies ?! And then one could not argue ..
    I’m rather saying this for myself.