Sohu suggests: S-400s located in Syria have helped find F-35s near Iran’s borders

Sohu suggests: S-400s located in Syria have helped find F-35s near Iran’s borders

Chinese media commented on a statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov regarding the presence of F-35 fighters near Iran’s borders after Americans hit a car with General Kassem Suleimani in Baghdad. Recall that the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry a few days earlier noted that at least six F-35 fighters were located on the borders of the Islamic Republic. Then Lavrov added that this information is subject to additional verification.


In the Chinese edition of Sohu, commenting on these statements, they recall the words of the Pentagon representative, who spoke in the spirit that “the Russians conceal the tactical and technical characteristics of their S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems.

The material of the Chinese edition mentions the characteristics of the S-400 range - about 400 km.

From the article:

But there is a high probability that it was the S-400s located in Syria that helped the Russian military find the American stealth fighters near the borders of Iran. This may mean that S-400 radars can detect airborne objects at distances that exceed the declared 400 km.

At the same time, in the USA, in fact, recognizing the “visibility” of the F-35 for the S-400 air defense system, they declare the following:

The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.

It is added that "in such a situation, the F-35 will destroy the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system using the electronic jamming system."

In China, the S-400 topic is being discussed especially vigorously due to the fact that the other day the PRC received a new regiment set of missile systems from Russia. Earlier, there were reports of radar tests of S-400 systems on Chinese fifth-generation fighters J-20.
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  1. igorspb 28 January 2020 08: 37 New
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    Yeah, he will score interference, heap it up ...
    1. Cowbra 28 January 2020 08: 58 New
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      Despite the fact that the ground jamming station, however, like the ground radar, will always be more powerful by default
      1. Nikolaevich I 28 January 2020 11: 24 New
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        Quote: Cowbra
        ground station jamming, however, like ground radar - by default it will always be more powerful

        To “clog” a ground-based radar, an aircraft radio transmitter will need much less power ... It is more difficult for aviation to “clog” a “super-powerful” radar; but here for the radar may have its own problems associated with high radiation power.
        1. Cowbra 28 January 2020 13: 30 New
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          And to score a missile guidance system - MORE less. At the same time, the ground-based radar will detect the air one earlier, and will be ready for attack. And a missile pointing at a radar beam ...
          1. 3danimal 29 January 2020 05: 51 New
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            So the air will fly in passive mode, moreover, having a small EPR.
            And the ground one is always easy to force to turn on, to "pull" with false goals-imitators.
            Without the support of aviation, ground-based air defense will not stand against the prepared attack of modern attack aircraft.
            1. Cowbra 29 January 2020 06: 02 New
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              In passive mode, it will eat interference. And in order to launch, the platform will enter the coverage area of ​​a powerful radar. That is, on both positions the ground blows air
              1. 3danimal 29 January 2020 10: 08 New
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                The jammer also emits, glows, risking to receive several PRR (up to mass volleys if necessary). Do you understand how the EW station works?
                A powerful radar will not see a low-flying target at a distance of 100 km. To open the air defense, to turn on the radars, can simulators (MALD), launched in large numbers (it may look like a mass launch of the KR on the radar). RTR airplanes will see a POWERFUL radar from a distance much greater than what it “sees”, and give coordinates to the “strikers” flying at low altitude with a dozen PRRs for each. In the end - air defense must do something, say, with a hundred or two -... PRR. Which are small in size and have a speed of 2-3M.
                Aviation has much greater flexibility. The described scenario can only be thwarted by the interaction of ground-based air defense with fighter forces.
          2. Dmitry V. 29 January 2020 12: 17 New
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            Quote: Cowbra
            And to score a missile guidance system - MORE less. At the same time, the ground-based radar will detect the air one earlier, and will be ready for attack. And a missile pointing at a radar beam ...


            Nothing that a rocket goes into a given square in autopilot mode, i.e. in passive mode without control? To correct the trajectory, it can use both the radio command method, WIGOS, GPS correction. You must either put a complex of interference, or know exactly what the enemy used to attack the complex.
        2. PSih2097 28 January 2020 20: 30 New
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          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          To "clog" a ground-based radar, an aircraft radio interference transmitter will need significantly less power ...

          oh well, the S-400 inpatient (air defense of the country), what would it score - you need to hang the reactor on board the aircraft ...
          1. 3danimal 29 January 2020 05: 54 New
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            At a great distance, its power drops sharply and is comparable / weaker than the AFAR radar / fighter electronic warfare station.
            About the reactor: is the S-400 powered by itself? Power characteristics of the radar are publicly available.
    2. knn54 28 January 2020 09: 50 New
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      As my father once said, who had STARTED ANOTHER in the 50th service in air defense., The source of interference can also be brought down, but more difficult.
    3. Krasnoyarsk 28 January 2020 10: 48 New
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      Quote: igorspb
      Yeah, he will score interference, heap it up ...

      As for the interference, I don’t know. recourse And as for the caps ... There is something in this ... lol
    4. Fantazer911 28 January 2020 12: 02 New
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      The stealth system of the F-35 fighter includes the so-called dust-in-the-eye system and therefore the Russian C-400 cannot see it, because with the F-35 afterburner, a special invisibility coating begins to peel off and therefore the destroyer becomes invisible in the dust cloud, and this is BIG interference for the S-400 radar, something like that hi
  2. WILL 28 January 2020 08: 39 New
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    Hooray, Hooray, Hooray ... I’m bored without AnaliteGov Sohu laughing Well, if they assume - it means so! belay
    A whole billion analytics - this is not for you khukhs - mukhras! what
    1. novel66 28 January 2020 08: 42 New
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      hi and I liked it
      The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.
      , sees an eye, yes a tooth is numb ??? lol
      1. WILL 28 January 2020 08: 48 New
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        Novel hi I did not suspect in you - Kitaenista! request
        You can also register at Sohu, you will be there an honorary Analyst from Russia! laughing
        1. novel66 28 January 2020 10: 18 New
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          I don’t roam with their squiggles ... and the mentality is not the same
      2. Flawless 28 January 2020 10: 18 New
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        Quote: novel xnumx
        hi and I liked it
        The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.
        , sees an eye, yes a tooth is numb ??? lol

        It is more suitable for penguin-35
  3. Zeev Zeev 28 January 2020 08: 47 New
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    But didn’t they think that Lavrov said false information in this news agency of theirs?
    1. Evil543 28 January 2020 08: 54 New
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      And you at that time were sitting at the remote control of the C400 radar and can you refute it? hi
    2. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 10: 04 New
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      But didn’t they think that Lavrov said false information in this news agency of theirs?

      Not. Because the mattresses themselves indirectly confirmed the fact of finding their "invisible"
      At the same time, in the USA, in fact, recognizing the “visibility” of the F-35 for the S-400 air defense system, they declare the following:
      The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.
      1. Rzzz 28 January 2020 20: 44 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.

        Well, if they hang out on the border of the affected area, and quickly roll off, having detected the launch or transition of the radar to the "backlight" mode, then they really cannot be knocked down.
        1. Nyrobsky 28 January 2020 20: 59 New
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          Quote: rzzz
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.

          Well, if they hang out on the border of the affected area, and quickly roll off, having detected the launch or transition of the radar to the "backlight" mode, then they really cannot be knocked down.

          Yes. But the charm of the situation lies in the fact that we see their "invisibility" and this circumstance casts doubt on the potential buyer of these cars, is it worth the money that they ask for it. hi
  4. askort154 28 January 2020 08: 52 New
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    The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.

    And the capabilities of the F-35 - do not mean the destruction of the S-400.
    Only practice will dot the I. No wonder the United States and Israel agreed to warn the Russian side when flying in Syria. The point is not iron. yes
    1. bessmertniy 28 January 2020 09: 09 New
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      It smells like fried. Therefore, they are insured. wink
    2. Vitaly gusin 28 January 2020 15: 32 New
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      Quote: askort154
      No wonder the United States and Israel agreed to warn the Russian side, while flying in Syria. The point is not iron

      As you know, it’s not iron.
  5. anjey 28 January 2020 08: 52 New
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    Now even though how much, it is possible to break spears, but unfortunately the superiority of these or those systems, only real databases will be completely determined.
  6. Sergei 777 28 January 2020 08: 56 New
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    So after all, 400 km is the target hit range! A discovery of about 600. And of course this is the data of export modifications.
  7. Amateur 28 January 2020 09: 02 New
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    The material of the Chinese edition mentions the characteristics of the S-400 range - about 400 km.

    Has the horizon been canceled?
  8. Whisper 28 January 2020 09: 19 New
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    Yeah ... they found him for 450km, but he was offended and shot down. No, of course, if he flies to the meeting, dodging missiles fired at him, approaches the distance of launching his own, they will overcome the resistance of covering the division ... to some kind of straight cartoon. But in fact f35 will be on the glass, like a fly smeared.
  9. rocket757 28 January 2020 09: 40 New
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    Sohu suggests: S-400s located in Syria have helped find F-35s near Iran’s borders

    "Mysterious" what ... already horror!
    It is added that "in such a situation, the F-35 will destroy the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system using the electronic jamming system."

    Predictions at the level of delirium ... Separate complexes, somewhere out there, not for butting with a well-equipped, trained opponent ... this is obvious. where there is a full-fledged, modern air defense, no invisibility will turn up!
    1. vvvjak 28 January 2020 09: 45 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Predictions at the Delirium Level

      And full. I alone can not understand the "analysts" of Sohu, did they open the world map? And here From 400 to the discovery of F 35, in a straight line from the Khmeimim base to the nearest border with Iran, about 800 kilometers (offhand). It is clear that ZGRLS, in particular, “Container” (which has already been discussed at VO), have worked.
      1. rocket757 28 January 2020 10: 23 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        I alone can not understand the "analysts" of Sohu, did they open the world map?

        What for? For them, the “obvious” thing is that the average person understands these cards no better!
        They're not writing for an enlightened / savvy audience.
        They don’t care what we call them a little bullshit here .... here they are, all sorts of different "analysts", creators of empty news.
        1. vvvjak 28 January 2020 10: 35 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          What for? For them, the “obvious” thing is that the average person understands these cards no better!

          Well, yes, the main title of the article is: “S 400 vs F-35” and write all kinds of “crap” like C 400 “packs“ F 35 straight in the USA or vice versa F 35 “totally destroys” all C 400 right near the Kremlin (in depending on the direction of the site).
          1. rocket757 28 January 2020 10: 40 New
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            Quote: vvvjak
            Well, yes, the main title of the article:

            Oh yeah! As a rule, people respond to the headline ... but what is the meaning under it, this is already the tenth matter!
            However, lie more, lie always, for .... knowledgeable in the end you get off!
  10. Ros 56 28 January 2020 10: 01 New
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    The ability to detect F-35 fighters does not mean the possibility for the S-400 to bring them down.

    Striped people can think and say anything, but since our “invisibles” found them, then one hundred percent that they will bring down if necessary.
    1. rocket757 28 January 2020 10: 25 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      Striped people can think and say anything, but since our “invisibles” found them, then one hundred percent that they will bring down if necessary.

      Willingness, as well as the ability / ability to shoot down everything and everyone, is a weighty argument so that this "miracle" does not fly where it was not called, especially where it is forbidden to fly.
  11. Flawless 28 January 2020 10: 32 New
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    Until recently, striped sheep claimed that their penguin-35 was invisible, then the whole world complained about the Russian electronic warfare systems in Syria, and now they themselves blabbed that their S-400 penguins supposedly see them;
    And this means that they will see and bring down. This is an obstacle for American dancers.
  12. voyaka uh 28 January 2020 10: 44 New
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    Prior to this, there was a more reasonable article stating that F-35s near Iran were detected by stationary Russian long-range warning radars of the meter range.
    From the territory of Russia. It is possible.
  13. Old26 28 January 2020 13: 56 New
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    Quote: vvvjak
    Quote: rocket757
    Predictions at the Delirium Level

    And full. I alone can not understand the "analysts" of Sohu, did they open the world map? And here From 400 to the discovery of F 35, in a straight line from the Khmeimim base to the nearest border with Iran, about 800 kilometers (offhand). It is clear that ZGRLS, in particular, “Container” (which has already been discussed at VO), have worked.

    Well Sohu in his role. The distance to the border is almost 900 km. Not only does the detection range exceed imaginary ranges (the detection range is at most 600 km), Sohu analysts have forgotten that the characteristic feature of the Stealth aircraft is not the “invisibility” of the aircraft, but a shorter detection range. And as they say in relation to this radar, the detection range of stealth aircraft is 150 km ...
    But the most interesting is that in order to find a plane near the border with Iran it is necessary that it fly at an altitude of more than 40 km.

    A radar of the type “Container, in principle, could detect a plane (“ stealth ”- I don’t know, it is not known at what range stealth-type aircraft are detected). But with“ Container ”it’s not so simple and unambiguous. First, it’s not known what it is now a review sector. Since 1 (according to the plans of 2014) it was planned that it will have a review sector of 2013 ° instead of 240 °. But it is not known whether the plans have come true or not, and even if it has a viewing sector of 180 °, it remains The open question is, at what distance from the border with Iran and in what place was this F-240 discovered.In short, the news from Sohu is still that ...
    1. Vitaly gusin 28 January 2020 15: 39 New
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      Quote: Old26
      In short, the news from Sohu is still ...

      So simple!
      Took and ruined the holiday. +
    2. thanks 29 January 2020 02: 48 New
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      Quote: Old26
      And as they say in relation to this radar, the detection range of stealth aircraft is 150 km ...

      Old 26, you are wrong again, the detection range of S-400 targets with an image intensifier = 4 m2 is D = 600 km, which means that the inconspicuous F-35 with an image intensifier = 0,3 m2 will be detected at a distance of D = 314,136 km in free space.
      1. 3danimal 29 January 2020 17: 34 New
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        And where did the figure of 0,3 square meters come from? The manufacturer claims 0,01.
        And then the detection range (under ideal conditions) is 134,2 km. Which is sadder ...
  14. Tokhtamysh 28 January 2020 20: 55 New
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    The distance there is 1 km. Only a trans-horizon radar can do this. In general, the article is bullshit. In the trend of the state program of debilitation of the population.
  15. lvov_aleksey 29 January 2020 01: 36 New
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    I completely agree with the previous speaker
  16. Nitarius 29 January 2020 04: 45 New
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    if he sees ... then he will get it)) for sure!)
  17. Old26 29 January 2020 12: 21 New
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    Quote: Mersi
    Quote: Old26
    And as they say in relation to this radar, the detection range of stealth aircraft is 150 km ...

    Old 26, you are wrong again, the detection range of S-400 targets with an image intensifier = 4 m2 is D = 600 km, which means that the inconspicuous F-35 with an image intensifier = 0,3 m2 will be detected at a distance of D = 314,136 km in free space.

    I will not argue. It’s just that on some English-language resource, the stealth aircraft detection figure was announced as 150 km
    But in any case, the S-400 radar was not able to detect the F-35 if it was in Iraq near the border with Iran. There are about 500 km to the Syria-Iraq border
    1. 3danimal 29 January 2020 18: 26 New
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      Using the parameters of the manufacturers (600 km at 4 m2 for the radar and 0,01 m2 for the F-35 from the front), the figure is 134 km. So 150km is more or less true.
      Well, I just want to believe in 500)
      Many people have a poor understanding of how stealth affects the detection of an aircraft, assuming that there is only "see, see."