The Turkish question to Russia: “The S-400 air defense systems were transferred, but where are the technologies?”


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The publication in the Turkish edition of Yeni Akit, devoted to the process of transferring Ankara's Russian S-400 Triumph air defense systems, caused a resonance in the country, on the verge of a scandal. It would seem that the inhabitants of the country, now experiencing the consequences of a large-scale earthquake, should not be up to it, but no. Some particularly ardent descendants of the Janissaries have already begun to declare "deception" and "unfair play of the Russians." True enough, there are also those who relate to the issue calmly and carefully, not seeing reasons for indignation. For whom is the truth?

It all started with a small message published on January 20 by the TASS news agency that the Turkish side had already delivered two air defense missile divisions with the corresponding ammunition load of 120 missiles, as well as everything else that came with it — spare parts and more. In addition, it was said that after the official act of transfer and acceptance of weapons signed at the end of last year in Ankara, the warranty period for its service, which lasted 20 months, came into force. At the same time, it was mentioned that there was no question of any “technology transfer” of the production of these air defense systems to the Turkish side, even if only partially, by the terms of the deal, nothing of the kind was provided for.

It was this passage, “re-voiced” by Yeni Akit, that caused the effect of an exploding bomb. Oil added to the fire that the publication, referring to the head of the Secretariat of the country's defense industry Ismail Demir, cited his statement that the planned delivery of the second S-400 set for this year “could be delayed” just because of “technology transfer and joint production "SAM. It turns out that the Turkish Defense Ministry sacredly believes that they will nevertheless share with them the most advanced and secret developments of the domestic defense industry? Therefore, they ask questions from the series: "And where are the technologies?"

And in the same publication there is also a kind of “unobtrusive” reference to the words of Russian President Vladimir Putin that he said in this regard in 2018 - they say that there are no political issues here, there are exclusively commercial issues.

In fact, Vladimir Putin made it clear that he leaves the final decision on the conscience of those structures that will conclude and draw up a deal. And if there is “nothing of the kind” in the contract - do not blame me. In the opinion of many domestic military experts, it would not be reasonable to pass on secrets of such a level to a country conducting more than active military-technical cooperation with the same Ukraine (not to mention the fact that it is still a member of NATO). Wanted to protect your sky? You are welcome. Still need air defense systems? Buy it! All honestly.

Nevertheless, the comments of some Turkish citizens under the publication mentioned above are glowing with anger: “There is deception everywhere! And the Russians also furnished us ... ”,“ Russia and Putin are deceivers, never keep their promises! ”,“ There was nothing to get into the same den with the bear! ” Separately, we can distinguish those who believe that the air defense system (no worse than the "Triumph") "must be done for a long time by ourselves." And they even express the hope that local inquisitive minds will “solve the mystery” and create some kind of Turkish version of the S-500. At the same time, however, there is a very realistic clarification: “We just need to understand how this is done” ... The most reasonable comments are made by those residents of Turkey who claim to fully support the government, which went to this deal despite the pressure exerted on it: “ What they wanted, they got it, "" We may soon need these systems, it’s good that there is, "and so on.

As for me, the user by the name of Musa spoke best of all, quite rightly remarking that no one would “give your own bread” to anyone “live healthy”. As you can see, a certain number of Turks did not give in to emotions, but showed common sense and understanding. Perhaps they just remembered the “allies” from Washington, who for many years did not give Ankara not only any “technologies”, but also the SAM itself, escaping with endless promises.
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  1. Strashila 27 January 2020 16: 02 New
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    “The Turkish question is to Russia:“ The S-400 air defense systems were handed over, but where are the technologies? ”", And for what they do not understand their design approach.
    After familiarization, they will have a technological shock that the Americans, after studying the MIG-25 in Japan, how it can fly.
    1. Mavrikiy 27 January 2020 16: 21 New
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      Well, the Turks are cooperating with Svidomo, they will figure it out. and help establish the release of the S-400 to the Turks, and they won’t hurt themselves. Transfer unique technologies (the only ones in the world) to NATO members - an aggressive bloc, and even with US nuclear weapons at bases? There will be not only "money in the morning, chairs in the evening", but also "keys to the apartment where the money is", will not be enough. request
      1. Strashila 27 January 2020 16: 31 New
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        why all this pessimism, the USSR, and Russia officially sold technology to China and India, but they did not achieve the quality with the technology of the country of the developer.
        As the Chinese said, it’s not enough to buy technology, it is necessary to recreate the entire production chain, and this is not so simple, in fact, not realistic.
        1. Range 27 January 2020 23: 19 New
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          Somehow I had a chance to communicate with the former director of the defense plant in Slovakia, which produced armored personnel carriers. So after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, they sold both the plant and technology to the Indians. But the Indians did not succeed. The output was only crap, not armored personnel carriers. So knowledge of technology does not always solve problems; there are a lot of small “new anuses” in technology. Like Uncle Vasya, or Uncle Petya, who cannot be replaced by more than one technology. Somewhere like that. hi
        2. sgrabik 28 January 2020 09: 16 New
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          These technologies can also get to third countries, for example, in the USA, there they will certainly sort it out and be able to find an antidote against our complexes, these are technologies that are critical for our defense industry that should not be sold, or transferred to someone !!!
          1. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 22 New
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            Quote: sgrabik
            for example in the USA, there they’ll certainly figure it out

            Are you from a sect ??? wassat
      2. Alexander Suvorov 27 January 2020 16: 33 New
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        Well, I believe that what any data Americans on our "esk" have. In Greece, there is an S-300, now Turkey has an S-400, plus they pulled out all the documentation they could from the skaklov. But this is unlikely to help them.
        But the fact that the Turks wanted technology, so Wishlist will break. Hindus also want a lot of things. By the way, the Indians got technology on the T-90, so how did it help them?
        1. Strashila 27 January 2020 19: 22 New
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          Americans S-300V received officially back in the 90s from Russia what actually to do after the “Desert Storm”, then there were Belarusian, Ukrainian, Greek
          found in net in one of the articles on the subject of S-300
          “Patriot” was inferior to our system in a number of other indicators. For example, the S-300V was almost 2 times smaller than the American system in the number of combat components, in terms of the power of combat units it exceeded the "American" by 7 times, and in the area of ​​the defended territory by 3 times ...
          it’s just the economics of war
          more than 25 years have passed !!!, the Americans have not changed anything in their systems over the years, good examples of the use of these complexes by the Saudis against Hussite missiles.
      3. user1212 27 January 2020 16: 55 New
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Well, the Turks are cooperating with Svidomo, they will figure it out. and help establish the release of S-400 to the Turks, and they won’t hurt themselves

        Understand what? How to establish steel industry, for example, industry? What are Svidomo's successes in setting up the steel industry in Svidomstan ??? None? So how will they help? The budget to cut their wise men in Turkey is enough, non-seasoned guests are not needed for this
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Transmit unique technology

        And what technologies can actually be transferred? The maximum technological process of screwdriver rocket assembly from finished components. It is quite possible the Turks will even establish production. But Russia, as a monopolist in the market of finished components for C400, will not cause much loss. On the contrary, it will increase revenues.
        The Americans did not pull RD180 (it was necessary to build entire industries from scratch, it turned out to be cheaper to buy finished products, or to develop their own engine, taking into account the peculiarities of their industry), even the Chinese in AL-31F could not, they want to continue. It doesn’t work out right away. This is not a flash drive with a flashlight
        1. Dude 28 January 2020 02: 51 New
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          Understand what? How to establish steel industry, for example, industry? What are Svidomo's successes in setting up the steel industry in Svidomstan ??? None?

          In fairness, in Ukraine, the metallurgical industry - God forbid everyone! 2/3 Donbass, Zaporozhye, Kryvyi Rih, Azov, Dnieper ... So here you are - with your finger to the sky. negative
          Another thing is that one steelmaking is not enough ...
          1. user1212 28 January 2020 06: 10 New
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            Quote: Dude
            In fairness, in Ukraine, the metallurgical industry - God forbid everyone! 2/3 of Donbass, Zaporozhye, Kryvyi Rih, Azov, Dnieper ... So here you are - with your finger to the sky

            Yah. And what does modern Ukraine have to do with its creation? What of all this industry was built during the years of “non-blocking”? Who in modern Ukraine can design and build a steel plant, and not just cast iron, but high alloy steels with the appropriate hardening technology? (the steel industry is just an example, it is certainly not enough, but without it it would not be possible to create a combustion chamber of a rocket engine)
            1. Dude 28 January 2020 08: 48 New
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              not just cast iron, but high-alloy steels with appropriate hardening technology
              I am not an expert in this field, but I remember from school that metallurgy in Ukraine was a strong point of industry (a search on the network confirms that not all competencies in this area are lost), so that the non-brothers are able not only to cast iron. Do not think that Ukraine is a banana republic, with an industrial and scientific complex at the level of Guinea-Conakry, this is not so. So there are experts there. Of course, the metallurgical industry is a legacy of the USSR, as is the case with us, by the way, but what does it change?
              Once again, I should not assume that Ukrainians are some kind of Papuans.
              1. sgrabik 28 January 2020 10: 07 New
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                That's the whole point that metallurgy in Ukraine was once a strong point of industry, now the situation is somewhat different !!!
              2. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 28 New
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                Quote: Dude
                that metallurgy in Ukraine was a strong point of industry

                the keyword was !!! wassat
                Quote: Dude
                It is not worth considering that Ukrainians are some kind of Papuans.

                what you do not follow what is going on in the country since 2014 ???? recourse not all Papuans are capable of this !!! request
          2. sgrabik 28 January 2020 09: 23 New
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            Well, Donbass does not need to be considered Ukraine, it is a region lost to them, at least for now, you better tell me where all this Ukrainian metal is sold, maybe Europe buys it in large quantities, or maybe America ???
            1. Dude 28 January 2020 09: 35 New
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              Quote: sgrabik
              Well, Donbass does not need to be considered Ukraine, it is a region lost to them, at least for now, you better tell me where this Ukrainian metal is sold, maybe Europe buys it in large quantities, or maybe America ???

              I absolutely correctly wrote not Donbass, but exactly
              2/3 of Donbass
              which, unfortunately, are currently controlled by Ukraine.
              I have no idea where Ukraine exports metal. And what does this have to the essence of the issue under discussion?
              1. sgrabik 28 January 2020 09: 49 New
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                Well, if Ukrainian metal is almost not exported anywhere, and the Ukrainian economy is rapidly stagnating, then we ask ourselves a reasonable question, what resources the Ukrainian metallurgical industry can have, because any economist will tell you that if there are not enough sales markets, then produce surplus products to a warehouse without guaranteed quick implementation - at a loss, and in metallurgy if you shut down a blast furnace, it is very difficult and economically expensive to put it back into operation, so think those what does it matter to the heart of the matter !!!
                1. Dude 28 January 2020 14: 06 New
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                  ... if the blast furnace is muffled, then it is very difficult and economically expensive to put it back into operation, so think about what it matters to the essence of the issue !!!
                  The question was whether Ukraine has certain competencies and specialists in metallurgy. My opinion is yes, it has, because she inherited from the USSR a powerful industrial cluster and a scientific school. That this Soviet legacy is disappearing is another matter. But to say that Ukrainian metallurgy does not exist is an exaggeration. The Soviet reserve was so enormous that even for 30 years they could not fall in love with everything.
                  Well, if Ukrainian metal is almost never exported
                  Unfortunately, I do not have detailed information about the structure of Ukrainian metal exports. If you have these data, and you share them, I will be grateful. hi Although, the decline in exports in metallurgy in 2019 by ~ 10%, of course, speaks for itself, degradation in the industry is obvious.
                  1. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 46 New
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                    In 2017, for the first time since independence, Ukraine flew out of the top 10 countries that are the largest steel producers in the world. The prospects for Ukrainian metallurgy are highly pessimistic by experts.
                    https://reddevol.com/articles/metallurgiya_ukrainyi_medlenno_umiraet


                    Ukraine's foreign trade in 2019: Chinese breakthrough
                    How did Ukraine manage to increase exports? First of all, it is grain and iron ore, whose sales abroad in January-October increased by 39,3% and 25,8%, respectively. Oilseed exports increased by 34,1%, and sunflower oil grew by 4,1%. Negative dynamics is observed in ferrous metals (–10,2%), products from them (–6,6%), engineering products (–2,2%) and electric machines (–4,6%).

                    In January-November, the export of Ukrainian iron ore in physical terms increased by 8,23% (up to 36,6 million tons). In money for 11 months, exports rose to $ 318,2 million, which is associated with rising world prices. In the country, ore is in less demand. Due to the unfavorable global situation, as well as the position of the NBU, which allows the hryvnia to quickly strengthen, sales of domestic metal products abroad are gradually declining.

                    https://odnarodyna.org/content/vneshnyaya-torgovlya-ukrainy-v-2019-godu-kitayskiy-proryv
          3. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 26 New
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            Quote: Dude
            God forbid everyone!

            Smara what everyone !!! lol
      4. NEXUS 27 January 2020 17: 12 New
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        those will quite understand. and help establish the release of the S-400 to the Turks, and they won’t hurt themselves.

        Sure? repeat
        1. Mavrikiy 27 January 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          Sure?

          Doubt? repeat Design Bureau "South" is far from an ordinary bureau. They bombed, stole, sold out, but Svidomo, and "attached to the house" is enough.
          1. NEXUS 27 January 2020 18: 21 New
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            Quote: Mavrikiy
            They bombed, stole, sold out, but Svidomo, and "attached to the house" is enough.

            If it were all so simple, then mattresses would have long ago created such a system not inferior to Triumph. However, there, just as Patriot was, it remained in comparison with the S-400, this system is hopelessly outdated.
            Or do you want to say that there are fewer experts in the USA and designers, as well as an industrial base, than in Ukraine?
          2. Alexey LK 28 January 2020 01: 50 New
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            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Doubt it? Design Bureau "South" is far from an ordinary bureau. They bombed, stole, sold out, but Svidomo, and "attached to the house" is enough.

            So you can not evaluate - who made the sword, does not automatically receive the ability to make a shield, and something else in principle. You do not confuse it with party leaders who hold party meetings at the rocket plant today, and tomorrow, if they send them, they will hold the same meetings at BAM or Baikonur ... If you mention anyone, then the plant should be named after him. Artyom in Kiev - R-27 air-to-air missiles were made there, for example. This is closer to the topic, but the problem is that SAMs are not only missiles themselves. Recently there was a report that the Hussites in Yemen had adapted just the R-27 to launch from a makeshift launcher and seemed to have shot down some kind of drone. So the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not done this yet, although there is an urgent need for re-equipment of air defense systems — fresh missiles have not been purchased for a long time, there are no modernizations except the very old S-125 and S-200, as far as I know. I think that at least as long as the warranty period lasts, they won’t let anyone in - they’ll come out sideways, but they bought it on comfortable terms, on credit! Another thing is that the technologies are different - say, a wheeled chassis - why not master production in Turkey? Only in this case is it more correct to talk about economic considerations (part of the money paid will remain in the Turkish economy), but not about the transfer of strategic technologies.
          3. sgrabik 28 January 2020 09: 31 New
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            Yuzhnoye Design Bureau has never in its entire history been engaged in air defense and missile defense systems and systems, or do you think that you can start from absolute zero and quickly create something really worthwhile in this direction, in no way inferior in its performance characteristics to the best world standards, in my opinion this is not serious !!!
        2. Krasnoyarsk 27 January 2020 18: 10 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          Sure?

          Yes! As soon as - = local inquisitive minds "solve the mystery" and create some kind of Turkish version of the S-500. At the same time, the truth is there is a very realistic clarification: “You just need to understand how this is done” ... = And then they cook up the S-600, the S-700. And why? The main thing is to "understand how this is done" wassat wassat
      5. Zabvo 27 January 2020 18: 33 New
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        It’s notable that you’ve got minuses, people without brains. Sometimes I am struck by the thinking of some individuals: "They don’t understand the algorithms of the system."
      6. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 14 New
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Well, the Turks are cooperating with Svidomo, they will figure it out. and will help establish the release of the S-400 to the Turks, and they won’t offend themselves.

        what Do not exaggerate their capabilities and mental abilities ... without a connection with Russia, they are rapidly degrading, as events after 2014 showed !!! and you - "... they’ll quite figure it out ...." !!! request laughing
    2. PavelM 27 January 2020 18: 32 New
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      "The Turkish question to Russia:" S-400 air defense missile systems were transferred, but where are the technologies? ""

      Can anyone explain what technologies Turkey transferred to Russia?
      1. Grandfather Crimea 27 January 2020 18: 59 New
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        An interesting question, but now spears are breaking over another question)))). How many publications, conversations, but nowhere and no one talked about technology))))) It was about the product. This is the post-traumatic hysteria of the affected Turks after the earthquake))))
        1. aszzz888 28 January 2020 00: 52 New
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          Grandfather of Crimea Yesterday, 18:59
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          An interesting question, but now spears are breaking over another question)))). How many publications, conversations, but nowhere and no one talked about technology))))) It was about the product. This is the post-traumatic hysteria of the affected Turks after the earthquake))))
          Turks want to eat fish too, and ... they ask for carrots. I suppose we are not so naive as to take the lead of some unscrupulous. Although this is such a policy: "- Uncle, give 10 cents, eh?
          Uncle, give me 10 kopecks, I tell you.Can I give you another key to the apartment,
          where is the money?
          Nah ... "
        2. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 52 New
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          Quote: Grandfather Crimea
          .How many publications, conversations, but nowhere and no one talked about technology)))))

          maybe the Turks thought that Russia was isolated, and for the sake of selling these goats complexes will transfer technology? !!! wassat request
    3. Retro paladin 27 January 2020 20: 02 New
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      and they’re for them, they don’t understand our approach to design.

      Sledgehammer, electrical tape (necessarily blue) and such and such a mother? laughing
    4. YOUR 28 January 2020 03: 49 New
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      There is nothing special about technology. Well, there are multilayer boards, there are headlights, unfortunately Russia is not in the forefront in these technologies. The Chinese got the S-300 until it was disassembled and the screw was turned out to be an analog called the HQ-9 SAM. I focus on the word analog. Technically, it seems like they did everything and the computers supplied the appropriate and elemental support, but not enough. Because there is something else - programming, algorithms. And it’s more difficult with them, try to figure out what kind of program is recorded and how it is executed.
  2. Ravil_Asnafovich 27 January 2020 16: 03 New
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    Her guys, a machine gun, I won’t give you.
    1. aszzz888 28 January 2020 00: 45 New
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      Ravil_Asnafovich (R) Yesterday, 16:03
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      Her guys, a machine gun, I won’t give you.
      "Machine gun" then just gave. We will not give the docks on which they developed the "machine gun". wink
  3. Same lech 27 January 2020 16: 05 New
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    The Turks demand military technology for free ... the Indians there ... even Old Man Lukashenko and he demands resources from Russia for a freebie ... are we like a cash cow or something ... give them, give them this.
  4. Loess 27 January 2020 16: 05 New
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    And how many “copies” were broken about technology transfer, and it’s like it ...
    1. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 55 New
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      Quote: Less
      And how many “copies” were broken about technology transfer, and it’s like it ...

      someone blurted out that, they say, with the transfer of technology, and away we go !!! request laughing
  5. cherkas.oe 27 January 2020 16: 13 New
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    It is clear that this wave was not just raised, it is only interesting who and why? If in order to put pressure on Russia in some matters regarding Syria, then this is one thing, but if it is against the Sultan, I’m sorry, then again he needs to think about another “purge”.
    1. Edik 27 January 2020 17: 23 New
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      Quote: cherkas.oe
      and if it is against the Sultan ju-ju,

      Definitely the US is invading, there they are full of agents of influence.
      1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 27 January 2020 18: 39 New
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        No matter how it turns out, this is an informational preparation of a plausible excuse on the part of the Turkish leadership for a decision to abandon the C400 in order to return to the F35 program.
    2. helmi8 27 January 2020 17: 27 New
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      Quote: cherkas.oe
      It is clear that this wave was not just raised, it is only interesting who and why?

      The fifth column is Turkey and the fifth column. Just to remind myself, to promote, to throw an occasion for indignation of the people who are not at all aware of the supply agreement ... And the sediment will remain ...
    3. Nyrobsky 27 January 2020 20: 24 New
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      It’s clear that this wave was not just raised, I wonder only who and why?
      Well, because in light of recent events, several countries, including India, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, despite the screeching of mattresses, have expressed their interest in acquiring the S-400. There is someone to wave the wave. And then such a presentation, and even from the side of the buyer, they supposedly deceived. It is clearly aimed at potentially interested in buying doubting the seller’s cleanliness.
  6. kiborg 27 January 2020 16: 22 New
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    NPPs in Akkuyu are being built with Rosatom credit money, which will be repulsed after 30 years. This is not enough for them .. They wanted to free then and all the developments in air defense, which cost the USSR billions .. The East is a delicate matter.
    1. Nikolai Grek 30 January 2020 01: 57 New
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      East is a delicate matter.

      where it is thin, there it breaks !!! wassat
  7. Fregate 27 January 2020 16: 25 New
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    As the saying goes, "better to see once than hear a hundred times." You need to see the supply contract, what is written there. Everything else is "boltology."
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  8. cloud catcher 27 January 2020 16: 37 New
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    With joy, but to members of a non-friendly NATO bloc, technologies are not transferred or sold. Come out - we will discuss ...
  9. Aliken 27 January 2020 16: 47 New
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    It is not clear if the agreement did not provide for the transfer of technology, which is what we are talking about. With the same success, you can demand the transfer of air defense systems for free.
  10. Ros 56 27 January 2020 16: 54 New
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    The stupid question, it was about the sale of S-400 systems and their use, and not about the technologies for their production. Turks read carefully the contract.
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    3vs 27 January 2020 16: 55 New
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    “The S-400 air defense systems were transferred, but where are the technologies?”

    What did someone promise?
    1. novel66 27 January 2020 17: 09 New
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      "And where is the technology?"

      Of course, the technologists!
  12. knn54 27 January 2020 16: 57 New
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    With such "friends" and enemies do not:
    - Turkish militants kill the Russian military in Syria;
    -in Libya on opposite sides of the "barricades";
    -Turkey is glad to see Georgia in NATO;
    - "dirty tricks" in Abkhazia;
    - the desire to integrate the complex into the NATO air defense system.
    Etc
    By the way. Turks promised that there will be no "integration"!
  13. Prisoner 27 January 2020 17: 16 New
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    The Turkish question to Russia: “The S-400 air defense systems were transferred, but where are the technologies?” (C) The Russian response to Turkey: in Karaganda. laughing
    1. helmi8 27 January 2020 17: 30 New
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      Quote: Captive
      Turkey's Russian answer: in Karaganda.

      It may be like this: “You are at a muzzle, buy a tractor for yourself, and shoot yourself for change!” ©
  14. ser56 27 January 2020 17: 20 New
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    author as a child, yet written request :
    "the inhabitants of the country now experiencing the effects of a large-scale earthquake"
    to divert people over, to direct the negativity - this is what they are doing, and most certainly the US intelligence ... hi
  15. Lekz 27 January 2020 17: 38 New
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    A dry ration will not take?
  16. rocket757 27 January 2020 17: 42 New
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    Nothing new. The media often claim the right to be the ultimate truth.
    "Fifth power" no matter how.
  17. PavelM 27 January 2020 18: 29 New
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    "The Turkish question to Russia:" S-400 air defense missile systems were transferred, but where are the technologies? ""

    Can anyone explain what technologies Turkey transferred to Russia?
  18. Aviator_ 27 January 2020 18: 59 New
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    Strange statement of the question. Officially, the Turks received the system. None of the officials expressed any displeasure. The text of the contract, of course, no one has seen (and will not see). And then some magazine magazine spoils the air, and the discussion begins. What is there to discuss - if the contract is violated, officials say this, and if they are silent - then this is nothing more than air spoiled by the magazine, why talk about it?
    1. sgrabik 28 January 2020 10: 01 New
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      I agree that the fact that some Turkish media speak and write completely inadequate and untrue reports and materials does not mean at all that this is the official position of the Turkish leadership !!!
  19. Zaurbek 27 January 2020 19: 44 New
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    It is necessary in these things to take an example from the Americans .... it is quite possible to localize in C400 trucks, diesel generators, cables, kungs .... and all that. And this is not the easiest task.
  20. aszzz888 28 January 2020 00: 43 New
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    It turns out that the Turkish Defense Ministry sacredly believes that they will nevertheless share with them the most advanced and secret developments of the domestic defense industry? Therefore, they ask questions from the series: "And where are the technologies?"
    The Turks know everything perfectly. Provocations on the part of some tour media are commonplace (they also have enough "rains", "echoes ...", etc. They will whine, grants will work, and in the mud for a while.
  21. Shuttle 28 January 2020 04: 16 New
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    Turks to Turks strife. There is a government that, despite the crazy antics of the Turkoman, to put it mildly, the difficult situation with Syria, in fact a civil war in the country (the Kurds) were able to agree with the Russians on a purely commercial military supply.
    And there is a spectrum of people who are wonderful on their heads, from all-ringleaders to the cheers of the patriots of the Great Port pouring. This is normal. The main thing is that in the Turkish government there are people, though not always friendly to us, but always glad for their country. You can talk about such things and sometimes negotiate. And when, instead of a significant part of the government, a country has a branch of a completely different country, then nothing will come to an agreement with them.
  22. sgrabik 28 January 2020 09: 06 New
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    There can be no talk of transferring any kind of technology to the Turks, it is a country with unpredictable ambitions, a member of the NATO bloc that is hostile to us, and the Turks still have not recognized the Russian Federation as Russia, which kind of secret technology can be discussed here, even if they don’t even dream about it !!!
  23. vladnp 28 January 2020 17: 55 New
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    As far as I know, the Turks have not yet paid for the S-400. And all the same, give them the technology.