Parachutes are being tested in Russia for survival when landing on water


The new device is a quick-release carbine, which allows you to quickly get rid of the dome after landing on a water surface. The development is intended for the Russian military. Now they are passing her tests.


About this news agency TASS learned from the Director General of the Research Institute of Parachute Engineering Andrei Rozhkov. The scientific institution headed by him is part of the Technodinamika holding, which is part of the Rostec state corporation.

Advanced carabiners allow the paratrooper to quickly get rid of the suspension system and the canopy if it lands in the water during landing. Thus, he will not drown and will escape death.

Rozhkov told reporters the following:

At the moment, several design options for carbines have been developed that go through a series of comprehensive tests.

At the same time, the general director added that when developing carbines, not only today's requirements were taken into account, but also those that may arise in the future, including an increase in weight with a payload.

Strength tests of carbines are carried out in conditions of ultra-low and ultra-high temperatures, almost one hundred percent humidity, as well as dust, dirt, sand. In addition, during the tests shock loads are artificially created that can occur in practice in extreme and even emergency situations.

The improvement of the parachute safety system was caused by an accident that occurred last June at the Old Crimea training ground. Then the two paratroopers drowned when landing in a pond. The commission found that they could not quickly get rid of parachutes.
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  1. Observer2014 25 January 2020 11: 18 New
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    The echo of the tragedy a couple of years ago with the paratroopers brought into the river. Plus, the increase in mass, as indicated in the article, this probably indicates the use of exoskeletons by fighters in the near future. A very cool and necessary development. hi
    1. rich 25 January 2020 11: 24 New
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      Echo of the tragedy a couple of years ago

      An echo of last year's tragedy: In June 2019, during a training parachute jump at the Old Crimea training ground, two Airborne troops fell into the pond and drowned. According to the conclusions of the commission, they could not timely get rid of the parachute's suspension system.
      1. Observer2014 25 January 2020 11: 35 New
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        Quote: Rich
        Echo of the tragedy a couple of years ago

        An echo of last year's tragedy: In June 2019, during a training parachute jump at the Old Crimea training ground, two Airborne troops fell into the pond and drowned. According to the conclusions of the commission, they could not timely get rid of the parachute's suspension system.

        On November 24, 2017, the Kuban. Three paratroopers drowned in the river. And how many such tragedies were there before? About which we were not told. However, this does not change the essence of my first comment.
        1. krot 25 January 2020 12: 45 New
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          Well, yes, it doesn’t matter when a jump with a poorly controlled "dome" and falling into the water, practically guaranteed death. sad
          1. Doliva63 25 January 2020 16: 51 New
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            Quote: krot
            Well, yes, it doesn’t matter when a jump with a poorly controlled "dome" and falling into the water, practically guaranteed death. sad

            Dome control here what side? And if you need it in the water? A practically guaranteed death comes from the lack of education of personnel. And no "carabiner" or handling can help. By the way, in blessed times, water just jumped first on the "Oak", and only then on the managed ones.
            1. krot 25 January 2020 17: 20 New
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              Quote: Doliva63
              Dome control here what side?

              The most direct when the paratrooper flies into the water and can not change the trajectory.

              A virtually guaranteed death - from the lack of education of personnel

              Your training seems to be available ..
              1. Doliva63 25 January 2020 18: 27 New
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                Quote: krot
                Quote: Doliva63
                Dome control here what side?

                The most direct when the paratrooper flies into the water and can not change the trajectory.

                A virtually guaranteed death - from the lack of education of personnel

                Your training seems to be available ..

                The paratrooper must be able to splash down. Regardless of the type of parachute. I meant that. And yes, I had complete order with the training when I was an instructor in airborne training in reconnaissance. Well, and remember something since drinks
                1. krot 26 January 2020 06: 31 New
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                  The paratrooper must be able to splash down

                  All abnormal situations were considered and worked out thoroughly. As now I will not say

                  All parachutists, without exception, are taught to land on water (in theory, of course), in the section for special cases.

                  You are all right! In theory, they must teach this. But in reality, everything is a little different than in the training manual. And the usual landing force, although the "elite" of the army, but still ordinary troops, and not special forces and not intelligence. And they don’t get skills there in practical terms, when you get involved in training, and an instructor is waiting for you in the water, and if that helps. Just a theory. (special cases) So they would give everyone a wing, instead of the D6 and its modifications. But they don’t give it! Because ordinary soldiers, and not special naz.
                  And here lies the whole clue:
                  with weapons and equipment, without a life jacket, not survive, but certain death. No locks will help.
            2. ltc35 25 January 2020 19: 46 New
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              drinks That's right. Waterlogging was part of our training at every pre-jump preparation that took place before each jump. All abnormal situations were considered and worked out thoroughly. As now I will not say this. I do not know.
          2. orionvitt 25 January 2020 19: 01 New
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            Quote: krot
            jump with a poorly controlled "dome" and falling into the water, almost guaranteed death

            All parachutists, without exception, are taught to land on water (in theory, of course), in the section for special cases. (When approaching the water surface, it is more convenient to "sit" in the suspension system, unfasten and throw out the reserve, unfasten the chest bridge, unfasten the leg girths. At a height of about two meters above the water, "slip" out of the suspension system, dive and swim against the wind, so as not to get entangled in slings and not get under the dome). We were also taught with D-5 parachutes. But what is simple in theory, hard in practice. The question is, why reinvent castles, if they have been invented long ago.
            True, earlier, on landing parachutes, there were no such systems, only on sports ones. I agree on one thing, when landing on water (well, when you are light, you can swim out), with weapons and equipment, without a life jacket, you cannot survive, but certain death. No locks will help. media = https: //aviatus.ru/parachuting/parachutes/d-1-5u/using_lock_osk/
            1. Zoldat_A 26 January 2020 08: 17 New
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              Quote: orionvitt
              The question is, why reinvent castles, if they have been invented long ago.

              To cut the extra millions on the "development".
              30 years ago we jumped with such locks on the D-6. And the water as well. And nothing. And if someone there is "confused" - then this is the fault of the "confused".

              A few years ago there was news that the boy in the army was "given a camouflage suit not in size" and when he threw a grenade (which was not said) he dropped it in his sleeve. How it was - I do not know, but the boy was left without hands and the "Committee of Soldiers' Mothers" am demanded money from the Ministry of Defense. So who is to blame - the manufacturer of camouflage uniforms, the manufacturer of pomegranates, ensign, who did not select the “right” size or the curved-headed boob, who almost killed himself and those who were nearby?
        2. Free wind 25 January 2020 13: 09 New
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          Did any of them know how to swim? For example, I’m swimming pretty well now, I used to swim perfectly, but there are 20 percent like me, no more, 40 percent can swim a bit around the dog. but the rest they don’t know how to swim at all, and at least he’ll drown any kind of carbine for him. But nobody is going to teach swimming conscripts and contract soldiers.
          1. tlauicol 25 January 2020 13: 28 New
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            In winter, with unloading, in a helmet, with a machine gun in ice water, this is not in swimming trunks in the summer. Drown
            1. Free wind 25 January 2020 14: 47 New
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              Drowned in the summer.
            2. Avior 25 January 2020 20: 34 New
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              Logically, there should be at least a minimum life-saving vest when it enters the water, so as to maintain at least partially on the water.
          2. Doliva63 25 January 2020 17: 00 New
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            Quote: Free Wind
            Did any of them know how to swim? For example, I’m swimming pretty well now, I used to swim perfectly, but there are 20 percent like me, no more, 40 percent can swim a bit around the dog. but the rest they don’t know how to swim at all, and at least he’ll drown any kind of carbine for him. But nobody is going to teach swimming conscripts and contract soldiers.

            At other times, there were freelance swimming instructors. We have - in each company were. Appointed by order in part. The order also determined the schedule of classes in the outdoor pool, safety measures, a doctor, etc. First, swimming without weapons, then with weapons. According to the results - offset, only then jumps (including water).
          3. orionvitt 25 January 2020 19: 09 New
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            Quote: Free Wind
            For example, I’m swimming pretty well now, I used to swim perfectly, but there are 20 percent like me, no more, 40 percent can swim a bit around the dog. but the rest do not know how to swim,

            Nonsense. Among my friends, people who do not know how to swim (men at least), there is no word at all. Maybe there are people like that somewhere in Mongolia, in the desert, or in the far north. But in the middle lane and in the south, such units. The question is different, in adverse circumstances, everyone is drowning. And the swimmers and the rest.
          4. Zoldat_A 26 January 2020 08: 25 New
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            Quote: Free Wind
            For example, I’m swimming pretty well now, I used to swim perfectly, but there are 20 percent like me, no more, 40 percent can swim a bit around the dog. but the rest they don’t know how to swim at all, and at least he’ll drown any kind of carbine for him.

            Human in principle cannot drown. The buoyancy of the living human body is positive. For example, if I DO NOT completely move in the water, I plunge vertically to the bridge of the nose.
            Learning to swim - yes, the water itself holds. Move your legs and feet and swim.

            I myself am swimming well, although I have never gone in for sports like swimming. At the age of 20, he crossed the Volga round trip three times (approximately, excluding drift over the course, about 4 km). Now in the pool two or three times a week, two sessions (one - 45 minutes. I’m not enough)
    2. Zoldat_A 26 January 2020 08: 02 New
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      Quote: Observer2014
      Very cool and necessary development.

      Maybe the right one.
      Only 30 years ago, without any "development" from D-6, we jumped into the water - and nothing, "quick disconnect" was not required. And nobody in the dome-slings was not tangled. Maybe the landing was different?

      The "entangled" ones are to blame for the "entangled" tragedies. And there is nothing to blame for and spend millions on the development of "quick-release carbines."
      By golly, as in the case of the Americans developing a fountain pen that writes in zero gravity despite the fact that ours were marked with a pencil.
  2. minus 25 January 2020 11: 21 New
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    It can be quickly released, but the dome can still cover and interfere ... Isn’t it easier to integrate an automatic inflatable buoyancy vest with large buoyancy?
    1. Zoldat_A 26 January 2020 08: 06 New
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      Quote: Minus
      It can be freed quickly, but the dome can still cover and interfere ... And it’s not easier than automatic large buoyancy vest integrate?

      Rescue boat. With a resuscitation team. And integrate all this into a parachute. But didn’t you learn to dive and swim under water from under the dome of these mountain paratroopers?
  3. knn54 25 January 2020 11: 24 New
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    What if tropical rain?
    1. Slavs 25 January 2020 13: 12 New
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      Do you think that landing is carried out under any weather conditions?
      1. Zoldat_A 26 January 2020 08: 08 New
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        Quote: Slavs
        Do you think that landing is carried out under any weather conditions?

        That's the landing. soldier
  4. rocket757 25 January 2020 11: 24 New
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    In all we need skill, training, TRAINING!
    Quality training will not replace ANYTHING!
    1. minus 25 January 2020 12: 05 New
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      That round, that the square dome when landing on the water is almost a guaranteed death. And on the wing, few of the rank and file can ... Unfortunately, the systems that are discussed in the article are not for mass use. And about carbines only the story is foolish ... They are already so strong ... Distraction from the topic, no more.
      1. rocket757 25 January 2020 12: 37 New
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        As if the foreman / instructor did not say that when splashing, the parachute must be detached in advance (if this is provided for by the design of the parachute), the fighter only realizes this after the eleventh landing on the water .... if it is safe, after previous touchdowns.
        1. Pete mitchell 25 January 2020 14: 27 New
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          Who is familiar with the situation: are they generally really thrown into the water?
          Pilots jump on water for training
          1. alexmach 25 January 2020 15: 47 New
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            Paratroopers? Massively? No, of course. They don’t intentionally throw either water or dense forest, but accidents happen.
            1. Pete mitchell 25 January 2020 16: 14 New
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              We were thrown specially into the water, after the first course. Survival course with all sorts of miracles and 'rides'. Well, then who was lucky
          2. orionvitt 25 January 2020 19: 17 New
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            I remember at parachute courses in DOSSAF, the instructor mentioned shots from a movie about partisans. When paratroopers were behind enemy lines, they landed on the lake, also at night. He said that it was cool, he would never have gone for it. Although the most under 5000 jumps.
      2. K-36 25 January 2020 15: 02 New
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        Eugene (Minus), ek you skidded ... "What is round, what is the square dome when landing on the water, almost a guaranteed death"

        I, for example, once jumped 20 times into the water. And with round domes, and with "wings". As you can see, alive and well. lol What do you want! drinks
        hi
        1. Pete mitchell 25 January 2020 16: 16 New
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          Quote: K-36
          20 times jumped into the water.

          hi develop doubts: isn’t it just for nothing?
          1. K-36 25 January 2020 16: 52 New
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            develop doubts: nick is not just?

            Yes, the nickname is purely professional. The whole service from 1984 to the beginning of the 2000s - These are PS and PDS, and since 1988. I cooked us. PS and PDS of aviation units. Although sometimes officers of other types and branches of the army came across.
            hi
            1. Pete mitchell 25 January 2020 17: 21 New
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              Quote: K-36
              nickname is purely professional.

              Respect. Like all pilots, if there is an opportunity to jump off, I will choose to abstain. recourse although he started to jump to college yet winked
      3. Doliva63 25 January 2020 17: 25 New
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        Quote: Minus
        That round, that the square dome when landing on the water is almost a guaranteed death. And on the wing, few of the rank and file can ... Unfortunately, the systems that are discussed in the article are not for mass use. And about carbines only the story is foolish ... They are already so strong ... Distraction from the topic, no more.

        Afiget! laughing And the men do not even know! (Or whatever it was in the advertisement, I forgot) Nothing that a jump into the water is included in the training program for l / s? Another thing is how this program is executed. But the roundness / squareness of the dome is not about anything. And the most difficult jump is not at all water, if that.
  5. tlauicol 25 January 2020 11: 41 New
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    Will not help. Well, you dropped the dome - there will be a reserve parachute, weapons, pea jacket, etc. A lot of things
    1. minus 25 January 2020 11: 50 New
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      Here it is ... Only a rescue system with great positive buoyancy!:!
    2. K-36 25 January 2020 15: 22 New
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      Ivan (tlauikol), you are not quite in the topic. The fact is that the "reserve" when it enters the water has positive buoyancy. A couple of minutes yes until it gets completely wet. And these minutes are enough to emerge to the surface away from the dome panel. True, before this, competent training is needed on specially equipped simulators.
      As an MS on parachuting, I can unequivocally assert that the lack of education is to blame for the majority of the tragic outcomes. Although I’m ready to admit that there are such circumstances that training cannot help. Something like this.
      hi
      1. tlauicol 25 January 2020 16: 06 New
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        buoyancy of the spare wheel can play a cruel joke - instead of going into the depths and emerging aside, you will quickly emerge and become confused. But you won’t swim with junk for a long time. We were taught to get rid of the whole system when it falls into the water - not before!
        and you in full gear jumped into the water?
        1. K-36 25 January 2020 16: 41 New
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          Ivan (tlauikol), for this post I will support you with both hands. The fact is that people of different professions jump on the water (and sometimes abnormally fall, like "hens in the pluck"). These are astronauts, and paratroopers, and pilots, and SSO -shniks, and DOSAAF -tsy. And it’s very obvious that they’ve got "splash instructions" should be different! yes For everything very much depends on the equipment: this is the type of parachute, and the presence (or absence) of locks for uncoupling the parachute, the presence (or absence) of additional cargo (container or weapon), etc. It is quite obvious that the specific algorithm of actions for such reducers should be purely specific. Perhaps, there is only one universal rule: to emerge away from the surface of a dome that has fallen on water.
          And yes, I completely agree with you that the most difficult jump into the water is a soldier’s jump in full landing gear. For the sake of truth, I’ll note that the MTRs are also jumping with weapons (which often clearly exceed the airborne set), but the MTRs are clearly not taking “first timers”. There everyone jumps on the “wings” and has more than one hundred jumps. yes
          hi
        2. Doliva63 25 January 2020 17: 45 New
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          Quote: Tlauicol
          buoyancy of the spare wheel can play a cruel joke - instead of going into the depths and emerging aside, you will quickly emerge and become confused. But you won’t swim with junk for a long time. We were taught to get rid of the whole system when it falls into the water - not before!
          and you in full gear jumped into the water?

          Maybe they teach it in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, I don’t know - did not serve, but in the USSR Armed Forces they couldn’t teach it.
      2. alexmach 25 January 2020 16: 19 New
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        As an MS on parachuting, I can unequivocally say that in most tragic outcomes it is just the lack of education

        I understand you measure on your own? Please tell me, can an ordinary paratrooper be enrolled in droves to such an extent that these tragic accidents would be avoided?
        1. Doliva63 25 January 2020 17: 50 New
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          Quote: alexmach
          As an MS on parachuting, I can unequivocally say that in most tragic outcomes it is just the lack of education

          I understand you measure on your own? Please tell me, can an ordinary paratrooper be enrolled in droves to such an extent that these tragic accidents would be avoided?

          "To avoid these tragic accidents," you need to learn only 3 hand movements - what do you think, "can be learned to such an extent"? laughing
  6. sailor roman 25 January 2020 11: 41 New
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    In 1986, on the Black Sea Fleet, on the initiative of specialists from the Search and Rescue Service and the support of the fleet command, a Rescue Parachute Group was created and very effectively solved. It was created from officers, midshipmen and ambulances of sailors of the coastal emergency rescue party of more than thirty people. The group worked in the open sea on a wave of up to 5 points. The group was headed by Air Force Major Nikolai Borisov. He developed a very simple and reliable quick-disconnect device and much more. The group existed until 1992. Over the years, the composition of the group has changed many times, the total number of jumps on water is more than 5 thousand, and at the same time, not a single case with loss of life happened. Since 1991, the fleet began to be destroyed and the group ceased to exist. But many of its participants, including Nikolai Borisov, are alive, healthy and ready to pass on their experience to a new generation. However, the modern naval command and control system is not capable of solving this simplest task, although this has been repeatedly reported to the Navy command.
    1. minus 25 January 2020 11: 47 New
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      A quick release on any sports dome is worth it! The thing is different! Difficulty for a fighter to determine the distance to the surface of the water and the moment of release! If on the wing it is not so critical, horizontal speed is high, then on mass parachutes it is of little use. One figs, the area of ​​the dome is large and can cover ...
    2. sailor roman 25 January 2020 12: 19 New
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      Before the SPDG was thrown onto the water from the AN-26 aircraft, inflatable rescue boats with a motor in a rubber bag and LAS-5M, half-ready for deployment, were dropped on makeshift platforms. Water diving was carried out in groups of 5-6 people in a group in the overalls of the paratrooper with the necessary number of tools for the final deployment of rescued boats and rafts.
    3. K-36 25 January 2020 15: 45 New
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      Roman (sailor), through my hands passed courses beginning. PS and PLC Borisov Boris Borisovich. Is Borisov mentioned by you exactly Nikolai?
      1. sailor roman 27 January 2020 10: 58 New
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        Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Nikolai Borisov, formerly the head of the PDS and PSS of the Black Sea Fleet, is alive and well, a pensioner, lives in the village of Kacha near Sevastopol.
  7. KBaHT_BpeMeHu 25 January 2020 11: 46 New
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    Reinsurance is never superfluous, but if everything is done correctly, firstly unfasten before splashdown then secondly you can use the reserve for up to 30 minutes as a lifebuoy. Training, training, and training again ...
    1. minus 25 January 2020 11: 56 New
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      The spare tire will not last so much .... the clothes get wet faster .... Yes, and its volume is very small ... It will not hold weapons and ammunition, not to mention wet equipment.
  8. Thrifty 25 January 2020 12: 07 New
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    I thought they would fit a small self-inflating vest for the paratroopers, so that when they enter the water, they pull the valve, and the vest inflates in seconds. ...
  9. Zeev Zeev 25 January 2020 12: 18 New
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    I jumped with a parachute in the army 17 years ago, we were armed with American T-10 parachutes and Israeli Tsabar-3. Quick-disconnect brackets stood there, and before jumping instructed what to do in case it blows in the wind. Anyway, jumping into the water is part of the parachute training of half of the IDF special forces. And the Russian special forces seem to be jumping into the water. Is it really so difficult to copy mounts, a penny thing, or at least conduct a briefing?
  10. Langf 25 January 2020 12: 52 New
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    I remember on the D-5 there was a trailer on the straps, something like now on the seat belts, but it was always tightly checked. And on the RAP, they brought it up - forget, so that foolishly where you don’t have to click away. I think it’s unlikely that they will come up with something else, you just need to think through a random reset.
  11. Flatter 25 January 2020 13: 23 New
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    The determinant of distance to the surface. It would be useful on land.
  12. tlauicol 25 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    Everyone writes about determining the distance to the water and the release - nonsense - that's how they die. It is necessary to slip out of the suspension when touching the water - the height cannot be determined and the time, too.
    But it’s good for sports. And for jumping without trunks. If fully equipped in water ... amen anyway
    1. Zeev Zeev 25 January 2020 15: 53 New
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      But what, quick-release fasteners for trunks can not be done either?
      1. tlauicol 25 January 2020 16: 15 New
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        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        But what, quick-release fasteners for trunks can not be done either?

        IMHO, all this is necessary so that the paratrooper is not dragged across the field. Quickly reset the main the dome. And when it falls into the water, it is still necessary to disengage the entire suspension and slip out of it when splashed. Or drown with a gun. So it makes no sense
        1. Zeev Zeev 25 January 2020 16: 22 New
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          I'm not special in your parachute technique, do they jump with a gun on themselves? We jump with weapons (as well as unloading and ammunition) in a bag that is tied to a fighter on the rail and lands before him. Moreover, the fighter himself unhooks it somewhere 50 meters above the ground.
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            I myself did not jump with a gun.
            but comrades are jumping that way - a gun on his chest, take care of your teeth
          2. Doliva63 25 January 2020 18: 08 New
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            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            I'm not special in your parachute technique, do they jump with a gun on themselves? We jump with weapons (as well as unloading and ammunition) in a bag that is tied to a fighter on the rail and lands before him. Moreover, the fighter himself unhooks it somewhere 50 meters above the ground.

            In my airborne training in my time there was a lot of exercises - from a light jump to a jump with firing in the air. When jumping with a weapon, an automatic / machine gun / grenade launcher is mounted on the outboard depending on whether it is planned to use it in the air. Some weapons generally require only packaging in a container. In general, in different ways. But in any case, it’s safe. Of course, everyone also has a cargo container. But each one has its own, depending on the specialty.
      2. Doliva63 25 January 2020 17: 58 New
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        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        But what, quick-release fasteners for trunks can not be done either?

        What for? GK is attached to the outboard. How freed from her, nothing prevents.
        1. Zeev Zeev 26 January 2020 07: 18 New
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          So we also attached to the suspension system. On two quick-release mounts that allow you to unhook it immediately before landing and the last couple of tens of meters, the bag goes down on the rail under the parachutist.
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            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            So we also attached to the suspension system. On two quick-release mounts that allow you to unhook it immediately before landing and the last couple of tens of meters, the bag goes down on the rail under the parachutist.

            Falling over Naturally, the cargo container has a “lock” that opens before landing. One motion of the hand. As the "winged infantry" of the USSR Airborne Forces were the most advanced at the time.
            1. Zeev Zeev 26 January 2020 19: 38 New
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              So who prevents to put the same locks on a suspension system?
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                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                So who prevents to put the same locks on a suspension system?

                What a dumb you are. The lock on the pendant will free you from the dome, but not from the pendant, and on it also dofig cargo - is that more clear? Therefore, this garbage in CA did not bother. Minus - mine, for lack of understanding drinks
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                  The weapon and ammunition luggage rests on two quick-release locks. Before landing, while still in the air, he is buckled off and he descends separately, tied to a harness. The spare wheel is mounted on two locks and tightened with a belt, which is released in one motion. The suspension system is fastened with four of the same locks - two seconds and it is unfastened. And unfastening the dome is a completely different system. Two rings over the shoulders.
                  1. Doliva63 27 January 2020 22: 31 New
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                    We have a suspension on three "locks" - 2 leg girths and a chest bridge. Snap off once. But a spare wheel, albeit on 2 "locks", but without any belt. We unfasten the right "lock" of a spare wheel, then - a chest bridge. Then the left leg girth. We sit on the "lodgement" and the right girth, waiting for water. 5 meters unfasten the right. So far, a couple of meters was left to the water. Then - the gurgle! And sail to the side. The dome lies either behind or slightly in front, and a boat / boat approaches you and takes you out of the water. It's okay, a regular training leap. I don’t remember the exercise number, really.
                    You really still do not understand that I am aware of what locks are? Two rings over the shoulders - this is when the free ends of the half-ends go, so to speak. And the castle / locks are at their free ends. Press the key / keys, half-ends fly away with the dome. It has long been, but probably imprinted in my memory forever. Weak your VDP, however laughing
                    1. Zeev Zeev 27 January 2020 23: 54 New
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                      So we have about the same and sit on the water. Only the dome is unfastened by the breakdown of two checks. Then it is not clear what kind of stories about the new castles, because the old ones do not open quickly?
                      PySy: In 1956, the World Parachuting Championship was held in Moscow. The Israeli team took tenth place (last). A few months later, half of this team landed on the Mitle Pass.
                      1. Doliva63 28 January 2020 17: 14 New
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                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        So we have about the same and sit on the water. Only the dome is unfastened by the breakdown of two checks. Then it is not clear what kind of stories about the new castles, because the old ones do not open quickly?
                        PySy: In 1956, the World Parachuting Championship was held in Moscow. The Israeli team took tenth place (last). A few months later, half of this team landed on the Mitle Pass.

                        Because the paratrooper is not = paratrooper, everything is correct. And, by the way, in the Union the army had its own parachuting - it was called military-applied. And I had 2 different books: The record book of the athlete-skydiver and the Personal book of accounting for skydiving. Therefore, we could show the class at competitions and land where necessary. Now this is all "somewhat" poher, but, go ahead, survive. drinks
  13. K-36 25 January 2020 17: 12 New
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    As an MS on parachuting, I can unequivocally say that in most tragic outcomes it is just the lack of education

    I understand you measure on your own? Please tell me, and a private paratrooper in droves can be learned to such an extent that would avoid these tragic accidents?


    I answer. Measuring uneasy. and on an in-depth analysis of the available information coming to the aviation substation and VTS in the form of special directives explaining the circumstances of the tragedy, the reasons (their cause) and the list of necessary activities that be sure to fulfill (in order to guarantee exclusion of their repetition). "Report on performance!" [ yes
    In addition, to educate Nach. PS and PDS aviation regiments, I had to shovel a lot of specialized literature (links to which [b] I was obliged to give
    with your learning material). Well, besides this, as you know, I had to try all this on myself (which I did periodically). Something like this.
    soldier
  14. Chaldon48 25 January 2020 18: 28 New
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    Human sacrifices are required to begin to introduce useful innovations.