Chinese expert: China overtakes Russia and the United States in terms of the development of a hypersonic project

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Chinese media released material on the development of a project to create hypersonic weapons in the PRC. The material provides an assessment voiced by military expert Lei Jie. He notes that, having relatively small technological capabilities in the field of aircraft and rocket propulsion, China has made great strides in the development of a “hypersonic” program.

From a statement by an expert from China:



China has the worst technological reserves of the three countries leading in the military industry (USA, Russia, China). But China at the same time demonstrates the fastest development in terms of creating hypersonic weapons, ahead of the pace of Russia and the United States. If Moscow began work back in the days of the USSR, and today's Russian engineers base their activities on creating hypersonic missile developments on a Soviet backlog, then Beijing has been acting in this direction only since 2014.

Lei Jie cites the example of the Chinese hypersonic unmanned aerial vehicle DF-ZF (formerly WU-14).

At the same time, the statement by Lei Jie that China has been working on hypersonic technologies since 2014 is puzzling. Indeed, in January 2014, the same WU-14 made its first flight. At least this was reported by the Chinese media. According to Chinese sources, a hypersonic drone capable of delivering nuclear warheads can reach speeds of up to 10 M, but whether it developed such a speed in the course of numerous (at least seven) tests is not reported.

Lei Jie claims that China uses exclusively its own achievements in creating hypersonic weapons, including the works of the Chinese theorist of intercontinental flights of the 1940s, Professor Qian Xuesen.
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    1. +9
      25 January 2020 07: 43
      Bouncers or stole something again?
      1. +13
        25 January 2020 08: 14
        A lot of things are also written on the fence. and you come there firewood lies. so is China.
        1. -6
          25 January 2020 09: 49

          The Chinese experimental hypersonic unmanned aerial vehicle DF-ZF will be able to reach speeds of more than 12 thousand km / h and will be equipped with missiles with nuclear warheads. The aircraft has already passed seven flight tests, which were considered successful. Its main feature is that due to the hypersonic speed of flight, the DF-ZF cannot be intercepted using conventional air defense systems using data from ground and sea stations, as well as satellite reconnaissance. Traveling at great speed almost parallel to the surface of the earth at high altitude significantly reduces time attacks, and the use of a stock of kinetic energy at a high speed of entry into the atmosphere can significantly increase the flight range - says Lei Jie
          1. +15
            25 January 2020 10: 47
            rich (dmitry)
            and the use of kinetic energy at a high speed of entry into the atmosphere can significantly increase the flight range - says Lei Jie
            Well, why did you repost this nonsense? There are more and more such "specialists" in China every day, but things are still there. To slam and copy, yes, here they are unsurpassed masters, but so far the guts are too thin to work out.
            No, with their perseverance and capabilities, sooner or later they will do something, but what will happen in the end is a big question. So far, the Chinese copy of the Kalash cannot withstand any competition with the original, and the Kalash is by no means a hypersonic missile. So they can say whatever they want, but for now they are up to the Russian Federation and the United States, as to Moscow with cancer.
            1. +3
              25 January 2020 11: 02
              Well, why did you post this nonsense?

              Actually, the author of this article should have laid it out, since he refers to this material. I cited the source.
              Or are you in favor of discussing only the title of the articles without delving into the essence of the issue?
              1. +4
                25 January 2020 11: 11
                rich (dmitry)
                Or are you in favor of discussing only the title of the articles without delving into the essence of the issue?
                No. It's just that there’s nothing to discuss here by and large. Some left Chinese iksperd dumped the flow of their Wishlist, not backed up by anything, that's all.
            2. +5
              25 January 2020 16: 11
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              So they can say anything

              I recall a joke.
              A 60-year-old patient comes to a sexologist-sexopathologist and says:
              - Doctor, give me pills, so that, like my friend, who is 63 years old, I can do conjugal duty 5 times a night ...
              - And where did you get that he performs it 5 times a night?
              - So he told me about it!
              - And who's stopping you from saying the same thing !?
              Why am I doing this? And besides, hypersound is not only dviguny, but also materials that hold an enormous thermodynamic load without changing their strength. If the question of materials science had been resolved among the hunfuz, then they would not have been hammering, like woodpeckers, over the solution of problems with their aircraft engines!
              Therefore, it is very doubtful that they have already decided this issue ahead of the rest in the GZO. No.
          2. -8
            25 January 2020 11: 07
            This is the Chinese version of Vanguard. BR brings the glider into low space,
            and then the device plans to dive from 100 to 30-40 km. And sharply over the target
            goes down. The glider’s flight correction and the accuracy of the device’s hit are also doubtful.
            1. +1
              25 January 2020 12: 14
              It is important for the Chinese to show that they are able to get to the United States. Is it possible?
              1. +1
                25 January 2020 16: 40
                Quote: iouris
                It is important for the Chinese to show that they are able to get to the United States. Is it possible?

                Yes, it seems possible. Here is what they write:
                China intends to deploy its ICBMs in the central province of Henan. According to the Washington Free Beacon portal, from this point, "Dongfeng-41" will be able to reach US territory within 30 minutes, which poses a strategic threat to Washington. At the same time, American intelligence believes that the missile is capable of carrying up to 10 warheads.
                In December, Beijing launched Dongfeng 41 from a railway mobile installation in the western part of the country. The tests took place while US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter visited US aircraft carrier John C. Stennis in the South China Sea
                The only question is how quickly the OUT passes for "Dunya s Fenya". Will the Berks (from the missile defense maritime area) manage to aim their Aegises at the Chinese wunderwafe during its entry into the trajectory.
            2. +1
              25 January 2020 19: 34
              Do the Chinese have results? We have. Vanguard adopted. their dreams are ...
              1. -6
                25 January 2020 20: 27
                "Vanguard is adopted" ////
                ----
                But it’s not clear why it’s been adopted. Deliver a nuclear warhead to the USA
                in a much simpler, more reliable and accurate way. Rocket Yars.
                Vanguard is more a psychological weapon than an effective combat weapon.
                1. +1
                  26 January 2020 11: 23
                  Vanguards in YaRs and put ..
                  1. -3
                    26 January 2020 11: 43
                    No. The vanguards are putting on the remaining one and a half dozen old UR-100N liquid missiles that have not been in production for a long time. But they were stored in warehouses without fuel and preserved.
            3. 0
              26 January 2020 17: 31
              Quote: voyaka uh
              This is the Chinese version of Vanguard.

              Do not tell my slippers. Until the Chinese advance in materials science, no achievements in hypersound shine for them. They can’t cook up an analogue of the S-400, and they still buy aircraft engines from Russia. What else can I talk about? To listen to a Chinese expert is like during the Second World War, to listen to the military strategists of Zanzibar.
      2. +1
        25 January 2020 10: 18
        or someone is lying or one of two
      3. 0
        25 January 2020 10: 23
        Leak (if any) ONLY from TSNIIMASH.
        Their device uses the same flight principles as the Vanguard. Which in the future will be installed on the Sarmat ICBM.
        And the success of the Chinese and the testing of DF-ZF began recently.
        I could be mistaken, but the Chinese Yankees definitely went around.
      4. 0
        26 January 2020 17: 09
        Quote: Collective Farm
        Bouncers or stole something again?

        They probably stole the cartoon, drew their little stars, flags and away we go.
    2. +18
      25 January 2020 07: 44
      I'm afraid under the Chinese media - again the notorious Sohu is hiding ... stop
      There were leaders in the hapsound ... laughing Damn!
      1. +1
        25 January 2020 07: 45
        Is this the newspaper that is registered in the USA?
        1. +15
          25 January 2020 07: 47
          No, This is Yandex Zen - in the Chinese version ... with a billion EkperDov! wink
          1. +1
            25 January 2020 07: 49
            Sorry, confused with the electronic newspaper Sina.com.
    3. +4
      25 January 2020 07: 44
      When creating hypersonic weapons, China uses exclusively its own developments.


      China always uses "exclusively" its own developments. Everywhere you look "exclusively" Chinese developments.
      Not a country, but some kind of copy machine.
    4. +3
      25 January 2020 07: 46
      Something before, when China was not so economically developed, it was not so boastful. And now, from every Chinese iron, eulogies are boasting about their super-duper coolness in everything. I do not detract from the possibility and success of the Chinese, but it seems that this is already too much. Do they themselves not notice this?
      1. +3
        25 January 2020 11: 35
        They have always been like that. Even during the Opium Wars, when Britain raped China in all holes, the Chinese Emperor demanded that the British ambassador crawl on his knees in front of him. And they considered Britain a rebellious province of China
      2. +1
        25 January 2020 13: 04
        Well, yes, they were not laughing Only they are the beacon of the Chou-go civilization - the Middle Empire, and all around are savages. But they are a lot of brains to powder, since the times of Lao Tzu and Confucius. "The Way that can be expressed in words is not the true Way." But the completely meaningless Long Wall was built for two thousand years ... And that's not a fact.
    5. +1
      25 January 2020 07: 54
      The swamp is full, the frogs will croak.
      However, they do not invest small resources in their programs, from the outside they "pick up everything that is possible and impossible! With labor, production discipline, they all have top types .... the result will be, of course, Chinese.
      1. +1
        25 January 2020 08: 10
        Quote: rocket757
        The swamp is full, the frogs will croak.

        A very accurate observation about frogs. Racked up, you know ... "Vanguard" is already in service, but they are still the best ...
        1. +1
          25 January 2020 08: 17
          They scored a dashing "acceleration"!
          To some extent this is true, although they do not specify who and what "kick" they gave to accelerate.
          1. 0
            25 January 2020 08: 24
            Quote: rocket757
            They dashing typed "acceleration"

            They "props" a lot ... Using the terminology of our smershevets ... I remember their "supersonic" submarine several years ago ... There is no trust in the information from there.
            1. +3
              25 January 2020 08: 29
              They would have "crane" in their swamp to conduct an "audit".
    6. +2
      25 January 2020 08: 08
      military expert Lei Jie

      An expert is not a constructor. An expert can name any characteristics, since is not responsible for his words. As in an old joke: "A neighbor says he can. - So you say" feel
    7. 0
      25 January 2020 08: 27
      They steal and then give out for their own) China is such a China
      1. +2
        25 January 2020 08: 49
        Quote: 501Legion
        They steal and then give out for their own) China is such a China

        So yes .. Especially it amused me ..
        exclusively own developments, including the works of the Chinese theorist of intercontinental flights of the 1940s, Professor Qian Xuesen.

        Well, the Chinese, well, entertainers .. laughing The people are certainly hardworking, but they like to poke technology and they have a lot of money ..
    8. 0
      25 January 2020 08: 51
      Yes, the expert is worse than our "couch"! wassat The Chinese have only their population, but the name, the rest is dragged from all over the world!
    9. 0
      25 January 2020 08: 52
      They love to brag about the Chinas.
    10. 0
      25 January 2020 09: 00
      "But China is demonstrating the fastest development in terms of creating hypersonic weapons." Yesterday you didn't even think about it, but today you decided to start?
    11. 0
      25 January 2020 09: 23
      For some reason, I involuntarily recall (from the study of history) the first half of the 60s - "The Great Leap Forward". He is still on our shelves, in particular for instruments.
    12. +1
      25 January 2020 09: 46
      You feed on our scraps of previous generations of hypersonic products, therefore, and relatively quickly reduce the gap. Without the help of a northern neighbor, you would now be in maximum hypersound at the level of the 60s - 70s. That is, at near-zero
    13. +2
      25 January 2020 09: 53
      The Chinese take an example from the striped: yes we are ahead of everyone, the most exceptional, etc. Oh well.
    14. +2
      25 January 2020 09: 57
      Balabol, your mother from the Middle Kingdom.
    15. +2
      25 January 2020 10: 44
      Lei Jie claims that China uses exclusively its own achievements in creating hypersonic weapons, including the works of the Chinese theorist of intercontinental flights of the 1940s, Professor Qian Xuesen.

      "You can't praise yourself - no one will praise" - the phrase "own developments" smiled especially)), it is hard to believe that China has hypersonic technologies (last year, China bought Motor Sich for the sake of technology), and then they report that overtook the USA and Russia)))
    16. +2
      25 January 2020 11: 15
      ... with relatively small technological capabilities in the field of aircraft and rocket propulsion, China has made great strides in the development of a “hypersonic” program.
      Well, if you really laugh, so for real !!! laughing laughing laughing
    17. 0
      25 January 2020 11: 22
      At the same time, China is demonstrating the fastest development in terms of creating hypersonic weapons, outstripping Russia and the United States at the pace.

      What nonsense ...
      Although, apparently, it’s just cunning: in Russia and the USA there is an increase in the created models of weapons, spherical [for example] 5% per year, and we have 5,5%! Well! We are ahead of Russia and the United States means.

      At the same time, neither the characteristics nor the achieved test results are mentioned, the main thing is the "pace" calculated by the Chinese expert according to the secret formula, it seems to be higher.
    18. -4
      25 January 2020 12: 13
      I read the comments of local experts, neighing, weathercocks divorced))) if they write ours - cheers! analo-shit))) Chinese and Americans-bouncers))). Dudes, the main point of this article is not that China has overtaken Russia or America in hypersonic technologies, but that the pace of development of this or that technology exceeds that in Russia and America taken together))) And you can’t argue with that, verbally or badly.
      1. +1
        25 January 2020 13: 06
        Quote: JD1979
        I read the comments of local experts, neighing, weathercocks divorced))) if they write ours - cheers! analo-shit))) Chinese and Americans-bouncers))). Dudes, the main point of this article is not that China has overtaken Russia or America in hypersonic technologies, but that the pace of development of this or that technology exceeds that in Russia and America taken together))) And you can’t argue with that, verbally or badly.

        And what were you hoping for? Like .. China is a threat to peace and the United States is our savior? laughing
        Once again, I am confident in my chuyka hi
        What liberals. Must dig channels ..!
        1. 0
          25 January 2020 13: 16
          Quote: Collective Farm
          And what were you hoping for?

          The fact that like adults should understand the meaning of what was written, and not be Pavlov’s dogs, reflexively reacting to certain irritants.
          Quote: Collective Farm
          Like .. China is a threat to peace and the United States is our savior?

          Inference logic of the "blonde woman" level
          Quote: Collective Farm
          Once again, I am confident in my chuyka

          Nevertheless, cross yourself, it seemed to you again.
          Quote: Collective Farm
          What liberals. Must dig channels ..!

          And as always, I disagree with the crowd - a liberal)))
          I understand that on the collective farm digging is a common thing, and reading is a pointless exercise, well, do the usual thing - dig))
      2. +3
        25 January 2020 17: 55
        Quote: JD1979
        the main point of this article is not that China overtook Russia or America in hypersonic technologies, but that the pace of development of a particular technology exceeds that in Russia and America combined)))

        This is possible, because it is always faster to run on a paved track than on virgin soil. China very "quickly" repeats the backs of our and Amov's research, perhaps even developments. But this is a passed stage for us!
        Why, the United States is a mighty intellectually power and then beats its forehead against the wall of hypersound that is inaccessible for them so far ... We managed to deceive Mother Nature and piled the Vanguard ... Well, then we, the creative people and pioneers-Kulibins! And what are they talking about? About the pace? Maybe their "tempos" will fly, or are they still products?
        And without resolving issues materials science they have nowhere to go. And there, as I understand it, there is no question of "pace"! Wall! "Gradient" is certainly good. But I would like to get an "answer"!

        And then, the Chinese "sprinters" from the science of hypersound will face a serious "trouble". I wonder what then the troubadours from Hsin-hua will beat the drums?
    19. -4
      25 January 2020 13: 50
      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
      No. It's just that there’s nothing to discuss here by and large. Some left Chinese iksperd dumped the flow of their Wishlist, not backed up by anything, that's all.

      Unfortunately for us, this is not the wish of some Chinese expert, but an objective reality. There were 7 tests - 3 in 2014 (January 8, August 7 and December 4), in tests in 2015 (June 7 and November 27) and one test in April 2016. And there is something to discuss. There is no exact data yet on what exactly this product is. Either it is a missile combat equipment similar to our Avangard. or it is an unmanned aircraft that carries nuclear warheads as a load. But to say that all this is bullshit, that this is someone's wishlist is still not worth it. In general, one should not be condescending and ironic about the developments of other countries. Russia is not the only one who deals with this issue.

      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
      So far, the Chinese copy of "Kalash" does not withstand any competition with the original

      They have long been producing their machines, which are not copies of AK. Watch their parades for several years. And we all live in the memories of 30-50 years ago, when Chinese goods were of poor quality.

      Quote: voyaka uh
      This is the Chinese version of Vanguard. BR brings the glider into low space,
      and then the device plans to dive from 100 to 30-40 km. And sharply over the target
      goes down. The glider’s flight correction and the accuracy of the device’s hit are also doubtful.

      Alexey! So far, this cannot be said with absolute precision. There are two possible options: an analogue of the Vanguard or a hypersonic UAV carrying YABG as combat equipment. Altitude is also different in the information. This is 30 km and 30-70 km if it is a UAV. Increasing the range is possible using a trajectory similar to Zenger's, but slightly smoother. The lower point of the sinusoid will not be like that of Zenger at an altitude of 40 km, but somewhere at heights of the order of 70-80 km. And above the Karman line, he will also not rise much

      Quote: knn54
      Leak (if any) ONLY from TSNIIMASH.
      Their device uses the same flight principles as the Vanguard. Which in the future will be installed on the Sarmat ICBM.
      And the success of the Chinese and the testing of DF-ZF began recently.
      I could be mistaken, but the Chinese Yankees definitely went around.

      And the principle is the same for everyone, if it is a missile combat equipment, and not an independent hypersonic UAV with a "payload". The principle that our "Vanguard", that the American HTV-2 or AHW, that the Chinese DF-ZF (WU-14)

      Quote: Gritsa
      Something before, when China was not so economically developed, it was not so boastful. And now, from every Chinese iron, eulogies are boasting about their super-duper coolness in everything. I do not detract from the possibility and success of the Chinese, but it seems that this is already too much. Do they themselves not notice this?

      And this has become a trend for everyone, have you noticed? And we, and the Chinese, and the Americans. I’m talking about Ukraine too. There, sometimes an ordinary event, such as a test of a new missile for a MLRS or anti-ship cruise missile, generally becomes universal events. everyone’s main task now is to show how cool you are and that you have something that your rivals don’t have yet

      Quote: Hermit21
      You feed on our scraps of previous generations of hypersonic products,

      Do not voice the representatives of previous generations of our hypersonic products ?? Just wondering what products were included in previous generations.

      Quote: JD1979
      I read the comments of local experts, neighing, weathercocks divorced))) if they write ours - cheers! analo-shit))) Chinese and Americans-bouncers))). Dudes, the main point of this article is not that China has overtaken Russia or America in hypersonic technology, but that the pace of development of a technology exceeds that in Russia and America combined))) And with this, no matter how verbally you go, you can not argue.

      It’s hard not to agree. When you read about their pace in shipbuilding, when they launch two dozen destroyers in a year, there is no doubt about the pace
    20. 0
      25 January 2020 14: 06
      well made fun of))
    21. +1
      25 January 2020 15: 33
      The words "Chinese expert" become something like "British scientists"
    22. 0
      25 January 2020 16: 14
      With regard to China, one can doubt literally anything ... but not about how much "extra" money it has and the opportunity to realize this money. If the Chinese were as smart as the Europeans .. It would have been a long time since everyone had a Khan .. and even in the United States, the main language in schools was Chinese! Actually, like Gagarin, who would have found Chinese roots ...
    23. 0
      25 January 2020 17: 45
      Quote: xGibSoNx
      For a long time, everyone would have been khan .. and even in the USA in schools, the main language was Chinese

      Off-topic, but the Chinese language will never be the language of international communication, simply because of the inconvenience of the Chinese hieroglyphic writing.
    24. 0
      25 January 2020 20: 01
      Does China have a hypersonic weapon put into service in the army ???? So how can he overtake Russia? Unclear.
    25. -2
      25 January 2020 22: 16
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      Does China have a hypersonic weapon put into service in the army ???? So how can he overtake Russia? Unclear.



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