"Three Musketeers": China revealed the tactics of an attacking "battle box"

"Three Musketeers": China revealed the tactics of an attacking "battle box"

J-20, J-16 and J-10C in one formation



In China, a training battle was held with the participation of the latest combat aircraft of the country's air force J-20 and its earlier "associates." Some of his shots were published by Chinese media.

Musketeers of the Chinese sky


China's most advanced J-20 stealth fighter jets train as part of a real combat scenario along with powerful J-16 jets and agile J-10Cs

- indicates the Global Times with reference to the PLA Air Force.

Techniques of various types worked together; each model was assigned its own role. As noted, this tactic allows you to organize effective defense of the country's airspace. The exercises involved the J-20, J-16 and J-10C, which have already been dubbed the "three sky musketeers."

If the J-20 is positioned as a completely domestic development, then it should be noted that the J-16 was created on the basis of the Russian Su-30MKK fighter. J-10 is presented as a Chinese answer to Soviet (MiG-29 and Su-27) and American (F-15, F-16) machines.


J-20


According to the patterns of F-35


As you can see from the video, the “battle box” consists of two J-20s, two J-16s and one J-10C. As military expert Fu Qianshao explained, the latest J-20 stealth is more advanced because it uses advanced technologies, including more advanced avionics and AFAR radars. According to him, the J-16, the least secretive of the three types, can openly use the radar during the attack to detect targets and attract the attention of the enemy.

At this time, the "invisible" J-20s are able to hide nearby and launch sudden missile attacks after enemy targets reveal their location, trying to destroy the J-16. The J-10C fighter, equipped with a thrust vectoring engine, must take on close combat thanks to its inherent “super maneuverability”.

In another tactical scenario, the J-20, using its stealth, is tasked with destroying the "strategic nodes of the enemy’s defense," in particular, early warning aircraft [AWACS] and air tankers. Then, “to the eyeballs”, an armed J-16 strikes at the enemy’s ground forces, including mobile radars. At this time, the J-10C provides air dominance.

It should be noted that in general, the American experience is clearly traced in the described tactics of the battle. The US Air Force’s stealth F-35 also plays the role of a “behind-the-scenes” player, while the F-16 or F-18 should provoke a “highlight” of the target that opens when they are detected. When working out the scenario of infrastructure destruction, F-35 fighters are tasked with delivering a lightning strike at enemy air defense centers. After that, earlier missiles loaded with missiles gain air superiority and complete the defeat of the enemy.

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  1. Vladimir_2U 25 January 2020 06: 41 New
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    It would be strange if the Chinese “go their own way”. Paraphrasing the film: "Everything has already been invented, up to us!"
    1. Magog 25 January 2020 09: 20 New
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      "The Chinese came up with" - it's almost a joke. The same applies to gunpowder, rockets, paper, etc. Tactical methods in military affairs always implied the use of distracting, demonstrative, attacking ... groups, starting with "ambush regiments" on the Kulikovo field ...
      1. smart ass 25 January 2020 21: 41 New
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        It doesn’t matter who invented, the result is important
      2. Usher 26 January 2020 00: 48 New
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        Quote: Magog
        "The Chinese came up with" - it's almost a joke. The same applies to gunpowder, rockets, paper, etc. Tactical methods in military affairs always implied the use of distracting, demonstrative, attacking ... groups, starting with "ambush regiments" on the Kulikovo field ...

        And what about the Kulikovo field? Ambush tactics were used much earlier, and this is the main tactics of the steppe peoples.
        1. Magog 26 January 2020 00: 57 New
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          What reliable historical documents describe the tactics of the "steppe peoples"? And when is "much earlier"?
          1. Usher 26 January 2020 01: 26 New
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            Quote: Magog
            What reliable historical documents describe the tactics of the "steppe peoples"? And when is "much earlier"?

            At least Ramses’s trips to Palestine. They use ambushes. What are you showing off here? Credibility of the head or what? Even if you take closer to the Battle of Kulikovo, then the same battle at Kalka. The classic steppe maneuver, many days luring and exhausting, mock retreat and counterattack. Described in many sources, by the same Rashid Ad Din (I do not remember his exact name). You do not drive any tuff here, do not confuse patriotism with stupidity and obscurantism.
            1. Magog 27 January 2020 09: 45 New
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              The answer is typical for the “product” of the ist-faq: “Described in many sources,” “Don’t drive any tuff here,” ... There’s nothing to talk about.
    2. Bshkaus 25 January 2020 11: 15 New
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      It would be strange if the Chinese “go their own way”. Paraphrasing the film: "Everything has already been invented, up to us!"

      You can argue on this subject for as long as you want, and everyone will get the right answer only during real battles. Here, as in boxing or karate, the opponent can start swinging with one hand, starting the reflex mechanism of the enemy’s defense (in our case, exposing his “tactics”), and then sharply strike in another place, and not even with his arm, but with armature.
      if the Chinese “go their own way”.

      And this is in vain! There is no place for patterns and patterns in the war; the one who knows how to perform a non-standard act wins.
      Understand that the tactics of the Americans are a kind of "BOLT", which you need to look for your "Thread", but what do the Chinese do? They take their own blank to which the Americans also have a response, and according to the laws of mathematics BOLT divided by BOLT gives us ZERO
      But again, the famous formula "speed-height-maneuver" was born not at the training grounds, but in bloody battles.
      PS It is unfortunate that this morning, the comments on the article, which are really connected with the army and very relevant, turned out to be much less than the next suction of Ukraine in the neighboring topics ((((
      1. Golovan Jack 25 January 2020 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Bshkaus
        according to the laws of mathematics, BOLT divided by BOLT gives us ZERO

        Mdya ... so a bolt multiplied by zero gives us a bolt?

        Interesting math what
      2. Magog 25 January 2020 11: 45 New
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        In mathematics, when dividing, there is only one "taboo": you can not divide by a "bolt", which is equal to "zero"! And so, the "bolt" divided by the "bolt" is equal to "one." In general, I agree with you with the reasoning!
        1. Kuroneko 25 January 2020 12: 42 New
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          Quote: Magog
          In mathematics, there is only one “taboo” when dividing: you cannot divide by a “bolt” that is “zero”!

          Yes, you can divide by zero. The result is simply undetectable and does not make sense in the framework of the classical set theory.
        2. PSih2097 25 January 2020 15: 40 New
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          Quote: Magog
          In mathematics, there is only one “taboo” when dividing: you cannot divide by a “bolt” that is “zero”!

          Well, it depends on what kind of school you can’t, in MatAn you can ...
  2. Kleber 25 January 2020 06: 42 New
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    The box in the parades is good, and in a real battle, the SAM will easily find its target.
    1. voyaka uh 25 January 2020 10: 57 New
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      Korbka is a technique for real battles.
      At the parades, everyone flies tightly, closed, beautifully.
      ----
      The ESR of an aircraft is affected in exactly the same way as an explosive rocket and an aircraft radar
      the enemy. Radio visibility is a key factor in the air.
      SAM will choose a clear target J-16, and foggy J-20 will ignore.
      1. Magog 25 January 2020 11: 56 New
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        A dense closed formation in flight is not only a grand trick. Several aircraft in such a system on radar screens are displayed as one target. Then the system crumbles, and try to guess where the attacker, distracting, covering, demonstrative, etc. This is the tactical alphabet of air attack.
        1. voyaka uh 25 January 2020 18: 50 New
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          "Several aircraft in such a system on the radar screens are displayed as one target" ////
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          Long gone. So it was possible to deceive the radar operator in the 70s of the last century.
          In the analog era. When the computer did not process the radar information before
          screen output. Now the computer will clearly say that several planes are flying.
          And say what brand.
          1. Magog 25 January 2020 21: 27 New
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            I agree with the argument. But it seems that the computer will not help if the range to the target does not allow to distinguish between a group or a single target: a “computer” receives the angular sizes of objects from the radar, and this tool may not always allow determining the nature of the target due to the limited resolution of the radar .. It’s like a telescope, and the computer will not help if the diameter of the lens does not allow you to accurately see the object.
  3. Mountain shooter 25 January 2020 07: 31 New
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    Cool they came up with ... "Invisibility" in ambush, "crooks" loom like decoy ducks ... This is if the "invisibility" is actually invisible. And if not? tongue
    1. The collective farm 25 January 2020 07: 35 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      This is if the "invisibility" is actually invisible. And if not?

      We already saw burning, these "invisible" in Yugoslavia ..
    2. Vasyan1971 25 January 2020 11: 08 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cool they came up with ...

      It should be noted that in general, the American experience is clearly traced in the described tactics of the battle. The US Air Force’s stealth F-35 also plays the role of a “behind-the-scenes” player, while the F-16 or F-18 should provoke a “highlight” of the target that opens when they are detected.

      It seems like they are not. Normally...
  4. Thrifty 25 January 2020 09: 00 New
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    Yes, the Chinese have once again invented a square wheel. ..
    1. iouris 25 January 2020 13: 01 New
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      The Chinese invented everything, and the Americans patented everything.
  5. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 25 January 2020 10: 04 New
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    Chinese technology is the best in the world! All go all over to the Chinese auto industry.
    1. voyaka uh 25 January 2020 10: 47 New
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      Soon have to. China produces about 22 million passenger cars a year.
      (USA - 17 million, for comparison). Most Chinese sell to their market, but
      quality is growing every year, more and more brands are receiving certificates
      in Europe.
      1. iouris 25 January 2020 12: 16 New
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        However, out of approximately 70 million vehicles, approximately 2/3 are operated by the "golden billion".
    2. iouris 27 January 2020 00: 01 New
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      Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
      All go all over to the Chinese auto industry.

      Who is busy ... They will build their cars for another 10000 years. In the end, all the remaining inhabitants of the Earth will believe that after gunpowder the Chinese invented the car and were the first to go out into space. Human memory is such a strange thing ...
  6. Mentat 25 January 2020 12: 20 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    Soon have to. China produces about 22 million passenger cars a year.
    (USA - 17 million, for comparison). Most Chinese sell to their market, but
    quality is growing every year, more and more brands are receiving certificates
    in Europe.

    And are they sold there? Not the majority, but the vast majority. China's auto industry works exclusively on the domestic market, drops are coming out.
  7. Victor March 47 25 January 2020 12: 44 New
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    True tactics. Substituting his old brothers, hiding behind them, revealing the whereabouts of the enemy. A population of almost two billion. Such reserves allow EVERYTHING.
    1. Sergej1972 25 January 2020 18: 12 New
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      The population of 1 billion 400 million. The figure is gigantic, but, you must admit, this is not "almost two billion."
  8. avebersek 25 January 2020 19: 40 New
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    What garbage, the main thing this detection is ... And really on the radars there will be a war + EW
    AWACS will work + ground defense.
  9. Victor March 47 25 January 2020 21: 07 New
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    Quote: Sergej1972
    The population of 1 billion 400 million. The figure is gigantic, but, you must admit, this is not "almost two billion."

    Yes, they can’t be counted there. While you think, there will be so many changes. And the political mood of those who thought ....
    Recent laws that DO NOT prevent the growth of the number of children in a family in ten years will surprise everyone.
  10. lvov_aleksey 25 January 2020 23: 28 New
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    Do not judge, and you will not be judged.
    they are great, but they did not fight on several fronts in large numbers.
  11. Alexey Sommer 26 January 2020 14: 19 New
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    It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines!) In short.
    Hello everyone.)