"S-400 lead to an arms race": Pakistan opposed Russian air defense systems in the region


Pakistani authorities issued a statement expressing concern over the proliferation of Russian-made anti-aircraft missile systems. According to Islamabad, their deployment in a region torn by territorial disputes can lead to an increase in military escalation.


We believe that such destabilizing systems can undermine the counterbalance system and order in South Asia and lead to an unnecessary arms race

- noted in the foreign ministry of the country.

In accordance with the agreement between Moscow and New Delhi from 2018 with a total value of over $ 5 billion, Russia pledged to transfer five S-400 systems by 2025. According to the Indian press, the deployment of a new anti-aircraft missile weapons will begin in 2020 year.

Islamabad made the stated statement amid ballistic missile tests. Pakistan on Thursday launched a successful launch of the Ghaznavi ground-to-ground missile. A few days earlier, India tested the K-4 medium-range missile, which is able to carry a nuclear warhead.

In recent years, Islamabad has been faced with serious financial difficulties, which, according to Indian experts, are able to strengthen the military-technical lag behind its potential adversary. It is possible that, without the funds to acquire the S-400, the Pakistani authorities decided to respond to the appearance of a Russian air defense system in the neighborhood by discrediting it.
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  1. Charik 25 January 2020 05: 21 New
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    and let them buy something from the Chinese or from Amers
    1. Vladimir_2U 25 January 2020 06: 13 New
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      First, let your nuclear weapons be handed over to someone responsible, for example, to me! )))
      1. WILL 25 January 2020 06: 19 New
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        Well, it means that the Hindus made the right choice, there are no systems yet - but loud statements have already been sent by Pakistan.
        Not one International Act can not prohibit the purchase of Defensive systems, which include the S400. Well, the fact that they can control the sky over almost all of Pakistan is a Bonus for Hindus!
        I advise Pakistan to tighten the belt, save up money - and in turn to the C400.
        1. Passing by 25 January 2020 06: 31 New
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          Wait, now the mattress covers with their allies will accept something that prohibits the sale of everything that contains the letter "C" and the numbers 400, 500.
          They can...
        2. Zoldat_A 25 January 2020 07: 47 New
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          [quote = ANCIENT] Pakistan advise tightening the belt[/ Quote]
          And close your mouth on the ziplock. I don’t know how it is, THAT NAVIRHAH, but I have not forgotten how Pak took part in Afghanistan. And no one who was there forgot. Where did the caravans come from, where the "villains" were treated and armed. The Stingers, after all ...

          They thought we forgot? Yes, we don’t remember evil, we write ...
          1. WILL 25 January 2020 07: 50 New
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            I agree, Afghanistan must not be forgotten!
            Actually, the Mattresses are now fencing off the terrorists they themselves created (which are not good). So let them butt with their own brainchild! hi
            1. Zoldat_A 25 January 2020 08: 18 New
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              Quote: ANIMAL
              Mattresses now rake from the terrorists themselves created by them
              What they wanted, they got it


              Bin Laden was fed. Hitler was fed. Churchill said that
              Some may not like the system of Herr Hitler, but the same person will admire his patriotic achievements. If our country were defeated, I hope we could find the same indomitable defender who would be able to regain our courage and again help us to take a worthy place among other nations. I have repeatedly publicly called for the Fuhrer of Germany to become Hitler of the world. When a person fights in a desperate battle, he may have to gnash his teeth and flare his eyes violently. Rage and hatred give strength to the hand of contention. But the one who has achieved success should have a calm face and, changing the mood in accordance with the new circumstances, maintain and strengthen in tolerance and goodwill what has been won in the battle.
              17 September 1937 year.

              Not tired before the eyes of the whole world to be two-faced ....

              Still, the document is a strong force. You can't cut an ax ...
              1. WILL 25 January 2020 08: 22 New
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                Not ... not yet fully felt, something tells me - Everything interesting is yet to come!
                How many times have you announced a way out of Afghanistan ??? But in fact they are sitting at roadblocks - they are afraid of going beyond the borders of the roadblocks and cannot.
                1. Krasnodar 25 January 2020 08: 39 New
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                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  Not ... not yet fully felt, something tells me - Everything interesting is yet to come!
                  How many times have you announced a way out of Afghanistan ??? But in fact they are sitting at roadblocks - they are afraid of going beyond the borders of the roadblocks and cannot.

                  Their main cause of death is the same as that of a limited contingent of Soviet troops in Afghanistan - explosive devices. Therefore, they most likely go out. And a lot)).
                2. Zoldat_A 25 January 2020 10: 12 New
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                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  they are afraid to go beyond the borders of the checkpoints and cannot

                  We normally walked around the dukans - and nothing. They bought everything from condoms to sounddecks. And they walked calmly. And the Americans - seen on YouTube - are driving an APC, quickly buying cigarettes under the trunks and molting ...

                  "Conquerors!", Damn it .... "Democrats", their mother ....
                3. Charik 25 January 2020 10: 12 New
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                  C'mon, they go to protect poppy plantations
                  1. alma 25 January 2020 11: 06 New
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                    Quote: Charik
                    and they protect the poppy plantations

                    And everything is there, nobody wants to break the business.
              2. zombirusrev 25 January 2020 16: 53 New
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                Winston is still that chameleon he once said, “If the Wehrmacht invades Hell, then I will allow myself a few flattering words about the Devil.” (C)
          2. 72jora72 25 January 2020 08: 29 New
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            but I didn’t forget how Pak took part in Afghanistan. And no one who was there forgot.
            And how China helped the spirits, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, the USA, France, Great Britain, Japan (yes, yes, Japan allocated over $ 1979 billion to Pakistan for the period from December 1983 to August 4,1 for training and arming the mujahideen.) you haven’t forgotten about this?
        3. knn54 25 January 2020 17: 45 New
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          -Located in the northern Indian state of Himachal Pradesh, Triumph will "close" almost all of Kashmir to the Pakistani pilots.
          -When deployed in the state of Punjab, S-400s will be able to shoot down Pakistani aircraft directly above the country's capital, Islamabad.
          - If the Indians deploy their new air defense systems in the city of Amritsar in the north-west of the country, they will pose a threat to the Pakistan Air Force over Peshawar.
          It is easier for Pakistan to agree on the deployment of the S-400 at some distance from its border with India. This will avoid the "race".
      2. xGibSoNx 25 January 2020 16: 31 New
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        First, let your nuclear weapons be handed over to someone responsible, for example, to me! )))
        And can an example, to whom?))
    2. LiSiCyn 25 January 2020 06: 30 New
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      China could, but so far failed to copy. request
      And the Americans, have not been friends with packs lately. Nominally like allies, but they will not sell anything new. Because they know that China will immediately gain access.
    3. TermNachTer 25 January 2020 17: 45 New
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      With tongue removed. I wanted to write - let the mattresses "Patriot" buy. It is better and cheaper))))
  2. Thrifty 25 January 2020 05: 23 New
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    What do Pakistanis need? The Chinese will help them create or sell their air defense systems, licked from our complexes, visually one to one. And, Islamabad will be armed with a pseudo-analogue of the same C300, from the Chinese military-industrial complex.
    1. Rostislav 25 January 2020 11: 40 New
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      The Chinese will sell them. But PAKs have evolved from the fact that they understand the difference between our C300 in India and Chinese pseudo-analogs.
    2. TermNachTer 25 January 2020 17: 47 New
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      The Chinese "Red Banner" is not much C - 300, and especially not 400.
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  4. Tank jacket 25 January 2020 05: 25 New
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    Pakistan is an artificial state. Statehood and subjectivity does not possess. It's time to go home to India.
    1. Zoldat_A 25 January 2020 07: 57 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      Pakistan is an artificial state.

      The normal continuation of the divide and rule policy

      In the 47th year, the Inglizs artificially snapped it up (as if they could, in 18th Azerbaijan). Lyova got old, her hair was peeling off, her teeth fell out. But the initiative was taken by the brazen and early child of the United States a wonderful bridgehead to create "muddy water" around. Who was in Kandahar - knows.
      1. Tank jacket 25 January 2020 08: 34 New
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        I agree with you. hi Packs have little choice. Or it will be China and narrow-eyed Pakistanis. Or bargain with India for a federal side and maintain identity. Or the Eurasian Union.
  5. Far B 25 January 2020 05: 32 New
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    not having the funds to purchase the S-400,
    So what's the problem? On the African path: take a loan from Russia for the purchase of Russian weapons, purchase weapons, and then Putin will write off the debt anyway! Cho complicated ??? Oh yes. The packs are stupid - they recently even paid us something about 200 lyam of debt ... Wild, uneducated personalities. Nifiga do not know how to the international economy.
    1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 05: 41 New
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      is the young man all right with you ?!
      Government debts are written off solely due to the fact that they will be returned in another way - preferences in business or mining, but not otherwise. If you do not know this, but argue, or if you still do not understand worse ... well, my friend, there’s no dumb stuff.
      1. Far B 25 January 2020 05: 49 New
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        is the young man all right with you ?!
        Thank you for your kind words, my sciatica is very grateful to you for being "young." Straight second breath he opened.
        Government debts are written off solely due to the fact that they will be repaid in another way
        Kindly, examples in the studio (from which it is really clear that preferences are just as an answer to debts written off)?
        1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 06: 00 New
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          Do you want a reference to an interstate document where it will be written in Russian in white that some cantor of State A. gets the right to develop a particular piece of land with minerals in State B with a number of benefits. on account of repayment of public debt by party B. Before party A.?!
          I hope you are a brutal techie speaking strictly in ciphers, otherwise a young man is better concerned with his health, it is closer to you than understanding ball things.
          1. Far B 25 January 2020 06: 04 New
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            strictly cipher
            ??? Nah, I'm not talking with ciphers)))
            closer to understanding ballroom things
            Of course. I don’t understand ball things at all.
            Tie blah blah, better aim at the buttons on the keyboard - and still try to answer my question:
            Kindly, examples in the studio (from which it is really clear that preferences are just as an answer to debts written off)?
            If not, then do not bother poking buttons.
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              1. Lexus 25 January 2020 06: 27 New
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                It is pointless to argue with you because you are convinced that everything is in shit ...

                Return to your homeland already. To the Far East, ideally. Pink glasses themselves fall away. laughing
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      2. stepka_razin 25 January 2020 05: 57 New
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        is the young man all right with you ?!
        Government debts are written off solely due to the fact that they will be returned in another way - preferences in business or in mining, but not otherwise

        There is nothing like this, a debt can be restructured when a piece of paper is signed at the official level - we will pledge to the debtor (in this case the Russian Federation) the n-amount of minerals for the debt, to lease the land for the base, etc. I repeat all this is done at the official level. In the situation with Africa, debt was forgiven, not restructured. Perhaps some private individuals received something in their capital, but not the Russian Federation
        1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 06: 05 New
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          your opus does not contradict mine, mine is simply comprehensive: Yes, that’s the way individual individuals received preferences in Africa, and you wanted state preferences in the direction of the official Kremlin ?! Hmm ... I hope no one will not know, but now capitalism is everywhere, and it’s normal to think in the last century, but it’s not worth it.
          1. stepka_razin 25 January 2020 06: 10 New
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            your opus does not contradict mine, mine is simply comprehensive: Yes, that’s the way individual individuals received preferences in Africa, and you wanted state preferences in the direction of the official Kremlin ?! Hmm ... I hope no one will not know, but now capitalism is everywhere, and it’s normal to think in the last century, but it’s not worth it.

            Forgive me, I don’t really share your optimism, and I don’t really understand where does capitalism go ... I do not see capitalism here, but a banal laundering of $ 20 billion by a group of people, albeit through preference.
            Public debt should be returned to the state creditor, and not written off to the oligarchy. In any capitalist country, you can rattle for jail like that.
            1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 06: 14 New
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              I don’t have optimism, I have humility :) again with you I see the expense only in the nuances. And as for other countries, no, everything is at home, everything is native, the wallpaper is just different, it’s a word about “whether they planted it or not”
              1. stepka_razin 25 January 2020 06: 18 New
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                I don’t have optimism, I have humility :) again with you I see the expense only in the nuances. And as for other countries, no, everything is at home, everything is native, the wallpaper is just different, it’s a word about “whether they planted it or not”

                There is no need for fairy tales if in one country everything that lies badly tyrites the oligarchy, does not mean that it is so in all. And the very concept of oligarchy is native Russian.
                If in the same states any millionaire encroached on $ 20 billion owned by the state (even by public debt), then the next day he would have already heated his kidneys in an electric chair
                1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 06: 25 New
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                  I have never been to Russia, I was to the USA ... that I saw this and I sing. but I saw people from both sides ... they differ mainly, some people think that everywhere is bad except the USA, others are better than everywhere in Russia ... I see that your problem is that you are fixated on yourself and on how you see the world around you, but it’s different, get involved.
                  1. stepka_razin 25 January 2020 06: 30 New
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                    but he is different, take it.

                    Which, $ 20 billionaires are stealing from the budget everywhere and are developing, is there a rabid oligarchy everywhere, and therefore the economy is blooming? )))
                    Let's finish the nonsense, wake up seem smarter)
                    1. Voltsky 25 January 2020 06: 43 New
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                      fabulous money is stolen everywhere, but in some countries they live, and in some they earn. and I wish you the same, stop singing nonsense and open your eyes ... the system itself is vicious, not its separate sections
    2. carstorm 11 25 January 2020 06: 51 New
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      maybe in Soviet? to give a bunch of dough to various countries without any preferences at all, and then these debts on the balance sheet of the country hang as a loss from year to year. that's better? debt is a tool and a dubious debt or which you can return to FIGs can at least be sold. at least for the preference, at least for the thank you. this money will not be returned to you anyway.
  6. Ravil_Asnafovich 25 January 2020 05: 40 New
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    Have you guessed it yourself? Or mattresses prompted?
  7. Kleber 25 January 2020 05: 47 New
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    According to Islamabad, their deployment in a region torn by territorial disputes can lead to an increase in military escalation.


    This is a claim.

    In recent years, Islamabad has been faced with serious financial difficulties, which, according to Indian experts, are able to strengthen the military-technical lag behind its potential adversary.


    And this is the reason for the claim.

    If Islamabad had money, they would have stood in line for the S-400.
  8. The collective farm 25 January 2020 06: 54 New
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    Pakistan sings to the tune of the United States clearly .. Air defense is a defensive weapon that counteracts the pirate raids of the United States and Israel on BV countries.
    And the Indians see this and also want to play it safe and do it right ..
    Look at Erdogan, what he immediately became bullshit with the United States ..
  9. 1536 25 January 2020 07: 36 New
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    Pounds and dollars are a destabilizing factor in this very Asia. pounds and dollars, after receiving which there are all kinds of "concerns".
  10. Grits 25 January 2020 07: 40 New
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    So what is stopping Pakistan from taking and buying the same S-400 from us? So to speak - for balance.
    I feel that the S-400 will soon appear to be nanalogical, like a nuclear weapon - a deterrence weapon. That is, those countries that have them in their arsenal understand that it makes no sense to carry out an air raid on an enemy with a similar air defense system.
  11. rocket757 25 January 2020 08: 40 New
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    Everything, everything, everywhere is interconnected since the fake time was sharply reduced.
    Any one who is not very strong, when he is fond of something with one, the "most important", can whistle through something else ... and then oh and oh!
    However, this does not happen with non-weak ones.
  12. Alexander X 25 January 2020 08: 44 New
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    Simply put:
    Pakistan says: "We can’t attack the country SECURITY WITH 400 from the air! These are the bad S 400 - boost the arms race !!!"
    And do not attack, say the Indians ..
  13. Izotovp 25 January 2020 09: 50 New
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    You can not buy, rent.
  14. Jarserge 25 January 2020 10: 00 New
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    Pakistan in the region is the owner of some of the most powerful air forces. For him, strong air defense is a direct threat, a challenge if you want
  15. Zoldat_A 25 January 2020 10: 17 New
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    Quote: 72jora72
    but I didn’t forget how Pak took part in Afghanistan. And no one who was there forgot.
    And how China helped the spirits, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, the USA, France, Great Britain, Japan (yes, yes, Japan allocated over $ 1979 billion to Pakistan for the period from December 1983 to August 4,1 for training and arming the mujahideen.) you haven’t forgotten about this?

    The main hemorrhoids was exactly the American “Stinger.” The film “9th company” shows how the “Stinger” transport with deibels knocks down.
    otherwise, of course But everything was ??
  16. Vasyan1971 25 January 2020 11: 12 New
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    We believe that such destabilizing systems can undermine the counterbalance system and order in South Asia and lead to an unnecessary arms race

    In short, we believe that taking care of your home’s security is destabilizing!
  17. Old26 25 January 2020 16: 55 New
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    Quote: ANIMAL
    Well, it means that the Hindus made the right choice, there are no systems yet - but loud statements have already been sent by Pakistan.
    Not one International Act can not prohibit the purchase of Defensive systems, which include the S400. Well, the fact that they can control the sky over almost all of Pakistan is a Bonus for Hindus!
    I advise Pakistan to tighten the belt, save up money - and in turn to the C400.

    Nobody will forbid to buy, but the supply of S-400 to India will not add calm and stabilization in this region. The region is fire hazardous, even more fire hazardous than the Iran-Saudi Arabia-Iraq region. Buy India this amount, and 5 regiment sets are planned, the next arms race in the region will begin. And there, don’t say, two nuclear powers. So far, there was enough "intelligence and cleverness" not to use rocket weapons. But buy India S-400 - the next round of the arms race will begin to unwind.

    And in the queue on the S-400 they will not come to us. They were never buyers of Soviet weapons. And from the Russian one - half a hundred MI-171 helicopters and a certain number of Igla MANPADS and 3-4 hundreds of T-80UD sold to them by Ukraine
    And if that - Pakistan will buy from China. For the same money as India - more air defense systems

    Quote: LiSiCyn
    China could, but so far failed to copy. request
    And the Americans, have not been friends with packs lately. Nominally like allies, but they will not sell anything new. Because they know that China will immediately gain access.

    It will take a year, two or three and he will sell to those who wish a copied analogue of the S-400 at cheaper prices

    Quote: Thrifty
    And what do Pakistanis need? The Chinese will help them create or sell their air defense systems, licked from our complexes, visually one to one. And, Islamabad will be armed with a pseudo-analogue of the same C300, from the Chinese military-industrial complex.

    But significantly less expensive than the S-300

    Quote: Rostislav
    The Chinese will sell them. But PAKs have evolved from the fact that they understand the difference between our C300 in India and Chinese pseudo-analogs.

    They also understand that if they buy India S-400 they will have to take measures to counter the threat. And that means more missiles, more expenses. And a new round of the arms race with an unpredictable end result. And the difference is frankly to them a damn. The main thing will be for them the price and the total amount that they can buy for a certain amount.

    Quote: Voletsky
    Government debts are written off solely due to the fact that they will be repaid in another way - preferences in business or in mining, but not otherwise.

    Something is not observed preferences from the cancellation of debts of the same Africa, North Korea, Mongolia ...

    Quote: Alexander X
    Simply put:
    Pakistan says: "We can’t attack the country SECURITY WITH 400 from the air! These are the bad S 400 - boost the arms race !!!" And do not attack, say the Indians ..

    Pakistan has other ways to attack, if that. The same missile weapon. But he is not going to attack. It’s stupid to attack a country that is four times bigger than you in territory and all over the population. But the degree of tension in the supply of S-400 will increase. A new round of arms race will be provided
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    Quote: Vasyan1971
    In short, we believe that taking care of your home’s security is destabilizing!

    Not always everything is straightforward and straightforward. The region is full of weapons, both sides have nuclear weapons. For 73 years of existence - 3 wars and 5 armed conflicts, not counting individual incidents.
    Of course, Pakistan can be understood. India is taking steps to significantly increase the capacity of its air defense. Very fragile balance can be disturbed.
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  19. Old26 25 January 2020 23: 17 New
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    Quote: Mersi
    Old26! You are just a dirty propagandist - quack - Russophobe, working out money for his opus, trying to influence the opinion of other members of the forum! What is also said about the layout of your answers and the answers themselves.

    Unlike you, I have my opinion and uphold it on the basis of specific material, including and on their own knowledge, and not on what and who said it. And at the same time I do not hang up labels for people, being on the resource for only 2 weeks. You don’t even know the story, or you know very poorly. And it would be worth knowing the history of this region and the history of conflicts between the two countries.
    I do not like my opinion (which I do not impose on anyone) - but for God's sake, nobody forcibly forces you to communicate with me. You can ignore my posts, as I ignore a number of members of the forum, because I am not interested in their blindness ...
    And as for Indo-Pakistani relations, you most likely have nothing to say at all, judging by the reaction to my post
    1. thanks 25 January 2020 23: 35 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Unlike you, I have my opinion and uphold it on the basis of specific material, including and
      on own knowledge
      but not on what and who said. Nor do I put labels on people being on the resource for only 2 weeks.
      You don’t even know the story, or you know very poorly.
      And it would be worth knowing the history of this region and the history of conflicts between the two countries.

      Old26! Your opinion is the opinion of a disguised noble duck in VO. I have been on VO since 2015 under the nickname ...! Your knowledge is often equal to zero in air defense systems, air defense systems, radar, and so on. Can you remember how I taught people like you the value of the number M, the radio horizon, radar, S-300, S-400 ...
      You probably have a short memory?
      I will provide members of the forum with information about your opus on VO.
      Unlike you, I know a story no worse than you. From time to time you write nonsense about the minimum height the defeat of Russian anti-aircraft systems, trying to justify the failures of the Patriot air defense system, and when you are caught for an outright lie - and you have nothing to say, trying to get out like a Jew - we don’t have anything, everything is lost and we cannot have ...
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        Sorry, opposition, correctly - disguised.
      2. thanks 26 January 2020 06: 31 New
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        Old26! I do not throw words into the wind. Here are the confirmations of my words above.
        Military Review. News. Topic: US intends to deploy Patriot air defense systems in Iraq to protect against Iran. January 23, 2020.
        Quote: Mersi
        Quote: Old26
        Quote: Kastorkin

        They were also stationed in Saudi Arabia, but they just didn’t react to the missile attack .. The oil refinery was almost completely burned by the Hussites ..

        Not the fact that it is in the area of ​​the refinery Patriots were deployed. In addition, to shoot down drones and cruise missiles reaching 5-10 meters above the desert not even our complexes can do.

        Dear Old26! You're not right!
        C-400 SAM easily affects cruise missiles. Missiles: 9M96E1, 9M96E2, can hit low-flying targets at a height of 5 m [8] (for comparison: the American Patriot complex can only hit targets at a height of at least 60 [b]).
        http://www.rusarmy.com/pvo/pvo_vvs/zur_9m96e_9m96e2.html
        [b] SAM Shell-C1
        it also easily affects cruise missiles, as well as drones - which has been repeatedly demonstrated in Syria. "A feature of the Pantsir-C1 complex is the combination of a multi-channel target capture and tracking system with missile and artillery weapons, creating a continuous target interception zone height (minimum) from 0 m and in range (minimum) of 200 m. Reach in height of 15 km, in range of 20 km [21], even without external support. "
        "The smallest EPR for the complex 2-3 cm² [23]. This allows you to fix small reconnaissance UAVs of short range and destroy. "
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8C-%D0%A11
        .

        Further, the answer of Old26 to my second comment:
        Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)
        Quote: Mersi

        Dear Old26! You're not right! "The Tomahawk missile flies in the mode of enveloping the terrain above the earth's surface at an altitude of 30-60 m (if the terrain is relatively flat) or 150 m (hilly). The on-board computer provides a flight program bypassing the areas of deployment of stationary air defense and missile defense systems. After exiting cruise missiles BGM-109C and D in the target area guidance on the final section of the flight path is carried out by the DSMAC subsystem.
        S-400 air defense missiles easily affects cruise missiles. Missiles: 9M96E1, 9M96E2, can hit low-flying targets at a height of 5 m [8] (for comparison: the American Patriot system is capable of hitting targets only at a height of at least 60 m).
        http://www.rusarmy.com/pvo/pvo_vvs/zur_9m96e_9m96e2.html

        This is not about the Tomahawks or our Caliber missiles. We are talking about the Iranian Quds cruise missiles, which are delivered to the same Yemen. And 3 out of 7 of these missiles crashed while firing at the Khurais field. And they didn’t fly, not because they were shot down corny, but because they crashed due to the very low flight altitude. In the photographs with the debris of these missiles, the surrounding desert is perfectly visible. There are no dunes 5-10 meters high there. Rather, barely noticeable rises.
        Concerning S-400 systems. Have you seen a lot of video frames and photos of the S-400 in the troops with 9M96 missiles. exclusively at exhibitions. In the troops in the plots and photographs only 46N6 family missiles

        Further my answer:
        Quote: Mersi
        Quote: Old26

        We are talking about the Iranian Quds cruise missiles, which are delivered to the same Yemen. And 3 out of 7 of these missiles crashed while firing at the Khurais field. And they didn’t fly, not because they were shot down corny, but because they crashed due to the very low flight altitude.

        Dear Old26! These are only your assumptions and the media, and in the same, that they were completely Iranian. Apparently, the radio altimeter was faulty with the Hussite missiles?

        Quote: Mersi
        Quote: Old26

        As for the S-400 system. Have you seen a lot of video frames and photos of the S-400 in the troops with 9M96 missiles. exclusively at exhibitions. In the troops in the plots and photographs only 46N6 family missiles

        Old26, no need to write your assumptionsrockets: 9М96Е2, 9М96М long been in service since 1999 and the troops - have a minimum target destruction height Nmin = 5 meters. Missiles 48N6 in open sources have a minimum height of defeat Hmin = 10 meters and it will not be surprising if it turns out to be less.

        And here, Stary26, your next “masterpiece” in radar and your next untruth about Russian air defense systems:
        Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)
        Quote: mikstepanenko (Mikhail Stepanenko)

        In addition, to shoot down at a height of 5-10 meters above the desert, drones and cruise missiles are beyond the power of even our complexes.
        Are you sure that this is real, a cruise missile at an altitude of 5 meters?

        The height of the RCC flight above the water runs at approximately this altitude. And this is taking into account the presence of such a factor as waves. Some can even go at a height of 3 meters, of course with calm. How is the desert different from the sea surface? Virtually nothing. Both drones and the Kyrgyz Republic could very well go at such a height, which means below the lower limit of any complex. No, sorry, I was mistaken. The American "eugener" is able to hit them at such a height. And this is due to the fact that he has heavy machine guns in addition to rockets ...

        Carefully, study the characteristics of Russian air defense systems before writing a lie ...
  20. Chingachguk 26 January 2020 21: 00 New
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    That's how it turns out! I can not! And you could not! Otherwise, I will be indignant ....... What is the race? Granny is needed for the race! Here, after all, how. There are grannies, there are C 400, no grannies, no protection ....... It's simple.
  21. acetophenon 27 January 2020 01: 33 New
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    The dagger is good for the one who has it, and bad for the one who does not have it at the right time.