US Space Appetites: “Who Owns Space?”


Among the many speeches made at the World Economic Forum held recently in Davos, Switzerland, a rather unexpected speech by US Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross stands apart. This sovereign husband, from quite pressing and earthly problems, such as global warming or cyber terrorism, discussed at the summit, suddenly soared, literally, to sky-high heights. It turns out that the United States, whose interests Ross represented in Switzerland, are utterly preoccupied with the question of sharing not only the wealth of our planet, but also the outer space. At the same time, Washington is clearly claiming the lion's share of the "extraterrestrial pie", if not the whole thing.


“Who owns the cosmos? Who owns everything that we found there ?! ”- With such a tirade, the US Trade Secretary began his speech on this subject, indicating American space appetites. At the same time, we must assume that “we” means exclusively American astronauts ... Apparently, at NASA today they’re thinking not so much about new expeditions to the Moon or flying to Mars, but about how to get hold of what which is closer to near-Earth orbit and directly asks for it itself. “If someone was the first to arrive at the asteroid, does he get the rights to all the minerals that are there?” How should this even work? ”Ross asks.

At the same time, the representative of Washington directly declares: the current formula “everything that is in space should serve the general welfare of mankind” is a “impractical solution”. “It won’t last so long ...” is a direct quote from the American’s speech. So far, the question of declaring the entire universe to be the property of the United States has not been raised. But this, it seems, is all coming.

It is very significant that the problems of cosmic proportions at the international level are taken up not by the head of NASA or a major scientist, but by the "chief for trade", stressing that recently 80% of the 415 billion dollars of the "global space economy" does not fall to state investments , and just to the "private sector". It is the projects of "private owners", he said, in the future "will dominate government programs." The United States clearly intends to put the space business on a broad footing, not really paying attention to the interests of some kind of “humanity” there. In any case, their Minister of Commerce assured that there has already "begun work on a more accurate assessment of the economic activity of the space industry."

So far, they are still trying to maintain the appearance of decency - Ross, for example, offers all interested states to take up the “development of a regulatory concept” for the future space sharing. As a model, it is proposed to take the law of the sea currently in force on the planet. A dubious idea, if you think about it ... So far, as it became known, this summer in Washington it is planned to hold a “grand summit of space companies” under the auspices of the State Department and the Ministry of Trade to solve a number of important issues in space exploration. Is it planned to invite representatives from other states, at least from Russia and China, or is everyone going to "decide" in a narrow, inner circle, not yet specified. However, there is no doubt - even if there are foreign guests at the planned summit, they will first of all listen to lectures on the "undeniable advantage of the United States" in all aspects of the development of extraterrestrial space.

This is proved by the speeches made last year by the head of NASA Jim Brydenstein, who openly stated that "only the USA can create a coalition to ensure the return of astronauts to the moon." In this, in his deep conviction, lies their role "as a great country and world leader." That is, Washington considers the Earth satellite to be its own patrimony. Asteroids are next in line. After that, the Pentagon created the Space Forces Command and the Space Development Agency last year in a slightly different light. Well, if the Americans intend to profit from near-Earth space, then they will definitely take care of protection from competitors. So far, their aggressive intentions have been held back by the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which prohibits deployment there. weapons mass destruction. However, as we see, Washington is already leading the way to revising this agreement - at least in terms of the inadmissibility of attempts by individual states to “establish sovereignty” over certain celestial bodies. And what would stop him from breaking the entire agreement as the same INF Treaty?

In order to think deeply about the degree of increasing danger of "Star Wars", it suffices to recall the words of Donald Trump that space is nothing more than "the latest dimension for warfare." And also from the fact that "achieving American superiority in it is a vital task."
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  1. WILL 25 January 2020 07: 21 New
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    Democracy - Humanoids, Reptiloids and other Life Forms! belay All must work for the good of America.
    Otherwise, the United States will send the Interstellar Fleet ... and the Death Star! laughing fool
    1. Vladimir_2U 25 January 2020 07: 29 New
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      They have serious applications! But let for starters the gift from the sleepwalkers to the moon be shown! And then many doubt sour.
      1. mark1 25 January 2020 07: 43 New
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        And all in fact will be - who first climbed, that and slippers ... Try to take it later.
        1. sabakina 25 January 2020 08: 02 New
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          Quote: mark1
          And all in fact will be - who first climbed, that and slippers ... Try to take it later.

          Where did you get in? On an asteroid? belay There will not even be white slippers!
          1. mark1 25 January 2020 08: 06 New
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            On any celestial body (or part of its surface) of interest. If someone needs to sit on a stone asteroid - well then this is his choice.
            1. sabakina 25 January 2020 08: 13 New
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              They don’t give out slippers on any celestial body. I assure you of this. And in general, "Everything is already captured before us." wink
              1. mark1 25 January 2020 08: 18 New
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                But for us, let the Americans grieve and we will grow Siberia and the North Pole. wink
                1. Kleber 25 January 2020 08: 51 New
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                  We grew Siberia back in the 16th century. hi
                  1. mark1 25 January 2020 10: 38 New
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                    Not grown and grown. This refers to the statement of Lomonosov - “Russian power will grow in Siberia”
                    1. Kleber 25 January 2020 10: 39 New
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                      The meaning is the same. hi
                      1. mark1 25 January 2020 10: 41 New
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                        Not really. We began to grow (territorially) from the 16th century and grow Siberia (in the sense of power) only from the middle of the 20th.
                    2. Maki Avellevich 25 January 2020 11: 23 New
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                      Quote: mark1
                      Not grown and grown. This refers to the statement of Lomonosov - “Russian power will grow in Siberia”

                      When will it grow already?
                      1. mark1 25 January 2020 11: 41 New
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                        Quote: Maki Avellevich
                        When will it grow already?

                        Duc, it should, when that ... growth ...request
                      2. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 12: 09 New
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                        Quote: Maki Avellevich
                        When will it grow already?

                        This is an ongoing process -
                        will grow.
        2. Alexey LK 27 January 2020 01: 22 New
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          Quote: mark1
          And all in fact will be - who first climbed, that and slippers ... Try to take it later.

          In America, all kinds of Incas and Mayans appeared much earlier than the conquistadors. And the conquistadors appeared there before the British, French, Dutch, Irish and other colonists. Not to mention the representatives of one commercial and financial nationality ... wink And whose slippers are there now?
          1. mark1 27 January 2020 05: 33 New
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            Not a good example, the Incas and other Mayans were born there and therefore they themselves were a part of the “slippers” wink The conquistadors left behind (relatively recently and left) Latin America, the descendants of the British, French, Dutch, Irish and other colonists where they climbed and sit there. And representatives of the commercial and financial nationality should be taken as an inevitable reality, they were, are and will always be independent of the nationality of the sneaker invader. wink
            It’s too early to think in categories of Starfleets and intergalactic wars, everything, at the moment, is in relatively the same conditions - if you could fly and gain a foothold, you mean you have the opportunity to fend for yourself. wink
      2. Lexus 25 January 2020 08: 16 New
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        But let for starters the gift from the sleepwalkers to the moon be shown!

        From Lunokhod-1 and Lunokhod-2 is quite enough. No? So let them realize their lunar sovereignty at a studio in Hollywood.
      3. Beringovsky 25 January 2020 08: 30 New
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        How so doubt?
        Didn’t you watch a movie of Kubrick ?!
        And yay yay ...
        1. solzh 25 January 2020 11: 26 New
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          Quote: Beringovsky
          Didn’t you watch a movie of Kubrick ?!

          Interesting film "Space Odyssey 2001". But a little heavy. I haven’t watched it for a long time. It will be necessary to revise it tonight. Thank you for reminding! wink hi
          1. Vladimir_2U 26 January 2020 05: 49 New
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            Quote: solzh
            Interesting film "Space Odyssey 2001". But a little heavy.
            You take a look at "KO-2010", evolve. )) One Kramarov is the role of an astronaut.
      4. antivirus 25 January 2020 10: 01 New
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        our lagging and patience enables the United States to raise lunatics and then they will give a gift. maybe the ranks will outbid that gift
      5. nickname7 25 January 2020 23: 21 New
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        Why for example extremely costly flights to the moon? For the sake of a flag fly?
        When Columbus discovered a new light, he recouped the expedition with spices. Expensive trips to the new world paid off and made a profit, in gold and spices. And the expedition massively reached there. Similarly, when valuable resources can be found on the moon or in space that can recoup flights, the massive colonization of the moon begins, corporations will not spare any money for expansion. Imagine that the Energy rocket would pay off with a profit, it would be possible to rivet these rockets in series and get rich. In the USA they understood this. The first to receive and establish access to space resources will own the world.
    2. Arkady Gaidar 25 January 2020 17: 09 New
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      [quote = ANCIENTAL] Otherwise, the United States will send the Interstellar Fleet ... and the Death Star! laughing fool[/ Quote]

      Do not send! Anyway now. The analytics is interesting, but it's already yesterday. Today, Americans already have a headache about something else laughing

      [quote = mark1] And everything in fact will be - the first one climbed, that and slippers ... Try to take it later.

      Why choose? Today, the United States already has a gut, so that, contrary to the opinion of other countries, something is appropriated to itself. And this is not an empty bravado in my words. If necessary, I can prove that the Americans are bluffing, trying to "take all for show off." laughing
  2. The collective farm 25 January 2020 07: 27 New
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    Space belongs to the Russians, we were pioneers there .. Yes, and now manned ships only in Russia!
    1. Kleber 25 January 2020 07: 33 New
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      Space is not planet earth. It can not be divided and staked for a separate country.
      1. The collective farm 25 January 2020 07: 38 New
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        Quote: Kleber
        Space is not planet earth. It can not be divided and staked for a separate country.

        Well, this is understandable))) And yet we are pioneers .. And even now, on our ships and engines, space is being mastered in the world ..
        1. donavi49 25 January 2020 09: 09 New
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          Spaniards and Portuguese - were pioneers in the 15-16th centuries. Already in the 19th century - their colonial empires fell apart. But England and France - crushed for themselves, all that is not nailed, although not openly by them. wink
    2. Blackmokona 25 January 2020 09: 31 New
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      The Chinese were surprised
    3. nickname7 25 January 2020 23: 38 New
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      [quote]. We were pioneers there [quote]
      Belongs to the present, not the past. For the fifth year already, the cryocity rover has traveled Mars, the surrounding mountains and craters are named after American scientists, not a single Russian toponym, only Anglicisms. Wake up uncle (or aunt) Mars is Anglo-Saxon.
    4. Alexey LK 27 January 2020 01: 30 New
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      Quote: Collective Farm
      Cosmos belongs to the Russians, we were pioneers there

      Hush, hush! And then, it’s not an hour’s time, they will fly in and explain to whom what belongs there and above which stool we, earthlings, cannot stick out! wink
  3. Jack O'Neill 25 January 2020 07: 33 New
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    Everything belongs to Starfleet.
    But there is a slightly different side, namely, who has longer in space. The answer, it seems to me, is obvious!
    And there are still private traders with a take-off run right up.
    Who has money, technology and brains, he dances space. This scheme will never change, and especially the main resource is money!
    I’ll leave the intrigue, but if you still want to know this secret, then here’s the spoiler.
    1. ML-334 25 January 2020 07: 51 New
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      I am for the mind in the brains and the cosmos are dancing, and even as they are dancing but not we are not human.
      1. sabakina 25 January 2020 08: 17 New
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        Quote: ML-334
        I am for the mind in the brains and the cosmos are dancing, and even as they are dancing but not we are not human.

        By cosmic standards, humanity still walks in a nursery, and this "chief of trade" behaves like in a sandbox in the absence of a teacher.
    2. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 08: 13 New
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      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      I’ll leave the intrigue, but if you still want to know this secret, then here’s the spoiler.

      2019 year, China-34 launch, USA-21 launch. The United States began to squeeze, because China began to push them.
      1. Professor 25 January 2020 08: 40 New
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        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        I’ll leave the intrigue, but if you still want to know this secret, then here’s the spoiler.

        2019 year, China-34 launch, USA-21 launch. The United States began to squeeze, because China began to push them.

        In China, the quantity will not soon turn into quality.
        1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 09: 29 New
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          Quote: Professor
          In China, the quantity will not soon turn into quality.

          China has 2 unsuccessful launches, but nevertheless, the Chinese lunar tractor plows the expanses of the lunar surface. Changzheng-5 launched successfully

          Blaming the poor quality of the Chinese is no longer relevant, they pulled themselves up in this matter.
          What about the Americans? But nothing outstanding in 2019, commercial launches, supply to the ISS.
          The US Starliner could not reach the ISS, and the Dragon Crew exploded during a safety test.
          1. Professor 25 January 2020 09: 48 New
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            The Chinese are doing what others did dozens of years ago. The lag is obvious.
            1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 10: 24 New
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              Quote: Professor
              The Chinese are doing what others did dozens of years ago. The lag is obvious.

              The Chinese lagged behind in almost everything, but in many industries, they, at the moment, have become leaders, what the Americans did dozens of years ago now cannot repeat.
              As part of a new space exploration program announced in 2004, U.S. President George W. Bush assumed it was already in 2008. America will create a new universal manned spacecraft, which subsequently will allow not only to fly to the ISS, but also to explore the moon and Mars.

              For 16 years, with all the power and development of the United States, they can not create a manned ship.
              1. Professor 25 January 2020 13: 39 New
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                Quote: saturn.mmm
                The Chinese lagged behind in almost everything, but in many industries, they, at the moment, have become leaders, what the Americans did dozens of years ago now cannot repeat.

                They are not leaders in anything.

                Quote: saturn.mmm
                For 16 years, with all the power and development of the United States, they can not create a manned ship.

                Have they tried?
                1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 14: 23 New
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                  Quote: Professor
                  They are not leaders in anything.

                  Shipbuilding, information systems, electronic industry, metallurgy.
                  Quote: Professor
                  Have they tried?

                  Yes, they work without hands.
                  1. Professor 25 January 2020 14: 42 New
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                    Quote: saturn.mmm
                    Shipbuilding, information systems, electronic industry, metallurgy.

                    No, not leaders. Again they take in quantity.
                    Shipbuilding - Korea, Japan, information systems-USA, electronic industry-Korea Japan, USA, metallurgy-Japan, USA.

                    Quote: saturn.mmm
                    Yes, they work without hands.

                    Yah? Tell us about manned space projects in the past 16 years, where they "work tirelessly."
                    1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 16: 31 New
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                      No, not leaders. Again they take in quantity.

                      Yes, leaders in quantity.
                      Quote: Professor
                      Yah? Tell us about manned space projects in the past 16 years, where they "work tirelessly."

                      They began with the constellation.
                      1. Aleksandr21 26 January 2020 08: 56 New
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                        They began with the constellation.


                        In fairness, it’s worth adding that the Constellation project was cut off by Democrats led by Obama. But the achievements from the Constellation have not gone away and they went into action, now it can be called the program of Artemis. They finished Orion, SLS is also practically ready, and even so the success of private traders is very large in the space industry. Therefore, objectively, the United States is now the leader in PC development on the moon. The Chinese are significantly lagging behind in this aspect, maybe the situation will change and China will overtake the United States but only in 20-30 years, and then if the Americans stand still and private traders (SpaceX, Blue Origin, etc.) will slow down in development.
                      2. saturn.mmm 26 January 2020 10: 19 New
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                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        Orion they finished

                        Which of the astronauts flew in it?
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        and even so, the success of private traders is very large in the space industry.

                        Please list 5 major major successes.
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        The Chinese are significantly behind in this aspect

                        It will be cool if the Chinese are more likely to land the Americans Americans on the moon.
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        China will overtake the USA but in 20-30 years only

                        Where China was 30 years ago and where now, for the Chinese 30 years is a whole era.
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        private traders

                        For private traders, the basis is profit, Musk is currently focusing his efforts on creating a space Internet network.
                      3. Aleksandr21 26 January 2020 15: 45 New
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                        Quote: saturn.mmm

                        Which of the astronauts flew in it?


                        So far no one, but Orion is in the hardware and we can say that he is ready, they wait only when they will carry out all the tests and tests with SLS. And here, with KK to the moon, the Americans have no competitors, since the Federation (Eagle) for the most part is only ready on paper, and the Chinese counterpart has not yet been created.


                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        Please list 5 major major successes.


                        New LV developments (Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, New Shepard, etc.), spacecraft development (Dragon both in the cargo and future manned versions), development of methane engines (Raptor, BE-4), market capture for launching spacecraft for various purposes. Roscosmos incidentally suffered greatly from this (by commercial orders) ... the expansion of the service market, commercial companies very significantly undermined the monopoly of large corporations (the same Boeing as an example) and now the competition for customers in the same USA is very fierce, and the market is due to private owners growing, because the launch of the spacecraft into orbit is a small part of the entire market. The Green Cat has very good lectures on this topic with graphs on this topic. And this is not to mention future developments, such as (Starship SpaceX), if everything works out there it will be a breakthrough of the century. Oh yeah, about the reusability, the Falcon 9 forgot, also an achievement after all. And all these are the achievements of private traders.


                        Quote: saturn.mmm

                        It will be cool if the Chinese are more likely to land the Americans Americans on the moon.


                        They will not land, at least this year, they will begin building their own orbital station in the likeness of the “World” that we had, and that will be an advance for them. And so the Americans are now closest to a manned flight to the moon, from all countries, this is a fact.

                        Quote: saturn.mmm

                        Where China was 30 years ago and where now, for the Chinese 30 years is a whole era.


                        Yes, but the Chinese are following their plan, and plans to fly to the moon in such a distant future. Of course, everything can change if the party throws extra effort on this, but they won’t surpass Artemis (they simply don’t have time in time) and then, they may really take over the US championship over time, but not for the coming years.

                        Quote: saturn.mmm

                        For private traders, the basis is profit, Musk is currently focusing his efforts on creating a space Internet network.


                        I agree, but with all this, it is a profitable business and it is fashionable in the West. Musk and Bezos for a second are billionaires and invest their money in this area, but they could buy on a yacht, a football club and live in pleasure. And not to say that their direct profit from the space sphere was cosmic, but apparently they are driven by the prospect, all the same, space is a very promising direction, but in the distant future.
                2. vadimtt 26 January 2020 10: 55 New
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                  With metallurgy, you are a little behind life. In your list, boldly change the USA to Korea hi
  • rocket757 25 January 2020 08: 12 New
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    Excellence is cool!
    Here they can try to build the principle - Whoever does not have time can leave his teeth on the shelf, he will have no chance for us. Everything will be protected by an astro cowboy with an astro colt!
  • Charik 25 January 2020 08: 24 New
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    As if no one lives in space and on other planets, let them try to fight for resources there
    1. donavi49 25 January 2020 09: 15 New
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      Well, in our system there are only shrimps and crustaceans on Enceladus and Europe in the most optimistic version. But rather, all sorts of elementary organisms. And these bodies themselves are scientifically interesting. And flying there is long and boring.

      Here is to catch what kind of asteroid, to drag it with a gravitational tractor (it will just take 20-30 years that will be required to assemble the orbital mine), and then dig there on a rotational basis. It is quite real. Deliver to the ground will still be more expensive. But to use in orbital construction or, say, in the lunar base = cheaper. Plus prices fall every 10-15 years. Fossils will rise in price, for they are exhaustible on the planet. Say, in 150-200 years, it will already be economically viable to transport them to the earth from closely pulled asteroids.
      1. mark1 25 January 2020 11: 32 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        Deliver to the ground will still be more expensive

        It is necessary to deliver to the customer as a whole, the main thing is to take a good aim.
      2. Mityay65 26 January 2020 16: 29 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        And flying there is long and boring.

        And the so-called abandoned millions of years in the asteroid belt are alien starships? I’m sure there is something there! In any case, it is necessary to explore all the secluded nooks of the solar system.
        Quote: donavi49
        Fossils will rise in price, for they are exhaustible on the planet.

        Extraction of minerals on celestial bodies is a blessing ... alas. Not very soon.
  • Free wind 25 January 2020 09: 02 New
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    Comet Galileo who needs it, 70000 rubles, bargaining is appropriate lol
    1. Octopus 25 January 2020 11: 02 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      Comet Galileo

      Halley, Edmund Holly. Edmond Halley.
  • U-58 25 January 2020 09: 04 New
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    The minister with the "Russian praise" is right.
    That is, of course, he is not right, but he is right.
    Occupying a leading position in the number of launches, having excessive capabilities in creating carriers and payloads, having in the tradition the Monroe postulate "America for Americans", this comrade voiced a very definite trend in the use of outer space.
    What and why, voiced.
    How to resist?
    Inwardly, Russia will again want to trample dusty paths on distant planets.
    Double, triple the financing of space.
    Clearly set goals and objectives to be solved in this direction, but do not get stuck in the so-beloved Rogozin Hangar.
    Externally, through the partnership of Russia, China, and India, to develop broad international cooperation in space exploration.
    To create favorable conditions for third countries to enter into such cooperation, to lure them to their side ...
    Here is the same North Korea.
    In exchange for our nuclear umbrella, invite them to rivet the details of space rockets and dvigataly, to earn money for the country instead of defense spending.
    Build a spaceport in the south of the country.
    What would be for comrade Kim didn’t like this offer?
    And South Korea would surely have got a hold of it.
    In this case, the rapprochement of the North and the South could become a side effect.

    But there is a fad: what is our financial and economic system capable of at the same time?
    What can we “pull” while we need to pull a lot and expensively? ..
  • Ros 56 25 January 2020 09: 50 New
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    Only those who can get there and work there, in short, to everyone and to no one individually.
  • shubin 25 January 2020 10: 17 New
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    I've been carried away by Elite Dangerous in my old age! laughing
  • GenNick 25 January 2020 10: 44 New
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    Quote: Collective Farm
    Space belongs to the Russians, we were pioneers there .. Yes, and now manned ships only in Russia!

    For those who belong to the Soviet space theme, we were pioneers there ....
  • Vasily Ponomarev 25 January 2020 10: 56 New
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    since the US is so arrogant why do Roscosmos not want to abandon the joint construction of the lunar ISS, or does politics end when normal NASA denyushki appear?
    1. My doctor 25 January 2020 20: 03 New
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      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      do not want to abandon the joint construction

      blood from the eyes.
  • Octopus 25 January 2020 11: 10 New
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    Another political crap. Ross’s short and understandable phrase is taken, the sentences are rearranged, a military schism is added from the author’s head and, please, Russophobia on the march.

    Ross not said, but said in between a completely banal and long-discussed thing. The space normative was developed during the years of the competition of the two systems and has long been outdated. In a situation where private owners conduct most of the space activities, a private-oriented regulatory framework should be developed so that legal conflicts do not arise. The fact that while Cosmos is a gray zone in the sense of commercial law prevents private traders from investing in it.
  • Slon379 25 January 2020 11: 25 New
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    Probably not just saying so, probably already bought the entire lunar elite (((
  • NordUral 25 January 2020 12: 24 New
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    Anglo-Saxons - everything and everywhere, as always in history, force, kill and rob
    So far, they are still trying to maintain the appearance of decency - Ross, for example, offers all interested states to take up the "development of a regulatory concept" for the future space sharing. As a model, it is proposed to take the law of the sea currently in force on the planet. A dubious idea, if you think about it ...

    True, for the development of the resources of the Cosmos, humanity, and the States themselves and K, must survive.
  • Knell wardenheart 25 January 2020 13: 22 New
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    A guy identified an absolutely correct and relevant problem. And spitefulness about this is unnecessary.
    Today it is very clearly visible that “all of humanity” as a kind of unity is a pure myth, a fairy tale that has been littered since the founding of the UN. A kind of empty wording that has lost its essence bit by bit and consistently - since the time of the victory over Nazism.
    In fact, there are large countries with personal space programs that are increasingly considering space as a hypothetical “ace up the sleeve” - even if not at this moment even, but in the near future.
    For example, Japan crawled forward in missions on asteroids for nothing - their interest in securing access to resources and rare-earth resources in the future - because they understand that the proximity to China and relations with Russia and neighbors - puts them in conditions of a slow subsidence of their economic relics.
    We are also interested in the extraction of resources in space - there are the appetites of our atomic lobby and the eyes of our raw materials, but what is there, our country has historically loved to rake in for itself, but more, for a "rainy day".
    Finally, there is China, which clearly pursues extremely practical goals in space, far from the scientific and military euphoria of NASA projects. The growing power of China and the isolation of its space program also hint at the option when at the right time this country can unilaterally “grab” something, using general UN paralysis and its earthly economic leverage as support.

    So what the American says business. Who first got up and boots. Our dissatisfaction on this subject can be explained - we are not in a hurry to send anything further than the Earth’s orbit for about 35 years. And from the realization that alien devices are moving around Mars or asteroids for years - and the American may soon set foot on the moon again - we are sour and uncomfortable.
    However, the time to join the race and not wave claws, IMHO.
    1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 17: 47 New
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      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Our dissatisfaction on this subject can be explained - we are not in a hurry to send anything further than the Earth's orbit for 35 years.

      ExoMars
      Date, Time Event Status
      March 14, 2016 at 12:31 MSC Launch of the spacecraft (“window” March 14-25) Success [42]
      March 14, 2016 at 23:13 MSC Separation of the upper stage from the Success satellite [43]
      March 15, 2016 at 00:28 Moscow time Control transfer to the European Space Flight Control Center, solar cells unveiling, receiving the first signal from the device by the ESA ground station in Malindi Success [44]
      April 5 and 6, 2016 Switching on and testing of Russian scientific instruments on the TGO apparatus Success [42]
      On April 7, 2016, the spacecraft took the first shot of a random portion of the sky. Success [45]
      April 22, 2016 Scheduled performance check of the Russian spectrometric complex ACS Success [46]
      On June 13, 2016, the spacecraft photographed Mars from a distance of 41 million km. Success [47]
      June 14-16, 2016 Re-checks of the ACS Russian spectrometric complex for the study of atmospheric chemistry of Mars Success [48]
      July 28, 2016 A large correction of the trajectory that directed TGO to Mars Success [49]
      August 11, 2016 The second planned correction of the trajectory of the spacecraft of the Russian-European mission ExoMars-2016. Success [50]
      October 14, 2016 The third planned correction of the trajectory of the spacecraft of the Russian-European mission ExoMars-2016. Success [51]
      October 16, 2016 Branch of the Skiaparelli demonstration landing module. Success [52]
      October 19, 2016 Landing of Schiaparelli; TGO orbiter passes into orbit of Mars satellite TGO success, Schiaparelli accident [15]
      January 19, 23 and 27, 2017 Change in the inclination of the TGO orbit from 7 ° to 74 ° Success [53]
      March 2017 — February 20, 2018 TGO inhibition of the upper atmosphere Success [54] [55]
      February-April 2018 Correction of the orbit to 400 km Success [56]
      April 21, 2018 Beginning of the implementation of the TGO Success scientific program [57]
      January 2021 TGO begins to function as a repeater station for the Mars rover and an automatic Martian station.
      December 2022 End of Flight Expected
      1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 17: 56 New
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        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        And from the realization that somewhere on Mars or asteroids alien vehicles have been rolling for years - and the American may soon set foot on the moon again - we are sour and uncomfortable.

        Do not be sad July 25, 2020, a flight to Mars is expected under the ExoMars program, even though the tractor itself will be European Russia in action.
        1. Knell wardenheart 25 January 2020 19: 04 New
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          As the story with Phobos-Grunts showed, it’s early to “not grieve” until the time is postponed, until the apparatus is started, until the apparatus leaves the orbit of the earth, and finally, until the apparatus reaches the target, it has slipped through it and made a successful landing.
          The partial mission suffered a previous mission (Schiaparelli crashed on landing) - well, since we are now happy just for a successful flight to Mars, it’s worth remembering that even the Indians can do this ..
          I will be very pleased if everything goes smoothly in the year 20, there is no doubt that if this is the case, our propaganda will squeeze the maximum out of this news. However, now even in case of success (something that has not even begun) - we are still at the first cells of the big game, and given our pace and the apparent lack of power to take space seriously (as early as about 20 years) - while everything is so BAD, that I can’t share your optimism and seek out the green peas of success in the total mass of facts ..
      2. Knell wardenheart 25 January 2020 18: 56 New
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        Well, the right word, this is such "progress" after what we did in Soviet times! ) When the completely Soviet FIRST WORLDWIDE devices flew to Mars / Moon / Venus / Halley's comet. And now you are taking out this, about the ExoMars 2016, where from “ours” there were 2 devices and a rocket, with the help of which everything else was launched from Earth? Well, I don’t know, it’s as if to consider that all American launches made with the help of RD-180 are a victory for the Russian cosmonautics.
        It looks very cool and powerful against the backdrop of the "New Horizons", the American galaxy of Mars rovers working for YEARS, the same Japanese "Hayabusa", but what is there, of the same China, landing its moon rover on the back of the Moon.
        No, of course, if you really want to find some kind of positive movement with us, you can find it. But here it seems like serious people - and if you look seriously, then against the background of competitors, we have been picking our fingers in the ass for almost two generations. The spectrum of the RG is probably the only thing to be proud of, and even that has very little to do with the problem of this topic — namely, that we will soon miss the sharing of the near space — and now we have neither time, nor modern technologies, nor carriers, no money, no will. There is only nuclear missiles and the habit of shaking it all to epileptic seizures every time you feel in the air that we are on the sidelines of a story ..
        1. saturn.mmm 25 January 2020 20: 39 New
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          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          we are still in the first cells of the big game

          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Well, the right word, this is such "progress" after what we did in Soviet times

          The USSR has not existed for 30 years. One can rejoice that astronautics as a branch did not disappear in the 90s, in the zero years, in debt over the ears, you won’t be dispersed either, so yes, in the first cells.
          New Horizons, Mars rovers, but did not land on Venus.
  • stroybat ZABVO 25 January 2020 17: 32 New
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    In the photo at the beginning of the article stars are visible .....
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    I will try to translate the idea of ​​the author of the article, Alexander (who is far from understanding the process), into an accessible legal language for business in space.
    And the question just falls within the competence of the US Department of Commerce and other countries, and not NASA. NASA (or private traders) is a tool for the extraction and delivery of mineral resources from the surface of the moon and asteroids. Situation - NASA on the Moon mined and delivered (for its grandmas) 100 tons of “something”, and this “something” to whom should belong? Every country on earth? In what proportion? And if this "something" NASA wants to sell, then share the profit with all countries? Do not forget that NASA spent government money on production. And now the same case, but not NASA flew / mined / brought, but a private trader. He spent his $$$! How does he do business with other private traders or countries?
    Does the author of the article have an answer? What about readers? That is why the US Department of Commerce offers to work together to find some kind of solution. If you read some comments, then the Americans (and not only them!) Must pay Russia royalties for the first satellite, for Popov’s radio waves, for Mendeleev’s chemical table, and I like such jokes. But seriously, stress can arise due to the division of territories on planets and asteroids. Lunar regolith contains a lot of minerals and, moreover, it contains oxygen / hydrogen in such a quantity that, having obtained it, it is possible to refuel rockets. And then how to score the rights to the production site?
    There are no answers, and the author of the article does not even pose a problem, leading everything to frenzied anti-Americanism.
    And further. Americans live in a different dimension than Russia. Americans are sure that in a year or two they will fly to the ISS (there are rockets and are being tested), in 3-4 years they will fly to the Moon, and by 2030 they will build a base there. Those. they are sure of it! Therefore, they raise questions about the property obtained now, today, to know how to do it right. And in Russia today they are discussing another carrier (or its modernization), which can take off by the year 2025. And every month a new carrier and new dates. From this oil painting, you feel the difference in approach to space - where is the USA and where is Russia?
    1. eklmn 25 January 2020 18: 40 New
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      By the way, yesterday a subcommittee of the US Senate on Outer Space passed bill НР 5666 (and will allocate $$$) entitled “To Mars through the Moon”. According to the project, by 2028 the expedition should be on the moon, and by 2033 - a flight to Mars.
  • cniza 25 January 2020 18: 57 New
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    So far, the question of declaring the entire universe to be the property of the United States has not been raised. But this, it seems, is all coming.


    They will choke, there is no doubt.
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    SpaceX: The Crew Dragon ship is detached from the Falcon 9 during today's tests, which confirmed the ability of the spacecraft to deliver astronauts to a safe place in the event of an emergency during flight.

    1. eklmn 26 January 2020 00: 05 New
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      SpaceX specifically blew up the last stage a few seconds after separation, because it was impossible to return it - it was her fourth flight and there was a lot of fuel left in it.
      But it looks really beautiful ...!
      Thank you for the video...
  • KBaHT_BpeMeHu 26 January 2020 11: 22 New
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    So far, the most valuable thing in space is the earth's orbit, and while it serves the general well-being of mankind. Then maybe the Moon, but everything else is a very distant prospect ...
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    Victory in space is forged on earth. He who is strong on earth is strong in space. Who owns the Earth is the master of space and the moon. Have you signed up for astronauts ?! In vain.