The second largest seaport of Ukraine is transferred to foreigners in concession

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After reports that the Ukrainian railways will come under the control of the German company Deutsche Bahn for a period of 10 years with all the consequences for the country's budget, another comes from the territory of Ukraine news of a similar nature. Today it became known that the second largest seaport of this country is transferred to the concession management of a foreign company.

We are talking about the port "Olbia" of the city of Nikolaev. The Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine announced that this seaport will be operated in the format of a concession by the Qatari company QTerminals. Within 5 years, as the aforementioned agency reported, Qatari businessmen are going to invest UAH 3,4 billion (about 8,5 billion rubles) in Olbia (Oktyabrsk).



It is reported with particular pride:

The annual amount of concession payments will amount to 82 million UAH, which is 16 times higher than the profit of the port.

What is proud of here is not entirely clear. Indeed, the current low profit of the port and the willingness to work for companies from Qatar in it indicate that the potential of the port is huge and representatives of the Middle East state will already be in control of this potential.

According to the head of the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine, Mr. Crikli, “a concession is not a sale, but a development with the ability to attract the best to meet the challenges of the market.

After such words of the Minister, Ukrainian users suggested not stopping and concessioning the whole of Ukraine “in order to meet market challenges”.

A few comments from the Ukrainian segment of social networks on the topic of transferring the port and railways of Ukraine to foreigners:

For six years we have been told that Russia has taken away the Crimea, and that they demand it be returned. And now, with their own hands, they give the country's strategic assets to foreigners!

Tomorrow they will transfer to concession all of us - citizens of Ukraine. They say: it is economically more profitable.

They cannot manage the port and the railways, but how are they going to rule the country? Or maybe they don’t control, huh?
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  1. +18
    24 January 2020 17: 37
    Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity! First Railways, now Port ... what tomorrow?
    1. +15
      24 January 2020 17: 39
      Quote: ANIMAL
      what tomorrow?

      The native earth will go.
      1. +30
        24 January 2020 17: 41
        Yeah, apparently everything goes to this! fool
        It is amazing to lose half of the Country, to distribute the remaining half in concessions ... and call it Victory of the Maidan?
        1. +2
          24 January 2020 17: 49
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Yeah, apparently everything goes to this! fool

          They say the year will last as long as possible .. And then we will begin to share.!
          1. +3
            24 January 2020 18: 11
            They say the year will last as long as possible .. And then we will begin to share.!

            Yeah, as they say for about 5 years.
            1. +10
              24 January 2020 19: 29
              Quote: alexmach
              Yeah, as they say for about 5 years.

              As the classic said, "only cats are born quickly." And on the question of the viability of Ukraine, you see "damned commies", they left such a backlog that they have been selling for 30 years, and there is still left. Cancer patients also do not die immediately. For a long time they can still walk, talk, pretend to be a healthy person, when the metastases have already eaten from the inside. So in Ukraine, the disease has completely eaten away the body, one shell remained. I am not even talking about the economy. The peak of everything, this is when comedians are brought to power, this is already such a bottom that there is nowhere else to go. And in Ukraine, nothing, many say, "like a sho, cool." fool
            2. +4
              24 January 2020 19: 32
              They cannot manage the port and the railways, but how are they going to rule the country? Or maybe they don’t control, huh?

              Well, there are sensible people in Ukraine yet. Guess at least.
              1. +5
                24 January 2020 21: 51
                Quote: krot
                Well, there are sensible people in Ukraine yet.

                A Ukrainian priest insulted and scandalously expelled from the church the family of a soldier who died in Donbass. The mother of the serviceman told about this to the "Army.Inform" publication.
                Nadezhda Popovich with her grandchildren came to the birthday of her son Denis, who died during the battles for Donetsk airport. She tried to order a memorial service, but the priest refused. According to the woman, he drove the family “under the fence” and threw a shovel at her grandchildren, and called her late son “fratricide”.
                Popovich added that her whole family used to go to this church, but for six months the local priests did not want to see them and did not allow them to honor the memory of the murdered.
                Her son Denis Popovich with the call sign "Dandy" was a grenade launcher in the 40th tactical aviation brigade of the combined air force squad of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) "Wild Duck". He died on January 22, 2015.
                1. 0
                  25 January 2020 14: 43
                  if this is true - then ass respect.
                  1. +3
                    25 January 2020 17: 22
                    Quote: Deathmaker
                    if this is true - then ass respect.

                    I see no reason not to believe the news.
                    https://armyinform.com.ua/2020/01/maty-poleglogo-soldata-denysa-popovycha-zvernulas-do-prezydenta-z-prohannyam-vgamuvaty-svyashhennyka/
                  2. 0
                    26 January 2020 10: 40
                    Pop above God imagines himself?
            3. +2
              26 January 2020 13: 49
              As Classic said - the financial hole is the deepest, you can fall into it all your life, but still not know its bottom.
        2. +29
          24 January 2020 17: 53
          Quote: Trevis
          The native earth will go.

          Quote: ANIMAL
          apparently everything goes to this!

          I recalled a joke:
          "The Russian army went out with the Mongol-Tatars to fight. And Peresvet went out, and Chelubey went out. And Chelubey hit Peresvet with his club on the helmet. And Peresvet's legs went knee-deep into the ground. And Peresvet Chelubey hit the head with a mace. And Chelubey's legs went away. knee-deep in ... ass. For the Russian land does not accept the feet of the Basurmans! " wink
          1. +11
            24 January 2020 18: 47
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            And Chelubey’s legs kneeled in his ... ass.

            laughing It is a pity that Peresvet the second time Chelubey did not grunt with a mace, so that his head would also go into the ass. Yes Pasha, hello!
            1. +1
              24 January 2020 21: 07
              Victor, hi! hi
              Quote: Tersky
              It is a pity that Peresvet the second time Chelubey did not grunt with a mace, so that his head would also go into the ass.

              Will come again - will receive. But no, we will help! bully
          2. -1
            24 January 2020 23: 29
            And I remembered how Vladimir Putin, lounging in his chair at the annual press conference (in 2006 or 2007), when asked about benefits for war veterans, answered a joke "about veterans of the Battle of Kulikovo": "By the way, does he know anyone that before the beginning of the Battle of Kulikovo there were equally armed and equipped Tatar cavalry on both sides? " (close to the text). The audience was tensely silent. In the evening, on repeat, the television skillfully cut this episode! ... In this battle, the Russians participated on both sides. This is perhaps the first example of a civil war in history! Including, so-so anecdote.
        3. -6
          24 January 2020 18: 10
          Well, they probably realized that they themselves were plundered without options due to a genetic predisposition. Whatever they say, in the West there is no such craving for “we need to grab everything we can,” therefore it is reliable that at least the degree of corruption around the enterprise will decrease. Time will tell.
          1. +1
            24 January 2020 19: 32
            ... in the West there is no such craving for "you need to have time to grab everything that is possible" ...

            They will have this craving for more, take off the "rose-colored glasses".
            1. -3
              24 January 2020 19: 58
              There, colonels of zarchinka are arrested once a week, and they do not have time to beat chambers in Zhitomir. Stop fooling around.
            2. +2
              25 January 2020 14: 45
              in the west it is customary to steal someone else's. skakly steal their own.
      2. +1
        24 January 2020 17: 49
        Quote: Trevis
        Quote: ANIMAL
        what tomorrow?

        The native earth will go.

        Not. They will sell their native land at all.
      3. +2
        24 January 2020 18: 02
        Quote: Trevis
        The native earth will go.

        As they say "Once such a booze has gone ..."
      4. +1
        24 January 2020 18: 09
        she herself and the Slaves will go.
    2. 0
      24 January 2020 17: 53
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity!
      One thing can be said: By the will of the Almighty, the believer walks with dignity according to his fate.
      1. +1
        24 January 2020 17: 56
        Piously said. hi
    3. 0
      24 January 2020 18: 38
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity! First Railways, now Port ... what tomorrow?

      They remove from the control of some and put others ... the dough cycle in nature))
    4. -5
      24 January 2020 18: 45
      Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity!
      There is a rather twofold interpretation .. If you look, in fact .. either the land / plants / factories / steamers will rot and rust, or ... Actually someone enters into agreements, builds factories, invites investors .. they develop, etc. Actually, why doesn’t anyone resent that AvtoVAZ, for example, is essentially a foreign company? It somehow pulls on double standards. In any case, this is their own business. Discussing which of course is interesting and exciting, but it's like with TV shows ..
    5. +3
      24 January 2020 19: 23
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity! First Railways, now Port ... what tomorrow?

      I would add Ukrainian comments: - "Gentlemen, foreign capitalists, power in Ukraine is not eternal, and when the people of Ukraine come to power, we will denounce all agreements signed by the previous authorities, know about this before buying up land, ports, railways and others. goodies.
    6. +2
      24 January 2020 19: 34
      Mass sale started. It should be understood that the Kuevo clever people understood that the Banderland project is coming to its logical conclusion and it is necessary, in the end, "with a black sheep, even a tuft of wool."
    7. +4
      24 January 2020 21: 21
      Ukraine entirely "in concession" wassat
    8. +4
      24 January 2020 21: 47
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Well, just an auction of unprecedented generosity! First Railways, now Port ... what tomorrow?

      All for sale!
    9. DRM
      -5
      25 January 2020 00: 34
      . This is about the article. And people hawala.
  2. +3
    24 January 2020 17: 42
    But how to take a couple of provinces of Ukraine into concession, at the expense of Ukraine itself? ?? recourse lol
    1. +1
      24 January 2020 18: 00
      Quote: Thrifty
      And how to take a concession a couple of Ukrainian provinces, at the expense of Ukraine itself?

      To do this, take German citizenship.
    2. +7
      24 January 2020 18: 07
      You come with a passport of some "civilized and advanced" country, better than the United States, a suitcase of cookies and they will sell you land together with slaves))) Only in the west of the country, do not take it, there Hungarians and Romanians will wring it out. hi
  3. +9
    24 January 2020 17: 47
    Chernozem will be exported on dry cargo ships. Everyone sold codon durils ..
    The next stage I think will be .. the cry "Save Russia", we were brothers and we agree to everything ..
    And I already do not want to save something (except for the Donbass, we survived!), It’s just disgusting at heart.
    1. +3
      24 January 2020 18: 30
      Quote: 1001
      The next stage I think will be .. the cry "Save Russia", we were brothers and we agree to everything.

      Brothers are brothers, but they love to do dirty tricks. Remember who helped the Poles in their campaigns against Moscow under the various False Dmitrys and the "Seven Boyars".
    2. +1
      24 January 2020 20: 16
      Quote: 1001
      Chernozem will be exported on dry cargo ships. Everyone sold codon durils ..
      The next stage I think will be .. the cry "Save Russia", we were brothers and we agree to everything ..

      And what is there to save after all these jumps and bouncing? fellow In other words, I drank my family, apartment and property. Became homeless wassat without land and tribe, and now save !!!!? Of course we will save, launder, dress, heal .. soldier . And who will cure their brains? am
  4. -3
    24 January 2020 17: 49
    A port is not only money, you need to invest in port infrastructure.
    The state budget is not rubber, it is necessary to attract foreign business. This is an axiom.
    1. +4
      24 January 2020 18: 01
      Quote: maden.usmanow
      It is an axiom.

      this is idiocy 3 lyama per year this is the price of a not very large livestock farm
  5. +1
    24 January 2020 17: 49
    But why distort and exaggerate everything. Wishful thinking. No matter how we treat our smaller brothers - Oukraintsy, there is no concession for Deutsche Bahn there. There is only audit support. Under no "nightmares" and "gingerbreads" pragmatists from Deutsche Bahn will not take responsibility for the Ukrainian Railways and the Ports attached to them. Not oh-you. And here is something to count and audit for a "modest" remuneration - so happy!
    1. +2
      24 January 2020 17: 56
      And the port for export from Ukraine will remain after the audit.
      1. 0
        24 January 2020 18: 01
        Yes "Olvia" is the future Chinese fiefdom. All the fuss is about the price, where the Deutsche Bahn guys will haggle.
  6. +7
    24 January 2020 17: 49
    "Dear, we have joy, I rented out! Now everyone will have me!"
  7. +11
    24 January 2020 17: 53
    .. port "Olbia"

    It was founded in 1992. It was designed for the processing of specialized cargoes, mainly military equipment. Today it is one of the most modern ports in Ukraine. In Soviet times, “Oktyabrsk” was used to send military goods and retained this specialization until recently.

    The number of cargo berths is 14 (including the berth for handling ro-ro vessels), the length of the cargo berth front is 3,123 kilometers, the declared draft in the port is 10,5 m. The depths and length of the berth line allow you to receive vessels of length up to 250 meters, width up to 40 m, deadweight up to 80 thousand tons.
    So Qatar grabbed a very good piece
    1. +7
      24 January 2020 18: 05
      Here it’s rather not Qatar, but the USA and their desire to have a military base in Nikolaev ... and Qatar is just a screen ..
      1. +2
        24 January 2020 18: 41
        Quote: Sapsan136

        Here it’s rather not Qatar, but the USA and their desire to have a military base in Nikolaev ... and Qatar is just a screen ..

        It is likely that the location is good; it was not in vain that during the times of the USSR they created the port of Oktyabrsk for military cargo.
    2. +1
      24 January 2020 18: 09
      Qatar is one of the contenders. But the buyer (shareholder) will be a Chinese company.
      1. +2
        24 January 2020 18: 57
        It is unlikely, since the USA building a military base in Nikolaev, they will tolerate China there ...
    3. 0
      24 January 2020 22: 04
      Quote: Silvestr
      So Qatar grabbed a very good piece

      10 largest concessions of the past
      The authorities of the Russian Empire and the USSR repeatedly lured foreign investors with concession agreements.
      Tsarskoye Selo Railway

      In 1836, an Austrian engineer Franz Gerstner received a concession for the construction of Russia's first railway between St. Petersburg and Tsarskoye Selo.
      Siemens & Halske

      In 1852, the German company Siemens & Halske received an order for the construction and operation of telegraph networks in Russia. In 1867, the telegraph contract ended and the company switched to other activities. She set up electric lighting in St. Petersburg and Moscow, laid tram lines, built a cable and electrical plant, several power plants. After the revolution, all Siemens enterprises were nationalized.
      Great Northern Telegraph Society

      In 1869, the Danish Great Northern Telegraph Society (BSTO) received a concession for laying an underwater telegraph line from Denmark to Russia. Until 1917, it managed to draw telegraph lines through Russia, connecting Europe with Japan and China.
      Bell Concession

      In 1881, a little-known engineer Vladimir von Baranov received a concession for telephoning large cities in Russia. A year later, the company was bought by the American company Alexander Bell.
      Royal Dutch Shell Oil Concessions

      In 1910, the Anglo-Dutch Royal Dutch Shell acquired a concession and began oil production in the Grozny region. She quickly expanded her business by acquiring a number of companies, including the Rothschilds oil assets. In 1915, Shell and its main competitors accounted for more than 50% of oil production in Russia. By 1917, Shell’s total oil production in Baku, Grozny and the Urals reached 1,45 million tons. After the Bolsheviks came to power, all oil assets were nationalized.
      Hammer Concessions

      In 1921, the son of one of the founders of the US Communist Party, Armand Hammer, engaged in the supply of grain to Russia in exchange for fur and caviar. In the same year, after a personal meeting with Lenin, he received asbestos mine in the Urals for concession.
      Junkers Aircraft Manufacturing

      In 1923, the German company Junkers received a 30-year concession for the Russo-Balt plant in Fili, pledging to organize the production of 300 aircraft per year. For three years the company has created only about 100 aircraft Ju-20 and Ju-21, unsuitable for combat use. Obligations to organize the production of duralumin and aircraft motors were not fulfilled. On this basis, in 1927 the concession was liquidated.. However, the remaining drawings and equipment allowed the USSR to begin production of its all-metal aircraft.
      Manganese mining in Georgia

      In June 1925, the firm of American diplomat and industrialist Averell Harriman entered into an agreement for 20 years for the extraction of manganese in Chiatura. Soon, the company accounted for 75% of manganese exports from the USSR.
      Lena gold mines

      In 1925, the Soviet government gave the British firm Lena Goldfields the right to mine gold and metals in Siberia for up to 50 years. Including the company received in concession the Lena gold mines belonging to it before the revolution, where in 1912 the workers' strike was suppressed. Lena Goldfields mined up to 30% of gold in the USSR.
      Japanese concessions on Sakhalin

      In 1925, after establishing diplomatic relations with Tokyo, Moscow granted Japanese companies concessions for coal and oil production in northern Sakhalin for a period of 45 years. The agreements, which had political goals in addition to economic ones, continued to be valid after the liquidation of other concessions in the USSR - they were canceled only in 1944. During this time, Japan produced 2 million tons of oil and 1,6 million tons of coal on Sakhalin.
      Concessions were necessary for the speedy restoration of the industry destroyed by "war communism", primarily its export-oriented industries; to borrow the latest technology at that time; and to attract competent administrative and engineering personnel for the period of training of their own personnel.

      Perhaps concessions on the outskirts are a way out for its economy, a way out of the "pit" where they have driven themselves. hi
  8. +4
    24 January 2020 18: 00
    The annual amount of concession payments will amount to 82 million UAH, which is 16 times higher than the profit of the port.

    They want to say that the profit of the port is $ 200000 a year ?!
  9. 0
    24 January 2020 18: 06
    They plundered all material values, and now, in parts, they began to sell Ukraine itself, they sold one port and they will sell another, a matter of time.
  10. +6
    24 January 2020 18: 08
    Strange tone of the author. Potemkin's city is given to all "Saracens". The Russian Federation is so weak that only inappropriate humor can squeeze out of this fact. In Russia itself, it is difficult to determine who owns the airports, mineral resources and gas.
    ps Submit this story to M. Skabeeva and K.
    1. +3
      24 January 2020 18: 15
      Quote: samarin1969
      Potemkin's city is given to all "Saracens"

      earlier this port belonged to the Russian businessman Novinsky, who became Ukrainian
    2. 0
      24 January 2020 21: 49
      Quote: samarin1969
      inappropriate humor

      Humor, just right. When their economy was actively sold out (in the 90s), with the humor in the country, in general, it was even more excellent.
      Here we have an inverse relationship - the worse, the more we joke
  11. -1
    24 January 2020 18: 08
    Yes, every second port in the world is given for concession. Here the Greeks gave the port of Piraeus for a billion euros to the Chinese for concession. Israel also gave some sort of port (forgot) again to the same Chinese.

    What, from Israel or Greece will the zemlyashka in bulk carriers be exported? At our concessions, foreign concerns are given the airport of Sofia, thermal power stations, landmines, or something else. Or do we need to kick the same Lukoil out of the Burgas refinery, to which they even sold it, so that it would not raise gas prices? Or take away from the Russians the complex in Kamchia, which was first at the concession? Yes, half of the Russian business in Bulgaria is being built on concessions and what, has it taken out a lot of black soil?

    I am simply amazed at the number of myths that live among Russians. Eto in the 21st century does not understand the mind ...
    1. +2
      24 January 2020 20: 06
      I am simply amazed at the number of myths that live among Russians.

      Myths of all nations have enough.
      The VO Forum is a platform where a commentator is not required to justify his point of view. Therefore, the concentration of judgments based on emotions and not supported by specific knowledge is higher here than in society as a whole (where, at times, they may be required to "answer for the bazaar").
      1. -1
        24 January 2020 20: 20
        Myths of all nations have enough.


        Dam, I agree, of course ....

        concentration of judgments based on emotions ...


        When I meet home-grown "Velikobolgars" and try to roll them into a very thin pancake. And we have a lot of those who dug the seas and oceans 35 years ago, scientists and historians in the evenings and otherwise screw the nuts at the factory. No offense to the factory workers said ...
        And in general, Samsonov is a world phenomenon ... they have ruined education all over the world.
      2. 0
        25 January 2020 00: 01
        Quote: OldMichael
        Therefore, the concentration of judgments based on emotions and not supported by specific knowledge is higher here than in society as a whole (where, at times, they may be required to "answer for the bazaar").

        previously it was the other way around. Judgments were more capacious than articles and comments were all gold on interesting discussions.
        Mass kills specialization.
      3. 0
        25 January 2020 11: 18
        Therefore, the concentration of judgments based on emotions and not supported ... ... everyone has associations with the word CONFESSION, because almost everyone on this resource is familiar with the famous masterpieces of Ilf and Petrov, if not literary then filmed, unambiguously, so this The confession is like a blueprint for "The Sword and the Plow" with the catch phrases "the west will help us" and "we have long arms" and not any "for the bazaar"
    2. 0
      24 January 2020 23: 38
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      We

      Why do you think that you have gone far from Ukraine in terms of sovereignty? As an example, they usually cite someone who should be leveled up.
    3. +1
      25 January 2020 00: 47
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      What, from Israel or Greece will the zemlyashka in bulk carriers be exported?

      Nobody is going to carry the dung, only if you look at the structure - last year the leaders - grain cargo and oil amounted to 37,7%, then iron ore and a container. there is a risk in bad weather and crop failure ...
  12. +2
    24 January 2020 18: 13
    As if from Syria / Libya "laborers" were not brought.
    And it will end all-squeeze to the fullest (not your own) and still with astronomical debts left.
  13. +3
    24 January 2020 18: 14
    And what will say tovarisch kaloma? I guess I missed something, and now who owns the port of Odessa? Was the richest of the republics of the USSR, and who became?
    1. -3
      25 January 2020 00: 03
      Quote: Balu
      I guess I missed something, and now who owns the port of Odessa?

      A port is a huge living organism. Terminals, customs, warehouses, and officially all property on its territory belong to the state.
      Officials are the most inefficient managers.
  14. +4
    24 January 2020 18: 15
    The annual amount of concession payments will amount to 82 million UAH, which is 16 times higher than the profit of the port.

    Naive "Bandera boys", now the robbery of "Nezalezhnaya" will increase 32 times ..
    The Russians will come. And there is a desert and howl save "brothers", innocent me ...
  15. +1
    24 January 2020 18: 28
    The patient is more likely dead than alive, because trade in the body smoothly turns into trade in parts of the body.
    belay
  16. 0
    24 January 2020 18: 30
    What remains to transmit? Or haven’t it all been taken away yet?
  17. 0
    24 January 2020 18: 38
    I won’t be surprised if it turns out to be another memorandum of intent :)
  18. +1
    24 January 2020 18: 42
    Take in the concession border crossing state. the borders of Ukraine (Rava-Russian, Yagodin, Ustilug, Krakovets, Shegini ...) wait ... and the customs of Ukraine will be given for concession ...
  19. 0
    24 January 2020 18: 43
    They cannot declare default or how I owe everything to us, to whom, by such actions are they calculated for the terribly gratuitous help of the West. Visits to the pope are not made for nothing, and media support, too.
  20. -4
    24 January 2020 18: 44
    Well komenty with smirks and grimaces revered smiled authors and all right. Of course, they couldn’t go to analytics! We read the link (https://neftegaz.ru/news/Suda-i-sudostroenie/444263-katar-postroit-eshche-100-spg-tankerov/). And calmly see! Well, Gazprom needs to start knocking her legs off!
    For those who do not understand! Qatar will bring a high-volume plant to dilute its LNG and enter the European market, dumping and taking volumes from the same Gazprom.
    The funniest thing is that the gas transmission system of Ukraine allows you to send gas as many as you like to any side of Europe! Though south. (we laughed that we will now supply the Romanians and Bulgarians along the Turkish branch?)
    We are simply silent for central Europe. Miller persisted so that no more than 40 lard per year since 2021. Well, voila will drive Qatar. So the chuckles from the misunderstanding of armagedonia that is coming from 22 years
    1. +4
      24 January 2020 19: 43
      For those who do not understand! Qatar will bring a high-volume plant to dilute its LNG and enter the European market, dumping and taking volumes from the same Gazprom.

      To Nikolaev? And the Turks are already passing gas carriers through the Straits?
      1. -4
        24 January 2020 19: 58
        Turks with Qatar in modern reality brothers forever! So they will miss. They have common interests. Miller recently spoke of a shale bubble and no one thought it was somehow wrong.
        1. +1
          24 January 2020 20: 13
          Turks with Qatar in modern reality brothers forever! So they will miss. They have common interests.

          Hm! Explain, do not consider it work. Turks cannot eat, seeing how Qatar is tormented with the LNG terminal in Nikolaev? Or just about to get into this harlot. As friends, they must warn Qatar of whom they have to deal with.
          1. -3
            24 January 2020 21: 06
            They are allies in Libya. And what about the passage of gas carriers? So right now there are only a couple of restrictions. In the daytime and accompanied by tugboats for ships longer than 150 meters
            1. +2
              24 January 2020 21: 34
              They are allies in Libya.

              So then in Libya, interests may coincide there.
              "And what is the fat for us from this tramp?" (FROM)
              And what about the passage of gas carriers? So there right now only a couple of restrictions

              Yeah! Turks do not let gas carriers and aircraft carriers through the Straits. Just a couple ...
              Qatar Bring a new plant for grovefluid (mistake?) of its LNG and enter the European market,

              Do they have free? What is the name, in which estuary is leveled?
              1. -1
                24 January 2020 23: 02
                According to the convention, Montreux aircraft are not allowed. Large vessels, as well as transports and gas carriers, have entered conditions. Only during the day and with pilot escort to vessels up to 150 meters and with a pilot and escort by tugs during the day for exceeding this limit. Although the Montreux Convention does not provide for such restrictions
                What about a floating liquefaction factory? Duc in Europe next year will be released in connection with the completion of construction of stationary terminals.
                You can exaggerate and laugh on. Miller was broadcasting over an inflated shale bubble and everyone was laughing. As it turned out not to laugh.
                P.S. The link that I quoted did not probably read.
    2. +1
      24 January 2020 23: 36
      Quote: dgonni
      The funniest thing is that the gas transmission system of Ukraine allows you to send gas as many as you like to any side of Europe! Though south. (we laughed that we will now supply the Romanians and Bulgarians along the Turkish branch?)

      And for what? In order to provide for Rymyn and Bulgarians, there is a terminal in Greece + a gas pipeline-interconnector Greece - Bulgaria (IGB), their LNG terminal is cropped, but balkans consume small volumes and the main gas consumer of Gazprom in the south is Italy, and it has its own LNG terminals. Substitute the Poles there through Ukraine. The Germans have flows ... And to whom ????
      1. -1
        25 January 2020 00: 10
        All at a low dumping price to capture the market. Or do you think that they are building a hundred gas carriers for the collection?
        1. +1
          25 January 2020 00: 32
          Now there are ready-made terminals with ready-made infrastructure - Turkey, Greece, Croatia, Italy .... Lithuania, Poland .... following your logic, go to these terminals and dumping. and the terminal in Nikolaev still needs to be connected to export gas pipelines and at whose expense this banquet will be - recently Ukraine refused to build a new gas pipeline with Poland, and here ...
          and about dumping, what the same states will say to Qatar
          if the number of operating drilling rigs "for oil" in the United States for the year decreased by 20 percent, then working "for gas" - as much as 40 percent (!), from 198 to 120 pieces .... in December Chevron, a super-major company, said of write-offs of $ 11 billion, about half of which fell on the production of shale gas ... a large amount - up to $ 1,8 billion - is also planned to be written off by EQT, the country's largest gas producer. The shares of this company are feeling a new bottom, and the bonds have been relegated to the "junk" category. It is important that both companies (both Chevron and EQT) operate at the best in terms of shale quality, the Marcellus field: there is both good productivity and "rich" gas https://ria.ru/20200123/1563740979.html.
    3. +1
      25 January 2020 12: 02
      Qatar bring a coveted plant to dispose of its LNG ...... LNG is already twice as expensive as pipe, and even if through U. then the price for Euro singers will be three or four times higher than pipe, I wonder who will covet such "dumping "??? would like to know such a European singer
      1. -1
        25 January 2020 13: 22
        At the Dutch spot exchange, gas is quoted at 130 killed raccoons. In Austria, 140. The level of profitability of shale gas and mattresses dropped to 160-45 Baku. At some deposits up to 50-30. Qatar thawed the northern field. So prices will continue to go down and sellers will continue to seek to sell faster at existing prices.
        With regard to the presence of Croats Italians and Bulgarians in the terminals of the south. Then there is the question of transporting gas to the industrial northern regions of Italy and Europe. For there are gas pipelines for transit from north to south and in small volumes. And with Ukraine, Qatar receives a powerful gas transportation network capable of supplying gas in any direction of Europe, plus access to gas storages.
        P.S. through Italy it might be cheaper, but with Egypt and Italians they are in contra
        1. 0
          25 January 2020 17: 26
          Qatar thawed the northern field ..... let it be at least boil it, LNG is always more expensive than the pipe, clean it, freeze it, transport it again, and then drive it through the pipes where brazen selection along the way is normal, do not hang noodles on your ears about an almost free LNG .... and so a personal matter. Do you still carry water in your house in buckets or do you still use water supply?
          1. -3
            25 January 2020 18: 51
            The cost of transporting gas by tankers decreases with distance. At distances of 5000 km, the cost is compared with a pipe at large distances, CNG becomes cheaper than a pipe. The cost of mining also plays a role.
            Did Kiselev tell you about impudent selection? Toto in the Arbitration Gazprom did not even stutter about it. And this would be a decisive argument in terms of what Ukraine would pay and not Gazprom.
            Miller also rested and hid his head in the sand with shale. But the ostrich position did not help.
            1. 0
              25 January 2020 21: 35
              Did Kiselev tell you about impudent selection? .... no, the former prezik of U Kuchma’s territory himself, and the rest of the followers didn’t even steam, insolent selection and truncation, the counter for European singers is turned on at the border of U with EU, at the moment the nuts are tightened due to the reverse. there are almost no leaks, so what does the Miller have to do with it
              The cost of transporting gas by tankers decreases with distance. At distances of 5000 km ........ once again. Do not hang noodles on the ears of others, and buy a fork for yourself
  21. +2
    24 January 2020 18: 48
    With all the desire to mock the skakuas, I can’t help but ask: And what about the next planned negotiations with the Saudi company to sell them a 49% stake in some of our company (which also owns the port of Vladivostok)?
    1. -2
      24 January 2020 19: 22
      Can only be called another disgrace in an endless string of shame bourgeois Russia
    2. +1
      24 January 2020 19: 55
      This is called an investment.) If you buy a certain number of shares without the ability to influence the management of the company (not a controlling stake), then you are an ordinary investor.)
      1. +1
        24 January 2020 19: 57
        Judging by the distribution of shares now, the Saud will become the owners of a controlling stake. If this time the story of 2017 is not repeated when they were sent. Vladivostok, whatever one may say, the port is strategic.
        1. +1
          24 January 2020 20: 25
          With 49%, you can’t become the owner of a controlling stake, this is the point of sales of less than half of the shares. It’s just that I don’t know what it’s specifically talking about, but apparently there’s no question of selling the company and changing management.
          1. 0
            25 January 2020 14: 37
            Now the co-owners do not have more than 23% for each. No one. Now imagine: 4-5 co-owners with shares from 23% to 0,00x49% and one more with their XNUMX%. And who will steer? Lenya Golubkov? laughing
            1. +1
              25 January 2020 17: 55
              with their 49%. And who will steer? ..... the company will steer, and the shares are invented so that if the loot was put in, the voiced coin would pour 49 percent of the profit into the pocket, it would be unprofitable for the owner of the shares that the company would be bent, because the invested funds down the drain along with zero shares, do not confuse what the article is about, and the concession is about transferring a foreigner to the full use of resources and etc. for a fee, that is, the state, having donated its resources to foreigners, is not at work, you feel the difference, the concession is not a rental or a stock toy, it’s legal robbery
  22. +2
    24 January 2020 18: 51
    And how often had to be in Nikolaev. A shipbuilding plant was created by our aircraft carriers. I had to accept them with the Commission. The first flights were allowed in the Crimea in the Golden Coast bay.
  23. +3
    24 January 2020 18: 55
    Well, in principle, former relatives do everything right, if their prime minister admits that there is no boom in the economy, and there is nothing to say about the clown president, then it’s better to give management to people who are knowledgeable in the economy ... Well, the population will be fed as Someone herself, who is earning money in Europe, who is in Russia, why do they need their own railways, ports, factories, zemstvos just for housing and a grave and that's all ...
  24. +3
    24 January 2020 20: 08
    Finally it came to the UA government that they were not able to drive something a little more than a car on their own. Here I am rather happy for the employees of organizations. Railway and port. They had (possibly) a light at the end of the tunnel. And this is their only salvation.
    Well, not counting the voluntary accession to the Russian Federation as a federal district. What to count on is not particularly necessary. Since freedom-loving brothers prefer to work in Russia, but spend their grandmothers in UA. Using the difference in exchange rates, and other "margin". Or whatever it’s called (I’ve forgotten it already).
    For on their own, everything will fall to dust! I personally became convinced of this, using the example of my peninsula. And his once archi successful and respected enterprise.
  25. +3
    24 January 2020 20: 18
    They do not rule, but confidently crush the country. This is probably what the final result of debt restructuring looks like. In short, hello from Jaresky! It's only the beginning)))
  26. 0
    24 January 2020 20: 39
    Answer, only honestly, and who in our country owns the subsoil, factories and plants, ports and airlines, shipping companies, arable land and forests?
    1. +4
      24 January 2020 21: 21
      Duc, that's just sadness. In the wake of the call of universal joy and democracy / freedom (I perfectly managed to catch this moment),
      Many profound mistakes have been made by our leadership. Present to the leadership - I was a kid, I didn't understand anything about it (I was only interested in girls then, but literate rock'n'roll). But THERE were not boys, but HUSBANDS! By the way, they were paid money to think what they were doing.
      And the musicians have done .... And taperech to me to rake after them. In old age.
      All these privatizations, thoughts, Gaidars and Chubais forgive God.
  27. 0
    24 January 2020 20: 48
    The most perspicacious minor in Ukraine, this Internet user. Captain obvious.
  28. -1
    24 January 2020 21: 41
    the current low profit of the port and the willingness to work in it companies from Qatar suggests that the potential of the port is huge

    The difference, in part, flows directly into the pockets of the port authorities.
  29. +2
    24 January 2020 22: 40
    Back in 2014, he said that there was a state-wide raider seizure. For the money invested from abroad, there was a change in the “participants” and the “general” in LLC-Ukraine. And then everything is according to the standard scheme. Huge loans are taken, grandmothers and assets are withdrawn, bankruptcy is declared, and "creditors" take the latter. After which the LLC ceases to exist and is liquidated .. like this
  30. +1
    24 January 2020 23: 16
    The fate of the Sumerians was hard, only after twenty-eight years of nezalezhnost and six after the revolutions and hydrology, they finally realized that they were "fucked", judging by their comments.
  31. +1
    24 January 2020 23: 47
    In Israel, the new (second) port in Haifa is being built by the Chinese. And they will get it
    in concession for 20 years.
    And the second (private) port in Ashdod, too.
    1. +2
      25 January 2020 07: 13
      Quote: voyaka uh
      In Israel, the new (second) port in Haifa is being built by the Chinese. And they will get it
      in concession for 20 years.
      And the second (private) port in Ashdod, too.

      Well, Israel is not Ukraine, you still probably the Chinese should remain wassat And these are sure to be fooled ..
    2. 0
      27 January 2020 22: 38
      Everything, you can write an article: "The Chinese are capturing Israel." I am sure there are those who wish)
  32. 0
    25 January 2020 16: 12
    And then, according to the already established tradition, Russia will be blamed for squandering its own territory and other things.
    1. 0
      27 January 2020 22: 39
      No specifics, cliches and chauvinism.
  33. +1
    25 January 2020 23: 18
    I will repeat as before on the railway, there will be a new staff.
  34. 0
    26 January 2020 06: 51
    Duchey garno!
  35. +1
    26 January 2020 10: 27
    Tomorrow they will transfer to concession all of us - citizens of Ukraine. They say: it is economically more profitable.

    Maybe then there will be at least some benefit from you ?!
  36. 0
    26 January 2020 12: 26
    Instead of the "shy" (according to Ilf and Petrov) sale of Ukraine, an open and impudent one began. However, it is clear that the "servants of the people" had nothing left, everything was stolen before them
  37. 0
    26 January 2020 14: 17
    "The second largest seaport of Ukraine" The headline is surprising. What is the first then? And nothing that "Oktyabrsk" is a former military port, and that there is only one pier (pier)?

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