Russophobia. Soviet click on the American nose

In the 50s of the last century, the Soviet Union continued to be a closed country. This allowed the countries of the capitalist camp to consider themselves to be ahead of world progress in literally everything, including science and technology.

Based on this, one can imagine what a blow to the capitalist world led by the United States was the news of October 4, 1957. It was on that day that the USSR opened the space age, having launched the world's first artificial satellite into low Earth orbit.

The next issue of Tired Optimist, titled Russophobia 8.0, tells us that a Soviet satellite launched into orbit turned strategic American weapons into a pile of metal. No, the weapons, of course, didn’t disappear anywhere, but sobering came in Washington with the understanding that the USSR had surpassed them, and therefore received a military advantage.

Further, the author talks about the Caribbean crisis and how the two superpowers of that time stood on the brink of a nuclear war. The situation between the USSR and the USA was tense to the limit. Soviet missiles literally under the nose of the Americans were in Cuba, which was a click on that same American nose. Clicked painfully, as in the case of the 1st satellite.

About these and other events of the Soviet period - in the video:

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[Svarog]

one can imagine what a blow to the capitalist world led by the United States was the news of October 4, 1957. It was on that day that the USSR opened the space age, having launched the world's first artificial satellite into low Earth orbit.

Well, in the USSR they did at first, and then they talked, but now they talk a lot, but they do nothing .. or almost nothing.

[Alexga]

in the USSR they did at first, and then they talked, but now they talk a lot

That says almost everything! There is no product yet, but it is already being discussed by everyone. How is that possible?

[rocket757]

Quote: AlexGa

There is no product yet, but it is already being discussed by everyone. How is that possible?

Renovation, innovation, projects / projects and other chatter ... t-fu, disgusting.

[Alexga]

Another thing annoying is that even defense enterprises create their products on the principle that the more expensive the better, the army will still buy for budget money. Disgrace!

[rocket757]

Their message is different. Not to do, but to earn. Nothing new.

[Alexga]

Not to do, but to earn. Nothing new

I still can’t get used to this, most of the service was in the Soviet army.

[rocket757]

The country was different. Other aspirations, the principles of creation ... the fundamental has changed, now they are screwed up on what happened.
And how many you don’t know for sure, anyway .... something turns out, we better not see this at all.

[Alexga]

Whatever country is, but it is ours and it will have to be protected. This is where the question becomes, how many means are there to protect it. Although, for whom the war, and for whom the mother is dear.

[Lexus]

I completely agree. And Victor is also right. And Vladimir. It comes to war, the main guarantee of victory will be resources and capacities, not money. There are other values ​​in the war.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rocket757

Their message is different. Not to do, but to earn. Nothing new.

The ideology of capitalism. And you won’t do anything about it. Even if they do something, but still try to earn as much as possible.

[rocket757]

About that and speech. The article on the Urals clearly states that developers from different enterprises shared their best developments with their "competitors". Because for YOUR COUNTRY!

[Paul Siebert]

I absolutely agree with you!
Up to 70 percent of the cost of German tanks during WWII accounted for the "finishing" of vehicles, supplying them with comfort elements for crews, interior decoration ...
How it all ended - the whole world remembers.
The socialist "filed only" tanks rolled through the Reich with a steel roller, crushing the capitalist "masterpieces" of Aders and Porsches.
Do not forget about it.

[Alexga]

And now it is surprising that the main trends in creation are associated with very complex design features, albeit very scientific. At the same time, they forget that any type of weapon must also have the highest degree of foolishness. This is what must be taken into account. High-tech weapons "for the fool" are always the path to Victory. An example of a T-34 in WWII.

[martin-159]

One painting with zimmerite was worth it.

[don-1500]

And everywhere they have Clusters.

[rocket757]

Quote: Paul Siebert

I absolutely agree with you

Try to justify what you wrote ....

Quote: AlexGa

High-tech weapons "for the fool" are always the path to Victory. Example T-34 in WWII

High tech right.
What did you want to express, is it not clear?

[District Committee Bureau]

Quote: Svarog

Well, in the USSR they did at first, and then they talked, but now they talk a lot, but they do nothing .. or almost nothing.

How are you right Vladimir .. Straight from the tongue removed.!
As the USSR neoliber was accused of chatter and slogans, but the work went on and the achievements are still using and using the "fraternal republics" and it looks good ..
Now, first of all, to feed the oligarchy. and what remains for the people .. Now this is exactly what is happening .. The type of payment of benefits, etc. suppress the discontent of the province, supposedly give birth and you will be paid .. And from whom to give birth, men all on watch rotate their health for a penny .. (no one comes to rest for a month and again ..)
And the billionaires in our country during the crisis became even greater, but they became so quiet .. They understood that big money loves silence ....

[GKS 2111]

Yes, the USSR could click on anyone’s nose both literally and figuratively. Everyone in the world knew this and respected our country. Even outright enemies hated, but were afraid. A great country. It was ...

[Svarog]

Quote: GKS 2111

but were afraid. A great country. Was ..

They are afraid of North Korea now .. and the USSR was not just afraid, but was even afraid of ideological potential, not of military potential .. Scandinavian socialism appeared from there .. only thanks to the USSR .. and not only Scandinavian .. also France, Germany .. were forced to pay more attention to the social component ..

[solzh]

Quote: Svarog

and the USSR was not just afraid, but even not of military potential, but of ideology

Still not afraid! After World War II, the positions of the communist parties were strong throughout the world! They, the Western capitalists, began the Cold War because of fear of the Soviet ideology! At first, the communist movement of Greece was crushed by force, through a secret operation they destroyed the communists of Italy, France and continued the struggle with the national liberation movement in Latin America and around the world. They are still afraid of the USSR!

[Kuroneko]

Quote: solzh

Still not afraid! After World War II, the positions of the communist parties were strong throughout the world!

I once read a biography of Eisenhower.
So, only thanks to the fact that he once was in fact the commander of all Allied forces in Europe (during the Second World War), and personally had contacts with both Zhukov and our other generals and marshals - only this experience gave him understanding of what the USSR and its people are. And only because of this he vetoed the numerous and passionate attempts of the Pentagon to use nuclear bombs against the North Koreans in the Korean War (the Pentagon was then really just obsessed with the idea of ​​once again using this super-weapon as soon as possible in order to stop the spread of the "communist infection" in the South Asian region - that's how they looked at the Korean conflict then).

[solzh]

Quote: GKS 2111

Great country. Was

Or maybe there will be? Maybe in the future we’ll wipe our nose to the west? Hope she did die last ... Although ... if it continues to continue like this ... It all reminds me of the sunset of Ancient Rome ...

[Svarog]

Quote: solzh

Or maybe there will be? Maybe in the future we’ll wipe our nose to the west?

I would like to believe, but objectively, at the moment there are no prerequisites .. There are prerequisites that we will have our own Elbasy type of Kazakhstan .. and this means that the elite is the same .. and as long as it controls everything, there is no need to wait for changes. for the better .. Now they want to tax pensions .. https://news.mail.ru/economics/40318175/?frommail=1 .. There will be many such events in their program.

[solzh]

Quote: Svarog

Now they want to tax pensions .. https://news.mail.ru/economics/40318175/?frommail=1

I read the news and ... How much can you mock retirees? ...

[Svarog]

Quote: solzh

Quote: Svarog

Now they want to tax pensions .. https://news.mail.ru/economics/40318175/?frommail=1

I read the news and ... How much can you mock retirees? ...

About that and speech .. Impunity .. about conscience I wanted to write .. yes where really there ..

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: solzh

I read the news and ...

Elderly Russians going on well-deserved rest may receive payments in equal shares for several years in a row or withdraw accumulations at a time. However, they will have to pay personal income tax

What is the mockery? I remind you that now, without paying personal income tax, you will receive exactly as much as you live.

Quote: Svarog

about conscience I wanted to write .. yes where already there ..

"Svarog", and you, I look - just to groan ...

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Svarog

I would like to believe, but objectively, at present there are no prerequisites .. There are prerequisites that we will have our own Elbasy type of Kazakhstan ..

It is better to be the Tsar of Putin "once and for all" than any Ksyushadi, as for me.
The best in Russia is the absence of the worst.

[Svarog]

Quote: Kuroneko

It is better to be the Tsar of Putin "once and for all" than any Ksyushadi, as for me.

An interesting comparison between Putin and Ksyusha ... you want to play in contrast ... why don't we give Buzov an example .. from the same series .. Do you seriously think that Putin is the best? and there are no worthy candidates in the country?

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Svarog

and there are no worthy candidates in the country?

Name, sister, name! (with)
By the way, I never voted for Putin once.

[Svarog]

Quote: Kuroneko

Name, sister, name! (with)

Not there, look for sisters ..

By the way, I never voted for Putin once.

But what about the other you call .. your hypocritical position, however ..

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Svarog

But what about the other you call .. your hypocritical position, however ..

Not at all. And the "call" is your own delusion. I just got used to be content with little, what is. And those who want to bite off a little more - those over there, galloped already to tse Europa. Dreams of a sweet life are expensive.

Quote: Svarog

Not there, look for sisters ..

I am ashamed not to know the domestic Three Musketeers.

[solzh]

Quote: Kuroneko

And who wants to bite off a little more - those right at their side, have already jumped up to Tse Europa

Sorry, but your comparison is not correct in this case. For example, the communist movement is not going to ride at all. The bulk wants to jump with their false liberals.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: solzh

For example, the communist movement is not going to ride at all.

You will excuse me, but the Communist Party of the Russian Federation too has long only parasitized the memory of people who lived in the Soviet Union (and Zyuganov’s norms). But in fact - it has long been another EdRom, just not at the trough, because at least somehow at a minimum, but it depicts concern for the people.

[solzh]

Quote: Kuroneko

but the Communist Party, too, has long only parasitized the memory of people living in the Soviet Union (and Zyuganov’s norms). But in fact - it has long been another EdRom, just not at the trough

And I agree and disagree. I recently often criticized the Communist Party. Such a feeling that they are happy with what is happening and they are happy with everything.
In general, the whole situation in the State Duma reminds me of the People’s Chamber of the GDR. There, it seemed the same was a multi-party system, but at the same time there was the supremacy of the SED.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: solzh

Such a feeling that they are happy with what is happening and they are happy with everything.

And there is.
Would it be some kind of LDPR - I wouldn’t have any questions (the LDPR with Zhirik generally crept into high spheres only thanks to the charisma and genius of Zhirik), but the Communist Party? More was expected of them. MUCH more. But they, too, simply integrated into the system, and became another LDPR. To # the party elite on the common people, to be honest. They already live approximately like functionaries of the times of the USSR. All they need is more from life. The dream came true (and even under capitalism).
Sad yes.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Kuroneko

Name, sister, name! (with)

Not there sisters look for..

Your lack of education is comparable only with your bad manners

* don't "search", but "search", by the way ...

[solzh]

Although I’ve been criticizing the Communist Party of the Russian Federation lately, for example, Valery Fedorovich Rashkin and here is the https://kprf.ru/party/structure/tsk list of members of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, there are enough worthy people there.
There are leaders in the Russian Communist Workers Party (RKRP-CPSU), the same Tyulkin Viktor Arkadievich. website: https://rkrp-rpk.ru

Quote: Kuroneko

By the way, I never voted for Putin once.

I never voted the same.

[Grandfather Crimea]

Probably yes, everything is known in comparison. And what is better Old Man or Jewish fascism in Ukraine?

[Van 16]

The Soviet Union is the first in space. The first is in space. It's forever. And no shortage of toilet paper will reduce the significance of this event.

[Svarog]

Quote: Van 16

The Soviet Union is the first in space. The first is in space. It's forever

This is just a memory .. the memory of great people, of a great state .. There were once great civilizations .. where are they now, like this here .. the wind of history will blow and scatter the ashes ..
And the reality now is https://news.mail.ru/society/40319044/
The second year in a row we are dying ..

[Van 16]

Maybe you're right. But I don’t feel like it.
As a child, he was collecting space brands. For each flight, however, they were issued, many were printed with paintings by Leonov and Sokolov, a whole large album was ..
And what did they come to ..

[Grandfather Crimea]

We come to how to combine incompatible. Hence such a devastation.

[Old Michael]

This is just a memory.

No. This is a MEMORY that must be preserved and passed on to children and grandchildren. And this is a moral, ethical guideline, even if the heating of ambition like "The grandfathers gave the heat! And we are worse!" And not at all an extra penny in the treasury of patriotic education.
And the bitterness of loss is also an incentive to invest in the upbringing of future generations. And an example for them (positive or negative - also depends on us today).

[Svarog]

Quote: OldMichael

No. This is a MEMORY that must be preserved and passed on to children and grandchildren. And this is a moral, ethical guideline, even if the heat of ambition is like "The grandfathers gave the heat! And we are worse!"

I agree! But we must strive to continue the glorious deeds of our ancestors .. I actually mean that ..

[Grandfather Crimea]

This is correct, but it is necessary to tell with the correction for the "wind" - what should be changed without destroying ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svarog

The second year in a row we are dying ..

Personally, you - so in my memory it’s already about the fourth or fifth, in a row ... and still not

[Gardamir]

We have replaced the worldview. It used to be pride, the first in space. And now, a gorgeous woman, smelling of expensive perfumes, in an expensive car,
So what, what a prostitute ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

chic woman, smelling of expensive perfumes, in an expensive car, So what, what a prostitute ...

However, buddy, you have a rich imagination

Quote: Gardamir

We changed the worldview

Not "us", but you. Speak for yourself, for me, by example, I did not authorize you to speak. And not only me, IMHO.

[Gardamir]

I'm not complaining about fantasy.
As for the worldview, do you think such an effective sale of the body is normal?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

do you find it normal to have such an effective sale of the body

I don’t have to speak Russian well ... inspired, sorry

Why should I even "count" something on the topic "effective sale of the body"?

Personally, I don't give a damn, I don't buy "sold bodies"

[Old Michael]

We changed the worldview

Not everyone. Even young people aged 25-35 are very different. There are eagles that will give us a head start, not only in love for the motherland, but also in devotion to their service profession.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

it’s funny to read this news after everything that happened afterwards, so you can click your nose as much as you like, but the real winners don’t give a damn about it, nothing stands still

[Old Michael]

this news is somehow funny to read

It’s strange. We just discussed (see the article on declassified American documents regarding Bandera) the need to preserve historical memory and patriotic education - and hello there!
Not a minus. Few people than such a mockery inspired.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

the real winners don't care about it, nothing stands still

But the real winner is precisely the USSR.
Or if you are about modern The United States - from that time on, an abscess of such epic proportions began to ripen, that it would soon finally burst (and burst already in the 98th and 08th, then with the strain of all forces, but somehow managed to patch it). However, soon it will burst completely. So this does not smell like victory.

[nm76]

Gentlemen, please tell me honestly, besides Victory and Cosmos there is something to be proud of?
This is akin to the fact that modern Egyptians would be proud of their pyramids.
Is it really not clear that all this is history, all this is in the past, but we live now, and there is tomorrow, in which we somehow do not really fit in.

[Svarog]

Quote: nm76

Is it really not clear that all this is history, all this is in the past, but we live now, and there is tomorrow, in which we somehow do not really fit in.

I agree with you .. what about your rating? Yesterday -400 was today - 2000 .. Write everything on the case, it is interesting to read you.

[nm76]

Good afternoon! Unfortunately, my rating depends on many people I don’t know. Not all of them like the truth, they have their own)))

[Kuroneko]

Quote: nm76

Gentlemen, please tell me honestly, besides Victory and Cosmos there is something to be proud of?

Yes dofiga reasons, but you obviously will cheat on everything.
However, if you please:
Russia - One of the very few European countries where traditional family values ​​are respected and honored to this day, and sodomy and political correctness do not flourish.
Russia - the world engine of science. Since the 19th century, the scientific languages ​​of the planet Earth have been and are Russian, English and German. Any serious scientist already then had to know the Russian language (by the way, the same tank in its modern sense was in fact invented in Russia - google Porokhovshchikov's "Vezdekhod").
Russia - A unique country with almost a hundred peoples (and even more nationalities), and all of them have coexisted quite well over the centuries and get along with each other like shoots of ivy on a core oak nation - Russian. No one else in the world has such an experience. Compare what problems today's Europe has, for example.

And finally, I'll throw, perhaps, the old, but still painfully relevant song Talkova. Listen to this. And the song itself is beautiful, and its message is eternal (Talkova is not for nothing that many call the prophet).

[nm76]

You shouldn’t, of course, do what I’m just doing, so I’m laying my tongue ... Of course, the points you listed are an undeniable plus, but family values ​​and rejection of homosexuality are not unique to us ...
However, like the multinationality of the people living in our country, this is again a worldwide phenomenon.
So this is certainly good, but not only our plus.

[Old Michael]

And the song itself is beautiful, and its promise is eternal

Yes, that is - that is.
But, IMHO, it would not be worthwhile to attract Talkov in the context of this topic. A prophet, not a prophet ...
And his songs are very different: as the soul tossed, so the string sounded. A poet and a musician who feels harmony and feels false - he is not a political scientist, sociologist, or else, God forgive me, any ... qi. I understood that things were going wrong, and why did this happen - how many understood then?
Rest in Peace, Poet!

[nikvic46]

I completely agree with your words about Russia. But I disagree on Talkov, who called "the country of fools." Not a single country, let alone Russia, deserves such a name. Ordinary people live in it with an ordinary life. And sometimes peasant truth is much more brilliant than boyar ...

[Kuroneko]

Quote: nikvic46

But I do not agree on Talkov, who called "the country of fools".

Talkov said otherwise, excuse me. The message was exactly the opposite (on the contrary, that Russia is NOT a country of fools).

I do not presume to prophesy
But I know for sure that I'll be back
Even after a hundred centuries
The country is not fools, but geniuses.
And, defeated in battle,
I will rise and sing
On the country's first birthday,
Returning from the war.

[nikvic46]

So he considered only in the future Russia, as a country of geniuses. God was his judge.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: nikvic46

So he considered only in the future Russia, as a country of geniuses.

No, he just sang about the time when and all people will finally fall in love with their own country, and will speak of it not semi-contemptuously as a country of fools (and in the late 80s and early 90s it was fashionable - well, really, if the people loved their country deeply, the collapse of the USSR would not have happened despite everything) but just like about the country of geniuses. And they will also treat her "partners" other countries. Like the hope of the whole world on a ball called Dirt.

[nikvic46]

It’s not up to us to judge the Caribbean crisis. We are living in a time when any event can turn this way and that. Similar incidents have been worked out by many experts. And we want to consider this crisis in half an hour.

[aleksandroff]

Quote: AlexGa

in the USSR they did at first, and then they talked, but now they talk a lot

That says almost everything! There is no product yet, but it is already being discussed by everyone. How is that possible?

Are you talking about Ilona mask?

[aleksandroff]

Quote: nikvic46

So he considered only in the future Russia, as a country of geniuses. God was his judge.

you somehow turn on the brain. They explain to you, but you won’t understand. it says that Russia is not a country of fools but geniuses always! and whenever and how the situation develops, this country is always great by its people. And whatever they say, our country is one of the most technologically advanced countries. They got it all with their iPhones. And if they wanted, they would have done, but why, if it is easier to buy? But in the nuclear, and other energy world without us in any way. And the collider was built only with the help of our scientists. Our garbage (phones) are not involved, ours are doing large-scale projects, space, the Arctic, energy, the best weapons and much more. Just as Talkov said, you don’t need to cherish your country and watch what genius we have. And no one has yet bypassed our country. We are not stomachs.