Five years since the shelling of Mariupol: investigations and their assessment


In January 2015, hostilities in the Donbass resumed. The resumption was preceded by a short truce, which in fact was not full-fledged. One of the significant events of the resumption of the war in southeastern Ukraine was the events associated with the shelling of a Donetsk-Volnovakha bus, a bus station in Donetsk, as well as quarters in the eastern part of Mariupol. Then the parties to the conflict accused each other of what happened. Petro Poroshenko drove around with fragments of the same bus, stitched on January 13, 2015 with fragments. I traveled with stories that Ukraine "is opposed to the Russian army."


The shelling of the East Mariupol microdistrict took place on January 24, 2015. As a result of the shelling, 31 people died then, 117 were injured of varying severity. The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine immediately accused the DPR forces of shelling, and in Donetsk they called the shelling a provocation of the Ukrainian security forces, whose task was to transfer the blame for the renewal of the armed conflict to the Donetsk militia.

In January 2015, several structures undertook to investigate the shelling of the eastern quarters of Mariupol, including HRW - Human Right Watch. The well-known Bellingcat organization, known for its fakes about the so-called “Internet investigation” of the July 2014 strike on the Malaysian Boeing over Donbass, decided to conduct an investigation.

In May 2018, Bellingcat published material in which it affirmatively stated the alleged perpetrators of the shelling of the east of Mariupol. “Bellingcat” then blamed the fighters of the DPR People’s Police. Further, the same structure announced that it "identified nine Russian officers" in the network, who were allegedly involved in the transfer of two MLRS batteries across the border.


As "evidence", Bellingcat traditionally presented itself to itself as a few jagged images from the Internet and satellite images. It is noteworthy that 3,5 years after the events in Mariupol, certain telephone conversations were also presented, which were allegedly intercepted by the Ukrainian side.

If there was wiretapping of mobile phones, the question arises: from whom did the “independent investigators” from Bellingcat get this kind of information? This is the first. Secondly, which mobile service provider can transmit data about the conversations of its users, if such a transfer took place? Thirdly, why was wiretapping conducted at a particular site and was presented only after 3,5 years? Even more strange: if we are talking about “Russian officers”, then why did they suddenly decide to use ordinary “mobile phones” for communication, and why they deliberately spoke about their actions through such channels.

All these issues raise the topic of planned provocation, in which such a structure as Bellingcat was once again chosen as the main disinformation mouthpiece. It is noteworthy that Bellingcat actually reveals the cards of Ukrainian special services, publishing information about allegedly wiretapping.

Moreover, in its investigation in 2018, Bellingcat names the Russian units, which, as it turned out, simply do not exist in the structures of the Russian Armed Forces.

Есть в этом «расследовании» и самом обстреле и другие странности. Например, Bellingcat утверждает, что «изучение спутниковых снимков» воронок даёт основание говорить о том, что «стреляли с востока с расстояния примерно в 6-8 км». На самом деле, для войск ДНР не имело никакого смысла подводить РСЗО на столь близкое расстояние хотя бы по той простой причине, что установки сами становились бы целями для украинской артиллерии и были бы уничтожены до подведения на такое расстояние. А если бы и не были уничтожены, то украинская сторона сразу же бы доложила СММ ОБСЕ о переброске войсками ДНР тяжёлой техники к линии соприкосновения.

And the analysis of the funnels left from the ruptures of the MLRS ammunition allows us to understand that the attacks were not from the east and certainly not from a distance of 6 km. The nature of the shelling shows that the most likely point where the multiple launch rocket systems were located was Pavlopol of the Volnovakha region. De jure (under the first Minsk agreements) Pavlopol entered the neutral zone, but was actually controlled by the security forces of Ukraine. Their positions were located in the immediate vicinity of the specified settlement.

It is worth recalling how Bellingcat described "the return of MLRS batteries to Russia." The material stated that they were "hidden in the woods." What kind of “forests” under Mariupol can be discussed are separate issues. The thickest, if the word "thick" is generally appropriate here, the vegetation in these places is small plantings from acacia trees. Trying to hide in them two batteries of heavy equipment along with the contingent is a daunting task. And why, if we continue to consider the statements of the Ukrainian side, did the DNR militias need to “withdraw” the MLRS to Russia? ..

It is important that on January 24 the residents of Mariupol themselves became witnesses of the fact that the ammunition flew from the northern side. And these territories were controlled by the troops of Ukraine.

It is noteworthy that since then Bellingcat has not commented on this situation, apparently because in this case it would have to answer uncomfortable questions: from where the data from mobile operators came from, before it turned out that the analysis of satellite images led to a frank fraud data.
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  1. Vladimir_2U 24 January 2020 10: 17 New
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    Bellingcat and Bandera creatures are creatures too.
    1. Thrifty 24 January 2020 11: 50 New
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      Besides us, nobody in the world really needs the truth, for such a thing can emerge about the war in Ukraine - forever all those who are to blame will not wash off! This is not only a sales clique of a steamy, but also the United States, NATO, the European Union! But actually, it was necessary for the militia to take Mariupol, despite the shouts from the Kremlin. ..
      1. Mountain shooter 24 January 2020 12: 31 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        But actually, it was necessary for the militia to take Mariupol, despite the shouts from the Kremlin. ..

        I carefully watched those fights. Could the militias take Mariupol - would take ... There were no forces. And so the front was stretched to indecent ...
      2. viking1703 24 January 2020 16: 30 New
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        What about Russia? Forgot about Russia. The same imaginary hope was given to people, and then merged.
    2. DRM
      DRM 24 January 2020 16: 24 New
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      No, just like the Iranians, to be honest: “there was a mistake”, you will always deny the evidence. Doublethink? triad? etc. This only works for people like Meehan. For the rest, it’s not enough. For information in the Internet is a mass.
  2. Olgovich 24 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    in Donetsk they called the shelling a provocation of the Ukrainian security forces, whose task was to try to shift the blame for the renewal of the armed conflict to the Donetsk militia.

    And there is.

    And stupid "Kets" do not interest anyone ...
    1. Olgovich 24 January 2020 10: 58 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      And stupid "Kets" do not interest anyone ...

      Let them investigate slaughterhouse в отношении участников Празднования Дня Победы в этом же Мариуполе 9 May 2014arranged uk.ronazistami.

      Or is there a Russian footprint you can already find and therefore is not interesting?
      Bastards!
      1. Alex Justice 25 January 2020 17: 01 New
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        Or millions of Iraqis killed because of the lies of America.
  3. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    In May 2018, Bellingcat published material

    Yeah, experts are still those ... How much they pay - so much they blather. negative
    1. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 10: 37 New
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      hi remember i recently referred to a book Selling journalists. Any lie for your money - Bellingcatовские эксперды/журналисты явно не страдают принципиальностью. Но они продолжают скармливать эту отраву и что грустно - ‘пипл хавает’.
      1. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 10: 39 New
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        Salute, friend! hi
        Of course I remember .
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        'people hawala

        That's it and that "hawala". Instead of thinking and analyzing, and only then draw conclusions ...
        1. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 10: 58 New
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          My friend, even for a simple analysis, you need at least two sources of information, and this is difficult. Moreover, the audience is impressionable and not used to going into details
          1. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 11: 13 New
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            The ability to analyze information is constantly and systematically destroyed by the media. And most of them take it for granted. sad
            1. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 11: 48 New
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              Quote: bouncyhunter
              The ability to analyze information is constantly and systematically destroyed by the media. And most of them take it for granted. sad

              Where does it come from if 4 inches of the screen to many, which is sad especially for young people, replace everything, just everything.
              I regularly come across the fact that they don’t even understand the questions of legality: well, it’s written here; but we cannot use what it’s written on the fence. Why??? Yes, because the prosecutor, God forbid, of course, will not care what’s on the fence, on the phone ...
              1. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 11: 50 New
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                I don’t even want to touch the topic with the fixation of young people on gadgets and the Internet. stop
                I will say briefly: depressing! crying
            2. venik 24 January 2020 16: 35 New
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              Quote: bouncyhunter
              The ability to analyze information is constantly and systematically destroyed by the media. And most of them take it for granted. sad

              ======
              In order to fight IT ..... Only WISDOM remains! .... The banal worldly Wisdom, multiplied by REASONABLE skepticism and (again, moderate cynicism (of course in relation to the media!)) ..... request
              1. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 16: 38 New
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                Vladimir hi
                "Wisdom comes over the years, but not to everyone. Marasmus comes to the majority." (with)
                1. venik 24 January 2020 16: 43 New
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                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Vladimir hi
                  "Wisdom comes over the years, but not to everyone. Marasmus comes to the majority." (with)

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                  good Well Paul! You me puzzled! Now I will be tormented by the question: WHAT has come to me over the years: Wisdom or banal Insanity ??? request
                  1. bouncyhunter 24 January 2020 16: 46 New
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                    It is high time already for "you" (if not against). drinks
                    Quote: venik
                    WHAT has come to me over the years: Wisdom or banal Insanity?

                    Judging by the issue - definitely not the last. yes
                    1. venik 24 January 2020 17: 09 New
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                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      It is high time already for "you" (if not against).

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                      Greetings, Pasha! Yes, we seem to have been chatting on the forum for a long time! And it seems that they have already switched to "you" long ago ..... It just "mechanically" popped up ....
                      By the way, I didn’t put that “emoticon” at the end: instead of ( request ) it was necessary to put ( laughing so or lol ) ...
                      Well, to be honest - the topic is SERIOUS !!! There is some infa, but in order not to "clutter up" the forum - I will drop it in a "personal"! This is about the minibus near Volnovakha!
                      Catch it!
        2. yustas 24 January 2020 20: 06 New
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          "why think" ?, "jumps necessary" (
      2. businessv 24 January 2020 11: 02 New
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        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        But they continue to feed this poison and what is sad - 'people hawala'

        Are they the only ones ?! And White Helmets, and Radio Liberty, CNN in the end! People are too lazy to think, and it’s hard to get acquainted with the actual material - you need to look for it, and then you chewed everything as they needed, but put it in your mouth (ears)!
        1. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 11: 44 New
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          hi пока мысль формулировал - вы ее озвучили yes These allegedly named media work as mentioned above: anything for your money.
          I read somewhere that psychologists distinguish a disease, something like fear not to be in time for incoming information: especially youth stupidly absorbs the data stream, but they are not able to work with this stream, they are not trained. Modern mainstream media is geared towards
          Quote: businessv
          then they chewed everything to you as they needed, but put it in your mouth (ears)!
    2. antivirus 24 January 2020 11: 22 New
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      if you sell someone a thread in the United States, Gazprom for $ 1, then all the satellite and electronic warfare data for the Donbass will be returned.
      the outskirts do not cost that much money and we do not buy our innocence
  4. Victor_B 24 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    several structures have taken, including HRW - Human Right Watch. The well-known Bellingcat organization decided to conduct its investigation.

    A collection of fake guns!
    Well, official Kiev can be understood, the war will write everything off.
    Well, this collection of plugs for any barrel of crap against Russia is simply beyond good and evil.
  5. knn54 24 January 2020 10: 41 New
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    У трагедий и в Одессе, и в Мариуполя ОДИН сценарист.
  6. nm76 24 January 2020 10: 47 New
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    About the abduction of the toilets of the Navy ...
    Materials about Bandera ...
    Conscription in Ukraine ...
    Problems with Ukrainian armored personnel carriers ...
    Shelling of Mariupol ...
    And this is only the latest news on VO, but do I live in Russia for sure?
    1. Volodin 24 January 2020 10: 53 New
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      Write out the Rossiyskaya Gazeta or the Duma Bulletin, focus solely on them. Or is someone forcing you to read materials on VO precisely on Ukrainian subjects?
      If the news is about the US Army or the nuclear program of Iran or the DPRK, you too immediately begin to wonder, "But am I not in Washington / Tehran / Pyongyang?" ...
      1. nm76 24 January 2020 10: 56 New
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        Probably you like to consider the next-door linen more than to darn your socks ...
        1. Volodin 24 January 2020 10: 59 New
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          Quote: nm76
          Probably you like to consider the next-door linen more than to darn your socks ...

          Thank goodness I'm able to make money on new socks. And what kind of lingerie with socks do you like, these are your personal experiences.
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        2. Thrall 24 January 2020 11: 04 New
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          Quote: nm76
          But do I really live in Russia?

          I mean, how does the Russian land carry you?
        3. businessv 24 January 2020 11: 48 New
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          Quote: nm76
          Probably you like to consider the next-door linen more than to darn your socks ...

          Do you think it is better on the contrary? laughing
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    3. aszzz888 24 January 2020 11: 04 New
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      nm76 (Michael) Today, ... 10:47 But do I really live in Russia?
      And what, take doubts?
      So in VO neither one nor anyone captives. As the saying goes - "Baba with a cart ....."
  7. rocket757 24 January 2020 10: 49 New
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    since then Bellingcat has not commented on this situation,

    Lie more, lie more often, lie ALWAYS! That’s the whole motto of this gang ... that's it!
    1. cniza 24 January 2020 12: 12 New
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      Or maybe it's time for them to nail? or file a lawsuit, otherwise they’ve already investigated so many things ...
      1. rocket757 24 January 2020 12: 19 New
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        It is difficult to say, it is difficult to hope for justice somewhere over the hill ... they swam, or rather drowned, more than once!
        And here they are invited, called, perhaps .. "very persistently" with local delivery wink
        1. cniza 24 January 2020 12: 23 New
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          When there is a trace of actions, then with the collapse of the fake, and sooner or later it will be a trump card and the courts understand this.
  8. Nikolaevich I 24 January 2020 10: 57 New
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    История очень "мутная" ! Укровласти тогда демонстрировали "останки " РС от РСЗО "Смерч"... Но у ополчения не было тогда ни одной установки РСЗО "Смерч" ! Но укровласти стали утверждать, что установки "Смерч" всё же были...это были российские "Смерчи" и палили они с территории ,подконтрольной ополченцам... Причём, эту версию подхватили и "российские либерасты" ! В интернете (в том числе и в российском "сегменте"...)появлялись "подробные" описания и схемы , "безусловно доказывающие" ,как "российские войска в купе с боевиками" обстреливали город...
    1. LiSiCyn 24 January 2020 11: 39 New
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      As far as I remember, it was initially said about the shelling of the "City". Yes, and in the video, the gaps in the city are similar. Later there was a version about the “mixed” ones - the Grad package and the Hurricane package.
      I remember, they were still investigating in hot pursuit ... There, it was clearly understood that the shells were not flying from the DPR.
      1. Igoresha 24 January 2020 11: 41 New
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        There was a version later
        hit from one side at one point, there is such an assumption
        1. LiSiCyn 24 January 2020 11: 56 New
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          They hit the market on the outskirts. Behind him, high-rise buildings began. There were practically no hits on the upper floors. Maybe on both sides. But not diametrically opposed.
  9. aszzz888 24 January 2020 10: 59 New
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    On January 24, the inhabitants of Mariupol themselves witnessed that ammunition flew from the north side.

    Living witnesses are very hinder ukrofashistskim fake. Because all the work)) bully Bellingcat screechy dog ​​under the tail, can be with them.
  10. Igoresha 24 January 2020 11: 39 New
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    And funnel analysis,
    видел видео - хвостовик ракеты торчит из асфальта, "азовец" прикладывает смартфон с выведеным на экран компасом, т.к. образом определяя направление.
    По всей видимости видео выпилили https://www.tanzpol.org/2015/01/t90862_8--analiz-rszo-obstrela-mariupolya-24-yanvarya-2015.html
  11. mikstepanenko 24 January 2020 11: 47 New
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    Про обстрел автобуса под Волновахой, кусок обшивки с которого демонстрировал Порошенко с трибуны ООН. Тогда были опубликованы фото этого автобуса, причем были фото борта крупным планом. Пробоины - ряд круглых (пулевые) и мелкие осколочные. Подчёркиваю - мелкая шрапнель и ни одной крупной пробоины. И кроме этого никаких повреждений. Вывод может быть только один - мина МОН на расстоянии метров десять и никаких ракет Града. Это осколочные пробоины, про пулевые вообще только местный блок-пост, никого другого со стрелковым оружием близко не было.
  12. cniza 24 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    It is important that on January 24 the residents of Mariupol themselves became witnesses of the fact that the ammunition flew from the northern side. And these territories were controlled by the troops of Ukraine.


    Five years, no words, maybe it's time? ... even the CIA is already telling.
  13. Snigir 24 January 2020 12: 20 New
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    Теперь Мариуполь загибается под бандеровским ярмом. Идёт истребление русскоязычного населения am
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      Quote: Snigir
      Now Mariupol is bent under the Bandera yoke. The extermination of the Russian-speaking population

      Is there any data on the "genocide"? Because the situation there is much better than the regional centers of the region (Donetsk, for example) in terms of remuneration. Yes, in fact, the entire region is the leader in the average salary in the country. (More precisely, 2/3 of the region except the ORDLO)
      И желания возвращаться из "бандеровского ярма" в "русский мир--замечено не было. Реклама серой зоны русского мира оказалась куда лучше, чем реклама бандеровского. Никто не хочет туда.
      In general, the article raises topics where there are several beneficiaries and, accordingly, there will be mutual accusations and allegations of fake statements by the enemy and truthfulness only.
      In such cases, it is useless to prove something to someone.
      The enemy is to blame.
      And Mariupol, like Kramatorsk, was used to accuse of "self-shelling" to confirm the lying of the enemy.
      But peace from shelling can not be returned.
      And after a while, both sides simply remind their own that it is necessary to hate “The one who did this” and indicate who it is.
      1. Snigir 17 March 2020 12: 08 New
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        That I was joking, of course things are better in Mariupol than in Donetsk
  14. prior 24 January 2020 12: 49 New
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    «Беллингкэт» мне не авторитэт.
  15. Amateur 24 January 2020 13: 27 New
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    Declassified archival data indicate that Bandera participated in punitive operations, burning villages, throwing people into mines. In addition, wards Bandera took part in the destruction of prisoners of the Nazi death camps.
    It is important to note that the documents were declassified by the CIA archival department with a noteworthy note: "In accordance with the Law on the Exposure of Nazi War Criminals."

    This is from a neighboring branch of VO. And the very fact of declassification suggests that “atat” will soon be made to fascist defiles in Ukraine.
  16. 23424636 24 January 2020 14: 33 New
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    там ситуация была очень запутанной. Известно что в этот период был утрачен контроль за стратегическим поселком Широкино .(20 км от Мариуполя) Дети пришли в школу на уроки а во двор школы закатился танк .. Просто все было брошено на освобождение Дебальцево и этот фланг проморгали ...а там линия моря на 10 км.
  17. 1001 24 January 2020 16: 15 New
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    Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten .. I don’t want to upload photos (and they won’t miss it), there’s a terrible thing going on .. Yes, and now almost every day they hammer in the Donbass ..
    US archives opened about Bandera recently ..
    Агент СД под кличкой Консул ....Что то около 10 тыс евреев уничтожили за одну операцию ,а уж про остальных вообще молчу..
  18. Mimoprohodil 24 January 2020 16: 35 New
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    Bellingcat claims that the “study of satellite imagery” of the funnels suggests that they “shot from the east from a distance of about 6-8 km”
    Does not approve Estimated artillery trajectories (red lines) and potential firing sites (red fire symbols). The average trajectory is marked by a thick yellow line, pointing to a location 7-10 km northwest of Bezimenne (white arrow).
  19. svoit 24 January 2020 18: 02 New
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    In January 2015, several structures undertook to investigate the shelling of the eastern quarters of Mariupol

    If I could read the investigation of our prosecutor's office, I would love to read about the crimes of the Kiev junta.
    Зачем "ВО" публикует разные фейкометы? А наше расследование замалчивается? бандеревцев - к ответу!
  20. lvov_aleksey 25 January 2020 22: 56 New
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    Eternal memory to the defenders !!!
  21. Dmitry Mariupolsky 26 January 2020 16: 02 New
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    I am a resident of Mariupol, Mr. East. The shelling was from two sides: from the north (Pavlopol) and the southeast (about Sopino). Both of these villages are located under the APU. In the city, especially Eastern, they are well aware of this. But no one to say ...