An intermediate link between the Mi-8 and the promising helicopter-BMD for the Airborne Forces has been developed

It became known about the new development of the Russian Helicopters holding. About it reports TASS news agency with reference to the head of the holding. Andrei Boginsky noted that we are talking about a new modification of the Mi-8 helicopter.

It is noted that this is a new helicopter for special forces - Mi-8AMTSH-VN2.

TASS gives the statement of the head of the holding:

We have a modernized look AMTSH-VN. Let's just say that with advanced options and capabilities - not even the machine itself, but additional equipment.

It is noted that the helicopter for special forces will receive a "higher level" system. We are talking about means of detecting and destroying targets, about recognition systems.

The material says that this helicopter is an intermediate link of rotorcraft from Mi-8 to a promising helicopter for the Airborne Forces. Today, a perspective helicopter for airborne units is understood, in essence, as a helicopter landing combat vehicle - BMD helicopter, which will provide high mobility for assault units with fire support capabilities for operations.

It is known that the AMTSH-VN version is equipped with two course 12,7 mm machine guns, which makes it possible for the crew to use special night vision goggles. The helicopter is equipped with a BKO (airborne defense system). Mi-8AMTSH-VN2 is armored. The cab and main units have armor made of titanium alloy; other sites are protected by Kevlar armor.

Comments

[aszzz888]

Mi-8AMTSH-VN2

I have nothing against 8 matches. But soon already, and the alphabet is not enough in the name of modernization ... For what? Confuse the enemies?

[Hunter 2]

Just such a good design! There are 8 matches, that since 1961 - there have been so many upgrades (improvements) that really soon not only letters but also numbers will end! More than 12 thousand cars produced! Great rate!

[aszzz888]

Hunter 2 (Aleksey) Today, 07:28 NEW
+1
Just such a good design! There are 8 matches, that since 1961 - there have been so many upgrades (improvements) that really soon not only letters but also numbers will end! More than 12 thousand cars produced! Great rate!

I agree that the car is almost brought to excellent Verified by life itself, in the full sense of the word.

[Glennie]

And more than 10.000 require repair and service, but that's not a problem, Miles does not give a license to anyone, and the office itself has no money to "embrace the immense."

[marshes]

Quote: Glenni

And more than 10.000 require repair and service, but that's not a problem, Miles does not give a license to anyone, and the office itself has no money to "embrace the immense."

Kazakhstan gave 405 plants. And there will also be a large-assembly Mi8 / 17 assembly

[Elephant]

Quote: Hunter 2

Excellent performance!

Among other things, this is an indicator that our design bureaus are treading water in one place due to underfunding of modern developments, the outflow of scientific personnel, etc. Yes, and production capacities, without proper modernization, wear out over time. As a result, whatever one may say, we have in our base the development of 58 years ago.

[L-39NG]

At one time there were two projects - Mi-40 and Mi-42. Who remembers?

[serg.shishkov2015]

They wrote about Mi-40 in * Wings of the Motherland * in 1995, a promising helicopter infantry fighting vehicle, a small drawing was given, since then it has been deaf

[AlexVas44]

Quote: aszzz888

soon already, and the alphabet is not enough in the name of modernization ..

The alphabet will go to the second round ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: AlexVas44

The alphabet will go to the second round ...

right, and the digital is still full)
proven reliable design, the reserve for modernization is huge

[Grits]

Quote: AlexVas44

The alphabet will go to the second round ...

This happened on tanks:
T -18, 26, 28, 34, 44, 54, 55, 62, 64, 72, 80, 90, 95
and on the second round
T-14

[polar fox]

Quote: aszzz888

For what? Confuse the enemies?

Well, Harley has the same notation ... they don't get confused. I'm used to it)))

[Grits]

Quote: aszzz888

Mi-8AMTSH-VN2

I have nothing against 8 matches. But soon already, and the alphabet is not enough in the name of modernization ... For what? Confuse the enemies?

Could simply be called - Mi-9. And if you confuse the enemies, then Mi-8,5

[SSR]

That is why so. Beautiful and understandable text, but worth picking, how are the questions right away?

rotorcraft combat landing vehicle - BMD helicopter, which will provide
high mobility of assault units

In the text they immediately write that there was a modernization in the equipment, there was a reservation, just due to what has now been achieved "high mobility"?
I have a bicycle, I fastened the trunk, a rearview mirror, a headlight ...... - Well, it turns out yes, it has become more mobile, but if all this has already happened? Screw in mud flaps?

[Evil543]

And 24-35? Armored firepower for the eyes, the landing takes, as much as the BMD?

[bouncyhunter]

I don’t know why you are being neglected, but I also thought about the Mi-24 family ...

[Evil543]

I probably have friends

[bouncyhunter]

Very likely . But you are definitely not alone!
Let the development come true in real cars!

[Old Michael]

How has "high mobility" been achieved now?

This is said about a promising complex:

Today, a perspective helicopter for airborne units is understood, in essence, as a helicopter wing combat landing vehicle - a BMD helicopter, which will provide high mobility for assault units with fire support capabilities for operations.

[Alex 2020]

Do not screw! Take off! You will have to get a pilot’s license

[Grits]

Quote from S.S.R.

I have a bicycle, I fastened the trunk, a rearview mirror, a headlight ...... - Well, it turns out yes, it has become more mobile, but if all this has already happened? Screw in mud flaps?

Plant a comrade behind and he will become a landing machine.

[SSR]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote from S.S.R.

I have a bicycle, I fastened the trunk, a rearview mirror, a headlight ...... - Well, it turns out yes, it has become more mobile, but if all this has already happened? Screw in mud flaps?

Plant a comrade behind and he will become a landing machine.

So I will put one more on the frame and they both have the automatic "kursum" in their hands! )))
Pancake! And now there are bicycles with an electric motor!
This is a silent, deadly and highly mobile war chariot!
PS
Recently, an article here was about a remote control machine that was tested in Syria. Which rustled like a tractor and blinked like a disco .... So, bicycles with an electric engine, scooters and other devices .. Ours can’t create a similar engine ?!

[Thrifty]

Actually it’s designed, and created these are two very large and different concepts! !! We may have already developed a spaceship, and we’ll create it in 300 years, at best!

[SovAr238A]

Noise reduction is the most important thing when determining a helicopter for special forces / MTR, etc.

And all these exchange machine guns are not even secondary ...

What's not news is someone’s blizzard. and the worst thing is that this blizzard is carried by people responsible for production ...

Oh, and the "people" in our defense industry ...

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: SovAr238A

Noise reduction is the most important thing when determining a helicopter for special forces / MTR, etc.

This is even theoretically impossible (design feature ), and the problem you voiced (unmasking the MTR drop-off point) is being solved by all countries by entering ground transport (from buggy to Hamer) and disembarking for "X" km from the theater.

[Victor_B]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

This is even theoretically impossible (design feature

Not a design, but a fundamental feature of the rotor.
The ends of the propeller move with supersonic speed, creating a ballistic wave.
Example: bullets are ordinary (supersonic) and for silent shooting (subsonic).
"Subsonic" rotor - no one needs it.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Victor_B

The ends of the propeller move with supersonic speed, creating a ballistic wave.

it seems like with transonic just because of the fact that the tips of the blades during supersound can create a wave, the rotational speed of the screw is limited, it was understood in the early 30's

[Victor_B]

Quote: SASHA OLD

sort of like transonic just

And here and there!
There, it is even more difficult on one side of the incoming stream, and on the other side of the runaway.
And the ends of the blades are still yes, supersonic, especially if moving towards the movement.

[SASHA OLD]

I understand you, just read that they knew about it before the Second World War

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

This is even theoretically impossible (design feature

Not a design, but a fundamental feature of the rotor.
The ends of the propeller move with supersonic speed, creating a ballistic wave.
Example: bullets are ordinary (supersonic) and for silent shooting (subsonic).
"Subsonic" rotor - no one needs it.

A little mistaken ....
In principle, 100% compliance in the form of the "supersonic = increased noise" axiom is incorrect.
Solutions are still found
Work is underway in this segment.
Blue Edge and Blue Pulse blades are designed to significantly reduce noise levels.
The use of finestron also significantly reduces the noise level.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: SovAr238A

Blue Edge and Blue Pulse blades are designed to significantly reduce noise levels.

Yes, there are many ideas, and many even "work", BUT there is always a big BUT, they are not launched into mass production because they do not work There is a significant nuance, all such tricks work only within the boundaries of certain conditions, and as soon as the helicopter goes beyond these boundaries, the noise returns again. As a rule, 90 +% of such notions do not work with horizontal flight under conditions of changing wind and / or maneuvering, that is, in the hover mode everything is fine, in the horizontal flight mode at low speed, too, but as soon as the maneuvering begins, the noise returns again. Or, for example, there are other restrictions, for example, on the payload, that is, everything is fine on a light reconnaissance helicopter, and again on the average transport helicopter noise ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: SovAr238A

The use of finestron also significantly reduces the noise level.

This is a replacement for the rear screw.

Quote: SovAr238A

In principle, 100% compliance in the form of the "supersonic = increased noise" axiom is incorrect.

Only a partial decrease is possible, but any body moving faster than sound draws a ballistic wave.
It is her that we hear, and not some kind of "overcoming the speed of sound, accompanied by a bang."
Not a damn thing about cotton, but if the MIG-29 flies at a height of 200 meters by 1,5M, it turns the car over! Glasses in the windows will not remain at all!
Including therefore it is forbidden to fly at low altitude in supersonic.

[Nikolaevich I]

Ugh, relieved! And then at the beginning of the reading I decided that in the BMD-4M the propeller was screwed!

[rocket757]

It is noted that the helicopter for special forces will receive a "higher level" system. We are talking about means of detecting and destroying targets, about recognition systems.

Further, faster, more powerful, less noticeable, "smarter", more sensitive ... in general, I will win the best of all and all.
If so, so be it!

[Yrec]

And what does the Mi-24 not suit?

[Dmitriy444]

On the Mi-24/35, it is problematic to drop special forces from hanging on ropes, to land on a limited area, it was created as an infantry fighting vehicle, but the landing party carries the Mi-8.

[Ros 56]

Mi-8 and An-2 are simply ingenious long-lived designs that survived their creators and at least a couple of generations of people and there is simply nothing to replace them with according to the price-quality system.

[Elephant]

I admit that they are centenarians because of poverty. Modern expensive technologies using new composite materials, spraying, etc. + computer simulation and calculations, allows you to do something super-new.

[Ros 56]

What does poverty have to do with it, not a single fuselage or a wing made of a composite can outperform the classics - stamped duralumin and percale, will be many times more expensive and therefore an hour of work will cost more. This is only a manufacture, and there are also operating costs, including repair, and again the classic will come out cheaper. These are the pies, therefore the An-2 has been flying for about 70 years and there is no equivalent for it in terms of cost or reliability.

[Zaurbek]

Course machine guns 12,7mm 2pcs what?

[Laksamana besar]

Cords on the suspension, with adaptation for night vision goggles.

[Eug]

As for me, you need to make an intermediate link between Mi-8/17 and Mi-28. Ideally, this link corresponds to Mi-35, which is well-armed, armored and can carry several landing personnel (up to 10, if I'm not mistaken). The capacity is approximately equivalent to BMD. To unify helicopters according to the supporting system (engines, propellers, gearboxes, tail transmission), to unify the equipment to the maximum, to make three types of fuselages (approximately corresponding to Mi - 8/17, 35 and 28). In principle, everything is already there, it remains to unify ...

[vadivm59]

and there is also mi-8amtsh-yoklmn abvgd56-87 -for super specialists in the Arctic

[lvov_aleksey]

I didn’t understand anything, but I like it, cheers !!!