“Malfunctions detected”: Polish media suspected problems with the “Thundering” corvette


Behind reports of testing the head corvette of Project 20385 “Thundering” hides the problems that Russian shipbuilders faced when creating this warship. These suspicions are voiced by the Polish edition of Defense24.


According to him, the media of the Russian Federation have already twice indicated the end of a series of tests - in the news of December 15, 2019 and January 20, 2020. Moreover, they were supposed to be completed a month ago with the transfer of the ship to the Pacific the fleet until December 26.

This may mean that the state tests of the corvette did not complete successfully.

- notes the publication, indicating that “Thundering”, instead of racing at full speed to the Far East, was sent to St. Petersburg, closer to the manufacturer - “Severnaya Verf”, “so that he would deal with the discovered problems.”

As Defense24 points out, this is not a sign of critical defects, since "it is a completely new ship, only in appearance resembling units of project 20380." Due to the many changes introduced, certain shortcomings are identified that need to be addressed. The greatest transformations compared with the 20380 type corvettes affected the Sigma combat information and control system.

This BIUS synchronizes the fight against air, surface, underwater and ground targets. Despite the fact that it is equipped with such a small ship, the displacement of which is 2-2,5 thousand tons. As Defense24 suggests, malfunctions of the Sigma became the main reason for the delay in transmitting the Navy corvette.

According to the publication, it is very likely that the frigate “Admiral Gorshkov” of project 22350, which has a similar Sigma system, faced the same problems.
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  1. Theodore 24 January 2020 05: 51 New
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    Psheks certainly know better! Specialists! what
    1. Hunter 2 24 January 2020 06: 03 New
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      This is their “mosquito” bite for publishing archival documents!
      But the Ship Is and Will Serve Russia, as they say - Envy Silently! yes
      What did Poland build? Having completely killed her shipbuilding ...
      1. Aviator_ 24 January 2020 08: 34 New
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        Perestroika at the Poles just began in 1981 at the Gdansk shipyard under the "direction" of the vice chairman Lech Walesa, an electrician drunkard. What shipbuilding is there?
        1. maxim947 24 January 2020 09: 09 New
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          The large landing ships of Project 775 were all built in Poland, in Gdansk, the last one descended in 1991. Then the shipyard began to bend.
          An interesting fact is that in November 2007 a 75% stake was acquired by the Ukrainian concern ISD Poland, owned by Sergey Taruta and Oleg Mkrtchan. 25% of the shares are owned by the Polish state-owned company ARP (Agencji Rozwoju Przemysłu, Industrial Development Agency).
          1. Serg65 24 January 2020 09: 19 New
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            Quote: maxim947
            The large landing ships of Project 775 were all built in Poland, in Gdansk.

            There, killers, demagnetization vessels, floating hospitals, expeditionary-oceanographic vessels in Szczecin were built there for the UVSG of the USSR Navy. The shipbuilding industry only lived on Soviet orders!
        2. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 09: 14 New
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          Quote: Aviator
          at the Gdansk shipyard under the "direction" of the vice chairman Lech Walesa, an electrician drunkard.

          It was he who muddied the disorder - after all, ships were being built at the shipyard for the USSR, Poland itself could not digest so many ships. The Soviet representatives of the Poles were tyranny there - they did not accept defective products ...
  2. aszzz888 24 January 2020 05: 53 New
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    As Defense24 points out, this is not a sign of a critical defect.

    Any NEW unit requires refinement. And not only in Russia, but throughout the world. Finish, in spite of the enemies. the Poles will still cry. bully
  3. morpogr 24 January 2020 06: 02 New
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    In the light of recent events, Poles watch and read all the Russian media laughing just to see something and learn to please yourself, and there is only zrad tongue .
  4. Uncle lee 24 January 2020 06: 27 New
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    Polish media suspected problems
    What insightful! And all the specialists! fool
    1. Pete mitchell 24 January 2020 09: 15 New
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      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Polish media suspected problems
      What insightful! And all the specialists! fool

      Let's wait, soon, following the example of the Britons, the Polish will catch up scientists, scouts, ...
  5. Chersky 24 January 2020 06: 58 New
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    Why did everyone shout so much? Well, an article about the corvette came out. Some suggestions were made about the possibility of some defects requiring refinement, but "not critical." Is it said somewhere that they are happy? Not. Well, maybe of course there are elements of joy in the original source, I haven’t read it (there’s no direct link to the source). As a matter of fact, I am sure, and most are here.
    And then it began: "Psheki! Specialists!", "" Mosquito "bite", "the Poles will still cry." Are you normal?
    1. kjhg 24 January 2020 08: 10 New
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      Most people think with stereotypes. It’s easier for them. Here they have the stereotypes of Ukrainians, Poles, Americans, etc., here they shove them anywhere. And those Ukrainians, Poles, etc., do the same. For them, Muscovite is necessarily a quilted jacket with slavish thinking. But neither one nor the other understands that their brain distorts reality for the least energy consumption.
      Here is what is written in this article? That corvette on time (before the New Year) could not pass state tests. Fact? Fact. Further, the author writes that a complex Sigma BIOS was installed on the corvette, which they might not have time to set up on time. Could this be? Can. But the reason could be any other system. False? Not. The author makes it clear that this is his assumption.
      But people, of course, will rush to put cons. Where there! We dared to stand up for the Pole! We are traitors and agents of the State Department! laughing Have a nice day hi
      1. Serg65 24 January 2020 08: 27 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        We are traitors and agents of the State Department!

        These are your words personally! And on this basis, you are trying your best to make white black and black white!
        1. kjhg 24 January 2020 08: 37 New
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          Quote: Serg65
          These are your words personally!

          If! They wrote to me more than once.
          Quote: Serg65
          And on this basis, you are trying your best to make white black and black white!

          This is your main problem. But oh horror! you don’t even suspect about her! The world is not black and white or even gray. The world is multifaceted. No need to try to simplify it to a primitive level. With your minuses, what you put to me, you will not redo it. And I'm not trying to repaint anything (except the gate. but I plan it for the summer) But you, of course, will understand nothing again. For you, he (the world), unfortunately, will remain black and white. But these are your personal problems, not mine. .
          1. Serg65 24 January 2020 09: 02 New
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            Quote: kjhg
            This is your main problem.

            My problem is that in the 91st such “always dissatisfied talkers” I considered for people, I naively thought that they would change their minds .... did not change their minds, you are a vivid example of this!
            Quote: kjhg
            The world is multifaceted

            I agree, the world is multifaceted! So rejoice in its versatility, and do not reduce everything to the primitive discontent of the reality surrounding you and to impose on everyone your “correct” opinion about the reconstruction of this world!
            Quote: kjhg
            the author writes that a complex Sigma BIOS is installed on the corvette, which could not have time to set up on time (and Serg65 could have time). Could this be? Can. But the reason could be any other system. False?

            Any information not supported by reliable facts is fiction, i.e. LIES! Therefore, you are justifying the author, also automatically are a liar!
            Quote: kjhg
            But you, of course, will not understand anything again

            But where am I, with my collective farm snout, into your elite series of enlightened defenders of the World!
      2. Krasnoyarsk 24 January 2020 10: 19 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        Most people think with stereotypes. It’s easier for them.

        I do not always agree with you, but in this case I will support it.
        Just your “minusers” are most criticized, say, by the mattress F-35. Despite the fact that it is produced in hundreds and bought by dozens of countries. Of course, it is possible to criticize ours, but the Poles don't, no way! Although pshek did not criticize the corvette as a whole. He simply expressed his assumptions about the reasons for the delay in adopting it. For all my negative attitude towards psheks, I cannot relate to this article otherwise.
        1. bayard 25 January 2020 00: 38 New
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          This is a head corvette, its armament has a large coefficient of novelty, and it is not surprising that the (state) tests lasted longer than the expected term. This is the lead ship.
          But the Pole really listed a number of possible shortcomings, making a reservation that these are assumptions. Did he want to pick Russia up again? Maybe . Or maybe I just wanted to please the Polish public, which is glad of any of our failures.
          According to the article, all that he suggested was based on the fact that the corvette did not “run straight to the Pacific Fleet”, but would first go to the Baltic for corrections. But he could not go there immediately after the tests. He really needs to put himself in order after state tests and prepare for a long transition to the Pacific Fleet. This is a long way, you need to take everything you need ... Raise the ANDREY FLAG finally (!), And indeed such ships alone do not go this far. Most likely there will be a tugboat, and a tanker and ... DEPL, which is also going to the Pacific Fleet.
          So access to the Pacific Fleet can only be from the Baltic.
          And the official announcement of the successful completion of state tests on the head corvette has no double interpretations.
          The ship is READY for adoption.
      3. lvov_aleksey 25 January 2020 22: 40 New
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        everything is beautiful, but I’ll add, and if not, we go by sea through the north,
        will there be tests for other vessels?
  6. Tusv 24 January 2020 06: 59 New
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    It flashed in the news that the corvette had tested a new weapon. What is new? Zircon? If this is true, then God himself ordered to test the launchers. Here the Poles do not laugh, but howl
    1. K-612-O 24 January 2020 07: 25 New
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      The latest news on Sun was about completing the tests and preparing for the inter-naval transition. Why the Psheks got their inventions is unknown. Yes, and probably will go in the spring, through the NSR.
      1. Amateur 25 January 2020 09: 54 New
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        Why the Psheks got their inventions is unknown.

        If the media and talkers from the Moscow Region hadn’t disclosed real terms, then there would have been less insinuations.
  7. Thrifty 24 January 2020 07: 26 New
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    Yeah, there is a problem - engines run on apple juice crying lol and apples are expensive, you’ll have to buy apples for corvette from Polyakhia lol
  8. rocket757 24 January 2020 07: 33 New
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    Okay, there will be a reason for them to fight ... here they are, rejoice.
    not all of them "vibrate" to the phrase "RUSSIAN GO"!
  9. Chigi 24 January 2020 07: 56 New
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    Quote: Chersky
    And then it began: "Psheki! Specialists!", "" Mosquito "bite", "the Poles will still cry." Are you normal?

    I fully support !!!!!
    Only a cutthroat mercenary can want "someone to cry."
    All children on our planet, all wives, daughters, sisters, mothers, have tears equally bitter.
    Fathers-commanders taught me exactly that.
  10. Chigi 24 January 2020 08: 31 New
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    Quote: kjhg
    Here is what is written in this article? That corvette on time (before the New Year) could not pass state tests. Fact? Fact. Further, the author writes that a complex Sigma BIOS was installed on the corvette, which they might not have time to set up on time. Could this be? Can. But the reason could be any other system. False? Not. The author makes it clear that this is his assumption.

    The author of the article (why it appeared at VO is unclear) analyzed the opinion of the Polish media. request
    He did not say anything new, but "doused" (with what he had accumulated) the Navy.
    But the fact that few ships are being built is yes, not good.
    However, any message about the construction of new weapons (aircraft, ship, tank) increases the combat effectiveness of military units.
    It shows “what we can build”, gives an understanding that in normal life “we will configure a lot”.
    And the fact that I have to go into attacks with AK and MPL, as it essentially does not change anything.
    The main mood !!!
  11. Gray brother 24 January 2020 08: 34 New
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    References to the source in the articles must be given, this is a sign of serious publication, good taste and respect for the reader.
    And then the site on yellowness became similar to the newspaper "Speed-Info".
    1. Chersky 24 January 2020 08: 44 New
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      Absolutely right! And it is easy to check the Old, and it is reasonable to argue with the facts. And then it really looks like the "OBS" agency)
      1. thinker 24 January 2020 10: 29 New
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        "Who seeks will always find!" yes
        https://www.defence24.pl/rosjanie-strasza-kalibrami-z-morza-barentsa-ukrywaja-problemy-z-korwetami
  12. cniza 24 January 2020 08: 59 New
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    “Malfunctions detected”: Polish media suspected problems with the “Thundering” corvette


    One more “experts”, they’ll definitely understand without you.
  13. seregin-s1 24 January 2020 09: 14 New
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    State tests completed. The ship is preparing for the inter-naval transition. Sent to the Baltic Sea to raise the flag. What is the problem? It is scary to send a small corvette by the northern sea route. And on the way to the Pacific Fleet, he will visit many foreign ports to replenish supplies and display the flag.
  14. Ros 56 24 January 2020 09: 24 New
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    Lyakhi as always woof-woof, and to us ...... from a high mountain.
  15. bars1 24 January 2020 10: 17 New
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    It would be better if the Poles rejoiced in the commissioning of their patrol (from poverty) ersatz corvette. It was built for 18 years and several times during the construction process it was launched, and then it was returned to the shipyard for completion.
  16. Ratmir_Ryazan 24 January 2020 11: 08 New
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    The Polish media would rather pay attention to their shipbuilding on their fleet.

    The Polish fleet is one junk thrown around the world.

    Poland has built its corvette pr.621 Grach according to the German project since 2001, dreamed of a series of 7 corvettes, but in the end they didn’t even do one, turning it into a patrol ship by 2018.

    But instead of discussing their problems, they decided to dream up on the topic of flaws on the ships of Russia.
  17. Black Colonel 24 January 2020 11: 47 New
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    Polish media, they are so advanced, FSE about all know.
  18. Luty 24 January 2020 12: 16 New
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    You can criticize the Poles as much as you like. But in terms of publishing magazines and books related to the fleet, they are doing very well here. And this is far from a Great Sea Power having several fleets and flotillas. It would be worth learning from them. And we have produced a very modest number of magazines and books and their number has decreased compared to the late 90s and early 2000s. Everyone was doing enthusiasts, and their number is not infinite.
  19. 22 dmdc 24 January 2020 13: 01 New
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    Quote: maxim947
    Large landing craft project 775

    Actually, the 775 project is an average BDK. But a political decision was made.
  20. Alex 2020 24 January 2020 13: 33 New
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    To do this, they conduct tests to identify shortcomings and problems, for subsequent elimination. Therefore, let them write what they want. The main thing is that everything would be fine with us.
  21. sailor roman 24 January 2020 18: 19 New
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    For 30 years of service in the Navy of the USSR, I had the opportunity to serve twice in the first, in a series of new ships. It took 3-4 years to finalize the first-series ships. It is a common practice to fine-tune the first in a series of ships of almost all countries.
  22. Petrol cutter 24 January 2020 20: 27 New
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    Probably that’s why he’s the head one. Even a word is not casual! To identify problems and not repeat them in a series.
    We have the head "Sargan" which for a minute will be four times so smaller. Two weeks probably already pulled / pulled out every Divine day for fine-tuning after running. Something with speed seems to be somehow wrong. It does not give a scoundrel a hundred kilometers per hour ... So it’s easier for us. Its fifty-ton crane lifts / lowers. You can even ride to and fro until retirement ...
  23. Polar Bear 24 January 2020 22: 19 New
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    Problems for the lead ship and their elimination is always in the order of things for everyone. In the same Poland, I was once seconded for a month to accept the lead ship, and returned after 6.
  24. Joker62 25 January 2020 08: 32 New
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    ... let's say mattress F-35. Despite the fact that it is produced in hundreds and bought by dozens of countries.

    Buy this pelvis not brought to mind by the hundreds - is that how?
    Most likely, they buy with arm-twisting and the threat of sanctions. It will be accurate and true. As for our military products, as a rule, everything is brought to an end, eliminating all childhood diseases, and only then it goes to the troops.
    1. V.I.P. 25 January 2020 17: 22 New
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      C'mon .. Of the threats? So some countries refuse to purchase F-35. By the way, like India, she abandoned the project for a 5th generation airplane with us ... .... And if the F-22/35 is so bad, what about Europeans, Japanese, Chinese, South Koreans, Turks and the Russian Federation trying to create something like this at home ?. .. If V-2 is so bad, what does the Russian Federation draw pictures with PAK YES identical to V-2? You don’t know why the FSB special forces go in multicam, in plastic helmets, with tactical headphones, glasses, gloves, with eotech or animpont collimators, with plastic knee pads and elbow pieces (and everyone is already switching to sewn-in ones)? According to the patriots, this is all foreign means bad)))). And only our overcoats, kirzachi and AK - this is the standard)).
  25. lvov_aleksey 25 January 2020 22: 42 New
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    everything is beautiful, but I’ll add, and if not, we go by sea through the north,
    will there be tests for other vessels?