Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state. This was stated by Prime Minister of Ukraine Aleksey Goncharuk.


Speaking at the International Economic Forum in Davos, Goncharuk said that Ukrzaliznytsia would be transferred to the management of Germany’s largest railway operator Deutsche Bahn for ten years. He recorded on his Telegram page the signing of a memorandum of cooperation between the Ukrainian Ministry of Infrastructure and Deutsche Bahn.

Goncharuk promised "German operational efficiency and zero tolerance for corruption." At the same time, he claims that it is only about the management of "Ukrzaliznitsa", but not the sale of state property.

Goncharuk emphasized that German specialists will work on reforming the management mechanisms of the enterprise. Earlier, the Ukrainian prime minister said that the railway infrastructure of Ukraine was almost completely destroyed.

In turn, the German national railway operator Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways, but will only conduct consultations through its own consulting company. According to the Deutsche Bahn press service, this is what the signed memorandum says, not external management.

DB Engineering & Consulting - a consulting company within Deutsche Bahn that works on projects in the areas of infrastructure, mobility and transport - will advise and support Ukrzaliznytsia in business and technical matters

- said in a statement.
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  1. Viktor Sergeev 23 January 2020 19: 05 New
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    He also promised German prices and his stuffed pocket. The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.
    1. The popuas 23 January 2020 19: 09 New
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      They give it where they take it ... But also German efficiency, not like a long harness. I feel the drawbacks grab. repeat
      1. krot 23 January 2020 19: 12 New
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        In turn, the German national railway operator Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways, but will only conduct consultations through its own consulting company. According to the Deutsche Bahn press service, this is what the signed memorandum says, and not about external management.

        The Sumerians, as always, distorted everything.
        1. major147 23 January 2020 19: 53 New
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          Quote: krot
          The Sumerians, as always, distorted everything.

          How many “Varangians” have come to power since Maidan! And where are they all? Decent seeing this "transvestite show" fled for fear of messing up their reputation, and grabbers grabbed .... and also fled from this pierced "under-titanic"! Now there was an industry that was not completely dead, which they would try to use as a bait for Euro-suckers.
          1. Shurik70 23 January 2020 20: 09 New
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            our land is great and plentiful and there is no order in it, come to reign and rule us

            I used to be sure that the story with the called Vikings was invented by foreigners.
            The then Kievites could not say so.
            And now I doubt it ...
            what
            1. alexmach 23 January 2020 20: 29 New
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              The then Kievans could not say so

              Kievans?
              1. Shurik70 23 January 2020 21: 11 New
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                Quote: alexmach
                The then Kievans could not say so

                Kievans?

                So it was in Kiev and called.
                Most of the settlements didn’t care who collected the tribute from them. They would be better off without these pickers. And it happened and they killed tribute collectors.
                It was in Kiev, according to legend, that the Vikings reigned, they were called there
                1. ANB
                  ANB 23 January 2020 22: 03 New
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                  They called, I remember, with this text of Rurik to Staraya Ladoga. But in Kiev, too, the Vikings reigned, until Oleg pushed them. Also Varangian.
                  This is all according to the textbooks, how exactly everything has not yet been clarified.
                2. alexmach 23 January 2020 23: 36 New
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                  So it was in Kiev and called.

                  The time has come for wonderful stories.

                  No matter how much you know so much about the subject, you can even have an opinion about it?

                  Rurik (d. 879) - according to the ancient Russian annalistic tradition the Varangian, Novgorod prince and ancestor
                  1. Shurik70 24 January 2020 13: 14 New
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                    If we climbed into Wikipedia, we look further into legends.
                    Rurik, like a prince of Novgorod, presumably of Varangian origin, is considered the founder of Ancient (also known as Kiev) Rus. And the capital of Kievan Rus is Kiev.
                    Rurik ruled in Novgorod, and gave his associates Askold and Diru to Kiev. After the death of Rurik, his cousin Oleg, who became the guardian of the son of Rurik, captured Kiev by deception. It was Oleg who made Kiev the capital.

                    In general, now you know the real truth. As there was. Different annals contradict each other.
                    1. alexmach 24 January 2020 14: 39 New
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                      AND? where does it follow that the Kievans called him and not the Novgorodians? (In the Tale, it is clearly written who called .. directly named.)
          2. rich 24 January 2020 01: 31 New
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            Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

            For some reason, immortal lines came to mind from this news:
            Deutsche Bahn pushed a noisy crowd at night Ukrzaliznytsya steam locomotive
            And only in the morning I guessed
            That the engine was without wheels wink
      2. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 14 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        They give it where they take it ... But also German efficiency, not like a long harness. I feel the drawbacks grab. repeat

        Well, the IMF then defaulted to the IMF. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...
        1. The popuas 23 January 2020 19: 17 New
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          IMF is a tool! What side are the Germans here? request
          1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 18 New
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            Quote: Popuas
            IMF is a tool! What side are the Germans here? request

            Well, let's see. Efficiency you wrote. So let's see.
            1. The popuas 23 January 2020 19: 19 New
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              And here the IMF ... please explain what you wanted to say ...
              1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 22 New
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                Quote: Popuas
                And here the IMF ... please explain what you wanted to say ...

                I will try. IMF narrows money. It seems like he wants to help. Here the Germans took the "effective".
                I compared only. Help from the IMF and the Germans. Let's see who turns out to be more effective.
            2. Piramidon 23 January 2020 19: 23 New
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              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              Well, we'll see.

              But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.
              1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 29 New
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                Quote: Piramidon
                Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                Well, we'll see.

                But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.

                These are the problems of the Germans.
              2. Blue fox 23 January 2020 20: 28 New
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                Quote: Piramidon

                But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there

                So the collapse will remain, and the Germans will only indicate what needs to be done, such as a complete renewal of the rolling stock, replacement of the track’s upper structure and the introduction of the latest automation, they will receive hundreds of thousands of miles for such a consultation. :) As a result, Ukraine will pay for beautiful reports with money that could go for a real repair of something. I suspect that one of the recommendations will be the need to insure the railway against technological disasters in some same Deutsche Bank :)))) for another hundred thousand miles :)
                1. Fikys 24 January 2020 02: 25 New
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                  Quote: Blue Fox
                  I suspect that one of the recommendations will be the need to insure the railway against technological disasters in some same Deutsche Bank :)))) for another hundred thousand miles :)

                  And this will be the only recommendation implemented! laughing
              3. Baloo 23 January 2020 21: 12 New
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                Quote: Piramidon
                Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                Well, we'll see.

                But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.

                And what, in Ukraine, not all the rails have been handed over for scrap? belay
                1. Piramidon 23 January 2020 22: 26 New
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                  Quote: Balu
                  And what, in Ukraine, not all the rails have been handed over for scrap?

                  Sleepers still remain
                  1. Uncle lee 24 January 2020 05: 22 New
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                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Spacious

                    "It's over, the sound of wheels knocked,
                    The sleepers are over, there are no rails "....
                    V. Vysotsky
              4. 16329 23 January 2020 23: 08 New
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                This is just consulting, they will be paid, and they will Study, write reports and offer solutions in the form of presentations, descriptions, etc.
                The Germans love it
                No responsibility whatsoever
          2. 16329 23 January 2020 23: 02 New
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            Why is everyone still confident in some kind of German efficiency, there is no word for it at all, German companies have long been jealous of Japanese, and now many Chinese companies.
            Everything is done for a very long time, wild bureaucracy and irresponsibility, the quality is mediocre
            Here everyone lives with some kind of memories from the 70s of the 20th century
            And DB in general is constantly criticized and schedule failures have long been normal
        2. Kastorkin 23 January 2020 19: 32 New
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          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Well, the IMF then defaulted to the IMF. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...

          And I remember Russia too .. EBN drunk "But the hell knows where the money went 3 billion .." .. Remember?
          1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 33 New
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            Quote: Kastorkin
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Well, the IMF then defaulted to the IMF. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...

            And I remember Russia too .. EBN drunk "But the hell knows where the money went .." .. Remember?

            Well, what about. For the rest of my life, what’s called. People with "fair" faces.
        3. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 21: 10 New
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          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Well, the IMF then defaulted to the IMF.

          If only Argentina ...
      3. 210ox 23 January 2020 20: 01 New
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        The "Germans" come from Khokhlostan. Here and all the efficiency.
      4. orionvitt 23 January 2020 20: 01 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing

        Efficiency is where something works. : Railways, this is the "circulatory system" of the economy. What can you say you can carry on the Ukrainian railways, if the industry is ruined, and the economy is in ruins? Moreover, with the prices of Ukrzaliznytsia, it is much cheaper to transport goods by road. Many still working enterprises in Ukraine are trying to do so. The exception is mainly metallurgical plants, there is no “iron” in any way, but they have nowhere to go. I have a railway near me. Previously, trains rattled every five minutes (mainly to the Crimea), now twice a day, to Kiev and Lviv. Well, even commuter trains. I’m generally silent about the goods, once in the "five-year period". So, within the local branch of the road, it’s not necessary to drive “two trains and three electric trains”. The same situation throughout Ukraine.
        Give where they take ..
        A moot point, if given, why not take it. And they give and take where it is sewn into the economic system and laws do not work.
        1. Piramidon 23 January 2020 23: 32 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          What can you say you can carry on Ukrainian railways

          They have not sold everything there yet. Here is what remains and will be carried to the "market" laughing
          1. 4ekist 23 January 2020 23: 47 New
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            For example, chernozem right on the rails.
      5. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 20: 55 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing.

        Only here is the summation that the Germans will clean up for free, they also identify with the saying "Why did God send the poor to us."
        1. lucul 23 January 2020 22: 07 New
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          they also know the saying, "Why did God send the poor to us."

          Something I also did not hear such a saying)))
          1. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 23: 33 New
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            Quote: lucul
            Something I also did not hear such a saying)))

            So this is a Russian proverb.
      6. Starover_Z 23 January 2020 22: 19 New
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        Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state.

        They survived ... If there is such a long-term enterprise, and even in such a region, consider it at the crossroads of the Euro-Turkish-sea roads and put under someone else's control - it's like at home, until no one returns, put a noose around your neck for penny debts to a neighbor!
      7. Alexey RA 24 January 2020 15: 14 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing.

        Oh yes ... Willy Brandt Berlin-Brandenburg Airport is an example of this. smile
    2. figwam 23 January 2020 19: 10 New
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      Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state.

      Once again, the insolvency and artificiality of this state is confirmed.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 11 New
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        Quote: figvam
        Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state.

        Once again, the artificiality of this state is confirmed.

        It seems that Bandera didn’t bring "order" ...
        1. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 21: 14 New
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          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          It seems that Bandera didn’t bring order

          Hope for the bandora, but don’t be a bad guy yourself. And uncle will not work for them.
      2. SRC P-15 23 January 2020 19: 13 New
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        Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

        That lips rolled out! Now they will also change your European track! laughing
      3. Evil543 23 January 2020 19: 20 New
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        Deutezaliznitsa, state operator for the export of black soil, about how. repeat
    3. Starover_Z 23 January 2020 19: 27 New
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      [quote] Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state. This was stated by Prime Minister of Ukraine Aleksey Goncharuk. [/ Quote]
      [/ quote] Shaw, already u, have played enough t?
      N-th number of years back in the "Ukrzaliznytsia" in some programs switched to the Ukrainian language, and SHO ?! CFM Moldova could not cope with trains on the outskirts of mov! But mine! Like Yes ?!
      1. Brturin 23 January 2020 19: 38 New
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        The same Goncharuk in October - "The infrastructure that we inherited from the Soviet Union was almost destroyed. It was constantly depleted by corrupt officials, stupid managers and leaders ... We have 90% depleted of Ukrzaliznytsya. That is, the railway that you see now she’s really almost destroyed. " Good advertisement for a foreign investor ...
      2. Nyrobsky 23 January 2020 21: 07 New
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        Quote: Starover_Z
        Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state. This was stated by Prime Minister of Ukraine Aleksey Goncharuk.Shaw, already u, have played enough t?

        Well, it’s not quite “enough”, but the ending is close. At first they built the whole nenka under external management, but it somehow went wrong with Ukrzaliznitsa. But now everything, and its two-track attached. Soon, these “slaves” will haughtily see how American and German “migrant workers” will rule Ukraine and sweat the babos, and they will be fat and catch on the meaning of their maid speech - “Don’t be a stranger, here sovereign of Ukrainians. "
        1. LiSiCyn 23 January 2020 22: 31 New
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          Dmitriy hi ..... I remember))
          There are two possible options ...
          1) The Germans come in to assess the situation, assets and in order to earn money (if the game is not a game, it’s not worth the while).
          2) “Nebrati” think to shove the train and grab it last. But they will soon pay the Germans for services (putting part in their pocket) and remain in the same position, face down.
          1. Nyrobsky 23 January 2020 23: 11 New
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            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Dmitry ..... I remember))

            Greetings Stas hi See see )))
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            2) “Nebrati” think to shove the train and grab it last. But they will soon pay the Germans for services (putting part in their pocket) and remain in the same position, face down.

            This is the most likely scenario for further developments good
    4. Thrifty 23 January 2020 19: 55 New
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      All ukroina under external control of the usa! They will lower three skins from the Germans for their property! Although the Germans themselves are not eager to fit into this chaos, they do not need an extra headache. ..
    5. Svetlana 23 January 2020 21: 01 New
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      They give, but not from "black", but from white. "What thread is the fee for the lecture or there" for help in ... "
      1. Svetlana 23 January 2020 21: 28 New
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        Cashboxes meant. Not from the black box office
    6. maidan.izrailovich 24 January 2020 03: 30 New
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      The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.

      This is not about who bought whom.
      What is happening in the neighboring territory proves once again that this territory without Russia (and Russians) cannot be an independent state.
    7. Vend 24 January 2020 10: 14 New
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      Well, the soul rushed to paradise laughing logically, the next step is the statement that the Ukrainians cannot rule the country themselves, we need external management and division of the country.
    8. den3080 24 January 2020 10: 55 New
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      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      He also promised German prices and his stuffed pocket. The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.

      Deutsche Ban disappeared :))

      404 self-gunners for a cannon shot can not be allowed to normal, working structures and mechanisms.
      everything will fall apart.
      They would be in NATO and the European Union :)) 2-3 years and krants to the above structures.
  2. Reserve buildbat 23 January 2020 19: 05 New
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    Some would be happy to sell, but others are not eager to buy unprofitable trash.
  3. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 19: 07 New
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    "Independent" ... The horror is simple.
  4. Vasyan1971 23 January 2020 19: 07 New
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    In turn, the German national railway operator Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways

    Tough meeting ukrohotelok with Euroreality.
    Though affectionate, though languid, but under Germanic ordnung to climb ...
    1. major147 23 January 2020 19: 57 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Tough meeting ukrohotelok with Euroreality.

  5. Sky strike fighter 23 January 2020 19: 09 New
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    The sale is gaining momentum. First they forced people (zarobitchans) to work abroad, that is, they sold the country's human resources, then they sold the law on the sale of land to foreigners, now the turn has reached the railway. No wonder the West sponsored the Maidan.
    A profitable business was the result, the main thing is to find traitors at the top of the government and remove those who disagree with the sale of the country.
    1. AU Ivanov. 23 January 2020 19: 59 New
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      Outside management is not a sale.
  6. eagle owl 23 January 2020 19: 11 New
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    under the external control of Deutsche Bahn

    Banned)
  7. Prisoner 23 January 2020 19: 11 New
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    Such self-serving - self-serving. Generally not slaves and stupid patriots. laughing
  8. Kleber 23 January 2020 19: 11 New
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    The Germans not in vain refused. There, such financial injections are needed to modernize the designs and mechanisms of the right of way, as well as to replace the rolling stock, which even Deutsche Bahn will not master. But the consultation for Ukrainian money is that they are forever.
    1. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 21: 17 New
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      Quote: Kleber
      There, such financial injections are needed to modernize the designs and mechanisms of the right of way, as well as to replace rolling stock

      Simply put, "Yes, it's time to change everything there a long time ago."
  9. knn54 23 January 2020 19: 14 New
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    “Motr Sich” to the Chinese, “Ukrzaliznytsia” to the Germans. What next?
    1. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 21: 17 New
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      Quote: knn54
      What's next?

      The land of Monsante.
    2. maidan.izrailovich 24 January 2020 03: 32 New
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      .What's next?

      Russian city Kiev Russia.
  10. rocket757 23 January 2020 19: 15 New
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    pi pi pi kukuevskaya country, piggy is sintered!
    By the way, it’s cool, they didn’t take their Nemts by force, our people stood up, now the Germans will get their cookies .... And sho, the people are “beads”, and the waffles are covered in chocolate !!!
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  12. paul3390 23 January 2020 19: 16 New
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    Yes, they would have appointed an open Gauleiter already - there would have been less fuss. There are some presidents, glad ..
  13. Gennady Fomkin 23 January 2020 19: 16 New
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    Why? Consultants are the most free profession, they generally are not responsible for anything, they only get money. And if the stone flower did not come out, then you can always say that the performers did not follow their recommendations correctly. laughing
    1. carstorm 11 23 January 2020 19: 47 New
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      not at all like that. they risk reputation in the first place, and that’s all they have from their main assets. any errors even if the perpetrator is to blame cannot be copied. everyone will know about it. in the consulting market, such numbers do not work. that's what they, judging by the statement, can change to help so immediately and they say, in business and technical matters. most likely they will make a special center and equip it will help that a normal company should help. but I doubt whether these clowns will help. all this will be useless without updating the entire fleet, even if their locomotives are scary to look at. but where did they get the money for this is the question of the questions)
      1. AU Ivanov. 23 January 2020 20: 59 New
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        They still have cargo VL-8s, an electric locomotive of the early 50s. They were written off from us back in the 90s.
        1. Sofa expert 24 January 2020 06: 06 New
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          C'mon ... We still have vl80 of the same years of release, and nothing.
    2. orionvitt 23 January 2020 20: 11 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      you can always say that the performers did not follow their recommendations correctly

      Chickens rested, sorry, but I still have so many ideas. laughing
  14. salad 23 January 2020 19: 17 New
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    I see this name all day all the day and I can’t pronounce it ,,,, yeah the Germans offered advice and the ukshumers already jump into the dance)))) redeem urrraaaaaa))) we will live))))))))
    1. Mordvin 3 23 January 2020 23: 11 New
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      Quote: salat
      I see this name all day in the news and can’t pronounce it,

      I really can’t read it. Uk ... Ukrz ... Ukraz ... Well, nafig, in short. laughing
  15. Kerensky 23 January 2020 19: 19 New
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    We also had ... It has long been true. A penny for a mile from the pond at first asked the bourgeoisie.
    Will the company provide only consultations on a paid basis? Yes, any boss will bark: "Do as the Hans said! Payed for them with currency!" And that’s all ...
    1. tihonmarine 23 January 2020 21: 21 New
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      Quote: Kerensky

      We also had ... It has long been true. A penny for a mile from the pond at first asked the bourgeoisie.

      The Germans will deliver a German bacon.
  16. Gennady Fomkin 23 January 2020 19: 20 New
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    Hitler Deutsche Bahn Kaput! laughing
  17. Kastorkin 23 January 2020 19: 22 New
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    The outskirts intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state.

    Well, soon, as before, guest workers in freight cars to Germany, etc. begin to send to work and trains with black soil, so that there is someone to unload and distribute gut gut in the fields .. Cheap and effective! But tse Europe .. laughing
  18. ak1978 23 January 2020 19: 28 New
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    Ost plan in action
  19. God save the king 23 January 2020 19: 28 New
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    Here it is, independence under the European boot.
    Soon, Ukrainians will envy the Russians, you just have to wait!
    1. Prisoner 23 January 2020 21: 31 New
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      request You might think they are not envious. They have passed this envy from generation to generation.
  20. nm76 23 January 2020 19: 29 New
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    Guys, I heard that this year we will put up for sale what we did not manage to privatize in the 90s ...
    How is it with the Russian Railways, will they be sold in whole or in parts (rails, stations, rolling stock, depot, departmental rest houses, administrative buildings, vocational schools, etc.)?
    1. KCA
      KCA 23 January 2020 19: 35 New
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      Papers will be sold, shares are called, or even without paper at all, the forest must be protected, in the electronic registry of the place
    2. Prisoner 23 January 2020 21: 31 New
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      Where is it, clown?
      1. nm76 23 January 2020 21: 39 New
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        We have clowns - this is the same place where you have military-patriotic marginals ... We go under one god.
  21. Andrea 23 January 2020 19: 37 New
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    Easily and thoughtlessly put the circulatory system of the country into the wrong hands. You can say, Ukraine as a state ended.
    1. orionvitt 23 January 2020 20: 15 New
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      Quote: Andrea
      You can say, Ukraine as a state ended.

      The state of Ukraine ended without starting. Nothing is built, nothing is done. On the contrary, everything is eaten up, sold, destroyed, the population is declining, the territories are losing, plus they have gained a civil war. How can this be called a state?
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        Quote: orionvitt
        Nothing is built, nothing is done.
        On the contrary, everything is eaten up, sold and destroyed,
        Population is declining, territories are losing,
        Plus a civil war has been made.
        How can this be called a state?

        Yes, this is a white verse! You can quite put on the music: "Everything is eaten up and destroyed, the territory is shrinking, money has been drunk, it will not go back .."
        Reminds imperishable: "We will never be brothers, Truseli lacy drunk ..."
        You need to put it on the music somehow!
        1. orionvitt 24 January 2020 02: 25 New
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          Quote: Ezekiel
          You need to put it on the music somehow!

          God did not equate with such a talent. Just pent.
  22. Sergey Averchenkov 23 January 2020 19: 39 New
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    Guys, I heard that this year we will put up for sale what we did not manage to privatize in the 90s ...
    How is it with the Russian Railways, will they be sold in whole or in parts (rails, stations, rolling stock, depot, departmental rest houses, administrative buildings, vocational schools, etc.)?

    Who do you have?
    1. nm76 23 January 2020 19: 47 New
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      The forecast plan for privatizing federal property and the main directions of privatizing federal property for 2020–2022 have been approved.

      Order of December 31, 2019 No. 3260-p. The forecast privatization plan for federal property provides for the privatization of shares of 2020 joint-stock companies, 2022 federal state unitary enterprises, the Russian Federation’s participation in 186 limited liability companies, more than one thousand objects of other property of the state treasury in 86–13.
      1. orionvitt 23 January 2020 20: 30 New
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        Quote: nm76
        Order of December 31, 2019 No. 3260-p.

        If you write in a training manual, then at least get acquainted with the source. This document clearly indicates, "except for enterprises of strategic importance", to which the railway belongs.
        1. nm76 23 January 2020 20: 41 New
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          This year we haven’t even given us new manuals, by the way, I don’t have last year’s. Could you share your training manual, otherwise it seems to me that sometimes I retreat from the general line.
  23. evgen1221 23 January 2020 19: 42 New
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    The big question is, do the Germans themselves need to rake these stables?
    1. 210ox 23 January 2020 20: 27 New
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      Who told you that they will rake? With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool.
    2. cat Rusich 23 January 2020 21: 01 New
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      There is a reason to rake the "Augean stables" - horse manure fertilizer - costs $, rake the "stables" into your "Garmanets" (moshna in Russian). 10 years just advise Ukrzaliznytsia wassat "what, where and at what price to buy, repair ... get for" advice fellow "$ - get kickbacks from" grateful contractors bully ". As an example, we can recall the purchase of locomotives for BILLION $" Ukrzaliznytsya wassat General Electric bully ".
    3. Incvizitor 23 January 2020 21: 18 New
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      Consultations hardly mean raking this "wild field".
  24. Fat
    Fat 23 January 2020 20: 04 New
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    Thank. I understand .... Now on the train Moscow Kiev not a eh.
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    Poor poor Germans !!! They have no idea who they are contacting!
  26. Barmaleyka 23 January 2020 20: 26 New
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    Ukrzaliznytsia under the external management of Deutsche Bahn

    1. cat Rusich 23 January 2020 21: 04 New
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      Crimea OUR (Russia). Correct the picture ...
  27. monster 23 January 2020 21: 05 New
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    Yes, Bandera, yes! Do not stop! The faster you all, finally, will shine, the sooner the South-East of Ukraine will send your pigrein with a pig, and a pig! Will send, and will become part of Russia.
  28. Fishery 23 January 2020 21: 07 New
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    Yes, they have already refuted, they will just advise
    1. fighter angel 24 January 2020 12: 22 New
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      Tonya.
      First, REFUTED! not "refuted."
      Secondly - Yes, they will only “advise.” Keep your pockets wider! Yeah, right now!
      Remove the pasta from your ears and finally throw away your pink glasses! Everything went under the hammer in your country, and you should not pretend to hope for something good.
      1. Fishery 24 January 2020 13: 52 New
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        in fact, this cannot but please me)))) let them probably already sell everything)
        1. fighter angel 24 January 2020 13: 54 New
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          Something I do not understand you.
          Is it sarcasm, or are you really happy that foreigners are taking away your country?
          1. Fishery 24 January 2020 13: 56 New
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            sincerely) I’m also waiting for the land to be sold, it’s better to have a Frenchman, Turk, German in the neighbors than local goons
            1. fighter angel 24 January 2020 15: 51 New
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              Do you directly think that a respectable burgher will tumble down to you? He’ll bring a bunch of dough, his girls, will share it with you, and here you will “panic”, right ?!
              But the reality may be somewhat different.
              Do you think that all wealthy Europeans with the Turks, in addition, are sleeping and seeing how
              would they buy land in Ukraine?
              And now they are just going to rush to you with the whole crowd?
              No matter how, dear!
              They don’t need you for hell, even with the earth, even without the earth!
              Although no, of course we need to clean the toilets and clean them.
              For a penny wage and assholes.
              And the garnishes of the woman are in tolerance houses.

              But another option is possible.
              Don't you think that a ghetto camp for refugees from Africa will appear next to you? Or, for example, they will make a "household waste landfill", and it is good if only - "household".
              Another option is that the chemical production banned in Europe will be taken and delivered next door to you.
              1. Fishery 24 January 2020 17: 32 New
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                and next to household and not very waste)) I have already lived in the Urals for 20 years, live there yourself)
            2. fighter angel 24 January 2020 16: 02 New
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              Tonya.
              But by and large, if you really think so:
              "... sincerely) I’m also waiting for the land to be sold, it’s better to have a Frenchman, a Turk, a German in the neighbors, than local goons ..."
              then I congratulate you, you are degrading, and alas, you deserve what they are doing to you now and will continue to do so!
              1. Fishery 24 January 2020 17: 30 New
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                Well, this is your opinion,))) in my reality, we are at different levels of understanding) I think the material component) and while you proudly confront the world and the evil imperialists in your head, someone is working and feeling great, so I’m right now Now, moreover, to varying degrees of freedom, in terms of taking here and moving to evil Europeans and treacherous Turks, living for your own pleasure and not waiting for a pension from the state, and finally I sincerely think and already have an Italian in my neighbors who makes cheese and is calm lives for itself) and God forbid them out in most of the neighboring people who think like you.
                1. fighter angel 25 January 2020 00: 43 New
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                  Your zhupanskoe hohlyachstvo nevertheless crawled out: without knowing anything about the opponent, in this case, about me, you are already beginning to boast of your “material component”, that you supposedly “panet” somewhere, you have a neighbor Italians. Do you not think that the opponent can be much higher than you in terms of social status and financial position? Think about it before writing about how to "panuyut" in Uzin ...
                  Well, listening / reading all your statements here at VO, you begin to understand that the media are talking in vain about the atrocities of Ukrainian Nazis. Judging by your "life position", and especially about your sincere desire to sell the land as soon as possible, these "hopes" of yours are clearly not being finalized ...
                  1. Fishery 25 January 2020 01: 00 New
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                    they’re not finalizing) this is a fact, like the scrap collectors) both fractions are very limited) but they have extremely cunning leaders)
                    1. fighter angel 25 January 2020 11: 17 New
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                      Well, about the cunning, I do not know, here you know better.
                      Apparently, you have the majority there, and you are one of these same ...
                      1. Fishery 25 January 2020 13: 46 New
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                        fortunately not the majority) I just know how people squeeze out the rented land and what they do on a private land, but it's no longer interesting to argue, good luck.
  29. 320423 23 January 2020 21: 22 New
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    All you need to know about German railway operators:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGjUAcV6cg
  30. Alexey from Perm 23 January 2020 21: 24 New
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    Preparing for the German occupation, if only not for Putin and Russia))
    1. Fishery 24 January 2020 13: 52 New
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      absolutely right)
  31. Moskovit 23 January 2020 21: 36 New
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    The German train order has long been in the past. He personally observed late trains and electric trains painted as a fence. Along the railway, just a garbage dump, heaps of garbage are lying around. He stood, rubbed his eyes - is it really vaunted Germany ...
    1. Aviator_ 23 January 2020 22: 23 New
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      The Germans, it seems, are not the same. I once shared a little beach on vacation with a German family (grandfather with grandchildren). Grandfather is a typical German, fat, neat and punctual. Grandchildren - gouging, throwing tangerine skins, littering. Preschoolers.
  32. Ham
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    if I understood everything correctly there they simply sell out what’s left ... then for what else you can take some money
  33. Terenin 23 January 2020 21: 50 New
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    Who knows what? request
    German railway operator Deutsche Bahn, which does not plan to take control of the Ukrainian Railways, but will only hold consultations ...

    He, clearly, "Ukrainian white" am

    Goncharuk emphasized that German experts will work ...
  34. Pavel57 23 January 2020 21: 55 New
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    What was remembered by the plow with which the Germans, leaving the USSR, pulled out sleepers.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov 23 January 2020 22: 02 New
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      Quote: Pavel57
      What was remembered by the plow with which the Germans, leaving the USSR, pulled out sleepers.

      They even shot empty barrels. It is a fact.
      1. Aviator_ 23 January 2020 22: 28 New
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        Not always in time. Sometimes they darted fast. Relatives in the Crimea have a couple of captured 20-liter fascist gas cans. Until now, the rubber in the cap is good.
    2. Aviator_ 23 January 2020 22: 25 New
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      The Destroyer Scorpio. The sleepers broke, the rails twisted, the embankment collapsed.
  35. Basarev 23 January 2020 22: 04 New
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    Chlamyna is so pathetic that even with its best pieces the West is squeamish.
  36. trahterist 23 January 2020 22: 05 New
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    Yeah...
    If they don’t have brains, you won’t add a spoon anymore.
    All independent and independent laughing
  37. ANB
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    Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
    It seems that Bandera didn’t bring "order" ...

    How will he come if the horses moved long ago? There is no order. :)
  38. LeonidL 23 January 2020 22: 38 New
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    It’s easier to look at life, panov! Nimtsi Nehai pokeruyte ten rokiv, manage to use, put the nove ... and after ten ukrain ukra use use to take away ... I’m going to break up again and after ten more rookiv will call the nemtsy with a monkey. Tse and e velika sovereign wisdom!
  39. 30143 23 January 2020 22: 52 New
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    Deutsche Bahn, really put things in order. Unfortunately, after the suicide, the Ukrzaliznytsia did not even remember, degraded.
  40. Baloo 23 January 2020 23: 14 New
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    Quote: Kastorkin
    And I remember Russia too .. EBN drunk "But the hell knows where the money went 3 billion .." .. Remember?

    Remember. he said that only 800 lyamas reached, we will sort it out. Well, as always, Berezovsky drew a line: Chubais was to blame. True, the banker of the Lyon bank through which the operation was conducted. at first he got nervous, then suddenly, in a strange way, he burned down in the basement of his own house with armored glass, and even with the presence of security. Then this scarf, which Berezovsky somehow put on so badly ...
  41. CommanderDIVA 23 January 2020 23: 30 New
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    Ukraine like American general electric locomotives purchased
  42. Nikolaevich I 24 January 2020 00: 37 New
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    Deutsche Bahn, the German national railway operator, said it had no plans to take over the Ukrainian Railways, but would only conduct consultations through its own consulting company. Yeah! Here's how it goes ... "Pass on my favorite song with the words: I took it off resolutely, but he didn’t ask!"
  43. Picus 24 January 2020 03: 24 New
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    Well, I don’t know ...
    From experience (of those that I have repeatedly used from the EU - rating: Spain-Italy-Germany (and often used only these) ...
  44. Tarasios 24 January 2020 04: 56 New
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    Yeah, but how cool it is just recently from all the Maidans and screens of the country that the proud “Rummaged, stranger, here’s gospodar - Ukrainian!” rushed ...
  45. aszzz888 24 January 2020 05: 46 New
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    Goncharuk promised "German operational efficiency and zero tolerance for corruptionand".
    D, b !!! And he taught in Davos to correctly sing about unnecessary (I won’t repeat the words - it makes me sick!)
  46. Alexander X 24 January 2020 09: 51 New
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    Money laundering: transfer of unmeasured money for some kind of "consultation" to a consulting firm. And that already in any way returns a small fraction to certain individuals. Yes, at least, as a fee for the work of their "experts" ... The old stupid scheme caved in ... By virtue of his labor activity, he saw this many times.
  47. Bshkaus 24 January 2020 13: 21 New
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    By the way, the railway theme is very interesting, it’s only a pity that among the readers of VO there are most likely no lovers and professionals, although it would be interesting to get to know the collectors and railway modelers, whom I am.))))
    If we discard emotions and Urya-Patriotism, the following serious picture emerges:
    After the collapse of the USSR and, as a result, the separation of a single railway network, Russian Railways and UZ went their own way.
    As for the Russian Railways, everything is clear to everyone, it’s enough to stand on the platform of the Leningradsky railway station, Er-200 was replaced by Sapsan, double-decker cars, “Swallows” and Tver’s new model with the occasional “ammendorfs” familiar from childhood and reserved seats CMV. The staff approach has also changed.
    In Ukraine, these years was stagnation, after the 14th year, the Lugansk diesel locomotive plant actually ceased to exist.
    Now railway transportation in Ukraine are divided into:
    1-freight
    2 suburban
    3-regional day express trains.
    4 night fast trains.
    5-international communication is a separate topic with RIC model cars.
    I did not come across freight transportation, the question there is purely logistics, railcars are the last thing.
    In the suburbs they have a full F ... but like in a museum.
    But on the regional there is significant progress.
    They focus on daytime express trains, for these tasks they have developed not bad wagons and high-speed trains (their own Tarpan), purchased foreign trains such as swallows, but Hyundai, try to reduce travel time, but the quality of the canvas does not allow “to scatter” "
    The network of regional express trains is duplicated by “night shvidky”, the schedule of such trains throughout Ukraine is designed in such a way that trains leave late in the evening, arrive early in the morning, in principle, conveniently.
    Cars in the lottery, either the latest or oldest)))
    The price is really cheap, NE Kiev-Lviv for two as well as a reserved seat Moscow-Petrozavodsk.
    So, on the scale of Ukraine, the German system is really closer to them; they do not have trains running for several days. So on their part it looks logical, the question is whether they will be financially pulled.
    They are still randomly purchasing locomotives in the United States because Lugansk "everything", and electric locomotives after the Kyrgyz Republic in the next 5-10 years will still need to be changed for something.
    Like it or not, UZ really require a radical reform based on an already established principle, and the Russian model does not suit them simply because of other distances and tasks.
    Personally, I am watching with great interest how two completely different Russian Railways and UZ are formed from two equivalent parts of the former SZD.
    And the Russian experience with them will have a right to exist only if Ukraine really becomes part of the Russian Federation, which would not happen anyway, as many would not like: /
  48. ltc22A 24 January 2020 14: 55 New
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    It is time to transfer Ukraine under external control
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    Do the Germans, after meeting with the current Ukrainian order, stand up for their hair?
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    everything is simple, there will be a new staff soon