Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state. This was stated by Prime Minister of Ukraine Aleksey Goncharuk.

Speaking at the International Economic Forum in Davos, Goncharuk said that Ukrzaliznytsia would be transferred to the management of Germany’s largest railway operator Deutsche Bahn for ten years. He recorded on his Telegram page the signing of a memorandum of cooperation between the Ukrainian Ministry of Infrastructure and Deutsche Bahn.

Goncharuk promised "German operational efficiency and zero tolerance for corruption." At the same time, he claims that it is only about the management of "Ukrzaliznitsa", but not the sale of state property.

Goncharuk emphasized that German specialists will work on reforming the management mechanisms of the enterprise. Earlier, the Ukrainian prime minister said that the railway infrastructure of Ukraine was almost completely destroyed.

In turn, the German national railway operator Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways, but will only conduct consultations through its own consulting company. According to the Deutsche Bahn press service, this is what the signed memorandum says, not external management.

DB Engineering & Consulting - a consulting company within Deutsche Bahn that works on projects in the fields of infrastructure, mobility and transport - will advise and support Ukrzaliznytsia in business and technical matters

- said in a statement.

Comments

[Viktor Sergeev]

He also promised German prices and his stuffed pocket. The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.

[The popuas]

They give it where they take it ... But also German efficiency, not like a long harness. I feel the drawbacks grab.

[krot]

In turn, the German national railway operator Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways, but will only conduct consultations through its own consulting company. According to the Deutsche Bahn press service, this is what the signed memorandum says, not external management.

The Sumerians, as always, distorted everything.

[major147]

Quote: krot

The Sumerians, as always, distorted everything.

How many "Varangians" came to power since the time of the Maidan! And where are they all? Decent people who saw this "show of transvestites" fled, fearing to stain their reputation, and the grabbers grabbed .... and also fled from this pierced "under-titanic"! Now there is an industry that has not completely died out, which they will try to use as bait for Euro-suckers.

[Shurik70]

our land is great and plentiful and there is no order in it, come to reign and rule us

I used to be sure that the story with the called Vikings was invented by foreigners.
The then Kievites could not say so.
And now I doubt it ...

[alexmach]

The then Kievans could not say so

Kievans?

[Shurik70]

Quote: alexmach

The then Kievans could not say so

Kievans?

So it was in Kiev and called.
Most of the settlements didn’t care who collected the tribute from them. They would be better off without these pickers. And it happened and they killed tribute collectors.
It was in Kiev, according to legend, that the Vikings reigned, they were called there

[ANB]

They called, I remember, with this text of Rurik to Staraya Ladoga. But in Kiev, too, the Vikings reigned, until Oleg pushed them. Also Varangian.
This is all according to the textbooks, how exactly everything has not yet been clarified.

[alexmach]

So it was in Kiev and called.

The time has come for wonderful stories.

No matter how much you know so much about the subject, you can even have an opinion about it?

Rurik (d. 879) - according to the ancient Russian annalistic tradition the Varangian, Novgorod prince and ancestor

[Shurik70]

If we climbed into Wikipedia, we look further into legends.
Rurik, like a prince of Novgorod, presumably of Varangian origin, is considered the founder of Ancient (also known as Kiev) Rus. And the capital of Kievan Rus is Kiev.
Rurik ruled in Novgorod, and gave his associates Askold and Diru to Kiev. After the death of Rurik, his cousin Oleg, who became the guardian of the son of Rurik, captured Kiev by deception. It was Oleg who made Kiev the capital.

In general, now you know the real truth. As there was. Different annals contradict each other.

[alexmach]

AND? where does it follow that the Kievans called him and not the Novgorodians? (In the Tale, it is clearly written who called .. directly named.)

[cost]

Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

For some reason, immortal lines came to mind from this news:
Deutsche Bahn pushed a noisy crowd at night Ukrzaliznytsya steam locomotive
And only in the morning I guessed
That the engine was without wheels

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Popuas

They give it where they take it ... But also German efficiency, not like a long harness. I feel the drawbacks grab.

Well, the IMF brought Argentina to default. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...

[The popuas]

IMF is a tool! What side are the Germans here?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Popuas

IMF is a tool! What side are the Germans here?

Well, let's see. Efficiency you wrote. So let's see.

[The popuas]

And here the IMF ... please explain what you wanted to say ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Popuas

And here the IMF ... please explain what you wanted to say ...

I'll try. The IMF narrows it down with money. It seems like he wants to help. Here the "effective" Germans took over.
I compared only. Help from the IMF and the Germans. Let's see who turns out to be more effective.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, we'll see.

But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, we'll see.

But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.

These are the problems of the Germans.

[Blue fox]

Quote: Piramidon

But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there

So the collapse will remain, and the Germans will only indicate what needs to be done, such as a complete renewal of the rolling stock, replacement of the track’s upper structure and the introduction of the latest automation, they will receive hundreds of thousands of miles for such a consultation. :) As a result, Ukraine will pay for beautiful reports with money that could go for a real repair of something. I suspect that one of the recommendations will be the need to insure the railway against technological disasters in some same Deutsche Bank :)))) for another hundred thousand miles :)

[Fikys]

Quote: Blue Fox

I suspect that one of the recommendations will be the need to insure the railway against technological disasters in some same Deutsche Bank :)))) for another hundred thousand miles :)

And this will be the only recommendation implemented!

[Baloo]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, we'll see.

But do Germans need this hemorrhoids? Everything is in collapse there.

And what, in Ukraine, not all the rails have been handed over for scrap?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Balu

And what, in Ukraine, not all the rails have been handed over for scrap?

Sleepers still remain

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Piramidon

Spacious

"It's all over, the sound of the wheels stopped,
The sleepers are over, there are no rails "....
V. Vysotsky

[16329]

This is just consulting, they will be paid, and they will Study, write reports and offer solutions in the form of presentations, descriptions, etc.
The Germans love it
No responsibility whatsoever

[16329]

Why is everyone still confident in some kind of German efficiency, there is no word for it at all, German companies have long been jealous of Japanese, and now many Chinese companies.
Everything is done for a very long time, wild bureaucracy and irresponsibility, the quality is mediocre
Here everyone lives with some kind of memories from the 70s of the 20th century
And DB in general is constantly criticized and schedule failures have long been normal

[Kastorkin]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, the IMF brought Argentina to default. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...

And Russia is remembered too .. FUCK drunk "And the devil knows where the money went to 3 billion .." .. Remember?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Kastorkin

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, the IMF brought Argentina to default. I'm talking about "efficiency" ...

And Russia is remembered too .. FUCK drunk "And the devil knows where the money went .." .. Remember?

Well, of course. For the rest of my life, as they say. People with "bright" faces.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, the IMF then defaulted to the IMF.

If only Argentina ...

[210ox]

"Germans" from Khokhlostan will drive up. That's all efficiency.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Popuas

But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing

Efficiency is where something works. : Railways are the "circulatory system" of the economy. What can you say you can carry on the Ukrainian railways if the industry is collapsed and the economy is in ruins? Moreover, with the prices of Ukrzaliznytsia, it is much cheaper to transport goods by road. Many still operating enterprises in Ukraine are trying to do so. The exceptions are mainly metallurgical plants, there is nothing without hardware, but they have nowhere to go. I have a railway at my side. Previously, trains rattled every five minutes (mainly to the Crimea), now twice a day, to Kiev and Lvov. Well, more suburban trains. About freight trains, I generally keep quiet, once in the "five years". So, within the local branch of the road, it is not necessary to manage "two trains and three electric trains" much. The situation is the same throughout Ukraine.

Give where they take ..

A moot point, if given, why not take it. And they give and take where it is sewn into the economic system and laws do not work.

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

What can you say you can carry on Ukrainian railways

They have not sold everything there yet. Here is what is left and will be taken to the "market"

[4ekist]

For example, chernozem right on the rails.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Popuas

But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing.

Only now that the Germans will put things in order for free, they also know the saying "Why did God send us beggars."

[lucul]

they also know the saying "Why did God send us beggars?"

Something I also did not hear such a saying)))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lucul

Something I also did not hear such a saying)))

So this is a Russian proverb.

[Starover_Z]

Ukraine intends to transfer the "Ukrainian Railways" ("Ukrzaliznytsia") under the external control of a foreign state.

They survived ... If there is such a long-term enterprise, and even in such a region, consider it at the crossroads of the Euro-Turkish-sea roads and put under someone else's control - it's like at home, until no one returns, put a noose around your neck for penny debts to a neighbor!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Popuas

But also German efficiency, not like long harnessing.

Oh yes ... Willy Brandt Berlin-Brandenburg Airport is an example of this.

[figwam]

Ukraine intends to transfer the "Ukrainian Railways" ("Ukrzaliznytsia") under the external control of a foreign state.

Once again, the insolvency and artificiality of this state is confirmed.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: figvam

Ukraine intends to transfer the "Ukrainian Railways" ("Ukrzaliznytsia") under the external control of a foreign state.

Once again, the artificiality of this state is confirmed.

It seems that Bandera will come, and the "order" has not been brought in ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

It seems that Bandera will come, but "order" has not been brought in

Hope for the bandora, but don’t be a bad guy yourself. And uncle will not work for them.

[SRC P-15]

Kiev announced the transfer of Ukrzaliznytsia to the external management of Deutsche Bahn

That lips rolled out! Now they will also change your European track!

[Evil543]

Deutezaliznitsa, state operator for the export of black soil, about how.

[Starover_Z]

[quote] Ukraine intends to transfer the "Ukrainian Railways" ("Ukrzaliznytsia") under the external control of a foreign state. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Oleksiy Honcharuk. [/ Quote]
[/ quote] Shaw, already u, have played enough t?
N-th number of years back "Ukrzaliznytsia" switched to Ukrainian in some programs, AND SHO ?! CFM Moldova could not cope with trains on the outskirts! But his own! Like Yes ?!

[Brturin]

The same Honcharuk in October - “The infrastructure that we inherited from the Soviet Union was almost destroyed. It was constantly exhausted by corrupt officials, stupid managers and leaders ... We have 90% depleted Ukrzaliznytsia. That is, the railway that you see now, it is indeed nearly destroyed. " Good advertisement for a foreign investor ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Starover_Z

Ukraine intends to transfer the Ukrainian Railways (Ukrzaliznytsia) under external control to a foreign state. This was stated by Prime Minister of Ukraine Aleksey Goncharuk.Shaw, already u, have played enough t?

Well, not that we have played enough, but the ending is close. At first they placed all the nenka under external control, but somehow it did not work out with Ukrzaliznytsia. But now everything, and its two-track was attached. Soon, these "slave-owners" will haughtily watch how American and German "guest workers" will rule Ukraine in sweat and soap, and they will deduct babos from them, and they will be fat ists and movoy talk about the meaning of their Maidan speech - "Pom, yatai alien, here lord Ukrainian ".

[LiSiCyn]

Dmitriy ..... I remember))
There are two possible options ...
1) The Germans come in to assess the situation, assets and in order to earn money (if the game is not a game, it’s not worth the while).
2) "Nebrotya" think to shove the railway and grab for the last. But they will sooner pay the Germans for their services (putting some in their pockets) and remain in the same position, face down.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Dmitry ..... I remember))

Greetings Stas See see )))

Quote: LiSiCyn

2) "Nebrotya" think to shove the railway and grab for the last. But they will sooner pay the Germans for their services (putting some in their pockets) and remain in the same position, face down.

This is the most likely scenario for further developments

[Thrifty]

All ukroina under external control of the usa! They will lower three skins from the Germans for their property! Although the Germans themselves are not eager to fit into this chaos, they do not need an extra headache. ..

[Svetlana]

They give, but not from "black", but from white. "What thread is the fee for lectures or there" for help in ... "

[Svetlana]

Cashboxes meant. Not from the black box office

[maidan.izrailovich]

The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.

This is not about who bought whom.
What is happening in the neighboring territory proves once again that this territory without Russia (and Russians) cannot be an independent state.

[Vend]

Well, the soul rushed to paradise logically, the next step is the statement that the Ukrainians cannot rule the country themselves, we need external management and division of the country.

[den3080]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

He also promised German prices and his stuffed pocket. The Germans also give bribes and apparently Goncharuk bought.

Deutsche Ban disappeared :))

404 self-gunners for a cannon shot can not be allowed to normal, working structures and mechanisms.
everything will fall apart.
They would be in NATO and the European Union :)) 2-3 years and krants to the above structures.

[Reserve buildbat]

Some would be happy to sell, but others are not eager to buy unprofitable trash.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

"Independent" ... It's just terrible.

[Vasyan1971]

In turn, the national German operator of railway transportation Deutsche Bahn said that it does not plan to take over the management of the "Ukrainian Railways"

Tough meeting ukrohotelok with Euroreality.
Though affectionate, though languid, but under Germanic ordnung to climb ...

[major147]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Tough meeting ukrohotelok with Euroreality.

[Sky strike fighter]

The sale is gaining momentum. First they forced people (zarobitchans) to work abroad, that is, they sold the country's human resources, then they sold the law on the sale of land to foreigners, now the turn has reached the railway. No wonder the West sponsored the Maidan.
A profitable business was the result, the main thing is to find traitors at the top of the government and remove those who disagree with the sale of the country.

[AU Ivanov.]

Outside management is not a sale.

[eagle owl]

under the external control of Deutsche Bahn

Banned)

[Prisoner]

Such self-serving - self-serving. Generally not slaves and stupid patriots.

[Kleber]

The Germans not in vain refused. There, such financial injections are needed to modernize the designs and mechanisms of the right of way, as well as to replace the rolling stock, which even Deutsche Bahn will not master. But the consultation for Ukrainian money is that they are forever.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kleber

There, such financial injections are needed to modernize the designs and mechanisms of the right of way, as well as to replace rolling stock

Simply say, "It's high time to change everything there."

[knn54]

"Motr Sich" - to the Chinese, "Ukrzaliznytsia" - to the Germans. What's next?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

What's next?

Land of Monsante.

[maidan.izrailovich]

.What's next?

Russian city Kiev Russia.

[rocket757]

pi pi pi kukuevskaya country, piggy is sintered!
By the way, it's cool, forcibly their Nemtsy did not shmogli, our people stood up, now the Germans will get them for the cookies .... And sho, the people "beads", and the Panamas waffles in chocolate !!!

[paul3390]

Yes, they would have appointed an open Gauleiter already - there would have been less fuss. There are some presidents, glad ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

Why? Consultants are the most free profession, they generally are not responsible for anything, they only get money. And if the stone flower did not come out, then you can always say that the performers did not follow their recommendations correctly.

[carstorm 11]

not at all like that. they risk reputation in the first place, and that’s all they have from their main assets. any errors even if the perpetrator is to blame cannot be copied. everyone will know about it. in the consulting market, such numbers do not work. that's what they, judging by the statement, can change to help so immediately and they say, in business and technical matters. most likely they will make a special center and equip it will help that a normal company should help. but I doubt whether these clowns will help. all this will be useless without updating the entire fleet, even if their locomotives are scary to look at. but where did they get the money for this is the question of the questions)

[AU Ivanov.]

They still have cargo VL-8s, an electric locomotive of the early 50s. They were written off from us back in the 90s.

[Sofa expert]

C'mon ... We still have vl80 of the same years of release, and nothing.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

you can always say that the performers did not follow their recommendations correctly

Chickens rested, sorry, but I still have so many ideas.

[salad]

I see this name all day all the day and I can’t pronounce it ,,,, yeah the Germans offered advice and the ukshumers already jump into the dance)))) redeem urrraaaaaa))) we will live))))))))

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: salat

I see this name all day in the news and can’t pronounce it,

I really can’t read it. Uk ... Ukrz ... Ukraz ... Well, nafig, in short.

[Kerensky]

We also had ... It has long been true. A penny for a mile from the pond at first asked the bourgeoisie.
Will the company only provide consultations on a paid basis? Yes, any boss will bark: "Do as the Hans said! Currency was bought for them!" And that's it ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kerensky

We also had ... It has long been true. A penny for a mile from the pond at first asked the bourgeoisie.

The Germans will deliver a German bacon.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Hitler Deutsche Bahn Kaput!

[Kastorkin]

The outskirts intend to transfer the "Ukrainian Railways" ("Ukrzaliznytsia") under the external control of a foreign state.

Well, soon, as before, guest workers in freight cars to Germany, etc. begin to send to work and trains with black soil, so that there is someone to unload and distribute gut gut in the fields .. Cheap and effective! But tse Europe ..

[ak1978]

Ost plan in action

[God save the king]

Here it is, independence under the European boot.
Soon, Ukrainians will envy the Russians, you just have to wait!

[Prisoner]

You might think they are not envious. They have passed this envy from generation to generation.

[nm76]

Guys, I heard that this year we will put up for sale what we did not manage to privatize in the 90s ...
How is it with the Russian Railways, will they be sold in whole or in parts (rails, stations, rolling stock, depot, departmental rest houses, administrative buildings, vocational schools, etc.)?

[KCA]

Papers will be sold, shares are called, or even without paper at all, the forest must be protected, in the electronic registry of the place

[Prisoner]

Where is it, clown?

[nm76]

We have clowns - this is the same place where you have military-patriotic marginals ... We go under one god.

[Andrea]

Easily and thoughtlessly put the circulatory system of the country into the wrong hands. You can say, Ukraine as a state ended.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Andrea

You can say, Ukraine as a state ended.

The state of Ukraine ended without starting. Nothing is built, nothing is done. On the contrary, everything is eaten up, sold, destroyed, the population is declining, the territories are losing, plus they have gained a civil war. How can this be called a state?

[Ezekiel]

Quote: orionvitt

Nothing is built, nothing is done.
On the contrary, everything is eaten up, sold and destroyed,
Population is declining, territories are losing,
Plus a civil war has been made.
How can this be called a state?

Yes, this is a blank verse! You may well put to music: "Everything is eaten up and destroyed, the Territory is shrinking, Money has been drunk, will not return .."
Reminds imperishable: "We will never be brothers, Truselya lace drunk ..."
You need to put it on the music somehow!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Ezekiel

You need to put it on the music somehow!

God did not equate with such a talent. Just pent.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: nm76

Guys, I heard that this year we will put up for sale what we did not manage to privatize in the 90s ...
How is it with the Russian Railways, will they be sold in whole or in parts (rails, stations, rolling stock, depot, departmental rest houses, administrative buildings, vocational schools, etc.)?

Who do you have?

[nm76]

The forecast plan for privatizing federal property and the main directions of privatizing federal property for 2020–2022 have been approved.

Order of December 31, 2019 No. 3260-p. The forecast privatization plan for federal property provides for the privatization of shares of 2020 joint-stock companies, 2022 federal state unitary enterprises, the Russian Federation’s participation in 186 limited liability companies, more than one thousand objects of other property of the state treasury in 86–13.

[orionvitt]

Quote: nm76

Order of December 31, 2019 No. 3260-p.

If you are writing according to the manual, then at least check out the original source. This document clearly states, "except for enterprises of strategic importance," to which the railway belongs.

[nm76]

This year we haven’t even given us new manuals, by the way, I don’t have last year’s. Could you share your training manual, otherwise it seems to me that sometimes I retreat from the general line.

[evgen1221]

The big question is, do the Germans themselves need to rake these stables?

[210ox]

Who told you that they will rake? With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool.

[cat Rusich]

There is a sense to rake the "Augean stables" - horse manure fertilizer costs $, rake the "stables" into your "harmanets" (purse in Russian). 10 years just to advise "Ukrzaliznytsia "what, where and at what price to buy, repair ... get for" advice "$ - receive kickbacks from" grateful contractors ". As an example, you can recall the purchase of locomotives for $ BILLION" by Ukrzaliznytsia "at" General Electric ".

[Incvizitor]

The consultations are unlikely to involve clearing this "wild field".

[Fat]

Thank. I understand .... Now on the train Moscow Kiev not a eh.

[wow]

Poor poor Germans !!! They have no idea who they are contacting!

[Barmaleyka]

Ukrzaliznytsia under the external management of Deutsche Bahn

[cat Rusich]

Crimea OUR (Russia). Correct the picture ...

[monster]

Yes, Bandera, yes! Do not stop! The faster you all, finally, will shine, the sooner the South-East of Ukraine will send your pigrein with a pig, and a pig! Will send, and will become part of Russia.

[Fishery]

Yes, they have already refuted, they will just advise

[fighter angel]

Tonya.
First, DEFINE! and not "refuted".
Secondly - Yes, yes, they will only "advise". Keep your pockets wider! Yeah, right now!
Remove the pasta from your ears and finally throw away your pink glasses! Everything went under the hammer in your country, and you should not pretend to hope for something good.

[Fishery]

in fact, this cannot but please me)))) let them probably already sell everything)

[fighter angel]

Something I do not understand you.
Is it sarcasm, or are you really happy that foreigners are taking away your country?

[Fishery]

sincerely) I’m also waiting for the land to be sold, it’s better to have a Frenchman, Turk, German in the neighbors than local goons

[fighter angel]

Do you directly think that a respectable burgher will tumble down towards you? He will bring a bunch of dough, his girls, share it with you and here you will "panic", right ?!
But the reality may be somewhat different.
Do you think that all wealthy Europeans with the Turks, in addition, are sleeping and seeing how
would they buy land in Ukraine?
And now they are just going to rush to you with the whole crowd?
No matter how, dear!
They don’t need you for hell, even with the earth, even without the earth!
Although no, of course we need to clean the toilets and clean them.
For a penny wage and assholes.
And the garnishes of the woman are in tolerance houses.

But another option is possible.
Don't you think that there will be a ghetto camp for refugees from Africa next door? Or, for example, they will make a "household waste landfill", and it would be good if only "household".
Another option is that the chemical production banned in Europe will be taken and delivered next door to you.

[Fishery]

and next to household and not very waste)) I have already lived in the Urals for 20 years, live there yourself)

[fighter angel]

Tonya.
But by and large, if you really think so:
"... sincerely) I'm also waiting for the land to be sold, it's better to have a Frenchman, a Turk, a German in your neighbors than local goons ..."
then I congratulate you, you are degrading, and alas, you deserve what they are doing to you now and will continue to do so!

[Fishery]

Well, this is your opinion,))) in my reality, we are at different levels of understanding) I think the material component) and while you proudly confront the world and the evil imperialists in your head, someone is working and feeling great, so I’m right now Now, moreover, to varying degrees of freedom, in terms of taking here and moving to evil Europeans and treacherous Turks, living for your own pleasure and not waiting for a pension from the state, and finally I sincerely think and already have an Italian in my neighbors who makes cheese and is calm lives for itself) and God forbid them out in most of the neighboring people who think like you.

[fighter angel]

Your zhupan hohlyaestvo nevertheless got out: knowing absolutely nothing about your opponent, in this case, about me, you are already starting to boast of your "material component", the fact that you allegedly somehow "panic" somewhere, you have a neighbor. Italian. Don't you think that your opponent can be much higher than you in terms of social status and financial position? Think about this before writing about how you "pan" in Uzin ...
Well, listening / reading all your statements here on VO, you begin to understand that in vain the media are talking about the atrocities of the Ukrainian Nazis. Judging by your "life position", and especially about your sincere desire to sell the land as soon as possible, these "ponderous people" of yours are clearly not working on it ...

[Fishery]

they’re not finalizing) this is a fact, like the scrap collectors) both fractions are very limited) but they have extremely cunning leaders)

[fighter angel]

Well, about the cunning, I do not know, here you know better.
Apparently, you have the majority there, and you are one of these same ...

[Fishery]

fortunately not the majority) I just know how people squeeze out the rented land and what they do on a private land, but it's no longer interesting to argue, good luck.

[320423]

All you need to know about German railway operators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGjUAcV6cg

[Alexey from Perm]

Preparing for the German occupation, if only not for Putin and Russia))

[Fishery]

absolutely right)

[Moskovit]

The German train order has long been in the past. He personally observed late trains and electric trains painted as a fence. Along the railway, just a garbage dump, heaps of garbage are lying around. He stood, rubbed his eyes - is it really vaunted Germany ...

[Aviator_]

The Germans, it seems, are not the same. I once shared a little beach on vacation with a German family (grandfather with grandchildren). Grandfather is a typical German, fat, neat and punctual. Grandchildren - gouging, throwing tangerine skins, littering. Preschoolers.

[Ham]

if I understood everything correctly there they simply sell out what’s left ... then for what else you can take some money

[Terenin]

Who knows what?

German railway operator Deutsche Bahn, which does not plan to take over the management of Ukrainian Railways, but will only conduct consultations ...

To him, clearly, "Ukrainian in white"

Goncharuk emphasized that German experts will work ...

[Pavel57]

What was remembered by the plow with which the Germans, leaving the USSR, pulled out sleepers.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Pavel57

What was remembered by the plow with which the Germans, leaving the USSR, pulled out sleepers.

They even shot empty barrels. It is a fact.

[Aviator_]

Not always in time. Sometimes they darted fast. Relatives in the Crimea have a couple of captured 20-liter fascist gas cans. Until now, the rubber in the cap is good.

[Aviator_]

The Scorpion Destroyer. The sleepers broke, the rails twisted, the embankment collapsed.

[Basarev]

Chlamyna is so pathetic that even with its best pieces the West is squeamish.

[trahterist]

Yeah...
If they don’t have brains, you won’t add a spoon anymore.
All independent and independent

[ANB]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

It seems that Bandera will come, and the "order" has not been brought in ...

How will he come if the horses moved long ago? There is no order. :)

[LeonidL]

It’s easier to look at life, panov! Nimtsi Nehai pokeruyte ten rokiv, manage to use, put the nove ... and after ten ukrain ukra use use to take away ... I’m going to break up again and after ten more rookiv will call the nemtsy with a monkey. Tse and e velika sovereign wisdom!

[30143]

Deutsche Bahn, really put things in order. Unfortunately, after the suicide, the Ukrzaliznytsia did not even remember, degraded.

[Baloo]

Quote: Kastorkin

And Russia is remembered too .. FUCK drunk "And the devil knows where the money went to 3 billion .." .. Remember?

Remember. he said that only 800 lyamas reached, we will sort it out. Well, as always, Berezovsky drew a line: Chubais was to blame. True, the banker of the Lyon bank through which the operation was conducted. at first he got nervous, then suddenly, in a strange way, he burned down in the basement of his own house with armored glass, and even with the presence of security. Then this scarf, which Berezovsky somehow put on so badly ...

[CommanderDIVA]

Ukraine like American general electric locomotives purchased

[Nikolaevich I]

Deutsche Bahn, the national German rail operator, said it had no plans to take over Ukrainian Railways, but would only consult through its own consulting company. Ahaaa! Here's how it turns out ... "Pass my favorite song with the words: I took it off resolutely, but he didn't ask!"

[picus]

Well, I don’t know ...
From experience (of those that I have repeatedly used from the EU - rating: Spain-Italy-Germany (and often used only these) ...

[Tarasios]

Yeah, but how cool just recently from all the Maidans and screens of the country came the proud "Pam'yatay, stranger, here is the Lord - Ukrainian!" ...

[aszzz888]

Honcharuk pledged "German operational efficiency and zero tolerance for corruptionand".

D, b !!! And he taught in Davos to correctly sing about unnecessary (I won’t repeat the words - it makes me sick!)

[Alexander X]

Laundering the dough: transferring unmeasured money for some kind of "consultation" to a consulting firm. And that already in any way returns a small fraction to certain persons. Yes, at least, as a fee for their work as "experts" ... The old stupid scheme was discarded ... Due to my work activity I saw this many times.

[Bshkaus]

By the way, the railway theme is very interesting, it’s only a pity that among the readers of VO there are most likely no lovers and professionals, although it would be interesting to get to know the collectors and railway modelers, whom I am.))))
If we discard emotions and "Urya-patriotism", then the following serious picture emerges:
After the collapse of the USSR and, as a result, the separation of a single railway network, Russian Railways and UZ went their own way.
As for the Russian Railways, everything is clear to everyone, it is enough to stand on the platform of the Leningradsky railway station, the Er-200 was replaced by a Sapsan, double-deck cars, "Swallows" And Tversky cars of a new type with ammendorfs and reserved seats CMVs, which are rarely seen since childhood. The approach of the staff has also changed.
In Ukraine, these years was stagnation, after the 14th year, the Lugansk diesel locomotive plant actually ceased to exist.
Now railway transportation in Ukraine are divided into:
1-freight
2 suburban
3-regional day express trains.
4 night fast trains.
5-international communication is a separate topic with RIC model cars.
I did not come across freight transportation, the question there is purely logistics, railcars are the last thing.
In the suburbs they have a full F ... but like in a museum.
But on the regional there is significant progress.
They focus on daytime express trains, for these tasks they have developed not bad cars and high-speed trains (their own "Tarpan"), purchased foreign trains such as swallows, but "Hyundai", they try to reduce travel time, but the quality of the canvas does not allow ".
The network of regional express trains duplicates "Nichny Shvidkyy", the schedule of such trains throughout Ukraine is built in such a way that trains leave late in the evening, arrive early in the morning, in principle it is convenient.
Cars in the lottery, either the latest or oldest)))
The price is really cheap, NE Kiev-Lviv for two as well as a reserved seat Moscow-Petrozavodsk.
So, on the scale of Ukraine, the German system is really closer to them; they do not have trains running for several days. So on their part it looks logical, the question is whether they will be financially pulled.
They are still chaotically buying locomotives in the United States. Luhansk "everyone", and the electric locomotives after the Kyrgyz Republic in the next 5-10 years will still need to be changed for something.
Like it or not, UZ really require a radical reform based on an already established principle, and the Russian model does not suit them simply because of other distances and tasks.
Personally, I am watching with great interest how two completely different Russian Railways and UZ are formed from two equivalent parts of the former SZD.
And the Russian experience with them will have a right to exist only if Ukraine really becomes part of the Russian Federation, which would not happen anyway, as many would not like: /

[ltc22A]

It is time to transfer Ukraine under external control

[NF68]

Do the Germans, after meeting with the current Ukrainian order, stand up for their hair?

[lvov_aleksey]

everything is simple, there will be a new staff soon