Pension reform. No man - no problem?


Comrade Stalin was right



Once again, I am convinced that Comrade Stalin is right in many matters. It becomes clear why the name of this far from unambiguous person is not forgotten among the people for many years, despite the massive ideological treatment of our brains - starting from childhood and ending with materials in the media today.

"No man - no problem." You cannot say more ingeniously. Briefly, like a shot from a pistol, and capacious, like a philosophical treatise. And most importantly, not just a common expression, but a guide to action for some categories of our citizens. And I'm not talking about crime bosses or street punks. I’m talking about respectable high-ranking officials with leverage.

Today we will talk about the first results of the pension reform in Russia. The material is a continuation of the article. "Pension reform: we do not live in the USSR", which was published on January 13, 2020. We continue to consider the pros and cons of PR in a slightly different aspect.

An interview with the head of the FIU Anton Drozdov appeared in Rossiyskaya Gazeta, in which a very interesting figure was given. Right soul rejoices for our state. Finally learned to save folk money!

Hurrah! The Russian Pension Fund managed to significantly reduce state budget expenditures in just one year! It’s no secret that the PFR is chronically short of pension money. We will not talk about the reasons that led to this state of the Fund.

But the fact that 40% of the funds needed to pay these same pensions came to the FIU from the budget is worth mentioning. This Fund works very effectively for us. Like the Field of Miracles in the Land of Fools, where Pinocchio stubbornly carried his gold. Pinocchio is all of us, and the field ...

But that’s all! The Russian budget in 2019 lost 3,322 trillion on pensions. rubles. And this year plans to take only 3,243 trillion. rubles. Here it is, saving 3,8%! And then more. The next year, savings again, according to the law - 3,221 trillion. rubles. 2022 generally reduces costs to 3,197 trillion. rubles!

Do not think that the FIU learned to work with finances. What for? The government will give the missing money in any way. And a hundred million rubles back and forth for the state are mere pennies. As they say, sit a smoke and do not blow a mustache. But then where does such a saving come from?

Nothing in this world is changing. Including the relationship of man and the state. The savings were not achieved due to some ingenious financial transactions or an instant increase in tax revenues to the Fund. Savings achieved through our pockets. More precisely, our wallets.

It was not by chance that I started the material with the statement “father of all nations”. It was the principle formulated there that worked. According to the estimates of the "main pens", in 2019, 1 million 185 thousand people were to retire. A huge number of people who have reached the "age of survival."

But, in accordance with the reformed law, only 830 thousand people actually retired. Here it is, saving! Non-payment of earned pension to 355 thousand people! Handsomely? And then! What-what, but we have learned to "clean" someone else’s pocket. To steal from one part of the people that is no longer necessary for the state for the benefit of the same people - what is not a brilliant combination?

The main thing is now you can announce the next national project! About the increase, for example, scholarships to students or subsidies to zoos. It is possible to distribute free oranges to indigenous children of the Arctic. The main thing is that this event is well covered in the press.

But the most interesting is ahead. Such savings for some time will indeed reduce payments from the budget. This year it is planned to reduce the number of pensioners by 445 thousand people. In total, according to Drozdov, for two years we save 800 thousand Russians on pensions!

Lafa will end when the opportunity to postpone retirement ends. But there is a way to get into your pocket. If not for the grandmother ... more precisely, women of retirement age. They are tenacious. They do not want to die for the good of the state.

Saving on people


Today it sounds wild, but economists are talking about ... a reduction in the number of pensioners due to pension reform. Impossible? Let's try to figure it out.

According to the old system of retirement by 2024, according to analysts, the number of pensioners was to exceed 40 million people. This is considering that life expectancy in 2019, according to the Minister of Health Veronika Skvortsova, until January 15, 2020, increased for men to 68,5 years, for women to 78,5 years.

According to the new system, this amount is sharply reduced. Everything is simple. An “average” man will receive a pension of only 3,5 years, and an “average” woman will be 18,5 years old. In total, due to the reduction of male pensioners, we get, again according to experts, a reduction in the number of pensioners to 35 million people or a little less. "Savings" of more than 5 million people!

Looking for the future for children and grandchildren


You know, as one of the victims of the pension reform, it would be completely easy for me to survive the increase in the retirement age. But on one condition. If I understood that such a reform would really benefit the country, people, my children and grandchildren. Our mentality is probably like this: to sacrifice in the name of the future.

But the benefits of all this, I do not see. I don’t see today and I don’t see tomorrow. What will our salaries increase? What kind of carriages are these? Additional free working hands of new retirees, on the contrary, will lead to cheaper labor. So salaries will go down. Maybe the quality of life will improve? Due to what?

Working retirees, or rather, those who are able to work, will reduce income by the amount of the same unearned pension. Non-working people will live on a penny from the employment service or on a penny in the form of a salary for low-skilled work like the work of a concierge or janitor.

Will pensions rise? Read the previous material. There this point is affected. Those increases that will be held annually, inflation will successfully eat. For some reason, they stubbornly impose numbers without inflation, but everyone understands that 1000 yesterday and 1000 tomorrow are completely different thousands.

New government, show the character!


Interestingly, will the new government also stubbornly play the role of a “rhino” attacking the enemy, or will it still think about the future and begin to sort out the blockages after the Medvedev government?

The ability to admit one’s mistakes is not only a sign of the mind, but also a fortitude, a sign of character. Let's see if the new government has character.
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  1. rocket757 22 January 2020 13: 45 New
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    New government, show the character!

    You can’t swear, but in any other way.
    It remains to wait and see what other experiments will fall on our heads.
    1. Svarog 22 January 2020 13: 50 New
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      And I'm not talking about crime bosses or street punks. I’m talking about respectable high-ranking officials with leverage.

      So they are all from the 90s
      Interestingly, will the new government also stubbornly play the role of a “rhino” attacking the enemy, or will it still think about the future and begin to sort out the blockages after the Medvedev government?

      The new government will not change anything, more than once it has been announced. Perhaps and most likely it will be so, Mishutin will build a clearer work .. but that’s all, reflect on the citizens ’wallet with a minus sign ..
      1. Van 16 22 January 2020 14: 25 New
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        "so they are all from the 90s"
        Therefore, they turned the usual scammers into the nineties.
        1. Lexus 22 January 2020 14: 59 New
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          Pensioner to pensioner discord. For some "friends" and 5 million pounds (~ 400 million rubles) - a "trifle".


          The rest - rejoice that the last / coffins were not taken away ... So far ...
          1. Tatyana 22 January 2020 15: 39 New
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            Interestingly, will the new government also stubbornly play the role of a “rhino” attacking the enemy, or will it still think about the future and begin to sort out the blockages after the Medvedev government?

            In the project, Nabiulina is supposed in the future to completely abolish pensions for the people from the word "completely"! She has two hands for it.
            But she admits that this cannot be done now because of the possibility of a popular retirement riot! Since the people have not emotionally "digested" this pension confiscation!
            1. Lexus 22 January 2020 16: 09 New
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              Tatyana, hello!
              Obviously, it will be so.
              It remains for agencies of funeral services to adjust to the trend: "died at work - get a discount on burial." Really, not funny.
        2. Tatyana 22 January 2020 15: 23 New
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          The ability to admit one’s mistakes is not only a sign of the mind, but also a fortitude, a sign of character. Let's see if the new government has character.

          Who would doubt the character of the new liberal government of the Russian Federation and its fortitude over the people !!!

        3. Proxima 22 January 2020 15: 28 New
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          "No man - no problem." You can’t say more ingenious (from text)
          Stalin did not utter such words. stop This phrase was invented by the writer Rybakov in his next libelous novel and put it into Stalin's mouth. Then this phrase "went to the people." Then Rybakov was indignant that people had forgotten the real author of this phrase. Interesting thing, slandered a man and resents that a real writer of lies has been forgotten !! The perverse thinking of these liberoid scribblers! fool
          1. Victor N 22 January 2020 16: 12 New
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            And the writer of this article, too. He said about reducing budget expenditures on the PF, but filed it as a negative. But the budget cannot be used in retirement, it is needed to solve other problems, including important social ones, about which much is written about in VO. For the payment of pensions, a "joint system" has been created where not our deductions are accumulated, but the current deductions of workers are concentrated and simply redistributed. Transfers of funds from the state. the budget in the Pension Fund is forced, due to the fact that "citizens" do not deduct funds (as they do not pay to logs), but apply for pensions. But such dishonest behavior (Obscene!) No one wants to discuss. It's easier to blame everything only on officials ....
            1. Nyrobsky 22 January 2020 22: 25 New
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              Quote: Victor N
              For the payment of pensions, a "joint system" has been created where not our deductions are accumulated, but the current deductions of workers are concentrated and simply redistributed. Transfers of funds from the state. the budget in the Pension Fund is forced, due to the fact that "citizens" do not deduct funds (as they do not pay to logs), but apply for pensions. But such dishonest behavior (Obscene!) No one wants to discuss. It's easier to blame everything only on officials ....

              If officials had not experimented with pension savings, hanging out in state and not-so-great funds, then tens of billions of rubles would not have disappeared from the pension capsule, resulting in a hole that did not allow maintaining the same level of payments, under the same conditions as and before. In fact, this hole was shut up by the fact that hundreds of thousands of pensioners got a kick and made a rebound for five years. Well, that’s okay. The "initiative" officials guilty of this are neither named nor punished. Well, think, they were mistaken in the calculations! It is encouraging that the state could subsidize this hole due to excess profits received from the sale of oil above the price that was budgeted, at least until the amount that was missing in the pension fund was offset by tax deductions. Why is it "normal to" subsidize "the state with national taxes, and is it not normal to subsidize the people from the state with a surplus budget? The state treats its people as a stepson. It is good that at least they allowed to collect logs, and even that which you can take out on yourself, but let it rot in the logs. Russia, as the successor of the USSR, paid all international debts for itself and for all the former republics of the union, wrote off tens of billions of debt dollars to debtor countries, but does not pay its people on burned-out Soviet deposits, limiting itself to scanty payments. It is interpreted that France also intends to get a debt from Russia on government loan bonds issued under Tsar Nicholas II. Do you think we will pay back? Probably yes. It’s possible for the French, it’s not for their own.
              1. Victor N 23 January 2020 16: 54 New
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                Have you seen this theft from your mink? No, they could not. Then this slander is an occupation unworthy of man. Yes, and you do not have economic knowledge. Absolutely.
                1. Nyrobsky 23 January 2020 17: 03 New
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                  Quote: Victor N
                  Have you seen this theft from your mink? No, they could not. Then this slander is an occupation unworthy of man.

                  Or maybe you work hard and highlight the word "theft" in my commentary. There is the word "gone," which is not the same thing. These things just say that those bureaucrats who started games with retirement savings showed complete incompetence and did not bear any responsibility for this.
                  Quote: Victor N
                  Yes, and you do not have economic knowledge. Absolutely.
                  Actually, I do not pretend. Absolutely. There is simply an understanding that a solution to the lack of money in a pension fund could have several options, but the government went according to the worst-case scenario. And yet, yes, this is my opinion. If you have a different vision, it is just different and also has the right to be.
            2. businessv 23 January 2020 00: 13 New
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              Quote: Victor N
              But such dishonest behavior (Obscene!) No one wants to discuss. It's easier to blame everything only on officials ....

              To begin, let's discuss at least the purpose of a pension, this is a personal experience. Date of birth 02.01, was called to the PF half a year before the appointment (02.07.2018/02.07.2019/01.01.2020), to carry out “preliminary work” but due to a change in the retirement age, the data was taken, but asked to come again a year later (08.01.2020). I submitted an application, documents, they said we will send requests to places of work. I received a letter that the deadline for assigning a pension is 01.07.2019. He came for the appointed pension at the PF on 08.01.2020, was refused the appointment due to the fact that one of the organizations did not send information on the salary. Now everything is in the second round, but the fact is that the pension is accrued from the time the application was submitted, and this is not XNUMX, but XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, specific savings per person - half a year of non-payment of the pension due to him because the officials whom you protect, for half a year could not get the data from the archive! I’m sure that not one of me has such a situation, so we won’t even raise questions now whether the state should send state funds to the Pension Fund because there are also NPFs. in which there is a complete mess, and the government, which cannot decide in any way, where can one place the pension funds for their safety and profit from these funds lying in the fund.
              1. Victor N 23 January 2020 16: 59 New
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                I cannot discuss the appointment of a pension, I can only sympathize. Does everyone around you honestly pay in PF?
                1. businessv 23 January 2020 23: 13 New
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                  Quote: Victor N
                  Does everyone around you honestly pay in PF?

                  And my entourage gained experience and paid back even when I gained experience. At that time it was impossible not to pay. Now my children work, they pay honestly, they were specifically looking for such a job to receive salaries in white, so yes, my environment pays honestly. Yes, I didn’t say that there are no problems with payments to the PF, but it’s not a secret to anyone that looking at the PF buildings, the number of bureaucrats who in the majority simply receive salaries, you understand that money is spent not where they should go ! Read in the Free Press - there is an excellent article by Professor Katasonov V. with all the calculations, numbers and explanations.
      2. Madness 22 January 2020 16: 56 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        So they are all from the 90s

        But you’re right, Vladimir, in the 90s everything was on crime and those who came to power even as ordinary officials ..
        Putin doesn’t have one, let the famous slang “wet” and “filthy mouth” slip through .. his methods remain the same .. So, ordinary people don’t expect anything good, but Russia in world politics, of course it has a lot of weight now and the Army is rearming .. Only this pleases, but otherwise it’s completely hopeless .... hi
    2. Svarog 22 January 2020 13: 53 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      It remains to wait and see what other experiments will fall on our heads.

      They’ve been lying on our heads for 30 years .. nostalgia for the Brezhnev era ..
      1. rocket757 22 January 2020 13: 56 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        They’ve been lying on our heads for 30 years .. nostalgia for the Brezhnev era ..

        Well yes. "Stagnation," he was somehow calm, soft, lulling.
        1. Svarog 22 January 2020 13: 58 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Well yes. "Stagnation," he was somehow calm, soft, lulling.

          That "stagnation" is much better than today's "stability" hi
          1. solzh 22 January 2020 14: 20 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            Stagnation, "he was somehow calm, soft, lulling

            Quote: Svarog
            That "stagnation" is much better than today's "stability"

            But there are those who blame him for stagnation and blame our current problems. But I don’t understand how it turns out that we have been living for many years due to that “stagnation”?
            1. balunn 22 January 2020 14: 23 New
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              when there is nothing to boast about, they begin to recall either the past feats of their ancestors, or scold everything that was before them
              1. user 24 January 2020 10: 30 New
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                past feats of ancestors


                Of course, I apologize for interrupting your brilliant thoughts. I just ask you to pay attention to the lines written above, why the ancestors, on the contrary, it’s me and many participants of this forum who did what you write

                they begin to remember either the past feats of their ancestors, or scold everything that was before them


                We are still alive. Perhaps this is haunting you, and what you did was “so as not to scold everything that came before you.”

                When alive, your pre does not roll, well, unless you are going to join some sort of party.
          2. kjhg 22 January 2020 14: 24 New
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            This is what I want to pay attention to. Maternity capital is also paid through a pension fund. That is, a pension fund deficit of over 3 trillion. rubles is exaggerated. Of these, 453 billion rubles are payments on maternity capital. And starting this year, this amount is even higher.
            117 billion - this is for the maintenance of the pension fund itself, including the payment of bonuses to management, the purchase and provision of automobiles, apartments, the construction of huge buildings of the pension fund, corporate events, etc.
            188 billion - transfer of money from a pension fund to non-state pension funds. This money is not taken into account in income, but is indicated as PF expenses.
            Those. the real pension fund deficit was less than the indicated by almost 1 trillion. rubles. Sleight of hand and no fraud.
            Here is the table
          3. Observer2014 22 January 2020 17: 45 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: rocket757
            Well yes. "Stagnation," he was somehow calm, soft, lulling.

            That "stagnation" is much better than today's "stability" hi

            Not to be more exact. hi
    3. solzh 22 January 2020 14: 15 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      It remains to wait and see what other experiments will fall on our heads.

      Oh, I wish I had better somehow without these very experiments. His head and people feel sorry.
      1. rocket757 22 January 2020 14: 34 New
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        Quote: solzh
        Oh, I wish I had better somehow without these very experiments. His head and people feel sorry.

        our wishes, but to someone in the ears!
        Only these, they can’t hear anything except requirements ... but they completely fenced off from them.
        Although no, I forgot how, for some reason !!! Once a year with a gulkin beak of these requests, how would you like to listen ???
        1. Lexus 22 January 2020 15: 10 New
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          our wishes, but to someone in the ears!

          Wishes, wishes. Only conscience "there" will not return. And without it you should not expect good from “them”, it’s naive and stupid ...
          Victor hi
          1. rocket757 22 January 2020 15: 15 New
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            Alexey soldier
            The rich, almost everyone, had a “equivalent” replacement for a long time ... Babosiks replaced everything that is possible and that which would seem impossible!
    4. cloud catcher 22 January 2020 15: 20 New
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      The most important task, to increase life expectancy, has been completed, and for the shortest possible time.
      I can’t understand ... Why, and so abruptly? Ecology has radically improved (in the lower reaches of the rivers, clean water; in industrial areas - air), clinics have improved (after optimization and restructuring of medical facilities, especially), healthier and harmless food (we’re going to get non-first-rate palm oil for the technique, which is used in many products), promotion of a healthy lifestyle (sluggish, advertise more beer), sports (young people can be more involved, the elderly are not attracted). Perhaps all this is in some particular region or area? There are progress, but ... Maybe this is a game of numbers?
      1. Van 16 22 January 2020 15: 48 New
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        This guide Rosstat changed)) or the calculation method.
        1. rocket757 22 January 2020 18: 32 New
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          Quote: Cloud Catcher
          The most important task, to increase life expectancy, has been completed, and for the shortest possible time.

          So they did it! U-ry !!!
          Quote: Van 16
          This guide Rosstat changed)) or the calculation method.

          And here it is about those who helped to FULFILL the instruction of the "father of the native".
          And that's not all!!!
          Many will have a big “joke” with a “bonus” for those who decide to breed and multiply ....
          I don’t want to "croak" but according to the statement of "cunning lawyers - economists" there is expected a big ambush!
          However, let's see if they can "croak" in vain. I really hope that in vain, but it hurts so convincingly they always predict and get into the bullseye!
    5. Wolverine 23 January 2020 10: 15 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      New government, show the character!

      You can’t swear, but in any other way.
      It remains to wait and see what other experiments will fall on our heads.


      Unfortunately for many, to wait and see is already a great luxury, you need to act today and now. hi
      1. rocket757 23 January 2020 10: 37 New
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        Quote: Wolverine
        Unfortunately for many, to wait and see is already a great luxury, you need to act today and now.

        Everything is relative, expectation is also different.
        You can engage in social and political activities ...
        You can do what is possible in your place, then what depends on yourself.
        Everyone decides and finds a case on his own. soldier
  2. GKS 2111 22 January 2020 13: 50 New
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    "No man - no problem." You cannot say more ingeniously.
    Interestingly, will the new government also stubbornly play the role of a “rhino” attacking the enemy, or will it still think about the future and begin to sort out the blockages after the Medvedev government?

    I doubt ... The course of the new government has already been voiced by the new head of government — Mikhail Mishustin opposed the cancellation of previously adopted changes in the pension system. The answer to the question about pension reform was simple: “I will not touch anything.” Mishustin opposed the nationalization of the mining industry and several others branches of the economy. As for the progressive taxation scale, Mishustin said that in Russia "there is no one to take the increased income tax rate from."
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/01/16/nichego-trogat-ne-budu-chto-poobeshchal-mishustin-na-vstreche-s-frakciey-kprf
    1. Mcar 22 January 2020 14: 55 New
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      Quote: GKS 2111
      "No man - no problem." You cannot say more ingeniously.

      Stalin never said or wrote this anywhere.

      He put into the mouth of Stalin the phrase "There is a person - there is a problem. There is no person - there is no problem." A. Rybakov in his book "Children of the Arbat." And this is just one and a million myths about Stalin.
  3. IS-80_RVGK2 22 January 2020 13: 51 New
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    I honestly don’t understand why the author wrote this article?
    1. Roman070280 22 January 2020 13: 59 New
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      Hope dies last..
      And the author just wants to hope for something else ..
      You know, as one of the victims of the pension reform, it would be completely easy for me to survive the increase in the retirement age. But on one condition. If I understood that such a reform would really benefit the country, the people, my children and grandchildren. The mentality, probably, is like this: sacrifice for the future.


      I would agree with that too ..
      Only now every year it seems to me more and more that this country will have no future ..
      Not for that we have been robbed for 20 years in order to start returning something tomorrow ..
  4. prior 22 January 2020 13: 51 New
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    Together with the pension reform, Russia entered a period of survival, as the Soviet Union had once been with the beginning of perestroika.
    And all the messages, national projects, replacements in the government are not an obstacle to this, since they essentially do not change anything.
    Really, if from among the top officials to change several of them, the essence of the economy will change?
    1. Ragoz 23 January 2020 00: 11 New
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      When will the Kremlin's "Lifetime" end?
  5. Roman070280 22 January 2020 13: 55 New
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    To steal from one part of the people that is no longer necessary for the state for the benefit of the same people - what is not a brilliant combination?


    Well, just this will never happen ..
    But to steal from one, no longer needed by the state, part of the people for their own benefit - this is precisely what we have ..
  6. Loess 22 January 2020 13: 56 New
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    Once again, I am convinced that Comrade Stalin is right in many matters.

    Not disputing the genius of Comrade Stalin, I note that the number of pensioners in the USSR in 1959 amounted to 12,9 million people. Including pensioners supported by the state, collective farms and public organizations. About pensions the collective farmers say something like this:
    The fund was to be created from the collective farm harvest and livestock products in the amount of not more than 2% of the total gross production of the collective farm. The collective farm, whenever possible, allocated products and cash to the aid fund. The pension paid by the collective farm usually consisted of benefits in kind
    This despite the fact that at this moment the population of the USSR
    The 1959 All-Union Census of the USSR showed the population of the USSR equal to 208,8 million people.

    Next.
    Until 1971, men on collective farms retired at 65, women at 60. Social equality of peasants and townspeople was achieved in Russia only in the early 1990s.

    At present, there are about 40 - 42 million pensioners in Russia with a total population of less than 150 million people.
    Therefore, frankly, I do not understand why the author mentioned Comrade Stalin. Maybe did not delve into the topic?
    1. AU Ivanov. 22 January 2020 14: 15 New
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      Information for consideration: at the time of the introduction of pension provision for citizens and the retirement age of 60 years for men and 55 years for women, in 1932 the average life expectancy was about 50 years. That is, the survival time was generally negative.
      1. Loess 22 January 2020 14: 23 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        That is, the survival time was generally negative.

        Somehow, I did not compare life expectancy and retirement age in that historical period, but if you're right ...
        And someone (I don’t remember who) the other day argued that this retirement age was scientifically justified by the inability to work productively ... In principle, as you can see, he was not mistaken, only in my opinion he put a little more into this concept optimistic meaning.
      2. Foul skeptic 22 January 2020 15: 22 New
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        Therefore, when they are guided by the average life expectancy, they act incorrectly, infant mortality strongly influences this indicator. A less imperfect way is to look at life expectancy after reaching 5 years, demographers and such derive for different ages (usually 5, 15, 60 years).
  7. avia12005 22 January 2020 13: 57 New
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    No need to defame Stalin. He already has something to criticize for. The phrase "There is a person - there is a problem. There is no person - there is no problem!" he did not speak. This statement was invented by the writer A. Rybakov, attributed it to Stalin in his book "Children of the Arbat", which he later admitted.
  8. AlexVas44 22 January 2020 14: 00 New
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    Quote: prior
    Really, if from among the top officials to change several of them, the essence of the economy will change?

    But how can it change, of course not. After all, these officials are like cards in one deck.
  9. TokarevT 22 January 2020 14: 03 New
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    There are many articles, articles are beautiful, intelligible, and Drozdov is still there.
    Other attributes of the same circle with him, in which case the chairs simply change over time, as we are now observing.
    Interestingly, is something more significant than the attention to articles on injustice, slowly in the hearts of, first of all, Russians matures?
    Will it be able to prove itself before the bearer of such a seed dies some unworthy death, doomed to it with impunity, mocking him and his children by the current helmsmen of power?
  10. Brigadier 22 January 2020 14: 07 New
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    I finally understood why Putin is so concerned about childbearing.

    He hopes that Russian women will give birth to children who (while they are valid) will plow on him and his henchmen, and which then (when they grow old and weak) You can add a retirement age of up to 80 years (those who survive, of course).

    Putin Do you think you're the only one so smart?
    And will the women of Russia give birth to children so that they live in poverty and die on your miserable pension, providing your wealth and the sweet life of your proteges?
    Wait ... Fools in Russia ended after your support of pension robbery.

    As it was well said in one film:

    1. Roman070280 22 January 2020 14: 18 New
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      He hopes that Russian women will give birth to children who (while they are still in force) will plow on him and his henchmen


      This is kind of not news ..
      You can cut all the sheep, but you can feed them, and cut the wool for many years ..
      At the same time, for other "reindeer herders" such a character begins to look quite positive, while the sheep continue to bleat joyfully, without knowing how it will end for them ..
      1. Whowhy 22 January 2020 15: 00 New
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        "People’s blood can be drunk endlessly,
        but it’s necessary with a smile, warmly and cordially ... "
        (L.Sergeev)
    2. Roman070280 22 January 2020 14: 19 New
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      Wait ... Fools in Russia ended after your support for pension robbery


      Alas, they did not end ..
      1. Roman070280 22 January 2020 15: 00 New
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        And judging by their minuses, they are also not happy that I wrote them - Alas ..
  11. Ross xnumx 22 January 2020 14: 18 New
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    Pension reform. No man - no problem?

    What is lousy lousy? The time will come - we will see the joy on the faces of the surviving pensioners.
    Increased retirement ... fellow Mother went to the pharmacy to buy test strips for the meter. And instead of 300 rubles they cost 750 ...
    You must admit that with this approach, when food and medicine rise in price faster than a pension, pensioners begin to live “not better, and not more fun” ...
    Women last longer; natural curiosity - how will these experiments end ...
    hi
  12. Whowhy 22 January 2020 14: 20 New
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    Yes, how much can the same "snot chew"? "Break off - don't tweet!"
    Now we need to talk about something else. If the president’s responsibility for violation of this Constitution were spelled out in the Constitution, then this cannibalistic “pension reform” would not exist, because for violation of Article 55 part 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation: "2. Laws repealing or belittling the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, "V. Putin would have automatically flown from the presidency (at least legally), or he would have had to officially recognize himself as a dictator.
    This "reform" became possible only because of the fact that legal "lawlessness" reigns in Russia. Why in criminal law does the new law "have no retroactive effect", but does the new law on pensions? According to this principle, the new law on pensions was supposed to concern only those who were born the day after the adoption of the law ...
    No party has claimed responsibility to appeal to the Constitutional Court. And now they’ll make all sorts of amendments, and then again they will "chew snot" ....
    1. edeligor 22 January 2020 14: 47 New
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      Well done Andrey! And this is without sarcasm. Very, very, very many questions to the guarantor. And do they really want to achieve “Russian impeachment” as in the 17th year of the last century? One gets the impression that this is what the “backstage” is achieving, “so that everything is in ruin!”.
      1. prior 22 January 2020 17: 31 New
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        ... "Very, very, very many questions for the guarantor."

        And there is not a single journalist who would directly ask the president these questions.
        The oldest profession, it’s obvious ....
    2. Kronos 22 January 2020 17: 55 New
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      They don’t give power away without a fight, so such an article with such people in power wouldn’t change anything. This is clearly seen in 1993.
  13. Lars971a 22 January 2020 14: 26 New
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    I hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. Life suggests that it will only get worse ......................
  14. Van 16 22 January 2020 14: 30 New
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    Evil is no longer enough. In fact, they came to the conclusion of the one who categorically stated that with him there would be no increase in the retirement age - he also worked for a wooden mac.
  15. Amateur 22 January 2020 14: 34 New
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    "No man - no problem." You cannot say more ingeniously. Briefly, like a shot from a pistol, and capacious, like a philosophical treatise.

    This was not said by JV Stalin. This was invented by a certain Anatoly Naumovich Rybakov in his libel "Children of the Arbat".
    Stalin spoke and wrote a lot of things. Therefore, it is not necessary to ascribe to someone else. Moreover, based on this phrase the rest of the conclusions.
  16. Typhoon 22 January 2020 14: 46 New
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    What does the new government have to do with it? We ourselves made the "pension reform", although even then it was clear what kind of reform it was and who needed it. And again we ask the new government to show character? And when will we show the character ourselves? And yes ... in the new government - the old all the faces, only changed places. These yes - they will show the character, they will raise the retirement age again - after all, the past reform was successful, the pensions were raised, the dissatisfied - no!
  17. honest people 22 January 2020 15: 38 New
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    Last year, 355 thousand Russians did not retire due to the pension reform, the head of the FIU Anton Drozdov said in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta.
    Over the year, the authorities managed to reduce the number of new pensioners by 30%: 830 thousand citizens were assigned an old-age pension, while without reform there would have been more than a million.
    In 2020, the reform effect will be even stronger: 445 thousand people will postpone retirement. In total, in two years, the new retirement age will postpone the “well-deserved rest” exit for 800 thousand Russians, Drozdov said.
    This will allow the authorities to “freeze” first, and then reduce the federal budget expenses to cover the “hole” in the Pension Fund, which two years ago exceeded 40% of the amount needed to pay pensions in the country. According to the law on the budget for 2020 and the planning period 2021-22, for three years the transfer to the FIU will be reduced by 3,8%: last year 3,322 trillion rubles were allocated for this purpose, in this - 3,243 trillion, in the next - 3,221 trillion
  18. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 January 2020 15: 43 New
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    Like the author, I am a victim of retirement age. But the fact that something will change I do not believe !!!! We are not France to burn cars at the offices of a pension fund (figurative comparison). We will fight with pension reform, and not with politicians creating the ground for reform. We will fight not on the streets, but on the Internet in the hope that someone from the powers that be will read and have mercy .... quixoticity in our heads !!!
  19. Luty 22 January 2020 16: 11 New
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    Life expectancy has increased due to a reduction in child mortality. Who doubts, go to the cemetery, look at the tablets. And what do you want for pensioners here, and young people are not really needed. High-tech medicine does not contribute to active longevity, but only prolongs the period of weakness. But then the elderly actively consume drugs and this is a plus for the economy. What are the plans in my head and the result.
  20. AB
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    "No man - no problem"

    Stalin never said anything like that. This statement was invented by the writer A. Rybakov and attributed it to Stalin in his book "Children of the Arbat".
    Mishustin’s government will continue Medvedev’s business in full. Medvedev has gone on increasing and from the heights of his new position will look after Mishustin’s movements. All the decisions made, in his reign, he does not consider a mistake. Putin supports him.
    Nobody is ever going to cancel the pension reform.
    1. Ragoz 23 January 2020 00: 21 New
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      Medvedev got a sinecure - don't do anything, just shovel money.
  21. Old Horseradish 22 January 2020 16: 38 New
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    The article for genocide has no statute of limitations.
  22. Jarserge 22 January 2020 16: 48 New
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    Alexander Staver! Stalin did not say that! There is one curious evidence, taken from a dialogue between philosopher and publicist Valery Lebedev and writer Anatoly Rybakov, author of the famous novel Children of the Arbat. Lebedev is difficult to attribute to Stalin's adherents: today he lives in America and is published in liberal and American publications. Writer Rybakov also resided in Boston when a conversation occurred.
    Lebedev:
    ... I reproduced the famous aphorism of Stalin: “There is a man - there is a problem. No man - no problem! ” Anatoly Naumovich (Rybakov) glared: where did Stalin say this? In what of his work? Or in a note? Or in what speech?
    Lebedev replied that he did not remember exactly - but that was a “catch phrase”.
    So that’s it, I invented it myself! For the first time in "Children of the Arbat" Stalin just utters this phrase. I composed - and put in the mouth of Stalin! I wrote this novel 20 years before its publication in 1987. And from there she went for a walk, and no one remembers where she came from. I, I am the author of this aphorism. (A.N. Rybakov)
    No need to “fasten” a long-dead person to the deeds of the current amateurs generated by the current society
    1. cradle 23 January 2020 04: 43 New
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      how many ITTs do not slander, and through different guano gold still appears! hi
  23. tochila 22 January 2020 17: 49 New
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    There is such a party - the party affected by the pension reform !!!!
  24. olimpiada15 22 January 2020 19: 16 New
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    The Pension Fund is a private commercial organization that manages the funds received. As always, we have everything from the evil one. Not only pensions are paid from PFR funds, maternity capital is also paid from these funds. Children are sacred, but the truth is that they are not pensioners. How much PFR spends on itself loved ones - this people do not know. I recall the scandals about the receipt by individual figures of several apartments, the withdrawal of funds from the fund. When talking about subsidies from the budget, I would like to get clear information: the total amount of funds, the amount of funds for pensions, other payments, expenses of the FIU itself. However, you can not help but recognize, we have one scheme everywhere. We have other funds, such as CHI. I almost burst into tears when I heard that this fund is protecting the rights of the insured. And in life, this is how they are involved in the withdrawal of funds and medical care in favor of their loved ones and in search of reasons to withdraw more funds from clinics. The state cuts the branch on which it sits, destroying the state itself and not understanding this.
  25. faterdom 22 January 2020 19: 46 New
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    So what to do? Yes edrosov to start with the oars to put in the background, so that at the level of the LDPR dangled at all levels.
    Already for the fact that the pension reform voted - they have nothing to do in power, if not conscience, then at least the instinct for self-preservation should be there, and they should have neither one nor the other.
    Let Putin think up “for loyalty” to them, some kind of deputies ... I wouldn’t let anyone else above the assistant scavenger, just open my sleeve ... to expand and collapse.
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    BAI 22 January 2020 19: 54 New
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    Interestingly, will the new government also stubbornly play the role of a “rhino” attacking the enemy, or will it still think about the future and begin to sort out the blockages after the Medvedev government?

    Of course, the government will be a rhino. THIS PUTIN reform! While he is in power, there will be no rollback and revision.
  27. Petrol cutter 22 January 2020 21: 26 New
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    "Pension reform. No person - no problem?"
    Glory to you Lord. Finally guessed it.
    The whole point is always the following: if you are alive, you will be here, you will be dead, you will be there.
    The survivors will receive the jackpot.
    My classmate died today (and not the first one) and his maneuvers with penitence are now of little concern. And comrade was forty-four years old. It was welded. He studied at the Welder then (studied at the same time), I'm a collector. Before that, at school.
    Here is such an increase in duration, such is eternal youth. You sit and think - I’d rather bother to get tired of already.
    1. cradle 23 January 2020 04: 41 New
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      I’ve gotten ready too early ... I'm 48 and I’m not even going to .. although everything is in the hands of God ... life is unpredictable, sometimes. laughing
  28. cradle 23 January 2020 04: 39 New
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    To the author: to admit mistakes, yes this is a fortitude ... but this will not happen.
  29. Alex66 23 January 2020 06: 38 New
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    It is strange that our government does not think what will happen next. Well, they have become richer than the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, having robbed their people under the net, canceled pensions, medicine, paid education. So after all, the people will not want such a fate for their children, will not give birth, because of flight or stupidity of one. At first cheers: less people - more oxygen. And then around us there are billions of hungry, destitute, and here these our nouveau riche and without protection, there is no people, to whom to shout: Brothers and Sisters? Think GDP who will save your grandchildren.
  30. Sapsan136 23 January 2020 12: 10 New
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    It turns out that Moscow is eager to unleash a new civil war in Russia ... Such as Medvedev and Volodin are doing everything possible for this ...
  31. Camrad 23 January 2020 22: 13 New
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    You know, as one of the victims of the pension reform, it would be completely easy for me to survive the increase in the retirement age. But on one condition. If I understood that such a reform would really benefit the country, people, my children and grandchildren.


    I fully support! Thank!
    1. Petrol cutter 26 January 2020 19: 29 New
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      Strongly agree.
  32. Comrade Kim 26 January 2020 20: 58 New
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    Quote: Tatiana
    In the project, Nabiulina supposed


    Elvira - the Lord of Darkness (there was such a film), will be watching from the side - the new head of the FIU Topilin, will soon begin his game:

  33. fif21 27 January 2020 08: 40 New
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    Let's try to figure out what is happening. Conditions of retirement 20 years - insurance experience 11 years, points 16, age 61 years (11 years, the employer must transfer money to you to the Pension Fund) The condition is not met - FREE! You will not receive a pension. The mortality rate for the second year exceeds the birth rate (only a desperate optimist can believe statistics, in the kingdom of crooked mirrors). Medicine - The order of the Ministry of Health 304n put an end to thousands of people (especially those who are over 50 years old) they simply will not be allowed to retire on medical grounds to finalize. People remain without a pension or do not live up to it, and the lucky ones will receive a penny, and in poverty they will live out their lives. That’s the whole outcome of the pension reform. And who are they after that? Do you need such rulers? hi