Stalin and the final solution of the eugenic issue

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Stalin and the final solution of the eugenic issue

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Кропоткин РІРѕРѕР ± С ‰ Рµ РЅС С Р »РѕС З РµРЅСЊ РїСЂРѕР · РѕСЂР» РёРІС ‹Рј С З РµР» овеком. Р • РіРѕ идеи РѕРєР ° Р · Р ° Р »РёСЃСЊ РѕС † енены РїРѕ достоинству спустя десяти. Р'РѕС ‚РєР ° Рє РѕРЅ отР· С‹ РІР ° Р »СЃСЏ Рѕ стерил РёР · Р ° С † РёРё В «РЅРµРїСЂРёСЃРїРѕСЃРѕР ± Р» РµРЅРЅС ‹С… В



In “Прежде С З РµРј рекоменддовР° ть стериД РёР · Р ° С † РёСЋ СЃР »Р ° Р ± РѕСРЫРЫРРРРРІРРРРРРРР ‹Р» СЌРїРёР »РµРїС‚РёРєРєРѕРј), РЅРµ Р ± С‹ Р ‹Рѕ Р» Рё РёС ..., евгеников, РсР ± СЏР · Р ° нностью РёР РЊРѓСѓС °С °С °С °С °С °С °С °С ° Рµ РєРѕСЂРЅРё Рё РїСЂРёС ‡ РёРЅС ‹СЌС‚РёС ... Р ± РѕР» еР· ней? В »

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In “R'SЃRµ те Р ± удто Р ± С‹ РЅР ° СѓС З РЅС ‹Рµ РґР ° РЅРЅС‹ Рµ, РЅР ° РєРѕС‚РѕСЂС ‹С ... РѕСЃРЅРѕРІС‹ РІР ° етѲсяяяЏ ‹СЃС € РёС ... Рё РЅРёР · С € РёС ... СЂР ° СЃР ° С ..., РЅРµ РІС‹ держивР° РµС ‚критики РІРѕ той РїСЂРѕСРСРЕСРСРЕСРСРЕСРСРЕСРСРСРЕС ° нтропология РЅРµ Р · РЅР ° ет С З РёСЃС‚С ‹С ... СЂР ° СЃВ».


Петр РђР »РµРєСЃРµРµРІРёС ‡ Кропоткин

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P ”P ° P” СЊС € Рµ - ”Р ± РѕР” СЊС € Рµ. R "RμRЅRμS,RoRєRo R®SЂRoR№ RђR" RμRєSЃR ° RЅRґSЂRѕRІRoS R¤RoR ‡ "‡ RoRїS RμRЅRєRѕ Ryo RќRoRєRѕR" P ° R№ RљRѕRЅSЃS,R ° RЅS,RoRЅRѕRІRoS RљRѕR ‡ "† SЊS RѕRІ SЃS,R ° F" Ryo RїRμSЂRІS <RјRo PI SЃS,SЂR RЅRμ ° F ° RєS,RoRІRЅS <RјRo RїSЂRѕRІRѕRґRЅRoRєR ° RјRo RoRґRμR№ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRo RєR ° C Rє PI † P SЂSЃRєRѕR№ ° F RѕSЃSЃRoRo, S,R ° Rє Ryo RїRѕSЃR "RμSЂRμRІRѕR" † SЋS RoRѕRЅRЅRѕR№ SЃS, СЂР ° РЅРµ. Можно утверждР° ть, С З С‚Рѕ РљРѕР »СЊС † РѕРІ СЃ Фил РёРїС ‡ енко, Р ° тР° кже РќРёРєР№ ° RІРёР »РѕРІ РІ определ енной степени Р · Р ° пятнР° Р »Рё СЃРІРѕСЋ ревуЂСР €СРјСРјР °С °Р ° С †Р °СЋР СјР РјРѕРј РЅР ° С ‡ Р ° Р »Рµ 20-С ... РіРѕРґРѕРІ РЅР ° контР° РєС‚ СЃ ЧР° СЂР »СЊР · РѕРј Р” евенпортом. RS,RѕS P · ° F RѕRєRμR ° RЅSЃRєRoR№ RіRμRЅRμS,RoRє Ryo RμRІRіRμRЅRoRє C ± F <R "RїSЂRoS ‡ ° F SЃS,RμRЅ Rє RїSЂRѕRґRІRoR¶RμRЅRoSЋ Sѓ SЃRμR ± SЏ RЅR SЂRѕRґRoRЅRμ RІR ° ° ° SЂRІR SЂSЃRєRoS ... S,SЂR ° РґРёС † РёРё стерилиР· Р ° С † РёРё В“ непоР”РЅРѕС † енны С… В ”.

R'Rѕ RјRЅRѕRіRѕRј SЂR ° F ± RѕS,S <P "RμRІRμRЅRїRѕSЂS,R °, P ° S,R ° RєR¶Rμ RμRіRѕ SѓS ‡ RμRЅRoRєRѕRІ Ryo RμRґRoRЅRѕRјS <C € P" RμRЅRЅRoRєRѕRІ SЃS,R ° F "Ryo RѕR ± SЉRμRєS Ѕ РѕРј РїРѕРґСЂР ° жР° РЅРёСЏ Рё С‚РІРѕСЂС З РµСЃРєРѕРіРѕ РїРµСЂРµРѕСЃРјС ‹СЃР» ения РІ С „Р ° С € истикР.Р. P "P" ... SЏ SЃRѕRІRμS,SЃRєRoS RіRμRЅRμS,RoRєRѕRІ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRѕRІ-P "RμRІRμRЅRїRѕSЂS, ± F C <F" ‡ RoSЃS,RѕS RЅRoRєRѕRј SЂRμRґRєRѕR№ RїSЂRѕS "Röhr" SЊRЅRѕR№ P "RoS,RμSЂR ° S,SѓSЂS <Ryo RІSЃSЏS ‡ еской РјРѕСЂР ° Р »СЊРЅРѕР№ поддержки.

R'RѕR · RјRѕR¶RЅRѕ, RїRѕRґ RІR "RoSЏRЅRoRμRј P" PI 1922 ° RμRІRμRЅRїRѕSЂS,R RіRѕRґSѓ R¤RoR "‡ RoRїS RμRЅRєRѕ SЃSЂRμRґRo RјRЅRѕR¶RμSЃS,RІR ° SЃRІRѕRoS RμRІRіRμRЅRoS ‡ ... ... RμSЃRєRoS RЅR ° C ‡ RoRЅR ° RЅRoR№ RѕSЃRѕR ± RѕRμ RІRЅRoRјR ° RЅRoRμ SѓRґRμR "Röhr" SЃR ± RѕSЂSѓ SЃS,R ° S,RoSЃS,RoS RμSЃRєRoS ‡ ... RґR ° RЅRЅS <C ... SЃSЂRμRґRo RІS <RґR ° SЋS ‰ ... SЃSЏ Roes, RїRѕ RμRіRѕ RјRЅRμRЅRoSЋ, SѓS ‡ RμRЅS <C ... R '° RЎR RЅRєS,-RџRμS,RμSЂR ± SѓSЂRіSЃRєRѕRј C "Röhr" Röhr ° F "Rμ RђSЂS ... RoRІR ° F ° F RѕSЃSЃRoR№SЃRєRѕR№ RєR ° RґRμRјRoRo RЅR SѓRє ° C ... SЂR RЅSЏS,SЃSЏ 62 ° F ° RЅRєRμS, С ‹, Р · Р ° РїРѕР» РЅРµРЅРЅС ‹Рµ СѓС З РµРЅС‹ РјРё того времени. Среди 25 XNUMX РІРѕРїСЂРѕСЃРѕРІ этой Р ° РЅРєРµС‚С ‹Р ± РѕР» СЊС € Р ° СЏ С З Р ° сть РІРѕСЃРІСРІРЃР °РЃРЃРЃ Чувствуете, Рє С З РµРјСѓ РѓР »РѕРЅРёР» ФиР»РёРїС З РµРЅРєРѕ? РЈС ‡ РµРЅС ‹Рµ мужи Р ± С‹ Р »Рё носител СЏРјРё неких генов гениР° Р » можно Р ± С ‹Р» Рѕ Р ± С ‹РёСЃРїРѕР» СЊР · РѕРІР ° ть РІ интересР° С ... В "СѓР» СѓС З З Р РµРЅРёСЏ С З РµРРРґРґРєРґРѕРѕР . РќР ° это, кстР° ти, СѓРєР ° Р · С ‹РІР ° Р» Рё РјРЅРѕРіРёРµ СѓС З РµРЅС ‹Рµ, РєРѕРіРґР ° отвпанннанааааааааааааааааааааааР,FROM<. RњRЅRѕRіRoRμ RІRѕRѕR C ± ‰ Rμ RѕS,RєR ° F · C <RІR ° F "RoSЃSЊ RѕS, ... RїSЂRѕS RѕR¶RґRμRЅRoSЏ RѕRїSЂRѕSЃR °, SЃSЃS <P" P ° SЏSЃSЊ RЅR ° RѕS,SЃSѓS,SЃS,RІRoRμ RІRѕRїSЂRѕSЃRѕRІ RѕR ± Roes ... РѕР ± СЂР ° Р · РѕРІР ° РЅРёРё Рё трудовой деятельности.

Спустя РґРІР ° РіРѕРґР ° ФиР»РёРІС З З РµРЅРєРѕ СЂР ° Р · СЂР ° Р ± отР° Р» РЅРѕРІС ‹Р№ РѕРїСЂРѕРЃРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂР СЃ РІРѕРїСЂРѕСЃР ° РјРё Рѕ СЂРѕРґСЃС‚РІРµРЅРЅС ‹С ... СЃРІСЏР · СЏС ... Рё РЅР ° СЃР» едственноЁР»Р ±Р ±РЋР »РЋРЋРЋРЋРЋРЋРЋРЋРЋРЋ РѕРІР ° РЅРёРё Р ° РЅРєРµС‚РёСЂСѓРµРјС ‹С ..., РёС ... трудовой деятел ьности. RќRѕ Rє S,R ° RєRѕR№ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRμ, PI RєRѕS,RѕSЂRѕR№ RЅRѕSЃRoS,RμR "SЏRјRo SЃR ° RјS <C ... C † RμRЅRЅS <C ... RіRμRЅRѕRІ SЏRІR" SЏSЋS,SЃSЏ RїSЂRμRґSЃS,R ° RІRoS,RμR "Ryo RoRЅS,RμR R


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Rљ SЃRμSЂRμRґRoRЅRμ 20-C ... RіRѕRґRѕRІ PI RЎRЎRЎR RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєR ° ° SЃS,R RЅRѕRІRoS,SЃSЏ RѕRґRЅRoRј Röhr · RјRѕRґRЅS <C ... RЅR ° ° RїSЂR RІR "RμRЅRoR№ RЅRμ S,RѕR" SЊRєRѕ PI RЅR ° SѓRєRμ, RЅRѕ Ryo PI RєSѓR "SЊS ‚СѓСЂРµ. In RџSЊRμSЃR ° "‡ RҐRѕS Sѓ SЂRμR RμRЅRєR ° ± B" RґSЂR RјR ° ° ° S,SѓSЂRіR RЎRμSЂRіRμSЏ RўSЂRμS,SЊSЏRєRѕRІR ° RѕRїRoSЃS <RІR ° F "P ° S,RoRїRoS RЅSѓSЋ R¶RμRЅS ‡ P ‰ RoRЅSѓ ± RѕR" SЊS € РµРІРёС З РєСѓ РњРёР »РґСѓ Р“ СЂРёРіРЅР ° Сѓ, которР° СЏ РѕС З РµРЅСЊ С ... Ryo SѓR R'SѓRґSѓS ‡ ± RμR¶RґRμRЅRЅS <Rј C P ‡ "‡ RμRЅRѕRј RєRѕRјRјSѓRЅRoSЃS,RoS RμSЃRєRѕR№ RїR ° SЂS,RoRo, RњRoR" RґR ° RїRѕRґS ... RѕRґRoS, Rє SЌS,RѕRјSѓ R¶RμR "P ° RЅRoSЋ PI SЃRѕRѕS І RІРµС‚ствии СЃ СѓРєР ° Р · Р ° РЅРёСЏРјРё РїР ° ртии - ”РЅР ° СѓС З РЅРѕ. РћРЅР ° РЅРµ РґСѓРјР ° РµС ‚РЅРё Рѕ Р» СЋР ± РІРё, РЅРё Рѕ Р ± СЂР ° РєРµ, РѕРЅР ° просто С ... РѕС ‡ РµС ‚РЅР ° Р№СРґРЕРРСР …Р…… R ° RґR »СЏ своего Р ± СѓРґСѓС ‰ его реР± енкР° Рё СѓР ± едить его РѕРїР» одотворит. R нтелл РёРіРµРЅС ‚РІРѕ имени Р” РёСЃС † РёРїР »РёРЅРµСЂ РµС 'РЅРµ интересуРЫРРСРІРСРІРСРІРѕРІРСРІРѕРІРСРІРѕРІРСРІРѕРІРСРІРСРІРѕРІРСРІРСРІРСРІРСРІРСРІРСРІРСРІРСР% мнению РњРёР »РґС‹, годится РЅР ° СЂРѕР »СЊ РѕС‚С † Р ° Р ± СѓРґСѓС ‰ его реР± енкР°. RЇRєRѕRІ RєR ° RєRѕRμ-S,Rѕ RІSЂRμRјSЏ RѕRїSЂR ° RІRґS <RІR RμS,SЃSЏ ° C S,Rѕ ‡ P "SЋR ± Roes, RґSЂSѓRіSѓSЋ, RћR" RoRјRїRoR ° RґSѓ, RЅRѕ RІSЃRμ-S,R ° RєRo RЅR ° F ° РІР ° нтюру СЃ РѕС‚С † овством СЃРѕРіР »Р ° С € Р ° ется. RџSЊRμSЃR ° F · ° F RєR ° RЅS ‡ RoRІR ° RμS,SЃSЏ RєRѕRЅRєSѓSЂSЃRѕRј RґRμS,RμR№, RїSЂRѕRІRѕRґRoRјS <Rј RІSЂR ° C ± ‡ RμR RЅRѕR№ RєRѕRјRoSЃSЃRoRμR№ C ± ‡ S,RѕR C <RѕRїSЂRμRґRμR "RoS,SЊ R" СѓС ‡ С € его реР± енкР° С, СЂРѕРґРёРІС € егося РІ РІСЂРѕС € РµРґС € ем РіРѕРґСѓ. Р'С ‹РёРіСЂС‹ РІР ° СЋС ‚РєРѕРЅРєСѓСЂСЃ РґРІРѕРµ детей — РсР ± Р ° СЂРѕР¶РґРµРЅС ‹РѕС‚ РѕРґРЅРѕРіРѕРѕРІРСР ° С · РЅС ‹РјРё РјР ° терями, РњРёР» РґРѕР№ Рё РћР »РёРјРїРёР ° РґРѕР№. RЎSЂRμRґRo RІSЃRμRѕR C ± RμRіRѕ ‰ P "RoRєRѕRІR ° RЅRoSЏ RoRЅS,RμR" P "RoRіRμRЅS, P" † RoSЃS RoRїR "RoRЅRμSЂ RјSЂR ° C RЅRѕ ‡ P · ° F SЏRІR" SЏRμS, C ‡ P S,Rѕ ± RѕR "SЊS € Рµ РІРѕР »РѕРІРёРЅС‹ гениев Р ± С ‹Р» Рѕ Р ± еР· детно. РџРѕРїР ° С ... РёРІР ° РµС ‚Р ° Р ± СЃСѓСЂРґРѕРј Рё своеоР± СЂР ° Р · РЅС‹ Рј промискуитетом, РЅРЅР ° Р ° Р Р'РѕС ‚Рё советскР° СЏ С † енР· СѓСЂР ° С З РµС‚РєРѕ РґР ° Р» Р ° понять РґСЂР ° RsR »СЊРґСѓ, которы Р№ желР° Р» постР° вить В «РҐРѕС З Сѓ реР± енкР° В» РЅР ° СЃС † RµРЅРµРѕРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРЗРнедопустимо. R '100 RіРѕРґСѓ пьесу Р · Р ° претили РґР» СЏ постР° РЅРѕРІРєРё РІ теР° трР° С ... ВЂ ”РєР ° Рє СРРРС ° ° Р ° ° ° · · · ° ° ° ° ° ° · Р ° Р№, РєРѕРіРґР ° С † енР· СѓСЂР ° РѕРєР ° Р · Р ° Р »Р ° СЃСЊ РІРѕ Р ± Р» Р ° РіРѕ. Рђ РІ 1929 РіРѕРґСѓ ТретьяковР° СЂР ° сстрелял Рё, РїСЂР ° РІРґР °, РЅРµ Р · Р ° пьесу.

RЎRїSЂR ° RІRμRґR "RoRІRѕSЃS,Ro SЂR ° RґRo SЃS,RѕRoS, SЃRєR ° F · F S,SЊ ° C ‡ S,Rѕ SЃRѕRІRμS,SЃRєR ° SЏ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєR ° RЅRoRєRѕRіRґR ° C ± RЅRμ P <P" P ° RїSЂRoRІRμSЂR¶RμRЅRєRѕR No. РєСЂР ° Р№РЅРёС ... мер РІ РІРёРґРµ стерилиР· Р ° С † РёРё РёР» Рё сегрегР° С † РёРёР (СЃРёРµ Р ± С ‹Р »РѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕРѕР Ryo SЃRєR ° RЅRґRoRЅR ° RІSЃRєRѕR№ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRμ) RЅRѕ RјS <SЃR "SЊ of the PS S,RѕRј C ‡ S,Rѕ RѕS, RѕRґRЅRѕRіRѕ The" C ‡ SЂRμR RІS · <C ‡ P † ° C R№RЅRѕ RμRЅRЅRѕRіRѕ RїSЂRѕRoR · RІRѕRґRoS ‚ел СЏВ »РґРѕР» жно Р · Р ° Р ± ерРRјRμRЅRμS,SЊ RєR Rє RјRѕR¶RЅRѕ ° F ± RѕR "SЊS € RμRμ RєRѕR" Roes ‡ ‰ RμSЃS,RІRѕ R¶RμRЅS RoRЅ, SЂRμRіSѓR "SЏSЂRЅRѕ RІSЃRїR" C <RІR ° F "of the PS PI SЂRμS ° C ‡ P ... Pd SЃS ‚Р ° С‚СЊСЏС .... РЎРѕР ± ственно, РІРѕ Р ° РЅР ° Р »РѕРіРёРё СЃРѕ СЃР» РѕРІРѕРј В «Р · РѕРѕС‚РµС ... РЅРёРєР ° В» РєРѕС‚РѕСЂС ‹Рј Р · Р ° менял Рё РёРЅРѕРіРґР ° термин евгеникР°. In “P — PIRPs'RёRЅР ° СЏ С„ РёР ”РѕСЃРѕС“ РёСЏВ ”, С З С‚Рѕ же РµС ‰ Рµ СЃРєР ° Р · Р ° ть?

РќР ° С З Р ° Р »Рѕ РєРѕРЅС † Р °. РџРёСЃСЊРјРѕ СтР° Р »РёРЅЅѓ


RћRїSЂRμRґRμR "RμRЅRЅRѕR№ RїRѕR" RoS,RoS RμSЃRєRѕR№ RѕS ‡ ± € Röhr RєRѕR№ SЃRѕRІRμS,SЃRєRoS ... RїRѕSЃR "RμSЂRμRІRѕR" SЋS † RoRѕRЅRЅS <C ... RіRμRЅRμS,RoRєRѕRІ Ryo RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRѕRІ P ± C <P "of the PS SѓS,RІRμSЂR¶RґRμRЅRoRμ, СЗ С‚Рѕ носителями В« С‚РІРѕСЂС З РµСЃРєРѕРіРѕВ »РіРµРЅРµС‚РёС ‡ еского РєР ° РёРё Рё Рё Рё Рё Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ± Р ° Р ° Р ± Р R ° СЂРёРё, РІРѕР »СѓС ‡ РёРІС € РёРµ РІР» Р ° сть РІ СоветР° С ..., Р ° интелл РёРіРµРЅС‚С ‹. Рђ СЃ СѓС ‡ етом того, С З С‚Рѕ Р “СЂР ° ждР° РЅСЃРєР ° СЏ РІРѕР№РЅР ° Рё СЌРјРёРіСЂР ° С † РёСЏ серСРРРРРРРРРРРРРРРРРРР ·РРРРРРРР , RІRѕSЂS RμSЃRєRoR№V ‡ "SЂRμSЃSѓSЂSЃ RЅR ° C † RoRo, SЃR" RμRґRѕRІR ° F "of the PS · SЃRѕR RґR ° S,SЊ, RїRѕ RјRЅRμRЅRoSЋ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRѕRІ, SѓSЃR" RѕRІRoSЏ RґR "SЏ RґR ° F" SЊRЅRμR№S RμRіRѕ SЃRѕS ... € СЂР ° нения Рё В «СЂР ° Р · множения» интелл РёРіРµРЅС † РёРё.

P P P ° · ° RІRoRІR RІS € RμRμSЃSЏ PI PI RЎRЎRЎR S,Rμ RІSЂRμRјRμRЅR ° SѓS ‡ RμRЅRoRμ RІRѕR of the PS · RјRѕR¶RЅRѕSЃS,Ro RЅR SЃR ° "° RμRґRѕRІR RЅRoSЏ RїSЂRoRѕR ± SЂRμS,RμRЅRЅS <C ... RїSЂRoR · RЅR ° RєRѕRІ RЅR ° F ° RїSЂSЏRјSѓSЋ SЃS,R "RєRoRІR ° F" of the PS F "P ± P ° RјRo SѓS ‡ RμRЅS <C ... -RјR ° S,RμSЂRoR ° F" RoSЃS,RѕRІ Ryo RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRѕRІ. RўR ° Rє, RѕSЃRЅRѕRІR ° S,RμR "SЊ RљSЂSѓR¶RєR ° RІSЂR ° C ‡ RμR№-RјR ° S,RμSЂRoR ° F" RoSЃS,RѕRІ P> RμRІRoS, PI 1927 RіRѕRґSѓ RїRoSЃR ° F ":

In R'RsR, SЊC € RёRЅSЃS‚РІРѕ S'СѓСЃСЃРєРёС… РІСЂР ° С З РµР№ уже РґР ° РІРЅРѕ РїСЂРёР · РЅР ° Р »Рё РІРѕР · РјРѕРЃРЊРЊР °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р ° С РµРЅРЅС ‹С ... свойств. RљR ° Rє RoRЅR ° C ‡ ‡ Rμ RјRѕR¶RЅRѕ S,RμRѕSЂRμS,RoS RμSЃRєRo RѕR ° ± RѕSЃRЅRѕRІR S,SЊ P "· RѕR SѓRЅRі of the PS RїRμSЂRμSЃS,SЂRѕR№RєRμ RІSЃRμR№ RјRμRґRoS † RoRЅS <RЅR ° RїSЂRѕS" Röhr "P ° РєС‚РёС З РµСЃРєРёРµ рельсы? RњS <SЃR "RoRјRѕ P" · Pd SЃRμSЂSЊRμR RЅRѕ RіRѕRІRѕSЂRoS,SЊ of the PS RїRѕRґRѕR ± RЅS <RјRμSЂRѕRїSЂRoSЏS,RoSЏS C ... ... ... RoSЃS RѕRґSЏ RїSЂRo SЌS,RѕRј Röhr · RїSЂRμRґRїRѕSЃS <P "of the PS RѕRє RЅRμRoR · ° RјRμRЅRЅRѕSЃS,Ro RіRμRЅRѕS,RoRїR ?IN"

РџРѕРґРЅСЏР »Р ° СЃСЊ первР° СЏ РІРѕР» РЅР ° РјР ° рксистской критики евгеникии. R¤RoR "‡ RoRїS RμRЅRєRѕ PI SЌS,RѕR№ SЃRІSЏR · Pd SѓR SЂR ° ± P" SЌS,RѕS, S,RμSЂRјRoRЅ RїSЂR ° RєS,RoS ‡ RμSЃRєRo Röhr of the PS · RІSЃRμS ... SЂR ° F ± RѕS, P · P ° менив его РЅР ° генетику С З РµР »РѕРІРµРєР ° РёР» Рё РјРµРґРёС † РёРЅСЃРєСѓСЋ генетик. Р • РІРѕ примеру РїРѕСЃР »РµРґРѕРІР ° Р» Рё РјРЅРѕРіРёРµ сторонники евгеники.


РђР »РµРєСЃР ° РЅРґСЂ РЎРµСЂРіРµРµРІРёС З РЎРµСЂРµР ± СЂРѕРІСЃРєРёР№. RџSЂRμRґR "P ° RіR ° F" PI ° C ‡ P SЃS,RЅRѕSЃS,Ro, RѕSЃRμRјRμRЅSЏS,SЊ SЃRѕRІRμS,SЃRєRoS ... ‰ R¶RμRЅS RoRЅ S,RѕR "SЊRєRѕ RѕS" S,RІRѕSЂS RμSЃRєRѕRіRѕ ‡ "† C RІRμS, P ° PЅP ° C † RyoRyo

R 'итоге уже РИ 1931 РіРѕРґСѓ РІ 23-Рј томе Р'РѕР »СЊС € РѕР№ СовеЂЁииааааааааааааааааааададдддддддддддддддддддддР° R »Ryo:

In “…в РЎРЎРЎР Рќ. Rљ. RљRѕR "SЊS † RѕRІ RїS <S,R ° F" SЃSЏ RїRμSЂRμRЅRμSЃS,Ro PI SЃRѕRІRμS,SЃRєSѓSЋ RїSЂR ° RєS,RoRєSѓ RІS <RІRѕRґS <C "P ° C € RoSЃS,SЃRєRѕR№ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRovЂ| RљRѕR" SЊS RѕRІ †, P ° РѕС‚С ‡ Р ° сти ФиР»РёРІС ЗЗ РµРЅРєРѕ СЃРѕР» РёРґР ° СЂРёР · РёСЂРѕРІР ° Р »РёСЃСЊ СЃ С„ Р ° С € истскооЛЛЛЛР° › .

P • PIRPРRЅRёRє ФрР° РЅС † Р ›РµРЅС † Р ± С‹ P RѕRіRoRo, RїRѕSЌS,RѕRјSѓ SЃSЂR RІRЅRμRЅRoRμ SЃ RЅRoRј ° F ± C <P "of the PS RґR" SЏ SѓS ‡ RμRЅRѕRіRѕ-RіRμRЅRμS,RoRєR ° SЃRѕRїRѕSЃS,R ° RІRoRјRѕ SЃ SѓRЅRoR¶RμRЅRoRμRј.

Rђ SЃRμSЂRμRґRoRЅRμ PI-30 C ... RіRѕRґRѕRІ RμRІRіRμRЅRoRєRμ RѕS,RєSЂRѕRІRμRЅRЅRѕ RЅRμ RїRѕRІRμR · P "of the PS SЃ RЅR ° C † RoSЃS,R ° RјRo, RєRѕS,RѕSЂS <Rμ RїRѕRґRЅSЏR" Ryo RЅR SЃRІRѕRo ° F · RЅR RјRμRЅR ° ° ° RoRґRμRo RЅR SѓRєRo РѕР ± СѓР »СѓС З С € ении С З РµР» РѕРІРµС З РµСЃРєРѕР№ РїСЂРёСЂРѕРґС ‹, РёР · РІСЂР ° тив РёС ... РґРѕ Р ± еР· Р ° Р · Р ° Р. RS‚Рѕ тР° кже РїСЂРёС ‡ РёРЅРѕР№ РѕРїР ° Р »С‹ СѓС З РµРЅС ‹С ... евгеников РІ Советском РЎРѕР.


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  1. +57
    23 January 2020 05: 05
    Stalin was not obscurantist and other and other what they are trying to accuse him!
    Neither an angel nor a demon, an ordinary tough, purposeful leader of the state in the difficult political, economic period of history! He did it!
    EVERYTHING.
    1. +8
      23 January 2020 05: 14
      Quote: rocket757
      He did it!
    2. +17
      23 January 2020 05: 15
      Indeed, arrogant nonsense:
      The nail in the coffin of Soviet medical genetics, eugenics, and indeed genetics
      Ah, all Soviet genetics was so taken root that already in 33 g the Institute of Genetics of the USSR Academy of Sciences was created, and not from scratch.
      1. +6
        23 January 2020 11: 54
        not empty
        Filipchenko mentioned in an article in 1921 proposed the creation of the Eugenics Bureau
        in 1925 created, called the Bureau of Genetics and Eugenics
        and by 1929 it became known as the Bureau of Genetics
        in 1930- Laboratory of Genetics, USSR Academy of Sciences
        in 1933 - Institute of Genetics, USSR Academy of Sciences
        in 1941-1965 Lysenko became its director
        in 1965 the Institute of Genetics of the USSR Academy of Sciences was closed
        Later, a new Institute of General Genetics of the USSR Academy of Sciences was created on the basis of some laboratories of the closed institute and the Laboratory of Radiation Genetics of the Institute of Biophysics of the USSR Academy of Sciences - the atomic era was striding.
        hi
    3. +23
      23 January 2020 06: 03
      Quote: rocket757
      ....... purposeful leader of the state in the difficult political, economic period of history! He did it! EVERYTHING.

      If you compare the achievements of Stalin in the development of the country and modern democratizers over 29 years ----- the difference is visible on all counts.
      1. +3
        23 January 2020 06: 47
        Quote: Reptiloid
        If you compare the achievements of Stalin in the development of the country and modern democratizers over 29 years ----- the difference is visible on all counts.

        Hi Dmitry soldier
        Really discuss nothing. Everything has long been known.
        There remains a confrontation of faith, preferences, one might say such, races of such obstinacy .... it is incorrigible.
        We remain casual in our own way ... although the struggle for the minds of the younger generation does not stop NEVER!
        1. +6
          23 January 2020 07: 22
          Quote: rocket757
          soldier Really discuss nothing. Everything has long been known ....

          Good morning, Victor! It would seem, yes, everything is known! However, all slander and lies about that time continue many times. "" Water wears away the stone "". Foreign "partners" are also trying.
          1. 0
            23 January 2020 08: 16
            Good morning, Victor! It would seem, yes, everything is known! However, all slander and lies about that time continue many times. "" Water wears away the stone "". Foreign "partners" are also trying.
            Water can and does whet, but whether it is water, it’s more likely bacteria and viruses, from which the country's immune system has only become stronger. About the Bible, for example, too much has been said, Jesus, too, is slanderous for everyone, and?
            1. +3
              23 January 2020 08: 32
              Quote: stalki
              . About the Bible, for example, too much has been said, Jesus, too, is slanderous for everyone, and?
              This topic is very large, but in it "" everything is not so simple "", .....
              Long-term programs of "partners" exist and the destruction of the USSR is an example of this.
              1. +4
                23 January 2020 13: 53
                This topic is very large, but in it "" everything is not so simple "", .....
                Long-term programs of "partners" exist and the destruction of the USSR is an example of this.
                I don’t deny it, we just didn’t form 244 years ago, but rather. And our borders have repeatedly changed, contracted, expanded. But with the Amerskakuas, everything is a gallop, and the island ones are not the same. Increased metabolism, quickly burn potential. May God burn.
          2. +2
            23 January 2020 08: 35
            Quote: Reptiloid
            It would seem, yes, everything is known!

            You can always twist everything in your own way. The struggle for the minds has always been, just another, different, stage ... it touched the future. We can’t redo it anymore.
    4. -4
      23 January 2020 09: 14
      and also cautiously offered to artificially inseminate women in those regions where there are few men. Moreover, it was men who turned out to be carriers of advanced genes; women in this story were seen as nothing more than incubators.

      this place in the article is the intentional perversion of eugenics.
      After any war, the number of men decreases and there is simply not enough men for all the remaining women. What is the way out of this situation? Either women will seek love in line with the remaining men, or they will be fertilized in special centers. From the point of view of human morality, both look bad, but the war itself is immoral, so its consequences too.
      As for eugenics itself, the very goal of this science is the noble creation of a perfect person.
      1. +10
        23 January 2020 09: 27
        Quote: Bar2
        As for eugenics itself, the very goal of this science is the noble creation of a perfect person.

        With good intentions, you know where to go the way. Anyone who has arrogated to himself the right to think / decide for others, stumbles .... and then, it went - let's go!
        1. -4
          23 January 2020 10: 45
          But what about Comrade Stalin? He just decided, thought for others.
          Or is this not applicable to him?
          1. +4
            23 January 2020 11: 05
            Quote: Mestny
            But what about Comrade Stalin? He just decided, thought for others.
            Or is this not applicable to him?

            No matter how we argue, there was a collegial, deliberative body, i.e. he didn’t solve everything himself.
            After his departure, not small problems began ... if it is not to stumble, then what is it?
            Moreover, he had obvious miscalculations, mistakes that many had to pay for.
            As always, the balance is in + and - .... and then on to the scales of history, the estimates of posterity. What happened more?
            1. -15
              23 January 2020 11: 10
              Quote: rocket757
              No matter how we argue, there was a collegial, deliberative body, i.e. he didn’t solve everything himself.

              Really? And with whom did he "consult"?
              With cockroaches, probably. Because more in the USSR he did not bother with any meetings.
              1. VLR
                +1
                25 January 2020 08: 00
                Stalin became "Stalin" on May 6, 1941, when he took over as chairman of the Council of People's Commissars. Until then, he was only the general secretary of the party and had no direct levers of control. Thanks to his authority, he was the first among equals, but no more, and all issues were decided by voting at the Politburo. And Stalin was almost always in the minority, but had to submit to party discipline. That is why his comrades-in-arms betrayed him so happily: did they dump all their mistakes and miscalculations on the "tyrant" Stalin, who intimidated them and "forced" the same "white and fluffy" Khrushchev to be a ghoul and a beast.
      2. +7
        23 January 2020 10: 43
        Quote: Bar2

        As for eugenics itself, the very goal of this science is the noble creation of a perfect person.

        Creating a "perfect man"? Are you seriously? And who is he, "perfect man"? Rather, what is it? Show me an example of something perfect in nature.
        And since nature was unable to do this, then where could a person ...
        1. -19
          23 January 2020 11: 13
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Creating a "perfect man"? Are you seriously? And who is he, "perfect man"?

          Soviet man, in the opinion of the Soviet people, is perfection.
          They generally have their own ideas about perfection. Humility (power), brainlessness, aggressiveness (on command), lack of education - these are just a few of the hallmarks of Soviet excellence.
          1. +16
            23 January 2020 11: 26
            Soviet man, in the opinion of the Soviet people, is perfection.
            They generally have their own ideas about perfection. Humility (power), brainlessness, aggressiveness (on command), lack of education - these are just a few of the hallmarks of Soviet excellence.

            You are so disgusted with everything that relates to the Soviet period, but at the same time, if you follow your list, then you yourself are a Soviet person wassat winked
            Does the inner dissonance not break the firebrand for you?
          2. +13
            23 January 2020 11: 45
            Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
            Soviet man, in the opinion of the Soviet people, is perfection.

            Figured it out myself...
            Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
            Humility (power), brainlessness, aggressiveness (on command), lack of education - these are just a few of the hallmarks of Soviet excellence.

            Himself and criticized. Ah yes Dmitry Igilovich (banned in the Russian Federation)
        2. +4
          23 January 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Creating a "perfect man"? Are you seriously? And who is he, "perfect man"? Rather, what is it?


          easy is Russian.

          1. -11
            23 January 2020 13: 09
            Quote: Bar2
            easy is Russian.

            And what is there in them from the Russians?
            Do you even know who the Russians are? Have you heard anything about R1a? The Russians (their roots) are much south and slightly west of Arkhangelsk. Yes, and Vologda, too.
            1. +2
              23 January 2020 13: 36
              Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
              And what is there in them from the Russians?


              men are handsome, women are pretty, these are Russians.
              Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
              Do you even know who the Russians are? Have you heard anything about R1a? The Russians (their roots) are much south and slightly west of Arkhangelsk. Yes, and Vologda, too.


              know the story?
              Russia, Chervonnaya Russia, black Russia, Porussia / Prussia, Borussia are the areas where the Russians actually lived — these are Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania — the current land.
              And our ancestors in the Russian Plain, in the Urals, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, Kazakhstan and others were called differently. The original name of our people is Kolyany or Sokolyan / Skoloty according to Herodotus. Alans, Cossacks / Brodniks / Cherkasy, Kalmyks (yes, the Kalmyks were white and lived in Kazakhstan on these lands). The Tartars or correctly the Dardars, that is, the Darya / Dariyans were white people and spoke Russian and Turkic.
              In Europe, the darkness of Russian-speaking peoples, for example, the Etruscans / races, the Longobards / long beards, the Wends / Wends / Noriks who built Venice, Vienna, from the word Venets. The Cathars in Galia / France / Britain, Gala throughout Europe and finally the famous Varangians who are wrong translated and which are just Vary i.e. Bars.
              In Africa, the countries of Barika and Barbarya were ruled by Mamelukes, as well as Maruses (Moors in OI) speaking Russian and Tatar, Turkic.
              As far back as the 18th century, Turkish Turks understood in Russian what the priest Lukyanov traveling to the Holy Land said.
              As for all these haplogroups, this only confuses the story.
              1. -4
                23 January 2020 14: 10
                Quote: Bar2
                men are handsome, women are pretty, these are Russians.

                But others are not handsome and not pretty?
                Quote: Bar2
                Russia, Chervonnaya Russia, black Russia, Porussia / Prussia, Borussia are the areas where the Russians actually lived — these are Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania — the current land.

                To begin with, no one heard about the Russians at all then.
                Rusichs lived in Russia (Ancient, Tartaria later stood out from it, and the remaining metropolitan part of Russia is often called, so that there is no confusion, Holy Russia). Yes, they had all kinds of colonies (Chervonnaya Russia, Black Russia, etc.). But there lived not Rusich, but other peoples.
                In Poland, Lithuania, etc. Rusich didn’t live at all, there glade lived. Glades are also Slavs, but for some reason they parted with the Rus in ancient times.
                Muslim Tartars lived in Tartary. In Russia (Holy Russia) Rusich-Orthodox.
                =
                This is your nonsense that everything in the world came from Russians (who themselves appeared in the 18th century as the name of citizenship and in the 20th century as the name of a nation), I will not read.
                1. -2
                  23 January 2020 14: 35
                  Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                  men are handsome, women are pretty, these are Russians. / quote]

                  But others are not handsome and not pretty?

                  no, of course, for example


                  or is this



                  I don’t even want to include such news precisely because of such horrors.



                  Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                  Holy Russia


                  Holy Russia is only in the songs, in what sources is it still there?

                  Dmitry Igorevich Yes, they had different kinds of colonies


                  Colonies know what? These are precisely the areas in the world where the Kolyans lived. For example, Berlin was originally called the Colony or Cologne - also the Colony. After the conquest of the Russians
                  German invaders replaced the meaning of the word colony.

                  Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                  But there lived not Rusich, but other peoples.
                  In Poland, Lithuania, etc. Rusich didn’t live at all, there glade lived.

                  on all medieval maps, for example, Paolo Farlani 1568.



                  near Polonia / Polyany region of Russia.

                  Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                  This is your nonsense that everything in the world came from Russians (who themselves appeared in the 18th century as the name of citizenship and in the 20th century as the name of a nation), I will not read.


                  and chronicles of the 13th century Radzivilovskaya for example, where the Rouskaya land of the 9th century is written, then how is this to be understood?
                  1. -3
                    23 January 2020 14: 50
                    Quote: Bar2
                    Of course not

                    Yeah This is already some kind of language.
                    Quote: Bar2
                    Holy Russia is only in the songs, in what sources is it still there?

                    In all Orthodox. So the ROC separated Orthodox Russia from "Busurmanskaya" (Muslim in reality). After the separation of Tartary from Russia and its conversion to Islam.
                    By the way, the capital of Russia has always been in Kiev. The capital of Tartaria was in Moscow.
                    Quote: Bar2
                    near Polonia / Polyany region of Russia.

                    Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                    In Poland, Lithuania, etc. Rusich didn’t live at all, there glade lived. Glades are also Slavs, but for some reason they parted with the Rus in ancient times.

                    Of course, they did not disperse to different ends of the planet. Even Orthodox glades were Litvin called. Now they have left only fragments, Belarusians and Volyn lithuanians in Ukraine.
                    Quote: Bar2
                    and chronicles of the 13th century, Radzivilovskaya for example, where it is written Rouskaya land of the 9th century, then how to understand?

                    But do not understand. Check the chronicle for a fake.
                    1. -4
                      23 January 2020 15: 40
                      Well, there was such a city of mosques in Moscow. Here is a map of the 16th century in Moscow on domes instead of crosses - crescents. The truth is this does not say that these were Muscovites were Muslims, but most likely that in the 16th century there was no Christianity in Moscow, but old faith. What is not known.



                      Here the Earth City shows that the temples have crescents, not crosses.





                      Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                      By the way, the capital of Russia has always been in Kiev


                      Kiev is not a strange city of the Kremlin, there is no palace of the prince and there are no houses at all over the 18th century.

                      Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                      The capital of Tartaria was in Moscow.


                      maybe initially to Peter the damned, and then Tobolsk, Samarkand and in China, something.

                      Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
                      But do not understand. Check the chronicle for a fake.


                      besides the annals, we have little that is. The manuscripts are of course corrected, but not 100%, the fact that Russia was from ancient times is most likely true.
        3. 0
          23 January 2020 17: 49
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Give me an example of something perfect in nature.
          And since nature was unable to do this, then where could a person ...

          Are you seriously?
          you yourself yesterday did not give an example of a successful leader and country, but today ask that you give an example?
          how so
          1. +3
            23 January 2020 17: 59
            Quote: NEOZ

            Are you seriously?
            you yourself yesterday did not give an example of a successful leader and country, but today ask that you give an example?
            how so

            Here is Velcro, stuck like a bath sheet to the ass.
            I consider I.V. Stalin a successful leader of the country. Satisfied your interest?
        4. VLR
          0
          25 January 2020 08: 18
          Meanwhile, in large Russian polyclinics there is a position of "medical geneticist". Which, bashful political correctness aside, is eugenic. Because there are real genetic diseases.
          And in the "rotten west" there are still "sperm banks" from "exemplary producers" (and in Russia too, only on a smaller scale, and they try not to advertise them) - also pure eugenics. How to treat them? Overclock? Or - to give single women the opportunity of artificial insemination from a guaranteed healthy man?
          Eugenics becomes a criminal offense when women are chased by a formation to "fertilize" from government-selected partners. And they do not allow "racially unclean" people to breed. Another example of criminal eugenics is when in feudal Russia or in the slave-owning states of the United States, the owners sometimes "engaged in selection", choosing who of the serfs or slaves to marry whom.
      3. +10
        23 January 2020 11: 41
        Bar2 (Paul)
        Well, what kind of person you are - whatever you say, it would be better not to say that.
        I don’t know about everyone else, but when I read the comments on VO I somehow miss the authorship, it doesn’t catch my eye if I don’t concentrate on it. Therefore, the first impression from the comment I read is clear. This I mean that after reading this comment of yours, I still did not know that he is yours, I just thought to myself: "Who is so smart here? Surely some kind of natsik ..." and then - oops! - I see your nickname. Nicely...
        Quote: Bar2
        this place in the article is the intentional perversion of eugenics.

        You do not understand or pretend? The article refers to Meller’s letter in which he formulated proposals for the implementation of the eugenic program in the USSR. And the meaning of this program was forced insemination of women with sperm of specially selected men. The woman in this program was perceived as an incubator, which should bring offspring. Own desires or preferences did not leave a place - it was possible to give birth only from the one from whom it was necessary, and not from the one from whom one wanted to and had to give birth if the woman was capable of this in principle.
        On whose side do you see the distortion of eugenics - the author of the article or the author of the program?
        Quote: Bar2
        As for eugenics itself, the very goal of this science is the noble creation of a perfect person.

        Human or humanity?
        If the first, then this is definitely the creation of a "race of masters", supermen, which will stand above the rest already on a completely medically and genetically grounded platform.
        If the second, then this is the replacement of one humanity with another. Roughly speaking, the "master race" cleanses the planet of genetic debris.
        Not that, not in another version, I see nothing noble.
        And you?
        1. -4
          23 January 2020 12: 54
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Well, what kind of person you are - whatever you say, it would be better not to say that.


          who is better than that, you what? Do not wait. Or is it "better" for you when from the mods numerous pluses pour into your virtual bucket?



          Quote: Trilobite Master
          the meaning of this program was forced insemination of women with sperm of specially selected men


          do not imagine where the article says about "forced"? Are you lying? But as always.

          Quote: Trilobite Master
          There was no place left for one's own desires or preferences - it was possible to give birth only from the one from whom it was necessary, and not from the one from whom one wanted to and give birth it was necessary if the woman was capable of this in principle.


          Enough is already nonsense, there is no such thing.

          about the race of gentlemen

          There is no wrong .. The Russian society has always lived without the ugly, as the stratification of society according to wealth and position is now. In Russian society, collectivism, the whole world, the Cossack circle, the popular chamber always ruled. The Russian tsar always did everything for the benefit of his people, and not someone else’s as now, the Russian people understood this faithfully served the tsar and the fatherland.
          in Russian society (before Peter), service to the Fatherland was always in the first place, and there were no races of masters in our society.
          Now, on the contrary, everything is for sale, our land (Ukraine and other lands) and just given for so, forests, water (Baikal), not Russians, all sorts of blacks and blacks, settle on our Russian land and this is precisely the policy of these authorities.
          This is the truth, not nonsense about the "master race".
      4. +3
        23 January 2020 12: 09
        As for eugenics itself, the very goal of this science is the noble creation of a perfect person.

        In what sense is perfect? Conventionally, like a duck that knows how to swim, fly and walk at the same time, but does it all badly, or like a cheetah that knows how to survive well in the savannah?
        And honestly, this is fascism, the diversity of the population is a condition for survival when the environment changes (war is also a change in the environment, any crisis, change of formation, revolution, etc.), and eugenics suggests selecting only perfect people, apparently with the same qualities, and therefore, when changing the environment, the chance of extinction of the entire population is higher.
        1. -3
          23 January 2020 13: 17
          Quote: Bobrick
          In what sense is perfect? Conventionally, like a duck that knows how to swim, fly and walk at the same time, but does it all badly, or like a cheetah that knows how to survive well in the savannah?

          a criterion for the perfection of a person to begin with, a man should be handsome, and a woman should be pretty.
          The mankind created by their such brothers always goes forward, for example, all the carriers that modern Russia uses are made in the USSR. Despite the shortcomings of national policy, the society of the USSR nevertheless advanced. Now our society is degrading.

          Quote: Bobrick
          and eugenics suggests selecting only perfect people, apparently with the same qualities, and therefore, when the environment changes, the chance of the extinction of the entire population is higher.


          why on earth would a society of perfect people not adapt to change? Have you come up with? No, it’s not. Pay attention to the fact that many people have already paid attention to the number of lawyers in the country and in the whole world. This means only one thing, that the level of FALSE is over the top, therefore the army of lawyers and other jurisprudence is always growing. our society is a society of total lies.
          That's what we got to.
          1. -1
            23 January 2020 13: 46
            Quote: Bar2
            e.g. all media

            space carriers sorry
          2. +1
            23 January 2020 14: 01
            why on earth would a society of perfect people not adapt to change

            And therefore, it is not possible to adapt because they are perfect within the framework of certain well-defined conditions.
            Or find someone who can do anything (from songwriting to designing atomic reactors, with the Olympic champion in half of the sports, and so that genetics are perfect, and AIDS can not get sick, and malaria - that’s perfection) .
            The bird "kiwi", for example, is a perfect organism in the conditions of New Zealand, but when the dogs appeared, the bird somehow quickly almost died out.
            a criterion for the perfection of a person to begin with, a man should be handsome, and a woman should be pretty.

            And leave cuteness and goodness to animals, baboons, with a bright red seat, or deer, with large horns. And it’s worth keeping silent about human populations, there are lengthening heads and necks, tunnels in the lips of African tribes, and six toes of some Vyatka peoples, and all this is “pretty”.
            Why, perhaps, one purely human factor is not described is the invention of what did not exist before.
            Pay attention to the fact that many have already paid attention to the number of lawyers in the country and in general in the world. This means only one thing, that the level of Falsehood is going through the roof, so the army of lawyers and other jurisprudence is always growing. our society is a society of total lies.

            I just noticed that our society is becoming "ideal" - the number of performers who are not able to go beyond instructions and concepts is growing. Even "geniuses" in fiction (from "House Doctor" to "Sherlock") are portrayed as the ideal performer of their work.
            "The perfect worker for the perfect system!" So you can become ants.
            And not this garbage with a lie. Just lying to be beneficial to procreation.
            1. 0
              23 January 2020 14: 42
              Quote: Bobrick
              Or find someone who can do anything (from songwriting to designing nuclear reactors).


              the definition of perfection does not include the concept of universal.

              Quote: Bobrick
              And leave mercy and goodness to animals, baboons, with a bright red seat, or deer, with large horns.


              Well, if for you the seat and the horns are the criterion of goodness, then it is of course.
          3. +1
            23 January 2020 20: 45
            Quote: Bar2
            a criterion for the perfection of a person to begin with, a man should be handsome, and a woman should be pretty.

            Right! And the fact that they, with this unadulterated beauty, may well have "the brain of an adult canary, for two" (c) is the tenth thing ... But beautiful! Yes?lol
      5. 0
        7 February 2020 16: 52
        The goal of this science is eugenics, almost noble. Everyone, an absolutely perfect creation. If you do not think so, then you are not perfect either. For parents, their children (I mean the normal majority), regardless of any factor, is perfection. These children will also have perfect children. It's about education, not science.
        1. 0
          7 February 2020 17: 12
          Quote: Georgy Karpov
          every man, an absolutely perfect creation.


          are sick people perfect too?
    5. +1
      24 January 2020 13: 58
      Quote: rocket757
      He did it! ALL.

      He did not manage - the USSR was privatized by the Stalinist nomenclature after his departure. By the way, this is a lesson to us. Ahead is the transit of power.
      1. 0
        24 January 2020 14: 08
        Quote: iouris
        He did not manage - the USSR was privatized by the Stalinist nomenclature after his departure. By the way, this is a lesson to us. Ahead is the transit of power.

        There is such a jamb, this is a fact ... a system built on the personality of one leader requires the preparation of the right receiver, and so, letting this thing go by itself is a big mistake.
        No one is eternal, but no one wanted to die ... but to think, it is necessary to prepare ... did not prepare.
        Lesson, a lesson to all lessons.
        1. 0
          24 January 2020 14: 17
          Quote: rocket757
          getting ready ...

          Ka said the classic, the most interesting thing is that death is sudden. It follows from this that one must always be prepared.
          1. 0
            24 January 2020 14: 23
            But few prepare for THIS ... for various reasons.
  2. +10
    23 January 2020 05: 22
    the bearers of the "creative" genetic capital of the nation were not proletarians who gained power in the Soviets, but intellectuals
    .Yes, give free rein to these telligents, Svanidze and Gozmans alone will crawl around. angry (their people are always defective with the psychology of slaves) and only liberalists have genius.
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      1. -4
        23 January 2020 11: 16
        Quote: kalibr
        So what do you think? What took so long?

        Because the devastation in the heads. Therefore, for a long time. And for a certain part, and in general, it will work infinitely long.
      2. +5
        23 January 2020 11: 54
        Quote: kalibr
        I write to him - Why can't the people see clearly? And he told me "he gets his sight ...".

        The people of Ukraine heard you and received sight. What's next? You are so smart here, so tell us what the people of Ukraine, who have seen their sight, should do: first, second, third ...
        1. 0
          23 January 2020 17: 34
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          You are so smart here, so tell us what the people of Ukraine, who have seen their sight, should do: first, second, third ...

          so you are exactly the same !!!!! you yourself do not give any numbers, no facts, no actions
          you are exactly the same !!!!!!!!
          1. +2
            23 January 2020 17: 47
            Quote: NEOZ

            so you are exactly the same !!!!! you yourself do not give any numbers, no facts, no actions
            you are exactly the same !!!!!!!!

            Oh, well, I sent you, are you already back? What a fast you are!
    2. -5
      23 January 2020 11: 15
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      (their people are always defective with the psychology of slaves)

      Subtle, relict, with the psychology of slaves.
  3. +3
    23 January 2020 05: 26
    What eggheads just think of. But to make government decisions based on supposedly scientific theories is always risky and the result is not always justified.
    Man is too complex a creature. From the position of animal selection, he is not always suitable for him. Soveliev liked his sourcing.
    1. +1
      23 January 2020 21: 10
      Quote: apro
      Man is too complex a creature. From the position of animal selection, he is not always suitable for him. Soveliev liked his sourcing.

      If from the standpoint of artificial, man-made selection, then yes. And if you, suddenly, decide to extend this maxim to natural selection, then anthropologists, with a high degree of probability, will start hitting you, "and possibly even with their feet" (c)! laughing
  4. +10
    23 January 2020 05: 26
    Pundits were carriers of certain genes of genius or exclusivity, which could be used in the interests of "improving the human race."
    Yeah. But folk observations were somewhat different from the eugenic postulates: "Nature rests on the children of geniuses."
  5. +12
    23 January 2020 05: 35
    typical bolshevik woman Milda Grignau
    Yes, "primordial rusachka"
  6. +7
    23 January 2020 05: 40
    For some reason it is Stalin's intellectuals who do not like most of all. And in the most difficult conditions he did not just raise the country from ruins, but on absolutely new social, moral principles. Not "man to man is a wolf," but "man to man's brother." Something didn't work out. But in the end he really did it.
    1. +1
      23 January 2020 08: 22
      Quote: Van 16
      Something did not work out.

      And what didn’t work out?
      1. +5
        23 January 2020 11: 39
        I am not a historian, therefore it is simple and possibly tongue-tied.
        It did not work on time and how to prepare for the aggression of the Third Reich. The reasons are different, but it didn’t work out.
        It was not possible to discern the insignificance in Khrushchev, and to remove him from power in time. In general, it did not work to leave a successor, but it seems like a misfortune for everyone who has been in power for a long time, for some reason they think that they are eternal.
        In the 50s, it did not work out (or did not have time) to rebuild the system to the real "all power to the Soviets."
        Something like this. hi
        1. +2
          25 January 2020 10: 37
          Quote: Van 16
          It did not work on time and how to prepare for the aggression of the Third Reich.

          I do not agree. It turned out, but did not have time. And over the course of time, he, like no one else, has no power. I agree with everything else with a small amendment - in the 50s all the same - I did not have time.
  7. +3
    23 January 2020 06: 15
    That is, even in couples, the scientist offered to “inject” the genes of gifted and talented men, justifying this with the economic interests of the state.

    Can you imagine who would now live in the vastness of the USSR. Stalin IV would not have to organize Israel.
    And we all "cry" about "ruined genetics" in the USSR.
    Maybe this "ruined genetics" saved us from degeneration?
    1. +6
      23 January 2020 07: 04
      But there were no talented and gifted Russians, Ukrainians, Tatars, Buryats? lol
      1. +2
        23 January 2020 07: 07
        Quote: Krasnodar
        But there were no talented and gifted Russians, Ukrainians, Tatars, Buryats?

        I do not know a single talented Negro. laughing
        1. +8
          23 January 2020 07: 11
          ??
          Sport, pop, politics, show business?
          In the early 10's, the leading medical specialist in the treatment of lesions of the nervous system due to hematologic and oncological diseases was an Ethiopian living in the United States, and he is not the only intelligent representative of his race in medicine. For instance )).
          1. 0
            23 January 2020 07: 15
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Sport, pop, politics, show business?

            The scientist ... crying
            1. +4
              23 January 2020 07: 16
              Morgan Freeman plays scholars well)).
              1. +5
                23 January 2020 07: 18
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Morgan Freeman

                I don’t know this pretzel either. And anyway ... Leave me alone with your blacks! winked
                1. +7
                  23 January 2020 13: 30
                  Leave me alone with your blacks!

                  never! tongue prepare a notebook - you will write down the names! wink ah .. Bokassa! Remember there was such a "Emperor of the Central African Empire"? And when one of the Soviet specialists asked what was in his kitchen for suspicious meat, Bokassa smiled mysteriously, licked his lips and said: "Ah, this is .. This is .. sugar pork ... " feel drinks
                  1. +2
                    23 January 2020 19: 14
                    That "sugar pork", then "long pig". Humanity repeats itself in its passions.
                    1. +1
                      24 January 2020 20: 07
                      I’m still trying to get to the bottom of the true ban on pork in Judaism and, as a result, Islam.
                      1. +1
                        25 January 2020 06: 39
                        Proximity to humans in anatomical structure?

                        Lorenz once argued how easy it is to take the life of a mosquito or a monkey.
                      2. +1
                        25 January 2020 06: 57
                        I think from the prevention of cannibalism.
                      3. +1
                        25 January 2020 07: 12
                        This is a question - how close is the border - what is acceptable and what is taboo.

                        Plus, the religion and way of the Jews are more than regulated.
                      4. +1
                        25 January 2020 07: 24
                        Perhaps the issue was so acute that declaring a pig an "unclean" animal turned out to be the most effective method.

                        Plus, the religion and way of the Jews are more than regulated.
                        Maybe this is what allowed them to survive.
                      5. +1
                        25 January 2020 07: 30
                        Sacrifices to Moloch?
                      6. +1
                        25 January 2020 07: 51
                        No, the regulation of life, as a guarantee of the preservation of ethnic identity.
              2. +7
                23 January 2020 07: 45
                And the villains. By the way, if I’m not mistaken, success came to him at a respectable age.
                1. +4
                  23 January 2020 08: 45
                  Hi dear hi
                  Long time no see!
                  At a young age, his appearance was unpresentable for the roles of cunning intellectuals))
                  1. +2
                    23 January 2020 08: 51
                    Hi Albert! How's the family?
                    1. +3
                      23 January 2020 13: 56
                      Normul - only the nanny is a terrible thing. Everyone cries that there is no work, but when it is, they begin to whimper, that it is too heavy, but somewhere they pay more, etc. )))
                      1. +3
                        23 January 2020 14: 33
                        Somewhere, they also rub the sausage with alcohol for money.
                      2. +4
                        23 January 2020 14: 38
                        Well yes. Yesterday, my wife and I were left without a nanny with 4 - trash, I tell you laughing Well, elder, okay, you can’t see and hear him, they kept the twins until 16:00 in the kindergarten, and after 4, the furry White animal laughing
                      3. +3
                        23 January 2020 15: 10
                        Swam - we know wassat
                      4. +4
                        23 January 2020 21: 57
                        Quote: 3x3zsave

                        Somewhere, they also rub the sausage with alcohol for money.

                        This is where, now, such blessed places ?! I remember about 1989-90, for us at 05 laboratory 104 department of the Design Bureau of the Tashkent "Electrolamp" (quotes are mine) of the "Photon" plant, for cleaning equipment, for 8 people (of which 3 do not drink at all), weekly, every Friday, were allocated 1,2 liters of "technical" wheat alcohol ... Ah, youth, youth ... crying
                      5. +1
                        25 January 2020 10: 52
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        she is, they begin to whimper, which is too heavy, but somewhere they pay more, etc. )))

                        So do not be greedy, pay more. And there will be no flow. If you need a nanny for your children, pay her enough to have enough for clothes, shoes, food, utilities. Those. twice the minimum living standard of living. Yes, do not forget to give her a monthly paid vacation. By the way, medical services, if that, is also at your expense. No? Then wipe the asses of your kids yourself.
                      6. +3
                        25 January 2020 11: 01
                        Is 35 thousand a month enough? )))
                      7. +1
                        25 January 2020 11: 08
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Is 35 thousand a month enough? )))

                        Question to the nanny. From her and the answer.
                      8. +4
                        25 January 2020 11: 12
                        What if the nanny wants to dress from Dolce & Gabbana and put on shoes in Jimi Chu? laughing And who made a march with me on a comrade who is with you on me?
                      9. +1
                        25 January 2020 12: 31
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        What if the nanny wants to dress from Dolce & Gabbana and put on shoes in Jimi Chu?

                        So you invited a photo model to the nanny position? Having secret thoughts? Naughty however. wink And how did your wife react to this? You may not answer the last question. And so it is clear. Your wife did not allow you to pay your protégé more than 35 thousand, and the protégé did not agree to work for this reward. Moreover, you did not promise to pay for additional services. So why did you cry here? Advice, free - hire a grandmother. I think she will agree to this amount. And the wife will be calm. Or not?
                      10. +3
                        25 January 2020 13: 02
                        Grandmother will not help - twins 2 g and 10 months - she will not steal from them. Models won't do such work a priori, but about needs - 35 thousand. Salary around the edge is quite normal.
                      11. +1
                        25 January 2020 14: 08
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Models won't do such work a priori, but about needs - 35 thousand. Salary around the edge is quite normal.

                        For one child. And for two? We must add, do not be stingy.
                      12. +3
                        25 January 2020 14: 28
                        Let them feel in Russia laughing Work and so do not hit the recumbent. Once walk, feed three times, bathe. And so the day. The next day rest. Watch. Full board.
                      13. +1
                        25 January 2020 18: 21
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Work and so do not hit the recumbent.

                        Well, the spouse will cope with your help. What's the matter. Most parents do just that. In addition, the mother's maternity has not yet ended. And there is a kindergarten. Or are your kids special? May they grow healthy and be happy.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Let them feel in Russia

                        So are they also migrant workers? I do not like this word.
                      14. +4
                        25 January 2020 18: 25
                        There is a kindergarten - four children
                        Younger 10 months
                        Senior - this year 14))
                        Not - part local, Kuban
                        Was Ukrainian - quickly faded
                        There were Far Eastern women - these were cool, but dumped in Moscow - and one after another. As a result - one nanny stayed - the rest come and garbage begins - but somewhere they pay more, but work to break, etc.
                      15. +1
                        25 January 2020 19: 22
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Senior - this year 14))

                        Well, okay. I was 6 when I was left with my younger brother, 2 years old, for the whole day while my parents were at work. So, feed, wipe your ass, put to bed, etc., and so on 6 days a week.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Was Ukrainian - quickly faded
                        There were Far Eastern women - these were cool, but dumped in Moscow

                        Well, right, in Moscow they pay more for the same work. I have a friend - Ukrainian, she’s been in Moscow since 94, all the time as a nanny. She worked in 3 families. After a long family of tears, the older children scoffed, insulted, and left. They left her from another - the children grew up, recently left a third, she says - they don’t pay for 4 months, they only promise. Now works in the 4th family. During this time, I bought two kopecks in the Moscow region. son and daughter. Near the apartment in Ukraine. These are the salaries of nannies in Moscow.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        There is a kindergarten - four children

                        Well, all that remains is hi
                      16. +4
                        25 January 2020 20: 08
                        So he studies)). Older. And the youngest 10 months
                        In Moscow - with my friends:
                        nannies pay 90 thousand, work 14-16 hours a day, two days off a week. Others - 60 thousand - with accommodation, one day off per week, 12 hours a day. Moscow region - 80 thousand with accommodation. We still have 3-4 days off, the prices in Krasnodar are different - for Apartments, rent, travel, etc.
                        For now, let's see a couple of years - adopt / adopt another / one. If there will be forces, etc. laughing As for those who insult the staff - they have come to an end!
              3. 0
                23 January 2020 08: 15
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Morgan Freeman plays scholars well)).

                He is a Jew.
        2. +2
          23 January 2020 07: 56
          Charles Richard Drew is the first blood bank in the world. Developed a transfusion and storage system. it has saved and still saves millions of lives. statistics say that every third person will sooner or later face this. these scales are such that we can assume that it saved humanity.
          1. 0
            23 January 2020 08: 04
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Charles Richard Drew is the first blood bank in the world. Developed a transfusion and storage system.

            And the blood of blacks was stored separately from the blood of white people. sad
            1. +1
              23 January 2020 09: 16
              but how does this change the fact that this person created?
              1. -1
                23 January 2020 09: 28
                No way, in principle.
        3. -1
          23 January 2020 13: 28
          I do not know a single talented Negro.

          what about mackle jackson? stop Offend, Vladimir! drinks He is so - MOG! good And now you can compare this masterpiece of a foreign performer with modern Russian pop .... negative
          1. +6
            23 January 2020 13: 37
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            what about mackle jackson?

            So he constantly transplanted his skin, wanted to become a white man.
            1. +4
              23 January 2020 13: 38
              So he constantly transplanted his skin, wanted to become a white man.

              yeah, and drank milk. And took a bath of bleach laughing
              1. +3
                23 January 2020 13: 46
                Quote: Pane Kohanku
                And took a bath of bleach

                Not in the know ... But I won’t be surprised if it was so. recourse
      2. +2
        23 January 2020 08: 15
        All who are as one Jews.
        1. +3
          23 January 2020 09: 11
          With Evenki impurities.
          1. +2
            23 January 2020 13: 36
            With Evenki impurities.

            I recall Lenny Kravitz - dad a Jew, mother of a black woman. And he turned out - smart, beautiful, talented! laughing drinks
            1. +2
              23 January 2020 13: 57
              Wuppy Goldberg is a beauty - so it is not, but smart and talented)).
              1. +2
                23 January 2020 14: 24
                Wuppy Goldberg is a beauty - so it is not, but smart and talented)).

                So we went to the cinema with mine in October. To show an English performance. The British play Wilde, "The Importance of Being Earnest," on stage in 2018, and we are shown a tape of the action. There is no voice translation, only subtitles. wink By the way, I already told our Anton 3x3zsave about this. drinks
                this performance, the trailer below:
                https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/1190191/
                The question is that one of the artists playing english nobleman (the end of the XIX century, nevertheless, according to the plot!) - hmm .. Afro-Englishman! laughing at first it was really funny, but after about twenty minutes you really begin to perceive it as a full-fledged character, regardless of skin color! Yes, and he played - great! good drinks
                1. +3
                  23 January 2020 14: 35
                  They have a lot of talented people, but the cunning ones are something with something)). I'm talking about African - not about European or American blacks. I worked with them a couple of times - I was glad that I flew only three pennies laughing
                  1. +2
                    23 January 2020 14: 40
                    They have a lot of talented people, but the cunning ones are something with something.

                    if Victor Nikolayevich (Undecimat) comes to the forum, you can ask him about the experience of working with Africans. I think he also has something to tell! drinks
                    1. +3
                      23 January 2020 14: 43
                      I’ll ask you for sure - I had it this way - canceling the transaction 15 minutes before signing the contract in one case, people disappeared with money in another, the contract was signed, after which there was no prepayment - in the third laughing
                      1. +3
                        23 January 2020 14: 51
                        people disappeared with money in another

                        this happens with us! laughing
                      2. +2
                        23 January 2020 15: 04
                        Yes, everywhere - but I didn’t succeed with them at all, including a very small clientele, arriving through me for treatment in Israel. )) Very cunning people.
                      3. +4
                        23 January 2020 15: 11
                        Very cunning people.

                        The people who went to Israel were very cunning? laughing
                        Yes, everywhere - but I didn’t succeed with them at all, including a very small clientele, arriving through me for treatment in Israel.

                        It’s sad to joke: now it’s clear why the British were solving all the questions with the natives through the fire of Maxim gunboats and machine guns - so that they wouldn’t get loose! request
                        So, somehow I tried Shaka Zulu to break the deal ... And the white collectors in red uniforms came to him for the penalty ... what
                      4. +3
                        23 January 2020 15: 35
                        That's right - and their trick in Israel looked transparent and very primitive)).
                        Oh well it in FIG - colonialism - cheap raw materials past the market and so will not pass
  8. +4
    23 January 2020 06: 57
    Prince Peter A. Kropotkin wrote in connection with this event:

    “Who is considered unsuitable? Workers or loafers? Women from the people who are independently feeding their children, or ladies of the upper world who are not fit for motherhood because of their inability to fulfill all the duties of the mother?

    In, in. Who was this figure himself?
    Anarchist stole me
    Short fur coat aunt.
    Ah, he taught him that
    Mr. Kropotkin?
    1. -1
      23 January 2020 10: 51
      It depends on what is considered useful. It depends on what you need to adapt.
      Both those who think and those who wave a shovel are needed. Oddly enough, they have different skills and even intellectual abilities.
  9. +4
    23 January 2020 07: 02
    As for medical genetics, it was in vain - now we are catching up with the West again.
    1. -4
      23 January 2020 10: 54
      They have their own dogmas. "Being determines consciousness." Therefore, the communists cannot have any genetics, only "being" that will bring out a new person, a Soviet.
      They even tried using this method with the help of comrade Lysenko with plants.
      Did not work out.
      1. +2
        25 January 2020 11: 01
        Quote: Mestny
        They even tried using this method with the help of comrade Lysenko with plants.

        You first learn what Lysenko was doing, and then get smart.
  10. 0
    23 January 2020 07: 42
    It is interesting when our “engines” of demography come up with compulsory (I do not write artificial) insemination in the appendage to the capital?
    1. 0
      23 January 2020 08: 05
      Quote: sergo1914
      It’s interesting when our “engines” of demography come up with forced (I do not write artificial) insemination

      This work is beyond their power, they are old all basically. And in general, why produce competitors?
      1. +1
        23 January 2020 09: 03
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: sergo1914
        It’s interesting when our “engines” of demography come up with forced (I do not write artificial) insemination

        This work is beyond their power, they are old all basically. And in general, why produce competitors?


        Purely technical
        1) means of mechanization
        2) special tablets
        Well this is for the country
      2. -2
        23 January 2020 10: 55
        And what will be the competition? So it turns out eugenics were right? So your way?
        1. +1
          23 January 2020 14: 00
          Quote: Mestny
          So it turns out eugenics were right? So your way?

          No idea. But I do not know what to pay alimony for, I think no one would want to. Let the evil Avanes pay.
  11. +4
    23 January 2020 07: 54
    Heredity certainly affects a person, his behavior and condition, but it is not a determining factor. Man is free, and in his power (or, in the absence of desire) to change the situation.
    The question is who offers what, and some ways of solving the problem (of past years) indicated in the article, to put it mildly, not entirely human solutions.
    And, now we are witnessing some inhuman experiments in this area - surrogacy, euthanasia.
    We also observe some colorful specimens, such as the escort girl Vodonaeva and others.
    1. -1
      23 January 2020 09: 10
      Quote: bober1982

      And, now we are witnessing some inhuman experiments in this area - surrogacy, euthanasia.
      We also observe some colorful specimens, such as the escort girl Vodonaeva and others.

      This “excursionist” raised so much money for the treatment of Russian children abroad that it was just right for her to hand out presidential awards along with doctors.
      And what is wrong with surrogacy?
      1. -1
        23 January 2020 09: 13
        Quote: Krasnodar
        And what is wrong with surrogacy?

        Heredity will be bad, cartilage .......... and, brain cancer, premature.
        1. +4
          23 January 2020 10: 58
          Nonsense - all studies on IVF, ICSI, surrogacy and others did not reveal an increase in the incidence of cancer among children born by such methods compared with the rest of the population. As for brain cancer (and this is just a couple of tumors with such a gradation) - relative to other malignant diseases it is very rare in general.
          1. +2
            23 January 2020 11: 12
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Stupidity

            What are these nonsense, is it possible to artificially intrude into the mystical realm, let's call it so as not to annoy.
            1. +1
              23 January 2020 11: 35
              Quote: bober1982
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Stupidity

              What are these nonsense, is it possible to artificially intrude into the mystical realm, let's call it so as not to annoy.

              This has long been no mysticism, Gd gave man reason to comprehend the processes of functioning of the world. In addition, the first commandment to the adherents of the Abramist religions, given by the Higher Mind, was "be fruitful and multiply." In many faiths, artificially overcoming the limitations of the body of parents on paperwork is considered a boon. hi
              1. -1
                23 January 2020 11: 59
                Quote: Krasnodar
                “Multiply and multiply”

                You, as a TV presenter, Kiselev spoke - and, he was trying to interpret the same gullible television audience.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Gd gave man reason to comprehend the processes of functioning of the world

                For Adam and Eve, this very process of comprehending the world went too far; they crossed the red line. The result is known, absolutely all descendants began to strain strongly.
                And, my respect for you.
                1. +5
                  23 January 2020 12: 12
                  I believed him - made 4. Che, in vain? laughing wink
                  As for Adam and Eve, we are not theologians.
                  And I'm also a Jew who does not believe in original sin)).
    2. -4
      23 January 2020 10: 57
      Quote: bober1982
      Heredity certainly affects a person, his behavior and condition, but it is not a determining factor. Man is free, and in his power (or, in the absence of desire) to change the situation.

      Those who have been working in education for many years will not agree with you.
      Very, very often, almost always, no upbringing helps, or helps for a while.
      This spring is simply compressed inside, and then, maybe years later, it will certainly shoot.
      If a person is a thief from birth, he will still steal. If he is a coward, he will not become bold. Only imitation.
      1. +5
        23 January 2020 11: 06
        Not always. Although ... if a coward is afraid of his sergeant, say, more than his enemy, you will see on his part miracles of courage. )))
      2. +3
        23 January 2020 11: 10
        Quote: Mestny
        If a person is a thief from birth, he will still steal. If he is a coward, he will not become bold

        What the translation means (from biblical times) - a good tree bears good fruit, a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
        You have to fight yourself (with your passions), including the education workers themselves.
        1. -2
          23 January 2020 13: 25
          This biblical statement is not in the sense of genetics, of course, but in the sense of education. What one person can give to another.
          And if it is genetics - how many people, in spite of any monstrous conditions, have become outstanding, respected by many generations.
          And how much the other way round, in spite of any upbringing, they became the last scum.
          1. +1
            23 January 2020 13: 44
            Quote: Mestny
            despite any upbringing

            A lot depends on the external environment, in any army, by the way, a healthy environment, barracks and army orders can correct something, but it is not a determining factor either. Everything in the sum should be, well, and somehow climb.
      3. +2
        23 January 2020 11: 41
        Quote: Mestny
        If a person is a thief from birth, he will still steal. If he is a coward, he will not become bold. Only imitation.

        I agree to all 100%. Grandfather was a teacher for 50 years, his mother a teacher in regular and sun-school for 50 years. I worked in a regular school and in the sun for 32 years, I saw a bunch of children and ... that's the way it is.
      4. +2
        23 January 2020 23: 36
        Oh, catch eugenics!
        Honestly, I have not heard more delirium.
        History knows just a huge number of examples when children from families of drunkards, bandits and other 'asocial elements' have quite taken place as educated, intelligent, talented adults with families.
        And exactly the opposite - it was quite for themselves that the children of successful "businessmen", academicians, professors, statesmen, high military leaders and other "Elite" were diving like a stone to the bottom of their lives.
  12. -4
    23 January 2020 08: 25
    Stalin, and could not deal differently with all eugenics experimenters, all these suggestions and letters to him, were certainly very naive.
    According to communist theory, the creation of a new type of people was a crucial task, but this task was solved by radical and coercive measures.
  13. -5
    23 January 2020 08: 42
    On this occasion, there is an opinion that in the coming decades there will be a need for genetic adjustments for children, not for some genius, because you still need to find it, it’s too simple to talk about it through the prism of heredity, but just to make everyone a freak the second was not born.
    1. +2
      23 January 2020 17: 59
      Quote: EvilLion
      On this occasion, there is such an opinion

      Watch the Gattack movie. hi
  14. +4
    23 January 2020 09: 23
    ANY theory can be perverted and put at the service of nonhumans.
  15. -3
    23 January 2020 10: 17
    Being a convinced member of the Communist Party, Milda approaches this desire in accordance with the party’s instructions - scientifically. She doesn't think neither love nor marriage she just wants to find the right father for her unborn baby and convince him impregnate her.

    Just an animal. Without the slightest admixture of the human ... request
    1. -3
      23 January 2020 10: 59
      This is a reflection of communist ideology at the dawn of the USSR.
      That is exactly what the victors spoke about all the others.
      "And instead of hands, shovels, and instead of a heart, a fiery motor."
  16. +6
    23 January 2020 11: 08
    I read the article and the first fifty comments.
    Your position has pleased you, colleagues, mostly people still condemn eugenics, so the country still has hope for a happy future. smile
    My personal opinion is that medicine should certainly work on improving the human nature, but not in the field of genetics, but in the field of creating, for example, various vaccinations that cause immunity from everything, accelerate tissue regeneration, and possibly slow down aging ...
    But eugenics - any - in my opinion, is immoral in nature. If someone is given artificial advantages in breeding, then someone needs to be artificially limited in this, and that means someone has to decide who exactly. Honestly - I myself would not have taken it and would not have trusted anyone else.
    PS
    In his youth he loved the film "Gemini" with Schwarzenegger and De Vito. smile
    1. +3
      23 January 2020 18: 06
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      Well, eugenics - any - in my opinion, is immoral in nature

      And what is morality if you look at it impartially and globally? I heard a story that even during the Union, in a remote Tajik village, the mother strangled a newborn child with defects, because if in the village they knew that she was born, not one of her children would marry either in this village or in the neighboring .
      This is me to the question of morality - how from a moral point of view will deprivation of their older children be considered a family and procreation?
  17. +4
    23 January 2020 11: 58
    It smacks of absurdity and peculiar promiscuity, doesn't it? So the Soviet censorship made it clear to the playwright Tretyakov and director Meyerhold, who wanted to put "I want a child" on the stage, which was unacceptable. In 1929, the play was banned for staging in theaters - just the case when censorship turned out to be good. And in 1937, Tretyakov was shot, however, not for the play.

    Nonsense, it seems that a certain part of the public after the revolution just went crazy. Is it any wonder that "creations" like "I Want a Child" came out from under the pen, if before that in one of the cities of Russia the Council of People's Commissars issued a decree on "Socializing Women." Complete nonsense.
    By the way, Meyerhold didn’t survive Comrade Tretyakov’s. request
    1. -4
      23 January 2020 14: 32
      Quote: Sea Cat
      it feels like a certain part of the public after the revolution just went crazy

      Nobody went crazy, everything was carefully thought out, thus they fought against the priest's "prejudices"
      1. -1
        23 January 2020 18: 24
        So, do you think that in some Mukhoska, I do not remember the name of the city, those who held power from the council of "workers and peasants" decided exactly what to fight against "clericalism"? God forbid, they just wanted to have women who were simply not available to them before! Everything is on a simple and animal level: "Rob the loot" and fuck women who haven't seen you before.
        And these "thoughtful" ones fought exclusively among themselves, and, as a result, Stalin came to power, who successfully cut out these "thoughtful" ones. laughing
        1. 0
          23 January 2020 19: 34
          Quote: Sea Cat
          that in some Mukhoska, I don't remember the name of the city, those who held power from the council of "workers and peasants" decided exactly what to fight against "priesthood"?

          They were allowed - Down with shame! And, what's the difference in this case, the Sovdep, peasants or royal blood, everyone has the same lust, since the creation of the world, including 100% of those present here. It's very hard to fight, or you don't want to, and they "played" on this, the valve was opened.
          Quote: Sea Cat
          and, as a result, Stalin came to power, who safely cut out these "thoughtful" ones.

          Stalin, of course, was a man of old moral principles, and all these satanist creeps immediately stopped when he received real power.
          1. -2
            23 January 2020 22: 08
            They were allowed - Down with shame!

            Exactly, just give the cattle the opportunity to smell freedom - not much will seem.
    2. VLR
      0
      25 January 2020 08: 28
      During the years of Perestroika, by the way, the story "A Child by November" was published (and a film based on it was filmed), where a lonely heroine chooses a partner for a long time to give birth to a child. An ideal man, in her opinion, should be an intelligent male with a good "conformation".
      The saddest thing is
      not delirium, and not a comedy of the absurd: it is not such a rare situation in our world of single women and infantile men. This is such a "folk eugenics".
  18. +2
    23 January 2020 11: 58
    Precisely because scientific approaches in genetics were hacked to death with all sorts of moronic ideas about "race purity" and eugenic nonsense, and they had to burn it out. Unfortunately, as usually happens, it was not possible to stop in time and real science, which could bring great benefits, was thrown in development for decades. But Stalin acted tactically correctly, it was impossible to leave this obscurantism growing.
  19. +3
    23 January 2020 12: 55
    Until the discovery in 1953 of the structure of DNA (a method of encoding and transmitting hereditary traits), genetics was an art, not a science. Therefore, it was possible the existence of such teachings as eugenics with the proposal to use the experience of breeding new breeds of animals for the directed development of the human species.

    With the recent birth in China of twin girls with "tweaked" DNA (for protection against certain types of diseases), modern eugenics cannot be stopped.
  20. -1
    23 January 2020 22: 51
    First, respect to the author! He opened a page of history (at least for me personally), thanks to which a lot became clear ... All of us read textbooks, especially on special disciplines, where the names of people who made something significant and breakthrough for this science often flashed in the opening remarks. And it was always unclear to me why the authorities in the USSR constantly "put a spoke in the wheel" to geneticists and plant breeders, and the opinion was formed from those books just like that. But it turns out "this is where the dog rummaged" ... As history once again shows that the brake is not the power, but a small group of especially stubborn degenerates who, in an attempt to bring a generally sensible idea to the point of absurdity, are laying a mine for other branches of science!
  21. +3
    23 January 2020 23: 17
    Quote: Dmitry Igorevich
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Creating a "perfect man"? Are you seriously? And who is he, "perfect man"?

    Soviet man, in the opinion of the Soviet people, is perfection.
    They generally have their own ideas about perfection. Humility (power), brainlessness, aggressiveness (on command), lack of education - these are just a few of the hallmarks of Soviet excellence.

    The answer.
    Shamelessness, cunning, hypocrisy, aggressiveness, selfishness, education in a purely narrow sphere. Here it is Western perfection.
    It is these and only such qualities that accompany 'success'; the more pronounced they are, the better.
  22. +2
    23 January 2020 23: 27
    Quote: Krasnodar
    ??
    Sport, pop, politics, show business?
    In the early 10's, the leading medical specialist in the treatment of lesions of the nervous system due to hematologic and oncological diseases was an Ethiopian living in the United States, and he is not the only intelligent representative of his race in medicine. For instance )).

    Sports / pop / politics / 'business' are not very involved in technological development.
    We will be honest, at least in front of our own. Without sports, pop and show business, humanity will live and will develop perfectly, and maybe even more rapidly.
    For a significant part of the waste of material resources will be eliminated for, in fact, parasitic phenomena in society that are not useful.
    1. 0
      23 January 2020 23: 54
      Unfortunately, humanity cannot exist only on the technological branch of development. In theory, this is certainly wonderful - science, technology, a leap forward - to the stars! A beautiful utopia, very much. But it will remain a utopia. Eating, having sex, relaxing on the beach, watching movies - strangely enough, everyone wants to, regardless of race and education. Basic (animal) psychological "Wishlist" - they just are! Take this as an axiom, yes, upbringing can make a person give up a lot, but sooner or later this animal will still shoot - only the result will be more destructive. And yet, yes! How do you feel about creative people, artists - poets - musicians, etc. Let's exterminate them! ;) They are of no practical use! Why feed the freeloaders! ;))) But, the most important thing - ask yourself only one question - you, but PERSONALLY YOU are ready - to stand all your life from morning till night at the machine, grinding nuts, breaks only for eating and sleeping. Everything .... 365 days a year, no holidays or weekends .... Only work ... "Arbeit macht frei" ...
  23. +2
    23 January 2020 23: 47
    Quote: Mestny
    This biblical statement is not in the sense of genetics, of course, but in the sense of education. What one person can give to another.
    And if it is genetics - how many people, in spite of any monstrous conditions, have become outstanding, respected by many generations.
    And how much the other way round, in spite of any upbringing, they became the last scum.

    at least it came all the same.
    Quote: Olgovich
    Being a convinced member of the Communist Party, Milda approaches this desire in accordance with the party’s instructions - scientifically. She doesn't think neither love nor marriage she just wants to find the right father for her unborn baby and convince him impregnate her.

    Just an animal. Without the slightest admixture of the human ... request

    So look at the marriage between the offspring of the "high society", the same oligarchs and other Ilita.
    Actually the same bestial conditions as dogs for breeding.
    In past centuries, this approach has failed many times, the Habsburg degenerates are the clearest example.
  24. 0
    24 January 2020 14: 06
    The main thing to know is that all Western practice is built on the idea of ​​social Darwinism, which implies artificial selection and destruction of what is regarded as ineffective. So the practice of Nazi Germany is only one of the options for the implementation of these ideas and this practice. These ideas themselves live and win, so when we or someone else is credited with poor performance or inefficiency, it's a very bad sign. Perhaps, new technologies of "final solution to the problem" are already being designed.
  25. 0
    29 January 2020 00: 12
    Quote: Wolga
    Unfortunately, humanity cannot exist only on the technological branch of development. In theory, this is certainly wonderful - science, technology, a leap forward - to the stars! A beautiful utopia, very much. But it will remain a utopia. Eating, having sex, relaxing on the beach, watching movies - strangely enough, everyone wants to, regardless of race and education. Basic (animal) psychological "Wishlist" - they just are! Take this as an axiom, yes, upbringing can make a person give up a lot, but sooner or later this animal will still shoot - only the result will be more destructive. And yet, yes! How do you feel about creative people, artists - poets - musicians, etc. Let's exterminate them! ;) They are of no practical use! Why feed the freeloaders! ;))) But, the most important thing - ask yourself only one question - you, but PERSONALLY YOU are ready - to stand all your life from morning till night at the machine, grinding nuts, breaks only for eating and sleeping. Everything .... 365 days a year, no holidays or weekends .... Only work ... "Arbeit macht frei" ...

    No need to associate your "animal wishes" with other people.
    A man and a MAN, in order to discard such denseness, otherwise it is CATT.
    Although ... Yes, I've seen enough cattle, and I still see it.
    Which does not mean that you should give up.
    PS When I was born, I wasn’t drawn to beaches, resorts, wandering around, gawking at TV series and shows, playing trick-or-treating (well, other attributes of "life is good" -Skotov) and allergies too.
    Something like this.
  26. 0
    15 March 2020 23: 30
    "Heart of a Dog" - from the same series ...

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