An original approach: “who will be fired from the Cabinet,” foreign and liberal Russian media know

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In the original vein, a list of candidates for ministerial portfolios in the new government and information on resignations is being formed. If the resignation of Dmitry Medvedev took place overnight - without any insider prologues, then the appointment of new ministers (with the exception of Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin) is very different.

Today, in the morning, publications began to appear that such and such a person would allegedly leave the composition of the government - and all with reference to unnamed, but "very authoritative" sources.



Particular attention is paid to publications of a similar nature in the foreign press. So, Bloomberg suddenly announced that Anton Siluanov would lose the portfolio of the deputy chairman of the government in the new cabinet and retain the post of head of the Ministry of Finance. Blumberg is referred to three unnamed sources. In such a situation, the question arises: what kind of sources do Bloomberg have that are related to the activities of the government, moreover, they are connected in such a way that they merge information into foreign publications first of all. If this is not idle speculation about the new posts of Siluanov, then the question is not at all idle.

Then, the Russian editions (which is noteworthy, most often of the liberal sense) undertook to publish data on "who will be removed from ministerial posts." In RBC, they said that Veronika Skvortsova, who was in charge of healthcare in the government, would lose his post. The same publication, citing unnamed sources, writes that Vitaly Mutko (acting deputy chairman of the government) and Olga Vasilyeva (head of the Ministry of Education) will lose their ministerial portfolios.

Thus, the situation with the formation of the new Cabinet turns into a media show, in which the data is first passed through certain media, and only then they will be officially announced. The whole problem is that the media, even if the published information as a result will have nothing to do with reality, will still not be held responsible. If everything written about the withdrawals is true, then next time we’ll hear about “authoritative experts” and “reliable sources on the sidelines of the government”.
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  1. +10
    21 January 2020 17: 53
    No one will be fired, everyone will be promoted. And the "ministerial" pensioners "will go to the capitalist hell" (Paris, London, Miami, etc.) ... "They deserve it."
    1. -19
      21 January 2020 18: 02
      And why?
      Putin so inappropriately changed the government BEFORE this summit in Berlin that the new prime minister did not have time to agree on a candidacy. After all, he could have changed it AFTER the summit ...
      Now there is an idiotic (not to be called in another way) accustoming of the electorate that the most reliable information will come only from the West.
      No words - 20 years to seize control of the manipulation of the people of Russia from the West, and so ineptly merge the fruits of these works ....
    2. +13
      21 January 2020 18: 05
      "No one will be fired"
      After all, the president's entourage is something else: for example, Nabiullina said at one time that the Russian people should not participate in a referendum on pension reform, they say: "the people do not have the necessary knowledge ..." It turns out that athletes, actors , singers and musicians, acrobats and jesters from EdRa who voted for the reform that reared the whole country on their hind legs, have knowledge, but the people do not! They think of us as imbitsil ... This is an indicator of the attitude towards our people. then react to the growing discontent. Putin said that now the government will be formed in a different way, that he is not responsible for ministers, and the prime minister with the State Duma. How beautiful ...It's all the boyars to blame.
      1. +3
        21 January 2020 18: 16
        And you do not believe her, it’s not without reason that she has the surname Nae .. Ulina
      2. +1
        21 January 2020 19: 23
        Well, then Nabiulina herself is like a cork. A bunch of accountants in the country who understand where the loot comes from in the PF and how it is formed.
        1. +1
          22 January 2020 15: 40
          Slightly off topic. There is an extremely small contingent of specialists in the Central Bank who really understand how the system works. I will not poke a finger with anyone, but there is. And by no means, n .. Bulina. She is for another. Like mu .. to and others like them.
          1. 0
            22 January 2020 18: 38
            Well, does she have an economic education? Why does she think that the rest of the people with economic education are stupid people? The system is there .... like a calculator. Quality and quantity and everything. And the threshold for collection.
    3. 0
      21 January 2020 21: 11
      Oreshkin was fired, Topilin identity and then bread :))
      1. +4
        21 January 2020 21: 23
        Quote: den3080
        Oreshkin was fired, Topilin identity and then bread :))

        From the previous government, 9 people were replaced and one ministry "MinSevKavkaz" was eliminated, the rest were left in Mishustin's cage. And yet, yes, Siluanov lost his portfolio as deputy government representative and was left with one - the Ministry of Finance. hi
        1. +2
          21 January 2020 21: 40
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          From the previous government, 9 people were replaced and one ministry "MinSevKavkaz" was eliminated, the rest were left in Mishustin's cage.

          But Mutko led the investment fund.
          1. +7
            21 January 2020 22: 43
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            From the previous government, 9 people were replaced and one ministry "MinSevKavkaz" was eliminated, the rest were left in Mishustin's cage.

            But Mutko led the investment fund.

            Kirdyk Fund request
  2. +6
    21 January 2020 17: 54
    Not surprising. Characters from the liberal government merge insider information to their liberal partners from the media .. As well as other information .. Selling in one word
    1. +7
      21 January 2020 18: 06
      Quote: Invoce
      As well as other information ..

      Crimea - snow on his head, no one knew. Loved.
      The resignation of the government is the same. Loved too.
      Events of course are of a different order, but neither one nor the other could not have happened without preparation. Everyone knew everything only from the TV.
      1. AUL
        +2
        21 January 2020 18: 27
        And you noticed such a momentous fact. In the first couple of days everyone was racking their brains, who would be appointed new ministers, and now everyone is thinking, but who will still be kicked out of the old ones? what
        1. +2
          21 January 2020 18: 33
          Quote from AUL
          And you noticed such a momentous fact.

          No. Shoigu and Lavrov, I think, will remain. The rest is variable.
          1. +3
            21 January 2020 19: 58
            Quote: Gray Brother
            No. Shoigu and Lavrov, I think, will remain. The rest is variable

            Novak, Manturov, s / s ... Siluanova and Oreshkina - on ...!
            1. +2
              21 January 2020 20: 43
              But most of the "oldies" have been replaced ...
              It remains to wait for decisions on the State Bank and the Account tent.
        2. +1
          21 January 2020 18: 44
          Will fly out most likely. those who were criticized by the deputies and who simply did not receive the "invitation".
        3. +2
          21 January 2020 21: 44
          Quote from AUL
          And you noticed such a momentous fact. In the first couple of days everyone was racking their brains, who would be appointed new ministers,

          They all puzzled? laughing Yes, the majority of the population is deeply purple, who will be given a place in the sun. . The Kremlin games are more interested in world sharks, and those who champs from a feeding trough called Russia. hi hi
      2. +1
        21 January 2020 20: 16
        Bloomberg clings to Siluanov, so to speak, "strongly recommends" ... Even the release was organized-interference in internal affairs.
        1. 0
          22 January 2020 13: 53
          Well, Bloomberg guessed about Siluanov. The guarantor caved in under "interference in internal affairs", so what, it turns out?
          1. +1
            22 January 2020 14: 18
            I believe Siluanova will still be expelled from the Ministry of Finance in 2020.
            1. 0
              22 January 2020 14: 30
              So is the guarantor bent or not?
              1. +1
                22 January 2020 14: 36
                Incorrect formulation of the question ...
                1. 0
                  22 January 2020 14: 44
                  Why? You said: there was interference in internal affairs. Your words, not mine. You can either succumb to it or not succumb to it. So? Which of the two options happened?
                  1. +1
                    22 January 2020 14: 48
                    Neither one nor the other, more than two options.
                    1. 0
                      22 January 2020 14: 49
                      If one option is a denial of the other, then there are only two options. These are the basics of logic. Called https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusion_ Third Law
                      1. +1
                        22 January 2020 14: 50
                        Siluanov is no longer deputy prime minister.
                      2. 0
                        22 January 2020 14: 51
                        Well, Bloomberg said that it would be so.
                      3. +1
                        22 January 2020 14: 53
                        And about the resignation of the Medvedev government, missed something? About constitutional reform ???
                      4. 0
                        22 January 2020 14: 55
                        Why are you leaving the question? I asked you a very specific question. You say that Bloomberg intervened in internal affairs through the stuffing in question. Question - did the guarantor succumb to this intervention or did not succumb?
                      5. +1
                        22 January 2020 14: 59
                        Why are you raising the question incorrectly?
                      6. 0
                        22 January 2020 15: 06
                        An incorrect question is a question containing in its basis a false judgment. My question is based on the following judgments:

                        1. Bloomberg intervened in internal affairs through the stuffing in question
                        2. You can give in or not give in to interference (one of these two statements is true, I am interested in which one)


                        Which of these judgments is false?
  3. +6
    21 January 2020 17: 55
    When the profit falls in a brothel, it is not necessary to move beds, but to change prostitutes
    1. +5
      21 January 2020 18: 17
      So they change ... from one bed to another.
    2. +7
      21 January 2020 18: 38
      Quote: Million
      When the profit falls in a brothel, it is not necessary to move beds, but to change prostitutes

      laughing why change? Judging by the post, although it is falling ... but there is still profit! And then, winked if there was an opportunity to find the best, then they would have been replaced a long time ago (I, about these ..., with reduced responsibility ...) do not think about ... prostitutes wink
  4. +1
    21 January 2020 17: 56
    It seems that the information is simply sold for money! In short, everything is as always! !!
    1. +1
      21 January 2020 18: 02
      Quote: Thrifty
      It seems that the information is simply sold for money!

      Why buy information if you can write any crap completely free?
      1. +3
        21 January 2020 18: 27
        They do so, but it is also part of the information war.
        1. -1
          21 January 2020 18: 39
          Quote: cniza
          but it’s also part of the information war.

          Not only, I think that financially, you can crank something at a deep level.
          You never know what the preliminary agreements were with the ministers, the rumor started that the agreement was broken due to the departure of the key figure, and someone started to take off the shares, and someone started to buy ...
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  6. +3
    21 January 2020 18: 01
    I just read that Putin suggested Seagull as a permanent representative to the North Caucasus district, children will not be left without bread smile
    1. -2
      21 January 2020 18: 17
      Quote: Pessimist22
      proposed a permanent representative to the North Caucasus District,

      He will meet Kadyrov)))
      1. +7
        21 January 2020 18: 27
        Quote: Pessimist22
        I just read that Putin suggested Seagull as a permanent representative to the North Caucasus district, children will not be left without bread smile


        His children for several generations will not be left without bread ...
        1. 0
          21 January 2020 20: 46
          But the North Caucasus Federal District grumbles strongly about Chaika: either they have a presentiment, or they have been harmed there with "raspberries". laughing
        2. +3
          21 January 2020 21: 28
          Quote: cniza
          Quote: Pessimist22
          I just read that Putin suggested Seagull as a permanent representative to the North Caucasus district, children will not be left without bread smile


          His children for several generations will not be left without bread ...

          With such a ryah, like at Chaikina’s dying, it’s not enough for several generations. And if a couple of granddaughters are the same - great-grandchildren will starve. They will go to taxi drivers.
          1. +3
            21 January 2020 21: 46
            Hello ! soldier drinks
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            They will go to taxi drivers.

            Yeah. The Bentley will be taxed. lol
            1. +2
              21 January 2020 21: 57
              Pasha drinks !
              Quote: bouncyhunter

              Quote: Zoldat_A
              They will go to taxi drivers.

              Yeah. The Bentley will be taxed. lol

              In "Logan" with such dimensions, not only behind the wheel, but also in the back seat, lying will not fit. Without a Bentley - nothing. He is needed for medical reasons.
              1. +4
                21 January 2020 22: 00
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                for medical reasons

                Well, so am I about the same: everything is for people! wink And if necessary, you can insert an ambulance flashing light instead of a taxicum lamp. Yes
        3. +1
          22 January 2020 04: 59
          Quote: cniza


          His children for several generations will not be left without bread ...

          Oh, I don’t know, I don’t know ... looking at the youngest, I would not vouch for your words
          1. +1
            22 January 2020 09: 39
            It is clear that they never happen much ...
    2. +2
      21 January 2020 18: 18
      Is it true without garbage?
  7. +2
    21 January 2020 18: 19
    The media, all the same, will not be held responsible


    What can not be discussed? To predict?
    Serfs in the stall, the boyars themselves figure it out?
    So mean
    1. +3
      21 January 2020 18: 37
      Quote: maden.usmanow
      What can not be discussed? To predict?
      Serfs in the stall, the boyars themselves figure it out?

      I understand that your main task here is to "cast a shadow over the fence" ...
      It is one thing to "discuss" and "predict", and another thing to categorically declare decisions on specific candidates with reference to "unnamed sources." Feel the difference, as they say
  8. +2
    21 January 2020 18: 23
    Today, in the morning, publications began to appear that such and such a person would allegedly leave the composition of the government - and all with reference to unnamed, but "very authoritative" sources.

    You can arrange a sweepstake and take bets .... I like ORLYANKA, quick game, quick result!
  9. +4
    21 January 2020 18: 26
    An original approach: “who will be fired from the Cabinet,” foreign and liberal Russian media know


    Fortune-telling on coffee grounds, let their cheeks be puffed up and make experts out of themselves ...
    1. +1
      21 January 2020 19: 22
      Quote: cniza
      An original approach: “who will be fired from the Cabinet,” foreign and liberal Russian media know


      Fortune-telling on coffee grounds, let their cheeks be puffed up and make experts out of themselves ...

      I think soon neo in epilepsy will fight from the "bloody regime" .... Now forces are gaining and adherents are pulling up Victor!
      The battle is still ahead the most brutal .. hi
  10. -1
    21 January 2020 18: 29
    The new government will not take those who do not want to give up residence permits / permanent residence abroad, of course.
  11. +3
    21 January 2020 18: 56
    In Russia, everything secret becomes clear ... smile In our town, for example, the heads of the district often changed, the last 4 years of stability smile so about the next resignation of the head of the district, the head of the administration didn’t know yet, the people already knew laughing
  12. +2
    21 January 2020 18: 57
    It remains only to wait until the "foreign media" and the Rosliberasty publish a new list of the government and inform which high positions the "former" will move to, or rather those who will not go to their families. And then we will compare laughing
    1. +1
      21 January 2020 19: 35
      what high positions will the "former"
      they will be sent to the AD (ministry) ministry of the president.
  13. +2
    21 January 2020 19: 03
    How?! Government without Mutko ??? Where will it be sent? Is it really to the Security Council? Good evening to all! hi
    1. +1
      21 January 2020 21: 44
      Quote: Phil77
      Where will he be sent?

      He will head the investment state-owned company Dom.rf.
  14. -3
    21 January 2020 19: 15
    There’s a lot of expert analysts here, I’m not even pushing my elbows laughing
    Well, I won’t interfere, otherwise they will stumble right away .. wink
  15. -1
    21 January 2020 19: 24
    If this is not idle speculation about the new posts of Siluanov, then the question is not at all idle.

    This is a question for Lubyanka
  16. 0
    21 January 2020 19: 26
    Ek revived, foes ...
  17. 0
    21 January 2020 19: 29
    Quote: Gray Brother
    if you can write any crap completely free?

    See it at the root, if you could put more than one + you would definitely put it!
  18. +3
    21 January 2020 19: 59
    I don’t understand why such a stir. If someone is thinking. that the personal fate of the ministers is being decided at the moment - he is mistaken. I am sure that all the candidates were agreed in advance in the Kremlin administration, then in the FSB, then further in seniority. Our acquaintance, in order to appoint a servant to the dachas of constitutional judges in Komarovo, was exposed for several months. And then the whole government. Therefore, all this commotion in the media is nothing more than a vaudeville about the scandal in a brothel. But in order to complete the production within the framework of the genre, it would be cool to ask strictly at the end
  19. +2
    21 January 2020 20: 05
    For me, the indicator is Siluanov-Golikova. Remain, then nothing essentially changes.
    1. +2
      21 January 2020 20: 16
      Shoigu, Lavrov, Golikova remained. Medinsky-resignation. Source-RIA Novosti. Mutko-not visible.
      1. +1
        21 January 2020 20: 33
        Quote: Phil77
        Shoigu, Lavrov, Golikova remained. Medinsky-resignation. Source-RIA Novosti. Mutko-not visible.

        Mutko-Kozak-Topilin-Skvortsova-Kolobkov-Medinsky-Golodets. So a lot of people were removed.
        1. +1
          21 January 2020 20: 38
          Siluanov remained, but not vice.
          1. +2
            21 January 2020 20: 42
            Quote: Phil77
            Siluanov remained, but not vice.

            Hey. I wrote below. Artist now.
            1. +2
              21 January 2020 20: 44
              Good evening! I probably missed, and who is the Minister of Sports now?
              1. 0
                21 January 2020 20: 46
                Quote: Phil77
                Good evening! I probably missed, and who is the Minister of Sports now?

                In the course of Chernyshenko. Chairman of the preparation for the Sochi Olympics. But this is not exactly yet.
                1. +2
                  21 January 2020 20: 48
                  The bureaucrat means. And I honestly expected that Vyalbe would be appointed. angry
                  1. +1
                    21 January 2020 20: 49
                    Quote: Phil77
                    The bureaucrat means. And I honestly expected that Vyalbe would be appointed. angry

                    Vyalbe perfectly copes with his duties.
                    1. +2
                      21 January 2020 20: 53
                      Oh! Found! Some-Matytsin. Does that say anything to you? Now I’ll get google.
                      1. +1
                        21 January 2020 20: 54
                        Quote: Phil77
                        Oh! Found! Some-Matytsin. Does that say anything to you? Now I’ll get google.

                        Does not say absolutely anything.
                      2. +3
                        21 January 2020 20: 58
                        So already! Chairman of the University Sports Federation, Ph.D., and so on. Yes, he also has two higher educations. That is, a person related to sports, but not the highest achievements. A big question.
                      3. +2
                        21 January 2020 20: 59
                        Quote: Phil77
                        So already! Chairman of the University Sports Federation, Ph.D., and so on. Yes, he also has two higher educations. That is, a person related to sports, but not the highest achievements. A big question.

                        Doctor. Master of Sports in table tennis. Maybe a specialist in doping matters? I find no other meaning in the purpose.
                      4. +1
                        21 January 2020 21: 28
                        Matytsin in Russia 24 just now praised, the Universiade and all that .. let's see what.
    2. 0
      21 January 2020 20: 26
      And that they remain - the Central Bank will continue to lower Siluanov’s rate in fact nothing depends - depends on the guys in the field how they will carry out state programs and there will be economic growth.
      1. -1
        21 January 2020 20: 34
        Quote: Vadim237
        And that they remain - the Central Bank will continue to lower Siluanov’s rate in fact nothing depends - depends on the guys in the field how they will carry out state programs and there will be economic growth.

        Siluanov is now just a performer will be. What they say will do. But no way out.
        1. -1
          21 January 2020 21: 00
          The most important thing is forgotten - where is Oreshkin?
          1. +1
            21 January 2020 21: 02
            Quote: Vadim237
            The most important thing is forgotten - where is Oreshkin?

            Oreshkin then? Chief for the "development" of the economy. GDP Assistant. Secretary in their language.
            1. +1
              21 January 2020 21: 11
              Something I did not see him at a meeting of the new government
              1. +2
                21 January 2020 21: 12
                Quote: Vadim237
                Something I did not see him at a meeting of the new government

                I wrote. Hemp paper.
                1. +1
                  21 January 2020 21: 29
                  Understood - Well, bald with him.
  20. +1
    21 January 2020 21: 07
    Those who have no tax arrears will be fired.
  21. +1
    21 January 2020 21: 38
    there all the former at least five for cleaning the brain and digestive tract
  22. +1
    21 January 2020 22: 46
    If everything written about the withdrawals is correct, then next time we’ll hear about “authoritative experts” and “reliable sources on the sidelines of the government”.

    Do you doubt that they have such sources there?
    Another thing is how they use and submit the information received.
    Or do you think that "on the sidelines" we are all completely ideological?
  23. -2
    22 January 2020 06: 42
    Everyone will get warm places
  24. 0
    22 January 2020 15: 14
    Stop likening to the liberal media, in his news, Bloomberg refers to the news

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