Polish Foreign Ministry hopes for a historic dialogue between Warsaw and Moscow

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The press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland announced that it supported the opening of Russian military archives. According to Warsaw, new publications of documents on the Second World War will be a signal for the resumption of dialogue between historians of Poland and the Russian Federation.

At the same time, the Polish Foreign Ministry notes that some of the documents declassified by Moscow on January 17 were known to the general public earlier. The Polish Foreign Ministry believes that although these documents do not reveal anything new, their publication can be regarded as a signal for an open dialogue between the historians of our two countries.



The papers declassified on January 17 are stored in the Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Their publication is dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Warsaw from Nazi invaders.

The Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, Pavel Yablonsky, reacted aggressively to this step of the Russian defense department, accusing the Russian Ministry of Defense of trying history". He put it quite sharply:

This was not liberation, it was the bringing of a new communist captivity, and we must remember this, respecting, of course, individual soldiers.
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  1. +33
    21 January 2020 17: 20
    Polish Foreign Ministry hopes for a historic dialogue between Warsaw and Moscow

    Diplomats ...
    They are supposed to broadcast according to their position.
    Zoological Russophobia is treated only with lead pills.
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    2. +5
      21 January 2020 17: 45
      to the point of namesake
      1. +3
        21 January 2020 18: 36
        Spit in your eyes, God's dew will say ...
        1. +22
          21 January 2020 18: 47
          A lot of statements about Poland in recent times have been stirred up by the “hornet swarm”, and the statements are mutually exclusive ... either Russia “distorts” the historical truth (according to Poland), then the Polish Foreign Ministry supports the publication of documents!
          Open Archives - and continue publishing!
          By the way, the Israelis didn’t get so sick, these guys can take the “last pants” from the Poles, for their crimes during WWII!
          1. +21
            21 January 2020 21: 35
            Quote: ANIMAL
            either Russia “distorts” the historical truth (according to Poland), then the Polish Foreign Ministry supports the publication of documents!

            I do not understand.
            They respect "individual soldiers", "individual soldiers" liberated Poland. And all of them together, as part of the Soviet Army, brought the "communist occupation" to Poland.
            Fig yourself a "diplomatic twist"!
            1. +12
              21 January 2020 21: 52
              Quote: Zoldat_A

              I do not understand.
              They respect "individual soldiers", "individual soldiers" liberated Poland. And all of them together, as part of the Soviet Army, brought the "communist occupation" to Poland.
              Fig yourself a "diplomatic twist"!

              Yes, I, too, “distorted” from this statement of Yablonsky am
              As one comrade wrote, it means publishing documents, they hit Yablochko!
              1. +10
                21 January 2020 22: 06
                Alexey soldier
                Quote: ANIMAL
                publication of documents hit Yablochko

                "The truth is the woman no one wants to see naked." (from)
                1. +11
                  21 January 2020 22: 14
                  Paul soldier
                  They can’t - We teach, they don’t want - we will force! (with)
                  Will have to answer for their actions in WWII, and for terry Russophobia - the current government!
                  Look how to start them up ... I think there are killer documents in the bins of the motherland!
                  1. +9
                    21 January 2020 22: 18
                    Quote: ANIMAL
                    Will have to answer for their actions in WWII, and for terry Russophobia - the current government!

                    But what about. And the hope of the intercession of Big Brother will not save. am
                    Quote: ANIMAL
                    I think there are killer documents in the bins of the homeland!

                    I have no doubt about this, they will pop up in a timely manner. Yes
                    1. +7
                      21 January 2020 22: 22
                      Pasha, pay attention - how the Israelites cheered up ... belay God's chosen ones - They will certainly send the Poles around the World with outstretched hands! And the Polish and Israeli lobby in the USA ... as they say - two Big differences! Yes
                      1. +6
                        21 January 2020 22: 26
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        note how the Israelites cheered up ...

                        I noticed. Yes
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        And the Polish and Israeli lobby in the USA ... as they say - two Big differences!

                        I would not have forgotten about the skakuas - they will also jump on Israel. wink
                      2. +9
                        21 January 2020 22: 33
                        Quote: bouncyhunter

                        I would not have forgotten about the skakuas - they will also jump on Israel. wink

                        Well, by this, as in a saying ... Wherever you throw - Everywhere Wedge!
                        It’s just right for the Non-Brothers to dig trenches along the perimeter of the Border ... Magyars want their own lands, Romanians want their own, Poles - as always, only For a bite of a piece of a foreign country (they already speak about Lviv directly) and how many Polish passports were issued ...
                        And Russia has its own interest. Interesting times are coming, I'm afraid only there will be a lot of blood.
                      3. +7
                        21 January 2020 22: 40
                        Lesha, you yourself see: many stories are redrawing history now. And to redraw the borders - there are enough willing.
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        there will be a lot of blood

                        As there, one of the founders of democracy in the United States said:
                        "The tree of freedom must be watered with the blood of patriots." Yes
                      4. +8
                        21 January 2020 22: 46
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        Lesha, you yourself see: many stories are redrawing history now. And to redraw the borders - there are enough willing.
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        there will be a lot of blood

                        As there, one of the founders of democracy in the United States said:
                        "The tree of freedom must be watered with the blood of patriots." Yes

                        Everything in the Top Ten Pasha, especially the USA, themselves opened this “Pandora’s box” with redrawing the borders in Europe, started with Yugoslavia - and how this initiative will end ... God knows him!
                        And so everything was clearly decided in Yalta 1945, and so much time - All of Europe lived quietly!
                      5. +6
                        21 January 2020 22: 51
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        USA - themselves opened this "Pandora's box" with redrawing borders in Europe

                        They opened it themselves, but they won’t be able to close it. And God forbid that they themselves would have come back to their native land. But there are prerequisites ... Yes
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        All of Europe lived in peace!

                        Yes, not only Europe. But mattresses need peace! Desirable - all! negative
                      6. +10
                        21 January 2020 22: 58
                        Are you talking about American separatism? Yes, there were beginnings, especially after Trump's victory ... and in California and Texas - there was talk of separation. But only Who will allow them? The mattresses only support protests in foreign countries and tears are pouring about “inhumanity” and “undemocratic” - at home. If something begins there, then the blood will definitely be the Sea. Their traditions are ....
                      7. +7
                        21 January 2020 23: 01
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        Are you talking about American separatism?

                        Exactly .
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        If something begins there, then the blood will definitely be the Sea. Their traditions are ....

                        Anyone who arranges a bloodbath around the world at will, should be wary of this in their rear. For "he who sows the wind will reap the storm." Yes
                      8. +7
                        21 January 2020 23: 10
                        As they say - wait and see. wink
                        Imagine how many weapons in the hands of the population in the USA ... enough for the Three Revolutions and Civil Wars!
                        While they dictate their will - to the rest of the world, everything will be calm ... only more and more they have ceased to listen to them ... the policy of looting vassals and colonies is gradually becoming obsolete.
                      9. +6
                        21 January 2020 23: 14
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        only more and more often stopped listening to them

                        This may be the reason for the unleashing of large-scale bloodshed by mattresses. The Naglo-Saxons are used to being guided by the principle: "You drown yourself - swamp another." ... And they don't know how to lose ...
                      10. +7
                        21 January 2020 23: 18
                        Actually, like winning, by military means! They know how to buy, they know how to do it, even very well. And to Fight ... to drive the Papuans - this is not to Fight! Iran - albeit crooked, but answered and why ??? And nothing! Yes
                      11. +6
                        21 January 2020 23: 14
                        Straightened up laughing
                        In fact, this is a very long process, which half of Europe will oppose - including Hungary, Slovakia and others, so as not to set a precedent on the basis of which they themselves can pump out the loot.
                        And the amount of payments will be much less than declared. Instead of 300 lard, for example, 7 - at best. And not with money, but with goods. Etc.
                      12. +7
                        21 January 2020 23: 23
                        Albert, hi .
                        Yes, it’s clear that they won’t bring immediately on a platter with a border ... they will butt to the last “for blood”! After all, the main thing is that in general this question has appeared! It's like a Pole on the head with Poles, they all wanted to in Germany, they were completely mad, they also warmed their hands in Russia ... and here is the haggling and Greetings from Israel! laughing
                      13. +7
                        21 January 2020 23: 27
                        I agree.
                        Therefore, Poland is now posing as a “victim of the Soviet occupation”. And figs)) And in general - Churchill Stalin changed it to Greece, so we had a buffer, and the EU had a headache in the form of Greeks laughing
                      14. +9
                        21 January 2020 23: 35
                        laughing laughing lol It’s probably a shame (with Polish ambition) when the Country is stupidly Changed for something ... crying
                        This "Victim" of the Stalin occupation, how will the 600 Soviet soldiers repay for the blood? For an economy raised out of thin air? For the Earth cut, including at the expense of Germany ??? Only they know how to jackal. am
                        A rare case when I support Israel! Derbanite Poles ... yes tougher, tougher !!!
                      15. +5
                        21 January 2020 23: 42
                        We will see. In principle, the Poles can always declare that they will not comply with the decision of the international court in this regard. The question is, what next. I would disconnect them from SWIFT for such a thing, close all Polish banks abroad, etc.
                      16. +11
                        21 January 2020 23: 46
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        We will see. In principle, the Poles can always declare that they will not comply with the decision of the international court in this regard. The question is, what next. I would disconnect them from SWIFT for such a thing, close all Polish banks abroad, etc.

                        Albert, if You could do that, I would at least support You! good I think half of Russia - Also! Yes
                        Tired of these "hyenas of Europe."
                      17. +8
                        21 January 2020 23: 55
                        Yes, I do not wish them harm - it’s just a rotten topic - they cut out your housemates during the war - you squeezed out their property. They liberated you from the invaders who treated you as untermanent - you called it a conquest. Part of your Jewish neighbors who managed to escape from the Nazis returned to the houses occupied by you - you squeezed them out of the country by pogroms. Now that you have been looted and you got up a little - you suddenly became dissatisfied with something when you are asked to give up the squeezed property ... in short, you thought that you were the smartest, it turned out that you got it.
                      18. +8
                        22 January 2020 00: 04
                        That confirms the Russian Folk Wisdom ... On the Alien Misfortune - Happiness cannot be Built!
                        And Poland for Everything - repaid with black ingratitude, they also decided to put forward claims. am So let them catch Wrapping.
                        In the ranks of the Wehrmacht and the SS - 500 thousand Poles fought, and how many more served the Nazis, including the concentration camps! You have to pay for Everything, sooner or later!
                        It’s time for Russia to issue invoices to them ...
                      19. +8
                        22 January 2020 00: 16
                        They did not serve in the SS; there was a mass appeal from the Polish lands officially attached to the Reich. In concentration camps in Poland, mostly Ukrainian nationalists worked as guards. Well, they had some kind of police brigade with the SS working - they brutally cracked down on Ukrainians and Belarusians - a peaceful people, of course. Their pilots performed well in the “Battle for England”, the Polish Army fought along with the Red Army (though there were many Soviet “conditionally Poles” and Jews, but not the point), Anders' army fought for the British - there are no complaints, but in general and the whole situation is rotten. For their release, hundreds of thousands of soldiers of the Red Army, who now suddenly turned out to be “invaders,” laid their heads. Disgusting.
                      20. +7
                        22 January 2020 00: 27
                        Wrong Albert! The Poles even served in the SS, namely in the 3 Tank Division of the SS "Totenkopf", 4 police Grenadier Divisions, 31 and 32 Grenadier Divisions of the SS.
                        About the Polish army and the Anders division, as well as about the Polish pilots - I wrote everything correctly!
                      21. +4
                        22 January 2020 00: 41
                        I read - it became interesting
                      22. 0
                        22 January 2020 10: 39
                        Her Poles are the victims of Susanin laughing How many centuries the poor fellow has been laughing
          2. +2
            22 January 2020 06: 27
            Quote: ANIMAL
            By the way, the Israelis didn’t get so sick, these guys can take the “last pants” from the Poles, for their crimes during WWII!

            Oh, this is a sweet word for Israel - reparations ... indemnities laughing and other withdrawals of banknotes.
            And rightly so the Poles, if it turns around. lol
    3. +4
      21 January 2020 17: 54
      This message is likely for Israel to hear, an attempt to rehabilitate itself.
      1. +4
        21 January 2020 18: 15
        Quote: BARKAS
        This message is likely for Israel to hear, an attempt to rehabilitate itself.

        Exactly so, now they will start to turn out .. And you can’t argue against the facts .. Anti-Semitism in Poland, that during the war. That after the fall of Berlin literally went through the roof .. There it happened. hi
    4. +2
      21 January 2020 18: 29
      To start the dialogue, first of all, it is necessary to issue an invoice to Poland to compensate for the costs of the USSR for liberation from the Nazis and assistance in recovering from the war period, similar to what Poland presented to Germany. Only after that it makes sense to sit down at the negotiating table.
  2. +12
    21 January 2020 17: 25
    I don’t think there will be dialogue after statements from Poland ..

    Oh, the Poles of Putin brought their remarks, if he was almost obscene ...
    1. +3
      21 January 2020 18: 17
      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, the Poles of Putin brought their remarks, if he was almost obscene ...

      Well, if it were just statements, they bulldozed the graves of Soviet soldiers and nobody decree them .. am
      1. -6
        21 January 2020 20: 36
        Yes, my friend Balabol is still one! Give a link where in Poland bulldozers demolished the graves of Soviet soldiers.
        1. +5
          21 January 2020 21: 53
          Quote: Romka
          Yes, my friend Balabol is still one! Give a link where in Poland bulldozers demolished the graves of Soviet soldiers.

          Pzhalsta

          “After the start of the decommunization process, accompanied by the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers, Polish officials first feared shame. An example of this is the interview with Robert Matkowski, who heads the audit commission of Trzchanka, where in 2016, by order of the mayor Krzysztof Czarnecki, the mausoleum on the fraternal the grave in which the ashes of 56 Soviet tankmen who liberated Trzchanka from the Nazis (until 1945 it was the German city of Schönlanke) rest. "

          http://vvesti.com/politika/v-polshe-vpervye-poboyalis-velikogo-pozora-ot-snosa-mogily-krasnoarmejtsev
          1. 0
            22 January 2020 20: 50
            Well what can I say? Every family has its black sheep. So the exception only confirms the rule, and I can "pull" such references to you about Russia.
    2. +5
      21 January 2020 18: 20
      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, the Poles of Putin brought their remarks, if he was almost obscene ...

      He still did not remind them of Catherine II ... Yes Andrew, hi !
    3. -5
      21 January 2020 20: 30
      And why is it so recently, the Russian media space has been flooded with the Polish theme? As if Ukraine is no longer there. Is it clear that the go-ahead was given? But the question is: dlaczego?
  3. +9
    21 January 2020 17: 26
    The Polish Foreign Ministry believes that although these documents do not reveal anything new, their publication can be regarded as a signal for an open dialogue between the historians of our two countries.
    If there is nothing new, then where is the multi-day diarrhea of ​​the Polish public and government?
    1. 0
      21 January 2020 17: 39
      Quote: evgic
      If nothing new

      But they have a lot of "new", so they yell from the fact that they are prevented from building their own cozy maneuver with Great Beautiful Poland which everyone should.
  4. +2
    21 January 2020 17: 27
    The press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland announced that it supported the opening of Russian military archives. According to Warsaw, new publications of documents on the Second World War will be a signal for the resumption of dialogue between historians of Poland and the Russian Federation.

    And where are the Poles to go now? Facts and historical documents are impartial witnesses.
    This blah blah resembles an attempt to speak your teeth until they come up with some other muck ... Strategic sworn partners ... it all started from the adoption of Orthodoxy by Russia ... Catholics, through the papal blessing, through the Genoese, bought from Mamaia (time of reign Dmitry Donskoy) slaves of the Slavs ... starting from this time, sworn friendship began to develop
    1. +7
      21 January 2020 17: 41
      This GDP has not yet been opened by the KGB in Poland. There will be a lot of things regarding their current leaders. Starting from honey. cards and ending with their pseudonyms in the KGB intelligence affairs.
    2. -2
      21 January 2020 17: 47
      "With the papal blessing, through the Genoese, they bought slaves of the Slavs from Mamai (during the reign of Dmitry Donskoy)."
      ----
      The notes of Arab merchants are full of references that princes and leaders of Slavic tribes on the banks of the Black Sea and deep in rivers actively sold Slavs to anyone: Catholics, Genoese, Muslim Arabs, and pagan Varangians. For barter: weapons and armor, spices, luxury goods.
      Religion has nothing to do with it.
      1. +5
        21 January 2020 19: 10
        The Genoese appeared in the Crimea and the Caucasus only at the end of the 13th century and the slave trade in the Cafe began with the formation of the Crimean Khanate, and flourished with the arrival of the Turks in the late 15th century. Prior to this, nothing in excess of the usual practice of selling prisoners was observed. Everything was traded in slaves: the scale was different than from the 14th century.
      2. +1
        21 January 2020 19: 11
        As Bogdan Khmelnitsky sold to the Turks and Tatars villages in slavery: Ottoman chronicles vividly described the Tatar trade on Ukrainian lands within the Polish possessions after the Zhvanets Treaty of 1653. The Turkish traveler Evliya ебelebi in his “Book of Wanderings” also notes how rich the Crimea was due to its participation in the Cossack-Polish wars.

        According to Celebi, Khan Islam Gerey made 71 campaigns against Poland with the Cossacks and 8 times brought with him 100 thousand prisoners. The traveler said that thanks to the wars, the Cossacks themselves became pretty wealthy. 10 years after the end of the Khmelnitsky war, Celebi gave no less stunning figures for the population of Crimea: there were only 187 thousand Muslims, but 921 thousand Slavic slaves. Some historians consider the last figure to be too high, but it makes it clear that there were more prisoners in the Crimea then the local population.

        So, the yasir was one of the main conditions for the support of Khmelnitsky from the khanate. If many Ukrainian historians chastely circumvent this topic, then the late Ottoman sources amaze with their testimonies. Here is how the chronicler of the 1648th century Shemdanizade Suleiman-effendi described the beginning of the Cossack war of 18:

        “The good news came to the capital that [the Cossack tribe], together with the Tatars, raided the Poles, and led out forty thousand Rusyns captives ...".
      3. +3
        21 January 2020 20: 36
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The notes of Arab merchants are full of references that princes and leaders of Slavic tribes on the banks of the Black Sea and deep in rivers actively sold Slavs to anyone: Catholics, Genoese, Muslim Arabs, and pagan Varangians.

        Seriously? Give evidence of this statement.
        1. +1
          21 January 2020 22: 48
          Type in google:
          Slavery and the slave trade in Ancient Russia.
          There is historical material "over the head".
          The slave trade was quite common in those days
          in all states, including Ancient Russia.
          1. +3
            22 January 2020 00: 42
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Type in google:
            Slavery and the slave trade in Ancient Russia.
            There is historical material "over the head".
            The slave trade was quite common in those days
            in all states, including Ancient Russia.

            In Google you can find anything ... for example, the statement that the Earth is flat, or for example that Jerusalem, in fact, is far more ancient and was not built, but dug up. So, I repeat, the official story is not worth a damn egg with its censuses, distortions and lags of historical events.
            For example, there are historians-practitioners, not bookworms, who claim, and not without reason, that the history of Russia has at least 10 years, but there are opinions that about 000 years. Only smart people with advanced degrees do not recognize or do not notice.
            Open your eyes ... even in your lifetime they rewrite history, but are you trying to tell me what happened 300-500 years ago? Are you serious?
          2. 0
            22 January 2020 00: 51
            The amazing thing: the Israelis were also slaveholders. A slave is an animate tool of labor.
            1. +4
              22 January 2020 11: 06
              That's right. In the ancient kingdom of Judea there was also slavery and the slave trade. With its own laws and features. What is described in detail in the Bible. ALL states of the Ancient world were slaveholdings.
    3. -1
      21 January 2020 18: 20
      Catholics, by papal blessing, through the Genoese, bought from Mamai (the time of the reign of Dmitry Donskoy) slaves of the Slavs ..


      The Varangians sold the Slavs with a bang, through the Volga Bulgaria. Actually, in those days they were selling whom they would capture, not only the Slavs ....
      1. +4
        21 January 2020 20: 40
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        The Varangians sold the Slavs with a bang, through the Volga Bulgaria. Actually, in those days they were selling whom they would capture, not only the Slavs ....

        A classic story is something written by someone for their own purposes. The present history is no longer science. I could just as well say that there were no Slavic separate tribes, but there was a united Tartaria with its statehood, system, etc. ... try to refute this statement.
        1. 0
          22 January 2020 07: 21
          A classic story is something written by someone for their own purposes.


          Do not be ridiculous - there are a lot of sources of both the Byzantine and Arab on the slave trade - who, where and how.

          but there was a united Tartaria with its statehood, system, and so on ... try to refute this statement.


          And why should I refute something that wasn’t? If you repeat this, then we live in different worlds and all right ... in modern society, the educational gap is already enormous, so there is no trouble.
      2. 0
        21 January 2020 20: 41
        Yeah ... it started!
    4. -4
      21 January 2020 20: 40
      Did GDP tell you this too?
  5. +3
    21 January 2020 17: 27
    They got scared, what else is there in the archives, who knows, they are such archives, bottomless. So they remembered about cooperation "jackals of europe"
  6. +5
    21 January 2020 17: 27
    Well, take a step towards us - publish information about the captured Red Army soldiers shot in the 20s, about their exact number, place and time of execution, about the burial places!
    1. +7
      21 January 2020 17: 32
      Eco you swung. If you pull this out, Poland will have to admit at least a war crime, and if properly filed then a crime against humanity. Poles will never agree to this.
      1. +4
        21 January 2020 17: 41
        Quote: evgic
        Eco you swung. If you pull this out, Poland will have to admit at least a war crime,


        We need to get them to do it, they asked for it ...
      2. +2
        21 January 2020 18: 26
        Quote: evgic
        If you pull it out Poland will have to admit at least a war crime

        You are wrong. The history of Poland (according to their version) begins on September 1, 1939. As for what happened before that (except, of course, the "great" speech of the polity), in Poland itself it is customary to keep silent. It seems like nothing happened. Pilsudski seemed to be, but he was a real angel.
    2. +2
      21 January 2020 18: 01
      Documents and document processing on this issue are already known and published in Poland. even:
      Izabela Kowalska, Urszula Olech, Elżbieta Pawińska, "Antykatyń. Losy jeńców rosyjskich w Polsce w 1920 r." (materiały do ​​bibliografii), [w:] Zeszyty Katyńskie (nr 19), Warszawa 2004, str. 149-168

      However, the fate of Russian prisoners of war in Poland is undoubtedly a tragedy and a terrible flaw in our history, as my personal friend, a doctor of history Ireneusz Wojewódzki said in an interview:
      "- In the beginning there were no big problems, because there were several prisoners, several thousand. The situation deteriorated sharply after the Battle of Warsaw. Then many more appeared. And the winter of 1920 was very difficult. In October, 80-85 thousand were found in Polish camps. Prisoners of war. These are estimates. The camps were overcrowded. There was poor sanitation. In addition, there were epidemics: typhus, flu, dysentery, cholera. It was a drama. "

      - It does not bring us pride.
      - "Sure, but this was the result of the weakness of the developing state, not calculation and malice. The planned murder in Katyn cannot be compared to the death of prisoners of war who found themselves in tragic conditions. Of course, there was a lot of reprehensible behavior, but there was no higher order or even permission. Unfortunately, this, of course, was not a pressing problem for a country that was in great trouble. However, no order was given: to finish. On the contrary. If the Poles had such an opportunity, they would have saved them. The army also fought in rags, and soldiers died from epidemics and poor sanitation. "


      Poland never hid the fate of Soviet prisoners of war in the 1920 war. Despite everything, Poland is responsible for the detained prisoners. This is our fault!

      Similar studies, publications or opinions of Russian historians should also be presented on the topic of Polish prisoners of war in Soviet captivity (1919–1922)


      However, this is all a task for historians and a joint commission, and not for politicians !!!!

      For the good of our countries and peoples!
  7. +3
    21 January 2020 17: 27
    Citizens are sir! Come on, you better dig Kaczynski.
  8. +3
    21 January 2020 17: 29
    According to Warsaw, new publications of documents on the Second World War will be a signal for the resumption of dialogue between historians of Poland and the Russian Federation

    I do not understand. This is like: Let's live together?
    1. +6
      21 January 2020 17: 40
      They realized that they did not even imagine what else is in our archives ...
    2. +2
      21 January 2020 17: 41
      Quote: solzh
      : Let's live in peace?

      Let the destroyed monuments be restored and then it will really be a "signal", but while it is so - the squeak of the crushed.
  9. +4
    21 January 2020 17: 32
    Let's wait, see what an uncomfortable truth will be made public!
    1. +6
      21 January 2020 17: 39
      They will ask not to betray publicity, they say, let the "scientists" figure it out first.
      1. +3
        21 January 2020 19: 08
        Quote: cniza
        They will ask not to betray publicity, they say, let the "scientists" figure it out first.

        Throw everything on their heads, so much so that used in the most public space, let them understand then.
        1. +2
          22 January 2020 09: 35
          Today they again raised the screech, they feel that we can dump everything.
          1. +1
            22 January 2020 09: 41
            I heard on the radio that ours are preparing such a real "review" from all the archives we have.
            Should get a "bomb" ... only there, and soon there will be no one to evaluate it. With their, sado-maso logic, fascist camps, is it something close to the "recreation areas" ???
            1. +2
              22 January 2020 10: 07
              Yeah and Putin announced an article for the Victory Day.
              1. +2
                22 January 2020 10: 32
                Quote: cniza
                Yeah and Putin announced an article for the Victory Day.

                And we need another victory! Ready to pay the price!
                1. +2
                  22 January 2020 12: 22
                  And we do not have other options, otherwise they (the collective west) will bring judgment on us.
                  1. +1
                    22 January 2020 12: 32
                    Quote: cniza
                    And we do not have other options, otherwise they (the collective west) will bring judgment on us.

                    The court is okay, there are worse options! There shobla inquisitors and the fire have long been complicated .... that's just afraid to disturb the "defendant", it hurts too "vigorous" in all respects!
                    1. +2
                      22 January 2020 12: 35
                      I forgot to quote the word court, they will howl and jackals howl and walk in circles, crap without ceasing ...
                      1. +1
                        22 January 2020 12: 46
                        The moon is then common, it shines on everyone ... so let them.
                      2. +2
                        22 January 2020 12: 48
                        So they will not be allowed to live in peace, therefore it is necessary to be proactive in order to fight off the hunt again by 50 years.
                      3. +1
                        22 January 2020 12: 54
                        Quote: cniza
                        So they will not be allowed to live in peace, therefore it is necessary to be proactive in order to fight off the hunt again by 50 years.

                        I’m not sure, despite the present, as it were, slowing down, attenuation, military developments and the various adventures following this. Even now there are huge plans there!
                        We will answer our plans with our ingenuity and .... we can answer with a club, special, but that will be if they run into a lot.
                      4. +2
                        22 January 2020 13: 01
                        May God grant wisdom to our rulers, so that our counter plans replay them.
  10. +4
    21 January 2020 17: 33
    Polish "history" does not teach the Polish leadership anything. In the foreseeable past, Poland disappeared from the political map three times - apparently not enough.
  11. Ham
    +3
    21 January 2020 17: 33
    the kids are not sickly burns ...
  12. +8
    21 January 2020 17: 33
    They were frightened, villains, that sins would come out, - during the Second World War everything was documented, there was no time to deal with fakes and there was no purpose. And sins, see, the order has accumulated. Together with the uncomfortable truth.
    1. +6
      21 January 2020 17: 38
      I think they don’t even suspect how many there are.
  13. +1
    21 January 2020 17: 35
    In diplomacy, as in war, in no case should one lose contact with the enemy.
    Charles Freeman. "Dictionary of the diplomat"
  14. +4
    21 January 2020 17: 37
    the publication can be regarded as a signal for an open dialogue between the historians of our two countries.


    Well, we will see how you will interpret them ...
  15. +6
    21 January 2020 17: 39
    "Well done" Poles! When Putin said about "not a good and not clean mouth," everyone correctly understood that we were talking about their mouth. Therefore, the back was turned on, they say, historians, historians will understand no more "bad" documents to declassify
    1. +2
      21 January 2020 19: 33
      Mandatory. There is not only about Poland. All Europe Hitler did curtsies, and now bark. Enough to warm them already, everything is documented. The longer we keep silent, the louder and bolder the barking.
  16. 0
    21 January 2020 17: 42
    This was not liberation, it was the bringing of a new communist captivity, and we must remember this, respecting, of course, individual soldiers.

    But what if Europe is divided into deadly clans and Hitler-2 shines? Who orders the rules, he answers. And the third war in Europe will already be on the coffin. Poland itself chose its side - Hitler -1. And who is to blame? We need to look for fair options. And she again returned to the starting position - against the liberator for 3 MB. Not good.
  17. +6
    21 January 2020 17: 44
    They collapsed from oak! After the abomination and meanness that they heaped up, they hope for something else ?! Looks like their tail was pinched with these archival materials. Bastards bawled!
  18. +2
    21 January 2020 17: 53
    Stop talking not about the case, then maybe we'll talk.
  19. +4
    21 January 2020 18: 30
    In the process of surfing, in search of a reaction to the publication of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the next portion of archival documents, which coincided with the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the capital of Poland by the Soviet Army, Warsaw, stumbled upon an electronic site of extreme nationalist persuasion Jagiellonia.org. . The schematic map perfectly depicts the wet dreams of Polish nationalists who have opened their mittens to the entire East European and Central European part of present-day Europe, traditionally for the descendants of the Polish gentry, the appetites of today's Polish Nazis are spread from the Black to the Baltic Seas. By the way, I want to pay special attention to the fact that the Polish Nazis also dream of picking up Crimea for themselves wassat
  20. +5
    21 January 2020 18: 34
    According to Warsaw, new publications of documents on the Second World War will be a signal for the resumption of dialogue between historians of Poland and the Russian Federation.

    Oh how cute! It seems that there are two parallel Warsaw in the World. One is for the "resumption of dialogue", the other is a Russophobic hyena. Jekyll and Hyde. Who really drives something?
  21. +6
    21 January 2020 18: 35
    The content of the site and its information component are also, to put it mildly, extremely specific, you can simply say that there are no other materials besides the wildest Russophobia on the resource. Another key semantic stream in this garbage dump is the whitening of Ukrainian nationalism, both historical and modern. But this is not the most interesting, from my point of view, the most interesting thing is that such a platform is officially funded by the Polish Sejm.
  22. +4
    21 January 2020 18: 37
    Absolutely not funny, you have not seen the contents of this Polish govnosayt, there is already a whole section there dedicated to Russia's attempts to quarrel Polish and Ukrainian nationalists.
  23. 0
    21 January 2020 18: 38
    Funny site, who would go -SGS there yelled laughing
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  25. +3
    21 January 2020 19: 25
    And, of course, Duda did not remember that it was his compatriot who tore up a bomb to pieces of Emperor Alexander II on the embankment in St. Petersburg in 1881?
  26. 0
    21 January 2020 19: 29
    The Polish Foreign Ministry believes that although these documents do not reveal anything new, their publication can be regarded as a signal for an open dialogue between the historians of our two countries.

    They hope that, under pressure from the West, we will have new Judas such as Humpbacked ready to obey the West. Given the incurable form of centuries-old Russophobia, which affects the Polish elite, an attempt to convey something to it will look like, frankly, throwing beads in front of pigs! These genetically flawed simply do not accept any other opinion than their own!
  27. +3
    21 January 2020 19: 30
    It was not liberation, it was the bringing of a new communist captivity,


    Hmm, I would like to mumble, but not.
    It was necessary to liquidate Poland, to distribute land between neighboring countries, naturally in favor of the Soviet Union.
    But they could.
  28. +3
    21 January 2020 19: 58
    They have not yet answered for Ivan Susanin.
  29. 0
    21 January 2020 21: 02
    I wonder in what condition the archives of the Pole are. They could lose them twice.
  30. 0
    21 January 2020 21: 06
    Dialogue is possible. After one statehood is destroyed.
  31. 0
    21 January 2020 21: 50
    The press service made a non-binding call on duty. Statements are made by policy makers, not their secretaries. And what politicians say, we know. Nothing changes for the better, confrontation intensifies and moves to a new level.
  32. +1
    21 January 2020 22: 07
    Susanin has not yet been answered.
    1. +1
      22 January 2020 00: 52
      ... and who will answer for the king ?!
  33. +2
    21 January 2020 23: 42
    In Poland, there are heroes, parts of the Regional Army (300-350 thousand people) who fought against the Red Army from 1940 to 1945 in Belarus, Ukraine and Poland. Well, about 500-600 thousand Poles, who fought as part of the Wehrmacht and the SS, remain proudly silent in Warsaw. I’m silent about the grandfather of the current EU President Donald Tusk Joseph Tusk, who served in the SS. (Alexander Borisovich Shirokorad - writer)
    1. +2
      22 January 2020 00: 53
      Poland has always been a member of the EU. Even under Hitler.
  34. +1
    22 January 2020 19: 27
    expressed hope for a historic dialogue between Warsaw and Moscow

    It's too late, however .. The patience with the Russians has ended and we will not express our concern about Russophobia and the destruction of the graves of Soviet soldiers in Poland.!
    Read the archives and try to refute them, we will also provide you with a small part additionally, etc. .. And then maybe we'll talk, but on our terms .. hi