North Korean economy grows faster than Russian


In the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, GDP grew by 1,8 percent last year. According to forecasts, in 2020 this figure will reach 2,2 percent, and in 2021, 2,8 percent.


Such data was released by the South Korean television channel KBS.

Unfortunately, the Russian economy cannot even boast of such a growth rate. According to S&P, in 2019 it grew, according to various sources, by 1-1,3 percent, which is significantly lower than the global average, the goal of which Vladimir Putin set the target in May 2018.

For the current year, the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation predicts GDP growth of 1,7 percent, although recently the ministry called the figure 2 percent.

Meanwhile, the international insurance company Euler Hermes believes that the global economy will grow by an average of 2020 percent in 2,4, and 2021 percent in 2,8.

As for the information of the South Korean television channel KBS, it does not say how the DPRK manages to achieve economic growth under the most severe international sanctions. Moreover, in 2017 and 2018, the country experienced a rapid decline in GDP - 3,5 and 4,2 percent, respectively. At the same time, inflation in the country today is ahead of GDP growth.

In fact, taking into account the state of affairs in the DPRK economy is very conditional. The system itself remains closed, Pyongyang does not exchange data with the international economic institutions on the financial and economic situation. Therefore, South Korean calculations are largely approximate.
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  1. Svarog 20 January 2020 14: 39 New
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    In the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, GDP grew by 1,8 percent last year. According to forecasts, in 2020 this figure will reach 2,2 percent, and in 2021, 2,8 percent.

    Such data was released by the South Korean television channel KBS.
    Unfortunately, the Russian economy cannot even boast of such a growth rate.

    No wonder, it’s amazing how something is growing at all with such brilliant experts and managers .. Going upstream, oil has risen in price. Trumpeting that growth .. Oil has fallen, shouting sanctions .. Always someone is to blame, but not they ..and they have been building for 20 years .. houses, castles, yachts ..
    1. paul3390 20 January 2020 14: 43 New
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      It’s amazing how we’ve got something growing ..
      Come on - why such pessimism? What about corruption? And the number of billionaires? And the number of moronic laws? A lot of things are growing here ..
      1. Lexus 20 January 2020 16: 09 New
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        What about corruption? And the number of billionaires? And the number of moronic laws? A lot of things are growing here ..

        In other words, a “cancerous tumor” is growing in Russia, and multiplying “metastases” inhibit and replace “healthy cells”, poison the “organism” as a whole, knock out “vitamins and minerals” from it, and inhibit the ability to resist fatal changes.
      2. ltc35 20 January 2020 17: 28 New
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        Over the years, only pressure is growing ... Joke. There is no change of power in the country, no competition, but as a result of stagnation. The era of Leonid Ilyich was already surpassed. Now the hope remains that Gorbach will have no heir.
      3. Chaldon48 20 January 2020 17: 46 New
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        You would add to your "growth" the number of coffins sent to the cemetery.
    2. Alex 2020 20 January 2020 15: 06 New
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      I look, the tradition of minus for the truth, as well as for accurate and specific answers to questions, lives and thrives. hi
      1. New Year day 20 January 2020 15: 09 New
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        Quote: Alex 2020
        I look, the tradition of minus for the truth, as well as for accurate and specific answers to questions, lives and thrives.

        minus those who live well in Russia
        1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 15: 13 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          minus those who live well in Russia

          Doctor, you say - you live badly? wink

          I won’t believe in life request
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              1. Petr1 20 January 2020 16: 22 New
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                Well, I meant it laughing
          2. New Year day 20 January 2020 16: 13 New
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Doctor, you say - you live badly?

            leave me alone love
            1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 16: 15 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Doctor, you say - you live badly?

              leave me alone love

              Well, you see ... not bad, not bad at all for you to live ... too, to be, minus the righteous? wink
              1. New Year day 20 January 2020 16: 16 New
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                Quote: Golovan Jack
                minus the righteous?

                unlike your colleagues, I'm an angel
                1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 16: 22 New
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                  Quote: Silvestr
                  unlike your colleagues

                  And who is this?

                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I'm an angel

                  Well, and I - definitely not. I drink, smoke and swear laughing
                  1. Svarog51 20 January 2020 20: 00 New
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                    And I love women ... all ... but my wife is more than all of them.
                    I drink, smoke and swear

                    I agree, sin, repent. And I hate the enemies of the Motherland. And I won’t stop.
      2. Uncle Vanya Susanin 20 January 2020 18: 07 New
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        Well, in fact, Golovan was bombarded, does the truth follow him !?
        1. New Year day 20 January 2020 18: 29 New
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          Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Well, in fact, Golovan was bombarded, does the truth follow him !?

          Behind them is not truth, but power. These are two big differences, and besides, they have their own truth-truth EP, Medvedev and his friends
          1. Petr1 20 January 2020 19: 12 New
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            When this jack manul offends me. him like water off a duck, when I tell him the truth in his eyes. banyat me. request
            Sylvester is completely right +
            They can’t cope with YouTube. The truth is for now ...
    3. Thrifty 20 January 2020 15: 08 New
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      Where are we bastards, to u-kroiny, with its 5 percent economic growth per year crying , and if Trump orders, they will count, and "discover" the growth of the Ukrainian economy 5 percent per month crying belay
      1. AnderS 20 January 2020 15: 17 New
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        Where are we bast, to y-kroiny
        You bastard, is this to whom? Honestly, you’re already tired of your Ukraine, where do you live in general? What is Ukraine as a standard for you on any issue?
        1. Thrifty 20 January 2020 15: 23 New
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          AndreS - I live in Rostov-on-Don - you know. There is such a city in Russia!
          1. AnderS 20 January 2020 15: 37 New
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            I live in Rostov-on-Don, you know. There is such a city in Russia
            What are you saying ?! I would never have thought ... If you hadn’t opened my eyes that it’s in Russia, I would have thought that it’s right in Hell, reading Ukraine, since for you Ukraine has a plug in every hole and a first-class standard with which each country needs to be compared. His people live there, with his own thieves he will sort it out somehow.
          2. Dur_mod 20 January 2020 15: 39 New
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            Yanek is probably your neighbor, I’m sleeping the hut in spite of my neighbor ...
            The hut burned, burn the barn.
        2. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 15: 38 New
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          Ukraine is a country in which the same people live with us, with the same mentality. And we have a common story. So, the comparison of Russia with Ukraine is really a standard.
          1. Roman070280 21 January 2020 10: 30 New
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            the same people as ours, with the same mentality.


            But with completely different potentials .. both economic and resource ..

            It’s like comparing two young guys, one of whom thumped and sold everything for 20 years .. and the second seemed to work like all these years .. And having met many years later, they suddenly were surprised to find that their wallets were about equally empty ..
        3. Bshkaus 20 January 2020 15: 53 New
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          You bastard, is this to whom? Honestly, you’re already tired of your Ukraine, where do you live in general? What is Ukraine as a standard for you on any issue?

          AnderS (Andrey) I fully support you.
          Don’t pay attention to him, well, the man squealed, his life has offended him so much, do you think it’s easy for yourself to admit that they are turning you around?
          About 5% of Ukrainian GDP Thrifty wrong, they have an increase of only 3-3,5% but it is still almost twice as high as ours. But the fact that even North Korea, in which Koreans eat grass and after 10 pm even cut off electricity in the capital, is already a blow below the belt for patriotic vanity.
          And you, Thrifty I advise you to get acquainted with such concepts as shrink inflation и downsizingif you are willing to courageously face the truth. True, I warn you, after that I won’t want to joke ((((
          1. Sergey1987 20 January 2020 17: 09 New
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            Quote: Bshkaus
            As for the 5% of Ukrainian GDP, Lean is not right, they have growth of only 3-3,5%, but this is almost twice as high as ours. But the fact that even North Korea, in which Koreans eat grass and after 10 pm even cut off electricity in the capital, is already a blow below the belt for patriotic vanity.

            laughing Well, yes, we are directly envious of their growth. There is nothing to eat but grow.
          2. Uncle Vanya Susanin 20 January 2020 18: 12 New
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            And you read due to what they have the so-called. GDP growth, while the real sector of the economy dipped!
        4. 1959ain 20 January 2020 19: 01 New
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          The secret of prosperity WEST FOR EXAMPLE USA
      2. Was mammoth 20 January 2020 15: 36 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        Where are we bastards, up to u-Kroina, with its 5 percent economic growth per year crying, and if Trump orders, they will count, and they will "discover" the growth of the Ukrainian economy 5 percent per month crying

        YOU WHAT?
        "In 2021, Russia's GDP growth rates should be higher than world ones." Vladimir Putin
      3. New Year day 20 January 2020 18: 31 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        Where are we bast, to y-kroiny

        Do not want to compare with other countries, or somehow it doesn’t work correctly: then we compare with Ukraine, when it is necessary with Africa, and on holidays, with the EU and the United States
    4. x.andvlad 20 January 2020 15: 09 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      It’s amazing how we’ve got something growing ..

      What is growing is the price. And, apparently, after that someone's wallet is growing. But this is with the elect.
    5. Altona 20 January 2020 15: 35 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      No wonder, it’s amazing how something is growing at all with us ..

      ------------------------
      Vladimir, I wrote a comment about the USA in another thread. Donald Fredovich is pulling the economy as best he can, unemployment has become less than 4% (!!) (comparable to ours, where 30 million “self-employed” are plus), real incomes increased by 3% (compared to our 0,1), the number of people receiving food stamps decreased for 2 million people themselves earn. A strategic agreement has been signed with China; China's market for American goods has been opened.
      1. Svarog 20 January 2020 15: 42 New
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        Quote: Altona
        Quote: Svarog
        No wonder, it’s amazing how something is growing at all with us ..

        ------------------------
        Vladimir, I wrote a comment about the USA in another thread. Donald Fredovich is pulling the economy as best he can, unemployment has become less than 4% (!!) (comparable to ours, where 30 million “self-employed” are plus), real incomes increased by 3% (compared to our 0,1), the number of people receiving food stamps decreased for 2 million people themselves earn. A strategic agreement has been signed with China; China's market for American goods has been opened.

        Trump is generally well done. Until now, I haven’t unleashed war with anyone, I’m fulfilling campaign promises .. Unlike ours, which didn’t even voice the election program .. and then you and pension reform and taxes ..
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        2. Yura 20 January 2020 16: 07 New
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          Quote: x.andvlad
          What is growing is the price. And, apparently, after that someone's wallet is growing. But this is with the elect.

          Quote: Altona
          Vladimir, I wrote a comment about the USA in another thread. Donald Fredovich is pulling the economy as best he can, unemployment has become less than 4% (!!) (comparable to ours, where 30 million “self-employed” are plus), real incomes increased by 3% (compared to our 0,1), the number of people receiving food stamps decreased for 2 million people themselves earn. A strategic agreement has been signed with China; China's market for American goods has been opened.

          Quote: Svarog
          Trump is generally well done.

          Quote: Altona
          Well, ours immediately admitted that he was assigned from old Clinton.

          Where are you guys from and who ?! In Russia there is everything that you envy in the USA, even Clinton’s grandmother put someone up, in Russia the growth of the economy is unimportant, if you put your hands on this growth, then you worked poorly, if you didn’t make it worse, did nothing and scream, ears are laying. Read your dialogue here again in my post, do not you think that the darling from all this is rotten?
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 20 January 2020 17: 20 New
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            in Russia, an unimportant economic growth, if you put your hands on this growth, you worked poorly, if you didn’t make it even worse, you didn’t do anything but scream, your ears are laying.

            I suspect you had a hand in our place? Are you that hard worker at an accelerated pace that increases labor productivity on whom does the entire economy of the country hold? laughing
            1. Yura 20 January 2020 17: 35 New
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              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Are you that hard worker at an accelerated pace that increases labor productivity on whom does the entire economy of the country hold?

              Until he retired, it was, so what?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2 20 January 2020 18: 00 New
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                Quote: Jura
                Until he retired, it was, so what?

                And I think that this is our GDP so dipped. And it’s over there.
              2. New Year day 20 January 2020 20: 43 New
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                Quote: Jura
                Until I retired it was

                it means you live in retirement, good to see.
          2. Uncle Vanya Susanin 20 January 2020 18: 14 New
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            Here, Yura, and you have been slammed, then the truth is yours!
      2. smart ass 20 January 2020 16: 12 New
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        It would be good if we put a tramp on the post, but the trouble is, we do not have the level of trump oligarchs
      3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 06: 53 New
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        A strategic agreement has been signed with China; China's market for American goods has been opened.
        Pancake! Do Putin and China have such an agreement?
        the number of people receiving food stamps has decreased by 2 million people, they themselves earn.
        And some say that coupons only under socialism!
    6. smart ass 20 January 2020 16: 04 New
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      One gas pipe was launched + 0,5% to GDP, launched the power of Siberia, plus another 1%, here’s your growth
    7. demo 20 January 2020 17: 15 New
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      Something is growing in someone.
    8. ccsr 20 January 2020 20: 33 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      It’s always someone to blame, but not they .. and they have been building it for 20 years .. houses, castles, yachts ..

      Of course, those who choose such leaders so that they manage them and build their personal well-being at the expense of others are to blame. I understand that everyone is ashamed to admit that the majority follows them, judging by the results of the elections, but this is a fact that cannot be refuted in modern Russia. As they say, they wanted to live under capitalism, you got what you ordered. So the next time you want to see the person to blame for your problems, look in the mirror.
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      I imagine the following message from the guarantor - to the federal assembly: in 2021 we will catch up and overtake North Korea. Stormy applause passing into a standing ovation.
  2. Loess 20 January 2020 14: 41 New
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    unveiled the South Korean television channel KBS.

    According to S&P, in 2019 it grew, according to various sources,

    And why are different "coordinate systems" used in comparing economic growth? In one case, information from the channel, in the other case, as I understand it, a rating agency. Can you provide data from the same agency regarding the DPRK?
    1. Vadim237 20 January 2020 14: 51 New
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      They have a serious shortage of energy capacities, and the country is completely embargoed by sanctions on imports and exports - accordingly, there can be no economic growth in such a country.
      1. Svarog 20 January 2020 15: 01 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        the embargo and sanctions on imports and exports are imposed - accordingly, there can be no economic growth in such a country.

        In the USSR, it was also a plus of the Second World War, where 22 ml. men were killed, and growth was, and even what ... Maybe just a liberal model sucks? Maybe socialism?
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        2. reservist 20 January 2020 15: 23 New
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          BOB, where 22 ml. men were killed
          who counted so much and how?

          The total human losses of the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 26,6 million people, of which almost 12 million were irretrievable military losses.
          .
          The irretrievable loss of troops and forces of the army and navy amounted to almost 12 million troops. Missing and captured 4,5 million people, 1,8 million returned from captivity. 5,3 million people were forcibly hijacked from the occupied Soviet territories, 2,2 million of them died
          www.interfax.ru/russia/479070
          1. 1959ain 20 January 2020 16: 08 New
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            Quote: reservist
            BOB, where 22 ml. men were killed
            who counted so much and how?

            The total human losses of the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 26,6 million people, of which almost 12 million were irretrievable military losses.
            .
            The irretrievable loss of troops and forces of the army and navy amounted to almost 12 million troops. Missing and captured 4,5 million people, 1,8 million returned from captivity. 5,3 million people were forcibly hijacked from the occupied Soviet territories, 2,2 million of them died

            But our fathers recaptured their women, and German women still, the TURKS and other emigrants from SOUTHERN countries console. And how quickly the first artificial Earth satellite, the Soviet spacecraft, launched into orbit on October 4, 1957, recovered. https://sun9-60.userapi.com/c844618/v844618844/6a0fb/Hype9cBCnMM.jpg https://sun9-11.userapi.com/c638130/v638130998/6afa3/t7bJ0A0dBk8.jpg
            1. 1959ain 20 January 2020 16: 14 New
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              Poor lived during the USSR
              1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 18: 35 New
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                I would not say that they lived well under the Union. They lived mediocre, in C grade. With a minus.
                1. 1959ain 20 January 2020 18: 50 New
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  I would not say that they lived well under the Union. They lived mediocre, in C grade. With a minus.

                  And you are already a dollar millionaire, you have 3 cars and there is no loan and you are not afraid to lose your job. But the USSR only the lazy could not earn.
                  1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 18: 56 New
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                    Isn’t it right now? Now, too, only the lazy cannot earn. And you can earn more than in those years. I have a loan, almost repaid - I took it on equipment modernization, I give work to myself and not only to myself. And I have 5 cars: 3 cars and 2 timber trucks. No, I’m not a dollar millionaire, I’m up to him, as to Beijing barefoot.
                    1. 1959ain 20 January 2020 19: 12 New
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                      And why are you gagging if it’s no secret that in our country you can do whatever you want to be taxed on all sides and sell your work profitably?
                      1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 19: 15 New
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                        The beam, the carriage, the board, the cylindering, now took up the moldings: layout, baseboard, rail. Taxes, of course, exist, but you can live.
                      2. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 07: 06 New
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                        And what is the payment to the hard workers? How much do they have per month? Or do they not want to work, but only want to plump?
                  2. 1959ain 20 January 2020 19: 16 New
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                    Got a forest
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    And I have 5 cars: 3 cars and 2 timber trucks. No, I’m not a dollar millionaire, I’m up to him, as to Beijing barefoot.
                    Understood the forest in CHINA you persecute, process or drive the round timber and all leftist without taxes.
                    1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 19: 18 New
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                      To China from the Novgorod region? This is something new. There, the Russian Railways tariff will cost three times as much as a board loaded in a carriage.
          2. reservist 20 January 2020 18: 52 New
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            Quote: 1959ain
            ... German women still, TURKS and other emigrants from SOUTHERN countries console

            emigrants to Germany came in large numbers with their women, their descendants have long been full citizens of Germany, who wanted to integrate into the local society for a long time ...
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              Quote: reservist
              emigrants to Germany came in large numbers with their women, their descendants have long been full citizens of Germany, who wanted to integrate into the local society for a long time ...

              Why did you flee to Germany?
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                no, here I just recently visited there ... the advertisement of the local shawarma in their tram finished off - a smiling descendant of Turkish emigrants against a doner with the inscription "kebab is like that in German ..."
          3. New Year day 20 January 2020 20: 48 New
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            Quote: 1959ain
            And how quickly the first artificial Earth satellite, the Soviet spacecraft, launched into orbit on October 4, 1957, recovered.

            you do not carry out anti-government propaganda here!

            It is said that Nicholas II and Hitler are to blame for everything laughing
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        Quote: Svarog

        In the USSR, it was also a plus of the Second World War, where 22 ml. men were killed, and growth was, and even what ...


        Here are the numbers ... and not the abstract - "yes what" .... anyone interested can see the real picture ...

        http://istmat.info/files/uploads/38432/rgae_1562.33.2638_rozhdaemost_smertnost_i_chistyy_prirost_naseleniya_sssr._1913-1955.pdf
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          And here, reporting to Stalin and Molotov on population .. the prada is only up to 32 years old, and nevertheless, the numbers are comparable with the data from the link I posted above ...

          http://istmat.info/files/uploads/40598/rgae_1562.1.668_62-65.pdf

          It's funny that they will miss the document prepared for Stalin (by reference) ... they see that they know more than they wrote to Stalin in the lecture ... wassat fool
      3. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 15: 41 New
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        DPRK is a country of victorious socialism. That’s how I don’t feel like “forward to the DPRK.” Still not tired of walking in the herd?
      4. K-612-O 20 January 2020 15: 42 New
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        Socialism and Juche things are not comparable. Are you ready to work 10-12 hours a day in rice fields or mines, factories for $ 50-100 a month, with a shortage of products, and consumer goods? And God forbid criticizing the great leader. Or an urgent 10 years to serve?
        1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 16: 04 New
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          Juche is precisely the product of socialism. Another crazy experiment. Self-reliance, autocracy, when the whole world moves to the international division of production.
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            Okay, tell tales. You might think that they voluntarily ran into Juche. Kim has been living for 70 years under the most severe sanctions, what the hell is the international division of production. Have a conscience. But what they survived, and even did the bomb with missiles themselves - this is really cool. Without socialism, they would have long been bent ...
            1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 16: 43 New
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              The Chinese were smarter - and the Americans were milked and the economy raised. And South Koreans generally live and prosper without any socialism. Kims drove the country into a dead end - hence the Juche. Dogma will not bring to good.
              1. paul3390 20 January 2020 16: 48 New
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                The stump is clear - they are prospering, all markets are open in front of them, and the bourgeoisie pumped up the dough unmeasuredly. The Chinese were no smarter - they just made good money on pseudo-confrontation with the USSR. I would have looked how any other country would have survived if it would have been imposed on it since the DPRK ..
                1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 17: 31 New
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                  If Kims did not hold on to their barracks socialism, but developed a normal economy, they would long ago be one with South Korea. A prosperous country would be, not half-starved.
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    If Kims did not hold on to their barracks socialism, but developed a normal economy, they would long ago be one with South Korea. A prosperous country would be, not half-starved.

                    In fact, you are proposing to lie under Uncle Sam. Then it concerns Russia. Well what to butt with the States? Lie under them and heal richly and happily.
              2. IS-80_RVGK2 20 January 2020 17: 29 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                The Chinese were smarter - and the Americans were milked and the economy raised.

                The Chinese are very lucky. But the fact that they had the mind to take advantage of luck is, of course, no doubt.
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                And South Koreans generally live and prosper without any socialism.

                Bullshit is some kind of prosperity. When you have to work, so the horses die.
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Dogma will not bring to good.

                The trouble is that most people, including you, have so far only enough dogma.
              3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 07: 23 New
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                The Chinese were smarter - and the Americans were milked and the economy raised. And South Koreans generally live and prosper without any socialism. Kims drove the country into a dead end - hence the Juche. Dogma will not bring to good.
                If Kims did not hold on to their barracks socialism, but developed a normal economy, they would long ago be one with South Korea. A prosperous country would be, not half-starved.
                Do you agree to work as much as the South Koreans and Japanese work? What is their working day and working week? How much vacation? What are the apartments by area? Judging by the Internet, a concentration camp in South Korea and Japan.
                1. vindigo 21 January 2020 09: 11 New
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                  I communicate with South Koreans. They talked about their lives. They are very sorry.
            2. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 55 New
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              Well, you yourself bent it! laughing For some reason, they have made great strides in this direction with the collapse of the USSR, especially at the expense of our Svidomo brothers, who will sell everything for nothing. Actually, therefore, the Americans very quickly deprived them of nuclear weapons, although I read more than once that before that the lads had managed to push a few charges to the suffering.
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Juche is precisely the product of socialism.

            Come on, you won’t lie?
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Self-reliance, autocracy, when the whole world moves to the international division of production.

            Yeah, where we are stubbornly allocated the place of a raw materials appendage.
            1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 19: 09 New
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              Until we learn how to make competitive products, we will be a raw materials appendage. And the beginning was laid back in the first half of the 70s. Nobody wanted to buy their Soviet-means-excellent products for foreign currency, because of its backwardness, to put it mildly, so they had to pull pipes to the damned capitalists. To at least somehow make dollars.
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Until we learn how to make competitive products, we will be a raw materials appendage.

                As soon as we learn how to do it, they will try to drive us into the Stone Age.
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                And the beginning was laid back in the first half of the 70s.

                And why not in the 19th century when a bright RI with blaarod kings and nobles overslept the STR? The very one that began to consider most of its citizens as people, and that is limited only since 1861.
                1. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 59 New
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                  Well, by 1913, the Russian economy was the second in the world. Yes, and in the WWI cards were entered only in March 2, the last of the warring countries (for example, they entered Germany right from the start of the war) when there were no kings already, but only greedy mediocrity and revolutionaries remained. Although Nikolashka is also the ruler, only Tagged is worse.
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                    Germany fought on two fronts.
                    "The share in world industrial production was 2,6% in 1913. Out of the total volume of industrial production, it ranks 5-6th in the world.

                    With the start of operation of the Baku district, Russia in 1900 came out on top in oil production. After the crisis of 1899, industrial production increased 1,5 times in 1909-1913, with heavy industry - 174%, light - 137%.

                    In 1912, the national per capita income in Russia was 110 rubles. gold, in Germany - 300 rubles, England - 500, USA - 720. In 1913 industry grows, but the country remains peasant (in cities 16% of the population, the number of proletarians is almost 4.2 million people, when in Germany the city population is 43,7%, England - 51,5%). "
                    Strikingly reminiscent of the Russian economy. Do not find? The same paragraph in full growth as at the beginning of the last century. That's just still not enough world war. And so a complete set.
              2. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 07: 38 New
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                Until we learn how to make competitive products, we will be a raw materials appendage.
                But what didn’t they learn in three decades? Again commies to blame?
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              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Yeah, where we are stubbornly allocated the place of a raw materials appendage.

              who prevented the authorities from developing industry and the economy. Well, they promised to jump off the oil and gas needle by 2020. Jumped off?
              1. AU Ivanov. 20 January 2020 21: 39 New
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                We are slowly getting down. Non-commodity exports are already 59% and are crowding raw materials.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2 20 January 2020 22: 01 New
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                  Well, not even 200 years will pass before Russia becomes a leading technological and industrial power. If by then it will still exist
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  We are slowly getting down. Non-commodity exports are already 59% and are crowding raw materials.

                  11,2% of GDP in 2019.
                  11.2% of raw materials in the country's GDP is calculated from the COST of oil and gas production.
                  The bottom line is that most of the oil and gas sits in that part of GDP called TRADE.
                  The approximate share of oil and gas is about 30%.
                  But that's not all. This figure does not reflect the entire raw material dependence of the country.
                  In real numbers:
                  The share of raw materials (oil, gas, metals, precious stones) in Russia's exports is 85%.
                  The share of oil and gas in the federal budget of the country is more than 50% of direct revenues (up to 75% of indirect).
            3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 07: 36 New
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              Yeah, where we are stubbornly allocated the place of a raw materials appendage.
              Here AS Ivanov is trying to drive Russia into the international division of labor on the basis of a raw material base! Some raw materials are issued, other computers, and so on. Well, such a wonderful division of labor! Cuba at one time also engaged in narrow specialization, was home to sex. AU offers to get into the mink of the division of labor and rejoice that they allowed to engage in narrow specialization! And if it is forbidden to engage in narrow specialization? Repeat the fate of the Indians?
          3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 07: 16 New
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            Juche is precisely the product of socialism. Another crazy experiment. Self-reliance, autocracy, when the whole world moves to the international division of production.
            Well, Russia has moved to the international division of labor. And then her sanctions! And I myself had to be writhing. Mistrals were ordered to specialists. But does it not seem that the international labor organization is the stall into which they are being driven? The EU also made an international labor organization. Only countries lost theirs and switched to narrow specialization.
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          Are you ready to work 10-12 hours a day
          But in Russia they work for 16 hours! Or does Andrei work no more than 4 hours a day? I don’t understand why such scared cries about 10-12 hours of work per day?
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        Maybe just a liberal model sucks?

        Oh Svarog, well, you are again for yours. Still, do not overpower to read what is a liberal model of the economy? So read, read, maybe then you will cease to carry nonsense. And with liberal economic models such as Singapore, Japan and South Korea, they do not live badly.
        1. Fikys 21 January 2020 04: 43 New
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          Singapore, Japan and South Korea do not live badly.

          This is not a liberal, but a prostitutional model of the economy. Personally, I don’t need material prosperity at this price, not everything in this life is measured by money.
          1. Sergey1987 21 January 2020 09: 42 New
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            This is not a liberal, but a prostitutional model of the economy. Personally, I don’t need material prosperity at this price, not everything in this life is measured by money.

            What are you? And what is there prostitute? Do not tell? Although the term itself simply smiled. I will tell you a secret in the economy there is no such term. And what price did they not tell?
            1. Fikys 21 January 2020 17: 53 New
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              What are you? And what is there prostitute? Do not tell?

              Do you really need to explain this ?! Under the United States lie. You can try to call it differently, but the essence of this will not change.
              Quote: Sergey1987
              And what price did they not tell?

              I'll tell you. This price is independence and self-esteem. I understand that there are people for whom this is an empty phrase, but this does not change my attitude to this issue.
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                Do you really need to explain this ?! Under the United States lie. You can try to call it differently, but the essence of this will not change.

                Yuri in geopolitics there is no such term, there are terms colony, protectorate, ally, and Koreans with the Japanese can be attributed to the last term.
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                I'll tell you. This price is independence and self-esteem. I understand that there are people for whom this is an empty phrase, but this does not change my attitude to this issue.

                I think if you talk with the Japanese or Koreans, you are unlikely to hear from them that they have no self-esteem. And they can be called independent. In domestic politics - completely, and in foreign they have certain obligations as US allies, but they are not always 100% subordinate. Take even sanctions against the Russian Federation. Korea and Japan actually ignored them.
    2. solzh 20 January 2020 15: 09 New
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      what growth of economy in such country cannot be

      In fact, all economic forecasts regarding the DPRK resemble fortune-telling on coffee grounds ...
      In the article, in the last paragraph, everything is clearly stated:
      In fact, taking into account the state of affairs in the DPRK economy is very conditional. The system itself remains closed, Pyongyang does not exchange data with the international economic institutions on the financial and economic situation. Therefore, South Korean calculations are largely approximate.

      That is, it is impossible to say with one hundred percent certainty that the situation with the DPRK economy has developed in the present time.
      GDP growth can even be observed under sanctions. I do not consider the GDP indicator to be justified evidence of a country's weak or strong economy. I believe that the GDP indicator is outdated. Instead, economists need to introduce, develop, some other index. hi
      1. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 08: 04 New
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        But is it worth the country in the blockade to disclose data on its economy? To strangle faster?
        1. solzh 21 January 2020 09: 21 New
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          I absolutely agree with you. Therefore, I say:
          Quote: solzh
          all economic forecasts regarding the DPRK remind fortune-telling on coffee grounds

          hi
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      accordingly, there can be no economic growth in such a country.

      but he is! By the way, be curious. what is the growth of the economy of all but Russia
      1. Lexus 20 January 2020 16: 23 New
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        but he is!

        Because there are no "fabulous" pipes and "migratory" managers pumping the latter into other, prosperous countries.
      2. Vadim237 20 January 2020 16: 29 New
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        “But it is” - Well, perhaps only in your universe, where economic growth can occur without energy, materials, equipment and exports from other countries. Sylvester brains do not.
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          Quote: Vadim237
          where economic growth can occur without energy, materials, equipment and exports with other countries.

          Who prevented the elite from doing this?

          Have everyone overtaken oil and gas deposits?
          so that
          Quote: Vadim237
          don't do brains.

          Maybe enough beds to move and it's time for girls to change?
          1. Vadim237 20 January 2020 21: 40 New
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            Why are you all the countries included in the USSR as an example? They have part of the industry from the USSR, the markets are open, the energy sector is more or less in order, there is no shortage of them, they have all been integrated into the global market economy for 30 years - Once again is good at making brains. And you change your girls, judging by the mention of the beds by you - too fat for the beds to withstand them.
          2. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 17 New
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            Almost all of these countries are growing at the expense of our energy resources and our energy sector, our sales market. Of course, not like in the days of the USSR, but still half as sitting on the neck, and sits (Armenia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Uzbekistan)
    4. Altona 20 January 2020 15: 42 New
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      Quote: Vadim237
      They have a serious lack of energy capacity.

      -------------------------
      Vadim, the North Korean economy is not so backward as you think. This is the first. Second, the DPRK economy has enormous potential for mobilization, that is, it is enough to throw a cry and there will be the right number of workers.
      1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 15: 46 New
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        ... just throw a cry and the right number of employees there is ...

        Two soldiers from a construction battalion
        Replace the excavator ...

        Inspired request
      2. Vadim237 20 January 2020 16: 31 New
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        There will be workers - but where else will they take everything else from the air?
    5. New Year day 20 January 2020 20: 36 New
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      Quote: Vadim237
      and even the country is completely embargoed by sanctions on imports and exports - accordingly, there can be no economic growth in such a country.

      c'mon everywhere you look for trump's hand!
      For ten years (from 2008 to 2018), even taking into account the annexation of Crimea and counting their economy to ours, it grew by only 8%, and without Crimea and Sevastopol it is about 5%. For comparison: the global economy as a whole grew by 38,5%, the Chinese economy - by 114%, India - by 98%, even Mongolia grew by 94%, Vietnam - by 81%, Philippines, Indonesia - 75-80%, Turkey - by 65%, Georgia - by 46% in 10 years, even Nigeria - by 50%. Take developed countries, and even there was growth: South Korea - by 35%, Sweden with its high pensions, the highest standard of living, showed an increase of 20%. Even the USA grew by 19%. And Belarusians - about 17%.
      The Russian economy is growing slower by about four times than the global economy, and about 15 times worse than China.

      1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 20: 48 New
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        the global economy as a whole grew by 38,5%

        Doctor, it’s permissible for you not to know, but why introduce others into the harlot: the charts you have given (PPP per capita income dynamics) have nothing to do with economic growth.

        Accordingly, your whole powerful speech with a bunch of digits (completely disparate, by the way. Countries are different, conditions are different) - nothing. Doctor.

        This is so, by the way yes
        1. New Year day 20 January 2020 21: 12 New
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          Quote: Golovan Jack
          This is so, by the way

          What does the ratio of GDP at PPP to GDP at face value show? - The difference in price levels, i.e. conditional set of goods and services produced in various countries available to the citizen. In fact, what he can buy. The ultimate goal of these PPP calculations is to obtain comparative indicator.
          PPP is just the coefficient for the cost of production, which helps to at least roughly estimate the size of economies, taking into account the different costs of labor and resources. love
          1. Golovan Jack 20 January 2020 21: 14 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            What does the ratio of GDP at PPP to GDP at face value show?

            What does this have to do with it? What is on your chart, doctor? wink

            Let me remind you there you were talking about "economic growth" yes
            1. New Year day 20 January 2020 21: 21 New
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              Let me remind you there you were talking about "economic growth"

              but does the salary and purchasing power of a person depend on economic growth?
              Crocus Group President Araz Agalarov pointed out that now Russians have extremely low pensions and wages. This, according to the billionaire, does not contribute to an increase in GDP.
              “The average pension in the country today is around $ 200, some even have less, the average wage is also low. Without the increase in these incomes, it is impossible to increase production, because there will simply be no one to sell the goods and services released ”
              Maybe that's why he is there, and you are in VO?
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                Quote: Silvestr
                but does the salary and purchasing power of a person depend on economic growth?

                Ahem ... doctor, you have a bad logic.

                - you start with "drop dead economy for everyone except the Russian Federation"
                - you lag, inserting a couple of completely irrelevant charts ... "the dynamics of per capita income," I recall
                - and now you are interested in me, but does this dynamic happen to depend on economic growth belay laughing

                It’s not even female logic, doctor. This is her complete absence request

                Quote: Silvestr
                “The average pension in the country today is around $ 200, some even have less, the average wage is also low. Without the increase in these incomes, it is impossible to increase production, because there will simply be no one to sell the goods and services released ”

                Then comrade billionaire put the cart in front of the horse.

                He does not have competitive products that he could sell. Therefore, all the extra money, if they suddenly appear in the population, will not go to him at all, but to the Chinese.

                To stimulate the growth of industry in China at the expense of the Russian Federation is a very original idea of ​​comrade billionaire. And yours, I suppose. Although in some ways you are similar to him laughing
              2. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 24 New
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                You will be surprised but no, the Iranian economy is growing more than 10%, and money is depreciating and the purchasing power of the bulk of the population is also falling, in India it is about 7%, the number of citizens below the poverty line (not poor, namely the line) is close to 2019 to 600 million people. So all these liberal techniques are for the noodles of barbarians and natives from the "white man", usually Anglo-Saxon.
                1. Golovan Jack 21 January 2020 07: 32 New
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                  Quote: K-612-O
                  You will be surprised ...

                  Yes, there will not be "Sylvester" surprised ... people just troll.

                  I repeat: Gaster is not a nationality. These are the mentality features..

                  Sapienti sat request
      2. Shahno 20 January 2020 21: 27 New
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        Well, overall this is not news. For the country to feel real results ... Stable growth of 3% of GDP is needed for 5-10 years. Our Prime Minister, by the way, came to this. You can scold him. But we have a result. Israeli women breed because they are confident in tomorrow. bully
    6. SOVIET UNION 2 21 January 2020 06: 59 New
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      But how do they live in a blockade if there is no economy? How could rockets be launched? Russia has an economy but missiles are falling, in the DPRK there is no economy but missiles are taking off! So soon Eun and space will master, and Russia will lose!
  3. orionvitt 20 January 2020 16: 17 New
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    And why are different "coordinate systems" used in comparing economic growth?

    Here, as they say, because. The article clearly says
    taking into account the situation in the economy of the DPRK is very conditional. The calculations are largely approximate.
    The same applies to other countries where the economic indicators provided to "international institutions" are "conditional". Everyone wants to embellish, because some conditional ratings of different economies depend on it. For example, in the Netherlands, in the GDP, income from the turnover of drugs and prostitution is brought in, in the states (which have not produced much for a long time), virtual incomes from exchange speculation and financial transactions. As you can believe, GDP is growing in Ukraine, if the country is not only war, the industry is destroyed and a third of the population has left, so the living standard of the population is constantly falling. They will not show the growth of economic indicators, they will not receive another loan for cutting. So the international ratings of GDP growth, in my opinion, are absolute dust in the eye and have nothing to do with reality. In addition, you still need to see who makes them up and in whose interests.
  • lucul 20 January 2020 14: 44 New
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    Yes, everything is simple to disgrace - investing in the economy - there will be growth. And if you store money or valuable (invaluable US Treasury bonds)
    investing - then what growth?
    This is how to draw an analogy with Intel - you invest in the development of processors - there is development, you do not invest - you trample on the spot and they will bypass you ...
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      Quote: lucul
      Yes, everything is simple to disgrace - investing in the economy - there will be growth. And if you store money or valuable (invaluable US Treasury bonds)
      investing - then what growth?
      This is how to draw an analogy with Intel - you invest in the development of processors - there is development, you do not invest - you trample on the spot and they will bypass you ...

      And who got around Intel? just don’t say that it is AMD
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        Quote: oleg83
        Quote: lucul
        Yes, everything is simple to disgrace - investing in the economy - there will be growth. And if you store money or valuable (invaluable US Treasury bonds)
        investing - then what growth?
        This is how to draw an analogy with Intel - you invest in the development of processors - there is development, you do not invest - you trample on the spot and they will bypass you ...

        And who got around Intel? just don’t say that it is AMD

        https://spydell.livejournal.com/673973.html
    2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 20 January 2020 15: 08 New
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      Well, haven't you invested enough money in the Angara, or what? And in Angstrom-T? And in the "Superjet"?
      1. lucul 20 January 2020 15: 12 New
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        Well, haven't you invested enough money in the Angara, or what? And in Angstrom-T? And in the "Superjet"?

        Are you kidding me ????
        Only Renault, in its Renault Laguna 2 car, invested $ 1 billion in development. So this is only one model from the list ....
        In the same Angara, you can safely swell under $ 500 billion and there will be little more.
        1. kjhg 20 January 2020 16: 43 New
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          Quote: lucul
          In the same Angara, you can safely swell under $ 500 billion and there will still be little

          Are you all in yourself? 500 billion dollars - this is 2 annual federal budgets of Russia! Where and how are you going to spend that kind of money? Raw materials for the production of rocket parts from Alpha Centauri to carry?
          1. lucul 20 January 2020 16: 59 New
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            Where and how are you going to spend that kind of money?

            Are you one of those who believe that electricity is taken from the outlet? )))
            Do you know that car production pulls (develops) as many as 20 industries?
            The new rocket will have to develop metallurgy, composites, the chemical industry, electronics, machine tools, and so on and so forth. And this is money, money, and once again money (R&D). That is, to pull the industry by the ears to get a result. So did the USSR when launching the first satellite. Or do you think that Korolev made rockets from wood, tape and metal? ))))
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              Quote: lucul
              Are you one of those who believe that electricity is taken from the outlet? )))

              Are you going to reinvent electricity, build new energy generating capacities and delivery networks?
              Quote: lucul
              car production pulls 20 industries?

              Yes, the full cost of its production also draws, including the production of all parts and assemblies laid down in the price of this car.
              Quote: lucul
              The new rocket will have to develop metallurgy, composites, the chemical industry, electronics, machine tools, and so on and so forth. Ie pull the industry by the ears

              All these industries need to be pulled not only because of a single Angara rocket. These sectors, one way or another, must participate in the production of a large number of products. Composites, for example, are used for Su-57, MS-21, ships. Metallurgy, Chem. industry, machine tools, electronics are developing mainly for other needs. The space sphere is not in the first place there.
              1. lucul 20 January 2020 18: 03 New
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                Are you going to reinvent electricity, build new energy generating capacities and delivery networks?

                What power plants do you generate power? )))
                Yes, the full cost of its production also draws, including the production of all parts and assemblies laid down in the price of this car.

                20 industries are drawn - do you understand how important this is for the economy?
                All these industries need to be pulled not only because of a single Angara rocket. These sectors, one way or another, must participate in the production of a large number of products.

                Only with the sufficient development of these industries is it possible to create a rocket. And their development requires a lot, a lot of money. It is impossible to create a fundamentally new rocket without the development of the entire industry of the country.
                It is impossible to create a modern Mercedes 200 years ago - at that level of technology ...
      2. Vadim237 20 January 2020 16: 34 New
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        No one refuses the Angara A5, Angstrom T is waiting for the transfer to Roselectronics, they continue to order the Superjet and produce until 2024 they promise to bring the number of domestic components to 100%.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2 20 January 2020 17: 38 New
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          By 2024 they promise to bring the number of domestic components to 100%.

          Oh, something, but they know how to promise.
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          They promise to bring the number of domestic components to 100%.

          how, tell me

          if the CHAIRS for the crew are made by the British laughing
          1. Vadim237 20 January 2020 21: 45 New
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            Show me at least one such plane - which is made entirely in one country.
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              Quote: Vadim237
              Show me at least one such plane - which is made entirely in one country.

              your words
              Quote: Vadim237
              They promise to bring the number of domestic components to 100%.

              do not find contradictions?
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                And what is contradictory here - in 2024 it will become the first in the world aircraft of its class completely created in one country. In the meantime, no such aircraft in the world.
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            How - with their hands, they will take and do.
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      Yes, everything is simple to disgrace - investing in the economy - there will be growth.

      -----------------------------
      Of course, while considering. that the main subject of the economy is people, both as workers and as consumers of the social product.
  • KAVBER 20 January 2020 14: 59 New
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    "In fact, taking into account the state of affairs in the DPRK economy is very conditional. The system itself remains closed, Pyongyang does not exchange data with international economic institutions on the financial and economic situation. Therefore, the South Korean calculations are largely approximate." In fact, that’s all said all this is fantasy and no more.
  • Andrey VOV 20 January 2020 15: 04 New
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    I didn’t understand the meaning of finding this news on this site this time, and the second. How can I compare the square with the round? I have a feeling of gradual degradation of the site, honestly
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      For some time now, I also have such a feeling, especially with an abundance of near-political articles and news that are not related to military affairs, the defense industry or the security sphere.
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    That's just ... no words! Russia is a country with huge resources! Take and earn, count everything on a dish, right in front of your nose! But no ...
    Japan, a country with no resources at all, and the 3rd world economy.
    RK, also rogue in terms of resources, but at our level in the world.
    Well, how is that? Yes, simple! They take resources from other countries and turn them into goods! To the goods, Karl! They take raw materials and make, for example, a smartphone! Samsung Galaxy S3 sold> 6.5 lyam! And there are all sorts of LG, Hyndai, build ships for the world, in particular tankers.
    Japanese, 4th Curling Iron - 82.2 Lyama sold consoles!
    People took the raw materials and did! Why can't we do this?
    Well, obviously, develop and trade, everything is simple. But nooo ... Us and so the norm, right?
    Now, beggars like the DPRK are raising their economy faster than us! Why? Pictures of the Leader push or what?
    China, they were nobody just recently! The Americans came with factories, gave jobs, loaded the factories.
    We have private and foreign business stupidly strangling And this is to prevent competition.
    1. Dur_mod 20 January 2020 15: 45 New
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      One nuance sir, they all got access to the American market, they pumped loans, plus Japan had a huge debtor ... and a vassal of Syshya. Either you are a servant of mattresses and you are in shekolada or you are independent but poor.
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        And in Japan, life is quite expensive.
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          Quote: Vadim237
          in Japan, life is quite expensive.

          and in Africa cheap
          1. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 27 New
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            Only money and states (in the normal plan, where they don’t shoot) is not enough
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    2. New Year day 20 January 2020 15: 58 New
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      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      Russia is a country with huge resources! Take and earn, count everything on a dish, right in front of your nose! But no ...

      The global economy is growing at 3,2 percent per year. This means that she is not in a crisis by formal grounds.
      We have formally a colossal influx of petrodollars into the Russian economy, a budget surplus. Since the beginning of 2019, it has already exceeded 3 trillion 100 billion rubles. In 2018, revenues exceeded expenses by 2 trillion 700 billion rubles.
      With that kind of money, one could rebuild the whole of Russia; stop closing schools, hospitals, increase pensions, salaries for doctors, teachers, increase scholarships, benefits for large families; to build new schools, kindergartens, clinics; stop destroying the social sphere, but this does not happen.
      1. Vadim237 20 January 2020 18: 52 New
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        “In 2018, revenues exceeded expenses by 2 trillion 700 billion rubles.
        With that kind of money, one could rebuild the whole of Russia; stop closing schools, hospitals, increase pensions, salaries for doctors, teachers, increase scholarships, benefits for large families; to build new schools, kindergartens, clinics; stop destroying the social sphere, but this doesn’t happen. "Because you continue to live in your own imaginary world - the depreciation of fixed assets of Russia of 50% at an estimated cost is 89 trillion rubles, which would increase pensioners to pensioners of which we have 46 million at least a thousand rubles 552 billion rubles a year is needed - for 10000 as if it would have already been 5,5 trillion rubles - every day kindergartens of the school lease new social programs from all over Russia almost 5 trillion rubles every year - your budget surplus is 2,7 trillion nationwide - a modest figure.
      2. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 31 New
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        The world economy has been growing for a long time less than 3%. Germany for more than six months does not get out of the minus, we have already overtaken France, and the rest of Europe, get out on debt. Which we, by the way, up to a certain time did. Since external borrowing is also added to the calculation of economic growth (hello to Ukraine with its 3,5% growth).
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      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      Japan, a country with no resources at all, and the 3rd world economy. RK, also rogue in terms of resources, but at our level in the world.
      Well, how is that?

      That's right, colleague! Our real economy is melting like shagreen leather in Balzac’s novel of the same name! I am surprised that in general there is some growth! How many plants have already been cut into scrap metal, instead of using these capacities, but no, you need to work for this, and most importantly, think! What our "elite" can’t do!
      1. Vadim237 20 January 2020 22: 02 New
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        These factories were built primarily for a planned economy where there was no concept of profitability, environmental friendliness, and much more - they worked according to the plan now, and factories are being built depending on the demand in the market for a product with modern equipment and automation, no one will be engaged in production on factories with a depreciation of fixed assets of 70 to 95% - as an example, Khimprom, which has been poisoning the entire Volgograd region for decades and the Volgograd Tractor which also had products in the 90s, and complained about the quality of products back in the 80s.
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          Quote: Vadim237
          These plants were built primarily for a planned economy where there was no concept of profitability, environmental friendliness and much more - they worked according to plan

          I was not talking about the reasons why this was done, but about the real sector of the economy, namesake! So, if we compare the Chinese and mattress economies, then for mattresses, the share of services in GDP is 74%, and the real sector is 26%. China has an almost completely opposite picture. It’s always easier to bring equipment or machinery into the country than to build a factory, factory, or any production enterprise, easier and more profitable, I must say! But China planned and did this, which is why its economy is second in statistics, and in fact the first in the world. Let me remind you that an economy focused on the domestic market and producing everything for this market provides not only goods, but also jobs with all the consequences. Our market is saturated with imports; instead, it was possible to carry out re-equipment, modernization, etc. existing enterprises, which is much easier than building new ones. And then, if we don’t need plants, then we shouldn’t be indignant, why can’t we get off the gas / oil needle ?! Talking about the quality of some Soviet products is not worth it at all, everyone knows that.
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            we will not succeed in the domestic market. 350-400 million people are needed, but they will not be allowed to go west, so it is not profitable to build factories
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              we will not succeed in the domestic market. 350-400 million people are needed, but they will not be allowed to go west, so it is not profitable to build factories

              Nastya, please state your idea more clearly! What will not work on the domestic market, why do you need 350-400 million and who will not be allowed to go west? It is unprofitable to build factories only for investors, and even then at the first stage, it is always beneficial for the state to provide people with jobs and necessary goods! hi
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                products!!!! the internal one is very small and it is not profitable to build a plant. these goods will not be allowed to the west
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                  Quote: Nastia Makarova
                  products!!!!

                  To receive the goods, you need to produce it. This requires production facilities. You are in a world of illusions inspired by liberal economists! If you think that it is more profitable for our country to import goods (almost $ 100 billion from China alone) than to produce them at home, while providing Russian citizens with jobs, then I am truly sorry for you, study the economy!
                  1. Nastia makarova 21 January 2020 10: 26 New
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                    that’s exactly what you don’t understand in the economy, it’s certainly more profitable to bring from China than to produce at home and the price of this product will be 2 times higher
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                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      that’s exactly what you don’t understand in the economy, it’s certainly more profitable to bring from China than to produce at home and the price for this product will be 2 times higher

                      Nastya, a trader will never understand an economist or business executive, so I suggest you not post this topic anymore! hi
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                        economists around the world believe that it is not profitable only at you it is profitable
          2. Vadim237 21 January 2020 16: 24 New
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            Yes, yes, yes - now everyone will directly run all of ours instead of importing - only it will cost an order of magnitude more and not the fact that the quality will be better, and the last word remains with the client - and the customers as before bought iPhones, LG, Samsung, Rebook Nike and many other foreign brands will continue to buy them, and all of our competitors will be covered with a copper basin because of their unknown, lack of interest from customers, high prices and unprofitable production. But China is not Russia, its market economic activity began in the 70s with the attraction of foreign investment, which needed numerous cheap labor, very cheap energy carrier coal for their production capacities, and this is what their economy left for 50 years. For comparison, Russia began to go on world market economic tracks. 15 years ago, and even with a creak in the 2008th, the global crisis hit in 2014 a drop in oil prices sanctions and trade barriers outflow of investments and this is still ongoing.
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              Quote: Vadim237
              But China is not Russia, its market economic activity began in the 70s with the attraction of foreign investment, which needed numerous cheap labor, very cheap energy-coal for production capacities, and this is what their economy left

              In order to attract foreign investors, it is necessary to interest them, and for this it is necessary to show what the manufacturer / supplier knows how to do, and for this it is necessary to have technology and production capacities, and the re-equipment of the Chinese sector of the real economy began almost simultaneously with our restructuring, but they were smart enough to keep the planned economy and a single country. Although, it’s useless to write about such things to you, Nastya — it’s more profitable to buy foreign products, then sell them here than bother with our production! Well, when everyone refuses to supply, like the one in helicopter engines, then we’ll think about our own production! wink You are both right! Well done !!! good
      2. K-612-O 21 January 2020 07: 44 New
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        Japan has not been 3rd for a long time, Germany, by the way. But Japan does not have its own money, 188% of GDP is debt. And the Koreans are actively propping them up, and in order to finally ditch, quietly calmly, they are preparing the unification of the two Koreas.
  • New Year day 20 January 2020 15: 08 New
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    it can not be! The most effective managers and managers in Russia, and the economic growth in North Korea! laughing
    1. Lexus 20 January 2020 16: 37 New
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      it can not be! The most effective managers and managers in Russia

      You, as a doctor, if I am not mistaken, should understand that if you constantly pump out much more reasonable at a blood transfusion station, then this will not lead to anything good. We now see, in fact, "anemia".
      and economic growth in North Korea!

      On the contrary, they periodically "go under the dropper" and their own "organism" in every possible way cherish and cherish, which, obviously, leads to recovery.
  • posternakd 20 January 2020 15: 14 New
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    It seems to me in our country, except for the number of oligarchs, taxes and prices for everything - for a long time and nothing has been growing.
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      for a long time and nothing is growing.

      Well, you're wrong, colleague! The withdrawal of capital abroad, the stagnation of the economy and budget cuts are growing! good
  • Barmaleyka 20 January 2020 15: 19 New
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    In the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, GDP grew by 1,8 percent last year. According to forecasts, in 2020 this figure will reach 2,2 percent, and in 2021, 2,8 percent.
    how tired of these nonsense, it is IMPOSSIBLE to stupidly take and compare the growth of the economies of different countries, but I don’t even want to talk about idiocy called GDP
  • Svetlana 20 January 2020 15: 22 New
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    North Korea is a pretty closed country and trusting its broadcasting channel is optional.
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    2. vindigo 21 January 2020 09: 23 New
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      KBS is a South Korean channel.
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        Wow ... the author added a mention of KBS and that it is South Korean. :)
  • Gennady Fomkin 20 January 2020 15: 32 New
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    Unbelievable but true

    If North Korea has a standardized working day and two official days off per week, then for South Korea it is still perfectly normal to work 16 hours a day with one day off. Per month! By the way, leaving the job before the head of the South Koreans is not accepted.
    * The military budget of the "aggressive" North Korea is $ 1 billion per year. This state is not a member of any military blocs. The military budget of the "peace-loving" South Korea is $ 24 billion. It is in military alliance with the United States.
    * In South Korean schools, corporal punishment is practiced.

    Despite sanctions
    1. North Korea ranks 8th in the world for the production of silkworm cocoons.
    2. Takes 3rd place in the production of magnesite.
    3. It occupies the 4th place in the production of graphite.
    6. Shares with China the 1st place in the production of anthracite.
    7. The Musan Mine is Asia's largest open-type copper mine.
    9. It occupies the 8th place in growing vegetables, and the 10th in fruit.

    Only fact
    Since 1974, the DPRK abolished the taxation of individuals.
    1. K-612-O 20 January 2020 15: 52 New
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      As for fruits, you have turned down; they mainly go there from China, and about a normalized working day, by no means for everyone. And the level of salaries there is completely different, so the state gives out rations of necessary products.
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        Judging by the last interview of one of our workers in South Korea and often dangling in the DPRK, rations there are now given out only to privileged castes of the population.
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          Well, it’s just like ours, special distributors. But even simple people are also given minimal sets of products, and fruits and meat are an expensive pleasure.
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      Only fact

      I have been driving a South Korean car for ten years, which has been working smoothly all these years.
      And so far, I have not seen a single patriot who would ride a North Korean car, at least on holidays.
      for South Korea, it’s still working perfectly for 16 hours

      I don’t know how in the South, but in the North everyone gets up at exactly 6 to a hymn and God forbid you to oversleep or turn off the radio.))))
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        In the South exactly the same, but without an anthem. laughing
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  • prior 20 January 2020 15: 32 New
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    It seems that the time has come for Russia to survive.
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      For you it has passed. Cover yourself with a sheet and quietly crawl to the churchyard.
  • knn54 20 January 2020 15: 37 New
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    Slowly introducing elements of a market economy. By the way, there is a good example of Vietnam .. whose economy has moved to third place in the world in terms of pace of development. At the same time, the Communists remained in power.
  • saveall 20 January 2020 15: 39 New
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    If the party says there is contact, then there will be contact. This is a completely different type of economy and the comparison is completely incorrect. Their economy in a moment becomes mobilization by just one click from above. It is worth asking everyone a question: Are you ready to work for a stew 12 hours a day with one day off if you need to? Why so? And there, if it will be necessary to work, and even to praise the party at the same time ... We went through this. After the war, such a country was lifted from ruins, and even flew into space. When the whole nation has one goal and for this it is ready to sacrifice its mundane selfish Wishlist, a miracle happens ... and even corruption disappears.
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      That corruption does not disappear from this, at all.
  • vindigo 20 January 2020 15: 41 New
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    It's hard to talk about North Korea, as it is a closed country. Most of the information about her is South Korean propaganda. Naturally, they will speak badly about the enemy and invent all kinds of fables. But in fact, this country somehow lives. Signed to the VK group of the DPRK. They are trying to build something there, all kinds of factories. Enjoy the help of China. I think, taking into account the demographic situation in South Korea, the northerners will live quite well, while only memories will remain from the South Caucasus and the territory populated by Chinese and Muslims. I think the DPRK will survive Russia.
  • Vasily Ponomarev 20 January 2020 15: 59 New
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    Quote: andrt
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Russia is a country with huge resources!

    Who tricked you like that?
    Usually, resources are calculated per consumer. There are 146 lemons in Russia. Therefore, one gets more than modest.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Take and earn

    They take and earn. A lot of. But after dividing into 146 lemons (not the same, of course), it remains sparse.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Japan, a country with no resources at all, and the 3rd world economy.

    It was in 2018. There is a suspicion that at the end of 2019 it will become the second economy of the world, having surpassed China.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    RK, also rogue in terms of resources, but at our level in the world.

    The economy of Kazakhstan is the 9th in the world. It is larger than the Russian 3,8 times.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Why can't we do this?

    Because in Russia there is a relict society (heritage of the USSR). And the more advanced the society, the richer it lives. The dependence is direct. Devastation, it’s in the head.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Now, beggars like the DPRK are raising their economy faster than us!

    Do not believe everything that is written.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    The Americans came with factories, gave jobs, loaded the factories.

    Now the reverse process. And China is getting poorer.
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    We have private and foreign business stupidly strangling And this is to prevent competition.

    About relict society, I wrote to you a little higher. In relict societies, competition is only in the bazaar. On adjacent trays.

    I have only one question, according to what data can the Japanese economy soon surpass the Chinese one if it is 3 times smaller?
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    I agree, now the DPRK's dream, where else can I get a ration of rice for free?
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      Already there is no all rations there now for civil servants above the average rank.
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  • Nait 20 January 2020 16: 59 New
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    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Japan, a country with no resources at all, and the 3rd world economy.
    RK, also rogue in terms of resources, but at our level in the world.

    Is this about Kazakhstan?
    So, the RK of oil began to pump FOUR times more than in Soviet times.
    Over 80 million tons per year - and they pump more per capita than in Russia - this is such a trifle.
    But less comes to the country than in Russia.
    Plus metals, in uranium in second place in the world - now Kazakhstan is really a raw materials appendage.
    All factories are converted into shopping centers, trading floors ...
    All production except the extraction of raw materials is destroyed at the root,
    this is not Belarus for you, where Soviet aid was largely saved by Russia
    production capacity.
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    Russians harness for a long time. Let's look at the ride.
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    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Japanese, 4th Curling Iron - 82.2 Lyama sold consoles!
    People took the raw materials and did! Why can't we do this?

    We make much more technologically advanced toys - nuclear submarines (who else does?), Rockets, manned space exploration,
    GLONASS, ..... We do, oddly enough, wide-body aircraft - we do little, but the technology is alive, you see and the MS-21 will fly up.
    In the nuclear industry in the first place.

    Do not sour, everything is just beginning.
    The icebreaker "Leader" was laid down, the world has never seen such a thing before, just think
    he will be able to drive ships in sowing. MORPUTES ALL YEAR ROUND:
    http://agitpro.su/v-mire-takogo-nikto-ne-videl-medvedev-naposledok-ostavil-arkticheskogo-lidera/

    The "leader" is the leader. World
    The main task, goal and planned capabilities of the icebreaker are This is to navigate the Northern Sea Route year-round. The project includes the ability of a ship to overcome ice up to 4 meters thick. For this, two of its RITM-400 reactor plants with a thermal capacity of 315 MW each will produce 120 MW on the shaft, which no one has ever seen in the world.

    Recall that even the newest, still under construction, most powerful icebreakers in the world such as the Arctic have a capacity of only 60 MW. And just think about the meaning of the word “only” in this context! Emoticons can be arranged to taste.
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  • Million 20 January 2020 18: 15 New
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    This is because they do not have Putin
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      The DPRK is a pure concentration camp of a totalitarian regime that lives solely on slave labor and smuggling with other countries, a large part of society in which it is divorced from the rest of the world by an internal information blockade.
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  • xGibSoNx 20 January 2020 18: 43 New
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    North Korean economy grows faster than Russian
    We don’t know what? Or did Uncle Trump and Boy Un solve some kind of muddy trouble?
  • Mountain shooter 20 January 2020 18: 45 New
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    The reliability of the DPRK data is highly doubtful. Where do they get these statistics?
  • businessv 20 January 2020 19: 54 New
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    Therefore, South Korean calculations are in many ways approximate.
    As if we are accurate! smile Rosstat says that we have 53% of GDP - services, the rest is the real sector! 47% off! Almost 2 times more mattresses in percentage terms! How can this be ?! Despite the fact that the real sector of the economy has been destroyed for more than 29 years! This is how many Soviets have built everything that they still cannot destroy?
    1. Procopius Nesterov 20 January 2020 20: 41 New
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      In developed countries, the service sector is even larger. If you do not believe Rosstat data, that is, the IMF and World Bank data for Russia.
      The communists write that there are no Soviet factories left, now they can’t destroy them.
      1. businessv 21 January 2020 09: 17 New
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        Quote: Procopius Nesterov
        The communists write that there are no Soviet factories left, now they can’t destroy them.

        What should I decide? Communists write, but should I be determined? laughing And then, what is my opinion at odds with what the "Communists write"? And I brought the data of Rosstat, what is the problem ?! Faith is a spiritual concept, read carefully and before you write the answer, you must first understand what the opponent wrote! hi
    2. Vadim237 20 January 2020 22: 12 New
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      The United States imports 1,5 times more than exports, Russia exports for 2018 450 billion dollars not raw 125 billion dollars, but 238 billion imports.
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        Quote: Vadim237
        US imports 1,5 times more than exports

        What am I talking about ?! Their market is internally oriented, as I said! Moreover, the largest in the world in consumption! How is the meaning of your post different from mine? smile
  • Procopius Nesterov 20 January 2020 20: 42 New
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    Pyongyang does not exchange data with international economic institutions on the financial and economic situation. Therefore, South Korean calculations are in many ways approximate.
    That is, fortune-telling on coffee grounds.
  • Shahno 20 January 2020 21: 07 New
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    Quote: Vadim237
    They promise to bring the number of domestic components to 100%.

    how, tell me

    if the CHAIRS for the crew are made by the British laughing

    Well, the glider and the engine are still Russian-made ..
    Although .. Devices for production, individual units. Glider and remote control is an abstraction.
  • Mentat 20 January 2020 21: 35 New
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    When this jack manul offends me. him like water off a duck, when I tell him the truth in his eyes. banyat me. request
    Sylvester is completely right +
    They can’t cope with YouTube. The truth is for now ...

    Could you please give specific sources of this “truth in YouTube” so that it is clear who its lights and heralds are for you?
  • Victor March 47 20 January 2020 22: 23 New
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    In the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, GDP grew by 1,8 percent last year. According to forecasts, in 2020 this figure will reach 2,2 percent, and in 2021, 2,8 percent.

    Such data was released by the South Korean television channel KBS.
    Unfortunately, the Russian economy cannot even boast of such a growth rate.

    No wonder, it’s amazing how something is growing at all with such brilliant experts and managers .. Going upstream, oil has risen in price. Trumpeting that growth .. Oil has fallen, shouting sanctions .. Always someone is to blame, but not they ..and they have been building for 20 years .. houses, castles, yachts ..

    I will give 2 examples. Distracted but instructive. And you wind on a mustache.
    1, Last year you ate ONE chicken. And by chance, did not die of hunger, you still have good health and old supplies. TWO chickens were eaten this year. The growth is colossal. 200%, but despite this, you were taken to the cemetery. Health was broken last year, and there were no reserves left.
    2. The Dutchman eats 300 kg of meat per year. The question is, why the hell should he develop his production, since he is already stuffed with cholesterol on his nostrils, and his weight is twice the norm?
    So, before you sculpt a humpback, learn to THINK.
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      Quote: Victor March 47
      Before sculpting a hunchback, learn to THINK

      This is not the trend. This is just the trend

      You do not reflect. You distribute ...

      request yes laughing
  • Victor March 47 20 January 2020 22: 54 New
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    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Alex 2020
    I look, the tradition of minus for the truth, as well as for accurate and specific answers to questions, lives and thrives.

    minus those who live well in Russia

    I am a minus. Not because my pension allows me to LIVE WELL, but because I was taught at school and in the future in a real way. And I understand that investing in industry having such will only be when the Sharikovs and Schwonders die out as a class. And they will invest in long-term construction when they are sure that 1917 will not happen again with expropriation. And now the money is floating away and WILL BE floating away, because we are all burning with the desire to select and share. The poison of the belief instilled in the Bolsheviks that everything around us is still poisoning our consciousness and our lives.
    Moses dragged his 40 years in the desert. When they arrived at the place, the remaining living old man asked, why are we 40 years old ... This, after all, was very close, Promised Land. To which Moses answered that those who lived in sin would not be able to live righteously in the Pure Land. It was necessary that the last sinner should die and not bring this infection here. So, we are to blame, and not those who build yachts instead of factories. The plant can be selected. But the yacht, no.
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      I applaud you! Bravo! And I’ll add: as long as we don’t have a civil society, we will have a government that we deserve.
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  • PValery53 20 January 2020 23: 05 New
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    "The North Korean economy is growing faster than the Russian"
    - Whose economy have we not yet managed to keep up with ?! - The level of money wasting in the state is such that there is nothing to build the economy on!
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    They all remembered, Germany was let through, from which the victorious countries 55 years ago were taken out by convoys,
    from factories to harmonica. Now the engine of the economy.
    1. aszzz888 21 January 2020 01: 43 New
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      They all remembered, Germany was let through, from which the victorious countries 55 years ago, they all exported by trains,
      from factories to harmonica. Now the engine of the economy.

      And how much did Nemchur take out of the USSR during the occupation of our lands, not counting the geyrops? Weak to count?
      1. Kushka 22 January 2020 00: 05 New
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        Comment accepted. But in the list of countries that it is not clear how (for me) got rich, I leave Germany. They want 200 or 400 billion cubic meters of gas, the price is 300-400, and at least 600 bucks, you, Vanya, let's move there in Siberia, add two pipes, and this money means us ... This means the vanquished.
        Instead of Germany I put Poland (also missed). Hitler began with them in 39-41, and ended with them in 44-45
        - twice by fire and sword (google the ruins yourself). In the 73rd we brought the marines to Swinoujscie.
        While the marines attacked the dunes, the water left the canal, we fell to the wall and gave the go.
        get off the city. They got it in the channel - they rake it on anything and shout "give a drop." In the city the same thing-
        give a drop, give a zvizdechku, the lieutenants took them half a pocket to the city - they have been begging since childhood! All Soviet-razors, televisions, cars (Varshavyanka saw-not offset). And now I read - Poland, with a flick of the wrist, takes out 48 yards of dead green presidents and
        buys Fu-35 (Karl-48 lard!). And they also have the Turkish card in the suit.
        And their teachers, doctors there, no gu-gu - they have sho - yellow vests are not for sale, or they are so good. Again - where did the money come from, Zin ?.
        Here is their saying to the point - sho zabarzo (spoiled), then not fayno (so what good, and without them missiles lose)
  • arnulla 21 January 2020 00: 03 New
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    It is logical that North Korea even outperformed us in terms of GDP growth. And what, were there any other prerequisites?))
  • Redline 21 January 2020 00: 41 New
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    We are waiting for VO news that American and Russian columns were blocked by aliens
  • aszzz888 21 January 2020 01: 40 New
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    In the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, last year, GDP growth amounted to 1,8 percent.
    According to S&P, in 2019, it grew, according to various sources, by 1-1,3 percent
    0.5% can be attributed to statistical error. And she will endure paper.
  • Archivist Vasya 21 January 2020 10: 13 New
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    Well, they are developing normally, well done. There is no superfluous, everything is taken into account, + there is an ideology! In addition, a small country is easier to manage.
  • Mentat 21 January 2020 12: 59 New
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    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: Petr1
    When this jack manul offends me. him like water off a duck, when I tell him the truth in his eyes. banyat me. request
    Sylvester is completely right +
    They can’t cope with YouTube. The truth is for now ...

    Could you please give specific sources of this “truth in YouTube” so that it is clear who its lights and heralds are for you?

    It’s clear that we haven’t waited for “sources of truth in YouTube”. Apparently, they are even ashamed to mention them in a decent society.
  • Kostadinov 21 January 2020 13: 04 New
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    As for the information of the South Korean television channel KBS, it does not say how the DPRK manages to achieve economic growth under the most severe international sanctions.

    Sanctions lead to import substitution and the growth of the economy. For example, the export of coal was banned, and the DPRK began to produce more electricity and more fertilizer.

    Moreover, in 2017 and 2018, the country experienced a rapid decline in GDP - 3,5 and 4,2 percent, respectively. At the same time, inflation in the country today is ahead of GDP growth.

    In 2017, officially announced the growth of the DPRK economy amounted to 3,7%. No decline in GDP and no inflation was observed in the DPRK either in 2017, or in 2018, and even more so in 2019. A noticeable increase in budget revenues hit all the children of the ages. At the plenary meeting of the Labor Party in December, information broke that in 2019 they had a record harvest in the history of the DPRK, which is directly related to the sanction and prohibition of coal export.

    Therefore, South Korean calculations are in many ways approximate.

    Rather, they are only propaganda in nature.
  • Victor March 47 21 January 2020 23: 02 New
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    Quote: Kronos
    Well, here is a typical example of liberal scum in which everyone who thinks differently is not subhuman

    This is an example of not thinking in general. Well, I would have raised some objections, one could argue. In a dispute, after all, is born ....
    But a different path was chosen — a terrible horse-drawn stupid insult. Consequently, the bastards are alive, having dispossessed and destroying the normal hard workers, on whom Russia and Russia have been holding on for thousands of years. This is the clearest evidence of my innocence.
  • Victor March 47 21 January 2020 23: 18 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    I applaud you! Bravo! And I’ll add: as long as we don’t have a civil society, we will have a government that we deserve.

    The concept of civil society in itself is not clear and blurry. I would not apply undefined definitions. I understand this definition - the middle class. This is a part of the people who live quietly without the assistance of the state. They choose their occupation for themselves. Of course, consistent with the laws. And working honestly, producing and consuming. This part of the people has NO superiors. He does not have to fulfill obligations to increase and save everything that the governing and leading party is aiming at. They are independent of the local official. They are equally dangerous to them as globules that can burn and destroy in one night, and those super billionaires who can ruin for fun and look at you as if they were an attached bee. A part of the people, who are the MAJORITY in the country and who elects their representatives to the legislators, who write laws, are not in the interests of a crook, a ragged ball or gilded potanin. It takes time. A lot of time.
  • Sergey M. Karasev 22 January 2020 02: 04 New
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    Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Well, in fact, Golovan was bombarded, does the truth follow him !?

    No, he was minded for ordinary sloppiness
  • wooja 22 January 2020 03: 49 New
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    Naturally, the DPRK is more a state than the Russian Federation ......
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      Quote: wooja
      Naturally, the DPRK is more a state than the Russian Federation ......

      This is by what criteria do you rate?))))
  • Kostadinov 22 January 2020 10: 42 New
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    Quote: Kushka
    They all remembered, Germany was let through, from which the victorious countries 55 years ago were taken out by convoys,
    from factories to harmonica. Now the engine of the economy.

    1. From Germany in 1945 there was little that could be seen. But to bring in and restore it was necessary to beat everything and not to whom it was beaten for paying.
    2. The fact that Germany destroyed and drove away, not only from the USSR, but from all the occupation and puppet countries, is not enough for it and will pay a thousand years.
    1. Kushka 22 January 2020 14: 31 New
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      Quote: Kushka
      Comment accepted. But in the list of countries that it is not clear how (for me) got rich, I leave Germany. They want 200 or 400 billion cubic meters of gas, the price is 300-400, and at least 600 bucks, you, Vanya, let's move there in Siberia, add two pipes, and this money means us ... This means the vanquished.
      Instead of Germany I put Poland (also missed). Hitler began with them in 39-41, and ended with them in 44-45
      - twice by fire and sword (google the ruins yourself). In the 73rd we brought the marines to Swinoujscie.
      While the marines attacked the dunes, the water left the canal, we fell to the wall and gave the go.
      get off the city. They got it in the channel - they rake it on anything and shout "give a drop." In the city the same thing-
      give a drop, give a zvizdechku, the lieutenants took them half a pocket to the city - they have been begging since childhood! All Soviet-razors, televisions, cars (Varshavyanka saw-not offset). And now I read - Poland, with a flick of the wrist, takes out 48 yards of dead green presidents and
      buys Fu-35 (Karl-48 lard!). And they also have the Turkish card in the suit.
      And their teachers, doctors there, no gu-gu - they have sho - yellow vests are not for sale, or they are so good. Again - where did the money come from, Zin ?.
      Here is their saying to the point - sho zabarzo (spoiled), then not fayno (so what good, and without them missiles lose)
      1. Kushka 22 January 2020 22: 50 New
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        It’s bad to count money in someone else’s pockets, I know that. Here's another walk in the Czechs and throw. These are those
        bee-eaters, whom they all despicably abandoned, torn to pieces, occupied by all and sundry
        their tanks ... They say the Jews are smarter than everyone in the world, well, where are they ?. We climbed into a sand hole, above them basins and buckets fly (some explode), I had to spend money on air defense systems in every entrance,
        besides the sea - give a missile boat, give him a rocket. Tolley is the business of the Czechs — not the ocean, nor the sea.
        And why should there be SVPs - how many icebreakers alone are needed, AUG in the Mediterranean Sea - so an airplane into the water
        blighted-one losses. Or Siberia there - they saw, drove through somehow. Well, there’s a lot
        gases, diamonds. So go pick them out of the permafrost. Still freeze yourself something for the money
        not for sale. And so they live, without the SSBN, AUG, VKS, without oil and gas. And they live well, all over
        to see. But I felt sorry for my parents in the 90s, then he barely got out himself, now the children
        hunchback. Maybe even the grandchildren will heal, well, as in the Czech Republic?