Fourth day Russia with a new prime minister and old government

The fourth day the work of the government is taking place in a remarkable mode. It consists in the following: the only person without the prefix “acting” (acting) continues to be the chairman of the Russian cabinet, approved at his post by Vladimir Putin. All federal ministers and deputy prime ministers remain “from the time” of Dmitry Medvedev, having received the prefixes mentioned last Thursday.

Fourth day Russia with the new prime minister and the old government.

The formation of the cabinet last weekend, as suggested by individual experts, did not take place. And it could hardly have taken place for a number of reasons. One reason is the absence of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. There was simply no one to legally secure the proposed (hypothetically) candidates. The president tried to deal with foreign affairs - the settlement of the situation in Libya.

The first working day of the new week has arrived. The government website does not display any information activity at the moment, as does the previously appointed Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin. Either there are problems with the formation of the final list of “job seekers” for ministerial posts, or, by Moscow standards, noon is too early time to make some important personnel decisions, especially at the government level.

Meanwhile, the network remembered an interview with Mikhail Mishustin, Vladimir Pozner, on the basis of which the nature of the new Prime Minister is being discussed. In this interview, the journalist asked a question about who Mishustin would like to be in life. The answer was this:

By Steve Jobs.

Mishustin then called one of his desires: "so that there are no poor in Russia."

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Mishustin vs Proust pic.twitter.com/SjBQqYWMpQ

- Alexey Kirilenko (@Kirilenko_a) January 16, 2020

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[NEXUS]

Let’s wait and see what kind of prime minister there is and what to cook with ... it’s too early to talk about anything. The first conclusions can be drawn in half a year, not earlier. Despite the fact that politicians are very fond of talking and promising, at the same time they always had a bad memory.

[seti]

Judging by the information that I managed to collect about him, it should be much more intelligent than Medvedev.

[NEXUS]

Quote: seti

Judging by the information that I managed to collect about him, it should be much more intelligent than Medvedev.

Anyone can be cleverer than Medvedev, since "there is no money, but you are holding on" is a rare companion without political will.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Andrey!
I am not a politician, but I do not think that any cardinal decisions should be expected from Mishustin in the very first days of his premiership.

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hi Andrey!

Hello Pasha.

Quote: bouncyhunter

I am not a politician, but I do not think that any cardinal decisions should be expected from Mishustin in the very first days of his premiership.

No one is waiting. I have my own opinion about the government and the rearrangements in the Kremlin. And to be honest, I do not expect anything good from these changes.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NEXUS

I don’t expect anything good from these changes

I don’t share your pessimism, but still prefer to wait for the results.

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I don’t share your pessimism, but still prefer to wait for the results.

Pasha, you can share my opinion with me or consider that everything will be fine. But ... there are a lot of moments that completely nullify all the merits of the Kremlin and you know about them.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NEXUS

can you share my opinion with me

Friendly, that is the essence of the discussion, that I can share or not someone's opinion. And also in the fact that I can express my own. And how it will be perceived is another matter.

Quote: NEXUS

there are a lot of moments that completely nullify all the merits of the Kremlin and you know about them

Your truth, but I'm used to analyzing (like you) information in order to search for pros, not minuses.

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Your truth, but I'm used to analyzing (like you) information in order to search for pros, not minuses.

Perhaps this is already my age ... I'm waiting for the worst, so as not to be disappointed after. Well, if it is better, then the joy will be double. But in this case, I’m afraid I will not really be happy. Although, as I said above, let's see. Maybe I just don’t know how to cook.

[bk316]

Perhaps this is my age ... I'm waiting for the worst, so that after not to be disappointed

And I agree with Pavel, to wait for the worst all the time - to live all my life in depression.
Moreover, very often this expectation is meaningless, you still can’t do anything

[NEXUS]

Quote: bk316

And I agree with Pavel, to wait for the worst all the time - to live all my life in depression.

No ... depression has nothing to do with it. With age, apparently you become not an optimist or a pessimist, but a realist. And how many prime ministers and presidents there have been in my life ... well, they weren’t particularly pleased. I just look at it without the pink dreams of a happy tomorrow that our rulers will bestow upon us like manna from heaven.

[bk316]

I just look at it without the pink dreams of a happy tomorrow that our rulers will bestow upon us like manna from heaven.

Well, to wait for this you have to be clinical ...
I'm talking about the pros of the changes. There are no disadvantages.
In recent years, I will give my ladies a slight sense of disgust - an unpleasant sensation, I do not expect this from Mishustin.

[bouncyhunter]

Hello Volodya!

Quote: bk316

from Mishustin I do not expect this

Me too, but judging by the way the minusakers try, our optimism is little shared.

[bk316]

Hello Volodya! hi

Hello Pasha.
Well minusyakers supposed to minus.
And I'm a cautious optimist in life

[NEXUS]

Quote: bk316

There are no disadvantages.

Of course not ... how is that? For example, if the government says that the crisis happened in our Far Far Away state, it seems to be bad. But with entom for the third job I got a job, you run, you breathe fresh air. Positive? And there was no time to get sick.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: NEXUS

I just look at it without the pink dreams of a happy tomorrow that our rulers will bestow upon us like manna from heaven.

I share your opinion not because "I look at it without rosy dreams," but according to the message of the Darkest One to the SF. In the message, he made small handouts in the form of allowances to the mat. capital and free meals for schoolchildren. Everything they are ready for today. Yes, this is, of course, helping young families. What about the rest?
Now, if he said that the minimum wage should be 2 times higher than the subsistence level, that would be something. And so, just a small handout to show how good I am. But, due to the low level of GDP growth (1,5% and this is an indicator of the "success" of the DAM government) per year, they cannot take such a step. Therefore, we can only hope for Mishustin's success in GDP growth. And this takes time and, as I believe, six months is not enough for our officials. They need a strong kick so that they move. But Vissarionich is not on them.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

But, due to the low level of GDP growth (1,5% and this is an indicator of the "success" of the DAM government) per year, they cannot take such a step.

Inspired by ..

[your1970]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Now, if he said that the minimum wage should be 2 times higher than the subsistence minimum, that would be something.

-That is -that would be something from the side of business - namely, the wild screeching "Kashmariyat small business! Profit and so no !!! Why pay ??? !!!!"
Repeatedly in discussions here at VO such met

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

But, due to the low level of GDP growth

-and he just depends on the business which - "Kashmariyat small business !!!"
looped ....

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: your1970

-that's exactly, it would be something from the side of business - namely, the wild screeching "Kashmaryat small business !!! Profit and so no !!! Why pay ??? !!!!"

And we have a "small business" - a saint? Can't breathe in his direction? They are already cheating the state by paying salaries in envelopes so as not to pay taxes. Started paying not in envelopes? Well, he will not go to Seychelles every year, well, he will go broke, all over the world bankruptcies occur in thousands. So it was not effective, what can you do about it? Well, let's blow the dust off them. So they will become insolent very quickly, as big business has become insolent. What's the difference between them? Only in the amount of income, but in essence they are the same - profit. That's what they're praying for. And it doesn't matter which way, the main thing is profit. They have no goal of improving the lives of their employees. Therefore, the state should force "businessmen" of all levels to improve the lives of their workers by adopting laws on minimum wages.

[your1970]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

the state should force "businessmen"

The risk is extremely high to come to empty counters and a sort of cheese - "cheese" ....

[Cottodraton]

It is unlikely. Only if a small business is banned.
Small business is a market trade and services sector mainly.
Few people produce something - the margin is not the same, but there should be more brains by an order of magnitude

[your1970]

Even prohibiting is not necessary - just start collecting taxes completely ...
And if you pay premiums for reliable reports (20 percent) about tax evasion, there will be no business at all in a month

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I don’t share your pessimism, but still prefer to wait for the results.

And what results do you prefer to wait?
Which of the 34th NWF (in ruble terms) will be allocated in 000, 000st, 000nd, 000rd and 2020th for ≈ 2021 rubles for the implementation of programs credited to Putin's message? That is, the NWF is “torn apart” by as much as 2022 trillion, which will make up 2023% as a percentage, while earning from investments (on the content of funds in securities and liabilities) 2024 trillion. rubles (500% rate) ...
I.e. The Medvedev government did not know that for the growth of the economy growth is needed not only in collecting taxes, but also in industrial production and now they will demonstrate it to us ...
Who? Created industrial potential? Or growth will provide these:

[bouncyhunter]

Note: you yourself place accents in forecasts . I want to wait results !

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Note: you yourself place accents in the forecasts. And I want to wait for the results!

I will understand a sane person who expects results in economics from an economist. I see no logic in expecting changes in the economy from the "fiscal", from the "tax collector". Have you already waited for the results from Chubais? Holding a nanoglobe in your hands?
Is there any progress from Sechin? Gasoline at a gas station costs 10 rubles per liter?
Did Miller get gas discounts? Electricity in a country with a closed (CLOSED !!!) energy system costs UNIVERSAL !!! 2 rubles per kilowatt? Has water become cheaper? Are the rates down?
And this is all that is mined, growing and happening in Russia, APRIORI cannot be subject to an unreasonable rise in price.
But YOU !!! Want to wait for the results ... For those who did not have time to listen, I repeat in an expanded version:

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Village guys
Wanted milk.
They say find a cow,
They climbed under the bull.
Pull the bull by the speck:
"Give us, little cat, milk" ...

Cook the buckets!

[Cottodraton]

In capital countries, capital should develop industrial potential, not the state. And here "capital" only plays in "buy-sell".

[Uncle lee]

Quote: NEXUS

I do not expect anything good.

I want everything at once! And get a shish and gradually!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I want everything at once! And get a shish and gradually!

Wrong!
They promised everything gradually (by 2021):

And we’ll get a shish for over four years ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: NEXUS

No one is waiting. I have my own opinion about the government and the rearrangements in the Kremlin. And to be honest, I do not expect anything good from these changes.

However, there is one definite plus. The bear cub, albeit in the shadows, but went away, which undoubtedly pleased a large number of Russians, since the image of him and "merit" causes a negative among the majority of the people. Well, time will tell how Mishustin will show himself. Perhaps the implementation of national projects will go faster, but for the average man in the street, little will change. This is yes.

[seti]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I am not a politician, but I do not think that any cardinal decisions should be expected from Mishustin in the very first days of his premiership.

So no one is waiting immediately and much. We will see. Nothing here depends on us. But we already know Medvedev and this is a new man.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: seti

this is a new man

Exactly . So let's see if it will be that "the new broom sweeps in a new way."

[Thrall]

In Belarus, I think, 98 percent of the population doesn’t know the name of their prime minister (or the pre-minister’s name) - I don’t even know the name of the body that he heads )
But in Russia, everything is different, something depends on the personalities ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: seti

But we already know Medvedev and this is a new man.

How interesting! Just like in the movies:

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[seti]

In any case, his work in the Internal Revenue Service causes only praise. Yes, many do not like her, but in Russia they pay taxes all or almost all. And this is important for the country. And for example, in a neighboring country 4-4 if you paid taxes you are rare .. You understand. If you are headed for change and they will be implemented, and this is not empty talk. We’ll wait and see, but I would like to see communism .. that I have a happy future.

[NEXUS]

Quote: seti

We wait and see but I would like to see communism.

You know, only in Russian there is a saying-MONEY-EVIL. And while there is money that determines our existence, there can be no talk of any communism, socialism, paradise on Earth.

[Mestny]

Now money is a universal single measure of the effectiveness of human activity. Unit of measurement.
Accordingly, there will always be those who have more.
Whatever system you propose instead of money, the same thing will be true for it. Someone will have more.

[DenZ]

Quote: Mestny

Whatever system you propose instead of money, the same thing will be true for it. Someone will have more.

It's hard to disagree, but there are many "buts". The bulk of the money supply in the state may also be at the disposal of the state itself (as under socialism) Under capitalism, it is highly desirable not to allow large distortions of welfare when 20% of people own 80% of the capital in the country. Here is where the fantasies of who and under what system will be more efficient to consume and work.

[asbond]

If there are banknotes in the country, then there should be people who have a lot of them.
(Ilya Ilf and Evgeny Petrov. Golden Calf)

[seti]

What I would like to see is 100 years ago to see how everything would turn around .. The Russian Empire and how it would be if it were not involved in World War I but would sit and look at other people's showdowns from the outside. Half a billion of their compatriots, full of villages and cities, a strong economy. I always said that helping someone with a Russian soldier / resources / money in blood and then evil. A Russian soldier should defend exclusively his country and sit at home with his family and not fight for those who then spit on his grave.

[your1970]

Quote: seti

The Russian Empire and as if it were if they did not get involved in World War I but would sit and look at other people's showdowns and from the side.

- It would be exactly the same. Only a little later ....

[Altona]

Quote: seti

We wait and see but I would like to see communism.

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An amazing split of consciousness, to expect communism from an ultraliberal and a corrupt official. And even praise him. Yes, Mr. Mishustin has well digitized the tax one and now every grasshopper can be fined for the slightest arrears. And at the same time, you don’t think why many corrupt officials easily leave the country with money. But without the Federal Tax Service it is impossible to withdraw significant amounts from the country. However, you don't need to think, the TV said that everything is fine, that means everything is fine for you and communism is about to come, a person does not play an iPhone, but understands how to drive information on servers. You will see only new pressure on the population and new indulgences to our exporters, who are cheaply taking resources out of the country. Of course, I don't mean you personally, just your example clearly shows the jingoistic patriotic discourse that warms the heart of Kudrinsky PR specialists so easily, how easily they manage slaves. "Mishustin is a professional, so tomorrow there will be communism."

[Andrey VOV]

Withdrawing money from the country quite legally is quite simple enough, without violating the law at this stage ... You try to get your VAT back on the export operation, this is where all the circles of hell go ... now it’s a little bit easier with the number, but Nonetheless

[your1970]

Quote: Andrey VOV

Withdrawing money from the country quite legally is quite simple enough, without violating the law at this stage ... You try to get your VAT back on the export operation, this is where all the circles of hell go ... now it’s a little bit easier with the number, but Nonetheless

-Support ...
It is quite simple to deduce and the Federal Tax Service here will not hinder and have never hindered. This is not their field of activity

[Blacksmith 55]

Give him 100 days, then you can judge.
It has already become a practice to give the newly appointed leader this term so that he gets on the line.
Indeed, wait and see.

[Cananecat]

Hundred days? Somehow it’s customary to count by the day. Bad trend. What can the government do for a hundred? Discuss and adopt the law. But how much this bill will be necessary and effective, even two hundred days will not show.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Canecat

To discuss

quite possible!!

Quote: Canecat

and pass the law.

and this is unlikely ... this is the executive branch, not the legislative !!!

[Gardamir]

Judging by the information that I gathered about him, he should not be the head of government.

[Mestny]

Share it. Tell us the truth !.

[depressant]

Gardamir - to the point! Not having time to be born as prime minister, Mishustin managed to be noted as a genius: "We have no middle class ... In Russia there is no one to tax the rich from." Doesn't look in the mirror, or what? Or is his wife invisible?

[Svarog]

Quote: depressant

"We have no middle class ... In Russia there is no one to tax the rich from." Doesn't look in the mirror, or what? Or is his wife invisible?

The fact of the matter is that all the rich in our country are invisible .. and they do not want to pay the progressive tax .. there is no middle class, and the rest are poor or close to this .. And what changes can there be? Neither the economic model nor the political have changed. I do not share completely optimistic comments. Everything will be as before, as correctly written by Uncle Lee (Vladimir), we’ll get it, but gradually ..

[bk316]

We don't have a middle class ... There is no one in Russia to tax the rich. "

He, unlike you, knows how to count, how much money can you take in total from people like him?

[your1970]

Quote: depressant

Gardamir - to the point! Not having time to be born as prime minister, Mishustin managed to be noted as a genius: "We have no middle class ... In Russia there is no one to tax the rich from." Doesn't look in the mirror, or what? Or is his wife invisible?

We don’t have a middle class as such. And he and his wife middle class does not apply in principle ...

[GKS 2111]

The discontent of the people had to be somehow restrained. Some kind of handouts can no longer be fixed, so it was decided to dismiss the government. It seems like new promises, new ministers, new hopes. And for a while this will work. I do not exclude the possibility that the opposition will be invited to take part in the formation of the new government - such a democracy. But essentially this will not change anything. There will be no change of course, Mishustin has already explicitly stated this. All the same power in the interests of the oligarchs. Vaughn and Medvedev have already found a new place.

[Altona]

Quote: GKS 2111

Some kind of handouts can no longer be fixed, so it was decided to dismiss the government.

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Well sent if everyone stayed in place. The key piece is Siluanov, the rest are pawns. And if this bald sponger is in place, then nothing has changed. And he will certainly be in the "new" government.

[GKS 2111]

Quote: Altona

all remained in place.

There will be some changes, of course ... It is likely that the main changes in the new composition of the cabinet will take place in the social block. These are the Minister of Health Veronika Skvortsova, the Minister of Labor and Social Protection Topilin, and the Minister of Education Olga Vasilieva. It is the work of the social The block caused the most irritation amid stagnant national projects and ongoing optimization, that is, the reduction of schools and hospitals. These ministers retain their posts from the beginning of the tenth years and managed to accumulate a lot of anti-rating. Still, a little shuffle ... For visibility.

[Cottodraton]

Another thing is if the bald lip-sleeper is constantly poked into the side, not giving relaxation.
Here Medvedev relaxed them

[tihonmarine]

Quote: seti

Judging by the information that I managed to collect about him, it should be much more intelligent than Medvedev.

Only "Kinder surprise" was more stupid than Medvedev.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: NEXUS

Let’s wait and see what kind of prime minister there is and what to cook with ... it’s too early to say anything. Despite the fact that politicians are very fond of talking and promising, at the same time they always had a bad memory.

Too early to say, controversial statement. For us, the politician himself has already said everything. And then his memory will not fail.
1. There will be no progressive taxation. (-)
2. Pension reform will not be canceled (-)
3. Nationalization, even micro will not.
On the other hand, hope is my earthly compass.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Mavrikiy

On the other hand, hope is my earthly compass.

It’s like in a joke ... when a wife is raped in front of her husband’s eyes, and he is so affectionate, tolerant, dear, it can all work out.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Mavrikiy

On the other hand, hope is my earthly compass.

It’s like in a joke ... when a wife is raped in front of her husband’s eyes, and he is so affectionate, tolerant, dear, it can all work out.

It is evident that memory is failing you. This is the film "An Ordinary Miracle". They didn't rape, they just choked them.

[depressant]

And let's turn to the numbers.
Netizens have already calculated everything.
The insignificance of the amount of tax from the super-rich - MYTH! In Russia, 7% of the population receives 83% of total income. This is approximately 2 million citizens. Of the 7%, the super-rich make up only 10%, that is, approximately 200 thousand people. So they received income of $ 2019 billion for 700. If we add at least another 13% to 22% of the tax on them, which is very sparing compared to other cap.countries, then the additional amount withdrawn in favor of the budget would be
700 billion $ × 22% = $ 154 billion,
That is 9,7 trillion rubles.
This is almost half the budget for 2019.
Few?

[your1970]

Quote: depressant

This is almost half the budget for 2019.
Few?

- only you forget one nuance - they will withdraw this money and that's it ... And if you put them in (there are all of them for that), then next year instead of

Quote: depressant

9,7 trillion rubles.
This is almost half the budget for 2019.

will ZEROGrand Zero ...

[your1970]

Quote: your1970

Quote: depressant

This is almost half the budget for 2019.
Few?

- only you forget one nuance - they will withdraw this money and that's it ... And if you put them in (there are all of them for that), then next year instead of

Quote: depressant

9,7 trillion rubles.
This is almost half the budget for 2019.

will ZEROGrand Zero ...

-and at the same time- we are ALREADY passed once ... in 1918 ... taken away and divided ...
Only then did the oligarchs take everything out with gold / bryulikami, who managed ...
And already in the summer of 1918, "war communism" began - this is when Rembrandt was exchanged for a piece of bacon or 10 potatoes ...
And the current one - money will be withdrawn in half an hour ... and we will again pass "war communism" - change Logan / Vesta for a pound of bacon

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: depressant

you somehow organize with those who read about the oil and gas budget of Russia !!!

[Paul Siebert]

Our valiant media have already begun their usual work.
Chemistry teacher found the new prime minister, who can not forgive herself that she put Misha Mishustin the only four in the certificate of secondary education.
"Reliable person!" - says, - "He pulls his load."
Then, in a broken voice, he asks Mikhail Vladimirovich not to rush. And make all the inhabitants of Russia happy ...
I listened and realized - I'm almost ready! Become happy. To live ...

[depressant]

"Reliable person"?
A man who began his career as a prime minister with a blatant lie about the lack of the rich in us, immediately positioning himself as an enemy of ordinary citizens, whom he will rip off. How and how many promised bounties of the president reach the consumer is another big question. The bureaucracy will do everything to reach the minimum possible size, supporting the myth of a good king and bad boyars. And the sprouts of the newly minted prime minister's work on the tax press for the bulk of the population have been observed for six months now. In some small stores, computer scales appeared with a panel turned to the buyer, the information from which goes directly to the tax office. A small businessman will not get away from the full amount of taxes. The self-employed will not leave. If you want to work, put the scales with a large panel on which the type of product, grams, price per kilogram, total bill, enterprise, type of activity, etc. are displayed. And also there were small tidy devices that allow you to pay by phone and card. It's good? Good. It will be like in China. But who will put the control panel super-rich? Who will make a tax for them at least at the level of 35%? It is already clear that not Mishustin. He came to translate into reality the laws adopted in the 20s of December that severely discriminate against the population, but which the population has not yet tried, and protect the super-rich from the loss of super-profits.

[den3080]

the only person without the prefix "acting" (Acting) continues to remain the chairman of the Russian cabinet, approved at his post by Vladimir Putin. All federal ministers and deputy prime ministers remain “from the time” of Dmitry Medvedev, having received the prefixes mentioned last Thursday.

Gave time to get rid of residence permits :))
I think there’s a concrete movement, they check whether the hatchbacks are well hidden and fear each other ... the whole team :)) and they bow down periodically ... who are in front of the icons, and most of them - to the portrait of Vladimir Vladimirovich.
The exception is Lavrov and Shoigu. They have nothing to be ashamed of. Worked with dignity.

[Loess]

Based on what I read in this news, the news is the lack of news.

[Mestny]

Well, you really want to poke about bad power. Already 4 days without a new government! What a shit!
"daughters of the country"

[Altona]

Quote: Mestny

Well, you really want to poke about bad power.

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Do you want to continue pension reform and new taxes? Are you not a masochist by chance?

[kjhg]

Quote: Altona

Are you not a masochist by chance?

No, he is a typical egoist. While his personal affairs were going well, he wanted to spit on everyone with a high bell tower. Their advice is to open your own business (according to Medvedevsky). But not everyone can do business. This requires certain data, and it is not at all mind, knowledge, decency and honesty. If you do not have these data, then go plow for pennies for a second, for a third job for such employers as he.
What can be said about such people? Everyone decides for himself.

[Altona]

Quote: kjhg

Their advice is to open your own business (according to Medvedevsky). But not everyone can do business. This requires certain data, and it is not at all mind, knowledge, decency and honesty.

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You're right. I add that business is also a big risk, and the need to build a strategy, and attract a lot of people, in general, a lot of things. Today's work around the world is greatly simplified, and the employee can quickly learn the necessary skills in just a month.
Now let's talk about the United States, which is about to "fall apart". Contrary to official TV, things in the US are not as bad as they say. And it is not in vain that Donald Fredovich eats his bread as president. Official unemployment has already gone below 4% and tends to 2,3% (!!!), that is, the American economy is actively attracting workers, and it does not matter how you shout "work, travakhos, arbeiten, pratsu, etc." Compare this with our 4,5% plus 30 million "self-employed". The number of people receiving food stamps fell by 2 million, that is, people began to earn money themselves. Real incomes grew by 3%, not 0,1 as in our tale. At the same time, people stand in line in the rain for meetings with Trump (there will be elections at the end of the year), and at a meeting, for example, with the Democrat Joseph Biden we know, about 300 people, most likely his employees. Trump signed a strategic pact with China and China opened the market for American food and LNG products. And you say why he slammed Soleimani? Both Iran and China have thrown graceful tricks.
PS In general, patriots of "stability", continue to drown for a quick exit to the cemetery, for the usurpation of power, for the lack of jobs and income, for new taxes, for "airbags", for new billionaires and new nonsense from the TV box.

[AU Ivanov.]

Trump is a businessman, a business person. Knowledgeable economy in practice. We have theories of ethics.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Less

Based on what I read in this news, the news is the lack of news.

A repetition of what was said earlier, and all about nothing. And here we played a little brawl.

[prior]

If the chairman of the Russian government wants to be Steve Jobs, the question arises: "Is this really the Russian prime minister?"

[svan26]

I think Mishustin meant the perfectionism of Steve Jobs.

[Mestny]

But Steve Jobs is not a man?

[bk316]

If the chairman of the Russian government wants to be Steve Jobs

What would you say in his place?

[kepmor]

I had to answer - Putin’s simple friend ...
but seriously, our country was the only period when the prime minister decided almost everything ... from 2008 to 2012 ...
but the fact that the new cabinet is not announced, apparently, the list is not yet ready in the Kremlin ...

[cost]

If the chairman of the Russian government wants to be Steve Jobs, the question arises: "Is this really the Russian prime minister?"

The most important thing is not to become Ivan Susanin

[Mouse]

Wow! whole four days have passed! and no shifts ....

[4ekist]

Everything is going according to plan, gentlemen.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mouse

Wow! whole four days have passed! but no shifts ..

Well, you need to massage those close to the throne and "experts" a little,

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mouse

whole four days have passed!

Tomorrow there will be an article already about FIVE days.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Paranoid50

Tomorrow there will be an article about FIVE days

Oh well ... over there, they soaked the seagull ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Golovan Jack

soaked a seagull ... schA rush

Yes, they planted a yummy one. Moreover, the drum that the news - not news (everything was planned) - suck to the bones. And for dessert - an article stating that the DPRK economy is growing faster than the Russian one.

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

there they soaked the seagull

-----------------------
Roman, how can you soak a seagull? Is she a water bird?
PS This is a soak seagull meme however.

[rocket757]

Maybe we’ll start counting by the hours, minutes?

[Mouse]

Quote: rocket757

Maybe we’ll start counting by the hours, minutes?

every second is worth its weight in gold!

[rocket757]

Quote: Mouse

every second is worth its weight in gold!

For those who are in standby mode, maybe so. And for everyone else, pfe ... how long have we been waiting, six years? Let's wait!

[Mouse]

Quote: rocket757

Let's wait!

don't get used to it!

[rocket757]

Time flows smoothly, slowly and relatively ... and we will not have time to notice those that others will come and go.

[Mouse]

- But can we exchange the Bear for Mishustik?
- Yes, they are all from the same den! ..

[novel66]

moreover, from this

[Mouse]

it is clear that not from this ...

[rocket757]

In general, from one, the nipples of the nurse.

[novel66]

Well, yes, everyone does not get smoked in any way. Victor, hi!

[rocket757]

Hello Roman
These "games" at the top never end, because there is a reason.
Their prizes are great if you win.

[Roman070280]

There is no time for buildup ..

[depressant]

I watched a movie with rats. There are two rats, one bowl with cat food is one, but wide, the bowl full to the top. Nevertheless, each of the rats passionately strove to paw off the attempts of the other to attach themselves to food. Swinging in time? You lose!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Maybe we’ll start counting by the hours, minutes?

The wine must first stand.

[rocket757]

There are like lovers mash! even boughel can’t wait .... I even prefer to stand chacha before use. She gets a special taste in a year or two!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

I even prefer to stand chacha before use. She gets a special taste in a year or two!

Here you can immediately see the connoisseur of a pleasant drink. Taste and astringency should appear.

[rocket757]

Amateur experimenter. Suppose a chacha of mulberry (mulberry), a fresh fellow can appreciate, not everyone! And after a couple of years, the barrel went to Hurray! He himself was surprised and was glad that he did not write off the PRODUCT in costs. It is even more pleasant that we have plenty of source material for every color and taste!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

And after a couple of years, the barrel went to Hurray! He himself was surprised and was glad that he did not write off the PRODUCT in costs.

Willpower, I would have choked with saliva during this time, but I have suffered a year.

[Mountain shooter]

Haste is needed when catching fleas. And then there are two dozen ministers. Let it work. He did not prepare for such a deal. Here the cleaners to hire a day is not enough.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Here the cleaners to hire a day is not enough.

Replace cleaners, hire new ministers.

[shubin]

Mishustin then called one of his desires: "so that there are no poor in Russia."
I’m worried that something is for the poor.

[depressant]

Correctly worry, colleague!

[Nitochkin]

“So that there are no poor people in Russia,” Mishustin said, and came up with a property tax at the cadastral (market) value.

[your1970]

Quote: Nitochkin

“So that there are no poor people in Russia,” Mishustin said, and came up with a property tax at the cadastral (market) value.

-owners of real estate in Moscow are on the drum for us- and in our area the cadastral value of land decreased four times. Now for a plot of 4 hundred parts pay 300 rubles a year ....
if such a figure strangles you by the throat ...

[Nitochkin]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Nitochkin

“So that there are no poor people in Russia,” Mishustin said, and came up with a property tax at the cadastral (market) value.

-owners of real estate in Moscow are on the drum for us- and in our area the cadastral value of land decreased four times. Now for a plot of 4 hundred parts pay 300 rubles a year ....
if such a figure strangles you by the throat ...

And where is it in your area? Kolyma, bgg?
And yes, seriously, the proofs in the studio, what you have there and where it has decreased. And then you can grind with your tongue and fly to the Moon back and forth.

[your1970]

Saratov region. What proof do you have? To submit an entry to the SCN? With a history of cadastral value?
It was 1200 - it became about 300

Quote: Nitochkin

Kolyma, bgg?

- and in Kolyma NOT do you think people live ??? !!!
Immediately you can see - "Maskva" ... I would add a couple of zeros to the cadastral value ...

[Nitochkin]

Quote: your1970

Saratov region. What proof do you have? To submit an entry to the SCN? With a history of cadastral value?
It was 1200 - it became about 300

Quote: Nitochkin

Kolyma, bgg?

- and in Kolyma NOT do you think people live ??? !!!
Immediately you can see - "Maskva" ... I would add a couple of zeros to the cadastral value ...

Gasoline rises in price, utility bills are only growing, taxes are tearing almost for air, the Plato system, the Capital Repair Fund, pensions have been wrapped, etc. etc., and then bam, they reduced the tax 4 times.
"I do not believe!" ©
Or you spun around and were able to transfer land from one, more expensive category, to another, cheaper one.
ZY "Immediately visible -" Maskva. "Bgg, what place are you looking at? He sees Muskwa, bgg.

[your1970]

Quote: Nitochkin

Or you spun around and were able to transfer land from one, more expensive category, to another, cheaper one.

All region, at once ???? !!!!!!

[Nitochkin]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Nitochkin

Or you spun around and were able to transfer land from one, more expensive category, to another, cheaper one.

All region, at once ???? !!!!!!

Serezha, you will understand the question, for starters.
Your area was first shod with a full cadastral estimate:

"The previous cadastral assessment, which was carried out in the Saratov region by the Samara branch of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Rostekhinventarizatsii, led to a multiple increase in tax payments for many land users. At the same time, large shortfalls in revenues for municipalities appeared on the land tax - up to 1,7 billion rubles. As assured in the regional government, this situation will not happen again, they will not formally approach an important issue, especially since this time the cadastral assessment is carried out by a regional structure. "

link: https://rg.ru/2019/10/29/reg-pfo/saratovcy-v-massovom-poriadke-osparivaiut-kadastrovuiu-stoimost.html
And now they are rewinding. But not the whole area at once, but gradually:

“In our region this year it is not planned to assess the most massive category of land in settlements. But almost 355 thousand land plots from the category of farmland, industrial and other special purpose lands, forest, water resources, as well as lands of specially protected territories and objects are subject to assessment. If the results of the state assessment are approved, the new cost will be applied from January 1, 2020, ”explains Svetlana Vandysheva, an expert with the Cadastral Chamber in the Samara Region.

link: https://www.kinel-cherkassy.ru/index.php/29762-kadastrovaya-stoimost-nedvizhimosti-dlya-chego-ona-neobkhodima-i-kak-prokhodit-otsenka-v-samarskoj-oblasti
And even now, with a 4-fold decrease, the cadastral value of your land is higher than the inventory value. Those. for good you should not pay 300 rubles, but even lower. But for you, the "benefactors" officials have already cut the tax by 4 times. Take a walk, Seryozha, save 900 rubles, do not deny yourself anything.
The question is, if the bureaucrats themselves didn’t back down, would they have paid 1200 rubles a year?

[your1970]

Quote: Nitochkin

Seryozha, you figure it out, for starters

-That's right, sort it out for a start ....
1point - yes, it was high (relative to the Big penny cities !!!). From 01.01.2019 a new assessment appeared, and there all settlements of the region
2 point-ee ...

Quote: Nitochkin

by Samara area

... area a little not ours.

Quote: Nitochkin

Gasoline rises in price, utility bills are only growing, taxes are tearing almost for air, the Plato system, the Capital Repair Fund, pensions have been wrapped, etc. etc., and then bam, they reduced the tax 4 times.
"I do not believe!" ©

Quote: Nitochkin

But for you, the "benefactors" officials have already cut the tax by 4 times.

you have already believe? or not?

ZY

Quote: Nitochkin

higher than inventory.

- inventory was used to assess housing, but I talked about LAND

Quote: your1970

the cadastral value of land decreased four times.

but the main thing for you is to shout - "P-r-r-r-rocking bureaucrats !!!" - and why delve into ...

ZY

Quote: Nitochkin

Plato system

influenced upward costs for carriers from 0,1 to 0,3% - increase in shipping costs for customers amounted to from 0,5 to 45 (FORTY FIVE !!!!!!)%
And the fault is like "bureaucrats again !!!" - in the wild greed carriers .....

[Nitochkin]

Quote: your1970

And to blame like "bureaucrats again !!!"

Run to your bureaucrats, bow to the benefactors in their legs for a handout, and their master’s boots for one, BGG.

[your1970]

That is, the normal words ended, because they got stuck?
How is it with you? Ah, I found it - bgg ....

[Nitochkin]

Quote: your1970

That is, the normal words ended, because they got stuck?
How is it with you? Ah, I found it - bgg ....

Consider this a point in an argument. I do not intend to prove to the "slave" who received a half-dress from the "master" that he is a "slave", and his "master" is not a benefactor, but a parasite.

[Nonna]

Do you really think that those who really want and can do useful things for the country and the people will choose? The main thing here is not to offend and not leave one without an armchair.

[iouris]

The first to raise this problem (poverty) in Moscow was the "entrepreneur" Polonsky.
Wi-Fi Help:
Sergey Yuryevich Polonsky (born December 1, 1972, Leningrad, RSFSR, USSR) was a Russian entrepreneur, owner and manager in 2004-2011 of one of the largest development companies, Mirax Group. Before the global financial crisis, 2008 was one of the richest people in Russia. Currently, he is a shareholder and investor in a number of commercial structures incorporated in the Potok (Potok) holding, formerly known as Nazvanie.net LLC.
In October 2011, Polonsky was noted by Forbes magazine as one of the nine most unusual Russian businessmen, eccentrics and eccentrics. From 2012 to May 2015, Polonsky lived on his own island in Cambodia.
His idea was to expel anyone from Moscow who could not produce at least a million (dollars).

[Loess]

Quote: iouris

His idea was to expel from Moscow

And did he serve before he had this "brilliant" idea or after?

[Stirbjorn]

One reason is the absence of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. There was simply no one to legally secure the proposed (hypothetically) candidates. The president tried to deal with foreign affairs - the settlement of the situation in Libya.

Um ... on Saturday, Putin was in St. Petersburg, 77 years of breaking the blockade, where does Libya ?! You can somehow check the article for content

The fourth day the villages glow (s)

[Roman070280]

Mishustin then called one of his desires: "so that there are no poor in Russia."

They will eradicate ..

[vladimirvn]

The people demand a Miracle!

[Radical]

Quote: seti

Quote: bouncyhunter

I am not a politician, but I do not think that any cardinal decisions should be expected from Mishustin in the very first days of his premiership.

So no one is waiting immediately and much. We will see. Nothing here depends on us. But we already know Medvedev and this is a new man.

That is why they gave you a "new" person so that everyone would continue to "look", "wait", and this will continue all the time - removing a small card from the deck, and again - a new card, and ... we wait. In general, the circulation of ... cards in a deck for suckers ....

[Lexus]

In general, the cycle ... cards in the deck for suckers ...

"Pages are burning for the fourth day" and TV screens. And at this time, beyond the bounds of distracted attention, regular dark deeds are happening, which, as usual, we will learn about after the fact. In the sphere of cheating, "crooks and thieves" have nothing new.

[Nitochkin]

Platoshkin on Mishustin: "Who is he?"

[depressant]

A colleague, thanks, listened to the video with Platoshkin. About the cadastral tax on apartments and houses - it is the same thing that I spoke about right after the New Year. The people, still slightly under the chauffeur, did not get it. It will be cut when it receives real estate tax receipts. Maybe even then the broad masses of the illiberal population are swaying for some protest actions. Filing from Putin-they are on the cover and a dangerous tax as well. Tax on market value and on reference from the BTI are different, like heaven from earth. I suppose a conversation about this has yet to be.

[Rusticolus]

It seems to me that the well-known phrase will now sound like this: There is no money - then we will go to you!

[Ros 56]

Only cats breed quickly.

[Chaldon48]

Well, yes, the lord will come, the lord will judge us and everyone will become rich, except for the poor.

[23424636]

many do not even know, but Mishustin’s arrival in tax coincided with the arrival of Yanukovych and Azarov to power in Ukraine. Zakharchenko was then appointed the tax chief. Before that, he led the house. Naturally, the boys came to Moscow to their colleagues and they were given the experience of Mishutyan how to control the business. Immediately 2 times raised the rates for cashing from 5 (18 years did not change) to 10% and these are not budgetary but technical production topics. When they introduced a categorical electronic signature and began to receive VAT reports only when the chain closed it was slightly not easy. But it swallowed. But he still needed cash out to resolve issues, and then, as it were, some structures appeared under the roof. 2-3 years have passed. When the statute of limitations expires. And then the fiscals requested a check of all VAT transactions and retroactively recovered all their returns. After that, the small business simply left the bank transfer in black cash. And they began to make settlements through cards of Privatbank, which before that, due to the stupidity of Donetsk (Klyuev and Co.), had stolen Prominvestbank, a competitor on this topic. transfers lived and flourished. And then Valtsman (Poloshenko) nationalized him so that fiscal transactions were available. There was a tit theme with cash registers. But it somehow did not work. In other words, the current Russian prime minister was indirectly a participant in the change in the economic situation in Ukraine, which led to massive discontent among the middle class and the business that poured into the Maidan.