Meeting in Berlin on Libya was regarded as unsuccessful

Meeting in Berlin on Libya was regarded as unsuccessful

From Berlin, reports are coming that serious problems have arisen in the Libyan settlement negotiations. Recall that we are talking about a conference at which the parties tried to agree on the beginning of the political process in the country, which essentially ceased to exist as a single state after the NATO bombing.


Information was confirmed that the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Turkish President Recep Erdogan left the Berlin event before the end of the summit.

It turned out that Angela Merkel (as the hostess of the summit) and UN Secretary General Antoniu Gutteris remained at the final briefing of all participants.

Merkel said that the meeting agreed that a temporary ceasefire in Libya should develop into a “permanent and comprehensive peace” in this country.

Experts noted that the conference in the German capital could not achieve its immediate goals, recognizing the summit as unsuccessful.

Markets instantly reacted to the results of the Libya conference. So, oil prices went up after the forces of Marshal Khalifa Haftar blocked the pipeline in western Libya. The Western press notes that these actions of the troops of Marshal Haftar may lead to a shortage of oil in the regional market.

In addition, it is noted that the shutdown of the pipeline in Libya in the end and could initially serve as the main reason for the failure of the meeting in Berlin.
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  1. bessmertniy 20 January 2020 06: 28 New
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    Marshal showed who is the boss in Libya, and that the future of this country is decided within it, and not abroad.
    1. Mavrikiy 20 January 2020 06: 37 New
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      Merkel said that the meeting agreed that a temporary ceasefire in Libya should develop into a “permanent and comprehensive peace” in this country.
      Not .... yourself. They did not twist the net, did not throw it three times, did not catch the fish, but I want to go there! (cartoon) Putin and Erdogan, even tried, and these? request
    2. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 07: 14 New
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      Marshal showed who is the boss in Libya, and that the future of this country is decided within it, and not abroad.

      If you judge reality because you were chewed and put in your mouth on VO, then you live in your secluded and comfortable (from your point of view) world.
      Do not be afraid to look into other sources of information.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 January 2020 07: 21 New
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        Do not tell a couple of such sources?
        Thank you.
        1. Yura 20 January 2020 11: 35 New
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          You are welcome. Let me tell you, this is maidan.izrailovich (Maidan Izrailovich) laughing
          1. Aerodrome 20 January 2020 11: 49 New
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            In the photo, the UN Secretary General is looking to see if the "brick" fell behind ...
            1. Yura 20 January 2020 12: 01 New
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              I also drew attention to this fact, though I thought about what he was looking for and wants to understand from whom this sand is pouring. But the brick is also a thought, and I know who it is, Haftar made it to them, blocked the pipe, prices jumped, and this smells like “Maidan”, “Izrailevich”? He has the same thoughts and deeds big and wide, where to us with our "little world". laughing
  2. Uncle lee 20 January 2020 06: 30 New
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    Meeting in Berlin on Libya was regarded as unsuccessful
    Scavengers did not agree ...
  3. Tzar 20 January 2020 06: 33 New
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    Going longer ...
  4. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 06: 34 New
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    An unpleasant scene turned out, like on a collective farm bazaar.
    1. rocket757 20 January 2020 07: 08 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      An unpleasant scene turned out, like on a collective farm bazaar.

      Or maybe they were not enough there? Strong “team” failed to collect?
      1. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 08: 16 New
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        Quote: rocket757
        Or maybe they were not enough there? Strong “team” failed to collect?

        They again forgot Poland, the tribalt and the independent, but proud.
        1. rocket757 20 January 2020 08: 18 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          They again forgot Poland, the tribalt and the independent, but proud.

          Those would be happy, but the big uncle ordered FU to sit!
        2. 210ox 20 January 2020 09: 52 New
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          Ugh on them .. About "Georgia" forgot ..
    2. knn54 20 January 2020 08: 12 New
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      There is an interesting point - the events in Libya led to the confrontation of NATO members (albeit only in this matter). France and Greece for Haftara, Turkey and Italy for the PNS.
      1. rocket757 20 January 2020 08: 19 New
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        Quote: knn54
        France and Greece for Haftar, Turkey and Italy for the PNS.

        And there is something to rob! What are the allies in such a thing. Personal, specific interest!
  5. Ural resident 20 January 2020 06: 38 New
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    There is an "uncomfortable" question. If the Western "partners" suddenly want to deal with Haftar by the hands of the Turks, and they do not need UN permission for a no-fly zone. Will Russia be able to and will help him and how? For some reason, our PMCs are now fighting there, which means there are interests (even economic ones). After all, to lose means to lose a reputation.
    1. Same lech 20 January 2020 06: 40 New
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      After all, to lose means to lose a reputation.

      Not always ... sometimes it’s possible to profit from losing ... for example, pushing the winning sides between your foreheads ... and joining the game when the brawlers have no strength left ... though this process is very time-consuming.
      1. Ural resident 20 January 2020 06: 45 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        After all, to lose means to lose a reputation.

        Not always ... sometimes it’s possible to profit from losing ... for example, pushing the winning sides between your foreheads ... and joining the game when the brawlers have no strength left ... though this process is very time-consuming.

        I agree. if in this dump you can manage to play so gracefully, while taking the region under the influence, then it will be super. However, while it is difficult for our PMC fighters there, if Turkey officially enters its forces and bombs them, even though they are not there, it will simply not be noticeable. And it is not known whether Putin will aggravate relations in the light of the latest strategic agreements (Turkish Stream, joint actions in Syria and S-400).
        1. Doliva63 20 January 2020 17: 58 New
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          Quote: A resident of the Urals
          Quote: The same Lech
          After all, to lose means to lose a reputation.

          Not always ... sometimes it’s possible to profit from losing ... for example, pushing the winning sides between your foreheads ... and joining the game when the brawlers have no strength left ... though this process is very time-consuming.

          I agree. if in this dump you can manage to play so gracefully, while taking the region under the influence, then it will be super. However, while it is difficult for our PMC fighters there, if Turkey officially enters its forces and bombs them, even though they are not there, it will simply not be noticeable. And it is not known whether Putin will aggravate relations in the light of the latest strategic agreements (Turkish Stream, joint actions in Syria and S-400).

          Why aggravate? Divide Libya in half with the Turks, and all business something! laughing
      2. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 08: 20 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        for example, to push the winning sides between their foreheads ... and enter the game when the brawlers have no strength left.

        Well, just like the United States in World War I, and in World War II
    2. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 07: 20 New
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      For some reason, our PMCs are now fighting there, so there are interests (even economic ones).

      Vladimir Vladimirovich has already answered this question. You either do not trust the president, or did not hear his answer.
  6. rocket757 20 January 2020 07: 07 New
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    Meeting in Berlin on Libya was regarded as unsuccessful

    Probably there are few people ... there were world and statesmen ??? More is needed!
    And we can remind them all of them - Seven ... nannies, a child without ... can stay without much.
  7. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 07: 10 New
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    I noticed that when the article says half-truth (to put it mildly), the author is usually not.
    Well, here is an example:
    .... Mike Pompeo and Turkish President Recep Erdogan left the Berlin event before the end of the summit.
    ... Angela Merkel (as the hostess of the summit) and UN Secretary General Antoniu Gutteris remained at the final briefing of all participants.

    The final briefing is the final part of the summit. And if only the two indicated came to it, then everyone else left the event ahead of schedule , and not just Erdogan and Pompeo.

    Experts noted that the conference in the German capital could not achieve its immediate goals, recognizing the summit as unsuccessful.

    What kind of "experts"? Again anonymity.
    Why are the goals not achieved?
    The goal was to stop shooting and as a result of killing people. If the parties agreed on a ceasefire (albeit a temporary one) is this not the achievement of the above goal?
    Leafed through the Internet. Most resources either positively or neutrally evaluate the outcome of the meeting.
    1. Yura 20 January 2020 11: 51 New
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      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      What kind of "experts"? Again anonymity.

      Who said that this is an expert’s article or an analyst’s article, the heading “News”, a resource brought it to you, your opinion or conclusions. What about the headline? So it’s messages from Berlin
      From Berlin, reports are coming that serious problems have arisen in the negotiations on the Libyan settlement.
      And there in Europe it’s in the order of things, and it’s also about what you are doing,
      What kind of "experts"? Again anonymity. Why are the goals not achieved?
      There is a lot of screaming, but out of place.
  8. Nastia makarova 20 January 2020 07: 33 New
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    On Putin's photo equal))))
    1. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 08: 26 New
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      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      On Putin's photo equal)

      A little late, but that's right, they say stand and wait. And to Tatyana Yumasheva (Yeltsyna-Dyachenko) had a birthday.
  9. Thrifty 20 January 2020 07: 35 New
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    The problem is different, namely, in the presence of Turkish armed bandit formations in Libya, who openly support both igil in Syria and in Libya fighting against the army of Marshal Haftar.
  10. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 07: 38 New
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    The truce achieved in Berlin plays into the hands of Turkey and the United States standing behind it. The fact that the United States in Libya is on the same side with Turkey, I hope it is no secret to anyone.
    This respite will allow Turkey to increase the number of its troops in Libya. After all, a ban on foreign contingents has not appeared.
    Haftar clearly remains alone. Neither Egypt, nor even the Saudis, will oppose Turkey when Washington is aware of all Erdogan’s plans.
    After all, there were sober voices here in VO. That Russia is not worth undertaking Libya without finishing in Syria.
  11. Mountain shooter 20 January 2020 07: 46 New
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    Haftar decided that he had nothing to fear, he was winning, and was about to occupy the capital. And then there will be no one to negotiate with. And what does Merkel like him? And in general, the whole gang gathered in Berlin ... He is a military man. His troops are winning. The summit does not give him the opportunity to send troops into the capital without a fight ... So, he will enter with the battles.
    1. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 07: 58 New
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      He is a military man. His troops are winning .....

      You make me laugh.
      Read his biography. "Military". lol Yes, he lost everything that is possible.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Хафтар,_Халифа
      1. Mountain shooter 20 January 2020 08: 02 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        Read his biography. "Military". Yes, he lost everything that is possible.

        And I did not say that he is a winner! I wrote that he is a military man ... And he has a corresponding mentality ...
        1. cniza 20 January 2020 08: 54 New
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          He himself appointed a marshal and he will appoint a winner ... Libya was an artificial state and was held by the iron hand of Gaddafi, and now there walk the field ...
        2. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 08: 58 New
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          Mountain shooter (Eugene)
          And I did not say that he is a winner!

          And who said that ...
          His troops are winning.

          ... Pushkin? crying
          1. Mountain shooter 20 January 2020 09: 56 New
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            Quote: maidan.izrailovich

            And who said that ...
            His troops are winning.

            ... Pushkin?

            But isn’t his troops standing at Tripoli? And he didn’t shut off the oil pipeline ...
            1. maidan.izrailovich 20 January 2020 13: 30 New
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              But isn’t his troops standing at Tripoli?

              They’ve been standing there for half a year. crying Is it worth your victory victory? lol
              And he didn’t shut off the oil pipeline ...

              And is this a "victory"? Over whom.
    2. alexmach 20 January 2020 09: 53 New
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      Haftar decided that he has nothing to fear, he wins

      And so already 2 years
  12. Vadim02rus 20 January 2020 08: 05 New
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    Why is it unsuccessful? Judging by this, everything is fine for Grandma: "
    The main objective of the conference on Libya, which is being held in Berlin today, German Chancellor Angela Merkel considers not allowing Syrian scenario in Libyan territory, where Russia became the decisive force in the settlement. This writes Die Welt.

    If the negotiators really agree not to support one of the conflicting parties in Libya, this will be the huge success of Angela Merkel and the most significant foreign policy achievement of the FRG since the deal on refugees with Turkey was concluded in 2016, the newspaper writes. "
  13. cniza 20 January 2020 08: 49 New
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    Markets instantly reacted to the results of the Libya conference. So, oil prices went up after the forces of Marshal Khalifa Haftar blocked the pipeline in western Libya. The Western press notes that these actions of the troops of Marshal Haftar may lead to a shortage of oil in the regional market.


    Here is the real result ...
  14. cloud catcher 20 January 2020 09: 37 New
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    We talked in Moscow with the leaders of the direct participants in the conflict - that’s good. In Berlin, they signed a "basket", which states that all participants must refuse to intervene in the armed conflict (which means Turkey)! And ... a ceasefire is a plus.
  15. alexmach 20 January 2020 09: 49 New
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    Hmm .. and on gazeta.ru in the night it was quite a resolution convenient for the marshal ... It seems they agreed on the non-interference of third countries, the imbargo in arms, and not to attack the oil infrastructure. Well, a truce by itself.
  16. Ros 56 20 January 2020 10: 24 New
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    In short, it turned out another “quartet”, in fact it was difficult to expect another.
  17. 1536 20 January 2020 12: 16 New
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    Quote: bessmertniy
    Marshal showed who is the boss in Libya, and that the future of this country is decided within it, and not abroad.

    Destroyed Libya just from the outside. And whose ears are visible behind this marshal is not necessary to guess. True, there is no need to hold summits at the highest level.
  18. Gennady Fomkin 20 January 2020 15: 00 New
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    Europe tried to "teach" and inculcate its own order in a country which, by their own stupidity, was bombed in the Middle Ages laughing Swan, Cancer and pike. The German caftan was pulled, but the habits remained the same.
  19. Alex Justice 20 January 2020 18: 09 New
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    The civil war in a small country with oil excited the whole West. The civil war in Ukraine is of no interest to anyone.
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