The foundation for the development of agriculture. About the need to revive the village


About agriculture of Russia



I once read a comment on one of my articles. The author indignantly wrote something like this: “Is this a publication about the Ministry of Emergencies or the Ministry of Internal Affairs?” Further in the same vein. The meaning of the quote was that well-trained soldiers are important for the country's defense. The rear with its problems is important for the civilian "hats". It is important for the military that the machine gun or machine gun be good, the tank cannot be pierced, the plane itself is the most, the ship ...

To any officer who commanded units or units, after such a comment, it becomes clear that the reader never commanded his beloved personnel, and if he served in the army, then at the level of “pencils, look, pens at attention.” Any company officer selects his foreman sometimes for years.

The ability to get, find, knock out, get in the first place, etc. not everyone has it. A higher commander is unlikely to listen to excuses, such as "they didn’t give them out at the warehouse" or "I was ordered to wait for new ones to arrive." Yes, and the "nest egg" in the sense of an extra can of stew or porridge for a soldier has never stopped fighting.

Today we will talk about one of the most important areas of defense production - agriculture. About how, in a historically short period, we almost resolved the issue of food security of the country. So, the issue of providing the army and fleet food.

Usually, peasants are paid attention only when it suddenly turns out that some product has become lacking.

Remember, a few years ago, the buckwheat problem was widely discussed? Even those who have nothing to do with this culture, like the author of this material, were aware of the problem. Does anyone remember this today?

This is due to the fact that only about 10% of the country's population is employed in agriculture. And the share of agricultural in GDP is only 4,7% ($ 100 billion). This is not oil or gas. For most of us, all problems with products are successfully resolved at the nearest supermarket or in the market.

Is the village reborn?


I travel out of town quite often. I love the sinful affair of Karasiks to pull a fishing rod or wrestle with pikes on quiet taiga rivers and lakes. Yes, and with a gun on the dawn to sit in the lake reeds. Naturally, I see how some villages and towns are being revived in dynamics. I can compare what was last year and what has been restored or re-built.

I can’t say for all of Russia, but for this dozen or two villages I can for sure. The village is reborn. Houses are built no worse than elite suburban villages. Cowsheds and pigsties everywhere. Cattle from the villages are grazed. Something is growing in the fields. And you can’t meet a drunken man on the street, as it was a couple of dozen years ago. People work.

But here is what I noticed. Those villages that belong to large agricultural holdings are reborn quickly. It is actually seen that the peasants have money there. These are new cowsheds, these are the tractors of the latest models, these are good cars in the yards. The houses are painted, the roofs shine or delight the eye with variegation. Even the roads are in good condition. Not to mention gas and other little things.

But where farmers work, things are going much slower. I'm not talking about the owner of the farm. There is a house, and cars, and everything else on the level. I'm talking about peasants who work in this economy. It can be seen that a small farm cannot provide the same level of salaries as an agricultural holding.

Of course, today this situation is understandable. In the structure of agriculture, the leading place is occupied by large enterprises. 53% of the total production comes from agricultural holdings. Farmers are only 13%. Even personal households of citizens give more. But…

We talk a lot about the revival of small villages - often the foundation of agricultural development. It's a shame when the village, which existed for centuries, suddenly became depopulated and abandoned by the inhabitants. A sad sight. And most importantly, it is unprofitable to revive villages economically. Build roads, conduct gas, organize bus routes and solve a bunch of everyday issues for the sake of several dozen people? ..

From cereals to honey


For several years now, starting in 2016, we have been collecting record grain crops. We practically provided ourselves with pork and poultry. We have drastically reduced agricultural imports and increased exports. What can I say, for the first time in 50 years we harvested more wheat than the Americans two years ago (2017).

Remember the myth that they “drove into our heads” for a long time? The myth that agricultural production in Russia is risky. Who remembers this today? But there was a risk. They knew how to grow, collect, but did not know how to store. Finally learned this.

So, maybe it's time to increase the support of small, private farms? Can not farmers cultivate the same area as large enterprises? But there is livestock farming, fish farming. There are also exclusive products that will be able to create farms that compete with large-scale production.

We have elementary currants and raspberries in every garden or orchard. And by the way, it is Russia that occupies the first place in the production of these berries. And there is honey, mushrooms, herbs. And the Baikal omul? Caviar, venison, Yakut horse meat, Dagestan tour, Tuvan yak.

There are fish and seafood that they will tear off with their hands in the West: St. Petersburg smelt, Black Sea anchovy, Arkhangelsk toothfish. And the Baltic hedgehogs? Murmansk scallop? Magadan trumpeter? Black Sea oyster?

Even ordinary spruce cones, if you like. Those who have tasted jam with Siberian cones will never forget this delicious taste of the Russian forest. Siberians even make ice cream with young fir cones.

Who works, he eats


Maybe this is the real way to revive the village? What is listed above is just a small part of our wealth. It is wealth. Large enterprises will not deal with such a “trifle”. They will provide food to the country. But small businesses can not only provide us with delicacies, but also live comfortably.

Probably each of us wants Russia to become a rich and happy country again. And the happiness of the country begins with a small personal happiness of each person. Anyone who works is simply obligated to be happy. Otherwise, why do the rest?
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  1. Operator 21 January 2020 12: 06 New
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    The author has a very strange idea about the technologies and productivity of agricultural production on farms - he must give the revived village with +100500 parasites in addition laughing
    1. Aerodrome 21 January 2020 12: 10 New
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      The foundation for the development of agriculture. About the need to revive the village
      can I insert the first: sho again?
    2. lucul 21 January 2020 12: 48 New
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      he must give the "revived" village with +100500 parasites

      I see no reason in reviving the village. The minimum territorial unit in Russia should remain a regional city center with a population of 10-15 thousand. population. With all the attributes of a city - a hospital, a bank, a post office, a railway station, a technical school / vocational school and others. You can’t build it all in a village - otherwise it will be a city, not a village. . With the modern development of transport, from a district city, getting to any farm in your area is a matter of 20 minutes. You don’t need to spray funds on the small infrastructure of the villages, this is not rational.
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        AUL 21 January 2020 13: 29 New
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        Quote: lucul
        With the modern development of transport, from a regional city, getting to any farm in your area is a matter of 20 minutes

        Well, ridiculed! Have you ever tried in the fall somewhere in the Black Earth to drive at least from one village to the next? When is harvesting the most, and does it rain? And the tractor sits on the belly ... Both the student and the engineer went constantly "to the collective farm" in the fall to harvest and in the spring to "beetroot", had seen enough. 20 minutes is only a helicopter!
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 07 New
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          When were you a respected AUL in the Black Earth region?
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            AUL 21 January 2020 14: 11 New
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            Born, raised and worked up to 32 years in Kursk. I live in Zamkadye for a period of years, but I periodically visit my small homeland. Alas, little changes in terms of roads.
            1. lucul 21 January 2020 14: 21 New
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              Alas, little changes in terms of roads

              And in our country - asphalt to almost every farm, this is already a matter of course.
            2. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 29 New
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              In Voronezh and Lipetsk roads are normal
            3. arhPavel 22 January 2020 16: 05 New
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              I live in Zamkadye for a period of years, but I periodically visit my small homeland. Alas, little changes in terms of roads.

              I went by car to rest, the Rostov, Voronezh Kursk Tambov, Vologda, Yaroslavl, Vladimir region, Krasnodar Territory navigator several times led to the detour fields. Everything with asphalt is all normal. Panic Redundant.
          2. Roman070280 22 January 2020 11: 55 New
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            The cottage is 14 km from the outskirts of the house .. driving in the summer up to 40 minutes happens .. if you move from the city center - it will definitely take more than an hour ..
            About some villages it is better not to remember at all .. This is a watch !!

            although I am a supporter of villages. as such ..
        2. lucul 21 January 2020 14: 15 New
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          Well, ridiculed! Have you ever tried in the fall somewhere in the Black Earth to drive at least from one village to the next? When is harvesting the most, and does it rain? And the tractor sits on the belly ...

          The price is asphalt to each farm - it is much cheaper than unnecessary infrastructure in the village.
      2. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 13: 32 New
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        Quote: lucul
        I see no reason in reviving the village. The minimum territorial unit in Russia should remain a regional city center with a population of 10-15 thousand. of the population

        Hello Nikita Sergeevich, will we cut down the gardens again?
        1. bayard 22 January 2020 05: 08 New
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          stop Gardens need to be bred! fellow
          And berry plantations.
          And ponds pond. With fish.
          And all living creatures.
          And so that it starts up and gets bred, you need a program, financing \ lending \ orders from trade, and yes - roads!
          Farmers and other peasants should do the necessary, profitable and profitable business for them personally.
          Well, for us - the rest, for the delicacies much more.
          The people in the village should be RICH!
          And in cities - it’s good, varied and (I’m not afraid of this word) to eat exquisitely.
          And the State should WANT, HELP and STIMULATE.
          Then the well-fed, healthy, cheerful and rich Russia will feed half the World!
          wink yes drinks
          1. Victor N 22 January 2020 14: 45 New
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            Whatever the topic, "the state MUST help." But as?! And where to get the funds, with the mass non-payment by us citizens?
            You have to understand that there are a lot of problems - both for each of us and the state. The importance of their decision is determined subjectively. But it is not necessary to blame everything only on the state, because we ourselves are involved in many things. I want to PERSONALLY and help, and participate. This can be done to everyone, if desired: to work legally for the benefit of their own family, pay all taxes carefully, send their proposals to the authorities - to fulfill their civic duties. You can also participate in help with your own funds - to know where to list. Everything is quite simple.
            1. bayard 22 January 2020 23: 58 New
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              Quote: Victor N
              Whatever the topic, "the state MUST help

              A state, by definition, must!
              Citizens of the state pay taxes, serve in the Armed forces, maintain the state at their own expense. And the State, in turn, MUST.
              This is the law of life and the essence of the state. And if such a law is violated, the balance is violated. An imbalance, as an example of a payment, leads to bankruptcy - that is, social tension, an explosion, and even revolution (we already know that, but God forbid again).
              The state is full of treasury and is breaking down, a wild budget surplus (and this is not particularly worth proud of - it’s a BALANCE OF BALANCE) and not only that - those funds that are laid down in the budget and are scheduled by article do not spend. People DO NOT SPEND. Do not spend on social projects! Do not spend on investments in import substitution projects! TRILLION of extra money in the budget last year was not spent! This is in the budget where “there is no money, but you hold on” and “there is no money in retirement”. Where did this money go?
              A riot.
              Meaningless and merciless.
              The government was cooking.
              Medvedev.
              And at once flew away.

              Quote: Victor N
              You can also participate

              It is necessary to participate in the National Voting on changing the constitution. So that LEGALLY none of the external forces could impose their will on the Russian State.
              Evil will.
              Anti-human.
              For the sovereignty of his country.

              And the people who feed their country and state in the most direct and immediate sense should live WELL.
              And THIS is the concern of the State.
              In the organization, lending, assistance, creating conditions.
              In order for the plants in the garden / garden to grow and give fruit, you need to CARE them!
              So it is with Agriculture.
              And for this EVERYTHING is.
              And the new government, too.
              1. Victor N 23 January 2020 10: 59 New
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                The balance should be with the fulfillment of obligations by both the state and citizens, but how to achieve it? Shout: give me money! Dali. But we did not master them. Is the state to blame? Or me?
                Therefore: everything needs to be solved calmly, with dignity: not to ask, and if they give something, only to thank, and not scold for the small size.
                1. bayard 23 January 2020 14: 02 New
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                  Quote: Victor N
                  Shout: give me money! Dali. But we did not master them.

                  Are you speaking on behalf of the government?
                  If you have been given money for nationwide \ national projects, but you have not spent them, then what are these actions called?
                  Sabotage!
                  Quote: bayard
                  those funds that are laid down in the budget and scheduled by articles do not spend. People DO NOT SPEND. Do not spend on social projects! Do not spend on investments in import substitution projects! TRILLION of extra money in the budget last year was not spent! This is in the budget where “there is no money, but you hold on” and “there is no money in retirement”. Where did this money go?
              2. the most important 26 January 2020 22: 51 New
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                It is necessary to participate in the National Voting on changing the constitution.

                You, sir, write nonsense and with such enthusiasm! What is a popular vote ??? Do you even openly open the Constitution and see how it (the Constitution) can change ... Have you ever heard anything about the referendum and the Constitutional Assembly? I’m sure that nothing ...
                Quote: bayard
                And for this EVERYTHING is.
                And the new government, too.

                New??? Well, yes, 20 percent new ... and all professionals! The Minister of Culture is such a general phenomenon! Any foreman in the army is ready, if anything, to replace her. And it will only get better!
                1. bayard 26 January 2020 23: 41 New
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                  You, sir, write nonsense and with such enthusiasm! What is a popular vote ???

                  The very thing announced by the president. It is impossible to hold a referendum in Russia - there is no law on it. Not accepted so far. Therefore, they called it a "popular vote", which seems to have no legal force, but will make it possible to assess how much these amendments are approved by citizens.
                  Are you against
                  Strange ... request
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                  Have you heard anything about the referendum and the Constitutional Assembly? I’m sure that nothing ...

                  Sure ?
                  Are you sure?
                  ... funny ...
                  Quote: the most important
                  And for this EVERYTHING is.
                  And the new government, too.

                  New??? Well, yes, 20 percent new ..

                  Are you sure 20%?
                  Didn’t miscalculate?
                  Then I’m not sure about your education ... It seems like simple arithmetic ... and such fantasies ...
                  The economic unit has been completely replaced.
                  And I'm not sure that the composition of this government is final, in May new corrections are possible. Perhaps this composition in general ... the "interim government" is the sanitary team for cleaning the Augean stables. After May it will be seen.
                  Quote: the most important
                  and all professionals!

                  Do you offer anyone?
                  Applicants to an agricultural university?
                  Or doubt their professionalism? Well, yes we will see it soon.
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                  The Minister of Culture is such a general phenomenon!

                  And here ... lol that is - that is, the cultural shock itself was. belay perhaps Mishustin has such a sense of humor ... or Putin ... laughing ... But most likely it is temporary - a passing figure, until they find someone suitable - after changes to the Constitution, when it will be possible to put something heavy on the ban on ideology ... with a thread ... For, as Vladimir Ilyich said : "The most important of the arts for us is cinema!" And this person, even under Medinsky, was responsible for the cinema.
                  She is now and the press, and bloggers, and just on the forums tear to shreds wink - anyway.
                  Do not linger.
                  But the people will have fun. yes
      3. Varyag71 22 January 2020 12: 33 New
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        You do not see, but others see.
    3. Private89 21 January 2020 13: 17 New
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      Reading comments I find people who say look in the USSR imported wheat, and Russia exports, they say achievement.
      Comrades during the union, part of the crop went to cattle feed, and in 1990 it amounted to almost 57 million heads, according to the latest data for 2016, the number of cattle was 18,7 million heads. The conclusion suggests itself less cattle need to be fed, less feed is needed. You can export more. The result is, as always with the bourgeois state, the main profit, and not the public good, and the main thing is to loudly announce a breakthrough, and the fact that this is a breakthrough into the abyss is modestly silent.
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 January 2020 13: 23 New
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        57 million cattle may have happened, but there was no meat in stores during the day with fire. Neither beef nor pork. Metamarfoza pancake.
        1. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 13: 33 New
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          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          but there was no meat in stores during the day with fire. Neither beef nor pork. Metamarfoza pancake.

          let's not frankly cheat, and there was meat and sausages
          1. eagle owl 21 January 2020 13: 58 New
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            Tell you what in the Russian Federation was called the "blue bird"? Chicken shop. A "long, green, sausage stinks"? Train from Moscow. Yeah, yes. A little shitty. Or will you tell me that there was no sign of awesome prosperity - “it eats from the market”? Because in the store - horseradish in vegetable oil, some wretched "orders" for the holidays.
            Well, did you really believe that everyone had common sclerosis, or nobody lived in the USSR?
            1. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 14: 01 New
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              Quote: Uhu
              Tell you what in the Russian Federation was called the "blue bird"? Chicken shop.

              so what would you be aware of, this is her normal condition, but what you are buying now is anabolics-fed pitching machines, the lethal age on farms today is 28 days, the same chickens bought by chickens and carrots and worms fed on wheat beat before 6 months it is impossible and at the same time they are sometimes blue if the blood is poorly glass
              Quote: Uhu
              A little shitty.

              this is a lot now and what you said is a sausage product, and meat sausage was just in the USSR
              Quote: Uhu
              Well, did you really believe that everyone had common sclerosis, or nobody lived in the USSR?

              and yes he lived and there were TWO refrigerators at home and both full
              1. eagle owl 21 January 2020 14: 31 New
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                As for the natural product - what was, was. And I remember ice cream, and kvass ... And damn, even kefir. But here is that there was a continuous "diphysit" around, and especially it was just about meat and products from it - you don’t fill me with that. In principle, you will not find uncooked smoked sausage in the store, only in Birch - I'm lying now? Oh, yes, I forgot, the Hunter store. Only this is the same market, but in the store
                1. Mcar 21 January 2020 15: 22 New
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                  Quote: Uhu
                  But here is that there was a continuous "diphysit" around, and especially it was just about meat and products from it - you don’t fill me with that.

                  It was possible to make a counter abundance in the Union in one day - the prices were lifted up to unbearable and all short-lived. But socialism is not about money, but about people.

                  There was no such deficit in the consumption of the simplest foodstuffs by the poorest segments of the population, of which tens of millions are counted, either in the 70s or until the mid-80s. The humor is that something really needed to be literally got in the Union. Now you need to "get" one thing - money. And so I don’t even know which is better - a shortage of products or a shortage of money.
                  1. eagle owl 21 January 2020 15: 56 New
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                    Now there is a lack of quality. Even with the money, well, if it’s completely fucked up, you will get the norms. And so - it is really possible to come across a leftist, for example, in a Pontovy wine shop. Well, my friend in the GUM department store sold a drowned telephone. The contacts are oxidized, i.e. he was wet laughing
                2. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 18: 17 New
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                  Quote: Uhu
                  In principle, you will not find uncooked smoked sausage in the store, only in Birch - I'm lying now?

                  fair?!
                  Moscow just lay bo how expensive was
                3. Sewer krainiy 21 January 2020 23: 20 New
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                  As for the natural product - what was, was. And I remember ice cream, and kvass ... And damn, even kefir. But here is that there was a continuous "diphysit" around, and especially it was just about meat and products from it - you don’t fill me with that. In principle, you will not find uncooked smoked sausage in the store, only in Birch - I'm lying now? Oh, yes, I forgot, the Hunter store. Only this is the same market, but to the store
                  I report that in 1967, when I was called up for the fleet, my parents did the dumping cognac “Pliska”, I don’t remember, but a little for 3 rubles. In the backpack lay the rings of the dried “Krakow”, also the price is somewhere around three rubles. This is a simple country guy, not from the elite, as they say now. Then, however, it got worse and worse, especially with the "hunchback". But then they showed in programs like "Searchlight for Reconstruction", "Glance" that the warehouses were full, and cars with meat were not allowed into cities, especially Moscow, they all dumped in the forest. They created an artificial deficit. But the authorities for some reason did not respond. What they wanted, they got it. And the people ...
                  1. eagle owl 22 January 2020 00: 49 New
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                    As for the natural product - what was, was. And I remember ice cream, and kvass ... And damn, even kefir. But here is that there was a continuous "diphysit" around, and especially it was just about meat and products from it - you don’t fill me with that. In principle, you will not find uncooked smoked sausage in the store, only in Birch - I'm lying now? Oh, yes, I forgot, the Hunter store. Only this is the same market, but to the store

                    Are You Normal?
                  2. Oleg2003 25 January 2020 21: 36 New
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                    Krakow was never dry-cured
                    1. Sewer krainiy 26 January 2020 16: 46 New
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                      So the wife told me so, she at that time worked in a store in Ukraine. So the name is confused. I’m sure that they gave me a dry-cured dish on a long journey, so as not to spoil, but I was not mistaken in price - 3 plus minus hi
                4. eagle owl 22 January 2020 10: 25 New
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                  Quote: Uhu
                  so what would you know

                  There was such a cartoon ... Something out of yogurt ... "And we will buy meat in the market! - And in the store! - Why in the store? - And there are more bones!"
                  Again I lied. seem yeah
              2. Krasnodar 21 January 2020 18: 58 New
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                Quote: Barmaleyka

                so what would you be aware of, this is her normal condition, but what you are buying now is anabolics-fed pitching machines, the lethal age on farms today is 28 days, the same chickens bought by chickens and carrots and worms fed on wheat beat before 6 months it is impossible and at the same time they are sometimes blue if the glass is bad

                While living in Israel and Germany, where there is very strict control over anabolics and antibiotics, I have not seen any blue birds on sale. I had a friend from Russia as a guest, I was surprised that the broth was delicious, as in the village childhood of the Union of domestic chicken.
                1. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 19: 38 New
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                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  While living in Israel and Germany, where there is very strict control over anabolics and antibiotics, I have not seen any blue birds on sale.

                  It's just that in the USSR the technology of industrial slaughter and plucking was such that they turned blue.
                  1. Krasnodar 21 January 2020 20: 17 New
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                    Yes, but they were thin, like catwalk models! )))
                  2. opus 21 January 2020 20: 20 New
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                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    It's just that in the USSR the technology of industrial slaughter and plucking was such that they turned blue.

                    because of fear?
                    They plucked them alive?
                    belay
                    1. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 20: 30 New
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                      Quote: opus
                      because of fear?
                      They plucked them alive?

                      Dead. Then she plucked a pinch, a car like that. So there was a solid bruise and not a hen. winked
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Yes, but they were thin, like catwalk models!

                      But now you’ll put it in the pan, you will melt the gelatin pans. You will get so much lard from figs from fat.
                      1. opus 21 January 2020 21: 14 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        But now you’ll put it in a frying pan, half out the gelatin pans

                        no gelatin
                        there is a lot of water + binder + fat
                  3. eagle owl 21 January 2020 20: 36 New
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                    I don’t remember exactly, I’m just never a veterinarian, just because I don’t have a veterinarian to give a lecture from one nefig on one farm, there really is the technology of slaughter, processing of carcasses ... Yes, only the crap was not with the blue bird blue, and there’s nothing to eat, "Buchenwald fortress" - I heard just in line in the USSR, it was about chicken
                    1. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 20: 40 New
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                      Quote: Uhu
                      I’ve heard it in the queue in the USSR, specifically about chicken

                      With us, without any queues, they lay quietly so-so on the shelves until the end of the 80s and disappeared when yelling about salmonella began to be heard. And what didn’t they buy on the market? Oh, there were 4-5 kilos. And also without waiting in line.
                      1. eagle owl 21 January 2020 20: 46 New
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                        Brother, it was really expensive in the market, but I didn’t work then, the boy was. And so, harasho, I remember all these shops in the area ... Well, let's say one of them had an unofficial nickname "stinker" - is he already talking about something? wink
                      2. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 20: 51 New
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                        Quote: Uhu
                        Brother, it was really expensive in the market, but I didn’t work then, the boy was.

                        So this is the market economy for you. I have a grandfather, a pensioner, only there I bought them. He didn’t keep his own; he had goats.
                      3. eagle owl 21 January 2020 20: 59 New
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                        Duc, but you did not understand, what was I trying to say here? lol
                    2. Vikxnumx 22 January 2020 19: 55 New
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                      Brother, the market was really expensive

                      Yeah, Mommy once a month (less often, two) took her oil for sale with her father. Price - "+30 kopecks" to the oil in the store (200 g). I somehow weighed her whetstones -400 ... 410 g.
                      And she did not like to carry sour cream for sale - "some of you have it too thick!" (so in sour cream on the second day you can bend a spoon !!!). Natur. product...
        2. nikvic46 21 January 2020 17: 35 New
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          Looks like you had a shitty bosses. We had cooperative stores in every district. There were heaps of meat products.
          1. eagle owl 21 January 2020 17: 46 New
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            Bhe. Work area. There has never been a co-trade here in an alliance.
        3. opus 21 January 2020 20: 28 New
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          Quote: Uhu
          Tell you what in the Russian Federation was called the "blue bird"?

          Yes
          1. Sports "cyanotic" chicken of the USSR

          2. Fat Capitalist Broiler

          Recently, studies have been conducted and it turned out that chicken from the 1970s was more useful than six modern broilers. Modern technologies used in poultry and livestock breeding lead to the production of less nutritious food. So, six broiler chickens today have the same amount of omega-3 that one chicken had in the 1970s. The discovery, made as part of a study by the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF), wrote The Guardian
          This quality (item 2) is soy.
          Therefore, the average European consumes about 61 kilograms of soybeans annually

          Quote: Uhu
          A "long, green, sausage stinks"?

          Well, this and that did not seem to be.

          Even horse sausage was.
          Quote: Uhu
          Because in the store - horseradish in vegetable oil, some wretched "orders" for the holidays.

          it yes
          According to statistics, until 1990 in the USSR per person accounted for more than 40 kg of sausage per year. In the Soviet Union, the world leader in the production of sausages per capita, it never was
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            Quote: opus
            more useful

            Look at the photo yourself - what is there to eat?
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            Well, this and that did not seem to be.

            Do not believe me - over there. Well, really, something YOU bent. Sorry, it was - and it was, so to speak, systemic, not a single ... Here - s - not right
            Quote: opus
            Even horse sausage was.

            Here a tear from the topic ... Konyachya - it is different. That's for kazy ... Yikh - that's the sausage - so the sausage)
        4. Roman070280 22 January 2020 12: 09 New
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          As one acquaintance working at the dairy told, one dairy truck arrives every morning .. and every evening several trucks with milk / kefir / cheese / sour cream, etc., drive around the country from the same gate.
          And now the question is - when more MILK got into the human body .. under the USSR or now ..
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        let's not frankly cheat, and there was meat and sausages

        There were, but not for everyone. He himself traveled in the 70s from Kursk to Moscow for meat, butter and sausage. Yes, and in pre-perestroika times, I traveled from Zamkadia to the capital on weekends, I went for a week.
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 21 January 2020 16: 10 New
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          [quote = AUL] [quote = Barmaleyka] let's frankly not cheat, and there was meat and sausages [/ quote]

          Where were you, in Moscow and Leningrad?
          And in the province there was no nichrome. I wanted to indulge in sausage or sausages - it’s not a question, a trip from the enterprise to one of the capitals and there are no problems.
          My dad did this, two or three times a year, he went on excursions to the capital's gastronomes.
          We really didn’t feel a lack of meat and dairy products, because my grandmother and grandfather kept cattle in the village.
          Forgive me adherents of the CPSU and the Soviet system, but the food situation and not only food in the late USSR was disgusting and shameful. Deficit, blat, special distributors.
          1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 16: 42 New
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            in the late USSR

            key phrase.
            In the words of Stirlitz, the last impression is remembered. Therefore, purely psychologically, the period of the USSR was remembered in 1987 and beyond, and the attendant task ... was put aside in memory - badly. The current period after the 90s was left with the impression that it is better now. Therefore, people often compare not periods, but impressions of periods. But if you compare the dry numbers, then the picture is different. The simplest and most obvious comparison is the retail volume indices. If we analyze them, it turns out that the difference between the "deficit" of the late USSR and the current "abundance" is 20% for comparable categories of goods in physical terms.
          2. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 20: 56 New
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            Even the students had:
            Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
            special distributors
          3. NordUral 21 January 2020 22: 33 New
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            Forgive me adherents of the CPSU and the Soviet system, but the situation with food and not only with food in the late The USSR was disgusting and shameful. Deficit, blat, special distributors.

            Bold highlighted the keyword.
            For me, this is how the top consciously created a deficit in the USSR, preparing the present.
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      5. Den717 21 January 2020 16: 45 New
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        let's not frankly cheat, and there was meat and sausages

        And the sausage trains to Moscow - the machinations of Western propagandists? You talk about how "meat and sausage were" tell Chelyabinsk 80's. They knew that the sausage was and is, just did not know where.
    4. NordUral 21 January 2020 22: 31 New
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      Alexei, did you live in the USSR? Or only in the Russian Federation happened to eat?
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        Quote: NordUral
        did you live in the USSR? Or only in the Russian Federation happened to eat?


        He lived. Therefore, I know what I'm talking about.
        1. NordUral 22 January 2020 10: 53 New
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          And I lived, more than half of my life. He lived in the Urals, where he was born, lived in Stary Oskol, Anapa, and I have lived in St. Petersburg for 65 years.
          And he traveled around the country not so little. I saw different things, but not so much that people were already starving.
          Yes, the delicacies did not go to small towns and villages, it’s true, as in the big ones, too, they didn’t lie on every counter, but the main thing was enough for everyone.
          And the problems of lack of something - that is how they were deliberately created by a certain layer of power, preparing us for perestroika. So I think now.
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 22 January 2020 11: 15 New
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            It’s not a matter of delicacies; a god with nymth is a matter of delicacies. How can we explain the fact that there was no banal meat? Take for example my small town in the Kostroma region. In Soviet times, a meat factory, a sausage shop, a cheese factory, and a poultry farm worked for us. And the products that they released on free sale in the city were not. Paradox.
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              Alexei! Soviet times it was different. In one Soviet everything grew rapidly, in another it barely moved on brakes, and in the third it just began to bend, as during the years of perestroika.
              Where out of inability, and where out of malice. The Union did not collapse overnight; a great deal of work was done over decades.
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    Reading comments I find people who say look in the USSR imported wheat, and Russia exports, they say achievement.
    Comrades during the union, part of the crop went to cattle feed, and in 1990 it amounted to almost 57 million heads, according to the latest data for 2016, the number of cattle was 18,7 million heads

    And you did not think - where are these 57 million !!!!! goals sharply lost during the collapse of the union? AND ? So much so that already by 1993, the Bush’s leg was imported en masse.
    57 million head of cattle - this is a third of the TOTAL population of Russia (150 million people) - how could they be eaten like this in a couple of years? Indeed, by 1993 there were almost no cows left in the fields .....
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      And you did not think - where are these 57 million !!!!! goals abruptly what happened when the union collapsed? AND ? So much so that already by 1993, the Bush’s leg was imported en masse.
      57 million head of cattle is a third of the TOTAL population of Russia (150 million people) - how could they eat like that in a couple of years ? Indeed, by 1993 there were almost no cows left in the fields .....

      But how abruptly is it?
      By the year 93, the stock was 52 million. And Bush’s legs appeared just because the cows were slaughtered and sold beef abroad, as it is expensive meat. And in return they bought cheap stuff. Profit, capitalism, nothing personal.
      1. lucul 21 January 2020 17: 28 New
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        And the “Bush legs” appeared just because the cows were slaughtered and sold beef abroad, as it is expensive meat. And in return they bought cheap stuff. Profit, capitalism, nothing personal.

        That is, state collective farms (there was nothing private then) sold beef abroad, for currency, and from abroad bought back cheap worthless meat for their meat industry? Believe it yourself?
        It’s like in a joke: a business in Russian - find a whole box of vodka - sell vodka, with the money raised - buy vodka - get drunk.
        There are no words ......
        1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 18: 54 New
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          (there was nothing private then)

          laughing
          Tell you how people for half a year became ruble millionaires (talking about Soviet rubles if that)?
          You were either born in the Russian Federation, or you went to school already in the Russian Federation.
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            Tell you how people for half a year became ruble millionaires (talking about Soviet rubles if that)?

            And how many of them could this livestock spend? More precisely - to find the exit of meat abroad, to obtain the necessary sanitary standards? And all this with half a poke? When even now, for example, Polish meat is banned for sale in Germany.
            You were either born in the Russian Federation, or you went to school already in the Russian Federation.

            I was born in the USSR and a citizen of Belarus)))
            1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 19: 21 New
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              And how many of them could this livestock spend?

              it has already been written to you that only in your imagination all the livestock disappeared at once, in 1993 there were 5 million goals.
              Any meat processing plant could carry out free foreign economic activity after 1987.
              Yes, all half a poke.
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      Throughout the USSR, cattle were more than 120 million. Most likely, some of these 57 million head of cattle listed in the RSFSR was invented, but shown on paper.
    3. Sewer krainiy 21 January 2020 23: 39 New
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      And you did not think - where are these 57 million !!!!! goals sharply lost during the collapse of the union? AND ? So much so that already by 1993, the Bush’s leg was imported en masse.
      Just yesterday or the day before yesterday I watched the Top Secret Channel. There they showed the dashing 90s: wild predatory privatization, export and sale of everything and everything over the hill. Some individuals earned a billion greens a year. True, the emphasis was on metallurgy. But then everything was sold for a cordon, even the famous "red mercury" laughing laughing So someone first sold the “heads” abroad, boiled, then bought back “bush legs” for kickbacks, again the fat. Something like that, my opinion.
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    Quote: Private 89
    Comrades during the union, part of the crop went to cattle feed, and in 1990 it amounted to almost 57 million heads, according to the latest data for 2016, the number of cattle was 18,7 million heads. The conclusion suggests itself less cattle need to be fed, less feed is needed.

    Do you know that countries were different? What due to Central Asia and other republics in the USSR, of course, there were more cattle than in the Russian Federation?
    And it was so wonderful that there were a lot of cattle in the USSR, that there were already shops with empty counters. And they bought bread and did not eat meat.
    1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 16: 31 New
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      Do you know that countries were different? What due to Central Asia and other republics in the USSR, of course, there were more cattle than in the Russian Federation?

      57 million goals - this is the RSFSR, and not the entire USSR.
      And they bought bread and didn’t eat meat

      75 kg per person per year of meat and meat products in 1990 and 75,1 in 2018.
  • iouris 21 January 2020 12: 09 New
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    Omul? In 1982 in Irkutsk I saw him only in an alcoholic form in the museum of local lore. They said that Czechoslovakia was given a concession for certain debts. And right now there are Ketais already drinking water.
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      . And the Baikal omul? Caviar, venison, Yakut horse meat, Dagestan tour, Tuvan yak.

      I saw once, (I swear) in "pyatorochka" ... "Alenina" ... but I got some glasses for 126 rubles to buy (beef at the same price) ... and fish ... it’s generally .. they buy Alaska Pollock ... the rest, I don’t know where to go, probably in the "traffic lights". because the price tag is not Christian is not a fig, more expensive than meat, I want to ask from stake? Yes you woodpeckers generally beguiled the coast! people are trying to survive, and fish traders at 3 !!! times more expensive than meat they cram into a population that "last ... ear" eats up what is available -mintai- stored fish boch .. just fuck what happens.
  • Svarog 21 January 2020 12: 15 New
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    I can’t say for all of Russia, but for this ten or two villages I can for sure. The village is reborn. Houses are built no worse than elite suburban villages

    Moscow region?
    But where farmers work, things are going much slower. I'm not talking about the owner of the farm. There is a house, and cars, and everything else on the level. I'm talking about peasants who work in this economy. It can be seen that a small farm cannot provide the same level of salaries as an agricultural holding.

    Agricultural holdings and kill farmers .. All major agricultural holdings are somehow connected with the government and have the opportunity to receive long cheap (relatively) loans .. but farmers do not have such an opportunity .. Therefore, this process is natural and the farmer cannot compete with agricultural holdings .. from the farmers are doomed.
    Maybe this is the real way to revive the village? What is listed above is just a small part of our wealth. It is wealth. Large enterprises will not deal with such a “trifle”. They will provide food to the country. But small businesses can not only provide us with delicacies, but also live comfortably

    Revival of the village is not possible without the help of the state and its close attention to this problem .. But for our state this is still not a problem.
    Probably each of us wants Russia to become a rich and happy country again. And the happiness of the country begins with a small personal happiness of each person. Anyone who works is simply obligated to be happy. Otherwise, why do the rest?

    I fully support ..
    1. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 12: 33 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      Moscow region?

      In Soviet times, and occasionally now, I traveled to the Smolensk region. on the border with the Kalinin region. from the Western Dvina to Ozerny, somewhere 115 km. After 10 km. village, and now a wasteland.
    2. carstorm 11 21 January 2020 12: 36 New
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      so the future is with large holdings. and nothing can be done about it. they will produce the gigantic part of all production. and of course kill smaller ones. and here just everything rests on the ability to work in a totally competitive environment. Niche production will always be in demand. you just need to be able to sell it. it will be more expensive but the customer will always be. pretentious and loving organic produce. it’s just that farmers often do not understand that it’s not enough to grow it. in holdings, marketing departments are involved. You need to learn a lot. advertising sales customer service. I have a girl familiar pastry makes niche. handmade candies and the like. started from the page on the facebook and now there are several stores. but she studies constantly. at the same time managed to give birth during this time)
      1. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 13: 40 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        so the future is with large holdings. and nothing can be done about it. they will produce the gigantic part of all production. and of course kill smaller ones

        will not and should not, these are two completely different and practically non-overlapping market segments.
        the task of large holdings is to feed cheap food, the task of small-scale farming to bring diversity at a higher price, and all through one place, knocking down the prices, the small farmer enters the market of holdings, which defend themselves accordingly and destroy it, but the problem is that the small farmer does not have a real price they can buy a product, which means that states must intervene, for a start, at least with direct subsidies and stopping the flow of money to Moscow and washing it out of the periphery
        1. carstorm 11 21 January 2020 14: 20 New
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          So these things are what farmers need to understand. And to understand this you need to learn or at least find those who will do it for you. Well, you think that these segments do not intersect, but this is a bit wrong. They exist nearby and enable people to make choices. the farmer must understand how the market works and its laws. how to find your place and calculate risks in it.
        2. Victor N 21 January 2020 17: 51 New
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          In the United States and many other countries, farmers cooperated, created small sales enterprises. In Russia, it has not yet matured. We need procurers-implementers.
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            Quote: Victor N
            In the United States and many other countries, farmers cooperated, created small sales enterprises.

            Well I do not know. Near my house there are three shops within walking distance. So called "Farm Products". More expensive than in supermarkets, but there are enough buyers there.
            By the way, venison, saiga and horsemeat are mostly bought in these stores
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              Alexander hi
              They raised a very important topic. There is where to expand the topic further.
              Only here is bad luck. The seed stock and breeding herd are overwhelmingly imported and poorly controlled. It is not known on what GMO frauds, chemistry and steroids are grown. Large agricultural holdings drive directly, farmers are forced to resort to outbid.
              So do not flatter yourself about the quality of "farm" products, because in this area everything is not as rosy as we would like. And then, if large producers suffer less from exotic diseases, and the government generously compensates for their costs, then compensation to small private owners and private farmsteads is ridiculous, they do not allow you to recover from misfortunes and again "get on your feet." And getting into loans is almost equivalent to being "in the loop".
    3. maximaniak 21 January 2020 13: 21 New
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      Moscow region?

      No, I have personally seen and traveled throughout central Russia.
      Agricultural holdings and kill farmers .. All major agricultural holdings are somehow connected with the government and have the opportunity to receive long cheap (relatively) loans

      Not only the government. Foreign capital with cheap (with them) credit and cheap (with us) ruble
    4. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 11 New
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      There are practically no farmers in the Moscow Region, and those who have about a tenth of a horseradish in the total production ... the position of a small and medium-sized farmer depends very much on local authorities, the region is a district, if there is support and understanding, it is all the less or less good
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        There are practically no farmers in the Moscow Region

        and sterninum? !!!!! repeat
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 19: 49 New
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          I beg you, as the character of the famous cartoon said, do not tell my hooves.
    5. Edmond dantes 21 January 2020 15: 08 New
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      I fully support you, our state policy is focused on big business, and small chokes. And this applies to any field. For that, they are campaigning on the box to open their own business ...
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      Agricultural holdings and kill farmers ..

      And there is a new curse: "Schaub, you should work with an agricultural holding on a tender!"
  • tihonmarine 21 January 2020 12: 22 New
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    For several years now, starting in 2016, we have been collecting record grain crops. We practically provided ourselves with pork and poultry. We have drastically reduced agricultural imports and increased exports.
    The author writes well, but better read and look on YouTube what Shuvalov did with agriculture.
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      The author writes well, but better read and look on YouTube what Shuvalov did with agriculture.

      will help...? everything is the same in the refrigerator.
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        Quote: Aerodrome
        will help...?

        It will not help, do not hesitate, and the refrigerator is already empty.
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 13 New
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          And swell with hunger? Normal in our agriculture, normal
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            Quote: Andrey VOV
            And swell with hunger? Normal in our agriculture, normal

            Sorry, I didn’t know that you had a full refrigerator.
            1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 31 New
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              Yes, full, chicken, turkey, goose sex, pork in the freezer, homemade eggs, milk and more
          2. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 19: 49 New
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            Quote: Andrey VOV
            ok in our agriculture, ok

            Repeat often: "Halva, halva!" laughing
            1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 19: 51 New
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              And why should I say this, I work in the field of this, directly in the agro-industrial association
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                Quote: Andrey VOV
                , I work in the field of this, directly in the agro-industrial association

                Maybe you can tell me why my cat from the sausage shop angry faces?
                1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 19: 59 New
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                  I grow grain, rapeseed, beets, make butter, sugar and flour, and your cat doesn’t eat your sausage because the Murom who makes it forgot to put meat there, that's all and do not feed the cat sausage, it’s bad for the animal
  • bandabas 21 January 2020 12: 25 New
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    Well, I won’t argue about grain. As for the other ... Fish in the Murmansk region is more expensive than in Leningrad. The fishing fleet is destroyed, but those who remain prefer to unload at the norgs. Beef, pork and chicken ... Everyone has already strangled. I don’t even speak about local milk .. There are blueberries, lingonberries, cloudberries and red fish (for now). Well, mushrooms. And, on the ground, it grows from potatoes to strawberries (garden strawberries).
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      There are blueberries, lingonberries, cloudberries and red fish (for now). Well, mushrooms.

      Yes, in the Urals, we also have blueberries, lingonberries, cranberries, beets, potatoes, mushrooms if the year is mushroom, as well as quinoa, wild leek, rhubarb, sorrel, dandelion (finally before fig) .. and ... Nettle .. In general, a storehouse of everything, and no meat! so yes ... "whining" in vain ...! laughing
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        Congratulations to the Urals drinks We have all of the above by itself. But, you do not have Kamchatka crabs .. Ha! hi
    2. carstorm 11 21 January 2020 12: 43 New
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      I like to give an example of my hometown of Khabarovsk. we have so much of our milk that sometimes you don’t even understand who buys it all. and more and more new ones appear. Pereyaslovsky already wants to work with China and kefir exported)
      1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 15 New
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        And the poultry farm that was alive on the outskirts of Gorky? In the late 80s there was still a Korean director
        1. carstorm 11 21 January 2020 14: 22 New
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          KHABAROVSKY PLASTIC FACTORY FSUE this? like alive yes these poultry farms also divorced ....
          1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 28 New
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            I don’t remember exactly how I feel like it, they called it a bird, during the summer holidays I earned my first money there as a schoolboy))) and in a transfer of 80 I don’t remember what it was already, the warehouses rushed, the chicken coops broke and the hens ran away and caught them for a long time))))
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              I was small at that time and I only remember the explosions on Ilyinka in my year in 87. even in the Volochaevsky town of glass, a glass-shaker.
              1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 42 New
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                Exactly, at 87, the fungus got up cool))) we were just resting on the Ussuriysk, and such a hat suddenly, coolly)))
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                  here is the exact expression, cool. I first introduced the faces of the father and colleagues here they are ofigeli from what they saw)
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                    It was lucky that without casualties ..... and study at Prince Volkonsky alive?
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                      392nd District Junior Specialist Training Center
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                        Alive smoking room ...))))
    3. Victor N 21 January 2020 17: 58 New
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      Apparently, the fishing mafia in Murmansk - for so many years it has not been possible to solve the problem.
  • don-1500 21 January 2020 12: 26 New
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    Another Urya! I work in an agricultural holding under the supervision of the French. Expensive imported equipment, fertilizers, poisons, fuel and lubricants do not spare money, if only there is a result. And this note is the main item of expenditure, but as far as wages are concerned, then they have a pancake savings. Ammophos threw 360 kg / ha (8300 rubles) and paid 4.60 (price per hectare). Well, they damn sorry to pay at least 10 rubles? And my salary would not be 40000 but already 80000, and this is important for me, but for them it’s so ... dust
    1. don-1500 21 January 2020 12: 32 New
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      I forgot to say. More cameras hung everywhere almost in the outhouse
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        Why should a slave pay 2 times more? The slave will plow anyway. And he must understand that he is a slave everywhere! Even in the toilet!
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        Quote: don-1500
        More cameras hung everywhere almost in the outhouse

        -------------------
        Wow, it’s such a capitalism, the oversight is as if you are working on a sensitive facility and in your hands you didn’t control the combine, but nuclear secrets. laughing
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 16 New
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          Well, modern John Deere, this is not Niva or Don ... there’s a cabin on the plane
      3. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 15 New
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        And without cameras we’ll start to steal
        1. don-1500 21 January 2020 14: 26 New
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          With a decent salary, no one will steal. Yes, and so do not steal
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            They will steal at any salary ... They do not steal where they are not allowed to steal. Axiom ...
      4. carstorm 11 21 January 2020 14: 28 New
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        Well, how without them? Well, for an example from my field. during storage and transportation, whatever we do, losses do not always become smaller. and the only conclusion is theft, which is regularly adjusted for these figures. what does this not the top link do, namely, at the very bottom, starting with simple movers. Well, how else to explain the garage of a simple driver clogged with barrels with solarium? Well, as an example of what the Security Council finds out during observation. at what layoffs do not help. new ones come and do the same.
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      Another Urya! I work in an agricultural holding under the supervision of the French. Expensive imported equipment, fertilizers, poisons, fuel and lubricants do not spare money, if only there is a result.

      Well, I hear or see the words of a person "from the plow", who sees it as it is, not like
      And swell with hunger? Normal in our agriculture, normal
      1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 40 New
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        I work in an agro-industrial company, the owner is ours, the cameras are everywhere, the equipment is equipped with everything you can, everyone knows it, the salary is good, social work, and it’s the turn to get to work, yes, it’s hard especially to harvest and sowing, but the result is we, I personally I see, that's all
  • Loess 21 January 2020 12: 31 New
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    And by the way, it is Russia that ranks first in the production of these berries. And there is still honey, mushrooms, herbs.
    There are few reception centers in the village and the prices are cheap. Of the berries, it’s advantageous to collect cranberries. Those in the garden - how many do not collect, it is good if you earn on the road to the reception point and back. Well, or with a specific organization if you are lucky to conclude an agreement. I know a couple of people - they were lucky to agree with the restaurant. Cucumbers for him grow a certain variety. It seems to be profitable, despite the fact that the restaurant in the city is located 120 km from them.
    Purchase prices - this is probably the main trouble. Every farmer, every farm is now forced to seek marketing itself, but not everyone succeeds.
  • BARKAS 21 January 2020 12: 34 New
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    In fact, a village is not all agriculture; it is also forestry, medicine, education, roads with bus services, and much more that is necessary for a modern person.
  • Okolotochny 21 January 2020 12: 41 New
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    For comments of forever crying and forever aching - just compare the revenue figures of arms exports and agricultural products with food. In the USSR this was not !!!
    1. Barmaleyka 21 January 2020 13: 45 New
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      and now compare that we produce their CX ourselves and figure out what will happen, God forbid war, in the USSR this was definitely not
      1. Okolotochny 22 January 2020 00: 01 New
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        We produce ourselves - and the export of agricultural products and foodstuffs is not Sami ??? But do not tell me - the purchase of millions of tons of grain in the United States and Canada during the Soviet years - is it yourself or not? Or is it uncle from the Kremlin?
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          Quote: Okolotochny
          We produce ourselves - and the export of agricultural products and foodstuffs is not Sami ???

          have you been in the village for a long time?
          what we ourselves produce, seeds imported machinery imported I will tell you more the owners of many agricultural holdings are not in Russia
          Quote: Okolotochny
          But do not tell me - the purchase of millions of tons of grain in the United States and Canada during the Soviet years - is it yourself or not? Or is it uncle from the Kremlin?

          Do you even know what the purchased grain was and how it was redistributed? remind you the PRICE loaves of bread in the USSR and how often did this CHEAP bread used? !!!!
  • Ingvar 72 21 January 2020 12: 47 New
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    We practically provided ourselves with pork and poultry.
    With poultry meat is not so simple. Almost all hatching eggs are imported. On domestic big complaints.
    1. Loess 21 January 2020 13: 58 New
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Almost all hatching eggs are imported.

      It seems only 30% ...
      1. Ingvar 72 21 January 2020 14: 00 New
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        Quote: Less
        It seems only 30% ..

        More. From time to time I cross with the breeder of young broilers, his infa. He takes part of our egg, but the main Czech Republic and France.
    2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 14: 28 New
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Almost all hatching eggs are imported.

      And the seed fund, also from there.
      1. Vadim237 21 January 2020 17: 32 New
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        From 20 - up to 80% for all seed crops are imported - but there is not a hundred percent.
      2. Okolotochny 22 January 2020 00: 04 New
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        Do not smack nonsense, it hurts if you don’t know, then keep silent - almost the entire winter group is domestic breeding, corn - 40 percent of ours, very bad with sunflower and sahsvekla. There are objective reasons for this - the climate when breeding parental forms.
        The main seed growing region of the world leaders of Syngenta, Pioneer, Monsanto, is South America. Question - find regions with similar climatic conditions on a geographic map of Russia?
    3. Fisherman 24 January 2020 12: 24 New
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      I don’t know when I’m in Valday (fishing), I always buy chicken and eggs from my aunt. Of course the price tag is more expensive than the store, but the quality. I myself once traveled with her about 2 years ago from the village to the city to feed and saw how she feeds her birds. Therefore, I take it boldly from her.
      1. Ingvar 72 24 January 2020 13: 56 New
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        I myself once traveled with her about 2 years ago from the village to the city to feed and saw how she feeds her birds.

        It's ONLY about broilers. hi
  • Brigadier 21 January 2020 12: 51 New
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    "Cowsheds and pigsties everywhere. Cattle from the villages graze."

    Author. Where did you see this?
    Fiction on other sites.
    They write about reality.
    1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 18 New
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      And you go to the Belgorod region for example .... you will really be surprised
      1. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 20: 04 New
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        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And you go to the Belgorod region for example .... you will really be surprised

        Come to us, in Tula, admire the ruins.
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 20: 12 New
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          Ruins are not everywhere, there are areas where more or less, I know the Tula region
          1. ZAV69 22 January 2020 01: 08 New
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            Where is it less?
            The north of the area is more likely. Ruins and Moscow summer residents. In winter there is generally white silence.
            True, there are several large producers of potatoes, but they do not do the weather.
            1. Andrey VOV 22 January 2020 10: 25 New
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              Efremovsky, Bogoroditsky, Chernsky, Kurkinsky areas
      2. Okolotochny 22 January 2020 00: 12 New
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        You can also Tambov, Voronezh, Lipetsk - Rusagro, Miratorg.
        1. Andrey VOV 22 January 2020 10: 26 New
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          Miratorg mainly Oryol, Bryansk, in Lipetsk for a long time not Russagro.
          1. Okolotochny 22 January 2020 12: 16 New
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            In Tambov Rusagro? Tambov bacon is their brand.
    2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 14: 29 New
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      Quote: Brigadier
      Author. Where did you see this?
      Fiction on other sites.
      They write about reality.

      Well, liberal democrats like fiction here.
    3. domokl 21 January 2020 18: 56 New
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      Quote: Brigadier
      Author. Where did you see this?

      Western Siberia. Omsk region. It’s interesting where you didn’t see goats, sheep and cows near the villages ...
      1. Odysseus 21 January 2020 23: 37 New
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        Western Siberia. Omsk region. It’s interesting where you didn’t see goats, sheep and cows near the villages ...

        Excellent. We look at the specifics of the Omsk region. We don’t take the Soviet level, it’s, of course, an unattainable space. We’ve taken it recently.
        Cattle -2007-483 thousand, 2018-362 thousand
        Cows-2007-220 thousand. 2018-153 thousand.
        Pigs 2007-580 thousand 2018-440 thousand
        Sheep and Goats 2007- 171 thousand 2018-222 thousand
        The result is, in addition to goats and sheep, a drop in all respects.
      2. Odysseus 21 January 2020 23: 47 New
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        Western Siberia. Omsk region

        I found the latest information for 2019. In the Omsk region, a rapid deterioration
        https://www.omskinform.ru/news/134723
  • Gardamir 21 January 2020 12: 52 New
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    They started something upstairs. Dmitry Anatolyevich a new job, a new constitution. And the articles were shuffled in a jamb.
    1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 19 New
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      And again you, tell me, have you ever seen anything good in life?
      1. Gardamir 21 January 2020 14: 54 New
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        Yes please. Where there were collective farm fields, you can harvest brushwood (allowed in Russia) and pick berries.
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 56 New
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          There are places that are overgrown, but there are areas where you can not find a free shred
        2. Korax71 21 January 2020 17: 35 New
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          In some places, even a good young forest and mushrooms grow well good
          1. ZAV69 22 January 2020 01: 10 New
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            Judging by the nickname is also the Tula region? Not only mushrooms, but wild boars with roe deer.
  • karabass 21 January 2020 12: 57 New
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    Carried away You are a respected author! Very hot! There is no toothfish in Arkhangelsk and never was!
    in the Antarctic they catch him!
    1. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 14: 36 New
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      Carried away You are a respected author! Very hot! There is no toothfish in Arkhangelsk and never was!
      in the Antarctic they catch him!

      But in the Dry Sea, you can take salmon, and toothfish, like Pangasius, let Muscovites eat it.
      1. karabass 21 January 2020 19: 16 New
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        I respect salmon, only wild of course! BUT! Arctic char, sea omul, muksun and cheeks will be tastier. Toothfish did not try unfortunately
        1. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 20: 20 New
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          . Toothfish did not try unfortunately

          Good fish, but very few of them.
        2. Sewer krainiy 21 January 2020 23: 57 New
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          Arctic char,
          In!!! My youth ...
  • edeligor 21 January 2020 13: 14 New
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    The village is reborn. Houses are built no worse than elite suburban villages. Cowsheds and pigsties everywhere. Cattle from the villages graze. Something is growing in the fields.
    By whose order we sculpt, dear author ?!
    Those villages that belong to large agricultural holdings are reborn quickly.
    Here it is!
    For several years now, starting in 2016, we have been collecting record grain crops.
    This is because there is no cattle (cattle for the ignorant), everything was destroyed, namely, cattle, basically, was the consumer of the fodder that we, my friends, are currently feeding! And in general, an article is an order, for urban people. I declare to everyone - the village is being destroyed by the same agricultural holdings, and most of all by the Kudrinsky counters and Putin’s hangers-on, like the author. And the last one:
    we have currants and raspberries in every garden or orchard. And by the way, it is Russia that ranks first in the production of these berries. And there is still honey, mushrooms, herbs.
    Starting with Khrushchev, ending with Medvedev they want to impose a tribute as well. Throws about private ownership of forest lands and the upcoming census of TOTALs can be considered as future requisitions.
    1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 20 New
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      Small nonsense, dear, what kind of fodder do you feed ??? and cattle does exist, slowly but goes up, for a simple reason it’s more expensive to grow it, and it’s not only eating grain,
      1. edeligor 21 January 2020 14: 32 New
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        Don’t tell, friend, what is fodder. No need to exaggerate, you understand what I mean.
        1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 37 New
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          I asked you a direct question, and you begin to evade, can you still give an answer?
    2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 14: 43 New
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      Quote: edeligor
      I declare to everyone - the village is being destroyed by the same agricultural holdings, and most of all by the Kudrinsky counters and Putin’s hangers-on, like the author.

      These are the words of a person not from the city. You are right, it will soon reach the system that was created in the states and in some states of Europe. Read about it online.
    3. domokl 21 January 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: edeligor
      By whose order we sculpt, dear author ?!

      Direct indication of Putin. Why trifle something. I'm with him on a short leg. Only now he does not know me .. But he sends instructions constantly. Like our liberals, the opposition and Western spies ... The author, however, cannot have his own opinion. The reader can. But the author is not.
  • Altona 21 January 2020 13: 18 New
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    We have elementary currants and raspberries in every garden or orchard.
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    Pff ... The grapes are already growing, their own, zoned. It completely ripens itself, both food and wine varieties. In general, Chuvashia is not in vain called "sunny", many garden and garden crops grow in it. But with millet and rzhichka it’s somehow not been wondered since Soviet times, the yield is low, the main crop in Belarus is potato. But today many fields are empty. This is understandable, people are earning money, the land is empty, agricultural enterprises are ruined. The livestock was plagued by the threat of “pig plague” back in 2014, you yourself know for whom and for what.
    PS The only thing the author did not say is that care is needed for all this, otherwise the culture will degenerate and run wild over time.
  • knn54 21 January 2020 13: 23 New
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    The USA is strong, including, not least, its FOOD INDEPENDENCE,
    And the state will have to do a lot:
    -modern workplaces;
    - attractive salary;
    -normal living conditions- the construction of new roads, medical facilities, schools.
    And the provision of benefits for the purchase of housing, especially for young graduates. Perhaps it is advisable to transfer housing to ownership after 5 years. They will return to the system of MANDATORY working out at least three years after graduation.
    Almost all of this was done by Belarus.
    Sorry for the pathos, but either "village" .or death.
    1. Svarog 21 January 2020 13: 42 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Sorry for the pathos, but either "village" .or death.

      Nothing pathetic .. exactly. The village is not only food safety, but also demography. The village has always been the engine of the growth of demography ..
      1. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 22 New
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        There is a program in our area for doctors and teachers in the village, a million, plus housing, after a while it will be yours, I say again that many things depend on local authorities
        1. Sergej1972 23 January 2020 00: 37 New
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          And still, many doctors and teachers, even having received this help, are going to move to the city in a few years. Admittedly, the city and urban lifestyle are attractive to most.
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            I don’t know, I like my life, although I lived and worked in big cities and capitals for half my life, and even more.
            1. Sergej1972 23 January 2020 11: 31 New
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              And me, although I am a native villager, life in the village does not attract absolutely. Regardless of the presence or absence of infrastructure, salary levels, etc. I like life in the city, urban lifestyle. The village for me is only a place where I can visit my relatives and help them. And relax in the summer. Berries, mushrooms, etc. But live in the village - thank you ...
      2. Altona 21 January 2020 17: 43 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        The village is not only food safety

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        Well, Volodya, today a village can be made the same industry. Equipment for the fields today is powerful, wide-spread. Cows can be grazed by GPS, milked by their robotic systems, feeds are provided by automatic feeders. Possible weather conditions and the expected yield are simulated on a computer; seeds can be purchased at the biological exchange. Today it’s not Newton’s binom and it would be quite possible to deal with the village, and not put money into all kinds of “airbags”. Japan and Israel are building, for example, vertical vegetable beds and three bionic vegetable farms can fill Tokyo with food. A very interesting, promising and advanced topic nowadays is agriculture, which is closely associated with biotechnology. And our rulers of candy wrappers are collecting for some reason, they say for some kind of war. It is as if Stalin had accumulated the Reichsmark before the war, and not carried out collectivization and industrialization, complete nonsense in general. Some people can be settled in low-rise ecological villages, relieve crowding in cities and make lifestyle more harmonious as in Finland, for example.
        1. Svarog 21 January 2020 19: 24 New
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          Well, Volodya, today a village can be made the same industry. Equipment for the fields today is powerful, wide-spread.

          Eugene, of course. Progress does not interfere with the development of the village, on the contrary, makes life in the villages even more attractive. A huge number of people would like to live in a comfortable village, in nature and consume environmentally friendly products. This is a really interesting and very profitable topic, from the point of view of agricultural development, as well as the development of the village itself and lifestyle. But it will require serious attention and money from the state .. that, with today's managers, it’s simply not possible .. because they will steal money, they will pervert the idea ..
          1. Varyag71 22 January 2020 13: 15 New
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            Those who live on their land and to some extent provide themselves with many food products are more free in their actions and thoughts. For our government this is very bad. Therefore, something is being done to show off, but in fact people are being dragged into anthills at 20-30 floors. They are easier to manage.
          2. Sergej1972 23 January 2020 11: 36 New
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            A significant part of the rural population can be preserved if the occupations of the villagers are not limited to agriculture. But, in any case, the rural population will make up no more than a quarter of the country's population.
        2. Sewer krainiy 22 January 2020 00: 06 New
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          Some people can be settled in low-rise ecological villages, relieve crowding in cities and make their lifestyle more healthy.
          In Belarus, such villages are called agro-towns.
          1. Sergej1972 23 January 2020 00: 41 New
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            It is not the townspeople who move to these agro-towns, but the inhabitants of small villages.
            1. Sewer krainiy 23 January 2020 16: 09 New
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              [i] In these agro-towns, not the townspeople move, but the inhabitants of small villages. [

              As it were, and that way. We have small ones who wanted to have already moved. The work in the village, compared with the years since 1955-60, is not enough. Progress, however. Machine operators, milkmaids, livestock breeders .. but they give a contest, a house. And the city is resettled, first cottages, maybe the heirs to the so-called. the village will remain good There is asphalt in our area to villages and farms.
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                It is unlikely that the children who moved the townspeople will go to work in agriculture.
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          So it’s understandable why the Japanese, the Israelites have vertical so-called beds. They have a fertile land with a gulkin’s finger and by themselves they are forced to take such a path, I’m not saying that it’s bad, but we have a sea of ​​land! vertical beds and it is not necessary for nothing .....
          1. Sergej1972 23 January 2020 11: 39 New
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            And for me, the more land there will be under forests, reserves, national parks, the better. And better, more agricultural products are produced in smaller areas.
            1. Andrey VOV 23 January 2020 13: 29 New
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              To increase the harvest from 1 ha of land, so many factors are needed - fertilizers, varieties, pesticides, weather, technology, etc. etc.
      3. Vadim237 21 January 2020 17: 51 New
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        Yes, that’s just a revolution, civil war, surplus appraisal, Stalin’s policy from 1928 to 1953, the Great Patriotic War in the village went so well that I sometimes wonder how there was anything left - now we have what we have, the village dies away agricultural holdings, hydroponics vertical greenhouses are rapidly gaining mass, robotic equipment in the agricultural sector is spreading production volumes are growing and this despite the fact that the cultivated area under the agricultural culture is half that in 1990.
  • Odysseus 21 January 2020 13: 26 New
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    Let's look at the data of the Federal State Statistics Service for 2018 the number of rural residents in Russia decreased by 117 thousand people. There is no 2019-year statistics yet, but the trend is the same. Moreover, these are official statistics that have little to do with reality, now when the institute of registration does not work, many formally living in villages have not lived there for a long time.
    Take the cattle stock -1990, 57 million heads, 2000-27,5 million, 2019-18,6 million.
    Cows-1990-20,6 million, 2000-12,7 million, 2019-8 million. Well, etc.
    Where can one see the "revival of agriculture"? Or the author sees it in the principle of “undernourished, but exported” when, against the background of low domestic consumption, grain grown on foreign feed and machinery is sent abroad.
    Then I offer an excellent and clean market idea, and let's kill another 40 million people, imagine how many products we will save! And how much we can additionally withdraw !! And how will food security grow, and the capitalization of agricultural holdings !! In my opinion, patriotic.
    1. Loess 21 January 2020 13: 49 New
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      Quote: Odyssey
      Take the cattle stock -1990, 57 million heads, 2000-27,5 million, 2019-18,6 million.
      Cows-1990-20,6 million, 2000-12,7 million, 2019-8 million. Well, etc.

      In the 90s, the village survived due to the courtyard. And they consumed all the milk themselves or sold it in the nearest markets. But keeping cattle is not an easy task. Not a fig is not easy - who kept will not let lie. Therefore, with the outflow of youth from the village, with an improvement in the monetary situation at the beginning of the XNUMXs, and with the appearance of the same milk in stores at normal prices and uninterrupted supply, private traders began to get rid of cattle en masse. And for agricultural holdings, such a quantity of cattle is simply useless - more productive breeds, specialized feeds - all this makes it possible to maintain a smaller population with the same result.
      1. bubalik 21 January 2020 14: 15 New
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        In the 90s, the village survived due to the courtyard. And they consumed all the milk themselves or sold it in the nearest markets. But keeping cattle is not an easy task. Not a fig is not easy - who kept will not let lie. Therefore, with the outflow of youth from the village, with an improvement in the monetary situation at the beginning of the XNUMXs, and with the appearance of the same milk in stores at normal prices and uninterrupted supply, private traders began to get rid of cattle en masse.

        ,,, parents traded milk 90-beginning 00. Now only chickens and rabbits are kept. In the village of cattle no one keeps.
      2. Victor N 21 January 2020 18: 19 New
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        The domestic market for milk and dairy products is saturated, export deliveries have begun.
    2. Orkraider 21 January 2020 14: 16 New
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      Not so simple with cattle.

      Take the cattle stock -1990, 57 million heads, 2000-27,5 million, 2019-18,6 million.
      Cows-1990-20,6 million, 2000-12,7 million, 2019-8 million. Well, etc.
      Where can one see the "revival of agriculture"?


      Cattle stock is necessary in addition to meat and for milk. And here the interesting begins ..
      After 73 years of Soviet rule, the average milk yield of cows exceeded the milk yield of tsarist Russia. In 1991, in the RSFSR milk yield per cow in agricultural enterprises amounted to 2574 liters of milk per year. After all, the name "Soviet meat and dairy breed" said that this breed has neither meat nor milk. 6-8 tons of milk per cow have already reached the west.



      Today, agricultural organizations in Russia have done a lot of breeding, practically replacing Soviet cattle with new highly productive ones. After replacing livestock, the import of breeding animals ceases. Imports of live pigs are almost over. Already their breeding animals breed in Russia. With cattle, replacement work is still ongoing. But judging by the dynamics coming to an end.


      Therefore, with a reduction in livestock, there is an increase in milk yield, and this is a fact. The increase in milk production in the agricultural sector in 2018 amounted to 3,8%. In total, small, medium and large agricultural enterprises produced 16,2 million tons of milk, writes The DairyNews with reference to Rosstat's operational data.Moreover, milk yield per cow of the dairy herd in 2018 in the agricultural sector reached 6094 kg (+3,8 ,XNUMX%).


      In general, of course, I want to see more farms and a larger population, but the dynamics are positive in any case.
      And I’ll add, cheeses, curds are made from marketed milk; and butter. It is the production of commercial milk that is growing, especially rapidly after the support of a domestic producer.

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        In 2018, the shortage of milk (made up from the Republic of Belarus) was reduced to 3,5 million tons. Halved in 5 years. In a few more years, the last milk deficit inherited from the Soviet Union will disappear.



        For objectivity, I note: there is still a shortage of milk and is not compared with the indicators of the USSR. Therefore, another 7-10 years of state support is needed.
        1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 15: 56 New
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          For objectivity, I note: there is still a shortage of milk and is not compared with the indicators of the USSR.

          For objectivity, it was not necessary to use the phrase "milk deficit inherited from the Soviet Union"
          Entertaining arithmetic:
          Deficit in 2018 - 3,5 million tons
          Milk production in 2018 (according to the collection of the Federal State Statistics Service "Russia in Figures -2019", and not according to your funny pictures, where the numbers do not coincide with the Rosstat figures, decide who lies) - 30,6 million tons.
          This means that to deficit was not enough to produce 3,5 + 30,6 = 34,1 million tons.
          Attention, question))))) - what is the name behind the looking glass called, where 34,1 million tons of the Russian Federation - the absence of milk deficiency, and 55,7 million tons of the RSFSR - milk deficiency?
          1. Orkraider 21 January 2020 17: 09 New
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            You read and watch inattentively
            funny pictures
            .
            The answer is:

            1.
            55,7 million tons of the RSFSR - milk shortage.

            There are private household plots and agricultural enterprises. That is 2 types of milk. The milk that we see on store shelves is marketable. It goes to trade, to dairies, from them to shops. This milk is easy to account. There is also some kind of milk, which seems to be given by cows that are in personal subsidiary plots. How much of this milk is milked is completely incomprehensible. + \ - XX million tons. Agricultural censuses could clarify this figure.
            In the Republic of Ingushetia in 1916-1917, a general agricultural census was carried out. In the USSR, agricultural censuses have never been done. Before the collective farms, even the tsarist experts tried to carry them out, it was possible to selectively. But they were replaced by the annual reports of collective and state farms.
            Private traders were left unattended. From this agricultural statistics has become worse than in tsarist Russia
            For reports, this uncounted milk, was considered in such a way that it turned out that the private farms of the RSFSR produced 27 million tons per year. Another 25-30 million tons of marketed milk in Soviet Russia was produced by agricultural organizations (then collective and state farms). This allowed us to assert that 57 million tons were produced in the RSFSR.
            At the same time, there was a deficit, see the balance from the Inter-republican exchange of consumer goods from 1989:


            I in my hilarious pictures brought a modern lack marketed milk and his compensation from Belarus. And I pay attention again that I compare milk yield, that is, productivity per 1 cow.
            Does he understand?
            Not a general milk yield, namely milk yield per 1 cow of marketable milk.

            However, I wrote for a reason
            there is still a shortage of milk and is not compared with the indicators of the USSR. Therefore, another 7-10 years of state support is needed.
            .

            Dairy cows should produce milk, and meat varieties should produce meat. Then it will be good ..
            1. Foul skeptic 21 January 2020 18: 46 New
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              Private traders were left unattended. From this agricultural statistics has become worse than in tsarist Russia
              For reports, this uncounted milk, was considered in such a way that it turned out that the private farms of the RSFSR produced 27 million tons per year. Another 25-30 million tons of marketed milk in Soviet Russia was produced by agricultural organizations (then collective and state farms). This allowed us to assert that 57 million tons were produced in the RSFSR.

              And here I see in the figures for private farms within 12,7-13,5 million tons. And for collective and state farms, 38,3-41,5 million tons. And the numbers for private farms are when the machine arrives in the village and drives along the street, and the housewives with buckets come out of the yards and pour milk and take money in return. And this is also marketable milk, as it is being processed. General figure taken into account. It was just milk of personal consumption that did not fall into the calculation, and now it does not fall.
              Guess three times why the tables “Inter-republican exchange of goods” were not in the statistical collections until 1989 and how is this connected with the year 1987? And why is the deficit (based on the balance parameter proposed by you for consideration) 89 and 90 not correlated with milk production in these years (should the difference be the same)? The answer also lies in the first question.
              But even if we close our eyes to it, since you want to look at marketed milk, milk and even accept the “deficit” from the table of economic relations, and forget that the village was not in that state at that time and part of the population was on its unaccounted for milk.
              Then, for the USSR, we will leave at least 38,3 million tons of registered milk. In the Russian Federation now - 18 according to your schedule (although what then to do with Rosstat), with a deficit in the USSR of 4,2 million tons, it turns out that the country needed 42,5 million tons with 148,6 million people. Now 18,5 + 3,5 = 21 million tons for 146,7 million people will definitely be deficit-free?
              1. Orkraider 21 January 2020 20: 09 New
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                with a deficit in the USSR of 4,2 million tons, it turns out that the country needed 42,5 million tons with 148,6 million people

                You have a mistake in indicating the number of population in the USSR. According to the census, the population as of January 12, 1989 was 286,7 million
                Total 42,5 million tons per 286,7 million people. Coeff. 0,148.
                Now 18,5 + 3,5 = 21 million tons for 146,7 million people will definitely be deficit-free?

                Coeff. 0,143
                Parity..


                But you still discuss a little different than what I'm trying to convey.
                I compare milk yields, that is, productivity per 1 cow at that time and now.
                Not general milk yield, namely milk yield per 1 cow of marketed milk
                and explain the reason for the reduction in cattle stock in comparison with that period.


                The minus is not mine, I return the plus.
                1. Foul skeptic 22 January 2020 08: 20 New
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                  You have a mistake in indicating the number of population in the USSR.

                  Yes, of course. I meant the population of the RSFSR and the amount of milk produced in the RSFSR. Just a typo.
                  Therefore, there is no question of any parity.
                  But you still discuss a little different than what I'm trying to convey.
                  I compare milk yields

                  I wrote my first comment to you on a message about milk shortages, there is not a word about milk yield, nor about cattle stock.
                  Naturally, milk production is now 2,5 times higher compared to that time.
                  The minus is not mine, I return the plus.

                  I’m an adult uncle, I’m not upset about the cons. )
          2. Vadim237 21 January 2020 17: 59 New
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            You do not forget that Russia also exports all dairy products.
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              There a little bit
              1. Orkraider 21 January 2020 20: 24 New
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                Here is a good tablet you have provided.
                Look at note 1, and you will understand why I wrote above:

                There is also some kind of milk, which seems to be given by cows that are in personal subsidiary plots. How much of this milk is milked is completely incomprehensible. + \ - XX million tons. Agricultural censuses could clarify this figure.
                In the Republic of Ingushetia in 1916-1917, a general agricultural census was carried out. In the USSR, agricultural censuses have never been done.
                1. Foul skeptic 22 January 2020 08: 28 New
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                  I am aware of note 1.
                  As in the course, how the census went. Look at the plate and make sure that it did not serve as any revelation - the figures before and after practically do not differ (29,9 and 29,8 million tons of production)
              2. Vadim237 21 January 2020 20: 52 New
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                Russia needs to grow another 10 million dairy and meat herds, and then some kind of small export and work will not appear in the countryside, and even if you build a cowshed for 1000 heads, 10000 cowsheds will need to be built,
                and so on the herd the alignment in the world is not in our favor
                1. Orkraider 21 January 2020 22: 10 New
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                  I agree that you need to continue to invest in food safety. That's why I wrote that I hope for continued support for another 7-10 years. And then the situation will be much better.

                  I also want to write that small farmers also contribute. There are friends who have moved from town to the village (well, as acquaintances, I just started buying from them) who make cheese themselves, cheese is not cheap, about 1000-1300 rubles per kilogram, but they have demand. Milk, kefir, sour cream are sold, bread is baked. There are about 40 cows in them. What am I doing this, probably to the fact that the economies are slowly but recovering, and they need the support of both the state and ours. Ours is that we buy their products and support those who really produce high-quality and tasty food.
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                    We don’t need ordinary cows, but with energy generation, they are already using reactors in manure to generate heat and electricity, thereby significantly saving on costs. These capacities can be combined with, say, a crypto farm - milk, meat, cryptocurrency, its own generation. Some guys did this for them. The cooling of the modules is due to the oil. This oil flows through pipelines and heats the poultry farm.
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                    Quote: Orkraider
                    And then the situation will be much better.

                    But they say no prophet in his own country. What in ten years will not be known to anyone. So let's wait.
                    Quote: Orkraider
                    Ours is that we buy their products and support those who really produce high-quality and tasty food.

                    Is it with falling real income? good
    3. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 24 New
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      The decrease in the population in the village is also due to objective factors, and technology has come here, it is not necessary really so many workers in the field now. How much earlier
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      Quote: Odyssey
      Then I offer an excellent and clean market idea, and let's kill another 40 million people, imagine how many products we will save!

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      The existing export-raw material model will leave 40 million for the whole country, and will not feed more gas and oil pipes.
  • eagle owl 21 January 2020 13: 28 New
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    Farming is a narrow niche. And as the author of CAM himself noted, this will not revive the village. Have you imagined a village with at least 50 houses, each with a farmer? they will produce the same products, simply by virtue of geography. Will they sell to each other? Scallop under cones and omul in honey? And an agricultural holding company settled in the neighborhood will easily knock them out of the market, since it’s a profitable business - due to turnover, the price will be lower.
    This is how hypermarkets crowd out small shops. They do not disappear at all, but their niche is small.
    Further -
    This is due to the fact that only about 10% of the country's population is employed in agriculture. And the share of agricultural in GDP is only 4,7% ($ 100 billion).

    The first part is called mechanization of labor. Now you do not need as many peasants as it was in RI. Therefore, there is an outflow to cities everywhere; China generally takes people to cities centrally. Relocates, industrialization call. The second part is the author, you know. why are banana republics so called? Bananas are cheap, like all agricultural products, grown a bunch of bananas, sold. I bought fuel for tractors - and also should have stayed. Therefore, the share of the agricultural farm is small, and in general it is sponsored everywhere. For example, in fractions. so as not to run far behind developed agriculture. The interest on the fact is generally negative, if the rate of return to the budget
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      Therefore, the share of the agricultural farm is small, and in general it is sponsored everywhere. For example, in fractions. so as not to run far behind developed agriculture. The interest on the fact is generally negative, if the rate of return to the budget


      hi
      Let me disagree with you.
      On the example of the same France, which have made world brands on a number of their agricultural products and have far from ordinary%.
      Dijon mustard, Champagne, Calvados, Cider, Mayonnaise. And small artels, from the Cote d'Azur, supply oysters to restaurants and have good money from this. I can give an example of Italy and their farmers who sell dried tomatoes and dried porcini mushrooms in the markets. When I was on a business trip, in the industrial part of Italy, I saw in the mornings how these products are actively purchased by local people. And they buy it at the markets and small shops.

      My opinion is that the main message of the author is: we must love and appreciate what we have, our multifaceted country with a unique culture and cuisine, with a huge number of gastronomic delights that can be sold not only domestically (but in the beginning you need to promote yourself ), but also abroad. Not only Caviar and Vodka tongue

      And small artels and households, with the initial participation of the State, can also sell. Here you correctly pointed out, without initial support (and finances and participation), nothing will come of it.
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        Love-appreciate - I agree. Oysters are a NARROW niche. To restaurants, yeah. It's like in the Russian Federation somewhere near Voronezh there is a village. brooms are knitted with the whole village. Will this help the rest of the villages to revive?
        Stamps. Champagne, Dijon. And they do agricultural holdings! Or personally, the widow of this Clicquot still runs through the vineyards ?!
        Love-appreciate - yes. But we must clearly understand that agricultural production from private hands has gone a long time, it is uncompetitive. This is the first.
        So many people in the village are not needed right now (productivity has increased — mechanization), and it’s even harmful — the country does not have enough workers in the workplace. By the way, that’s why one and a half billion China pursues the state policy of urbanization - THERE are not enough hands. And us - 10 times less.
        All. there will be no Potemkin villages and Afonya will not go back to the village - he and then there was no fucking do
  • Old bun 21 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    Lord!
    how well written.
    Probably each of us wants Russia to become a rich and happy country again. And the happiness of the country begins with a small personal happiness of each person. Anyone who works is simply obligated to be happy. Otherwise, why do the rest?


    for once agrees to 100 with each letter
    We have elementary currants and raspberries in every garden or orchard. And by the way, it is Russia that occupies the first place in the production of these berries. And there is honey, mushrooms, herbs. And the Baikal omul? Caviar, venison, Yakut horse meat, Dagestan tour, Tuvan yak.

    There are fish and seafood that they will tear off with their hands in the West: St. Petersburg smelt, Black Sea anchovy, Arkhangelsk toothfish. And the Baltic hedgehogs? Murmansk scallop? Magadan trumpeter? Black Sea oyster?


    thanks to the author. these are indeed our riches and we must begin to realize them.
  • 1536 21 January 2020 13: 34 New
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    Where does the figure come from that 10% of the country's population is employed in agriculture? According to Rosstat, the rural population in Russia in 2018 is 26% and 74 is urban, with a total of 147 million people. If, of course, we assume that 16% of the rural population are dependents, then we can agree with the figure of 10% of those who really work. Something is wrong in this article ... And in my opinion it is still premature to talk about the effectiveness of agriculture in Russia in the XNUMXst century. Moreover, the news that we, for example, no one wants to eat "marble beef", therefore, it must be sold to China, at least alarming.
    For comparison, in the United States - 4% of the purely rural population with a total number of more than 300 million citizens. In Europe, approximately - 10%, with more than 500 million people.
  • ugrums1961 21 January 2020 13: 43 New
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    Sad author. For ten or two dozen, the author makes a conclusion about them in our agriculture. Maybe these villages within the garden ring then yes. It’s still flourishing. Agricultural holding Yes, they are fattening, but there is a small fraction of workers, and they process large masses of fields. But to them a villager, there is no work in the villages, they dug and drank what kind of metal. Young people, not wanting to eke out a miserable existence, went to cities. Only pensioners remained in the village. And this situation is beyond the Urals in almost all villages. That’s the conclusion, who will be the acre agroholding to feed the army and navy.
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      Maybe these villages are within the garden ring

      I read your comment and remembered about Grudinin ... Probably by the rain ...)
    2. Andrey VOV 21 January 2020 14: 25 New
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      Where do you yourself live and what is your relationship to agriculture?
  • Operator 21 January 2020 13: 46 New
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    Quote: AUL
    Have you ever tried in the fall somewhere in the Chernozemye to drive from at least one village to the neighboring one?

    I go to the non-Chernozem region all year round.
  • Undecim 21 January 2020 14: 29 New
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    But where farmers work, things are going much slower. I'm not talking about the owner of the farm. There is a house, and cars, and everything else on the level. I'm talking about peasants who work in this economy. It can be seen that a small farm cannot provide the same level of salaries as an agricultural holding.
    A small farm, by definition, cannot serve as an employer and a source of salaries.
    Of the 10 million farms in the EU, 75% are less than 5 hectares, are family-owned enterprises and consume up to half of their output. Therefore, with the task of "reviving the village" and for salary - this is not for them. They themselves would make ends meet.
    But 2,9% of large farms produce 60% of all agricultural products of the European Union.
    1. Undecim 21 January 2020 14: 52 New
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      The foundation for the development of agriculture.
      About the need to revive the village
      Paradoxical as it may seem, in the conditions of intensification of agricultural production, the village is not the foundation of agriculture and there is no need to revive the village, since the number of people employed in agricultural production is constantly decreasing. In the EU, this is 2,5% annually.
  • Strashila 21 January 2020 15: 16 New
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    "The foundation for the development of agriculture. On the need to revive the village" in order to revive the village, it is necessary to revive education, medicine, culture in the countryside, all that the last decades have been optimized by our government minus.
    Given the fact that from all the media it is pouring out that the hard worker is not a lucky one, you won’t have to wait for miracles.
  • mag nit 21 January 2020 15: 54 New
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    What kind of nonsense? Enough and one storyteller, who for 20 years, "revives" the village and agricultural.
  • BAMIIuP 21 January 2020 15: 58 New
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    agricultural holdings ...
    I live in Primorye, myself from the village, my father lives there now. In the 90s, the only village we had was in an area where, in the slightest, they paid live money. Fields, cattle. About 10 years ago, representatives of such an agricultural holding came, told fairy tales, there will be work, there will be EVERYTHING. Units of the majority of workers were bought, and then they muddied and in general, our state farm, our OJSC, was sold for 1.5 MILLION damn rubles. The Chinese worked for some time in the fields, and then they dismantled and sold everything. Workshops, a pigsty, 3 farms, a grain mill and more, which they could reach. After that, they again sold our state farm to the new owners. They bombed what the previous did not have time ... So it happened three more times. As a result, there is no work, no nichrome, they live practically on subsistence farming, but those who are younger than 30km go to work, the rest survive as they can.
    here you have cool agricultural holdings and village revival
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    The problem is the education of children. There are few children in small settlements, hence low-grade schools with school buses, as a result, the cost of one student is 5-6 times higher than in full-size ones. Conclusion - either the budget incurs increased costs, or in a minimum village there should be at least 400 school-age children (per school). I do not consider boarding schools, all parents will choose a move. There is home schooling, external studies, etc. but this is still poorly distributed. So I am a supporter of the shift method, good roads and living conditions in the field camps. This will facilitate the transition to robotic agricultural. And yet - without animal husbandry and vegetable growing, the scope of their processing, no food security will be close. Fruit and berry confiture is also not superfluous. And these spheres provide far more jobs than mechanized production of grain and other crops. There are a lot of niches, the problem is in paid demand. And this is a matter of welfare ...
  • Radikal 21 January 2020 16: 45 New
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    I like to give an example of my hometown of Khabarovsk. we have so much of our milk that sometimes you don’t even understand who buys it all. and more and more new ones appear. Pereyaslovsky already wants to work with China and kefir exported)

    Is there milk in this "milk"? winked lol
    1. Vadim237 21 January 2020 18: 06 New
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      Well, out of a million tons of imported palm oil, you won’t make 34 million tons of milk exactly how much was produced in Russia last year. But remember Soviet margarine - instead of butter.
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        But remember Soviet margarine - instead of butter.

        Of margarine, perhaps only baked cookies, and sometimes fried eggs on it.
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    I do not agree with the author. My father-in-law lives in the Tonkino of the Nizhny Novgorod Region, as the village was destroyed in 90 years, so the men go on shift. Previously, the village had its own dairy, farm, and state farm. They built some kind of housing. Now there is only a sawmill, a bakery. There is no work. Well-lived state employees-pensioners, doctors, cops, administration, teachers. They pay at least something. Young people are eager for the city, clutching their teeth at any opportunity to stay in the city. Only old people remain in the village and there is nowhere for anyone to escape. Fields are abandoned, there is no one to deal with them. State farm no. Helps private farming. And this is a district center. And what the villages around are, it's quiet horror. Two, three residential buildings for the whole village of 40 houses. Now, even if some kind of farm appears, I don’t know if it will find ... yes, the average salary level is 15,20 thousand
  • Dmitriyag 21 January 2020 16: 53 New
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    The next order, karasiki at the bazaar, and you try to grow a cow, and then they will take it away from you, after a made-up pretext, for 3 kopecks, but the region will fulfill the meat plan
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      For what fictitious pretexts did you take the cows there - stop inventing it.
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  • nikvic46 21 January 2020 17: 39 New
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    No doubt, now there is a blockage of products in stores. The only question is whether they can send such products for export, because they have different quality requirements.
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  • Krasnodar 21 January 2020 18: 03 New
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    [/ quote] The myth that agricultural production in Russia is risky. Who remembers this today? But there was a risk. They knew how to grow, collect, but did not know how to store. Finally learned this [quote]

    Such is risky and not only in Russia - there are a lot of baltams - emergency situations - from bad weather to thieving workers who work "the same way they get paid." And how much do not pay.
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    Well, out of a million tons of imported palm oil, you won’t make 34 million tons of milk exactly how much was produced in Russia last year. But remember Soviet margarine - instead of butter.

    I remember well - margarine was excellent. sad
  • Radikal 21 January 2020 18: 14 New
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    Quote: Vadim237
    Well, out of a million tons of imported palm oil, you won’t make 34 million tons of milk exactly how much was produced in Russia last year. But remember Soviet margarine - instead of butter.

    This is about dairy products in the Russian Federation - http://www.mzhsr.ru/news/novosti-otrasli/rossiya-pokupaet-palmovogo-masla-bolshe,-chem-moloka
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      There is a lot of real milk - it is checked on itself, and in independent labs.
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    Iron horse (agricultural holding), replaces the peasant horse ... smile
  • Old Michael 21 January 2020 18: 56 New
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    On a powerful topic, the author swung. But it turned out - I just scattered the sores. And, judging by the comments, everyone has their own set of such sores, and the medicines for them are also their own, family ones.
    Anyway, plus the author. This must be done, it is important - to make you worry, think, make some decisions and tear your asses from their incubated / laid sofas.
    One of a thousand tears from the couch - the article has already been written in vain.
    But for this:
    Anyone who works is simply obligated to be happy. Otherwise, why do the rest?

    - just masculine thanks.
  • Tank hard 21 January 2020 20: 37 New
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    And the happiness of the country begins with a small personal happiness of each person.

    Absolutely right! hi
  • Radikal 21 January 2020 22: 33 New
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    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: Vadim237
    Well, out of a million tons of imported palm oil, you won’t make 34 million tons of milk exactly how much was produced in Russia last year. But remember Soviet margarine - instead of butter.

    I remember well - margarine was excellent. sad

    PS By the way, I forgot to ask - why margarine instead of butter? Both butter and margarine were of excellent quality, natural, according to GOST. Or did you just use margarine? winked
    1. Mordvin 3 21 January 2020 23: 30 New
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      Or did you just use margarine?

      He did not use at all, since he is thirty years old.
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        Relatives used.
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          Relatives used.

          Well, I’ve never seen anyone smearing margarine on a roll. There was no oil shortage. At least with us.
  • Griban 21 January 2020 22: 56 New
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    I have lived all my life in the village. The chief agronomist of the economy in the Rostov region. Of course it is good that people understand the importance of agricultural for the country. But I ask the author not to write about this area, in general! You are too far from understanding the processes taking place not only in agriculture but in the countryside as a whole.
    1 The author correctly indicated that they overtook for the first time in 50 years. There is nothing surprising: there was a crop rotation before, in my zone 9 is full, for example, that is, the area under the crop is very limited. As noted in the comments 54 million cattle. they need to be fed and not only wheat (hay, silage, haylage, beets, etc.), another minus 30% of the area. Now, at best, 5 crop rotation without cattle. The share of wheat is at least 40% of the area. In other words, the logical result, given the fact that in terms of yield, we lagged behind them by about 30 years.
    2. The bird. All breeding material (eggs) is foreign. The possibility of getting one is only being discussed. (Small poultry farms are excluded, there is no question of the purity of the line)
    3 advantage of agricultural holding vegetables over farms is explained by too unequal conditions of support and systematic understatement of the yield of the latter (tax evasion). (This is very brief)
    3. There is honey in the country. And a lot, just beekeepers as a rule do not draw up an IP. (At least in our area, not one has issued, and is not a union of beekeepers)
    4. Raspberries, currants, etc. should be produced in horticultural enterprises. If this is not done for the market (bazaar), but at the national level, then the price of the products will be either too high for the consumer or too small for the manufacturer (resellers, transportation, storage, processing). Mushrooms are a separate issue, too dangerous.
    5. Fish (omul, etc.) only under state supervision, otherwise extermination and red book.
    The salvation of the village is not here!
    No illusions needed. We are far from ensuring food security except for sunflower and wheat!
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      For meat has already been reached,
      and for grain it’s the same all the same 123 million tons is not enough.
  • lopvlad 22 January 2020 03: 06 New
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    I can’t say for all of Russia, but for this dozen or two villages I can for sure. The village is reborn. Houses are built no worse than elite suburban villages. Cowsheds and pigsties everywhere. Cattle from the villages are grazed. Something is growing in the fields. And you can’t meet a drunken man on the street, as it was a couple of dozen years ago. People work.


    I read and understood that the author was in some kind of looking glass and believed in him. The reality is bitter and hopeless.
    VILLAGE RUSSIA DIES OUT
    A sown field and in some places a pig farm grown like a mushroom, the stench from which will overtake any Soviet filtering fields, dying the neighboring river or reservoir by no means a revival of the village. You really can’t meet a drunk man because he either died while working in the city or at the nearest churchyard. and not yet reaching the old retirement age.
    Even those that "stand on the highway" the villages are half empty and those that are several kilometers from the highway and the asphalt does not go completely extinct, only the huts and houses remained like orphans overgrown with weeds with photographs on the walls of their deceased owners, clippings from Soviet newspapers and magazines .
    And these are not risky farming zones, but the Russian central black earth. Agricultural holdings and agricultural corporations do not need local villages for their business, they calmly transport workers either on a rotational basis or "pick them up in the morning and take them in the evening" to their livestock complexes from the district center or even the neighboring region
    1. EvilLion 22 January 2020 08: 16 New
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      Do you need a village or agricultural products? If agricultural holdings solve the problem without scattering the population in small villages, then this is for the best.
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    So in FIG these farms are needed, the same collective farm in terms of opportunities, agricultural holdings are much more efficient. The collective farm - it was good in the 30s and MTS was sure to be near, then it was a step forward compared to single farms incapable of anything.
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      agricultural holdings are much more effective


      Yes, it’s much more effective, the second place in the world in oncology and we strive for the first place.
      It is enough to compare the number of cattle and small cattle on the collective farms of the RSFSR of the late 80s and in the agricultural holdings of modern Russia to understand that the agricultural holdings are downshifters, while feeding the animals with chemicals and filling the soil with roundup (causes oncology).
  • Old Orc 22 January 2020 13: 33 New
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    The death of the village and the transition only to industrial production of agricultural products is inevitable. But with time.
  • Radikal 22 January 2020 15: 42 New
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    About how, in a historically short period, we almost resolved the issue of food security of the country.
    Oh how! And the fact that almost all "food" Soviet GOSTs have been canceled - does this have any relation to food security? And the fact that now the seeds of almost all sowing crops are purchased abroad, and not just abroad, but from the infamous American company Monsanto, does this somehow affect food safety? sad
  • arhPavel 22 January 2020 16: 07 New
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    Is this "Military Review"?
  • Sergej1972 23 January 2020 11: 49 New
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    When we talk about 26% of the rural population, we must take into account the fact that in recent decades a number of urban settlements, small towns have been transferred from urban to rural settlements. Plus, formally, the rural population includes residents of large villages and village-center centers. For the most part, residents of this type of settlement are not engaged in agriculture, and lead a significant part of the urban way of life. Many live in apartment buildings. So the real percentage of the real rural population engaged in agriculture is less than the declared 26%.
  • Fisherman 24 January 2020 11: 54 New
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    I regularly travel by car to the regions: Novgorod, Tverskaya, Smolenskaya, Moscow, Vladimir, Nizhny Novgorod, to Mordovia. Often I climb into the wilds, i.e. far from federal highways. Roads are being built, at least they began to follow them, at least they put patches, and sometimes they completely shift the asphalt. This is exactly what they did in the Novgorod region, as the locals call the "highway to Demyansk" (the road from Valdai to Demyansk). Previously, the first 10-12 km there was more or less coverage, 90-100 could go without any questions about the suspension. Then the amba ... I still have to go 30 kilometers to the place and I'm going at a speed of 10-20 km \ h, because I regret my car. Many, both local and newcomers (rich, poor and middle class) fly 50-60 km / h, that they can be heard for 500-700 meters, if you stand on the road. Now they put new asphalt. Already 20 kilometers were precisely laid and another 40-50 kilometers were marked. I think that by the summer these same 50 km of roads will do. Apparently, the governor of the Novgorod region got the head from the GDP when he was in the Kremlin that year.
    Now about the villages themselves. I’ll tell you briefly about the Novgorod village, where I go fishing 2-3 times a year for mushrooms and cranberries. It’s far from the federal highway (Moscow-Peter), 40 kilometers with a tail. The village is rather big (there are definitely 50-60 houses), but there are houses that are completely crooked. Or the owners simply abandoned their homes and went into the city, for example, in Valdai, or where else, or they just died. But there are local houses that are solid. Local, though they plow at 2-3 jobs and still have their own farm. But those regions do not particularly indulge in crops, although they grow potatoes, apples and other crops that do not require painstaking maintenance. They keep cattle (pigs, cows, goats, rams were not allocated, probably there). The bird is also kept: geese, ducks, hens, turkeys. Of all the above, my aunt has no sheep, a cow or a goat. But people are simply being killed. They drink only on weekends, and in the morning at 7-8 even get up on the weekend and go forward to their garden or wherever to do housework. The benefit of mushrooms and berries is in abundance; they are also harvested and sold. But still not enough. There are 2 entrepreneurs in the village. One is associated with the forest, the other by products (meat, milk, eggs, poultry). Both local, 50-60 years old. Their sections are clearly distinguished from all others. Muscovites and Petersburgers buy plots for cottages. And local people often earn extra money on the sites. Hard but spinning. He who works, he lives, who drinks, at best survives. I did not see any drunks on the street, everyone is busy with business. Spin in short.
    Whenever I arrive there I buy local chicken and eggs from grannies or that entrepreneur. The price tag is more expensive than in a store, but for that a natural product. True, grannies have better products.
    1. agond 24 January 2020 19: 50 New
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      You read and think, oh, what are the prospects in rural areas in the countryside, but meanwhile, grain yields in the middle belt are about 20 centners per hectare, in terms of 1 m2 of about 200 grams per year !!! , and if counted per day, then about 1 gram. The price of grain is 10 rubles / kg, that is, from 1 m2 the revenue will be 2 rubles per year. that is, without taking into account the costs of plowing, planting, cleaning, transportation, loading unloading, storage, paying taxes ... To earn a person for a year, for example, 150 thousand rubles, you need to sell grain for 500 thousand rubles, that is, get a crop from a plot of land (500 000/2) = 250 000 m 2 that is, from the land 0.5 km to 0.5 km. and for an annual income of 600 thousand rubles, you will have to plow a square kilometer.
  • Comrade Kim 27 January 2020 22: 34 New
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    Good article, a little lyrical.

    The author wrote: "It is large enterprises that occupy the leading place in the structure of agriculture. It is agricultural holdings that account for 53% of the total production. Farmers are only 13%. Even personal farms give more."
    The correct remark, the farmer relies only on himself, and the agricultural holding is surely diversified, does not depend on the time of the year, weather, etc., they earn everything from claw trading to bitcoin farms.

    But the main trouble is that how the tax legislation works for us.
    Left the village Clear Dawns to Moscow, a man who pays taxes to the budget of Moscow, like a woman who left Karachay-Cherkessia.
    It requires global capital, cities need new blood - people.
    The Small Homeland, which these people left, will receive less taxes, the land will not wait for the owner’s relationship.
    But a holy place is never empty.
  • starik80 28 January 2020 10: 58 New
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    Who will go there? In the suburbs you can find abandoned villages, not to mention the Voronezh Saratov Volgograd, etc. There is no work there, but if there is, then ZP is funny. Young people will not go there ... there is no medicine, there is no infrastructure, what can we say about the village, now the question is about maintaining small towns with a population of 50k.