Putin: All veterans of the Great Patriotic War will receive 75 thousand rubles

Putin: All veterans of the Great Patriotic War will receive 75 thousand rubles

A lump-sum payment to the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War to war veterans will amount to 75 thousand rubles, and to home front workers - 50 thousand rubles. This was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with veterans and representatives of public patriotic associations in St. Petersburg.


The President recalled that usually on the anniversary of Victory lump-sum payments amount to 10 thousand rubles for veterans and 5 thousand rubles to home front workers, but this year it was decided to increase lump sum payments.

We [this year] have 75 years of Victory, so we will provide (...) assistance related to this date: we will allocate 75 thousand rubles to veterans and all categories equated to them, and 50 thousand to rear workers

- Putin said.

According to the Pension Fund of Russia, as of April 1, 2019, 1,28 million disabled and veterans of the Great Patriotic War were living in Russia. Of these, disabled people, participants in the war - 75 thousand. 495 people. Leningrad-blockers - 96 thousand people, former minor prisoners of fascism - 104 thousand people, widows of invalids and war veterans - 240 thousand, rear workers - 762 thousand people.

Earlier, the president declared 2020 the Year of Remembrance and Glory in honor of the 75th anniversary of victory in the Great Patriotic War.
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  1. rich 18 January 2020 17: 33 New
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    A lump-sum payment to the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War to war veterans will amount to 75 thousand rubles, and to home front workers - 50 thousand rubles
    . Given how many of them are left - this is a drop in the ocean
    1. Kleber 18 January 2020 17: 38 New
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      Yes, in such matters it is generally necessary to individually approach. Someone to buy an apartment, someone to make repairs, someone to pay for good treatment, etc., but we all have one basket.
      1. loki565 18 January 2020 17: 51 New
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        Money solves all these problems, extra intermediaries - extra problems
        1. Shurik70 18 January 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: loki565
          extra intermediaries - extra problems

          That's right.
          If you start an individual approach, whoever is more, who is less - 90% will be offended, and most of the middlemen will plunder.
          Better evenly, in money. And there, let the veterans already decide for themselves what grandchildren should give or treatment to themselves.
          1. krot 18 January 2020 19: 33 New
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            Good and right decision! 75 thousand is both money and attention at the same time! And every year by May 9, we always honor veterans! And whoever says to you that there is little money, that a drop in the ocean is any good and constructive decision is just an excuse to crap everything! It’s good that we have such a minority! smile
            1. Xnumx vis 18 January 2020 19: 39 New
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              Quote: krot
              And whoever says to you that there is little money, that a drop in the ocean is any good and constructive decision is just an excuse to crap everything!

              They will give money to war veterans ... Bad! will not give -bad! They will now find a million reasons why this is bad and will think how to take this money from old and weak old people ....
              1. Zoldat_A 18 January 2020 23: 04 New
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                Quote: 30 vis
                They will now find a million reasons why this is bad and will think how to take this money from old and weak old people ....

                As one of the comedians said -
                When the question arises - who should be robbed - rich or poor, the authorities unequivocally decide that they are poor. There are much more of them ...

                Sad such humor ...
            2. Tank hard 18 January 2020 20: 01 New
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              Quote: krot
              Good and right decision! 75 thousand is both money and attention at the same time! And every year by May 9, we always honor veterans! And whoever says to you that there is little money, that a drop in the ocean is any good and constructive decision is just an excuse to crap everything! It’s good that we have such a minority!

              And how many survivors of those veterans? My grandfather, born in 1913, died in 2001, he was 88 years old then ( Now it would be 107 years) Those who stayed should not need anything at all, and they all decide to give them 10000, then 75000 ...
              1. ammunition 18 January 2020 20: 14 New
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                And how many survivors of those veterans?


                Those who fought in the Patriotic War, there are very few left. However equated to them with half a million. these are invalids of military conflicts. Disabled army injured or injured. And some others.
                So I understand that this order will be extended to equated. According to the law. Not so little man will turn out.
                1. Tank hard 18 January 2020 20: 15 New
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                  Quote: ammunition
                  very little left

                  IMHO, almost none at all. hi
                  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 18 January 2020 21: 12 New
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                    There were still those who went to the front as boys. Like a 92-year-old Yuri Velichko living in Kazan. “People often ask how to bury me. You know, I don’t need any rituals. I’m already used to slapping you, shaking your legs, throwing them in a greatcoat into a mass grave, burying it with earth - and fine, ”Yuri Alexandrovich throws at last. - Veterans are people who walked and laid down their lives in one minute. He stepped out of the trench, crawled out behind the parapet, plop - and he was ready. One minute. Every front-line soldier is a person who risked his life every minute, every second. So I survived, I am a happy person. I got lucky. And many remained there. ”
                    More information on BUSINESS Online: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/423763
                2. Zoldat_A 18 January 2020 23: 35 New
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                  Quote: ammunition
                  Those who fought in the Patriotic War, there are very few left. However equated to them ...

                  Yes, in any war like that. Someone is fighting, someone is bulling ... To whom is war and to whom is mother dear?

                  I was still a kid, one “veteran” lived in our house. There were orders of medals - like Dear Leonid Ilyich in the best years of senility, there was no left foot for the most "hello", on May 9 he always sat on a bench drunk in a stump at the orders, he appeared before us at school - everything is as it should be. He died in the first half of the 80s from cirrhosis of the liver.
                  In the mid-90s, my father and I went into conversation about the war, about medal orders ... I remembered him about the "hero-uncle Zhenya". My father told me, already an adult, what the "hero-uncle Zhenya" himself told the peasants about himself in a yard in a drunken case.
                  Throughout the war, he was a clerk at some huge headquarters, he didn’t approach the front line closer than 100 kilometers and when, after a major operation with front-line suitcases, they brought award sheets .... Well, you understand ... I asked: "And the leg ?! " And this they celebrated the Victory, put on the rails preserved somewhere the surviving remains of the tram, "harnessed" it to the tank and arranged pokatushki for the joys. Well, he fell under that tram because of great sobriety ...

                  Here is such a "veteran".

                  My grandfather, a tanker who passed the blockade and the Kursk Bulge, burned in the tank, cut by fragments, died in 1979.
                  My great-grandfather-sapper who crossed the Dnieper and the Vistula - in 1951. Also not from old age.

                  And finally, another "veteran" -
                  In February 2014, the main military investigative department of the Investigative Committee of Russia decided to terminate the investigation in relation to A. Serdyukov, since he was under an amnesty for the 20th anniversary of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, being recognized as a "defender of the fatherland", the chief military prosecutor's office confirmed the validity of such a decision

                  75 thousand, of course, A.E. they won’t give it, but they defused the "defender of the Fatherland", the "war veteran 08.08.08" from the court, and made it possible to further harm the Fatherland - it’s already good ...
                3. your1970 19 January 2020 00: 17 New
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                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Quote: ammunition
                  very little left

                  IMHO, almost none at all. hi
                  Quote: ammunition
                  However equated to them with half a million. these are invalids of military conflicts. Disabled army injured or injured. And some others.
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                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  And how many survivors of those veterans?

                  Quote: Rich
                  Given how many of them are left - this is a drop in the ocean

                  all who wrote, you read the article ???? !!!!!!!!!!! There it is written in Russian !!!
                  "in total, as of April 1, 2019, Russia lived 1,28 million invalids and veterans of World War II."!!!!
              2. Kazbek 19 January 2020 17: 04 New
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                Well, that is, bad again? Poster, picket? Not?
        2. figwam 18 January 2020 18: 57 New
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          In general, no money can measure what they gave us.
        3. cherkas.oe 18 January 2020 20: 58 New
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          Quote: loki565
          Money solves all these problems.

          I beg you, 75000r. money? To pay for utilities for the year is not enough.
          1. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 03: 49 New
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            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Quote: loki565
            Money solves all these problems.

            I beg you, 75000r. money? To pay for utilities for the year is not enough.

            do you even know the benefits of these categories of citizens ????
      2. SRC P-15 18 January 2020 17: 52 New
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        Quote: Kleber
        Yes, in such matters it is generally necessary to individually approach. Someone to buy an apartment, someone to make repairs, someone to pay for good treatment, etc., but we all have one basket.

        Yes, this money will go 100% to the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of war veterans and disabled people. How old are they now, these veterans? They, especially war invalids, receive a good pension, if my memory serves me, even two. This money would be about 20 years ago, when they were still full of energy and could buy something or improve their health on it. And now they are already under 100 years old, where can they go to rest, and to be treated too? I do not envy them at all, because my father himself was an invalid of the war and I know his sleepless nights from the pain in a leg that does not exist.
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          1. Kazbek 19 January 2020 17: 11 New
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            How did you get these snot !!! Shove the "evil Puten" into any topic, write about Sechin’s salary, and that’s it - the profit is guaranteed! A bunch of likes from the same, tears of emotion and "righteous anger!
            And yes! Necessarily stupid demotivator is obligatory!
    2. Bacha 18 January 2020 18: 06 New
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      . Given how many of them are left - this is a drop in the ocean

      Well, they could have paid 750 each. Chubais was yelling that the money is full.
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      2. private person 18 January 2020 18: 43 New
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        Well, they could have paid 750 each.

        Even if the veteran went to war in 45g. now he is at least 93. He does not need money at this age, but attention and care. And this money is a sin to conceal an extra reason to sow discord among relatives (to whom how much).
        1. cherkas.oe 18 January 2020 21: 13 New
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          another reason to sow discord among relatives (how many to whom).

          What is the contention? Whoever keeps the veteran takes care of him with whom he lives, the veteran will give the money back to him. So among normal people instituted. My parents, veterans of the Second World War, lived out their lives with the youngest daughter - my sister, all the "gadgets" to her, without any sorting, were three of us from my parents, who did not squeak, neither about the inheritance, nor about everything else. I’m lying, I took the rewards, as it should be - to keep the rewards to the kind of reward.
        2. Berkut154 18 January 2020 22: 02 New
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          God forbid if the relatives are decent .... but the crime has been on the alert! And now they will jump around the apartments about gas and double-glazed windows ........
          1. Zoldat_A 18 January 2020 23: 56 New
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            Quote: Berkut154
            but the crime has been on the alert! And now they will jump around the apartments about gas and double-glazed windows ...

            To our village two years ago we arrived in two cars such "compassionate". Given the status of the village and the pensioners living in it, they did not sell double-glazed windows or gas leak detectors, but super-duper expensive water filters and devices that cure everything and everything. In total, about 180 thousand.

            Mom was already standing, listening to them. It's good that I arrived on time from work. He drove them to the barrier with an Alabai on a leash in one hand and with a “Saiga” in the other. He said that if I still see them, first everyone will have a pool, and then Alabai will chop them into pieces, so that it would be more convenient to dig in a nearby small forest.
            No longer appeared.
    3. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 08 New
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      Quote: Rich
      Given how many of them are left - this is a drop in the ocean

      For me, there are not many 750 thousand. Despite the fact that the state is obliged to give them apartments, cars, free medical care in the best clinics in the world, and a decent pension in the amount of much more than deputies and governors.
      And the most bitter thing is that the state can do it, but someone up there decides that it will do.
      1. Mcar 18 January 2020 18: 39 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        For me, there are not many 750 thousand.

        Since there are only a million or more left of veterans, the state could well have taken them for full support. Up to caviar for the holiday with cognac! And the necessary things - food, shelter, treatment, etc. certainly would not be impoverished.

        The sum of 75 to the 75th anniversary speaks of PR. And what is not TR 77? Or 74?
        1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 41 New
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          Quote: McAr
          The sum of 75 to the 75th anniversary speaks of PR. And what is not TR 77? Or 74?

          Puppy joy for fools to shout -Hooray, Putin!
          Why not 75 million? They steal much more than these nonhumans. Ugh.
          1. krot 18 January 2020 19: 45 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            Puppy joy for fools to shout -Hooray, Putin!

            You personally have a simple question - who would be the best president of Russia now in your opinion? Or do you only engage in demagogy, but spit saliva? smile
            For me, there are not many 750 thousand. Despite the fact that the state is obliged to give them apartments, cars, free medical care in the best clinics in the world, and a decent pension in the amount of much more than deputies and governors.

            Do you want to send them to the moon? Or immortality? What nonsense, the best cars need veterans .. Ferrari or what?
            Attention and respect, and a decent life without poverty! All that our old people need! I know not by hearsay. And in the clinics of the world, they are unlikely to survive the flight ..
            Old people will be happy with this money! Let them give grandchildren something. They will not diminish from this joy.
            It seems like half of the commentators will die soon from envy smile
            1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 20: 01 New
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              Quote: krot
              You personally have a simple question - who would be the best president of Russia now in your opinion?

              One who did not defend the will of the elites. Or do you want to tell me that GDP is directly the people's president?
              Quote: krot
              Or immortality?

              And even immortality. So what?
              Quote: krot
              Attention and respect, and a decent life without poverty!

              Do all veterans have this? Or do we honor them post factum when they are no longer alive?
              Quote: krot
              And in the clinics of the world, they are unlikely to survive the flight ..

              But what, our clinics do nothing at all? Are there some ignoramuses who are lopsided?
              Quote: krot
              Old people will be happy with this money!

              They will ... because our state, or rather the steering, has taught everyone that if it flies from the shoulder of the nobleman, then - Hurray to you, our chief!
              I’ll ask you a question, how much was stolen from the country's budget in the period 91-2019?
              So if they steal it this way, it means there is where ... so why didn’t you find from this pile a small share of funds to ensure worthy old age for veterans, do not tell?
              1. krot 18 January 2020 20: 18 New
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                One who did not defend the will of the elites. Or do you want to tell me that GDP is directly the people's president?

                There was a simple question, but I did not receive an answer from you. Who would be the best president? Or do you not know this?))) But he is! laughing (as in the movie Dembel ..)
                And even immortality. So what?
                Yes you are fantastic! They would say so right away, I would not waste time on you ..
                Do all veterans have this? Or do we honor them post factum when they are no longer alive?

                Start with yourself, do good to people and life will change)
                But what, our clinics do nothing at all? Are there some ignoramuses who are lopsided?
                These were your words, to send veterans to the best clinics in the world .. They will not be able to withstand the usual flight to Moscow.
                1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 20: 20 New
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                  Quote: krot
                  There was a simple question, but I did not receive an answer from you. Or do you not know this?))) But he is! (as in the movie Dembel ..)

                  Enlighten the dark, who is this benefactor?
                  1. krot 18 January 2020 20: 34 New
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                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Enlighten the dark, who is this benefactor?

                    Yes, dark or light, it's not for me to decide. Only now you don’t seem to be leading anyone through the veil of malice, since you can’t answer anything intelligible .. Who is your president. You have nothing to offer at all. Empty chatter alone. Conversation over seems like hi
                    1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 20: 36 New
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                      Quote: krot
                      Yes, dark or light, it's not for me to decide. Only now you don’t seem to be leading anyone through the veil of anger, since you can’t answer anything intelligible .. Who is your president. You have nothing to offer at all. Empty chatter alone. Conversation over seems like

                      That's it, because you are not even able to answer your question. Only let the bubbles sit. And there’s nothing to do with malice. I left that age to be angry with an idiot.
                      1. krot 18 January 2020 20: 40 New
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                        That's it, because you are not even able to answer your question. Only let the bubbles sit. And there’s nothing to do with malice. I left that age to be angry with an idiot.

                        But it looks like a kindergarten ..)) I asked the question, but you demand the answer from me))
                      2. NEXUS 18 January 2020 20: 41 New
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                        Quote: krot
                        But it looks like a kindergarten ..)) I asked the question, but you demand the answer from me))

                        Young man, you yourself said that for you the question is simple and accordingly you know the answer to it ... so enlighten, and do not sit, pout your lips. You are doing kindergarten here.
                        At the same time, with those with whom you are discussing, you also sculpt cons))) I do not care about the cons, young man. It won’t add to your mind, but it makes me hot and cold.
                      3. krot 18 January 2020 20: 48 New
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                        Young man, you yourself said

                        You are so confident in your words that I already became a young man))) Cons? )) Apparently I have minuses, too, I myself sculpt on yours?))
                        You don’t even have a clear idea who would be our best president. So any power to hait is a pleasure. And this also doesn’t add any mind smile
                        I've looked, you have thousands of comments. You live like on the site)) 26,5 thousand for 6 years, it's 12 per day, even seven days a week! tin) Would advise better to deal with the matter, rather than waging a war of wars. Arivederchi, uncle laughing
            2. victor50 19 January 2020 15: 57 New
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              Quote: krot
              There was a simple question, but I did not receive an answer from you. Who would be the best president? Or do you not know this?))) But he is! (as in the movie Dembel ..)

              How did you get this question !? Like - cool argument! Answer: Yes, thousands among the male population of the country, dozens of women, many people present at the military academy, many of your colleagues and neighbors. And if one of them became president, you would also applaud him, I have no doubt. And again: did you know a lot about GDP before the EBN put it forward?
              1. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 16: 02 New
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                Answer: Yes, thousands among the male population of the country, dozens of women, a lot of people present at HE, many of your colleagues and neighbors

                Tell me, what do you think: what skills and connections it is necessary to possess in order to hold out at least a day as President of the Russian Federation?

                Thank you yes
                1. victor50 19 January 2020 17: 05 New
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                  Tell me, what do you think: what skills, abilities and connections do you need to have in order to at least stay on the post of President of the Russian Federation?

                  That's about communication - I absolutely agree. The rest ... But what else did he have before that? Well, then let's name the candidate - Beglov. In St. Petersburg, his fame is greater than that of the GDP at the time. And the post is higher, which implies more skills. Well, the connection! With himself ... And so on ... laughing
                  1. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 17: 16 New
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                    Quote: victor50
                    That's about communication - I absolutely agree

                    Well, glory ... work.

                    Quote: victor50
                    The rest ...

                    It seemed to me that I asked you to answer the question wink
                  2. victor50 19 January 2020 17: 48 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    It seemed to me that I asked you to answer the question

                    And why doesn’t this answer suit you: “Well, then let’s name the candidate - Beglov. In St. Petersburg he has more fame than the GDP at one time. And the post is higher, which implies more skills. Well, connections! With yourself. ..And so on..."? Or do you need to indicate the skills and abilities of Putin that the Begles do not have, or rather, that Putin had before, and does not have the Begles? I am also glad that I gave you a reason to once again shine with traditional wit, thank God - it was polite and polite! hi
                  3. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 17: 54 New
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                    And what this answer doesn’t suit you with: “Well, then let’s name the candidate - Beglov. In St. Petersburg he has more fame than the GDP at one time. And the post is higher, which implies more skills

                    Nothing. For the lack of an answer to the original question.

                    However, some of the nominations you proposed are eliminated even with such an “answer”.

                    And if we recall that the candidate (real candidate) for the presidency is always a kind of compromise between the power "elites" - everything just becomes here. Okay. Clear. Further it is already uninteresting hi
                  4. victor50 19 January 2020 18: 00 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Okay. Clear. Further it is already uninteresting

                    Me too! Mutually! hi
          2. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 17: 45 New
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: victor50
            Answer: Yes, thousands among the male population of the country, dozens of women, a lot of people present at HE, many of your colleagues and neighbors

            Tell me, what do you think: what skills and connections it is necessary to possess in order to hold out at least a day as President of the Russian Federation?

            Thank you yes

            honestly, looking at the alternative reality here in the comments, you won’t understand whether they troll in this way or seriously write all this !!! request what
        2. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 17: 41 New
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          Yes, thousands among the male population of the country, dozens of women, a lot of people present at the HE, many of your colleagues and neighbors.

          what The approach, of course, is enchanting !!! wassat presidential candidates especially have fun with in !!! good lol
    4. Piramidon 19 January 2020 00: 11 New
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      One who did not defend the will of the elites.

      Specifically, who? Surname. Or you can only verbally and write slogans - "you need this, you need this", and what exactly, and how ... request
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          1. Fan-fan 19 January 2020 09: 01 New
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            140 million and Putin is the smartest? Artful, cunning yes, but not the smartest. And if you want a surname, here: Grudin has at least management experience, watch a video about him, which state farm he created, look at the houses, parks and a school that he built for people, I would really like it to be like in his state farm it would be all over Russia.
            1. Kazbek 19 January 2020 17: 25 New
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              Good rave !!! Which, on, sternum ??? What state farm did he create? Leave it to yourself the chairman of the house committee!
    5. Kazbek 19 January 2020 17: 21 New
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      I’ll ask you a counter question: how much was stolen from the budget from 1867 to 1917? AND?
  2. Tank hard 18 January 2020 20: 13 New
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    Attention and respect, and a decent life without poverty!

    How old are those real veteransif my grandfather died in 2001, at the age of 88 and was born in 1913, given their injuries and illnesses?
    1. krot 18 January 2020 20: 20 New
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      How old are those real veterans if my grandfather died in 2001, at the age of 88 and was born in 1913, given their injuries and illnesses?

      I think those who went to the front are young. Yes, the sons of the regiment, of which there were many. smile
      1. Tank hard 18 January 2020 20: 26 New
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        I think those who went to the front are young. Yes, the sons of the regiment, of which there were many

        The youngest people who went to the front in 1941 were 18-year-old citizens born in 1923, they should now be 97 years old, it must be understood that they did not send the young fighter into battle immediately without training, apparently the sons of the regiment remained, how many of them were? ... request
        1. krot 18 January 2020 20: 36 New
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          apparently the sons of the regiment remained, how many of them?

          I think many young people fought with the Fritz. Many hid their age in order to be called up ... Then there were no computers. "Lost" passport, and business ..
          1. Tank hard 18 January 2020 20: 40 New
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            I think many young people fought with the Fritz. Many hid their age in order to be called.

            I repeat, there were practically no more fighting at the fronts, is it really difficult to make sure that they do not need anything? And this action, although it does not hinder the veterans, but it painfully looks like a PR move ... request
            1. Zoldat_A 19 January 2020 03: 57 New
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              Quote: Tank Hard
              there were practically no more who fought on the fronts, is it really difficult to make sure that they do not need anything?

              Less and less.
              Recently I got one photo. If I could cry, I would cry ...

              I remembered my grandfather tanker.
              And at the same time my great-grandfather-sapper, father-paratrooper ...
              soldier
            2. krot 20 January 2020 10: 44 New
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              But this action, although it does not hinder the veterans, but it painfully looks like a PR move ... request

              I think for a million and a few people who fought and were equated with WWII veterans, this move does not seem like PR! Yes, and millions more veterans of labor, which will receive 50 thousand.
      2. Servisinzhener 18 January 2020 20: 52 New
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        The youngest people who went to the front in 1941 were 18 year old citizens born in 1923, they should now be 97 years old
        In 45, he was also drafted into the army. They are 92-93. Plus equated to them. Those who stood at the machines from 12-14 years. But they are also deeply over 80. That's where about a million people are recruited from here.
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          In 45, he was also drafted into the army. They are 92-93. Plus equated to them.

          Of course, but those who really fought are somewhat different, however, there are almost none left, and I wrote everything else earlier. hi
          1. Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 21: 18 New
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            but really fought it is a little different

            Exactly. I had a neighbor (a golden man), but in the 45th she was 17. And she did not fight anywhere. But according to the documents a veteran. With all due respect to the neighbor, it is not right to equate the entire military generation with veterans. My grandfather did not fight, he did not come home from the UVZ plant for weeks. Really lived at the machine. This is a huge work requiring titanic efforts, but it is not comparable with the work of people on the front lines.
            In my opinion, it was not worth uniting the workers of the rear, and the participants in the hostilities. Benefits to all, but without equating to veterans in the letter of the name. hi
          2. Andrew77 19 January 2020 11: 33 New
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            And you are mistaken - today there are officially categories of "Veteran" and "Participant" of the war. Home front workers today have Veteran certificates. And the war veterans are the "Participant". Here our bureaucratic verbiage rummaged ... And our memory - as in the USSR front-line soldiers were called "veterans", and rear workers were called so. My father fought (died in 2006) and had a Participant ID. And my mother (alive, glory ...) dug something there in 41-42 near Moscow, has a Veteran certificate.
          3. Ingvar 72 19 January 2020 11: 46 New
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            Today officially there are categories of "Veteran" and "Participant" of the war.

            The categories of war veteran and rear worker were generalized into the general name of a war veteran. request
          4. Andrew77 31 January 2020 13: 12 New
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            The categories of war veteran and rear worker were generalized into the general name of a war veteran. request

            Once again, the front-line soldier (participant in the hostilities) today has the certificate "Member of the war." And the home front worker is the Veteran certificate. These are different forms of certificates, benefits, etc. What you wrote is a little incomprehensible ...
  • Andrew77 19 January 2020 11: 28 New
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    The youngest call, partially to the front, was born in 1927. Today they are 93 years old. Younger may be the "sons of the regiments," as mentioned above. Statement "it’s necessary to understand that without preparation the young fighter wasn’t sent to the battle " very controversial, refers to the second half of the war. My father, born in 1925, at 41 without training fell into the partisans, and at 43, not yet reaching the age of 18, after the front line went into the army. And a month later he was already wounded on the front line.
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      The youngest call partially hit the front - 1927 year of birth. Today they are 93 years old. Younger may be the "sons of the regiments," as mentioned above. The statement "one must understand that without preparing the young fighter at once was not sent to battle" is very controversial, refers to the second half of the war. My father, born in 1925, at 41 without training fell into the partisans, and at 43, not yet reaching the age of 18, after the front line went into the army. And a month later he was already wounded on the front line.

      Listen, there were the final exceptions, but on the whole they could not call the citizens under the age of 18 in 1941, the partisans were not a “field army”. And as if, they could not call in 1941 citizens of 1927, they were 14 years old at that time. When you write such information, then specify who, what year and when they called ... I will not talk about exceptions, they, as usual, confirm the rule.
      Quote: Andrew77
      My father, born in 1925 at 41, got into partisans without preparation

      They couldn’t call a 16-year-old in the military enlistment office (if he didn’t hide his age), namely, he was so much in 1941, and military enlistment offices didn’t call for partisans, it was basically a voluntary expression of the will of citizens in the occupied territory.
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        And as if, they could not call in 1941 citizens of 1927, they were 14 years old at that time.

        Man means that the 45th was called.
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        Man means that the 45th was called.

        hi Vladimir, I understand, and therefore wrote this:
        When you write such information, then specify who, what year and when they called.
    2. Andrew77 31 January 2020 13: 18 New
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      Read more carefully -
      1. Last year of birth, partly in the war, 1927. They were called up in 1945.
      2. My father was drafted into the Red Army in March 1943. Date of birth - 07.04.1925/18/XNUMX. That is, at the time of the call he was not XNUMX years old.
      3. Naturally, he did not get into the partisans by conscription, because on the territory occupied by the Germans, military enlistment offices did not work in 1941. By the way, if you are interested, then in the so-called "partisan territories" - in Ukraine and Belarus, the leaders of the partisan units created their military commissariats, but this was later, at the end of 42 years ...
  • Zoldat_A 19 January 2020 00: 03 New
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    What nonsense, the best cars need veterans .. Ferrari or what?

    I remember about 10 or 15 years ago cars were already handed out. Solemnly, with mayors-governors-orchestras ... Not Ferrari, true, but still. It’s unknown by what principle 50 people were selected from all over the region, but I haven’t seen anything on the road of an 80 or 85-year-old veteran behind the wheel. And grandchildren-great-grandchildren are obliged to take care of them and to take them to where and when necessary even without prize cars. Oh, grandchildren, great-grandchildren are not for grandfather's merits, but it’s not difficult to earn money on a car now.
  • Xnumx vis 18 January 2020 19: 50 New
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    I, just didn’t understand .. Suggest not to give 75 thousand to war veterans ??? And if it was proposed and singled out by Zyuganov on behalf of the Communist Party ?? For me, anyway, who allocated these funds ... They remember the main thing .. I am happy with every movement towards improving people's lives ... They gave maternity capital for the first child .. Very good !! They increased mat capital for the second child perfectly! I agree that more funds should be directed to raising the standard of living of people! I want this with all my heart. But it’s not worth faulting any improvements ... We are the very people.
    1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 20: 01 New
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      But to blame for any improvements is not worth it ...

      I don’t hay, I’m sick of the hypocrisy of the authorities. These are different things.
      1. Misha Honest 18 January 2020 23: 02 New
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        I don’t hay, I’m sick of the hypocrisy of the authorities. These are different things.

        Yes, we all go crazy ... request
    2. Berkut154 18 January 2020 22: 06 New
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      Do not count other people's money! There will be a war you will have a chance to repeat the feat of grandfathers !!! And then your merits will be counted as it should, there you will be indignant !!!!
      1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 22: 26 New
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        Do not count other people's money! There will be a war you will have a chance to repeat the feat of grandfathers !!! And then your merits will be counted as it should, there you will be indignant !!!!

        Does it seem to you that I consider other people's money? So go rinse your face and don’t sculpt me what you think here. I’m talking about how hypocritical our leaders are, giving grains of what they deserve, posing as all for helping veterans .
        And dear, you are so eager to fight? What kind of nonsense are you writing here?
        After 91 years, even the day our veterans lived as worthy of the right of the victors to live? Tell me more about how power at all levels thinks and helps veterans. Just do not tell me here about handouts and free meals.
        1. your1970 19 January 2020 00: 40 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          I’m talking about how hypocritical our leaders are, giving little grains of what they deserve, giving it all for helping veterans.

          Quote: NEXUS
          After 91 years, even the day our veterans lived as worthy of the right of the victors to live?
          -A to 1991 means they lived as worthy winners ???? !!
          Then give out a military secret - why is it suddenly NOW veterans live in huts / huts? Was the USSR concerned about veterans ... or not always? Or did these veterans live all their lives in these huts / huts ???
          Why did veterans of cars give it now for free-and under the USSR there was no money for that? But then, these machines were more necessary for people at times ....
          Why did the order bearers have more pensions - and did the "ordinary ordinary infantry Vanyam" pay the usual pension without any surcharges in the USSR until the 80s?
          Why did the treatment become more or less oriented for veterans only after the 80s - and before that even the line in the hospital was general (well, except for the GSS ...)

          You just count in what year veterans born in 1890 retired - and there were a lot of them too ...

          The USSR took care of the veterans ... yeah ... just like in Russia now - in words ...
          1. SRC P-15 19 January 2020 09: 11 New
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            Why did veterans of cars give it now for free - and during the USSR there was no money for that? But then, these machines were more necessary for people at times.

            Under the USSR, cars gave war invalids - at that time there were a lot of them. Even the USSR could not physically give cars to all veterans. Depending on the severity of the wound - one motorized wheelchair, the other "Cossack". My father got the first "Cossack" in the late 60s (maybe a little later). after ten years (or so), he handed over this car and received a new one. So he changed three or four cars, I don’t remember exactly. I only know that the last car was left to the family and it could be freely sold.
          2. AU Ivanov. 19 January 2020 09: 54 New
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            Grandfather and grandmother: grandfather - a pilot, went through the whole war, grandmother - a doctor, the whole blockade in the hospital. Order bearers. They lived in a communal apartment all their lives, until the 60th anniversary of the Victory they were given an apartment.
        2. Warrior05 19 January 2020 01: 18 New
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          And before 91 they went straight to the cheese !!
          Have you read the article? Or just unhappy with the authorities?
          We decided to increase the payment, what's wrong with that?
          Veterans are not offended by the attention .... they themselves need to pay more attention.
  • Kazbek 19 January 2020 17: 16 New
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    Why not 75 billion? Dollars! USA!!!
  • New Year day 18 January 2020 19: 39 New
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    Up to caviar for the holiday with cognac!

    Not long enough
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: McAr
      Up to caviar for the holiday with cognac!

      Not long enough

      Brandy and caviar are especially relevant for sick old people. Like Kaloshi to an airplane! ... Sanatorium treatment in the best medical complexes in Russia, yes!
  • Berkut154 18 January 2020 22: 04 New
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    State brandy high-quality veterans every day should bring in their apartments !!! Moreover, officials should do this crawling on their knees !!!
  • private person 18 January 2020 18: 47 New
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    Despite the fact that the state is obliged to give them apartments, cars, free medical care in the best clinics in the world, and a decent pension in a much larger amount

    Who are you talking about now? What kind of cars? To whom? At 90 years behind the wheel? They need attention and not make them a source of income for relatives.
    1. Fan-fan 19 January 2020 09: 14 New
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      At 90 years behind the wheel?

      And the law in Russia does not prohibit driving a car at this age. Or are you against the laws?
      Each elderly person decides how long he can drive a car, and in a pinch, a grandson or a son or daughter can carry a veteran.
  • cherkas.oe 18 January 2020 21: 24 New
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    And what's the worst

    The most bitter thing is that you have as many minuses for your comment as there are pluses. And this means that there are a lot of goons and just enemies of the country on the site.
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    Still for 100 years of victory offered 100 thousand
    1. Golovan Jack 18 January 2020 18: 32 New
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      Quote: Clever man
      Clever man (Vasya)

      Nick change negative
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        1. Golovan Jack 18 January 2020 18: 51 New
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          Igor, I’m done with you today. You are not interesting for me. Adieu yes
          1. Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 18: 52 New
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Adieu

            And stupidly troll on. In principle, it is foolish to expect another from you. request
      2. smart ass 18 January 2020 19: 54 New
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        Che did not understand a joke?
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      Quote: Clever man
      Still for 100 years of victory offered 100 thousand

      don't give!
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    1. Aerodrome 18 January 2020 18: 22 New
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      Putin hurried, it was necessary in 20 years, to promise 10 million at once.
      1. Sling cutter 18 January 2020 18: 30 New
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        Quote: Aerodrome
        Airfield (Airfield)

        Bro! this news didn’t just infuriate me ..... I don’t have anyone else who could remember that war except my father for 80 years .... with a pension of 12 tyrov for 50 years of work experience. And Dad said he would strangle .. what are we for the people, then for such a strange one, if we allow ourselves to be mocked so much ??? !!!
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          this news didn’t just infuriate me

          what you and others like you all the news from / about RYZHYMA enrage !! wassat lol
          1. Fan-fan 19 January 2020 09: 17 New
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            We just see how the government nobles and officials live in comparison with the common people.
            1. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 17: 35 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              We just see how the state nobles and officials live.

              what which of them do you personally live with ??? lol
    2. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 29 New
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      This is a PR mockery, if you evaluate the scale of the plunder of the country!

      This PR, which many people are very happy about, like, the state does not forget. And let these wise men go to the hospital and ask how much now the medicine or the contents in the clinic ... is this alms enough that thanks to whom we are even alive, including the main helmsman? His father fought with him, and I don’t know how conscience allows him to score at all for veterans.
  • New Year day 18 January 2020 19: 36 New
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    Given how many are left

    There will be "children of Lieutenant Schmidt", I am sure.
    As in the case of juvenile prisoners of concentration camps and benefits from Germany
  • Petr1 18 January 2020 20: 45 New
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    Yes with their money. pensions to all pensioners can be made 75. Moreover, every month.
  • cherkas.oe 18 January 2020 21: 34 New
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    Quote: Rich
    Given how many are left

    We will celebrate the next anniversary of Victory without them at all. And it will be excruciatingly bitter that they now greedy and did not lead them through human beings.
  • Misha Honest 18 January 2020 22: 59 New
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    Given how many of them are left - this is a drop in the ocean

    Hmm ... really. I waited 20 years for GDP until there are almost no veterans ... Not a single censored word on this show is ...
    1. AU Ivanov. 19 January 2020 10: 02 New
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      Why 20? My grandfather's apartment was allocated in 2005 to the 60th anniversary of the Victory. Prior to that, he lived in a communal apartment, neither the scoop nor Yeltsin didn’t bother.
      1. Misha Honest 26 January 2020 17: 16 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Why 20? My grandfather's apartment was allocated in 2005 to the 60th anniversary of the Victory. Prior to that, he lived in a communal apartment, neither the scoop nor Yeltsin didn’t bother.

        And so it gets, "beneficent" approval ....
        1. AU Ivanov. 26 January 2020 17: 17 New
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          On business and approval, what's wrong?
          1. Misha Honest 26 January 2020 17: 24 New
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            It’s a long time to explain, but on the whole, will the Russian army stand against SSHA? Do state structures stand against the US? Will the people stand against the USA?
            -No means no.
            War is no longer in doubt.
            1. AU Ivanov. 26 January 2020 17: 28 New
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              What kind of war? Mattresses were saved even before the DPRK and Iran. Here they have knocked out money from the budget for military spending under the "Russian threat". Business, nothing personal.
              1. Misha Honest 26 January 2020 22: 51 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                What kind of war? Mattresses were saved even before the DPRK and Iran. Here they have knocked out money from the budget for military spending under the "Russian threat". Business, nothing personal.

                North Korea may mobilize 10 million for the war - they have compulsory military service for m and f. In addition, the DPRK is not afraid of nifiga and can give a tough tooth in case of something. And the United States will suffer such losses there - Mama Do not Cry ... About the same thing in Iran.
                But the current Russian Federation is afraid of everything. Especially the oligarchs - for their denyuzhki and kids ...
                1. AU Ivanov. 26 January 2020 23: 03 New
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                  But do our oligarchs make key decisions? Well, except for karaman, Putin's. So they have no accounts and property of the probable adversary, they are under sanctions.
  • martin-159 19 January 2020 07: 41 New
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    And by May, even less will remain.
  • Yves762 18 January 2020 17: 35 New
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    Something for the 70th anniversary of 10 ... was given less ...
    Ahhh.!. Probably 10 times more veterans.?.
    http://www.pfr.kirov.ru/node/1801
    Rude, citizens. Very rude.
    1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 17: 40 New
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      Quote: Yves762
      Something for the 70th anniversary of 10 ... was given less ...
      Ahhh.!. Probably 10 times more veterans.?.

      Are you jealous?
      1. Yves762 18 January 2020 17: 42 New
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        Yes, I rather hurt for those who did not live up to the bounty of the Tsar Father.
        1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 17: 46 New
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          Quote: Yves762
          Yes, I rather hurt for those who did not live up to the bounty of the Tsar Father.

          Better rejoice for those who survived. Those who have not survived do not need anything, including your resentment for them.
          1. Yves762 18 January 2020 17: 54 New
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            Well, with this approach, dear, it would be possible (and not ashamed) and wait until the 80th anniversary ...
            1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 03 New
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              Well, with this approach, dear, it would be possible (and not ashamed) and wait until the 80th anniversary ...

              Yes, so what, right up to the hundredth - so that the anniversary was, yes. Then maybe Putin and relatives of veterans will roll away some money, as the Germans pay to the heirs of the affected Jews for the Holocaust.
              I see in your reasoning a rational kernel. I respect you.
          2. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 12 New
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            Better rejoice for those who survived.

            Why not rejoice because it is not thanks to, but contrary to veterans have survived to these days? With pensions more like alms. With handouts from the state for the fact that we all, including the steering, are alive and well? Do you seriously think that there is something to rejoice about? They deserve at least a pitchfork, yachts, pensions like oligarchs and the best free medical care ... but where is it all? Or do you want to say that they are not worth it? Or maybe the state is not able to create it for them?
            1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 14 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              With pensions more like alms.

              They now have more pensions than my salary. Do not worry about them.
              1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 16 New
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                Quote: Gray Brother
                They now have more pensions than my salary. Do not worry about them.

                And what have you personally done so in life, commensurate with their feat, that your tongue turns to even say that they are in order? You sit on the couch, eat beer, eat sausage, nurse children thanks to whom?
                1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 19 New
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                  Quote: NEXUS
                  And what have you personally done so in life, commensurate with their feat, that your tongue turns to even say that they are in order? You sit on the couch, eat beer, eat sausage, nurse children thanks to whom?

                  Thanks to them.
                  Do you want to show me something for this?
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Why rejoice?

                  Rejoice for them.
                  1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 22 New
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                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    Do you want to show me something for this?

                    Yes, I want for this phrase ...
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    They now have more pensions than my salary. Do not worry about them.

                    What have you done to write this?
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    Rejoice for them.

                    What exactly is it because the veterans are dying like flies in the absence of normal medical care and the state only remembers them by May 9, or maybe for their well-being, which allows them to live comfortably, enjoy the clear sky that they have saved for us all? Why rejoice? This alms in the amount of 75 thousand? Are you serious?
                    1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 29 New
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                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Or maybe for their well-being, which allows them to live comfortably, enjoy the clear sky that they have saved for us all

                      Yes, you can be glad for it.
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      The fact that veterans die like flies in the absence of normal medical care

                      They have exactly the same medical care as mine or you. Who doesn’t give them normal?
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      , rejoice in the clear sky that they have saved for us all

                      Not a bad option. Can.
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      This alms in the amount of 75 thousand? Are you serious?

                      One and a half pensions paid once - what is bad? I am happy for them - they will buy something for their grandchildren or for themselves to go to the end.
                      1. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 35 New
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                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        They have exactly the same medical care as mine or you. Who doesn’t give them normal?

                        That is, all the same, you have enough conscience to compare ... okay. Then the question is, what have you personally done in life that is commensurate with their feat, that you generally compare all this, saying that the medical care is normal? Are you compared with veterans unreasonable child, full of health and stupidity. They are elderly people and most of them are deeply sick due to age, life's troubles and lived in general. Who are you and who are they?
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        One and a half pensions paid once - what is bad?

                        Why not 7 lyam? Or 70 lyam? Are they not worth it? What is 75 thousand in conditions when medicine is not free, when utilities, services, food, etc. are not worth a penny? You don’t understand what I’m talking about? This is not a pension - it is a FOOD!
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                        Guest workers who teach me how to live at home amuse me. There is still such an observer, 2014, yes.

                        Nothing personal, just by the way had to.
                      3. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 45 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Guest workers who teach me how to live at home amuse me.

                        Golovan, I’m the same Russian and Russian citizen as you are. And from your "by the way" for three quarters Nazism stinks. Ugh ..
                      4. Golovan Jack 18 January 2020 18: 47 New
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                        Quote: NEXUS
                        I am the same Russian and Russian citizen like you

                        That Russian is possible, that a citizen is beyond doubt. What is "the same" - and here, sorry, move over negative

                        I’m exactly on the nationality, but according to the impression of your writings - both of you are Gaster. What are you, what is the "Observer".
                      5. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 50 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        That a Russian is perhaps a citizen is beyond doubt. What is "the same" - and here, sorry, move over

                        You would be less scattered about in terms like a guest worker ... you look, and you wouldn’t show a swastika on your forehead. In the USSR there were no Georgians, Armenians, Moldova, etc. ... and the Russian nation was not placed above other nations.
                      6. Golovan Jack 18 January 2020 18: 53 New
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                        Quote: NEXUS
                        In the USSR there were no Georgians, Armenians, Moldova, and so on ... and the Russian nation was not placed above other nations

                        Once again, for those who do not get mail well:

                        - I have a nationality in the drum.
                        - Gaster is not a nationality. These are the features of the mentality.
                        - both with you and with the mentioned Observer - these features are expressed. Bright enough.

                        IMHO.
                      7. NEXUS 18 January 2020 18: 55 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        - Gaster is not a nationality. These are the features of the mentality.

                        He invented it or who suggested it?
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        IMHO.

                        That's it, I have an Opinion Horseradish Challenge. IMHO it happened ...
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                        Quote: NEXUS
                        He invented it or who suggested it?

                        Itself. Do you dislike something? So correct ... if you can laughing

                        Quote: NEXUS
                        That's it-I Have an Opinion Horseradish Challenge

                        Don’t ... dispute who is in the way. Go to the mines ...

                        Sha, buddy. I told you what I wanted - said. What do you say - I know in advance. It’s not interesting to me anymore, excuse me request
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Sha, buddy. I told you what I wanted - said. What do you say - I know in advance. It’s not interesting to me already, sorry

                        That is why I do not touch your comments ... excuse me, they are only a wand and then by strong necessity.
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    - Gaster is not a nationality. These are the features of the mentality.

                    good From the heart.hi
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                3. NEXUS 18 January 2020 19: 10 New
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                  Quote: uncle
                  There were no nations in the USSR. There were peoples. The USSR has not yet reached the nations.

                  Because of this, the Buryats did not become less Buryats, as well as Georgians, Georgians.
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                  IN USSR did not have Georgians, Armenians, Moldova, etc.

                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Because of this, the Buryats did not become less Buryats, as well as Georgians, Georgians.
                  -?????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  So were or were not ??? !!!
                  Or are you yourself confused ????
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              ipa gastrebeiter ... you look and would not appear on the forehead of the swastika.

              actually this word has a definite meaning .. something you old on Nazism pereklinilo !! wassat
    2. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 50 New
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      This is not a pension - it is a FOOD!

      And who are you to determine this - is it care or alms? Who gave you this right, for others to decide?
      Are you a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, a home front worker or who?
      They don’t pay you, when they will pay you - then proudly reject this "CHILD".
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      And who are you to determine this - is it care or alms? Who gave you this right, for others to decide?

      Discard the ways ... they started talking for rights ... they gave me the right to my grandfathers and grandmothers who fought. You go to the clinic and go to the pharmacies and ask how long these pennies are enough and how much.
      Quote: Gray Brother
      They don’t pay you, when they will pay you - then proudly reject this "CHILD".

      That is, the fact that your life and your children have been saved, at the cost of your life, health, etc., is that you appreciate the expert. Well, since your life costs 75 thousand wooden, then the flag is in your hands.
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      Uti ways ... for the rights of talking ... gave me the right to my grandfathers and grandmothers who fought

      Even I doubt that they gave you the right to command their fellow soldiers. Kill the FAQ.
      Quote: NEXUS
      enough of these pennies and how much.

      "Pennies" in Ukraine.
  • AU Ivanov. 19 January 2020 10: 04 New
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    Nothing that in St. Petersburg, all veterans and blockades are attached to the veterans' hospital. With very good medical care.
  • Yves762 18 January 2020 18: 27 New
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    Rejoice for them.

    what
    Older Russians, on average, save 50–100 thousand rubles for funerals, according to a new study by the RANEPA.

    http://www.zagolovki.ru/daytheme/funeral/02Aug2017
    good

    Ps A message with a direct link to RBC something does not climb ... recourse
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    That is yes. Already threw money at the veterans. They are not offended.
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    1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 34 New
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      It offends me that people like you still live !!!

      The offended carry water.
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      It offends me that people like you still live !!!

      so insulting that you can’t eat already? crying
  • Tersky 18 January 2020 17: 45 New
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    Ahhh.!. Probably 10 times more veterans.?.

    https://www.garant.ru/actual/70_letie_pobedy/soc_obespechenie/
    According to the Russian Ministry of Labor, as of January 1, 2015, about 3 million veterans of the Great Patriotic War, home front workers, family members of the deceased (deceased) invalids and participants in the Second World War and war veterans, former minor prisoners of fascism live in the Russian Federation.
    According to statistics, about 300 thousand veterans die every year. Rude of you, very rude ..
    1. Yves762 18 January 2020 17: 49 New
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      As of April 1, they lived in Russia 75 495 World War II veterans. This is stated in the certificate of the Ministry of Labor, which was received by RBC.

      1. Tersky 18 January 2020 17: 53 New
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        Quote: Yves762
        As of April 1, 75 veterans of the Great lived in Russia
        RBC is it ......
        Carefully read the above?
        Quote: Tersky
        World War II veterans, home front workers, family members of the deceased (deceased) invalids and participants of the Second World War and war veterans, former minor prisoners of fascism.

        For they are among those to whom this allowance will be paid.
        1. Yves762 18 January 2020 18: 16 New
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          Well, since it’s not so clear, take these articles:

          Compare with yours.
          Estimate the dynamics.
          And conclude that it would be possible to wait for ischo, but still hold out the handout to a round 100. Perhaps even to the 80th anniversary.
          AND? Well yes: the deadline will end; ratings will not correct ... etc.
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          2. Tersky 18 January 2020 20: 06 New
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            Quote: Yves762
            Well, if it’s not so clear, take these articles: Compare with yours.

            I have given you all these data above, or carelessness, or ignore ..
            Quote: Yves762
            Estimate the dynamics.

            You think up the "dynamics" from 1992 to 2000 ... and do not forget one of the main factors of this group - age. Unfortunately, they are not getting younger.
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      2. Gray brother 18 January 2020 17: 59 New
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        Show / Hide text

        It is only those who were at the front directly. The workers of the rear, etc. are not there.
        1. Altona 18 January 2020 18: 27 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          It is only those who were at the front directly.

          -----------------------------
          What was the last call for what year? This is probably born in 1926 How many of them are left?
          1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 18: 33 New
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            What was the last call for what year?

            I commented on the link above. There was no call to the factory, and those whose father died at the front too.
    2. Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 19: 00 New
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      For 2019, there were 1.200.000 people left. This is all together, with persons equated to a WWII veteran. And directly combatants, i.e. fought, total 74.000 people.
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      1. Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 20: 27 New
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        It is a pity that Ascetic, Duke, Alex TV disappeared. Not biased moderated. Especially sorry for Apollo, he left early in life. If you already punished, then you can argue.
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          It’s a pity that Ascetic, Duke

          Bro! They died .... Duke was 52 years old.
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            Duke was 52 years old.
            Ascetic alive (in my opinion).
  • New Year day 18 January 2020 20: 51 New
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    Something for the 70th anniversary of 10 ... was given less ...

    Everything is simpler: "But you know, I got up today, also thought about it, and while traveling here, a simple, uncomplicated thought occurred to me. We have 75 years of Victory, so we will render - I think it will be justified and people will understand it - help related to this date: we will allocate 75 thousand rubles to veterans of the Great Patriotic War and to all categories equated to them and 50 thousand to the rear workers "Putin said.
    ST. PETERSBURG, Jan 18 - RIA Novosti.
    https://ria.ru/20200118/1563580592.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
  • Old Horseradish 18 January 2020 17: 40 New
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    They robbed the old and old women, stole pensions, now they mock.
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      Quote: Old Horseradish
      They robbed the old and old women, stole pensions, now they mock.

      Indeed, they would have been better left alone, instead of being subjected to such humiliation.
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        3. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 04: 13 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          Quote: Tersky
          Cynicism does not press on the little things?

          Here you can conduct a census of geeks, really.

          what here it’s easier to highlight a couple of normal people, and the rest of it .......... !!! request
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              2. Golovan Jack 18 January 2020 22: 48 New
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                Also - briefly:

                My friend, Maisu, that you just drove away, they spin it ten times a day, and even a sequence of words sometimes disappears. Which, like kakbe, hints at a centralized origin of this maisi. I will disappoint you, probably, but all of what you have stated there is demagogy. Buddy

                Your pearls type:

                Quote: 7,62x54
                The population of the Russian Federation should decrease to 15 million. This is enough to run along the pipe and scare away wolves with sticks

                и

                Quote: 7,62x54
                Russians are oil for the Kremlin. The opinion of oil is that on weekends, that on weekdays no one is interested

                - they say, at a minimum, that you don’t particularly strain your head, but use a kind of “information fast food”.

                Not surprised. Many people use it here. But the trouble is that the "information" is rotten, the smell from it ... is bad.

                That's something like request
      3. NEXUS 18 January 2020 19: 06 New
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        Cynicism does not press on the little things?

        Vitya, does cynicism steer the steering wheel in the cerebellum? You didn’t have veterans in the family and you don’t know how much the medicine, medical care, in-patient care and, ultimately, the funeral cost? Don't you know that ?!
        The bitter truth is that the victors live in comparison with the veterans of the Third Reich as beggars. That is the truth. And tell me friend, isn’t the state capable of giving veterans a decent pension, housing, and medical care for free? Maybe, but for some reason our helmsmen remember veterans on May 9 ....
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          Quote: NEXUS
          Vitya, does cynicism steer the steering wheel in the cerebellum?

          Is he the helmsman? Or think no head?
          Quote: NEXUS
          You didn’t have veterans in the family and you don’t know how much the medicine, medical care, in-patient care and, ultimately, the funeral cost?
          I’m no worse than you, only there is one small nuance, look at the average pension for the indicated category of pensioners in 2019. In addition, there is a full package of social services, and in the event of the death of a WWII veteran, the funeral organizer receives a lump sum payment equal to 35 times the MCI, relevant at the time of the death of a particular veteran. This seems to be nothing. I agree that these people deserve much more and better than what the state offers them, because the price that they paid cannot be estimated with any money. I was outraged by something else, when some 10 and 5 thousand were paid for the celebration of Victory Day, there was deathly silence, when a figure of 75 and 50 was voiced, a bunch of critics were instantly found. Where have you all been before? Why didn’t they write about 10 thousand coffins? Either the coffins have risen in price, or they don’t already know how to more sophisticatedly contrive and spit in what, albeit a little, but positive.
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            Quote: Tersky
            Is he the helmsman? Or think no head?

            Victor, he is a herald of the elites, and this is understandable.
            Quote: Tersky
            I agree that these people deserve much more and better than what the state offers them

            There is a difference between offers and offers. Can't you find no?
            Quote: Tersky
            Where have you all been before? Why didn’t they write about 10 thousand coffins?

            I don’t criticize the size of these payments, I’m talking about the hypocrisy of the ruling circles, which are capable and can make the life of veterans as they deserve, but they pay something the way they bleed. What are these amounts about? You still don’t understand WHAT I HAVE TALKING ABOUT, however, like most people here, judging by the minuses.
        2. Sergej1972 19 January 2020 15: 57 New
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          To the great regret, both in the 70-80s and in the 90s, our veterans had a standard of living that was not comparable to veterans of the Reich.
      4. Andrey Chistyakov 18 January 2020 19: 20 New
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        Quote: Tersky
        Quote: 7,62x54
        Funeral issues

        Cynicism does not press on the little things?

        Sorry I can’t resist. And he has it there ... (rhetorically).
  • Shahno 18 January 2020 17: 41 New
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    Well, honestly. A couple of zeros would be added. And it’s kind of like a piece thrown.
    75000 is a little more than $ 1000. Not modest, no?
    1. Andrey Chistyakov 18 January 2020 19: 22 New
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      Quote: Shahno
      Well, honestly. A couple of zeros would be added. And it’s kind of like a piece thrown.
      75000 is a little more than $ 1000. Not modest, no?

      Under the "democrats" in the 90s, veterans were paid a lot? Well, strain your memory?
  • Altona 18 January 2020 17: 43 New
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    75 thousand is certainly good, but as I understand it, all veterans did not receive a separate apartment promised by the state. Someone got it, and someone not.
    PS By the way, in 1985, veterans were given the Order of the Great Patriotic War of 1 and 2 degrees, to the 40th anniversary of the Victory. Those who had military awards for them were 1st degree, those who had no military awards, they were 2. But almost all veterans of the order received them.
    https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/1587710
    1. Ua3qhp 18 January 2020 18: 27 New
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      It would be better not given. Only the Order was discredited.
      By the way, they were bullshit. The real ones were made of drag metals, and these are not clear from what.
      They are different in mass. I compared it myself. My grandfather had orders of the Patriotic War of I and II degrees and here in 85 they awarded another I degree. They are different.
      1. Avior 18 January 2020 22: 35 New
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        The design is different, but the weight and material are the same
        Grandfather had 1 and 2 degrees, and the Red Star, all front-line
        But in 1985 they gave the order of 2 degrees
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      Grandfather was given an order of 2 degrees
      Moreover, he had front-line orders and medals
  • Observer2014 18 January 2020 17: 44 New
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    Thank you! My great-grandmother as a rear worker. Grandfather as a veteran. Are you leaving ?! We’ll send it via SMS to heaven. Suddenly they will be pleased there. Nothing about Putin’s prompting. Late. Past. In Russia there are so many veterans that there were mono and for example 750 rubles. You can build a city.
  • 75 Sergey 18 January 2020 17: 49 New
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    One less now, his wife and grandfather died in September, 95 years old.
  • Thrifty 18 January 2020 17: 50 New
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    Even so, if only it wouldn’t work out “scammers with a reference to the locality” - in one region they will give 75 thousand rubles, and in another they will say that there is no money, they pay out of their pocket, and they will give 20 thousand each !!!
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Even so, if only it wouldn’t work out “scammers with a reference to the locality” - in one region they will give 75 thousand rubles, and in another they will say that there is no money, they pay out of their pocket, and they will give 20 thousand each !!!

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      Officials today interpret laws very widely. Why did I remember the apartments for veterans, because in the village and in the private sector there were many veterans in houses without communal amenities and still requiring repair. You know, where is the toilet in the yard, water from the well, heating with coal or wood. However, with the "reference to the locality" as you put it, their houses were recognized as completely comfortable and refused to receive comfortable housing.
  • Nikitich 18 January 2020 17: 57 New
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    God save the king!
  • knn54 18 January 2020 17: 57 New
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    Now they’ll heal ...
  • Gardamir 18 January 2020 18: 05 New
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    Peremoga, you give 146% to a rating. As befits a merchant, buys votes, but never organizes a life worthy of veterans and all people.
    1. your1970 19 January 2020 00: 55 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      Peremoga, you give 146% to a rating. As befits a merchant, buys votes, but never organizes a decent life veterans and all people.

      Quote: Altona
      because in the village and in the private sector there were many veterans in houses without communal amenities and still requiring repair. You know where there is a toilet in the yard, water from a well, heating with coal or wood.
      what the USSR for these specificx veterans did? Order given in 1985?
      So people without conveniences lived their whole lives - even under socialism, even under capitalism they ran in the morning for a barn .... and then for water with buckets in a well ....
      1. Gardamir 19 January 2020 08: 36 New
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        Each time has its own values. Father was pleased with this order. And now you want to say that Putin has provided all veterans with amenities?
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          Putin equipped all veterans with amenities?

          You even confirm with your indignant question that the USSR has so many veterans FORGOTTENOtherwise, Putin would not have to supply ALL veterans
          Regarding the order, my grandfather then said - "everybody hanged a tzatsk. They made it from the order (mat)."
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            "all in a row
            My father has a Red Star battle order, so it’s not in a row. And yet, what did Putin do for veterans? 20 kopecks bread?
            1. your1970 19 January 2020 22: 21 New
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              And yet, what did Putin do for veterans?

              The same as the USSR for the street which we called "Veteranskaya" (real veterans and heroes lived through the house there) - NOTHING.
              As there was no asphalt, water supply and sewage systems during the USSR, so now there isn’t ...

              There are no more veterans there either - they died mostly in the 80s

              Z.Y. my grandfather had a medal of courage and that was all - therefore he respected the orders.
              And in 1985, when they were given to EVERYONE (he received war as a disabled person), he was very angry that there was no respect for the order.

              For example, did a neighbor receive for the fact that he served the whole war at the commandant’s office in Samara. Are his merits equal to his grandfather, drafted into the army in May 1941 and who served as art corrector until December 1943 (was blown up by a mine)?
              Grandfather believed that his merits were evaluated in conscience of the war, he deserved it - this is your medal ...
              But the conscience of the distribution in 1985 already somewhere behind in his opinion (obscene)
              1. Gardamir 20 January 2020 05: 35 New
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                Frankly, just hate the Soviet Union. Indeed, now Putin calls the military orders badges, now they give medals for participating in the parade. Finally, no matter how they treat the veterans in the Union, they are now simply obligated to surround them with care, without putting it on merit.
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                  After all, this now Putin calls the military orders badges, now they give medals for participating in the parade.

                  fool you are the word * fairly "did not see me .....
                  In my opinion (and grandfathers, too, I absolutely agreed with him) Kozhedub, for example, was awarded fairly, deservedly, and Brezhnevudali tsatsku(call the award deserved, well, well) "Order of Victory" for the thieves, for the position, for pleasure. Oh, about a bunch of GSSs, even then the people joked about it
  • Lena Petrova 18 January 2020 18: 10 New
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    Do not give - bad. Give - bad. People can’t please, even beat your head against the wall.
    And rightly so, that they give. All this money will go into circulation quickly anyway, with taxes at every stage. No need to spare money to veterans - in the next world they are no longer needed. Neither billionaires nor the poor.
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      Quote: Lena Petrova
      Do not give - bad. Give - bad.

      Yes, not bad Lena. Late in a bit of a catch. Suspiciously long pulled. And they remembered only when it came to understand that the rating was zero. Yes, and money for this was not obtained from their stash - if you calculate 2% VAT, there will be enough for veterans and children for operations instead of charity via SMS from all over the country. hi
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        when it came to understanding that the rating is at zero

        Those. all the former leaders did not pay anything to veterans, starting from Stalin and ending with Yeltsin, solely because they were doing well with a rating?
        Aren't you a hypocrite?
  • Well done 18 January 2020 18: 23 New
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    The cry of the soul - I was riding in a trolleybus, one venerable veteran (I respect, I have 2 grandfathers of a veteran died in 1985) complained that pensions were 47 thousand rubles. he is missing. (!!! ???) I am 42 years old, a veteran of a database in the UK, a disabled person 2 gr., Social benefits (as a veteran) = 3300 rubles, disability pension = 9100. That's what I wanted to ask a WWII veteran - and what you 50 pieces a month ?! Share it! I have children myself, I need it! I grab the minuses, but told the harsh truth.
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      And the most annoying thing is that there are millions of people like me. Someone is lucky, someone is not very. I walk on walkers. Crying in the oath is not prescribed. I took her three times. But you hold on)
  • Old Horseradish 18 January 2020 18: 25 New
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    So rob the grandchildren, granddaughters, great-grandchildren and great-granddaughters of the victorious warriors, this must be tried! To deprive them of their pensions and leave without medication, without medical assistance, so that they die at work. Don't you think this is cynical and hypocritical? Actually, war veterans gave their lives and shed blood, sacrificing themselves for their country and for their children. It is not good to offend the heirs of victory, not good. It will end badly.
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    I can’t understand, they don’t give bad, they give too bad. It seems that you are the very grandchildren and there are those who will get this money. In our country, and so respect and honor for the participants in the war, I do not think that in other countries the same. And I’ll say right away that it’s not necessary to give examples here about veterans in sheds, this is of course regrettable. But one must ask this from the “rulers” of the nineties, who put the country on its knees.
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      Quote: Stalllker
      And I’ll say right away that it’s not necessary to give examples here about veterans in sheds, this is of course regrettable. But one must ask this from the “rulers” of the nineties, who put the country on its knees.

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      That is, how not to? They promised the apartment, so give it, be so kind. These 75 thousand have just been announced and you are already tearing up vests "Ayda, brothers, we will rejoice for grandfathers! Good king!" When they give out everything that is supposed to be, then we will rejoice, but to rejoice for the "good" king is to fire.
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        Where is the joy in my words seen?
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      I can’t understand,
      Are you naive or pretending to be? How do veterans live the rest of the time? Enough for them to pay utilities, buying food? .. What pensions do veterans have?
      1. Gray brother 18 January 2020 19: 44 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Enough for them to pay for housing and communal services, the purchase of food?

        Yes.
        Quote: Gardamir
        What are the pensions of veterans?

        In the region of forty-five thousand rubles, plus or minus.

        Quote: Gardamir
        How do veterans live the rest of the time?

        To whom as health allows.
        1. Gardamir 18 January 2020 19: 59 New
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          In the region of forty-five thousand rubles, plus or minus
          Adequate normal response. My father died in 2001, so I don’t know about veteran pensions, although it seems that they were even on a level even in the 90s.
          I just ask you to understand, it is advisable that veterans are always taken care of, and not just on anniversary dates.
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            Quote: Gardamir
            and not just to anniversary dates.

            And not when the rating has fallen.
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        Now I don’t know what pensions the veterans have, my grandfather had enough. He was injured, apparently what kind of allowance was there and he also worked because he did not want to sit at home. And my post is not about who had what pension, is and will be
      3. Nikolai Grek 19 January 2020 04: 23 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        How do veterans live the rest of the time? Enough for them to pay utilities, buying food? .. What pensions do veterans have?

        what and you without at least approximate knowledge in this area decided to reason here ??? fool also reproach someone ??? am
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      Quote: Stalllker
      But one must ask this from the “rulers” of the nineties, who put the country on its knees.

      and the rulers of the 60s - when the soldiers of 1890-1900 were retired? do not need to ask? or the rulers of the 70s also do not need ??
      Quote: Stalllker
      there is no need to give examples here about veterans in sheds, this is of course regrettable.
      -
      everyone didn’t give a damn ... and by the way, the USSR also had money (like the Russian Federation now) ...
      They lived in barns and died there, at least under socialism, at least under capitalism ...
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    It seems to be not bad, but it only says that the current government is confident in one thing - all the problems, all the discontent of the people can be poured with money.
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      can pour money
      But they do not know how otherwise. Believe to have created the world. where everything is for sale and everything is bought. Now, before the renovation of the Constitution, people buy love.
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        buy folk love.

        Absolutely right ! And after all they will buy - that's what depresses.
      2. Altona 18 January 2020 19: 19 New
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        Now, before the renovation of the Constitution, people buy love.

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        This, hmm, is not a renovation. A constitutional coup, because voiced Wishlist immediately contradict Articles 1, 11 and 16, and smack of appropriation of dictatorial powers.
        1. Gardamir 18 January 2020 19: 36 New
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          This is, hmm, not a renovation
          I agree with you, I just scoff. They do not like Russian.
          A coup !? First, Gorbachev, in violation of the Soviet constitution, held a congress of deputies. Intoxicated by imaginary freedom, the people did not notice how they shook all the foundations. The second moment of the coup, December 1991. When, for the sake of personal power, Boris ruined the Union. and they prove to us that the Union is not Russia. And the third point is October 1993. So today's events are a logical continuation. By the way, today Putin congratulated Yeltsin’s daughter, this message is for those who consider Yeltsin guilty. and Putin, as always, with nothing to do with it. Putin is a loyal successor to the Gorbachev-Yeltsin affair.
          1. Sergej1972 19 January 2020 16: 10 New
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            The Congress of People's Deputies was elected on a completely legal basis, after the relevant amendments were made to the Constitution of the USSR in 1977.
  • ddddd 18 January 2020 18: 34 New
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    I won’t be surprised if another 13% of the tax
    1. Stalllker 19 January 2020 01: 54 New
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      Watching how it will be issued
  • Petrol cutter 18 January 2020 18: 44 New
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    There’s no one to hand out. The real warriors, a hundred years as "on the hill" ... A mummy frontman who bought medals ... For what?
  • Andrey77 18 January 2020 18: 44 New
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    This applies only to WWII veterans? Have you forgotten about local wars?
    1. Stalllker 19 January 2020 01: 55 New
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      This is actually the "Victory Day of the Second World War", who is a participant, that’s money
  • Prisoner 18 January 2020 18: 50 New
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    Is 750 weak? If we take into account how much of any trellis steals from the treasury and the number of surviving veterans, then even 000 is normal. There will be less snickering power bastard.
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      Quote: Captive
      Is 750 weak?

      And so much every month only Mikhal Sergeich, according to the current government, is worthy of receiving.
      1. Prisoner 18 January 2020 20: 18 New
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        Nine grams in the back of the head and at the same time the price of this reptile!
        1. Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 20: 34 New
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          Quote: Captive
          Nine grams in the back of the head and at the same time the price of this reptile!

          Rope is cheaper.
          1. Prisoner 18 January 2020 20: 38 New
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            Also an option!
          2. martin-159 19 January 2020 08: 09 New
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            Moreover, it is reusable.
  • The Siberian barber 18 January 2020 18: 52 New
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    ... "with a black sheep, even a tuft of wool" (c)
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      eai 18 January 2020 19: 15 New
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      True veterans have long been dead !!! Those who were in the rear and, supposedly, veterans, have already received three apartments from the state, for themselves, children and grandchildren !!! ! And those who lost loved ones in the war should plow them ... I met a woman in the hospital, asked without a queue, supposedly a veteran! He asked - what year of birth - 1944. Born in Germany - What kind of veteran is she ??????????????????? Received compensation from the Germans and let them say thanks for being alive!
      1. Prisoner 18 January 2020 20: 26 New
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        Did you think a lot? sad Heroes of the Soviet Union, who received the title for exploits in the Great Patriotic War, are still alive. Last year there were more than two dozen. But unfortunately time is inexorable.
  • Old26 18 January 2020 19: 02 New
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    Yes, in such matters it is generally necessary to individually approach. Someone to buy an apartment, someone to make repairs, someone to pay for good treatment, etc., but we all have one basket.

    Apartments are a separate program. I don’t know what about the repair, but about the windows. In 2018, his father changed all four windows (three-room apartment) and glazed the balcony. And not only glazed, but also tiles on the floor and ennobled the "ceiling"
    And money is a financial “recharge”. In addition to this, veterans are also given some gifts. “Gorelektroset” was generally given a whole wicker basket. The city gave veterans at the parade the things from the war (also not empty). A trifle seems to be, but nice ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    For me, there are not many 750 thousand. Despite the fact that the state is obliged to give them apartments, cars, free medical care in the best clinics in the world, and a decent pension in the amount of much more than deputies and governors.
    And the most bitter thing is that the state can do it, but someone up there decides that it will do.

    Well guys, you’ve gotten a hold of it. If we take into account that in previous years they gave 10 thousand, now now it’s more.
    As for the apartments - there is a program (at least in our city) when the veterans are provided with an apartment, but only for its personal use. Relatives are not registered in such apartments. Plus, the house has a medical center, shop, pharmacy. A sort of autonomous complex.
    Cars - now they don’t need them anymore, and 20 years ago too. Although the cars basically stood out for veterans ...
    Free medical care in the best clinics in the world? Do you guys want veterans who you hate so little left? What would be the attitude towards them, if they had received 760 thousand a month or more, free apartments, cars, free medical care in the best clinics in the world, when those who, due to their age, were repairing the ruins of the war, raised the virgin soil, built everything that The USSR received after the war after 40-45 years of work, the pension would have been 20 thousand, medical care would have been at the level of a district clinic ... Envy is a terrible thing.

    Quote: Yves762
    Well, with this approach, dear, it would be possible (and not ashamed) and wait until the 80th anniversary ...

    And how many will live up to the 80th anniversary, when there are now just over a million of them in the country? Father on the 80th anniversary of Victory will be 100 years old. He intends to take this line. So to say "minimum program"

    Quote: NEXUS
    Yes, I want for this phrase ...

    They now have more pensions than my salary. Do not worry about them.


    What have you done to write this?

    But Sergey, in principle, is right. Veterans receive a decent pension. And this pension is more than the majority of salaries in the region, and even more so in relation to the pensions of those who are now 60-65. And it's not about what someone did in order to write. It's simple FACTS and nothing more.

    Quote: NEXUS
    What exactly is it because the veterans are dying like flies in the absence of normal medical care and the state only remembers them by May 9, or maybe for their well-being, which allows them to live comfortably, enjoy the clear sky that they have saved for us all? Why rejoice? This alms in the amount of 75 thousand? Are you serious?

    Andrew! Do not distort. Rather, those men who retired 5-10 years ago die like flies. And veterans have the opportunity to go to the sanatorium for free, and with regard to medical care and social services, they are also not doing so badly. Fixed social workers who regularly visit them.
    And the fact that somewhere they recall only on May 9 are the problems of the leadership of the city and the region (region). Where is the normal power - remember not only May 9th. And I'm sorry, but 75 thousand is not alms when the average salary in a city is 28-30 thousand. Plus quite good pensions for veterans ...

    Quote: Shahno
    Well, honestly. A couple of zeros would be added. And it’s kind of like a piece thrown.
    75000 is a little more than $ 1000. Not modest, no?

    Compared to the oligarchs - very, very modest. Compared with other pensioners, it’s very good when your pension is 11-15 thousand rubles ... Alas, people in Russia live by no means richly
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      Finally an adequate comment!
      And in general, to judge the privilege of these same veterans is much .... nothing to count their money.
  • janeck 18 January 2020 19: 26 New
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    this is called the "final monetization of the feat" of our veterans of the Great Patriotic War .. there wasn’t enough mind for these "guardians" of glory of the Soviet people!
  • shura7782 18 January 2020 19: 27 New
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    It’s good when people care. Especially about veterans. It’s good when from the heart, from the heart, and not with the expectation of the public. Like a beautiful gesture, a kind of acquisition of loyalty at the right time at someone else's expense. I would like to recall another category of people. They, too, are slowly leaving us. These are our parents - Children of War. There is a social payment for this category of people, but not everywhere. There are in Moscow and other regions, but not in the Vladimir region. They are offended. Yes, and for me, too.
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      About veterans of Afghanistan and other wars after 1945, I'm for !!!! And when, every husk gives itself to WWII veterans, it’s ready to tear to pieces! Shame, at 7 we were starving to death, and the mothers of the children of 1944 and the Germans were sleeping and shells for the German army were stamped. Now ours should sit in line, and this one is a veteran!
  • Old26 18 January 2020 19: 35 New
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    PS By the way, in 1985, veterans were given the Order of the Great Patriotic War of 1 and 2 degrees, to the 40th anniversary of the Victory. Those who had military awards for them were 1st degree, those who had no military awards, they were 2.

    Not certainly in that way. The order of the 2nd degree was received by one who was not wounded at the front. Who was injured - received the 1st degree. Not what you write. How do you imagine a war veteran who does not have a military award? Maybe someone did not have an order, but in any case he received the medal “For Victory over Germany” if he was in the armed forces ...

    Quote: Benzorez
    There’s no one to hand out. The real warriors, a hundred years as "on the hill" ... A mummy frontman who bought medals ... For what?

    There is still someone. There are few of them left, very few (at the beginning of the article the numbers are announced), but they remain. After all, they will be issued not at the parade where the mummers are, but along the lines of the military registration and enlistment office and the Pension Fund ...

    Quote: Captive
    Is 750 weak? If we take into account how much of any trellis steals from the treasury and the number of surviving veterans, then even 000 is normal. There will be less snickering power bastard.

    You can give 75 million. The question is only another. Not in the snickering S. Volichi, but in the veterans themselves. Here in our 80-apartment building there is only one veteran. My father. Do you seriously think that the remaining 78 apartments will be happy for my father, a veteran, who would suddenly receive 750 thousand, or 7,5 million, or 75 million and could travel for free to western clinics ??? Rather, he would become the object of envy of these people, and perhaps he would become the object of persecution and meanness.
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  • Lena Petrova 18 January 2020 19: 37 New
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    It would be nice to compare what amounts veterans in other former republics will receive?
  • Charik 18 January 2020 19: 39 New
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    it would be interesting to know how those Germans live who fought for the fascists
  • Shahno 18 January 2020 19: 43 New
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    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Altona
    PS By the way, in 1985, veterans were given the Order of the Great Patriotic War of 1 and 2 degrees, to the 40th anniversary of the Victory. Those who had military awards for them were 1st degree, those who had no military awards, they were 2.

    Not certainly in that way. The order of the 2nd degree was received by one who was not wounded at the front. Who was injured - received the 1st degree. Not what you write. How do you imagine a war veteran who does not have a military award? Maybe someone did not have an order, but in any case he received the medal “For Victory over Germany” if he was in the armed forces ...

    Quote: Benzorez
    There’s no one to hand out. The real warriors, a hundred years as "on the hill" ... A mummy frontman who bought medals ... For what?

    There is still someone. There are few of them left, very few (at the beginning of the article the numbers are announced), but they remain. After all, they will be issued not at the parade where the mummers are, but along the lines of the military registration and enlistment office and the Pension Fund ...

    Quote: Captive
    Is 750 weak? If we take into account how much of any trellis steals from the treasury and the number of surviving veterans, then even 000 is normal. There will be less snickering power bastard.

    You can give 75 million. The question is only another. Not in the snickering S. Volichi, but in the veterans themselves. Here in our 80-apartment building there is only one veteran. My father. Do you seriously think that in the remaining 78 apartments they will be happy for my veteran father, who suddenly got 750 thousand, or 7,5 million, or 75 million and could go to western clinics for free ??? Rather, he would become the object of envy of these people, and perhaps he would become the object of persecution and meanness.

    Judging by the minuses, this is really so. You will not believe my grandfather, a veteran of the Second World War 25 years ago, they also said. Where do you get so much money for?
    What difference does it make to you .... A pancake in Rehovot will build a synagogue. Or build a clinic in Abdulino ... What's the difference, or are you auditors for those who died for you ??
  • Was mammoth 18 January 2020 19: 43 New
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    I do not presume to judge whether it is a lot or a little. Better late than never. Of the many relatives, uncles and aunts who fought and worked in the rear, there was only one mother, the youngest. She turned 90 last year.
    Quote: Welldone
    Cry from the heart... .

    Sorry, cynical. That will be you 90 Putin ....
  • Old26 18 January 2020 20: 24 New
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    Quote: eai
    True veterans have long been dead !!! Those who were in the rear and, supposedly, veterans, have already received three apartments from the state, for themselves, children and grandchildren !!! ! And those who lost loved ones in the war should plow them ... I met a woman in the hospital, asked without a queue, supposedly a veteran! He asked - what year of birth - 1944. Born in Germany - What kind of veteran is she ??????????????????? Received compensation from the Germans and let them say thanks for being alive!

    You just so, with one stroke of the pen wrote over a million people in the "untrue."
    There are still few, but still remained. Those who were in the rear are also not among those who received 3 apartments. Maybe some were separate, but this phenomenon was not massive.
    The woman you met in the hospital belongs to the category of children of war. In some ways they were equated with war veterans and disabled people, but not by all criteria. And those who were born in Germany, could belong either to the category of "children of war" or to the category of "prisoners of the camps."
  • Adimius38 18 January 2020 20: 25 New
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    before it was necessary, but now from these 75000 r veterans whose age is 95 years old is not cold is not hot, relatives may need, but a person of 95 years old needs little. This money would still be useful to children of war whose age is 20 years younger
  • alex007i 18 January 2020 20: 35 New
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    Yes, the money saved from the pension reform can generally please all pensioners, hypocrites, pah!
  • Old26 18 January 2020 20: 39 New
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    Quote: Adimius38
    before it was necessary, but now from these 75000 r veterans whose age is 95 years old is not cold is not hot, relatives may need, but a person of 95 years old does not need much from life.

    Well, why is it not cold, not hot. Something people can buy for themselves what they need. Do not allocate from retirement, but spend this money. Although there are a lot of chances that if not all, then part will go to relatives (some gift)
    1. Adimius38 18 January 2020 23: 43 New
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      buy something at 95 years old, God forbid, a person still in memory and not in a nursing home, but here you are talking about purchases. These funds in the bulk will go to relatives, this is more likely
  • 7,62h54 18 January 2020 20: 53 New
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    Interestingly, this year the Mausoleum will again be boarded up with plywood?
  • Dzafdet 18 January 2020 21: 02 New
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    another PR event? how would it be interesting for officials to execute it? Just like with housing?
  • Tarasios 18 January 2020 21: 14 New
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    Quote: cherkas.oe
    Quote: loki565
    Money solves all these problems.

    I beg you, 75000r. money? To pay for utilities for the year is not enough.

    Well, so pay everyone a couple of lyamas from their own, what's the problem?
    PySy: somewhere I already wrote a story from my example.
    From my own experience: I even simply gave money to people - they are still dissatisfied: they say, why are there so few?
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    Putin: All veterans of the Great Patriotic War will receive 75 thousand rubles


    And veterans of the Civil at 75 million rubles.

    Would be ashamed, all the faces are bursting with stolen money, and then another handout! Yes, to whom ...
  • Old26 18 January 2020 21: 31 New
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    Interestingly, this year the Mausoleum will again be boarded up with plywood?

    For the anniversary of the November parade, 41 years were not boarded up. We will see
  • destiny20 18 January 2020 21: 42 New
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    How many veterans of the Second World War in the USA get there? Of England? Germany? Of Israel?
    funny numbers
  • Egoza 18 January 2020 21: 46 New
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    Of course, this money will be useful to veterans. And it’s good that they were remembered. Only even with such money they will not console the veterans if there are no portraits of the Soviet Marshals of Victory and comrade I.V. Stalin. They will not buy veterans even for that kind of money.
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      I also met veterans (who actually fought) who did not feel much love for Stalin.
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    My grandfather died at age 90, waited for Vova when no one was left ...
  • Valter1364 18 January 2020 21: 50 New
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    And why not 76? or not 100? And why now, and not always? Why, when they left a small handful ?!
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      And what are the cons? What do we, who care about and whom we try to help, die and bend forward all? Is not a fact? They taped the whole country with ribbons, and veterans, both lived and live, live their lives in poverty! Do not know? Don't you know?
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    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Altona
    PS By the way, in 1985, veterans were given the Order of the Great Patriotic War of 1 and 2 degrees, to the 40th anniversary of the Victory. Those who had military awards for them were 1st degree, those who had no military awards, they were 2.

    Not certainly in that way. The order of the 2nd degree was received by one who was not wounded at the front. Who was injured - received the 1st degree. Not what you write. How do you imagine a war veteran who does not have a military award? Maybe someone did not have an order, but in any case he received the medal “For Victory over Germany” if he was in the armed forces ...

    Quote: Benzorez
    There’s no one to hand out. The real warriors, a hundred years as "on the hill" ... A mummy frontman who bought medals ... For what?

    There is still someone. There are few of them left, very few (at the beginning of the article the numbers are announced), but they remain. After all, they will be issued not at the parade where the mummers are, but along the lines of the military registration and enlistment office and the Pension Fund ...

    Quote: Captive
    Is 750 weak? If we take into account how much of any trellis steals from the treasury and the number of surviving veterans, then even 000 is normal. There will be less snickering power bastard.

    You can give 75 million. The question is only another. Not in the snickering S. Volichi, but in the veterans themselves. Here in our 80-apartment building there is only one veteran. My father. Do you seriously think that the remaining 78 apartments will be happy for my father, a veteran, who would suddenly receive 750 thousand, or 7,5 million, or 75 million and could travel for free to western clinics ??? Rather, he would become the object of envy of these people, and perhaps he would become the object of persecution and meanness.
    1. GenNick 18 January 2020 22: 12 New
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      Oh, I clicked something in there ...
      You know, and I would be glad for you and for your father .... honestly.
      You know, veterans, they deserve much more.
      And to be honest, I still can’t understand what is being done in their heart and soul, but it’s not for such a life that they fought and Won !!!!
      Health to your father and all-all veterans !!!!
      We remember and never forget what they did for us, their children.
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        Oddly enough, but many older people believe that as good as now, our people have never lived.
  • Andy 18 January 2020 22: 20 New
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    they have already been provided with housing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osupjsKBHoY
  • Old26 18 January 2020 22: 45 New
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    Quote: Egoza
    Of course, this money will be useful to veterans. And it’s good that they were remembered. Only even with such money they will not console the veterans if there are no portraits of the Soviet Marshals of Victory and comrade I.V. Stalin. They will not buy veterans even for that kind of money.

    You know, my father is absolutely calm about the lack of portraits of Soviet marshals and Stalin. But the fact that the Mausoleum is draped - he really does not like.

    Quote: GenNick
    Oh, I clicked something in there ...
    You know, and I would be glad for you and for your father .... honestly.
    You know, veterans, they deserve much more.
    And to be honest, I still can’t understand what is being done in their heart and soul, but it’s not for such a life that they fought and Won !!!!
    Health to your father and all-all veterans !!!!
    We remember and never forget what they did for us, their children.

    Thank! If I understood correctly .... - Gennady Nikolaevich?
    That they deserve much more is without question. Many, very many, were "crippled" by the collapse of the Union. And maybe not even the collapse, but that bacchanalia, which then began. Of course, they didn’t fight for such a country in which old people became regular “clients” of garbage dumps, when, due to lack of work and the inability to feed their families normally, men drank alcohol in the prime of life, when young people who graduated from universities were left with nothing. Not for such a life, you are right.
    And what is in their hearts and souls. You know, even I sometimes don’t know what is in my father’s heart, although of course, after I crossed the penny, we began to communicate quite frankly with my father. Before that, he still perceived me as a "kid."
  • Po-tzan 18 January 2020 23: 16 New
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    All veterans of the Great Patriotic War will receive


    My veteran grandfathers are gone. They did not wait for the apartments promised by Putin. The war ended 75 years ago. Even those who were called up in May 45th should now be 93 years old. GDP must wait another ten years, and there you can even promise to yachts ....

  • Old26 19 January 2020 00: 01 New
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    Quote: Adimius38
    buy something at 95 years old, God forbid, a person still in memory and not in a nursing home, but here you are talking about purchases. These funds in the bulk will go to relatives, this is more likely

    I’m not talking about everyone, but specifically about my father’s colleagues. As for the fact that part will go to relatives - no doubt. Moreover, I suspect that the father will also try to “palm off” us.
    And age. The concept is relative. One in 60 may already be bedridden due to illness, the second in 70 may already be out of his mind. Or maybe as a normal person. Father walks without a stick, of course, hunched a little, but 95 is 95. In the summer, and in the spring and autumn, when he is dryly engaged in Swedish walking (2-3 kilometers every day). Serves itself.
    And I clearly know what he wants to buy. Just before the New Year, his set-top box for TV was out of order. Under the videotape and DVD. Of course, DVD can also be played on a computer (in 2018 I graduated from computer courses), but on a set-top box and on a TV screen it is more convenient. So probably one of the purchases will be the prefix. refused to NG, said that "not burning" ...
  • Valter1364 19 January 2020 00: 14 New
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    Here are the freaks, how many of you got divorced here, on a professional, military-analytical resource that I once respected! Do you really want to get into shooting teams after the next NEP? You get in, don’t worry. Many in this country are always guilty and for the company, you will bury 10-20 million again, while you will husk the seeds.
  • CommanderDIVA 19 January 2020 01: 24 New
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    Here’s how, my grandfather, a front-line soldier, turned 101, I don’t know if he will live to the Victory Day, by and large, it doesn’t matter how much money is allocated there, it would be better if the local administration in the high-rise building where he lives the roof would repair it
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      The administration of the roof does not repair, this is the first. Rather than cry in a vest, I would write a request for repairing the roof to a service company and keep this matter under control, in extreme cases, the local media tighten up. And leave 75 to grandfather, he deserves them.
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        Your unnecessary advice will interest me last, save bile for your relatives
        1. Ros 56 20 January 2020 09: 54 New
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          And what is bile? I just know this question very well, I studied it for about 20 years until retirement, my guys repaired more than a dozen roofs. Ah, people, it’s necessary to be softer, softer. fool fellow stop hi