The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation left for the weekend - new versions of experts

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The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation left for the weekend - new versions of experts

Experts' expectations that Mikhail Mishustin will introduce a new version of the cabinet on Friday did not materialize. So far, the only newly appointed one (and even then not in the direct composition of the government) has become Daniil Egorov - now he is the head of the Federal Tax Service instead of his former boss.

Due to the fact that no candidacies for the posts of federal ministers were presented the day before, there was a version that these actions were “reserved” for the weekend, when citizens, by definition, are less likely to follow political events in the country. What does this mean?



This may mean that the new head of the Cabinet simply does not consider the possibility of having a “weekend” after being appointed to a more than responsible position. With such a post, it’s not at all until the weekend. If so, then deserves respect.

However, other assumptions are made. If the composition of the new office will be formed this weekend, then, perhaps, with the goal of “not injuring the psyche of Russians”, who for the most part are “busy” with the rest. Does this mean that the composition of the government will not fundamentally change, and that most of the “horses” will continue their journey “at the crossing” even with the new chairman - for now, the question is.

On the other hand, is there any point in rushing into such a thing? Acting de jure work so far, which means that you can form a new composition of the Cabinet quite calmly. The main thing is not to read Mishustin in the morning in the morning ... But the Russian experts "know better" who and what post to offer, much better than the prime minister himself. Kadyrov, if you pay attention to newspaper publications, was not sick at all, but was preparing to become the "presidential envoy," Mutko had to pack, unpack and pack his bags again at least three times, etc.

Meanwhile, even the head of the US State Department, Mike Pompeo, decided to comment on the change of head of government. It would seem, what does it have to do?

The US Secretary of State suggested that the resignation of the Russian government is somehow connected with the fact that Russia “wants to reconsider” its relations with Washington. According to Mr. Pompeo, changes in the Russian government will not affect this. If something like that about shifts in the US administration were announced, for example, in the Russian Foreign Ministry, then one could take bets as to how long in Washington they would declare "interference in intra-American affairs."
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      1. +6
        18 January 2020 08: 20
        Not only are they not stained. We need those who can keep their mouth shut so as not to annoy the electorate with their revelations.
        1. +6
          18 January 2020 09: 49
          The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation left for the weekend - new versions of experts
          or rather winked ... left a lot, with a lot of bureaucrats ... seven days a week crying
        2. +4
          18 January 2020 13: 02
          The principle of forming a government in Russia was long ago formed by the Strugatskys in "It is difficult to be God":
          "We don't need smart ones. We need faithful ones" (c)
          The "new" will be formed on the same principles.
      2. -1
        18 January 2020 08: 20
        Yes, it’s better to stain better than not to stain, on which a stain is on a stain - you’ll put a new one on and no one will notice. wassat
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          1. +15
            18 January 2020 09: 04
            Quote: GB-M
            If the composition of the new cabinet will be formed this weekend, then, perhaps, with the goal of “not injuring the psyche of Russians”

            Putin, having dismissed the government so unexpectedly, probably did not even think about a possible trauma to the psyche of Russians. So why does the author think that Mishustin will take care of this? I think the last thing they remember about the people! The main thing for them to put their decisions into practice, and as people think about it - this is the tenth thing. Pension reform to help you!
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              1. +7
                18 January 2020 09: 48
                Listen, dear, the people in Russia are certainly diverse, but even Volfych did not dare to speak on behalf of ALL the people.
                So, you should be a "Giant of Thought and the Father of Russian Democracy" lol
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                  1. +3
                    18 January 2020 10: 33
                    And whose training manuals do you mean?
                    If liberal, then it’s not mine, if it’s state, then all the more so, I did not care about them as much as liberal apologists ...
                    And who will you be from?
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            2. -11
              18 January 2020 09: 20
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              The main thing for them to put their decisions into practice, and as people think about it - this is the tenth thing.

              "State policy and governance in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings to use the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals".

              ps
              Crowd- "elitism" - this is when there is a crowd that does not understand anything in management, easily manipulated by the media, and there is something intelligent "elite" with limited knowledge of management, mainly thinking in the interests of their personal pocket.
              1. +10
                18 January 2020 09: 26
                Quote: Boris55
                Crowd "elitism" is when there is a meaningless sense, easily manipulated by the media, and there is something intelligent "elite" with limited knowledge of management, mainly thinking in the interests of their personal pocket.

                You are too cool Boris about his people! Do not forget, the most worthy and respected people have left the people - from the crowd according to you. Unfortunately, most of the people are inert, but there’s no getting away from it - such is life. The minus is not mine, I do not put them fundamentally. hi
                1. -4
                  18 January 2020 09: 30
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  Do not forget, the most worthy and respected people have left the people

                  Yes, but their management was not taught at school, and they became respected and worthy not because they crushed the loaf of power.

                  Quote: SRC P-15
                  Unfortunately, most of the people are inert, but there’s no getting away from it - such is life.

                  Unmanaged processes do not exist. If the stars are extinguished, then someone needs it.
                  1. +9
                    18 January 2020 09: 36
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Yes, but their management was not taught at school, and they became respected and worthy not because they crushed the loaf of power.

                    For me, it is better to be respected and worthy in life (albeit not having achieved sky-high heights) than an unbridled critic of the authorities who are trying to make their image of a fighter for the freedom of the people on this. Bulk bright example of such a fighter.
                    1. 0
                      18 January 2020 14: 39
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      than an unbridled critic of the authorities, trying to make his image of a fighter for the freedom of the people on this.

                      In this case, do you think that being in a "restrained" state, you can win the people's trust? This is the state in which all our system parties are. Therefore, they will never achieve "sky-high heights." How not to treat Yeltsin, but thanks to his violent nature and the location of the stars in the sky, he achieved power.
                  2. -2
                    18 January 2020 12: 06
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Unmanaged processes do not exist.

                    Yes, of course! The CIA and the State Department have apparently already left saliva: such an excuse for rocking the boat they threw them: - The resignation of the unpopular people of the Medvedev government! A new opportunity has appeared for the turmoil and rocking of society.
                    With bulk and liber - failed. It doesn't matter, we connect "leftists" and patriots! We form a "patriotic" protest majority and arrange a brand new Maydan on Red Square ... And all this under the slogan - FOR THE PEOPLE!
                    A sort of Judas-Golovlevs (with a knife behind their backs!), Guardians of democracy and the prosperity of "Russians" ... But how could it be otherwise!
                    Well, when will you learn to "mature at the root"!
                  3. +1
                    18 January 2020 14: 43
                    In a democracy, the reaction of citizens to any news has hysterical tendencies and a breakdown in panic.
                    Well, it’s not possible to control panic in principle.
                    Reaction or enthusiasm and bonnets in the air or mustache disappeared all krants and the search for the guilty.
                    And only at the stage when they are looking for the guilty can you already manage.
                2. +7
                  18 January 2020 09: 38
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15

                  You are too cool Boris about his people! Do not forget, the most worthy and respected people have left the people - from the crowd according to your

                  I agree to all 100. While everything is going, how is it going ... If the prime minister is a workaholic, is that good? To solve the tasks.
                  1. +1
                    18 January 2020 09: 45
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    If the prime minister is a workaholic, is that good? To solve the tasks.

                    Totally agree with you! If the prime minister and the new members of the government work tirelessly, this will benefit the country. Only let these hands not row towards you, but from yourself! And preferably to the people, to the people!
                    1. -3
                      18 January 2020 09: 54
                      Quote: SRC P-15
                      Bulk bright example of such a fighter.
                      Quote: Mountain Shooter
                      I agree to all 100.
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      Totally agree with you!


                      You yourself brought Navalny, as an example of crowd manipulation laughing
                      It’s impossible to manipulate people.

                      Only by hiding management knowledge from the people, they can assign themselves prohibitive salaries. The people should not thoroughly understand management, but they must have general ideas about management so that the next Chubais does not reappear and rob us. If we all refused vouchers then the sale of the country would not have taken place. They would definitely come up with something else, but not then.
                      1. +4
                        18 January 2020 10: 04
                        Quote: Boris55
                        You yourself brought Navalny, as an example of crowd manipulation
                        It’s impossible to manipulate people.

                        Bulk and does not think about the people! He only thinks about how to get into power faster! And about how it is impossible to manipulate people, ask the Ukrainians.
                        Quote: Boris55
                        If we all refused vouchers, then the sale of the country would not have taken place. They would definitely come up with something else,

                        Exactly, they would have come up with something else and would have torn the country all the same! In this case, it was a bunch of unscrupulous people who manipulated people who did not understand anything.
                        1. -1
                          18 January 2020 10: 43
                          Quote: СРЦ П-15
                          In this case, it was a bunch of unscrupulous people who manipulated people who did not understand anything.

                          I agree. In general, we are talking about the same thing.
                      2. +2
                        18 January 2020 12: 53
                        Quote: Boris55
                        It’s impossible to manipulate people.
                        But false values ​​can be imposed on him. And he, like a donkey for a carrot, will go to the right elite dear. Examples? Nazi Germany, Italy, Maidan Ukraine ... Trotskyism, finally!
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                          19 January 2020 07: 06
                          For the imposition of false values, a robbed, impoverished people are needed, moreover, something offended.
                          The example of Germany is especially relevant. The people of Germany were poor and insulted by the victorious countries, and it is worth noting that in Germany Nazism was a product of urban civilization.
                          In Ukraine, the nationalism of the local spill out of the remote western regions is not urban, but rural civilization from here and such kookies.
                        2. +2
                          19 January 2020 10: 43
                          Quote: saigon
                          robbed, impoverished people, and offended by something.

                          Well, and by whom was the Ukrainian people robbed? When the independent one left the Union, its economy was at the level of the then Germany. Even the national debt for the breakaway "brothers" was taken over by Russia, provided that everyone hand over the nuclear weapons stationed on their territory. Imagine what it would be like now if this condition were not met!
                          Therefore, your statement is partially true.
                        3. 0
                          19 January 2020 13: 16
                          In Ukraine, the situation is somewhat different, resentment towards the elder * brother * awareness of his secondary nature and, as already written, nationalism in Ukraine has rural roots, this is basically the difference from Germany.
                    2. -1
                      18 January 2020 11: 20
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      Totally agree with you! If the prime minister and the new members of the government work tirelessly, this will benefit the country.

                      And this prime minister has the most powerful levers, creating the most advanced tax machine in the world, he has a data bank for all oligarchs, businessmen, bandits (and the poor too), starting from the ruble, ending with bitcoin, no matter what country and bank they are in , all movability and real estate, if it is even in Antarctica. He has them all in his hands, I want to execute, I want a sweet one.
                    3. +2
                      18 January 2020 12: 48
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      Only let these hands not row towards you, but from yourself!
                      It would be good ... That's just the centuries-old folk wisdom, embodied in the proverb says: "Only a chicken rowing away from itself. The rest - to itself!"
                      The main thing is that they do not violate the law and do not get dirty in corruption.
                      Yes, they thought about the assigned case, and not about their preferences.
                  2. +3
                    18 January 2020 10: 09
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    If the prime minister is a workaholic, is that good? To solve the tasks.

                    So far (surprisingly) the prime minister's spouse has turned out to be a workaholic with 800 million "merits" listed for her ...
                  3. +4
                    18 January 2020 11: 14
                    Of course) this comrade is a techie and loves to work clearly and verified by numbers and algorithms, so we will soon "live"
                    1. +3
                      18 January 2020 13: 37
                      Quote: spirit
                      Of course) this comrade is a techie and loves to work clearly and verified by numbers and algorithms, so we will soon "live"
                      Writing off credit debts of Russians sounds certainly beautiful, but this is pure populism. Not in defense of Mishustin, or anyone else, the question simply arises - What if the write-offs do those organizations that issued loans? It is clear that the banks are not in poverty, but nonetheless ... Well, you and Fedya and Masha will borrow five thousand rubles each, and then they will say that they will not give it back and ask you to forgive it forgiving them generously. I do not think that you will be delighted with this initiative. Another thing is debt restructuring - by maturity, by interest, by installments in order to facilitate the debtor's fate and enable him to pay off in a more benign manner. If Fedya and Masha say that they will not pay you the whole five days at once, but a thousand each month, then this option will be prettier for you than to get nothing at all. Here, even Mishustin, even Sidorov, and even you, if you were in the place of the prime minister, would not have supported this initiative. To take and not give, this is bad, because it corrupts society and deprives it of the instinct of self-preservation. You can give - take it, no, then live within your means. Something like this.
                    2. +1
                      18 January 2020 13: 38
                      You mean you want all loans to be written off for free for 15 trillion - you do not forget that all these loans are money from deposits and savings held in banks owned by other people.
                      1. 0
                        18 January 2020 23: 03
                        Cuba Africa countries and so on and so forth can be written off and tear their socks in three skins ..just
              2. 0
                18 January 2020 12: 51
                Quote: Boris55
                Crowd "elitism" is when there is a crowd that does not understand anything in management, easily manipulated by the media, and there is a somewhat sensible "elite" with limited knowledge of management, mainly thinking in the interests of their own personal pocket.

                Almost any state in the world falls under this newly minted "term".
            3. +1
              18 January 2020 10: 02
              Why unexpectedly !?
              The president gave a year to rectify .. A year has passed.
              Yes, and it was clear:
              -on a prayer service for Christmas in the temple of In Putin alone stood .. without DA Medvedev
              -Gaydor forum ended without starting
              The President’s strategic line is maintained. Yes, and his own suit .. (billionaire? wink )
              In addition, the people will be driven .. digital matrix. Is it good or what ??
              Life will show..
              1. -6
                18 January 2020 10: 56
                Quote: To be or not to be
                In addition, the people will be driven .. digital matrix. Is it good or what ??

                As you know, after the slave system was feudal, then capitalist ... These are all stages of improvement of the same slave system. Each of them solved their tasks. The feudal system gave birth to landowners, large landowners, concentrating and controlling agricultural production. Capitalism is the construction of a technogenic civilization - cars, steam locomotives, steamboats, airplanes, which contributed to an increase in commodity circulation.

                The next stage in development is this is information about the product, its price and availability. As this new step in the evolution of mankind is called, this will be left to future generations. Our task is not to be left behind, but to be ahead of them. digitalization is an objective reality and ignoring her is a crime.
                1. +3
                  18 January 2020 12: 22
                  "Digitalization" assumes under itself the end result "automation of processes" based on decision-making by artificial intelligence "that is, in this case, a person becomes ... superfluous. Don't you find a" funny "situation? Does this give rise to the legs of "the presumption of consent to posthumous donation"? wink "Digital Russia" .... I'm already scared.
                  1. -1
                    18 January 2020 14: 34
                    Quote: Monster_Fat
                    "Digitalization" assumes under itself the end result "automation of processes" based on decision-making by artificial intelligence "that is, in this case, a person becomes ... superfluous.

                    Slavery, feudalism, capitalism, and finally "digital" - all this for the sake of production efficiency, the most efficient profit making. "Iron" does not matter what the profit will be or it will not be at all. "Iron" and its intellect are programmed by a person not for the sake of "iron", but for the sake of profit.

                    It is not enough to own information - it must be used effectively. Whoever makes decisions faster and more efficiently will be ahead. The figure gives such an opportunity. Sin is not to take advantage.

                    If we abandon the "figure", then we risk being left on the sidelines of history. The development of civilization can be slowed down (as it already happened with Russia, when the entire Western world switched to capitalism, our development was restrained by the Romanovs for 300 years, preserving the feudal system in Russia, the consequences of which had to be overcome with incredible efforts and sacrifices), but it is impossible to stop it.

                    Will something from this fall into the common people? Undoubtedly. Compared to the first slaves, the current ones live much more comfortably.

                    They say the story is developing in a spiral. I really would not want a repetition of negative experience.
                2. -2
                  18 January 2020 12: 27
                  But, first, MAN, and then a figure.
                  The figure is a means for liberating HUMAN from tension in life and ensuring for Him - Man - the worthy existence and development of his HUMAN potential and his capabilities
                  If the figure is the control of the Man and his control then. why the heck is such evolution and such an objective reality .. in the interests of one small group of society for control and another larger group ...
                  1. -1
                    18 January 2020 13: 25
                    Listen, you need to calm down a bit. We all want to live better and dream of happiness and prosperity, but you are already doing this completely rabid and without any connection with reality. You are ready to break with reality for a dream
                    Quote: To be or not to be
                    such evolution and such objective reality

                    We, ordinary people, are really pressed and bent. Our taxes are not invested in the economy, we are levied under the guise of deductions to the pension fund for almost a quarter of our earnings under the guise of a pension that we will never live to see, or overhauls that we will never see, and then, as a result, they want to drive us in and out to a digital concentration camp. You understand that this totally means, as the smallest example, that a fine for the fact that your car drove too close to the shore and got into the "water protection zone", or stood for seven minutes in a place where stopping is prohibited, will come to you automatically without any protocol and inspector, but only by fixing the coordinates of a car and a mobile phone, and automatically deducted from your card. And as an example, I don’t want to think about it. However, ancestors suggest that without expressing loyalty to the authorities, it will be a ban on buying and selling.
                    That’s why you need to cover us with digital control - to control our actions and thoughts. And you about the fact that after everything becomes even worse, the AI ​​will suddenly do everything for the common good. Naivety! He who is warned is armed. Arm yourself!
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                      18 January 2020 13: 50
                      Galleon (Andrey) Today, 13:25 NEW
                      I return your advice to you .. wink
                      "Listen, you need to calm down a little ..."
                  2. 0
                    18 January 2020 13: 54
                    But, first, MAN, and then a figure.
                  3. +1
                    18 January 2020 14: 39
                    But, first, MAN, and then a figure.
                    The figure is a means for liberating HUMAN from tension in life and ensuring for Him - Man - the worthy existence and development of his HUMAN potential and his capabilities

                    It's cool to live in the "matrix", isn't it? wink
              2. +1
                18 January 2020 11: 27
                Quote: To be or not to be
                The president gave a year to rectify .. A year has passed.
                Yes, and it was clear:
                -on a prayer service for Christmas in the temple of In Putin alone stood .. without DA Medvedev

                For the outgoing government and its second-hand chairman, even a year or even 10 years, there was no work from them and was not expected. Almost the entire composition was dependent on the oligarchy, or set up by the oligarchy, while the other part consisted of liberals. And they were all dependent on the "golden international".
                1. -2
                  18 January 2020 13: 06
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  And they were all dependent on the "golden international".

                  With his message, Putin just showed that we are going to disown the oligarchy ... Now we need to wait for the attack of the Bilderberg Club. They won't even forgive such a GDP! They are not accustomed to losing their "food base" ... Well, then it remains, as in the good old days - "self-reliance!"
                  1. +1
                    18 January 2020 13: 08
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Now you need to wait for the attack of the Bilderberg Club. They won't even forgive such a GDP! They are not used to losing their "food base".

                    This they did not expect.
                  2. -1
                    18 January 2020 14: 51
                    And why is the Western oligarchy worse than the home-grown Russian one? Or, under the Russian oligarchy, workers' salaries will be at the level of "Europe"? The fact that Russian business sharks are greedier and more unscrupulous than "Western" ones can be seen by comparing salaries in companies under Russian control and under Western ones. Well, and it seems that it was the Bilderbeg Club that put its signature under the law raising the retirement age in Russia. That it is this "club" that keeps the level of salaries in Russia at the level of Zimbabwe? What exactly did the "West" raise VAT to 20%? Is it the "damned west" planning "cheburnet" and "digital concentration camp" in Russia?
            4. +2
              18 January 2020 10: 41
              - The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation was left for the weekend ...
              "Once on Epiphany evening ... the officials were guessing" (forgive VA Zhukovsky).
              1. +2
                18 January 2020 11: 15
                In other words, Pompeo said, "whoever said that the change of government is being done in the interests of the people of Russia, it is more logical that this is being done in the interests of Washington" ... Hmm .... but something, there is ... winked
              2. +1
                18 January 2020 11: 38
                Quote: knn54
                The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation was left for the weekend ...
                "Once on Epiphany evening ... the officials were guessing"

                I think this is a short pause, so that the people make a little sense of what is happening, but in reality everything was decided a long time ago, not in a day or two. A very limited number of people knew about this, and then they poured water on their heads like a tub, not letting those holding power, foreign agents and unfriendly media out of their ears. One day and did not have time to utter a word. Competent move, very competent.
            5. -2
              18 January 2020 11: 48
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              I think the last thing they remember about the people!

              I have the impression that you did not read the President’s message and did not hear anything about him!
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              The main thing for them to put their decisions into practice, and as people think about it - this is the tenth thing.

              If they implement the DECISIONS of the PRESIDENT in life, then the people will think about them well. If they continue to wander around like a plush government and do not follow the instructions of the guarantor, the people will think badly of them and their President WILL LEAVE like the previous government.
              AHA.
              1. -1
                18 January 2020 11: 58
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                I have the impression that you did not read the President’s message and did not hear anything about him!

                I watched the message of the president. And I believe him! But how the new government will implement this message is a big question. May presidential decrees are still not fully implemented.
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                If they continue to wander around like a plush government and do not follow the instructions of the guarantor, the people will think badly of them and their President WILL LEAVE like the previous government.
                AHA.

                The former government president left for almost eight years. Why do you think the new government could suffer the same fate faster?
                1. +1
                  18 January 2020 12: 18
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  But how the new government will implement this message is a big question.

                  We will see! But for some reason it seems to me that MihMish is tougher, plush and the goals set by the guarantor, even with the quiet sabotage of the financial unit, will sell to its cast-iron Faberge! And, judging by what he did with the tax collectors / Baskaks, he will be able to do it!
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  May presidential decrees are still not fully implemented.
                  So, therefore, the previous government has GONE ... Patience even with GDP is not unlimited!
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  The former government president left for almost eight years. Why do you think the new government could suffer the same fate faster?
                  I don’t think so at all! Now the tactics will be different: to take out empty cartridges from the holder and replace them with military ones ... And the cart of our reality will quickly roll uphill.
                  Do not even hesitate!
                  1. 0
                    18 January 2020 12: 41
                    MihMish is trained only to take money from the population !!! If he is such an effective tax specialist then what is he against the deferred tax scale then?
                  2. +1
                    18 January 2020 14: 46
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Now the tactics will be different: to take out empty cartridges from the holder and replace them with military ones ... And the cart of our reality will quickly roll uphill.
                    Do not even hesitate!

                    Now, if Vladimir Vladimirovich did this all the time of his reign, then the "cart of our reality" would have long been at the top of the "mountain". In the meantime (in economics) I see Sisyphus rolling a stone up the slope, risking being crushed by this stone. But all the same, I can only wish our president one thing: that he safely (I hope with the help of the new government) reach the peak of the power of our country. And if the country flourishes, then I am sure the people will be happy.
                2. 0
                  18 January 2020 13: 46
                  Well, it’s just that Mishustin will create a digital system of strict audit of budget spending in all 85 regions of Russia. And for one, the incomes of 13 million shadow workers will come to light.
            6. Fat
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              19 January 2020 00: 25
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Pension reform to help you!

              Yes, you turned beautifully, you yourself will retire at 65? After all, in life for the Fatherland did? You can do more, so do it. Teach the young. And then heaped from friends will only eat one thing. Income at all costs ... And decency is not a profession their favorite slogan. In connection, I recall :: The Russians invented Love in order not to pay money ... To me, personally, my old-age pension does not shine. Wild capitalism made him an invalid ... Nerves and affordable medicine have put it out.
              They offered to earn money in black ...
              Online ... I can but I won’t!
              I do cool things with my hands and head. Not many can.
              So I WILL do until I die ...
              And the pension for the completely worn out people is sincere. Not for me for sure. For a coffin, not a pension is needed, but a stocking under a mattress.
              I hate well-wishers and "benefactors * intercessors ...
              While I am alive, I will not stop "plowing" and I will teach many the case.

              ...
    2. +5
      18 January 2020 08: 13
      Yes, nothing will change, some United Russia people took off others
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        1. +3
          18 January 2020 08: 29
          There are the same grabbers in this contest! And the competition was so that new thoughts appeared on optimization and tightening of nuts! And then in the thought there are already not enough thoughts!
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          2. +1
            18 January 2020 11: 39
            Quote: Popuas
            And then in the thought there are already not enough thoughts!

            That's why she thought, so as not to think.
      2. +5
        18 January 2020 08: 27
        Quote: Adimius38
        Yes, nothing will change, some United Russia people took off others

        But it seems to me that radical changes will occur ...
        If the current authorities do not want to allow after 2024 sharp political turns, then an economic breakthrough is needed. We have the necessary funds for this, now we need to recruit a team that is able (effectively) to work effectively with them.
        With the new prime minister, talented techies should come, not political figures.
        We will see ....
        1. +2
          18 January 2020 08: 56
          Quote: Valery Valery
          Now you need to type a team that is capable of them (means) to work effectively.

          But you must understand that in United Russia there are no such personnel. But the opposition, even the one that is, will not be allowed into power.
          1. -2
            18 January 2020 10: 08
            In order to understand, you first need to have a database of WHAT you need to master for understanding. The EP could not have such a basis, in principle, since the PROCESS of elections was not accompanied by an election procedure (a package of data was not considered that represented the full extent of the applicant's compliance with this post) i.e. was incomplete and was not exhaustive (practically this list of correspondence was NOT AT ALL, i.e. it does not exist in nature !!)
            And if "for his business", then it is good if there are a dozen candidates, whose names are on everyone's lips; those who became famous for their anti-national affairs and laws are also well known and also by their ratings.
            1. 0
              18 January 2020 10: 13
              Quote: hydrox
              And if "for his business", then it's good if there are a dozen candidates,

              Which are not related to the economy of the state. Like for example Shoigu and Lavrov. request
              1. -1
                18 January 2020 10: 39
                What does the economy have to do with it?
                The state has a lot of functions and the economy is only one of them: the others also need to be managed by someone. Do you have claims against Shoigu and Lavrov as heads of the respective ministries?
                So do not keep them in yourself, express: emotions, delayed to utter, destroy the psyche of personality. lol
                The body, overloaded with emotions, also reboots the hormonal systems, and if they all start to "storm" - the case may end up in hospitalization, and thank God if you get out on your own feet.
                1. +3
                  18 January 2020 11: 03
                  Quote: hydrox
                  What does the economy have to do with it?

                  It is the success of the economy that determines the status of a strong / weak state. As already mentioned, politics is a concentrated expression of the economy. It depends on it the stability and welfare of citizens.
                  Quote: hydrox
                  Do you have claims against Shoigu and Lavrov as heads of the respective ministries?

                  Did I say that? I mentioned them in connection with your comment about "untainted candidates". request
                  Quote: hydrox
                  So do not keep them in yourself, express: emotions, delayed to utter, destroy the psyche of personality

                  Nothing comes from anywhere, and does not go anywhere - having "unloaded" my psyche, I will load someone else's. Do you need it? wink And so I try not to strain, and I often remember the statements of the great Carlson - "Calm, only calm!" laughing
                  1. 0
                    18 January 2020 11: 28
                    About "spotless candidates" - this is your personal invention, I did not say anything like that ...
                    Oooo!
                    1. +1
                      18 January 2020 11: 43
                      That latno? belay
                      Quote: hydrox
                      And if "for his deeds" it’s good if there are a dozen candidates whose names are well known to everyone. those who became famous for anti-people affairs and laws are also well known and also in their rating.
                      Either I misunderstood, or you expressed the thought incorrectly.
                      1. +3
                        18 January 2020 12: 36
                        Partially I recognize the joint, but I ask you to cancel the interpretation, and then close the awkwardness ...
              2. 0
                18 January 2020 11: 43
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Which are not related to the economy of the state. Like for example Shoigu and Lavrov.

                These are two people who can and should be respected.
              3. 0
                18 January 2020 13: 59
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Which are not related to the economy of the state. Like for example Shoigu and Lavrov.

                Both Lavrov and Shoigu, by their activities, create favorable conditions for the development of the state's economy ... And you say - "they have nothing to do."
              4. +1
                18 January 2020 14: 49
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Which are not related to the economy of the state. Like for example Shoigu and Lavrov

                Igor, you do not know the classics:

                Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy. Politics is Lavrov, oddly enough.
                War is a continuation of politics by other means. And is responsible for this, in this case - Shoigu belay

                Do not disgrace. This is good advice.
                1. +2
                  18 January 2020 16: 51
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Igor, you do not know the classics:

                  Pussycat, I know one thing - you like to be smart without any sense. The country's economic development depends on Shoigu and Lavrov very, very indirectly - not their direction.
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Do not disgrace. This is good advice.

                  1) You cannot give good advice.
                  2) The council itself looks extremely ridiculous, coming from a person who disgraces himself here regularly. Dumb troll comments, almost always irrelevant to the topic of the article.
                  1. +3
                    18 January 2020 16: 59
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    practically always unrelated

                    I would learn Russian only because
                    What did Lenin talk to them laughing

                    There are two errors in the selection, isn't that too much? How much did they get a diploma, "economist"? wink

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    You cannot give good advice.

                    I can easily. Moreover, I regularly do this, sometimes for money. There is such a topic - IT consulting, but it will probably be difficult for you request

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Kisa

                    I told you already, repeatedly - for "kitty" - to my wife ... well, or "to my aunt." You are our cat-concerned.

                    Okay, buddy, let's ... don’t cough, and look do not drown in the hole; lower the holiday to darken laughing
          2. +1
            18 January 2020 13: 33
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            the opposition, even the one that is, will not be allowed into power.

            Political (goal setting), managerial (executive) and economic (means of achieving goals) levels should not be confused.
            They are not allowed into power. They are fighting for power (parliamentary or coup-revolution). And no one voluntarily gave up power ...
            About the opposition. The swamp venture near Fushington failed (it was compromised by odious figures and actions). Now the amas have relied on "patriots" - leftists, neo-Trotskyists ... They will look for shortcomings, exaggerate them in every possible way, under the plausible slogans of "concern for the welfare of the whole people" to anger the electorate and call Russia to the ax ...
            This is the course for the Maidan "on the left"! If we are sheep and follow these "impulses", then we will get first on January 9, 1905, and then confusion and the collapse of the country.
            Understanding all this, the guarantor promptly made (it seems to me) the right managerial decision: the Message is a program to relieve social tension that has accumulated in our society. To bring it to life, he began to select performers. The former, as practice has shown, would not be able to do this. Therefore, the government has gone plush.
            Somehow, however.
            1. +1
              18 January 2020 14: 06
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              The Message is a program to relieve the social tension that has accumulated in our society. To bring it to life, he began to select performers. The former, as practice has shown, would not be able to do this. Therefore, the government has gone plush.

              Right Vision.
              Now, in order to rehabilitate Putin, Mishustin scored points, and to show the future Minister of Finance that he has creative thinking and deserves this post, the following should be done.
              1. Putin to initiate the rejection of the "pension robbery".
              2. Mishustin initiate a progressive TAX for all incomes above 50 ty. personnel (salary) and 50 tyr. free (declared) per month with a cut-off (bye !!!) of 35% from 5 million (the rest at a tax rate of 20% to the investment bank for a deposit!).
              3. The Ministry of Finance during the year ORGANIZE personal pension accounts for all those still working with Russia, which will take into account ALL pension accruals of a citizen for the entire period of his work + %% for using funds in investment projects.
              These are approximately the results I expect from the pr-va for 2020.
              1. 0
                18 January 2020 14: 24
                Quote: hydrox
                Mishustin initiate a progressive TAX for all incomes above 50 ty. personnel

                The level is understandable ... that is, your fortieth (a little more, IMHO) a month you have ...

                Quote: hydrox
                I had a salary of 520 rubles under the Soviets, ... - and now yes, a penny ...


                Quote: hydrox
                progressive TAX for all incomes above 50 ty. personnel (salary) and 50 tyr. free (declared) per month with cut-off (BYE !!!) 35% from 5 million (the rest at a tax rate of 20% to the investment bank for a deposit!)

                Did you understand what you wrote? Bullshit, patented laughing
                1. +4
                  18 January 2020 14: 33
                  Please, be so kind as not to write to me in such a tone :: I refrain from commenting on what you wrote ...
                  1. -1
                    18 January 2020 14: 35
                    Quote: hydrox
                    Please, be so kind as not to write to me in such a tone ::

                    I am ready to write to you in any tone, if you finally deign to start answering completely specific questions asked to you. Arising, by the way, from what you wrote here ...

                    It's all right? wink
                    1. -1
                      18 January 2020 17: 08
                      No, that won’t work, and virtual Jack will take his virtual place if you don’t get into the virtually correct form.
                      1. +1
                        18 January 2020 17: 21
                        Quote: hydrox
                        No, that will not do

                        Well, it’s not right to please you. Toda so dear:

                        - you “skillfully” avoided the question of who you were when you worked with a soldering iron for 520 r a month. What does it mean somewhere lies.
                        - your fifteen to you - just, IMHO, talkers pay more - no state can stand.
                        - Your opinion of me is completely uninteresting to me.

                        That's something like Yes
              2. +3
                18 January 2020 14: 25
                Quote: hydrox
                Here are some of the results I expect from pr-va for 2020

                I'm afraid I will disappoint you: this will not happen.
                The reason is not MihMish at all, but much higher!
                The guarantor is under the hypnosis of Mr. Kudrin ... And "Baba Yaga is against."
                So alas ...
                1. -2
                  18 January 2020 14: 36
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  The guarantor is under the hypnosis of Mr. Kudrin ...

                  That's not a fact request laughing
                2. +2
                  18 January 2020 14: 39
                  Well, Kaa, banderlogs are your specialization, so we’ll look: after all, it’s about life and death, and not about choosing a cheese ...
                  Half measures in this situation can not be done.
                  Too many liberoid plumes were mistaken for air kisses.
                3. -1
                  18 January 2020 17: 21
                  Quote: BoA KAA
                  The guarantor is under the hypnosis of Mr. Kudrin ... And "Baba Yaga is against"

                  Most of all, he is under hypnosis of a situation that he considered comfortable for himself and so stable that he could plan transit for 24 years, without being constrained by the timing and circumstances.
                  Apparently, the geopolitical situation begins to take on a menacing color if Suddenly there appears almost an emergency (at the same time not announced), when everyone starts to run as if they were Nazhen (after all, the internal political situation does not seem to portend anything extravagant ...)
                  1. +2
                    18 January 2020 17: 25
                    Quote: hydrox
                    Apparently, the geopolitical situation begins to take on a menacing color if Suddenly there appears almost an emergency (at the same time not announced), when everyone starts running around like a wall of pain (after all, the internal political situation seems to foreshadow nothing extravagant

                    Mdja ...

                    - How do you know anything about the "internal political situation"?
                    - what kind of "emergency" did you dream about, "undeclared"?
                    - "painted"- this is FIVE. Although even this was not invented by you, but a local correcting robot ...

                    Here zhezh talkers language, I'm sorry, Goss ... Rr-divorced
              3. -1
                18 January 2020 14: 40
                Quote: hydrox
                Right Vision.

                Oh?
                Wang is a thankless task. Not even new names, not even words, will be a good litmus test; it will be where the ministers who did not get into the new government will "emerge". "The first one went." A new place has already been organized for Medvedev!
                Did you hear that Putin and Mishustin are going to realize what you wrote? I'm afraid to upset you, I read the opposite.
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                I watched the message of the president. And I believe him!

                "Blessed is he who believes!"
                I didn’t look, there was no time, however, I worked. I believe that every citizen should be familiar with any public speech of the President. I read it in the transcript, not studied the comments.
                My opinion is work to the public. And there are plenty of unanswered questions.
                At least: "The opinion of the people, our citizens, the people as the bearer of sovereignty and the main source of power should be decisive."
                1. +2
                  18 January 2020 17: 40
                  I do not think that someone will object to you, but how do you think, I have the right to my own opinion, despite the fact that as a person "from the people", I believe that the Prospect's assessments of the social situation inside the country are not quite coincide with what is expected from the Prospect and the new Prospect in the first place - that's what I dared to write about the considerations of my circle.
                  1. +1
                    18 January 2020 18: 48
                    Quote: hydrox
                    ... in your opinion, I have the right to my own opinion ...

                    Without a doubt. As I hope, you will find it my right to consider it at least naive to expect actions from Vladimir Vladimirovich that contradict his affairs.
                    By the way, does it remind you of the decision to conduct a nationwide poll on the Constitution "appeal of workers"?
                    PS Putin's message was overshadowed even on "VO" by a significant event - the breakthrough of the blockade of Leningrad. One of my uncles was a defender of Leningrad. Killed. March 1942. Kolpino.
                    1. 0
                      18 January 2020 18: 56
                      Doesn't remind!
                      Crimea could be attached without a decision of the State Council, but with a solution - it’s much more comfortable.
                      So here, it was possible to appeal, but according to the results of the referendum - much more comfortable.
                      Do you see the difference? laughing
                      ... I do not see either. laughing ... but is it more comfortable?
                      1. +1
                        18 January 2020 19: 05
                        Quote: hydrox
                        Do you see the difference?

                        I see. The survey is optional. Therefore, they did not give a referendum on pension reform by hook or by crook, but also held a discussion? .
                        1. +1
                          18 January 2020 19: 39
                          But they did it their own way, and they succeeded - why not try now with a referendum, if the set that we are presented with doesn’t have a single question that would worsen the situation of the people - and this is also a constitutional provision! laughing
                        2. +1
                          18 January 2020 19: 54
                          Quote: hydrox
                          there is not a single question that would worsen the situation of the people — and this is also a constitutional provision!

                          Does it improve? wink And then why? wink
                          Now, if Putin was concerned about the real possibility of holding referenda, holding rallies and demonstrations (an unknown official can ban on a far-fetched pretext), the possibility of recalling deputies ... “The opinion of the people, our citizens, the people as the bearer of sovereignty and the main source of power should be decisive.” Vladimir Putin. I was dreaming. wink
                        3. +1
                          18 January 2020 20: 21
                          This is just an experiment with a referendum!
            2. 0
              18 January 2020 16: 46
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              The Message is a program to relieve the social tension that has accumulated in our society.

              It is precisely that their whole program is not in the development of industry, but in how to continue to eat, avoiding the Maidan, relieving social tension by changing actors.
              We have similar views, but I absolutely do not believe that a course change will occur.
              1. +1
                18 January 2020 19: 01
                A change of course may occur at the next political generation, but it is not yet visible.
              2. 0
                18 January 2020 20: 03
                By the way, I thought a little and a small, but encouraging thought came: it looks like we are running a little ahead of the steam locomotive, which is also not in a hurry.
                And the thing is this: imagine that the following names appeared in the members of the cabinet “Suddenly”: Glazyev, Boldyrev, Khazin, Starikov, Delyagin, Katasonov - in your opinion, a change of course is possible with such a set of actors (albeit not political and economic , but only socio-economic?)
                1. 0
                  18 January 2020 20: 10
                  Quote: hydrox
                  In your opinion, a change of course is possible with such a set of actors (albeit not a political and economic one, but only a socio-economic one?)

                  It is possible, but only no one will ever let them into the Cabinet. For they have no goals to develop the country. You will notice that even Gazprom's projects have lately, if not unprofitable, then very “long-playing” in terms of making a profit. And there was no real growth in industry, and there is still no. We live worse every day, with one hand they give handouts to the people, with the other they immediately take them out of their pockets.
                  1. +1
                    18 January 2020 20: 24
                    In my opinion, you overwhelmed about goals ...
                    1. 0
                      18 January 2020 20: 28
                      I do not believe that a country can be rotted like that without malicious intent. request
                      1. +2
                        18 January 2020 20: 38
                        Please forgive me, but for some reason I didn’t understand your idea: after all, judging by the brevity, there is a lot of sense there.
                        I ask for clarification ...
                        1. +1
                          18 January 2020 20: 43
                          Maybe I didn’t quite correctly and unequivocally answer -
                          they have no goals to develop the country.
                          They have those who now "rule" the country. Therefore, they will not let those mentioned by you into power. hi
                        2. +2
                          18 January 2020 20: 45
                          Thank you.
                          Now everything is in place and relative stability is fully guaranteed! lol
                          Returned to the beginning :: except that minor socio-economic improvements to reduce the degree of social tension - there will not be enough money for anything else.
                          So let's see where technocrats rule the economy.
                  2. +1
                    19 January 2020 19: 23
                    By the way, with regard to the new surnames that I have indicated, the most impatient and shameful liberoid has already been denied - well, these gentlemen do not want to enter into a dialogue: cowardly - I will not save! And all because fresh manuals from the State Department are expected only at the beginning of February (they also mowed, had a vacation, like our EP! (But they really are not up to us - they would have to deal with their fluxes)).
        2. +1
          18 January 2020 10: 16
          if during the match, pass the captain's armband from the midfielder - you think the defender will immediately change the team’s playing style and it will break everyone? with the same coach and players? Are you seriously?
          1. +1
            18 January 2020 15: 51
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            if during the match, pass the captain's armband from the midfielder - you think the defender will immediately change the team’s playing style and it will break everyone? with the same coach and players?

            Colleague, it seems to me that the "coach" finally took the captain's armband from the defender and gave it to the attacker! Yes, but in order to finally change the "style of play".
            About the players. They will probably also change. Young ambitious players have finally appeared on the bench (after the Russia - Land of Opportunities contests). Some people still have little experience, but this is a profitable business. The main thing is that they know how to play with their heads, and not just kick all the initiatives of the “coach” with their feet. Yes, and it seems that they are not going to pass to the enemy, like the previous ones.
            AHA.
        3. +4
          18 January 2020 10: 20
          Quote: Valery Valery
          We have the necessary funds for this, now you need to type a teamcapable of them (means) to work effectively.

          We have nothing. The funds are managed by Nabiullina and the NWF (34).
          And we all wait, hope and believe that the bells will ring again the boyars will come to power (our tsar is already kind and good) with a cold head, a warm heart and clean hands. But in life there is some kind of epidemic - helpful theorists with no experience of life in common conditions come to power at the average salary in the country. Their heads can only eat continuously (that is why they are paid huge salaries) and nod, heartless (because any normal person's heart broke long ago when looking at the "joys and delights" of provincial life) with "hairy" hands regardless of gender, age and natural constitution ...
          PSFootball is also in the world, even in our country - is. Only to win, it remains to recruit a team and appoint a coach ...
          1. +2
            18 January 2020 11: 47
            Quote: ROSS 42
            There is football in the world, even in our country - there is. Only to win, it remains to recruit a team and appoint a coach ..

            The coach was appointed, we are waiting for the team.
            1. +5
              18 January 2020 12: 55
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: ROSS 42
              There is football in the world, even in our country - there is. Only to win, it remains to recruit a team and appoint a coach ..

              The coach was appointed, we are waiting for the team.

              Do not be surprised if the team does not change much ..
            2. +2
              18 January 2020 16: 06
              Quote: tihonmarine
              The coach was appointed, we are waiting for the team.

              Vlad, do not confuse the coach with the captain of the “national team”.
              I hope the players will be from different "clubs", and not from one club "EdRo"!
              1. +1
                18 January 2020 16: 13
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Vlad, do not confuse the coach with the captain of the “national team”.

                Sorry, you are right rather the captain of the “national team”. The club performed poorly.
              2. +2
                18 January 2020 16: 14
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Hopefully the players will be from different "clubs", and not from one club "EdRo"

                The Edro club is on the verge of self-dissolution, IMHO.

                Putin moved away from them a long time ago, they held on to Vedmedev ... and now he is nobody. Honorary appointment - "Ambassador to Zopu" request
          2. +6
            18 January 2020 12: 53
            Quote: ROSS 42
            PSFootball is also in the world, even in our country - is. Only to win, it remains to recruit a team and appoint a coach ...

            And most importantly, to decide for what purpose we need victory in football ... so that the wives of football players would boast handbags that are several times more expensive than a taxi driver's car ... Or that Russian citizens would feel pride in the country and people. In other words, in addition to the coach and the players, the meaning must be filled with society and the meaning of this socialism that will unite people ..
            1. +2
              18 January 2020 16: 13
              Quote: Svarog
              and the meaning of this is socialism, which will unite people ..

              The people are all who inhabit our country ... (The population of the state, the inhabitants of the country.) And where are you going to get rid of the rich Buratin? They are not very eager to "unite" so that they can take everything away and divide it up again! Therefore, at the expense of unification ... should seriously consider. Maybe the ideas of developing the economy of Sweden or Norway will do it better? Well, if not better, then definitely - bloodier.
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          3. +1
            18 January 2020 15: 59
            Quote: ROSS 42
            it remains to recruit a team and appoint a coach ...

            Well, about the team, I agree. And the coach didn’t please you? Do you think the zyuler will be able to maintain social peace in the country in the current situation? not overturn the country into the abyss of turmoil and civil war? Mother Russia certainly cannot stand the third revolution: it will crumble into specific principalities to the joy of the Yankees and K *.
            Therefore, it seems to me that the current coach, let him stay and systematically implement the promulgated 15.01.20. Yes
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    3. +1
      18 January 2020 08: 14
      The time is now before the fall and the new Duma and changes to the Constitution. Then again, to resign and appoint a new one. Here he is in no hurry.
      1. +6
        18 January 2020 08: 26
        Quote: Teberii
        Now is the time until the fall and the new Duma and changes to the Constitution. Then again, resignation

        We hurried a little, the elections to the State Duma in September 2021, no one will do re-elections before, because United Russia has an absolute majority there. A referendum on amending the Constitution until May this year, the "new" government will only begin to work, and no one will resign either, so there is still stability, at least until the fall of 2021.
        1. +1
          18 January 2020 10: 18
          It will not work until the 21st; Before the 24th (and possibly earlier!) Putin needs to make so many changes, check so many solutions in the test version (even the Pr-in should show itself already to NG, well, the Duma by this moment will have to show its relevance to the changed situation ) - it turns out that the elections can be m. held in March-April.
          And in general, there was a feeling that time increased the speed (apparently, because I want to quickly see the results of the "revolution from above"!)
          1. +3
            18 January 2020 11: 20
            Quote: hydrox
            It will not work until the 21st; Before the 24th (and possibly earlier!) Putin needs to make so many changes, check so many solutions in the test version (even the Pr-in should show itself already to NG, well, the Duma by this moment will have to show its relevance to the changed situation ) - it turns out that the elections can be m. held in March-April.

            I respect your opinion, but now United Russia, after the pension reform and other negative laws passed, has, to put it mildly, lost its rating, and now it is simply inexpedient to hold re-elections to the State Duma of the United Russia, but the president in his annual message now proposed to extinguish the negative attitude towards the government with money - maternity capital for the birth of a child, free meals for schoolchildren of grades 1-4, assistance to the poor below the poverty line, etc., so now another howl will begin in the State Duma about how this party cares about the common people, there is time just by 2021 just to hang pre-election noodles for the average person to vote for the ruling party. The government will now be promoting more than ever, Putin's national projects will suddenly start to be implemented in a miraculous way, Medvedev will sleep on a stool in the Security Council, amendments to the constitution will be adopted almost unanimously. And I wish all of us - "we will live .." (Only old men go to battle ")
            1. +1
              18 January 2020 11: 42
              Quote: Anatol Klim
              the president in his annual address has now proposed extinguishing the negative attitude towards the authorities

              I understand this action of Putin, it is a win-win, but in this context school meals are Putin's idea and against the background of a worthless pro-va it looks good, but it looks something in relation to Putin, not EdRa! For EdR this will be too little, and perhaps even a proposal to cancel the retirement robbery of EdRu will not help to escape defeat, and after all, no one guarantees that the party division and the concept of "ruling party" will not be abolished in Russia (although the name-calling "party of technocrats" I like lol )
              There, in a previous comment, I squinted a jamb :: I meant the re-election of the Duma in the spring of 21, if time is already speeding up (not yet proven, but I want to think what will happen ...)
              1. +1
                18 January 2020 12: 10
                Quote: hydrox
                Putin’s idea also looks good against the background of a worthless production, but it looks in relation to Putin, not EdRa! For EdRa this will be too little

                The thesis, "The Tsar is good, the bad boyars" are gradually, slowly, but still leaving. People are beginning to understand that the president-government-United Russia is an indissoluble chain of the vertical of Putin's power, I judge my old parents, father of 85, mother of 82, idolized Putin, scolded the Medvedev government, now they just say, they are all at the same time, it is better not will be. hi
                1. +2
                  18 January 2020 12: 40
                  They say it right ...
                  But on the other hand: is it possible to admit that such a maneuver with pr-vom is to some extent a revolution? Ask them what they think about this (I don’t have anyone else to ask ...)
                2. +1
                  18 January 2020 16: 32
                  Quote: Anatol Klim
                  now they just say they are all there at the same time, it won’t be better.

                  I don’t know about "at the same time". But what will become "better" - I really hope! Otherwise, it will even be difficult to imagine the indignation of the deceived people ...
                  1. 0
                    18 January 2020 17: 00
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    I don’t know about "at the same time". But what will become "better" - I really hope! Otherwise, it will even be difficult to imagine the indignation of the deceived people ...

                    Yes, and hope dies last, you are probably broadcasting from France, where the French took to the streets against Macron's pension reform and achieved its assignment. I went to a rally in my regional center against the pension reform, so the police were no less protesters, no one called for a strike, for real protests too. So the classic - "the people are silent." Better go to the store and buy a check for dinner, it might get "better" drinks
                    1. +1
                      18 January 2020 18: 30
                      Quote: Anatol Klim
                      Better go to the store and buy a check for dinner, it might get "better"

                      Tip, hopefully free?
                      Then the answer is too!
                      Even in his younger years he was not fond of "checkers". According to the maritime tradition - more and more cognac, and rum ... and with a good snack ...
                      Therefore, it is not inclined to bite under the fence or in the garage.
                      And in the evening, at dinner in the family circle, as usual, - a glass of good white wine - but please forever!
                      1. 0
                        18 January 2020 18: 57
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Therefore, it is not inclined to bite under the fence or in the garage

                        Well, why so offend colleagues on the site, you have thoughts under the fence or in the garage, by the way there is no experience under the fence, but in the garage I met very decent people, the chief production engineer, the lead designer of one of the plants, you know very decent people, and Sometimes they passed a glass, but no one ever got drunk, everything was worthy, maybe you should not equate yourself with others.
                        1. +1
                          18 January 2020 19: 04
                          Quote: Anatol Klim
                          with very decent people, chief production engineer, leading designer of one of the plants, very decent people, you know

                          We, as a rule, went to the tavern and there quietly talked on topical topics. But they "talked" about the service only in the cabins, in a close circle of like-minded people ... On Saturdays, in the flagship's cabin, after the bathhouse, they had salon conversations with the staff of neighbors ...
                          And so that "above the ordinary", so it is only out of grief or on major holidays with joy. There is something to remember: awards, appointments to positions ... admission to the AGSH ... Everything was!
                        2. 0
                          18 January 2020 19: 34
                          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                          There is something to remember

                          I served in the Ground Forces, the RAV service, it is everywhere, in the Navy, in the Air Force, in the Ground Forces. we, by definition, did not have cabins, but each head of the RAV service had a RAV warehouse, I loved to go there, my ensign always pretended to be sick, oh and the sly bulbash was.
                        3. +2
                          18 January 2020 21: 21
                          Quote: Anatol Klim
                          by definition we didn’t have cabins, but each head of the RAV service had a RAV warehouse, I loved to go there,

                          On this occasion, I recall the movie "I am following my course" ... So there an infantry officer, being invited to dinner in the destroyer's wardroom, turned a wine glass in his hands and said: - what about: curtains, plates, cups .. And then, during a raid by fascist aircraft, he tried to hide on the upper deck, when one of his soldiers covered his head with his hands and lamented: - Well, how can you go without a trench, where can you hide from a fascist? Therefore, sorry, but the fleet is the fleet!
        2. +1
          18 January 2020 10: 19
          From the bottom of my heart, the wonderful word "stability" is already beginning to take on a little negative character. After all, consistently bad things also happen ...
    4. +1
      18 January 2020 08: 17
      The most important thing is that the government’s course will not change has already been announced, but according to the personalities ... let's see what to guess then ..
      1. +2
        18 January 2020 09: 30
        If the course does not change, then what was the point of changing the government !? what
        1. +1
          18 January 2020 10: 27
          If the course does not change, then what was the point of changing the government !?


          It's like in "Pyaterochka" ... Marketing. We changed the name, repackaged it, set a new expiration date. While they taste it, they will understand that instead of meat, the same slimy starch - they will buy it and gobble it up.
          Or maybe look for ministers on Aliexpress? Anything, even with shipment from China, will be cheaper for the people. recourse
          1. +2
            18 January 2020 12: 00
            Quote: dauria
            Or maybe look for ministers on Aliexpress? Anything, even with shipment from China, will be cheaper for the people.

            And you read "Parkinson's Laws". Or how comrade Stalin, appointing the director of a tank plant, had a conversation with him, a comrade asked Stalin, and where were the previous ones, to which Stalin replied, "Two were shot, and the third is sitting." The comrade agreed, and throughout the war he worked as a director. By what criteria to choose "Isn't it Lavrenty Pavlovich?
      2. +4
        18 January 2020 10: 26
        Quote: Van 16
        The most important thing is that the government’s course will not change.

        Most importantly, everyone knows that nothing will change, but the emergency valve has already worked ...
        In the country, half of the people do not care anymore, which is why they do not go to elections. And all the hope of the authorities is to have time to agree and adopt the necessary changes so that "it would not be bad for them" ...
        Quote: bessmertniy
        If the course does not change, then what was the point of changing the government !?

        Once again, they opened the lid of the saucepan "with boiling stew" so that it wouldn't burst ...
        1. +1
          18 January 2020 11: 02
          You are twice right, but at the same time the valve did not work itself, but it was raised. On the other hand, enough little things become "constitutional" to say that stability has been preserved. After all, is it really bad that a technocrat is put in place to manage the emergency valve, clearly with brains in his skull and behind his shoulders he has a decent job, and not puffing like a bun?
        2. +4
          18 January 2020 13: 01
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Half of the people in the country already do not care, which is why they do not go to the polls.

          Today I drove my wife to take a tooth out .. while I was waiting, the woman sat and commented on the news about the change of government .. It was necessary to listen .. the point is, briefly, that no one believes the ghouls anymore .. And the woman is waiting for 1917 .. those around her, who sat in the line, vigorously supported her .. All this, I was convinced that the boiler was beginning to boil .. There, in the government, I’m not fools either, having monitored the situation, they wanted to open the lid to release steam ... (change government), but the problem is that people do not already believe ... And even the pocket VTsIOM, saw the president’s rating increase, due to a change of government, by only 3% ...
          1. -7
            18 January 2020 13: 52
            This woman doesn’t know the story, however, like all her supporters — and if they knew any semblance of 1917, they certainly wouldn’t want to.
            1. +8
              18 January 2020 13: 56
              Quote: Vadim237
              This woman doesn’t know the story, however, like all her supporters — and if they knew any semblance of 1917, they certainly wouldn’t want to.

              They want it because they are tired of surviving, against the backdrop of an increasing number of billionaires .. But I think everyone knows this and knows that as a result of this revolution, a strong empire for all the existence of mankind appeared .. well, and most importantly, a social state and stability appeared. There was more goodness and justice ..
              1. +2
                18 January 2020 17: 12
                Quote: Svarog
                as a result of this revolution, the strongest empire for all the existence of mankind appeared .. well, and most importantly, there was a social state and stability .. there was more kindness and justice ..

                Personally, I’ve said everything for you ...
                But please, without a revolution, a Russian rebellion - a meaningless and merciless, bloody bath of a civil war ... (And is this really possible in modern conditions !?)
                I, glory to the Almighty, have already lived ... I only feel sorry for the children and grandchildren: I would not really want the revolution to fall on their lot ...
                And Aunt Masha (from the line) should be brought to Ukraine, to Donetsk or Lugansk ...
          2. -1
            18 January 2020 17: 05
            Quote: Svarog
            And the woman is waiting for 1917 .. those around him who sat in line supported her violently ..

            This woman, probably, naively believes that after 17 years a civil war will not come ...
            And the townsfolk, apparently, just as naively believe that the blood bath will not touch them ...
            How familiar it all is! Well, "Aunt Masha" does not want to learn from the mistakes of others: the Ukrainian Maidan did not teach her anything. Give her (in one soul) one more time to dance on the rake of the civil war ... And after that she, of course, will heal happily ever after! but it still won't work like a coolie!
            They say for sure: Folk folklore spoiled our people, fairy tales about Ivan the Fool and Emelya ... That's just where Gold Fish will fall for everyone, or, at worst, magic Pikes - I can’t imagine!
      3. 0
        18 January 2020 10: 57
        Two have already been given a "turn from the gate." Who are they? And what they were doing, I do not know ... I suspect that the "switchmen", on whom all failures in the economy and social sphere will be blamed.
        Anatolich has already been attached, because he has nothing to do with it, he asked us: "There is no money, but you are holding on." But we did not live up to the trust placed in us. I suspect that the "heroic fighter with the ruble - Elvira Sahip-back" will not be offended ... And how can you "forget" Veronika Igorevna, who has almost "brought victory" over "free medicine", do they really dare to prevent her from finishing this one " relic of the past "...
      4. +1
        18 January 2020 16: 42
        Quote: Van 16
        government course will not change

        All the same mistake! Apparently from ignorance of the political structure of our society.
        The government is the executive body! It’s like a clerk, with the master. Where the master orders, the clerk will steer there! Who has the legislative initiative (under the Constitution)? Who determines the domestic policy of the state?
        Laws (permissible scope of action of the clerk!) Who accepts?
        And all of you are talking about the "government course". Not tired yet?
    5. +7
      18 January 2020 08: 18
      Due to the fact that no candidacies for the posts of federal ministers were presented the day before, there was a version that these actions were “reserved” for the weekend, when citizens, by definition, are less likely to follow political events in the country.

      Why not put forward the idea that the new prime minister simply took a break in order to "measure seven times" again? Think about who to work with?

      Well, you can't, like that, for nothing, accuse a person of disrespect for people. Let him work, and then we'll see - either we will call the dogs by his name, like the name of Chubais, or vice versa - "Ah yes Mishustin! Ah yes someone's son!"
      1. +5
        18 January 2020 10: 31
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Well, you can’t blame a person for disrespect for people like this, for no reason.

        We cannot blame him for anything, except that he assured Putin that it is impossible to collect increased personal income tax with high-income individuals.
        1. +3
          18 January 2020 13: 03
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Well, you can’t blame a person for disrespect for people like this, for no reason.

          We cannot blame him for anything, except that he assured Putin that it is impossible to collect increased personal income tax with high-income individuals.

          So if Putin doesn’t succeed, maybe another president will be able to make the impossible possible .. Too much is not possible in the minds of our leadership .. this is very slowing down the development of both the economy and society ..
    6. +4
      18 January 2020 08: 18
      Russians are oil for the Kremlin. The opinion of oil is that on weekends, that on weekdays nobody is interested.
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        1. +4
          18 January 2020 08: 44
          To stand for your rights.
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    8. +2
      18 January 2020 08: 22
      As for Pompeo, he too much imagined that the new government of Russia is selected under American Wishlist. negative
    9. -1
      18 January 2020 08: 24
      100% will be new.
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    11. +2
      18 January 2020 08: 26
      On the weekend ... like rats, retirement age under the guise, appointing the government on the weekend ... when citizens are less watching ....!
      1. +2
        18 January 2020 08: 40
        Quote: Popuas
        On the weekend ... like rats, retirement age under the guise, appointing the government on the weekend ... when citizens are less watching ....!

        Well, retirement genocide okay during the World Cup am But the appointment of the new government doesn’t matter when. They don’t have enough time for swinging for now. Are citizens watching this action or not watching it? Nothing depends on us now .. We will express our opinion when they present it to us. We’ll also form a relationship for him for several months. According to his deeds .. Or affairs.
        1. +2
          18 January 2020 10: 12
          I can only say one thing.
          I live in Khrushchev, everything is audible. After the announcement of the pension reform, the neighbors stopped turning on the TV. Previously, Solovyov did not let him fall asleep with his midnight trills, they also listened to a similar broadcast by Roman Babayan, a talk show by Sheinin following the traces of events - day and evening, and God himself ordered the New Year's address! Nobody listened to the president’s message except me: specially muffled the sound, checked it.
          Since last year - silence, dead, absolute. Even movies, TV shows do not watch. Either for the sake of saving our common antenna television stopped paying (120 rubles), or something else. But the press on paper - buy. Maybe because there are different opinions, on TV - one thing. The stratification of the people into the ruling class and nothing decisive plebs happened somehow suddenly and immediately, with frightening evidence. Everyone suddenly realized that now we are a class society. The illusion of equal opportunity is gone. So the bulk of the population hardly even knows that a change in the ruling cabinet has occurred - for example, some have heard from the corner of their ears and are unlikely to attach importance. People are focused on their wallet, mulling over its contents.
          And you know which factor makes the most frightening impression? No, not the weather. There are many Russian male sellers. Behind the counters. In Soviet times, only butchers.
        2. -3
          18 January 2020 13: 54
          "They have no time to swing for a long time." - Are you in a hurry somewhere?
      2. AUL
        +3
        18 January 2020 09: 24
        Quote: Popuas
        ... when citizens watch less ....!

        When did the authorities interfere with the "surveillance" of citizens?
        1. +2
          18 January 2020 15: 00
          For me, an indicator of the complete impoverishment of the common people became ..... piles of not bought up New Year trees and the lack of New Year's excitement in supermarkets, people came of course and were awesome because prices were still rising before the New Year, I bought some cheap things and was leaving.
    12. +2
      18 January 2020 08: 34
      Here, and so everything is clear. Since the new prime minister does not even think of considering a suspension of adoption, it’s not that the abolition of the pension reform will make changes for the better, both for the population of the country and for the economy. Everything will also be left to chance, beautifully hang noodles on the ears of the country's population will now be other promises. The composition of the government is not important; its desire to work is important! And here the broom effect will be the same - they will work only in language, it won’t get to the point.
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    13. +5
      18 January 2020 08: 59
      The news is so-so ...
      Did not form a government. Will shape at the weekend ...
      The previous government - eight years stamped on the spot, skimming cream from oil and gas revenues.
      By the way, who said that the government will form Mishustin?
      For a second - it will be only after a change in the Constitution.
      None of this has happened yet.
      The new government, in the old fashioned way, will be formed by Putin.
      1. 0
        18 January 2020 10: 27
        Paul Siebert ... The new government, in the old fashioned way, will be formed by Putin.

        On the table, the president will have two lists of government candidates.
        One from the new prime minister, the second from the presidential administration. After his "correction", one will be sent to the lower and upper chambers. There is no need to wait for drastic changes in the line-up.
    14. +5
      18 January 2020 09: 00
      If the composition of the new office will be formed this weekend, then, perhaps, with the goal of “not injuring the psyche of Russians”, who for the most part are “busy” with the rest.


      More than a strange conclusion ...
    15. -2
      18 January 2020 09: 01
      They hung the country again into the standby mode of something.
      Not good or new troubles.
      But how the new government of "techies" is called upon to solve the problem of the next tough reforms.
      After, as the people howl at the end, skillfully transfer the technicians who completed the task to other fields.
      Unfortunately, what happened to us during the post-Soviet era can be described as follows.
      "There is no such deceived citizen who cannot be deceived again and again."
    16. 0
      18 January 2020 09: 11
      "But the domestic experts" know better "whom to propose and for what post, much better than the prime minister himself."
      That's for sure. No Wang is good enough for them.
    17. +1
      18 January 2020 09: 35
      Nothing will change. There was an attempt to unite Russia and Belarus, a new state, a new old president, until it came out. Now, for the parliamentary elections, a sweet carrot in the form of benefits and payments, but there will be so many conditions that the horseradish of paper to collect. And in 2024, power will gradually pass from the President to the unlimited Chairman of the State Council. And the president will have only representative functions.
    18. 0
      18 January 2020 10: 10
      The formation of the new government of the Russian Federation left for the weekend

      For those who work, the weekend, and for those "acting" - a roulette with one cartridge in the drum. crying
    19. 0
      18 January 2020 10: 24
      Everything is much simpler. Unlike the people, the government has long switched to a 4-day week. Who works on Fridays? Decided the day off - it means there will be a day off, at least personally with them.
    20. +2
      18 January 2020 10: 35
      Quote: Boris55
      People should not thoroughly understand management, but must have a general understanding of management

      We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not capable of immediately taking control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to run the state, to carry out the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from wealthy families officials can take. We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training.
    21. +1
      18 January 2020 11: 09
      The US Secretary of State suggested that the resignation of the Russian government is somehow connected with the fact that Russia “wants to reconsider” its attitude on the part of Washington.
      Here is "richer with a thought."
    22. +1
      18 January 2020 11: 45
      I remember when the last (last) Tsar Ampererator also played with parliamentarism.
      Bad ended. wassat
    23. 0
      18 January 2020 12: 23
      No need to rush into serious things, you need to think hard.
      1. -3
        18 January 2020 13: 57
        You can think as much as you like - the output will be a finger into the sky.
    24. 0
      18 January 2020 13: 19
      The main idea of ​​the author:
      Serfs, you do not bother, the boyars in the Government themselves will figure it out.
    25. 0
      19 January 2020 04: 36
      The grave diggers of Russia will not go anywhere and will not go anywhere.
      Not for that they are kept.
    26. 0
      19 January 2020 06: 59
      - Personally, I have already written that ... that our guarantor is going to voluntarily resign before the end of his presidential term ... and is simply going to "become Nazarbayev" ...
      - I.e. a person who does not officially hold senior government posts, but ... but ... but ... but at the same time all financial, economic and military-political power in the country is concentrated in his hands ... - Such a person in Kazakhstan is Nazarbayev ...
      - Our guarantor is going to become the same person in Russia ...
      - Our guarantor very cleverly and clearly got out of the blow of D. Medvedev, easily sacrificing the entire government ... -Now all responsibility for all the past (well, future, of course) falls on the newly elected M. Mishustin ... And about Medvedev in half a year, no one will even remember ... - it was an ordinary "empty space" ... - This Mishustin will answer for everything ...
      - Thus, our guarantor immediately "kills two birds with one stone":
      1. Saves for himself Medvedev, who at any moment can be useful to him (after all, he always came in handy for almost 20 years);
      2. Our guarantor shows all oligarchs that he “does not give up his own” and they are completely safe as long as he heads them (and that they should not show excessive “independence” and continue to support him in everything); thus, all financial, economic and power levers will remain in his hands ...
      - And the State Duma itself and the president (who will be elected) will remain to play the role of "cosmetics" and the appearance of "state power" and "head of state" ... - noisy, debating, discussing something and supposedly deciding state issues ... and that's it ...

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