What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

What future does the message of Russian President Vladimir Putin promise to the Federal Assembly of January 15, 2020? In essence, Perestroika-2 begins. Discussions on improving the well-being of the people and demography served as an information cover for the start of the second perestroika.

Property issue

What can be distinguished? “Kubyshki” (National Welfare Fund, etc.) will not be touched. There are no priorities for state investments and the mechanism of investments with "long" low-interest or interest-free money, as was the case in the USSR or in China. That is, the financial and economic policy will be the same, which was confirmed by the new Prime Minister M. Mishustin. The rich will continue to grow rich, the poor (most of the people) will go poorer. There will be more billionaires and multimillionaires, they will be even richer. Against the background of the general subsidence of the people into poverty and misery.

The issue of ownership (social justice) is a key issue for today's Russia, bypassed. The Mina, which was laid under the new Russia in the 1990s, when privatized state-owned property was transferred to a handful of scoundrels through privatization, is not rendered harmless. And its explosion can destroy not only the liberal Russian Federation, but the entire millennium-old Russian world.

The call to expand the rights of municipalities - bodies of democracy, without changing Article 12 of the Constitution ("Local authorities are not included in the system of state authorities"), is meaningless. According to article 3 of the Constitution:

"1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people. 2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through public authorities and local authorities. ”

In reality, the Russian people do not have the possibility of real democracy either through municipal bodies (councils), or through congresses, or through parliament, or through parties that serve only the interests of the authorities and big business.

The new status of the State Council, when this body should be above the legislative, executive and judicial powers, receive the right to go to parliament with legislative initiative and dispose of state property, is a continuation of the irremovable power of one person in Russia and his “friends” and partners. And the results of his 20-year reign in Russia are very sad. From the defeat of education, medicine and science, industry to the extinction of the Russian people.

Part of the presidential powers are transferred to parliament. But at the same time, the president retains control over the government, the courts, prosecutors and the armed forces. That is, dual power is being created: the president and the head of the State Council. This can lead in the future either to a further decrease in the role of the president, or to a conflict of interests; prerequisites for a coup and revolution will be created.

The inviolability of Articles 1 and 2 of the 1993 Constitution, demonstrated by President Putin, means maintaining the orientation towards a liberal democratic state, a republican form of government, “rights and freedoms,” and the invariance of the rule of private property. That is, the Russian Federation remains a state with pro-Western principles at its core. Conceptually, ideologically, financially and economically, Russia remains under the West.

Perestroika-2

Thus, “Perestroika-2” is an attempt by Putin and his entourage to preserve the former system, modernize it somewhat, make it more stable in order to survive the upcoming new wave of global unrest with the development of the scenario of a major war in the Middle East. At the same time, people were promised handouts. Nothing significant, not a single priority for the future of Russia and the people. Attempts to improve demography and cause a steady population growth with some material stimulation are pointless. Without a meaningful image of the future, a project and a development project, the abandonment of the Western society of consumption and extermination (the society of the Golden Calf), Russia will continue to die out, and even faster.

Putin's Russia remains in the past, the way out of which is the death of the state, civilization and people in the stormy sea of ​​global unrest. A change of government only means strengthening financial discipline within the corporation of power and money. To fulfill social obligations, national projects need money. The rich will not take them. Markers of this: Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens. Given the inviolability of privatized (stolen from the people) property, the entire financial burden will again fall on Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.

The likelihood of an “elite war” in Russia with the redistribution of property and financial flows is also increasing. There are two leading scenarios. The first is the rout of conditional liberals (the Medvedev clan). The president and the new prime minister, relying on the siloviki, will “squeeze out” the property and transfer financial flows to a part of the Russian “elite”, which focuses on the liberal-democratic wing of the global elite (including US democrats). The second - liberals led by Kudrin, Medvedev and Chubais take up. And they "rebuild" Russia for themselves, continuing its "optimization" (utilization). Medvedev in this scenario is a candidate for the role of the new president.

Comments

[Same lech]

What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

I believe that ordinary citizens will digitize everything and everyone ... all income and expenses of people will be kept under tight control ... Misshutin is ideally suited for this business ... there will be a kind of digital slavery in a golden cage ... something similar is created in China ... where an ordinary Chinese should already meet certain digital criteria for a stable life and by simply pressing a button on a computer it will be possible to erase a person from public life without much difficulty.
The complete uncertainty of the future ... despite all the declarations of Putin and his national projects, it is hard to believe in their social orientation ... after all, large commercial and private companies will be in charge ... the state will only deal with fiscal and tax collection ... very not a joyful prospect.

[maidan.izrailovich]

I believe that everything will be digitized by ordinary citizens ... all people's incomes and expenses will be kept under tight control ...

So, God forbid, someone does not decide to get rich unauthorized.
The main thing for the current government is that there are no extra rich. Only those who can.
Well, and in general, the course of your thoughts is quite logical and close to reality.

[Same lech]

So, God forbid, someone does not decide to get rich unauthorized.
The main thing for the current government is that there are no extra rich. Only those who can.

I can agree with this ... a club of billionaires has formed in Russia ... a narrow group of people with extra income ... an extremely closed club of the elect for the public ... it’s very difficult to find out what’s going on in it ... occasionally information about them is drained but he instantly overlaps.
Any attempts to tax them in excess are quickly suppressed by the Kremlin therefore, I am very wary and distrustful of Putin and his protege and his national plans.

[Tatyana]

Absolutely true article! And the author’s conclusions are absolutely correct!
I subscribe to everything that the author wrote! Absolutely under everything !!!

Putin's Russia remains in the past, the way out of which is the death of the state, civilization and people in the stormy sea of ​​global unrest. A change of government only means strengthening financial discipline within the corporation of power and money. To fulfill social obligations, national projects need money. The rich will not take them. Markers of this: Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens. Given the inviolability of privatized (stolen from the people) property, the entire financial burden will again fall on Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.

[Stas157]

The new status of the State Council when this body should be above the legislative, executive and judicial branches, get the right to go to parliament with a legislative initiative and dispose of state property is a continuation of the irremovable power of one person

Behind the external tinsel of the hype raised about the resignation of the government and new handouts to the people, essentially revolutionary changes are taking place in the structure of power. The basic principle of democracy is violated - the separation of powers.

The son-schoolboy in homework should have been brought proof ofthat in Russia we have democracy. The evidence was based on the existence of three independent(at least formally) branches of government. And now when the supervisory authority (State Council) turned over them, how do schoolchildren do their homework ??

Although, in principle, this is not at all ridiculous. The reason for the stagnation in the USSR and one of the claims to the country was the non-replaceable Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev. The USSR was destroyed, but the new Leonid Ilyich came.

[Amper]

This is not true. It has long been no longer the personality of the head of state that governs the country, it is usually just a generalizing image of a conglomerate of a group of real people embodying will, principles, finances, strength, etc. in government, more or less comfortable with all of them. After Stalin, Khrushchev transferred charismatic, tyrannical politicians. Their place was taken by the nominees Possessing real power. And in their activity they pursue the goals set by this group, farther and farther away from the welfare and prosperity of the People.

[Beringovsky]

Absolutely right.
Decisions are made not by Putin and not by the Duma - they are only executors and cover. Screen.
The problem is that we absolutely do not understand how the mechanism for making major decisions in the life of the country works, who the author is, how they are pushed, and so on.
And the picture with pompous Putin and the deputies applauding him - the picture is.

[kotvov]

Decisions are not made by Putin or the Duma,
The article says Putin and his environment. And I was said, the environment and Putin.

[Maj]

What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

Means that the USSR has demarcated completely.
Russia moved to the Asian part of the USSR, together with the former republics of Central Asia.
The rest of the former republics (including Azerbaijan) were transferred to the European part of the USSR.
There is nothing unexpected in this. Many European politicians wrote about this a long time ago. But before, there were some doubts about this. Now they are gone.

[Yu-81]

And more precisely - capital, through the puppet pridedent and the puppet parliament.
This is capitalism. When capital rules the country through its henchmen. And simpletons believe that there is democracy, elections, the president, parliament, and so on.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Amper

nominees Possessing real power

Here I absolutely agree with you! In the natural world, as a result of evolution, a protective coloration has developed in many animal species. In the human world, in a similar way, Real Power has learned to be invisible. They foment wars, remove presidents, and orchestrate public opinion. Evolution of power is evident

[Lexus]

In essence, Perestroika-2 begins.

Not otherwise, the laurels of the "marked", whom the devils in hell have been waiting for, do not give rest. Yes, and soon there will be nothing to ruin.

[GKS 2111]

A change of government only means strengthening financial discipline within the corporation of power and money. To fulfill social obligations, national projects need money. The rich will not take them. Markers of this: Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens. Given the inviolability of privatized (stolen from the people) property, the entire financial burden will again fall on Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.
Who would doubt it ...

[Lexus]

Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.

It can be shorter - "have".

[YOUR]

Quote: lexus

In essence, Perestroika-2 begins.

In fact, trampling on the spot continues.

[bessmertniy]

Why, trampling !? New people will come to the feeder, who must find some reserves of our economy, and due to this they will become very rich.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

No, dear bessmertniy, it will no longer be with a 99% guarantee. Everything has its time. There is reason to believe that the time allotted to the state, model 1991/1993. taxiing in the territory of the country of Russia And no precautionary measures will help him anymore. The rest is to wait .... ,, removal of the body ,,. Not funny? Not funny, because with a high degree of probability the country Russia will suffer. The state collapsed ,, RI ,, - citizens suffered, the state collapsed ,, USSR ,, - Soviet citizens suffered. Collapses ,, RK ,, （,, Capitalist Russia ,,） - suffer again, dear Russians ,,. ,, We are not guilty！ ,, Come on！ And who the elections ,, on the ground, falsified? Putin and Medvedev? Who in love for AUE explains with snot and tears of tenderness, under ,, chanson ,,? Prosecutor Seagull? Who in the regional media outrages the people of vulgarity and debauchery? Personally Soros? Most likely, on the neck, we get EVERYTHING. We’ll lose the territory, as usual, .... But, as they say: ,, What did they fight for ... ,, Have time to do something? But ,, dream ,, continues. We see everything. It doesn’t even reach the point that, for example, it’s ...

[Amper]

In fact, the fall continues into the abyss, at the bottom of which death and decay.

[YOUR]

I really would not want to. Better than new shocks.

[krops777]

I can agree with this ... a club of billionaires has formed in Russia ... a narrow group of people with extra income ... an extremely closed club of the elect for the public ... it’s very difficult to find out what’s going on in it ... occasionally information about them is drained but he instantly overlaps.

Alas, it is everywhere like this, in any country, and in time, regardless of system, views and belief that when people ran with clubs, that under the king, queen, pope, late USSR, etc., the dialectic of human nature however.

[Amper]

In vain banite. So it is. Not a single nation governs its state, not one state is nation-wide. As a rule, a state is ruled by Big Money to the extent of its decency or perversion (see mattresses as an example of the latter), or unprecedented greed, greed, illiteracy, as a local region, south, east .. It is surprising that Cuba, Vietnam are still alive ..

[krops777]

So it is. Not a single nation governs its state, not one state is nation-wide. As a rule, a state is ruled by Big Money to the extent of its decency or perversion (see mattresses as an example of the latter), or unprecedented greed, greed, illiteracy, as a local region, south, east .. It is surprising that Cuba, Vietnam are still alive ..

So I’m talking about that, but for some there’s one thing, because the oligarchs only in Russia and under Putin they don’t even want to hear the rest.

[naidas]

So that’s the question. The question is why the country went through Stalinist repressions in order to come to poverty. Now we are being driven into poverty and now we are asked to figure out what we will get money from on our table? What will happen to poverty, while quietly dying out.

[Million]

They are digitizing us for this. Soon, cash will probably be banned so that not a penny is hidden from the eyes of the state.

[depressant]

I agree with previous speakers and with the article as a whole. I would like to clarify the Author. "Long money" will not be given to prevent the formation of a group of new young industrialists who oppose the Putin clan and in the future may demand a share in the development of natural resources. Nobody will rise again, forget, clan heirs have grown up! The Equal Opportunity Society died before it was formed. At the same time, Putin's own clan, under the pretext of national projects, will continue to feed from the state budget, that is, from taxes from the stripped population, as well as from the fattening opposing oligarchic clan. The search for legislative instruments will continue, allowing - no, not to nationalize, but to redistribute the property of "enemies" in favor of "friends". The mention of citizenship is just the first sign. At the same time, Putin, as before, does not hesitate to put on the mask of the defender of the common people. While in fact the handouts thrown on January 15 to the people are a forced response to the discontent of foreign co-owners of retail chains due to the drop in income in 2019, gentlemen have seriously strained. And Putin does not care about demographics. He doesn't care who to rule - even the Russians, even the Tajiks. The latter are more convenient.

[Amper]

Putin has not been shy about anything for a long time.

[Beringovsky]

No one else rises, forget, the clan heirs have grown!

And here you are mistaken. The heirs are mostly spineless jerks, accustomed that everything is given without difficulty. Without dad they are not worth a penny.
When the daddies lose their grip from old age (and this time is just around the corner), their heirs will be devoured along with their diplomas of Harvard, MBA and so on. And with the aged daddies. They will also ask for supplements.
This is the problem of the current elite - there is no one to transfer power to.

[Deck]

Saltykov-Shchedrin about now
“I wanted something: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or the one to tear off someone.”

[phair]

Or pickles, roofing felts of the world revolution. A. White.

[let's say]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I believe that everything will be digitized by ordinary citizens

Mishustin is a technical figure. The main thing in the message is the abolition of the primacy of international law and the removal of the "agents" of its influence - officials with dual citizenship or a view of it.

[Same lech]

The main thing in the message is the abolition of the primacy of international law and the removal of the "agents" of its influence - officials with dual citizenship or a view of it

I'd like to believe in it ...

[Shelest2000]

What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

On this topic, I recalled a joke
- Dad, they raised the price of vodka, now you will drink less!
- No, son, it’s you and your mother who will eat less!

[NEXUS]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I believe that everything will be digitized by ordinary citizens ... all people's incomes and expenses will be kept under tight control ...

I am sure you are not far from the truth. The framework is the same, the electorate is more controlled.

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The complete uncertainty of the future ...

In this future, we, as servants ensuring the will of the elites and the safety of their capital, will sit on a shorter leash so that we do not kick and protest. 99% of people, not only in our country, but in the world, are beggars. As it does not hurt the ears of successful people, but it is. The elites want to arrange another artificial crisis, and all success will fly off these people very quickly. And they will close their enterprises, firms, offices, selling their acquired property in order to stay afloat. So the beggar is fed up when his uncle decides to give him some money. But just enough so that this beggar does not get on his feet, and so that he does not die of hunger.

[Victor N]

Making everyone pay taxes is in the public interest. After that, you can move on to differentiated personal income tax and even consider the possibility of lowering rates for certain types of taxes. In this order.
The exaggeration of the capabilities of the "elite" contributes to the formation of a squalor complex among the naive, simple-minded (oh, how many). There is no need to corrupt the people. He who feels himself a servant and a slave will never become the master of his own destiny, does not realize the deep essence of the concepts of "HONOR" and "DIGNITY".

[NEXUS]

Quote: Victor N

The exaggeration of the capabilities of the "elite" contributes to the formation of a squalor complex among the naive, simple-minded (oh, how many).

Dear, I have diminished their capabilities. What will you do if tomorrow they raise 10 times the utilities, gas, water, electricity, gas, etc.? Will you talk about the fact that all crises are to blame? Crisis, like prices in general, are artificial concepts. Answer me an elementary question: why did people during Brezhnev or Khrushchev pay pennies for gas, gas, and light, unlike today? Che, gasoline has become better at times, or maybe the water has become alive?

[depressant]

Victor n, you seem to be speaking correctly, but you do not take into account the fact of differentiation of people according to their natural abilities. Yes, many people are innocent, naive, incapable of energetic entrepreneurial spurts. And such - 90%. If we exclude natural sloths, then don't the majority of the rest of the "simple-minded" deserve to be good performers at a decent job and, accordingly, receive not humiliatingly small, but a decent salary? I witness how in the 90s, many of them, not understanding their own essence, overestimating themselves, believing in the widely distributed "society of equal opportunities", tried to become entrepreneurs, and some of them succeeded. But the 98-year default put everything in its place, throwing those who exceeded self-esteem out of business forever. And they never returned to it. But they didn't get a decent ordinary job either. This situation continues to this day. I would even say it is getting worse. As a result, many capable young people leave the country, often forever. In search of a worthy application of his, though not very great, but still strength and abilities. The understanding of the fact by the population also leads to a decrease in the birth rate. Why give birth if nothing shines for a child in life?

[naidas]

Quote: Victor N

Making everyone pay taxes is in the public interest

Excuse me, sir. But what about the scale of taxes, the rich pay less, VAT refunds for exporters, etc.

[Paul Siebert]

No adjustment!
The Russian elite is engaged in clearing the political situation in the country.
To protect yourself and your property.
The oligarchic skeleton of the state gains the quality of steel.
While the excited plebs screams new names of the desired ministers - the true masters of the country continue to steer.
Well, let's see how it ends. Distribution of elephants in the form of subsidies and increased payments for the Victory Day is a good thing, but short-lived.
We need understandable, strong-willed steps to create industry.
Not "Perestroika-2", but "Industrialization-2"
If there is no understanding in the new government that hypermarkets won’t win, then our future is bleak.
And no digitalization will help here!

[smart ass]

We quickly get rid of bank cards

[zenion]

Of course, an increase in welfare, if only the people could stand it.

[l7yzo]

They used to say - everything is on a pencil)
And shas - you are all recorded in the data center and described, everything that you say is recorded and will be used against you)))
True, one flash in the sun in the direction of the Earth and all transistors will burn out and stretch everything from the hard drives. Here, in theory, Medvedev also signed a law on the mandatory copying of documents on paper (for which he is grateful) - and it is still valid. And he really needs - so that a person can prove - that his hut, that money in his bank, etc. And if it happened that (a virus in the banking system, an e / magnetic storm or tsunami, an attack on the server - and the pipe)

[solzh]

Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens.

Pension reform needs to be canceled!
A progressive tax in the current economic condition of Russia should not be introduced. Instead, the tax burden on dividends should be increased.

Given the inviolability of privatized (stolen from the people) property, the entire financial burden will again fall on Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.

I have one conclusion: a return to the Soviet model of the economy. Only in this way can we raise the economy and industry of our state.

[Lexus]

I have one conclusion: a return to the Soviet model of the economy.

With these "barchuk"? Not for that, everything was taken apart and sold.

Only in this way can we raise the economy and industry of our state.

None of the "rowers" set and does not set such goals. Their descendants will have enough profits from the sale of the resources of the Russian land up to the fifth generation.

[Pessimist22]

Please explain to me, if the economy in the USSR was so powerful, why was it covered with a copper basin?

[About 2]

Because of the oligarchs of the former party and Soviet bosses who ruined it and then put it at the helm of a borus who brought Vova before leaving

[solzh]

Why did you decide that she covered herself? When labeled, they helped her, or rather they pretended that the economy had died. But in reality, we still, in most sectors, live at its expense and thanks to the backlog that was made during the Soviet era.

[Pessimist22]

Well, then give an example of a successful planned economy at the moment.

[solzh]

I am not interested in what and how there is abroad in terms of economy. They are not interesting to me. Moreover, in my opinion, only the USSR was able to build a real socialist economy.

[Squelcher]

"I have not read, but I condemn!"
Why? So why are you trying to constantly catch up?

[Edik]

Quote: solzh

I am not interested in what and how there is abroad in terms of economy. They are not interesting to me. Moreover, in my opinion, only the USSR was able to build a real socialist economy.

CCCP printed so much excess money supply that the economy simply covered itself! And it did not begin at all in 80 There was a lot of money, but there was nothing to buy! In the USA, such a number only rolls because they smear all the negative consequences of excessive money supply like oil to the whole world!
And about the prime minister, maybe we just wait and see how it works?
And then here the most gifted already doused him from head to toe!

[Edik]

Quiet minusers, have something to say, feel free to ...

[Roman070280]

about the prime minister, maybe we just wait and see how it works?
And then here the most gifted already doused him from head to toe!

A somewhat abstract example .. but quite clearly reflecting the situation ..
You're sitting in a cage .. with the rest of the slaves .. And I go to see it twice a day .. Then a healthy bull with a whip comes in, and according to my (previously given) instruction, it starts to whip you all ..
And now, after 10 years, suddenly some new bull comes in .. (the old one was either replaced or died .. it doesn’t matter) .. Everyone habitually dodges into the corner, and only you get up and say - maybe we just wait and see how will it work

PS .. do you really think that Medvedev was kept close for so many years (and even put above himself), and at the same time did not notice his work ?? Noticed .. but still kept .. Conclusion - everyone was happy with everything in his "work" !! ... Therefore, it is foolish to hope that tomorrow the new minister will suddenly throw aside the whip and become shoulder to shoulder with the rest of the slaves ..

[cradle]

What does China not like?

[Victor N]

The fact that you cannot make Russia from China no matter how hard you try.

[cradle]

But I wrote, what will we do? We have different roads. And the Chinese are not so good.

[smart ass]

I think if the USSR reduced spending on defense, got off the oil needle and allowed private business, maybe the economy of the USSR did not quack

[sergo1914]

Quote: Pessimist22

Well, then give an example of a successful planned economy at the moment.

You will be surprised, but any large multinational corporation. The little things with these worse.

[Victor N]

There is planning in corporations. And the "planned economy" is something completely different.

[Kamaz]

China

[naidas]

Quote: Pessimist22

Well, then give an example of a successful planned economy at the moment.

Better give an example where there is no planned economy and indicative planning.

[Edik]

Quote: solzh

Why did you decide that she covered herself? When labeled, they helped her, or rather they pretended that the economy had died.

But this is not true! After the Kosygin reforms in 1965, the economy began to die, when enterprises were allowed to make part of the countable rubles in cash! Which led it to stagnation and then collapse!

Quote: solzh

But in reality, we still, in most sectors, live at its expense and thanks to the backlog that was made during the Soviet era.

It would be strange if we lived on an American backlog!

[Edik]

Quote: Pessimist22

Please explain to me, if the economy in the USSR was so powerful, why was it covered with a copper basin?

This is not a convenient question for which you will not get an answer! You see, these people work under communist cover, that is, they are like patriots! But this is not true, they are not patriots, all they want to achieve is the Ukrainian scenario in Russia! For of interest, you can make out the slogans of Ukrainian pan-leguminous, they are one to one, the same
since the director is the same!

[Pessimist22]

Yes, I understand that the question is not convenient, they are not able to understand that socialism and a planned economy is a utopian idea.

[solzh]

Quote: Pessimist22

socialism and a planned economy is a utopian idea.

And what is the utopianism of socialism?
In a free and affordable education? In a free and affordable medicine? In the available resorts m holiday homes? Maybe utopianism is that the young specialist was given housing at the plant? Or is it utopianism that a person was sure that he would work in his profession? Or that he was sure of tomorrow? Maybe utopianism is that under socialism all people are brothers, not enemies? Maybe it’s Utopianism that there was no science and great scientists in the USSR? Or utopianism in sports complexes and other circles accessible to people, naturally free? Maybe utopianism is that the USSR did not have imported equipment, as it is now? So this, the lack of imported equipment, does not indicate utopianism, but the absence of economic dependence on the West.
As for the planned economy ... You will be surprised, but large Western companies all use the planned system.
So what is utopianism? Probably in a small amount of crime ...

[Pessimist22]

Suppose I agree with you, but where is everything that you listed? It has sunk into oblivion, such a system is not viable ...

[solzh]

It’s a matter, as it seems to me, of something else ... What exactly? I think that the USSR did not choose the right path of reforms. Agree that any political system lives only if it develops along the right path, where timely reforms, both political and economic, are needed. The hump, not respected by me, took the wrong path of "reforms", only because of a certain hostility to the Soviet system. I am sure that there would be another person in his place, we would still live in the USSR now and in a fairly successful and prosperous one. I repeat, the Soviet system was artificially “desecrated”, although it was very strong and healthy. Just tagged with his team for the sake of the West and at its filing, he declared that the Soviet system was not viable.

[Vadim237]

"I am sure there would have been another person in his place, we would still be living in the USSR and in a fairly successful and prosperous place." It would be the same, only they would not blame Gorbachev, but another person.

[victor50]

Quote: Pessimist22

Suppose I agree with you, but where is everything that you listed? It has sunk into oblivion, such a system is not viable ...

Who said forever? The capitalist RI in 1917 also sank, it seemed, forever. Yes, and even in some places. However, what now? Everything is back. Why is the fact of the fall of the USSR elevated to the rank of an indisputable given?

[Maj]

Quote: victor50

Capitalist RI

This is a strong expression.
Something like white soot. Or sweet salt.

Quote: victor50

RI in 1917 also sank, it seemed, forever.

And what, not forever? Forever.

Quote: victor50

Everything is back.

Nothing came back. Because he cannot return.

[victor50]

Quote: MJ

Quote: victor50
Capitalist RI

This is a strong expression.
Something like white soot. Or sweet salt.
Quote: victor50
RI in 1917 also sank, it seemed, forever.

And what, not forever? Forever.
Quote: victor50
Everything is back.

Nothing came back. Because he cannot return.

Amazing argument! Because - because!

[cradle]

nonsense, and you yourself understand this, but do not want to admit your wrong.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: solzh

Or that he was sure of tomorrow?

Sometimes so much that he could allow himself to be completely beaten to work ... and what - they wouldn’t fire him, they would put a minimum wage in any way ... why work?

Quote: solzh

that under socialism all people are brothers, not enemies?

Do not throw cheap propaganda materials: even under socialism, not all were "brothers", and even now not all are "enemies." Need examples? I have them.

Quote: solzh

the lack of imported equipment does not indicate utopianism, but the absence of economic dependence on the West

The problem was that Soviet household equipment (and not only everyday life, by the way ... but there it was most clearly seen) already somewhere in the 70s - 80s lagged behind the western ... forever

But in general - socialism of the late USSR model - it was such a greenhouse for indoor plants: they will provide you with light and water. At a minimum. What do you get - they will collect. To the maximum. Strongly grown - cut to not protrude.

I lived there, I remember everything. No need for agitation, robbed

[solzh]

Quote: Golovan Jack

The problem was that Soviet household equipment

But she was her own. Backward, tube, semiconductor or something else, but its own. We were not dependent on the West. Anyway, this is a very controversial moment, which and whose technique was better.

Quote: Golovan Jack

I lived there, I remember everything. No need for agitation, robbed

I also remember everything and I lived there too.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: solzh

this is a very controversial moment, which and whose technique was better

Consumer electronics, for example - Soviet definitely lost.

Quote: solzh

But she was her own

His, of course, does not smell ... but it was not always comforting, and not all.

Quote: solzh

I also remember everything and I lived there too

Well, how many people - so many opinions, it’s clear

[naidas]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Consumer electronics, for example - Soviet definitely lost

There was no attention, there were no small enterprises under Khrushchev, and the state was engaged in global issues.
Here is an example of a Panasonic NV-2000 video recorder since 1975, and our slammy recorder since 1982, the difference is 7 years. The US color TV was 15 years ahead of the USSR, but also France and England.

[solzh]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Do not throw cheap propaganda materials: even in socialism, not all were "brothers", and even now - not all are "enemies." Need examples? I have them.

And immediately agitation. This is not propaganda, it is the reality of that time.
I can give you a bunch of reverse examples.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: solzh

This is not propaganda, this is the reality of the time

This is a chatter. Well, is there anything to object to? This is the main thing, my friend:

Quote: Golovan Jack

by and large - socialism of the late USSR model - it was such a greenhouse for indoor plants: they will provide you with light and water. At a minimum. What you bring will be collected. To the maximum. Strongly grown - cut to not protrude

Is there no? Other things are somehow not even very interesting ...

[solzh]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Well, is there anything to object to?

Quote: Golovan Jack

by and large - socialism of the late USSR model

What does "late" USSR mean? Can you be more specific?
Which years are 1990, 1991, 1989 or some other years? If it’s a time of tagging, then what's the point of objecting to a situation that was created artificially?

Quote: Golovan Jack

Strongly grown - cut to not protrude

Yeah, ebn, there weren't any kravchuks, gaidars, gamsakhurdis and others who didn’t get their hair cut ... And in general, in the late USSR they didn’t cut anyone, on the contrary they helped to stick out ...

Quote: Golovan Jack

This is a chatter.

So be it. I don’t want to arrange a dispute because of this ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: solzh

What does "late" USSR mean? Can you be more specific?

From the 75th and on, at least. It is fully consistent with my definition. IMHO, essno.

Quote: solzh

ebn, different there Kravchuk, Gaidar, Gamsakhurdia and others did not cut something ...

System failure, yes, there has been. I didn’t talk about that, I explained above, sort of.

Actually, that's all. Good luck

[Edik]

Quote: solzh

And what is the utopianism of socialism?

The man did not formulate correctly, he meant the utopianism of communism! Will there be objections?

[solzh]

Quote: Edik

There will be objections

And I’m not going to. I’ll just say this: No one was able to prove the utopianism of communism. No one has proven that the theory of communism is false and absurd.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

But will there be a rationale for utopianism?

[Edik]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

But will there be a rationale for utopianism?

As Sergei correctly noted, communism is a beautiful theory! In practice, no one got there alive! I sympathize with a fair society, but society must first of all correspond to it! It must be highly moral and highly spiritual, which is impossible to achieve at this stage of human development.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Do you need communism tomorrow afternoon? This does not happen; 500 years have passed towards the current state of capitalism. And to capitalism itself, and even more so.

[Edik]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Do you need communism tomorrow afternoon?

I don’t believe in fairy tales! The state system must be superstable! From all risks, both external and internal! The USSR could not stand a century.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Ideal systems do not exist. If you are guided by your principles, a person would never have come down from a tree. Give you a stable system right away. Hand face.

[napalm]

Especially Japanese companies. And then the manuals release how to work correctly and secretly say that the foundation was taken from the USSR.

[naidas]

Quote: Edik

This is not a convenient question for which you will not get an answer!

Just a question of this type why after a hot summer, so cold in winter.
You can start from 1991, from 1985, from 1953, etc., read the memoirs, apart from Andropov, I somehow did not see anyone who wanted to pull the economy of the USSR. But there were already Medunov and Shchelokov who were under Brezhnev’s share.

[Vadim237]

Yes, because the Soviet Union put 120 countries on its neck since the 60s, inflated and pumped up the army with arms - an arms race, the plan could not cope with the volume of civilian production in view of the shortage of modern equipment and materials; in the 80s from this policy, the country began to run out of money in the USSR the end of the 80s became bankrupt.

[AEF]

Here you are, dear Pessimist22 (Igor), you ask a question with hidden sarcasm (?), pretend (?), or do you really not understand the real reason why the Soviet State was deliberately destroyed ???
Tell me yourself, how do you think, if - "the owner of the car operates it to the full in difficult conditions and under increased load, not performing its maintenance on time to change the oil in the engine, in the gearbox, does not monitor the level of the brake fluid, does not conduct the current repairs and drives on bald tires, and even a neighbor, out of envy, will pour some rubbish into the fuel tank "- how long will such a car safely and reliably work? I think that such a car is doomed to a major accident and the "owner" is in great trouble in the form of high costs for compensation for damage to the victims up to imprisonment if he himself remains alive. Any machine, (and even more so the state), will be destroyed if it is controlled, such as Gorbach and EBNoid, who acted in their own interests and deliberately destroyed the USSR.
This analogy is clear, very distant and primitive, indicates that only a very competent, prudent and far-sighted person can lead the State, a Patriot of his country with a capital letter, such as Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. Thanks to his incredible capacity for work and foresight, his patriotism and talent as a leader, the Soviet state quickly became a powerful world-class power. Bright memory to him !!!

[Pessimist22]

Nobody destroyed the USSR, the leaders were mired in corruption, and the planned economy came to a standstill, besides, the lies that the USSR was the best were refuted by clothes and equipment brought from abroad, our people were not stupid and perfectly understood all this masquerade, that's all.

[Odysseus]

Quote: solzh

I have one conclusion: a return to the Soviet model of the economy. Only in this way can we raise the economy and industry of our state.

This, of course, is true. But there is no need to experience illusions.
1) This requires a change of power. "Revolution from above" a la perestroika, but on the contrary, is impossible. A thief will never voluntarily give up the loot.
2) Even if it is possible to change power to a power aimed at the interests of the state and people, then it will have to start among the ruins and with very severe external influence .. At a level much lower than now
3) As a very bad, but very smart Chubais said, “our goal is to create irreversibility.” It is extremely difficult to revive the Soviet model of the economy. It can be based on modern realities, but it is very difficult. There is no production, no personnel, and most importantly now most people are vaccinated consciousness is "to consume here and now" and they are ready to do anything for this. What to do with all of them?

[bessmertniy]

A new generation of residents appeared, divided into masters and serfs, and under these conditions, the transition to a model similar to the one that was in the USSR is possible only through strong ideological influence. But with the ideologists we have - the seams. There are no popular politicians who would stand on the positions of socialism.

[Fan-fan]

And you watch the video about the state farm Grudinin, he was able to do a lot for people.

[Boris55]

Quote: Fan-Fan

And you watch the video about the state farm Grudinin, he was able to do a lot for people.

State farm Grudinin - consider it Moscow, he passed the hectare to a shopping center and nothing more needs to be done. I would look at him where the thread is in the outback, what would happen to him.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Boris55

I handed over a hectare to a shopping center and do not need to do anything else.

Even if was so, then Grudinin makes money for the benefit of people, in contrast to the Secheni, Chemezovs and Timchenko.
But the bulk of the state farm’s profit comes precisely from the production of agricultural products.

[Ros 56]

But what about the scandals with his collective farmers? Or are you with him for the chief accountant?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Ros 56

But what about the scandals with his collective farmers?

Are you talking about that aunt who tried to burn herself to the public? So there is not everything as they say on the box.

[Edik]

Quote: Boris55

handed over a hectare to a shopping center

Boris rather pressed the shareholders!

[solzh]

Tagged came to power from the CPSU. Suppose that a team with pro-Soviet views appears in the current government, which will begin in stages to move on to the Soviet system of the economy. Or a new party will appear, let's call it conditionally Soviet, which will come to power as a result of fair elections. Most likely they can start with the nationalization of natural resources; micro and small businesses will not touch. I will put things in order with education and the banking sector, I can’t model exactly how the banks will act, I don’t have enough knowledge). The oligarchs will try something there, but there is experience on the example of the same Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky.

Quote: Odyssey

the main thing now most people are instilled with the consciousness "to consume here and now" and they are ready for anything for this.

Not to everyone, but to many.
But even with a gradual return to the Soviet system, they will not suffer if politicians and economists do everything wisely and not wave a saber.

[bessmertniy]

I believe that betting on renegades in this matter is the last thing. Until a new generation of revolutionaries appears, liberal reformers will reign.

[Icarus]

Suppose that a team with pro-Soviet views appears in the current government

- Utopia.

Or a new party will appear, let's call it conditionally Soviet, which will come to power as a result of fair elections

Fair elections ??? And in order for the elections to be fair, what must happen first? For a "Soviet Party" to come to power?
This organized crime group (elite) will not voluntarily give up power, and do not even rely on semi-fair elections.

[Ros 56]

And what is the Soviet party? It’s not whether you mean the Communist Party, because it was never Soviet.

[Icarus]

This is not my term "Soviet party", it was used by solzh (Sergei), in the comment above. I realized that this is a conditional party (not yet existing).

[solzh]

Quote: Icarus

I realized that this is a conditional game (not yet existing).

That's right. There is no such party and most likely will not be. By the Soviet party, I meant a certain conditional party, with communist principles, but not the Communist Party, which, in my opinion, discredited itself from the rejection of socialism.

[naidas]

Quote: solzh

They can probably start with the nationalization of natural resources.

God forbid, we have such personnel in state-owned enterprises, everything will fall apart.

[Boris55]

Quote: Odyssey

This requires a change of government. "Revolution from above"

We study the experience of Comrade. Stalin, as he carried out a "revolution from above" in 1924, removed the Trotskyists from government and transferred economic affairs to the Council of People's Commissars (Sovnarkom).

Quote: Odyssey

then she will have to start among the ruins and with very severe external influences ..

If you go the way "to the bottom, and then", then yes. But there is another way to change power - from below. If the lower classes do not want, then the upper classes cannot. That's why the bourgeoisie, introducing 20 free channels of digital TV (and this is when each of them chokes for a penny), they spent so much money on fooling people that we would not have thought that we didn’t want something there.

Quote: Odyssey

It is extremely difficult to revive the Soviet model of the economy.

The difference between the Soviet and bourgeois economies is the ownership of property and the distribution of income. This issue may well be solved by lawmakers in the working order.

And by the way, what about the president’s initiative to amend the Constitution. The president has exactly the same legislative initiative as each of the 450 deputies.

As regards chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution, only the constitutional assembly has the right to amend them, the law on which the deputies do not want to adopt, they have already tried for the 4th time. Neither the president nor the deputies have the right to amend these chapters.

ps
- The president cannot initiate a referendum.
- The president determines the general direction of the country, and if the Duma appoints a new prime minister, ministers who do not agree with what the president has determined and lead the country in the other direction, what will happen in 1993?

[Monster_Fat]

"Perestroika"? There will be no special "restructuring". In the face of the "new" prime minister, the government will steer .... Kudrin, if so, the construction of "kudrinomics" and further "tightening of the tax-controlling screws" for the population will continue.
Everything will be done in order to put citizens and their income and expenses under the full control of the state, in order to withdraw any "extra" penny from people, to deprive them of economic independence, to make them completely dependent on the "handouts" of the state, which can be receive only for "good behavior", the population will continue to lend for the very "I can not" - in order to thereby deprive them of their will, the desire to defend their rights, the desire for changes, to make them mindlessly work for the owner and the banker, a system of total will be created and introduced " digital "control over any actions of citizens, that is, in the end everything will be done in order to put citizens in the position of" units "fully controlled by the digital state.
... I will not tire of recalling the basic postulates of "kudrinomics" so that people understand what kind of economy and what kind of system are being built in Russia and what awaits them in the future:
"1-banks are primary in the economy and therefore the main and constant support of the state - for them, 2-no state property, all state property should be privatized, in order to reduce government spending on managing this property and remove state guarantees to personnel as an employer, everything should be shifted on the "private owner-owner", 3- "direct financing" is harmful-any financing only through credit, credit (loan interest) is the basis of the entire financial system, 4-it is necessary to withdraw all "extra" money from the economy and accumulate it abroad for " the convenience of "their" movement ", the development of the economy only through external borrowing and external investment, and through internal, bank loans, 5-wages - the remuneration of any labor should, under any conditions, be maintained at the lowest level, the lowest level of all surrounding countries, to ensure the attractiveness of the labor market for entrepreneurs and foreign investors,6- cutting all social programs to a minimum -citizens of the country must pay for everything themselves, and preferably through a loan, for the constant "feeding" of banks, 7-cash must be withdrawn from circulation and the turnover of any penny must be accountable and controlled by the state and must pass through banks for the functioning of the banking system, 8- citizens should not have their own “free” money, any accumulation of money by citizens is unacceptable, money must “work”, that is, be only in banks, so that banks can maintain and build up their capital and invest them wherever they see fit. In order for citizens to be unable to accumulate money, that is, to become economically independent from banks, employers and the state, it is imperative to set interest rates on citizens' deposits below the inflation rate, for the gradual "burning" of their money, 9 citizens must be maximally credited, with one on the other hand, it provides constant replenishment of the banking system and withdraws free money from the pockets of citizens in favor of banks, and on the other hand, it improves the government's governance by citizens - a credited citizen thinks more about how to get money to pay off a loan, and thinks less about something else, also credited the citizen is more compliant in the labor market. 10-required free conversion of the ruble through exchanges. 11 - no prohibitions on the "export" of capital - capital must have free "movement" precisely abroad - this is one of the principles of the economy's attractiveness for foreign investment, 12 - The Labor Code should be written in such a way that the interests of the employer are primary, the state must completely get rid of regulation on the labor market, all regulation should be reduced to an agreement between the employer and the employee, 13- social guarantees to citizens from the state should be minimal, in the long term it is necessary to remove them altogether from the jurisdiction of the state, shifting to "private", "charitable funds ". 14-pension provision should be reformed so that the share of state payments would not exceed 25%, the rest of the amount should be formed by "accumulation funds" and the pensioner himself throughout his life - in the future, the participation of the state in pension programs should be completely eliminated, being reduced only to legal support, 15-any "recommendations" of the IMF and international financial regulatory bodies are not discussed, but carried out, since they are the only correct ones and ensure the functioning of the world financial system, where Russia is embedded, therefore, the interests of the world financial and economic system should prevail on “internal »The interests of Russia, 16- to ensure migration attractiveness by attracting as many migrants as possible and removing all sorts of barriers to the arrival of migrants, but only those migrants that cost business and the state as cheaply as possible, to replace the" expensive "internal labor force, etc.
Recently, power circles have been very impressed with China's success in building a completely state-controlled society and they wanted the same in Russia. Therefore, the heads of the Russian leadership were occupied with the idea of ​​building an "effective state" based on digital technologies and - "automation of state management processes based on new digital technologies." In RIO "Katyusha" this is called the construction of an "electronic-digital concentration camp". So the notorious "perestroika" will go exactly in the direction indicated by RIO "Katyusha".

[Vadim237]

Kudrin remained in the Accounts Chamber and he does not accept any economic programs, only expresses his point of view on them.

[Icarus]

Kudrin remained in the Accounts Chamber and does not accept any economic programs; he only expresses his point of view on them

. Mishustin is a Kudrin man.

[AEF]

"Monster_Fat (Yes What Difference) Today, 11: 46
"Perestroika"? There will be no special "restructuring". In the face of the "new" prime minister, the government will steer .... Kudrin, if so, the construction of "kudrinomics" and further "tightening of the tax-controlling screws" for the population will continue.
Everything will be done in order to put citizens and their income-expenses under the full control of the state .........."
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If everything turns out as you described, then why did VVPutin "embark on the path of confrontation with the West." It would have been easier for him to come to an agreement with them and fulfill all their requirements and not to worry about "increasing the birth rate and fighting poverty."
I agree with you in a sense that there are some elements in the internal policy of VVPutin " "kudrinomics" and further "tightening of the tax-controlling screws" for the population. " But only in terms of increasing tax collection, adhering to financial discipline, building vertically integrated financial and industrial groups (such as Glavkov under I.V. Stalin), and also elementary providing the population with necessary products and goods. And all this is impossible without ensuring the sovereignty of the state, which today must be protected. For this, the military-industrial complex and the Armed Forces are again revived.
Let's see what will be new in the Constitution, and who will lead the finances and economies in the new government

[Victor N]

No socialist or welfare state can be built from orthodox positions. Putin proposed another step towards strengthening the welfare state. Forget about "scientific communism" for a minute and you will understand the present day. And the past too.

[NEXUS]

Quote: solzh

I have one conclusion: a return to the Soviet model of the economy. Only in this way can we raise the economy and industry of our state.

The Soviet model also did not justify itself, otherwise the USSR would still have stood to this day. And no one else accepted this model.
In general, caste in wealth, status, and so on in itself gives rise to discrimination of some, more successful and enterprising over others. It has already been instituted for many hundreds of years. The main Evil that gives rise to these excesses is money that was invented just to control us, farm laborers, because the elites essentially do not need money, since they themselves are the masters of money. As much as they want, they will print as much for themselves.
They never wondered, why do billionaires have so much money that they multiply every day? They won’t spend it all the same for their life, just like their grandchildren. But then why? 90% of the money supply is located at these very nouveaux riches, and we get crumbs, just so as not to die of hunger and have the illusion freedom and prosperous life.

[Nikolaevich I]

Well .... alas, but that's right! Unfortunately, most of the people are “silent”! There is no understanding that “delay is like death”! The country has practically no time left! It is necessary to act very urgently, to actively resist the meanness of the ruling power (!) ... otherwise, we are all "krendets" ... and the country too! The people need to be given a clear understanding of the goal, to give a plan of action ... they need leaders, they need "weapons" (not small arms, but "political"!) That is why it is urgent to "look for" means of counteraction to the regime, use the already known and take them into service! It is necessary to support the opposition in those cases when its demands or accusations are fair! You need to look for, choose leaders, and for this you need to "look closely" to "candidates for their role" ... to analyze their words, actions, their words and actions in the past, and the past itself!

[Same lech]

It is necessary to act archy urgently, actively resist the meannesses of the ruling power (!) ...

Wait for an answer from the authorities for the urgent calls to act ... knock ... knock ... the FSB guys will knock on your door with an invitation to a preventive conversation.

[Nikolaevich I]

I do not call to take up firearms, and I do not even call to throw stones at representatives of the authorities and law enforcement agencies! I am for the actions permitted by the existing legislation and the constitution! Representatives of the current government like, on occasion, to "emphasize" that this was earlier, in the USSR, any dissent was persecuted ... and "now" - freedom, democracy, pluralism of opinions! Or totalitarianism in Russia, "worse than in the USSR"? And finally ... tired of being "patient"! As it was once said, "we are not slaves, we are slaves ..."!

[demo]

Under the USSR, dissent was prosecuted quite openly.
All those who thought "against the government" were assigned to a medical institution or to places of imprisonment.
The same story is happening today.
Only today, dissent is uprooted either by tying an article for theft, organizing a criminal community, abuse of power, or pushing a person out of the country.

[Fan-fan]

Or take away the latter, as in Grudinin.

[cradle]

Well, what are you rushing about with this Grudinin? Who is he to you? Nedokommunist, a liar ... Why AO state farm. Lenin has not flourished where the thread in Perm? Huh?

[AEF]

" Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) Yesterday, 05:22
Well .... alas, but that's right! Unfortunately, most of the people are “silent”! There is no understanding that “delay is like death”! The country has practically no time left! It is necessary to act very urgently, to actively resist the meanness of the ruling power (!) ... otherwise, we are all "krendets" ... and the country too! The people need to be given a clear understanding of the goal, to give a pla ........"
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I agree with you for all 10000%. And at the expense of the fact that the people are inactive and that time is running out. Our people are very passive and there is also a danger that it might turn out like "we wanted the best, but it turned out as always." As some politician says, "the revolution is made by enthusiastic patriots for good purposes, and the fruits are used by scoundrels and scoundrels."
Well, I can’t believe in any way that GDPutin does not understand that any other variant of the state’s economic system, except Socialism, will lead the country to a logical impasse.
Even the most "bright capitalist city on the hill" has hit the "ceiling of its development" and has already dangled his leg into the abyss, still clinging to those who follow them in an attempt to keep from collapse.
Because initially, it is known a priori that the economic system, which is based on interest on loans as a means of enrichment - leads to immeasurable spending and depletion of stocks of material and raw materials in order to maintain the rate of profit growth, in competition for sales markets. As a result, competition among producers leads to the emergence of large monopolists, bankers who buy politicians, governments, and appoint their presidents. The strong destroy or consume the weak. There is a gradual degradation of the entire system of power and an increase in expenses for its preservation. As a result, there is no turning back, no one wants to "get off the horse", but "a mustang for two will not stand" ........ Etc., etc.
And then, as it were, an idea arises: - .... so it is necessary to make this competition manageable and limit the appetites of monopolies, and thin out the banking system, enlarge banks, take financial management into state hands .........! That is, the state must intervene and regulate all "production and financial" processes in order to preserve itself.
Well, I'm exaggerating so rassusolivat. And why all this crap ????
The most correct and without a dead end State Economic System - The system created by IV Stalin - Soviet Socialism !!!
Now detractors criticized here, such as why, then, the USSR fell apart. Such critics are not able to think for themselves, but only repeat what they were driven into the head by opponents of the Soviet Union.
Khrushchev canceled all the Stalinist decisions of the party and government on the construction and development of the state’s production and economic base, which marked the beginning of the fading of the country's economic power and sovereignty.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: AEF

the economic system, which is based on loan interest as a means of enrichment, leads to immeasurable spending and depletion of inventories of material and raw materials in order to maintain profit growth, in competition for sales markets

Quote: AEF

Khrushchev canceled all the Stalinist decisions of the party and government on the construction and development of the state’s production and economic base, which marked the beginning of the fading of the country's economic power and sovereignty.

With both hands "FOR"! With these words, you perfectly expressed the "essence of what is happening" in the world and, in particular, in Russia! The country is intensively developing (extracting) natural resources, most of which cannot be used within the country and for the needs of the country! These "attempts" are necessary to sell "on the side" resources and get money ... money that cannot be obtained in any other "economic way", as a result of a weak economy and impoverishment of the population ... money necessary to maintain the ruling regime of power, and not for the development of the same economy! Moreover, it is "bashfully silent" that in this way the future generations of the nation are being robbed ..., but the ruling regime acts according to the principle; "after us, even a flood!"

[Ross xnumx]

What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

Rebuild is not difficult,
only here is the trouble:
"Yes?"
You can rebuild the face,
Well, the soul - never!

Putin did not take the step that would bring his political addiction to the aspirations of the people.
Shuffling a ministerial deck, lack of a logical explanation for pension reform, an attempt to buy a happy childhood ...
He would have to ponder why the 30-year period of the "clan" rule was marked by the only period of population decline in the history of the country, but he "figured out" how to spend 34 from the NWF ...
It’s really interesting to look at children whose parents work all day, and grandparents pensions of death...
And with taxes we are "good", and with work everything is in order, and people are kind and sympathetic - but somehow it did not work out ... The fourth term is running out, but the bottom has not been groped ...

[Thrifty]

During the hunchback in the USSR, there were three stages of "re" - "perestroika", "skirmish", and for the survivors "roll call"! How does it say that history does not tolerate stress, and likes to repeat itself? ??

[bessmertniy]

That's the reform for our politicians and economists - in order to catch fish in troubled waters. People suffer from reforms, but they get fat and get rich.

[About 2]

Another defamation from Vova and company. The promise of a mountain of results is zero, as always happens to him!

[nikvic46]

Emotions aside, we see the following picture. The Council of Ministers is dissolved. This is a common practice for all states. If a person has exhausted his ideas, he must leave. Social security. "Every beggar comes to the prince's court. Eat food, take money .." But that was so long ago. Nowhere do I see the percentage for social services from the budget. You just have to work, arrange your life.

[Chaldon48]

Read the work of Herbert Wells "Russia in the Dark" and a lot will become clear.

[Van 16]

Our Herbert Wells also has a Time Machine, remember? About Eloi and Morlocks. Such a future would never come ...

[Chaldon48]

If you keep in mind Russia, it’s unlikely that it will come to mass cannibalism, the mentality is not the same, but mass terror on both sides is also highly undesirable.

[Monster_Fat]

If we talk about the article, then the influence of "Khazin" is felt in it ... Do you think if the "siloviki" win, it will be better? Well, well ... I'm afraid that then "City-17" will be the future of Russia:

Something tells me that the times of the "saints of the 90s" and "the time of the Medvedev government" will soon be perceived by most of the population with nostalgia.

[parusnik]

Medvedev in this scenario is a candidate for the role of the new president.

..... There is no need to hurry with this conclusion ... Options are possible ... And the resignation went beautifully, Medvedev immediately realized that he could not pull the task of providing schoolchildren with hot meals .... I once read that a draft was submitted to the State Duma about allowing a larger number of parties to the elections, the essence of the votes obtained by parties that did not pass 5% was proportionately divided between parties that passed the 5% barrier .. As far as this is true, I can’t say but anything is possible ...

[bessmertniy]

And where today to find so many fools to win the election !!! ??? Do not tell a cat.

[parusnik]

But there’s nothing ridiculous .... Russia has registered about 70 parties, let 40 of them be allowed before the election, most of them will not pass the 5% barrier, but the votes will go to those parties that constantly overcome this barrier ... That is ... you don’t want to vote for the EP, the Communist Party, the SR, the Liberal Democratic Party .. please vote for others, but your votes will be returned to those for whom you voted against ...

[Fan-fan]

And why were you going to feed only from 1st to 4th grade? What in the 5th or 6th grade is not necessary to eat

[Victor N]

You will not please you. Tea, not orphans. However, if you still raise the retirement age, then you can feed before graduation. Here it is necessary to choose: either spend money on the elderly, or on children. Together, there will not be enough able-bodied forces, because, as political economy teaches, they are producers of material assets, and all the rest are dependents.

[Odysseus]

The author is inclined to some theatricality, but on the whole everything is written correctly and extremely boldly.
Within the framework of the existing system, the authorities cannot even afford a virtual reshuffle of persons (Yeltsin-Putin), Putin simply cannot leave power without losing property, and not only property of his own, but of his entire clan. Therefore, we are doomed to an illegal "transfer" ...
Its implementation associated with the rebalancing of the branches of government and the creation of an authority "under Putin" in conditions when the state is extremely socially and territorially divided, and the quality of management personnel is below any criticism (since their motivation is associated only with generating income) threatens to completely disintegrate management. will push the whole structure and it will collapse.
But I do not agree with the author in complete pessimism. The dismantling of the post-Soviet mafia power in the Russian Federation is historically inevitable, but the "death of civilization and the people" is not at all predetermined.
"Where danger lurks, opportunity is always hidden."

[kjhg]

Quote: Odyssey

The dismantling of the post-Soviet mafia power in the Russian Federation is historically inevitable, but the "death of civilization and the people" is not at all predetermined.
"Where danger lurks, opportunity is always hidden."

I think so too. The people of Russia are like a child born in 1990. At first we did not understand anything, how to continue to live? The old way of life was crumbling before our eyes, and we had to create a new image ourselves, as best we could. Not everyone could. Millions died, unable to adapt to the new life, to find their place there. When Putin came to power, we were at "school age". As schoolchildren, we listened with great optimism to all his speeches, promises, plans. Now the people of Russia have become adults, and after the retirement robbery they are also realists. Now we can correctly assess the existing system, its rulers and masters. When we massively take to the streets of our cities, we will have no illusions, as in the 90s, when we were deceived like babies. Will such a people be doomed to perish because of this? Not at all. Rather, the opposite is true. This will become a new level of development when the people of Russia take their fate into their own hands.
The death of Russia is possible if we cannot unite, go out and take our country into our own hands.

[Victor N]

You can take it, just then do it? Having lost the owners of the enterprise, they will stand up. Oh, oh, oh .......

[NordUral]

I agree with everything, but not with doom, Odysseus.

[demo]

Thus, “Perestroika-2” is an attempt by Putin and his entourage to preserve the former system, modernize it somewhat, make it more stable in order to survive the upcoming new wave of global unrest with the development of the scenario of a major war in the Middle East.

Those. the author makes a conclusion about the change in the internal structure of the state only in connection with "a new wave of global turmoil, with the development of a scenario of a big war in the Middle East"?
Strongly twisted.
And the president’s internal rating drop?
And the growth of social tension in society?
And the impoverishment of the population?
But the robbery of the people by internal and external corporations?
And the lack of a clear and understandable policy aimed at strengthening the state?
And what about the policy of "conciliation and indulgence" of all - "young and old", expressed in the rewriting of history?
A.......?
A couple of thousand more A's.

Author.
It is necessary to take the presentation of the material more seriously.
Or abandon ill-conceived and unreasoned statements.

That is not why Putin started "Perestroika 2."
Those commitments made by the new president’s team in 2000 are far from fulfilled.
All contracts and obligations (according to knowledgeable people) are signed for 50 years.
So the guy and his followers "hunchback in the galleys" for another thirty years.
Well, we live with them and under them.
If there is no trouble, but internal.
Which will sweep them to hell.
That's for this and started moving furniture in a fun house.
Instead of changing staff.

The analysis of steps for the last 5-7 tapes suggests the opposite.
The president is terrified that he will be overwhelmed with either his own or the people.
He fears the first more than the second.

[Doktor vatson]

The recipe is simple ::
1. Return resources to state ownership;
2. Return the Central Bank to the state and its obligation to answer for the debts of that state;
3. To exclude from the legislation articles relating to the limitation period, thereby stopping the temptation itself to violate the law and conduct privatization.

Only there is no Lenin, but rather Stalin ......

[Gardamir]

Please, don’t need either about Lenin or Stalin. If Stalin had registered here, they would have driven him into the skulls, both of them.

[NordUral]

Gardamir! It’s not worth talking for everyone.

[New Year day]

Everything to preserve personal and clan power. For the people - everything is still.

[g_ae]

The article is topical. I just started talking about the "millennial Russian world". There is no Russian world. There has not been and will not be with the present. You will revise the message. And look closely at the physiognomy of those sent and the sender. Comments are superfluous. Decomposition and degradation. What nafig "Russian world" ?!

[samarin1969]

Quote: g_ae

The article is topical. I just started talking about the "millennial Russian world". There is no Russian world. There has not been and will not be with the present. You will revise the message. And look closely at the physiognomy of those sent and the sender. Comments are superfluous. Decomposition and degradation. What nafig "Russian world" ?!

There is really little left of the Russian world after 1917, 1941, 1991. Its remains were in the trenches of Donbass in 2014-2016. And in the "faces" on TV it is not. But the people of the Russian World are still there.

[g_ae]

Who can argue. There are still people, but there is no world. There are people and the Indian world in America. And about the "millennial" is not worth talking about. This is as funny as the "proto-ukry".

[7,62x54]

Promises robbery, nothing more

[Van 16]

I really don't like the word "perestroika" ..

[Ross xnumx]

Perestroika-2
Thus, “Perestroika-2” is an attempt by Putin and his entourage to preserve the former system, modernize it somewhat, make it more stable in order to survive the upcoming new wave of global unrest with the development of the scenario of a major war in the Middle East.

Perestroika - 2
"Hey, comrade, end your tantrum! Step on a new rake. We will definitely overtake America, If we first catch up with Zimbabwe" Mayakovsky

Behind the thick Kremlin walls
Far from the hustle and bustle
In a warm office chair
Putin was pondering the “Duma.”

Claims among the people of "thousands",
Evaluation of the economy - "deuce".
Ratings feel the bottom ...
The country needs adjustment.

But how to do it all
So that the Duma appreciates diligence?
So that I’m not “borzoi” at all
I will send a message to them.

I will describe it in detail
With numbers and percentages,
How to give birth conveniently
With such dividends.

Add five thousand to the teacher
For the leadership of the class.
Young schoolchildren
Free feed at once.

Health Protection and Universities -
Add a bit of finance.
Clean up the government
From different foreigners there.

And to rule forever
In the form of direct restitution
Work and change
Constitutional provisions.

And proceed immediately
Without any “crap” - smartly!
The government of the "hateful" Medvedev
We change to the government of Mishustin ...

Invented soon, and right there
The country began restructuring.
Stop smearing the snot! ”
Yes, and howling can you already?

End your tantrum
Step on a new rake!
Catch up with China and America !!!
If we catch up with Zimbabwe ...

[sgapich]

"Hey, comrade, end your tantrum! Step on a new rake. We will definitely overtake America, If we first catch up with Zimbabwe" Mayakovsky

True, during the time of Mayakovsky, the country was called Southern Rhodesia.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: sgapich

True, during the time of Mayakovsky, the country was called Southern Rhodesia.

This epigraph is a replica review with YUOTUBE.
Even when I taught geography at school (this was after Mayakovsky’s death) it was called Southern Rhodesia ...

[Gardamir]

Well, firstly, in short, now the preservation of personal power, under the cover of supposedly all according to the law.
Secondly, we like to call everyone liberals, without hesitation. But Kudrin and Medvedev are on opposite sides of Putin. Relatively speaking, Mishustin, who came, is Kudrin.
Well, in the third, there is a war of sharing. Up there, they showed each other who the boss was, and I and another 200 people were left with nothing. By the way, the defenders of the current government, this was impossible in the Union.

[samarin1969]

All these "strengthening the role ..." under the Constitution are not obvious to most people. In order to give legitimacy and "popular approval" they are going to hold some kind of "incomplete referendum". For the sake of turnout, they threw "gingerbread" to doctors, teachers, mothers, etc. The people created the image of a single package of promises: "Vote - you won't get atoms!" The promise was not scary. Mr. Mishustin will then "adjust" everything through "optimization", etc. He really knows how.

ps The President's cheerful appearance is not yet a guarantee of political stability. The list of domestic "degradations" from Mr. Samsonov is not invented. And the consequences are already manifesting themselves in engineering, intelligence, education and medicine, etc. Medvedev's team can simply "dump", as Azarov did in Ukraine in time.
The marker will be a quiet mass sale of large blocks of shares.

[NordUral]

The marker will be a quiet mass sale of large blocks of shares.

Messages flash. that it has already begun quietly. The latter is being privatized, sold over a hill and dumped. One thing is forgotten - Ostap Bender ended badly after crossing the Romanian, I do not remember exactly, border.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

What the fuck is the hill? Are you completely insane there? Where do you just come from, waist-high wooden. Aren't you tired of repeating the same game year after year? You would at least follow the events. Dump to be cleaned up there?

[NordUral]

The information bypasses you, it seems, about how many of them are already there, and I won’t even talk about property. Look for yourself. And reduce your tone, my friend.

[Vadim237]

I’m sorry I would not call the stake in six companies 390 billion rubles large, since the cost of each such company is several trillion rubles.

[NordUral]

I’m sorry I would not call the stake in six companies 390 billion rubles large sincethe cost of each such company is several trillion rubles.

Vadim - that's all you said, the very essence.

[Vadim237]

I wrote to you about the cost of a part of the block of shares of six companies - no one will completely sell the company and it is still unknown whether these blocks of shares will be bought at all.

[NordUral]

And I, Vadim, wrote that they would sell it cheaply, as before.
And they will not sell it only if the people oppose it. But he seems to be on the drum.

[Vadim237]

They won’t go anywhere because account sanctions were imposed on them in the west and property can now be instantly arrested.

[NordUral]

Dreaming, though not harmful, but criminal, Vadim. Although you can take what is sick of them.

[rocket757]

Conclusion - they hope for the best, who else can / wants it.
Getting ready for the worst, that’s all who can and who don’t want.
Anyone have other options ???

[NordUral]

Go to the polls and vote headlong. Then we will win. And they will try to prevent the will of the people, that is - we warned you.

[rocket757]

Quote: NordUral

Go to the polls and vote headlong.

There is nothing to argue about, NECESSARY!

Quote: NordUral

Then we will win.

The question ... is complicated, because many will have different goals, but ONE will win!

Quote: NordUral

And they’ll try to interfere with the will of the people,

The system of present elections can change little, all the more fundamentally.
The division of the upper power between one or the other ... we choose the less bad, there is NO other.

[NordUral]

We will win if a team comes with one goal - to raise the country.

[rocket757]

"Will you please announce the entire list?"
Unfortunately this is not a rhetorical question.
I don’t want to raise a dispute, especially since this is an eternal topic, at the moment there are NO such.

[NordUral]

This is still a big question, but they are trying to unite. I think that will succeed, since the actions of the authorities contribute to understanding the need for consolidation.

[rocket757]

Quote: NordUral

This is still a big question, but they are trying to unite. I think that will succeed, since the actions of the authorities contribute to understanding the need for consolidation.

I do not like making mistakes ... but this is the case when it would be better if I were mistaken!
Let's wait and see what will happen and how.
We still do not plan other options.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Just fabulous stupidity. You would be ashamed of carrying such an avatar.

[Victor N]

Don’t scare yourself! Everything is as always: rely only on yourself. It is simple and straightforward. No need to fool yourself.

[rocket757]

Himself, himself .... in a position for himself, in the end, they never win. With his would stay.
This is not a fright, it is a statement of fact.

[NordUral]

I've been doing this all my life, Victor. And I urge others to do so. That is, to act, and not sit out in the bushes.

[rocket757]

Everyone chooses how to behave.
Someone in the mine to cut a little coal, someone to vote in the stands.
One thing is for sure, you must go to the polls, even when they are without a choice, like!
So that I do not forget how to live the life of the country, so that they do not vote for you, and indeed, it would not be superfluous to use the reasoning in the case!

[NordUral]

The people do not go, Victor, here are the results. We must vote at least once by all the people, then we will see what and how. And to arrange control on sites hard.

[rocket757]

The voter does not go to elections, this is typical for a developed industrial society. People are disunited, "smarter" ie. educated and don't believe ... in many things they stopped believing.
In Russia, faith in OWN deputies was greatly undermined when they changed the principle of nominating candidates ..... the right was taken away from labor collectives, everything went according to the territorial principle! Then, many things were taken away from the collectives, but they weren’t given to anyone ... The party bureaucracy created a system that practically cut it off from the will of the people!
This is a natural process! In almost the same way, the system of power SAVES itself.

[NordUral]

Life will force, Victor, or to the elections, or to the barricades.
You can also just stupidly for slaughter, which is now happening.

[rocket757]

Everything has its beginning and end. The period in the gap is not small.
Life, of course, will force ... only at the top not all the fools are not literate, they studied history! They know how to smear, stir up so that a person loses landmarks and does not see a bright, correct idea behind the fog.

[NordUral]

And what, the "tyrant" of Grozny immediately "cruelly tortured" him? Nothing of the kind - "bailed" Metropolitan Cyril and the three eminent boyars. Somehow unlike the “bloody paranoia” that they have been trying to tell us about for so many years. Rather - excessive mercy, which later came back with "Time of Troubles."

From one publication, and as reminds the present and recent, for those who are in my age, time.

Yes, the upper ones are not stupid.
So I still have hope.

[rocket757]

One reliable thing can not be moved off the ground.
We need a systematic, hard work to disperse the fog in general and in the brains of citizens, first of all.

[NordUral]

What am I talking about, Victor? This is the task of the leaders of the patriotic opposition. Get out of YouTube to a wide open space or go down to the sinful earth and already here convince the unreasonable and lazy.

[rocket757]

They go, meet, agitate ... not much, but there is, this is in addition to the Internet information field.
BUT, since a lot of communication crawled into the virtual web network, not a single normal public organization, party, movement can be organized! Politics creeps in there ... even drinking bouts can be arranged each at his own table! The accessibility of communication, virtual, separates people more than unites them.
Even in bulk, like a young, active, aggressive environment, in fact, when you need to pack up and rub your elbows, it dissolves into ... don’t understand where, like morning fog!
About the rest of the people, there’s nothing to say about sales ... until you sneak, while there is nothing to pay for light and the Internet, things will not move from the dead center!

[NordUral]

About the rest of the people, there’s nothing to say about sales ... until you sneak, while there is nothing to pay for light and the Internet, things will not move from the dead center!

It seems that we are in solidarity with this.

[antiaircrafter]

this is a continuation of the irremovable power of one person in Russia

"Changeability" of power is not at all in the traditions of Russia.
We have kings, that the general secretaries either died at the military post, or were overthrown by force (and also died).
The ruler must be chosen for life. But at the same time, one should not forget about the natural right of the Russian people to revolt.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: antiaircrafter

We have kings, that the general secretaries either died at a military post, or overthrown by force (and also dead).

Khrushchev? HMS? Yeltsin? Putin? Medvedev?

[antiaircrafter]

Chirchev

Really left voluntarily and democratically? Kick in the ass kicked out. truth and gave life.

HMS

He didn’t leave himself. He resigned as a result of the collapse of the country.
The truth is still not dead.

Quote: ROSS 42

Yeltsin

Perhaps the only exception for centuries. But he did not last too long.

Quote: ROSS 42

Putin

Yes, there was a moment of technical transfer of powers in order to circumvent constitutional restrictions. He remained in power and is still there. Let's see how it ends.

Quote: ROSS 42

Medvedev

Temporary Locum Tenens as a result of a conspiracy. What is there to discuss.

[Livonetc]

Anecdote from the time of the first perestroika.
What is diarrhea?
This is when in the stomach perestroika, and in the ass acceleration.

[AleBors]

All this movement was carried out to raise the rating of GDP, which began to strive for the baseboard. In reality, there will be no changes, the author is right.

[Gardamir]

Rating, but not Putin. Wait Putin as the leader of the nation did not care about the ratings. Wait Medvedev, as the acting president will make the action "Donbass is our". And immediately everyone will rush to vote.

[AleBors]

You are confusing something ... Medvedev will not do anything without a command, you know where from. And nothing like that will sound from there. And who, I'm ashamed to say, is Putin, the leader of the nation? By position, yes, the president. Otherwise, no. Although after the "message" all loyal and not very loyal media are fighting in a violent orgasm ... And the people too, in some part of it ..

[Gardamir]

The leader of the nation is a new position, although the chairman of the state council may leave

[AleBors]

We are still not in Turkmenistan.

[Gardamir]

Bear with a little left.

[uncle]

Yes?
And where? In Kazakhstan?

[Sergej1972]

The chairman of the State Council is the president himself, and he will be formed by the president himself.

[pavelpavel]

A complete manipulation of consciousness is carried out. What's wrong? Crimes and perpetrators are not indicated. For example, the loss of honor and dignity Medvedev with his Cabinet, AP and Security Council. The legalization of a serious criminal offense of usury puts them on a par with Gobsen and requires obstruction. You must select a time.

[75 Sergey]

Hallelujah! Well, finally they began to understand that GDP is Humpback number 2 and the result will be the same if you sit and look further.
Oh, sorry Anpilov Viktor Ivanovich died, because Zyuganov is a doll.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 75Sergey

Hallelujah! finally

Hallelujah

Quote: 75Sergey

Zyuganov is a doll.

Ragged oppositionist. He threatens the oligarchs with one hand. the other accepts awards from ... the government, against which he is "indignant" ... I will never forgive him 1996 - the year of betrayal of voters ...

[75 Sergey]

It was necessary to support Anpilov, it is a pity there is no person with his energy

[faterdom]

If you carefully digitize everything, many managerial posts in the state can be replaced by software! with monstrous savings and increased efficiency, when money to fight a fire or flood will not be allocated in December next year through affiliated banks, but within 0,1 ms.
Alice for the presidency !?

[AUL]

Come on! So, they pushed computers and databases to all government agencies, and what made them work better or faster? They began to demand less information (although they have all the information in the databases)? Reduced the number of officials? On the contrary, now the number of officials in the Russian Federation is an order of magnitude greater than in the entire USSR, but they did not work better.

[Alexey Brylev]

Actually, in a number of institutions it is much better. For example, I like the State Services website - it makes life a lot easier.

[NordUral]

And not only to you ..., Alexey Brylev.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: faterdom

If you carefully digitize everything - many managerial posts in the state can be replaced by software!

Only this has already been offered:

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[75 Sergey]

Who will write the algorithms?

[Sergej1972]

By the way, on the other hand, the role of the siloviki will sharply increase, which cannot be replaced by "digital".

[arlekin]

Quote: ROSS 42

What does the second restructuring of Putin mean?

That Putin should no longer be called the guarantor of the Constitution.

[Dimy4]

What Putin should no longer be called the guarantor of the Constitution

Quite the contrary: the Constitution is the guarantor of Putin.

[Icarus]

One (positive) moment by the author of the article is missed, in my opinion. Thus, the president proposed in the message a very significant restriction for officials at all levels, including judges - a ban on having a document giving the right to reside permanently in another country. And this in particular:
Selin Vladimir Viktorovich, Director of the Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (has a residence permit in Spain);
Mishcheryakov Yuri Nikolaevich, deputy of the State Duma (has a residence permit in Spain);
Gazzaev Valery Georgievich, deputy of the State Duma (has a residence permit in Spain);
Sysoeva Anna Alekseevna, Assistant to the First Deputy Prime Minister Anton Siluanov (has a residence permit in Spain);
Maklakov Alexey Vitalievich, General Director of the Federal State Enterprise "Soyuzplodoimport" (has permanent residence in Spain);
Andrei Makarov, chairman of the budget and tax committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation (holds Spanish citizenship);
Vladimir Pligin, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Construction of the State Duma of IV-VI convocations. Advisor to the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation. Deputy Chairman of the Commission of the Presidium of the General Council of "United Russia" on international activities. (Has Bulgarian citizenship.);
Sergey Andenko, ex-deputy chairman of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg. (Has a residence permit in Germany.);
Olga Golodets, Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, has Italian citizenship;
Sergei Zheleznyak, deputy of the State Duma and ex-deputy secretary of the General Council of United Russia, has permanent residence in the UK
Vladimir Blotsky, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
Andrei Golushko, a deputy of the State Duma, has French citizenship;
Dmitry Saveliev, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
Rinat Khairov, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
The Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Region Alexander Levintal has Israeli citizenship and Romanian citizenship;
Member of the Federation Council Boris Nevzorov holds the citizenship of Great Britain and Cyprus;
Member of the Federation Council Sergei Lisovsky holds French citizenship;
The head of the LDPR faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, has Spanish citizenship;
State Duma deputy Igor Lebedev (son of Vladimir Zhirinovsky) has Spanish citizenship and permanent residence in Switzerland;
State Duma deputy Mikhail Berulava has a Czech residence permit;
State Duma deputy Denis Kravchenko has a residence permit in Greece;
Nikolai Valuev, a deputy of the State Duma, has permanent residence in Spain.

[AUL]

They secured the rear. Well, just in case!

[NordUral]

Superfood patriots. I want to build a barge.

[antiaircrafter]

Well, they would also forbid them to leave.
Not a single half-drunk warrant officer can leave for the Cote d'Azur.
And let these sunbathe in domestic resorts.

[Alexey Brylev]

Wrong forecast. Not taking into account the principle of the phasing of all Putin's actions.

[seacap]

In power, the same people who betrayed, killed a great power, organized a plunder unprecedented in the history of mankind, built an estate state on the basis of lies and crime, hypocrisy, why should they suddenly change all this? Actually, in my opinion, an ordinary man in the street, but even with a REAL old-regime education that allows you to add 2 + 2, our (no, of course) leadership, like the entire "upper" class of society, which they created by destroying a single traditional community of people, more resembles a colonial administration, under the control of the instruments of the external neo-colonial management of the Central Bank and the Higher School of Economics, with the leadership of a married couple of a diligent Yale graduate and the rector of the so-called. "schools". Having destroyed the system of science, education and EDUCATION, i.e. the basis of everything and all of any state, as well as its development prospects, churning out several generations of egesh "advanced consumers" without honor and conscience, deprive us even of the prospects for a future worthy life. What they did not succeed in 41 is now purposefully and steadily implemented in accordance with the precepts of a dead and not stupid Pole, everything is done by the hands of the Russians and at the expense of the Russians, under the control of the corrupt, morally degenerate and poor so-called. elites (cattle-breeding term), there is a deliberate and systematic "cleansing" of the territory of the once mighty empire, ie. "The final solution of the Slavic question", which has stood for centuries and cannot be resolved like a bone in the throat. The hypocrisy of these scoundrels has no limit in power, hiding behind the greatest victories, portraits of our great ancestors, who created, defended, abundantly watering the earth with their blood and transferred the power to us, noisy "dancing" on the bones, various antics, shyly covering the Mausoleum and not mentioning the name of the Supreme Command, they are trying to cover up their squalor and lowland; such a future they dying wished for their children in poverty and backwardness in the 21st century?

[NordUral]

I agree, seacap!

[Sergej1972]

In my opinion, the author did not quite understand the essence of some of the proposed changes. Municipalities, on the contrary, propose to include state power in a single system. There is no question, at least for now, that the state council will have a special chairman. And it is not clear, the author considers the inviolability of the republican form of government as something bad?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The gloomy mood of the author and almost all commentators is striking. I agree, there are many problems. But why so dark? It seems that everyone sees only half an EMPTY glass and cognac stinks of bugs to them ...

[NordUral]

The rich will continue to grow rich, the poor (most of the people) will go poorer. There will be more billionaires and multimillionaires, they will be even richer.

This is what it means.

[samarin1969]

Quote: NordUral

Messages flash. that it has already begun quietly.

Also noticed. But so far no swarm of flying superjets over cities has been seen.

[GenNick]

Quote: NordUral

The rich will continue to grow rich, the poor (most of the people) will go poorer. There will be more billionaires and multimillionaires, they will be even richer.

This is what it means.

,,, ... the living will envy the dead ... '' Stevenson O / S ....

[GenNick]

Quote: Icarus

One (positive) moment by the author of the article is missed, in my opinion. Thus, the president proposed in the message a very significant restriction for officials at all levels, including judges - a ban on having a document giving the right to reside permanently in another country. And this in particular:
Selin Vladimir Viktorovich, Director of the Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (has a residence permit in Spain);
Mishcheryakov Yuri Nikolaevich, deputy of the State Duma (has a residence permit in Spain);
Gazzaev Valery Georgievich, deputy of the State Duma (has a residence permit in Spain);
Sysoeva Anna Alekseevna, Assistant to the First Deputy Prime Minister Anton Siluanov (has a residence permit in Spain);
Maklakov Alexey Vitalievich, General Director of the Federal State Enterprise "Soyuzplodoimport" (has permanent residence in Spain);
Andrei Makarov, chairman of the budget and tax committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation (holds Spanish citizenship);
Vladimir Pligin, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Construction of the State Duma of IV-VI convocations. Advisor to the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation. Deputy Chairman of the Commission of the Presidium of the General Council of "United Russia" on international activities. (Has Bulgarian citizenship.);
Sergey Andenko, ex-deputy chairman of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg. (Has a residence permit in Germany.);
Olga Golodets, Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, has Italian citizenship;
Sergei Zheleznyak, deputy of the State Duma and ex-deputy secretary of the General Council of United Russia, has permanent residence in the UK
Vladimir Blotsky, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
Andrei Golushko, a deputy of the State Duma, has French citizenship;
Dmitry Saveliev, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
Rinat Khairov, a deputy of the State Duma, has British citizenship;
The Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Region Alexander Levintal has Israeli citizenship and Romanian citizenship;
Member of the Federation Council Boris Nevzorov holds the citizenship of Great Britain and Cyprus;
Member of the Federation Council Sergei Lisovsky holds French citizenship;
The head of the LDPR faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, has Spanish citizenship;
State Duma deputy Igor Lebedev (son of Vladimir Zhirinovsky) has Spanish citizenship and permanent residence in Switzerland;
State Duma deputy Mikhail Berulava has a Czech residence permit;
State Duma deputy Denis Kravchenko has a residence permit in Greece;
Nikolai Valuev, a deputy of the State Duma, has permanent residence in Spain.

Well, I'll give you a parabellum ... / Ilf and Petrov /

[Icarus]

No. Not for me a parabellum, but for Putin. It is he who wants all the officials to be in the same boat with him and not think in case of something to flee over the hill. But here the interests of the majority of citizens and Putin, in my opinion, coincide. By and large, this is all a screen for other changes to the Constitution that he needs, since these restrictions do not require any amendments to the Constitution. It is enough to amend the laws: "On civil service in the Russian Federation", "On the status of judges", etc.

[1536]

The crisis of 1989-1993 was associated with the inability of Russia to switch to the V technological mode, the beginning of which is determined approximately from 1971. This way is determined by the introduction into production and social relations of computer equipment and technologies. The Bolsheviks at one time destroyed or did not develop these areas, being content with theoretical developments or the most necessary for managing actions to introduce obsolete computerized systems, robotic systems and, of course, personal computers. By 1989, this crisis had become systemic. The millions of engineers and skilled workers and skilled workers in all spheres of industry, science and agriculture could no longer achieve an increase in labor productivity without using computer technology. And they were not, or they were not introduced, which entailed a catastrophic lag of Soviet industry from the advanced countries of Western Europe and Japan. The USSR could not attract Western technologies, since its extremely inefficient domestic and aggressive foreign policy, sometimes bordering on harming itself to please delusional outdated ideas, did not involve such actions, and Western governments and companies were not eager to create competitors for themselves. In principle, they even had no time to think about it, since the conditions of production and the economy as a whole in those years had changed so rapidly. It was beneficial for them to supply the USSR with pipes and buy raw materials or semi-finished products for their industry, which by the mid-1980s had begun to work in new conditions under the new conditions. The mechanism of socialist management in peacetime did not involve team actions in organizing the development, production and implementation of the necessary equipment and technology. And this determined the failure and lag of the socio-economic foundations of the USSR from the rest of the world. Satisfied with the small, leaving for an indefinite period the transition to a new technological structure. Recall why millions of workers of the USSR then took to the streets of the country's cities, primarily Moscow, Leningrad, Sverdlovsk, Kiev. In words, they were unhappy with the concrete actions of the Soviet state, the CPSU, Gorbachev personally: a total deficit, and in recent years the lack of even the most necessary food products. But in reality, this was a dissatisfaction with the fact that a relatively highly educated society understood that with such a leadership it was only possible to enter the Stone Age or turn into a raw materials appendage of Western countries, all the more so as the understanding began to arise that the West was leaving us for a long time two on a high speed train. The socio-economic foundations of the USSR collapsed, like the collapse of, for example, an old wooden bridge, when its wooden piles, which had been driven in decades ago, were completely rotted.
However, it’s badly, but the entry, though now only of Russia, into the V technological order took place in the 1990s (for all their inconsistency and confusion of decisions). This cost our people innumerable sacrifices, millions of unborn children and a new division of society into rich and poor. What is it today? The VI technological order is marching across the planet, which is a kind of preparation for the VII, the transition to which will obviously occur by the 50s of the XXI century, since its duration is many times reduced in comparison with other technological orders. The VI way is characterized by a sharp decline in energy-intensive industries, the development of information technologies that come not only to every home, but embrace every person, an increase in production flexibility, and new qualities of products. Russia still fits into it, like that visitor of the former Cherkizovsky market who came to buy a new thing for himself cheaply, but whether she will be able to switch to the new VII order on her own is a big question. And this is a sore point, since, as before, the introduction of advanced technologies, the development of the latest forms of management, the maintenance of promising scientific areas run into the bureaucratic apparatus, the extremely low potential of education (especially school secondary and secondary education, and only then higher education), which became at one time a determining factor in the backwardness of the USSR, which began approximately from the beginning of the 60s of the last century and ended in a catastrophic "perestroika" and the death of the USSR.
In my opinion, today no one wants to chop the branch on which he sits and repeat past mistakes. This is the leitmotif of today.

[Altona]

Quote: 1536

The crisis of 1989-1993 was associated with the inability of Russia to switch to the V technological mode, the beginning of which is determined approximately from 1971. This way is determined by the introduction into production and social relations of computer equipment and technologies.

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You think sometimes what you write. Soviet-era CNC machines still work, and the mechanics in them are better than today's Chinese. The fact is that the Soviet nomenclature sabotaged the introduction of innovations and there were many reasons for this - the slowness of the state machine, the desire of officials to tighten administration on themselves, the desire to appropriate national property and other reasons of this kind. By 1985, the USSR had a powerful engineering and technical corps and advanced science. There was nothing so complicated in the transition to a new technical structure. You just have to work and think about it, but someone just wanted to reign and cut their loot. Moreover, these ministers, traveling abroad, heard the glorification addressed to them, such as their brains were underestimated and all other flattery.

[1536]

Dear, you need to see the forest behind the trees. And take a closer look at what they were going to comment on.

[Altona]

Quote: 1536

Dear, you need to see the forest behind the trees. And take a closer look at what they were going to comment on.

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I was in the center of this "forest", in the capital city of Moscow, and saw what machines were installed at VDNKh in 1986, so it's not yours. And not only saw the machines, but also much more. The emphasis was on the CMEA, because the modern economy operates only on a clear division of labor.
PS CCCP and CMEA stupidly dismantled, although it was possible and necessary to develop them.

[Vadim237]

Soviet-era CNC machines are still working. The factory does not tell me where they are still working, hunting to go and look at them. Serious enterprises do not buy Chinese machines, because it's rubbish.

[Campanella]

What is it, such an evolutionary mechanism? Nonsense. The main question is not in the way of life, but in the personnel and the system of state power, for the purposes that society faces, everything else is secondary.

[ANB]

Quote: Pessimist22

Please explain to me, if the economy in the USSR was so powerful, why was it covered with a copper basin?

Not covered, but covered. The Law on Cooperation, the permission of enterprises to work with cooperatives, the withdrawal of working capital, bankruptcy.
The planned economy plus the beginning of the rapid development of computer science gave the economy of the USSR and other social countries crazy prospects.
Therefore, everything was done to stop this.

[ANB]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

brandy stinks of them bugs.

What is the name of this brandy? I tried a bunch of brands - not one stinks :)

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Well this is an old anecdote about an optimist and a pessimist! The optimist will crush the bug and joyfully exclaims: "It smells of cognac!" A pessimist drinks cognac and grumbles: "It stinks of bedbugs!" Did not know?

[Altona]

The era of Putin, in principle, came to sunset. An appeal to Fed Sobu is, in a nutshell, handouts to you, I have power after 2024. Otherwise, I’ll arrange a kind of GKChP-2, where power will be usurped through the State Council. In general, sweating and puffing is not necessary, much less enduring. We must actively reject this power, it leaves us only a living wage. Do we need it?
PS Mikhan and other pseudo-patriots of missiles and tanks that are not in the troops. You too will be squeezed and your children will be washed with bloody tears, because you are drowning for the Millers and Sechins.

[Vadim237]

No GKChP will and no one will wash with any bloody tears - stop raving already, and at the expense of Miller and Sechin, after a year or two, they will leave their posts Miller with a high probability after the launch of SP 2.

[Victor N]

Another fabrication of the political officer: "Everything is lost!" Why not be happy for those who will receive help from the state ?! From the SOCIAL state!

[Altona]

Quote: Victor N

Another fabrication of the political officer: "Everything is lost!" Why not be happy for those who will receive help from the state ?! From the SOCIAL state!

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Not help, but a handout from the oligarchic state, which first took workers 5 years each, and then threw a handout to other people from this money. We will rejoice for the person who received the handout, but what awaits the children? So this is your next fabrication of a Sechino-Millerovsky patriot.

[Amper]

There is no such concept of a "social state! This is a bourgeois trick, nonsense, an attempt to gloss over the real relationship of labor and capital with verbiage! Revision of the teachings of Marx-Engels-Lenin! There is capitalism and there is socialism! Either the means of production and all the levers of state management are among the People, or among a handful Bourgeois In Russia, CAPITALISM is by no means the best, mostly usurious, if not worse (according to the law it is impossible!).

[Victor N]

In your next life, try to avoid dogmatism.

[Icarus]

Another fabrication of the political officer: "Everything is lost!" Why not be happy for those who will receive help from the state ?! From the SOCIAL state!

Social state?
A year ago (from 01.01.2019), the state increased the VAT, which is about 8000 rubles per each Russian citizen who paid to the treasury when consuming goods (works, services). in 1 year. And now "handouts" per citizen (assuming that we are 150 million) - 3000 rubles. in year. Normal math? Pension reform 2019 was also very social and caring.

[Vadim237]

VAT has not been increased for everything.

[1536]

Quote: Altona

Quote: 1536

Dear, you need to see the forest behind the trees. And take a closer look at what they were going to comment on.

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I was in the center of this "forest", in the capital city of Moscow, and saw what machines were installed at VDNKh in 1986, so it's not yours. And not only saw the machines, but also much more. The emphasis was on the CMEA, because the modern economy operates only on a clear division of labor.

And I was at the optical-mechanical and helicopter factories at the same time, and even at the sewing machine factory I had a chance to work in the assembly shop. And knowingly I tell you that, firstly, no one denies the achievements of the USSR in the field of technology, above all military. But at what cost it was given, at what cost, why were not hundreds of scientific and technical achievements made in the defense industries in other sectors of the national economy implemented, what happened to the design organization, production management, labor organization, trade, agriculture and etc. Secondly, following your thoughts that some people who traveled abroad are to blame for everything, it is logical to ask the question, what kind of system was this state, what kind of system was it that from some inept and crooks the future of the country and the people depended. Yes, dear, there is a discrepancy: "advanced production with CNC machines" and the inability of an ordinary Soviet citizen to purchase a car, a sewing machine, a music center or a home-made video recorder. And not because there is no money. No. But because all of this is not on sale in stores, and if there is, then either "by appointment" two or three years in advance, or from under the counter with overpayment and violation of the criminal code.
I'm not going to explain anything else to you. Better go to VDNKh to feel yourself in the center of the "forest" again, or even better to the forest itself ... Good luck.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: 1536

no one denies the achievements of the USSR in the field of technology, primarily military. But at what cost it was given, at what cost, why hundreds of scientific and technological achievements made in the defense industries in other sectors of the national economy were not implemented, what was with the organization of design, with the management of production, with the organization of labor, with trade, agriculture and etc

A plus. One hundred pluses. Also - was, I saw, I know.

Quote: 1536

I’m not going to explain anything to you

You are talking to a bot. Altonia is an anti-system blogger; he himself has said this repeatedly.

So - again a plus. Yours faithfully

[bandabas]

A state plundered by defective menegar. That says it all.

[faterdom]

Quote: 75Sergey

Who will write the algorithms?

The main thing is that alcohol rhythms do not write a kind of digital Yeltsin, with his random chaotic decisions. As she liked to say there: "The president has the right to be unexpected!"
And everyone lived in a state of constant surprise.

[depressant]

I would like to add the following.
I have already said that the showering of people with money, promised by Putin in a message and hardly feasible on the proposed scale (the state will find how to rob the population), has the basis for the dissatisfaction of trade magnates. But merchants are not the only representatives of the second-tier oligarchy. There are also builders. In order to exclude the phenomenon of defrauded real estate investors, a law was passed that charged developers with the need to take loans for a project, rather than starting construction with collecting money from future residents. It is clear that not every developer will be given loans, but only to someone who has a sufficient security deposit and reputation. There were few of them, and since the law affected all developers, many construction projects that had already begun were stopped in accordance with the law. A huge amount of unfinished construction has arisen across the country, developers are pissed, equity holders - even more. And how many more branches of the economy, about the discontent of which we do not know anything, but it certainly is.
Therefore, it can be assumed that the oligarchs of the second echelon took some steps to consolidate their dissatisfaction with Putin, which is far more dangerous for him than the dull grunts of a long-atomized people. Hence the pseudo-revolution from above, implying the institution of tax cases against each of the entrepreneurs who are disloyal to the president. The need to split the emerging consolidation of the owners of various types of industries that do not belong to large banking capital and the extractive sector, as the sudden emergence of a backup of Putin’s oligarchic enemies and himself, is the true meaning of the changes he proposed, camouflaged by everyone’s inevitable tax liability to the state.
... Once, in the 10s, Rogozin called himself the "chain dog of the president", but in fact in the 20s Mishustin will become him.

[Amper]

By revolution these political parties call sin. The hotter the boiler, the stronger the explosion! Our People need to be brought to extreme despair so that he remembers, where did Grandfather hide THIS?

[GenNick]

Quote: ANB

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

brandy stinks of them bugs.

What is the name of this brandy? I tried a bunch of brands - not one stinks :)

Nonsense ... This bugs stink brandy ...

[Amper]

Quote: solzh

Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens.

Pension reform needs to be canceled!
A progressive tax in the current economic condition of Russia should not be introduced. Instead, the tax burden on dividends should be increased.

Given the inviolability of privatized (stolen from the people) property, the entire financial burden will again fall on Russian citizens who do not belong to the caste of the haves.

I have one conclusion: a return to the Soviet model of the economy. Only in this way can we raise the economy and industry of our state.

And figure it out .... Huge funds will be released to start organizing the revival of the Country!

[Amper]

Putin has always been the henchmen of the Power that received Russia for her ........................ (extinct, censorship). The people and Putin !? This is nothing ................................ (extinct, censorship) by democracy!

[Amper]

Yes, it seems people are not against it, but who are you with?

[Amper]

Civil position. I appreciated, thank you!

[ANB]

Quote: 1536

without using computer technology. And they were not, or they were not introduced

Not implemented at all? And what then did I learn to program on in 1986? And there was already a bunch of purely Soviet software. Yes, and the import was stolen. But ento then was not considered theft. :)
IT just began to develop rapidly in the USSR, there were already Soviet PCs, moreover, integrated with mainframes. A network of points for repair and maintenance.

[1536]

God knows, what did you learn to program on ?!
On EC1033 or EC1046, using the Cabol or C + languages, probably. Perhaps they used Iskra or Robotron, developed Tetris, or something military for the special forces. But the flame from Iskra, alas, did not flare up in Russia in 1986. (Unless we got "abstract installations" by contemporary artists in the style of the apocalypse after using a blowtorch, one of which I saw already in the 1990s in the House of Artists on Krymsky Val in Moscow, and in 1991 the country flared up and collapsed).
It's a pity, I don’t know your last name, perhaps she appears somewhere among the developers of American and Canadian firms, where hundreds of our programmers have left, who thought that it’s better not to “learn to program” all their lives, but to apply their knowledge to the benefit of themselves and people ... But they could work in Russia, if someone figured out that it is not necessary to draw up reports to the ministries and take old "whisperers" as co-authors, but create modern information technology enterprises, where, again, they do not learn to program, but create this very software , which can still be sold to people for money.

[IL-64]

In '86, you could learn to program in BASIC, Fortran, Algol and C ++. But there was still practically no personnel, with the exception of the Bulgarian Pravets. And about a bunch of Soviet software, you don’t need la-la, unless of course you mean the then-text editor you mean, which disappeared safely. And all EUs were programmed differently. Remember how? I can ask about BESM6

[ANB]

Personnel - EC184x. C ++ in 1986 was not yet. Computers have not yet been sold to private traders and have been done correctly. Domestic only system software - systems of collective access Focus, Primus, Eye. Applied in general was all of ours.

[IL-64]

Yes you? Maybe just look at Wiki? About C ++

[ANB]

Of course, I looked at the wiki. To remember why I was learning just C instead of C ++. And also PL / 1, Fortran, Assembler IBM360 / 370, Rex, JCL, Pascal, Assembler 8086.
I recommend to see you too. :)

[ANB]

The C ++ language was released in 1983, but the industrial IDE came to it only in 1990. Therefore, in 1986, almost everyone in the USSR wrote C inu and suffered. By the way, much is still written on it, since it is more reliable than the plus one and the code is more understandable.

[Amper]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Victor N

Another fabrication of the political officer: "Everything is lost!" Why not be happy for those who will receive help from the state ?! From the SOCIAL state!

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Not help, but a handout from the oligarchic state, which first took workers 5 years each, and then threw a handout to other people from this money. We will rejoice for the person who received the handout, but what awaits the children? So this is your next fabrication of a Sechino-Millerovsky patriot.

Handouts are given to dogs. Are you talking about Your/Our Mother, Father, Grandfather, Grandmother, is it worthy!? Is there any honor in that?

[16112014nk]

The children of the current powers that be are settled, and grandchildren are on the way.
“Well, how can you not please your loved one!” ©
That's all you need to know about the second perestroika.

[Amper]

Quote: NordUral

The marker will be a quiet mass sale of large blocks of shares.

Messages flash. that it has already begun quietly. The latter is being privatized, sold over a hill and dumped. One thing is forgotten - Ostap Bender ended badly after crossing the Romanian, I do not remember exactly, border.

Mercader's ice ax is also good for weight loss! If only there was a forge...

[LeonidL]

“Putin’s Russia remains in the past, the way out of which is the death of the state, civilization and people in the raging sea of ​​global unrest.” - Another crazy prediction. Remember how many such predictions and soothsayers have been and are being made by the murky sewer of the Internet every day for decades. The Internet trash heap joyfully welcomes Mr. Samsonov! Again, once again, “VO” publishes materials that groundlessly discredit the leadership of the Russian Federation, confirming the reality of the message published by the Ministry of Defense about the start of an information attack. Who benefits from this?

[Vadim237]

He constantly spouts this nonsense - it’s probably itching in one place.

[Karabin]

Quote: LeonidL

once again "VO" publishes materials groundlessly discrediting the leadership of the Russian Federation

The leadership of the Russian Federation itself has been discredited so many times that there is nowhere to place a test.

[Nait]

Quote: NEXUS

Answer me an elementary question - why, under Brezhnev or Khrushchev, did people pay pennies for gasoline, gas, electricity, unlike today?

Do you know how much gasoline cost back then?
Fill up the tank?

[Nait]

Quote: Pessimist22

Please explain to me, if the economy in the USSR was so powerful, why was it covered with a copper basin?

Because he was dragging half the world of naked-assed social media. camps.
Not calculated.

[ANB]

Quote: 1536

But they could work in Russia,

And I work in Russia. Programmer. And while he was serving, he automated everything that was needed in his unit. And he wrote the first programs for Voentorg.

[Radical]

Quote: Pessimist22

Please explain to me, if the economy in the USSR was so powerful, why was it covered with a copper basin?

In short - the human factor... .

[Radical]

Quote: ANB

Quote: 1536

But they could work in Russia,

And I work in Russia. Programmer. And while he was serving, he automated everything that was needed in his unit. And he wrote the first programs for Voentorg.

Which is not.

[ANB]

And trade in the HF territory is now carried out by private traders, who in the early 2000s were caught selling vodka to conscripts.

[Radical]

Quote: seacap

In power, the same people who betrayed, killed a great power, organized a plunder unprecedented in the history of mankind, built an estate state on the basis of lies and crime, hypocrisy, why should they suddenly change all this? Actually, in my opinion, an ordinary man in the street, but even with a REAL old-regime education that allows you to add 2 + 2, our (no, of course) leadership, like the entire "upper" class of society, which they created by destroying a single traditional community of people, more resembles a colonial administration, under the control of the instruments of the external neo-colonial management of the Central Bank and the Higher School of Economics, with the leadership of a married couple of a diligent Yale graduate and the rector of the so-called. "schools". Having destroyed the system of science, education and EDUCATION, i.e. the basis of everything and all of any state, as well as its development prospects, churning out several generations of egesh "advanced consumers" without honor and conscience, deprive us even of the prospects for a future worthy life. What they did not succeed in 41 is now purposefully and steadily implemented in accordance with the precepts of a dead and not stupid Pole, everything is done by the hands of the Russians and at the expense of the Russians, under the control of the corrupt, morally degenerate and poor so-called. elites (cattle-breeding term), there is a deliberate and systematic "cleansing" of the territory of the once mighty empire, ie. "The final solution of the Slavic question", which has stood for centuries and cannot be resolved like a bone in the throat. The hypocrisy of these scoundrels has no limit in power, hiding behind the greatest victories, portraits of our great ancestors, who created, defended, abundantly watering the earth with their blood and transferred the power to us, noisy "dancing" on the bones, various antics, shyly covering the Mausoleum and not mentioning the name of the Supreme Command, they are trying to cover up their squalor and lowland; such a future they dying wished for their children in poverty and backwardness in the 21st century?

Respect!

[ANB]

Quote: 1536

On ES1033 or ES1046, using Kabol or C+ languages, probably. Perhaps they used Iskra or Robotron

EC1033, EC1045, EC1840. In 1990 they apparently installed the ES1066, it was cool, I’ll tell you. There are no Kabol or C+ languages. There is Cobol, C, C++. C++ appeared only in 1996, I could not study it in 1986. Unfortunately, I did not study Cobol, now I would earn twice as much.
And here's what's strange. Graduates of Soviet universities who remained to work in their profession all write high-quality programs. But now there are Russian graduates, that’s already, ladies. Much more sloppy, to put it mildly.

[MrFox]

I never approved of Stalin’s domestic policies, but I’m starting to think that there was a point in the executions according to the list.

[bars1]

Most commentators are some kind of whiners and suicidal people! I would call them... It’s a pity that swearing is prohibited here! In general, it is not clear how they survived the 1990s with such sentiments? There was general hopelessness there, compared to which the current situation is much better.

[Astronaut]

Mishustin opposed the abolition of the cannibalistic pension reform, against the introduction of a progressive tax and for tightening financial control over citizens.

And the author wants the new prime minister to start “breaking” the liberals’ backbone from the very first hour?

[ANB]

Quote: bars1

There was general hopelessness there, compared to which the current situation is much better.

The 90s after the 80s were complete trash, but now it’s obviously better. But there are fewer prospects than under the USSR. Not zero prospects, but less.

[Lekz]

Let's be realistic. Everything bad already happened in the 90s - a completely prosperous country was destroyed and plundered. Now we live in a different reality, its name is capitalism. Private property and the pursuit of profit. There are two options: a return to socialist socialism or a movement towards capitalist socialism. The first is possible only through another revolution, with chaos and blood, and the second, it seems that this is the one chosen, is more prosperous. Everything was started for its implementation. The framework of the state from state corporations has been built, social programs are being implemented, and this will require an accurate accounting of opportunities through taxes. The only thing missing is the middle - small and medium-sized businesses, which will provide employment with increased wages and significantly expand the tax base, and therefore the state’s ability to provide social support to those who are unable to earn money. And that's the problem. The problem did not appear yesterday; it lies in the origins of the new Russian state, which emerged from socialism. The USSR was self-sufficient and did not need the world market. Therefore, Russia does not have its own niches in the global division of labor. You can release iPhones, but people won’t buy them; there is a product of the same quality that has already been developed on the market, and the situation is the same with everything else. A pleasant exception, oil and gas - we are a gas station. This is reality. You may like her or not, but that's how it is. Everything else is trivial and old memory. But even these market niches must be protected. Sanctions on SP-2 and S-300/400 are an example for you. The domestic market is small, but even in it we need to compete. And yet, there is no point in entering the market with goods from the economy of the last century. But no one will share modern, forward-looking technologies; no one needs competitors in the market. Dead end path, always catching up. The only reasonable option is to enter the market with goods that are not yet on it, created using 21st century technologies. It’s difficult, it’s difficult, it’s hard to believe, but it won’t work out any other way. And I propose to leave the hopes that some decisions, changes in personalities in power... and happiness will immediately fall upon us to those who #wearepowerhere. This is for them.

[Uran53]

How to live then?!

[Vadim237]

Mind your own business, set up production or repair of something.

[Uran53]

In our country, in my opinion, the most reliable thing is to get a job as an official. Always fed and dressed. I don’t know about you, but our small and medium-sized businesses will die out as a species in a couple of years. People have no money, and there is no demand.

[wooja]

Perestroika ..., or rather you can't say, the experience of the previous action showed that there is no good to wait, there are many tactical successes ... but a strategic failure. The verbiage from behind the Kremlin wall cannot cover up the open drain of the state ...., natural corporations are not the state yet ..., or not the state anymore, but the bodies are not competent enough or .... the current "perestroika" is another drain of the country, The collective "Gorbachev" is a much more sophisticated, yet another divorce ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: wooja

Perestroika..., success..., drain of the state...., natural corporations are not yet a state..., or no longer a state, and the authorities are not competent enough or..., another scam....

What, excuse me, was this stream of consciousness supposed to mean? The abundance of ellipses, by the way, does not add meaning to the text, rather the opposite.

Can you do the same thing, but somehow more coherently, or what?

[wooja]

means - this is one thing - distrust, skepticism, and disappointment.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: wooja

mistrust, skepticism, and disappointment

Thank you, that makes it clearer. Please clarify, if possible, where did you see the “draining of the country and the state”? I don’t see them point-blank... what am I doing wrong? (With)

[wooja]

the goals stated by the guarantor are unattainable within the framework of the existing system ... unfortunately, no one has canceled integration into the world community, so the gradual dismantling of the state is inevitable, but the role of the authorities will be strengthened, not within the state (sovereign state), but within the framework of the governing territorial administration. Slow boil the frog until cooked ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: wooja

unfortunately, no one has canceled integration into the world community

To “cancel” you must first “assign”. In the form that you imagine it, no one has ever prescribed it (integration).

About

Quote: wooja

managing territorial administration

- also an old song. I’ve been hearing it like this for twenty years now, and the longer I hear it, the less it resembles the truth.

That's something like

[wooja]

so there’s nothing new and there, just looking at the facts as a whole, they didn’t go far from perestroika the number of times ... but for 30 years they pretended to go, but that we were going on the spot-- so little things ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: wooja

so there is nothing new, just looking at the facts as a whole, they have not gone far from perestroika number one...

Well, how to look...
- the country got out of debt, which it successfully got into during “perestroika” and a little later
- the country has built some kind of governance system (we remember the EBN - “take as much sovereignty as you can take”, we think a lot)
- they started paying salaries... they started a long time ago, everyone forgot that once (not so long ago) they could not be paid for 3-4 months
- remind me about the army?

And yes, of course - it was the one that “crawled” (c).

wooja, thank you, I understood your idea. I don’t share it. Good luck

[Lynx33]

I don't agree with you. Personally, I voted for Putin, but looking at what has been going on in the country lately, I realized that I made a mistake in my choice. A fourth presidential term is clearly unnecessary for Putin.

[Pavel57]

Revolution from above. Unpredictable.

[sergo1914]

Let's enter Put Intim.

[Ham]

you have to be stubborn in order to call what is happening “the second perestroika”...

[IL-64]

There was a site called "Military Review", but now it becomes "Liberal Review"

[Pacifist]

guard! everything is lost!
For 20 years we've had enough articles like this. I don’t know what the author smoked, but this is a clear overdose. Every time such articles come out, I prefer to look at the numbers, rather than these cars of hysterical emotions with made-up forecasts. So the numbers show a completely different picture, but I believe in the skills and abilities of Putin and his entourage in the field of strategic planning for the development of the state, because I see the results in relation to what happened 30 years ago. The development of the state, sad as it may be for some infantes, is not determined by their momentary desires. China's planning time frame is 200 years. What is happening now is a turn towards the long arm of planning with balancing of power. And my experience tells me that those who think that everything will be divided up, but it won’t be given to them, and therefore everyone needs to be removed so that they get more, are simply narrow-minded people with complexes who have not found their place in life. Do you want to look again at what this logic that has reached its destination leads to? Look across the square border. Power can never please everyone; that’s not what it’s for. Its main task is to preserve the state and its integrity, stability and security. Considering the rubbish left from the gerontocrats who ruined the country in the 90s and the first alcoholic of independence, the current government is coping with the issue quite well. And given how inertial a structure such as a state is, changes cannot be rapid, otherwise the structure will not withstand and destruction will begin. And yes, power is not enough to please everyone.

[AEF]

"Pacifist (Victor) Yesterday, 13:16
guard! everything is lost!
For 20 years we've had enough articles like this. I don’t know what the author smoked, but this is a clear overdose. Every time such articles come out, I prefer to look at the numbers, rather than these cars of hysterical emotions with made-up forecasts. So the numbers show a completely different picture, but I believe in the skills and abilities of Putin and his entourage in the field of strategic planning for the development of the state, because I see the results in relation to what happened 30 years ago. The development of the state, as sad as it may be for some infa........"
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Yes, you are right, the obvious cannot be denied. VVPutin, with his domestic policies, albeit with “some mistakes,” raised Russia from its knees. But at what cost????
How many loud, large-scale programs have been made on his part, both for a “breakthrough” in industry and for increasing the number of jobs by as much as 25 million..... With his good calls, addressed primarily to the “party in power” and “ economic bloc of the government" in his messages to the Federal Assembly and the State Duma, VVputin sought to encourage them to creative activities to implement these programs. But...... alas, his efforts were in vain.
Putin is not a decree for Medved; Medved (and his protégés, the EdRosovskys in the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Economic Development) fulfill the demands of the IMF and the World Bank to destroy Russia.
The military-industrial complex and the Moscow Region do not count; they are not within the scope of subordination to the Cabinet of Ministers and the Ministry of Finance. Here the president showed his power despite the efforts of the EdRosov gang to disrupt the implementation of state defense programs.
How many appeals have there been from the president to the government with “criticism” of outright inaction, or simply sabotage, on the development of AviaProm, RosCosmos, and the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome. It all came down to the issues of financing by the Ministry of Finance of these areas. When drawing up the budget for “next year,” funding was allocated, albeit in a small amount, but in fact these funds were transferred to the accounts of program implementers “at the end of December, on New Year’s Eve,” when it was no longer possible to direct these funds anywhere. This is how the government of Medved, the leader, worked the EdRo party is a monopolist of political power in the State Duma of Russia.
So, all this means is that VVPutin, apparently “out of good intentions and out of naivety,” created with his own hands a “party of power” in the country and handed it over to Medved; all ministers and governors, mayors and other local officials are members her. As they say, it’s “an obvious mistake” of VVPutin. For what ? In order to use EdRo and Medved's government as a screen behind which he will raise the military-industrial complex and the Army???? At the cost of a general slowdown in the development of Russia, the robbery of the people by fucking oligarchs and government embezzlers......
The price is too high.
So what am I talking about? And besides, the commission “on amendments to the constitution” is now working, and I propose to make the following amendment to the constitution - “... all party factions in the State Duma, regardless of the party votes collected during the elections in the State Duma elections, must have the same number of votes during legislative work in the Duma.
That is, each party faction, when voting for the adoption/rejection of a law, or when electing a speaker, or heads of committees, appointing Ministers, etc., etc.... should have only one vote. At least ten parties/factions - each has one vote. This will not allow any one party faction to gain a monopoly on political, and therefore economic power in Russia.
The monopoly of one party (CPSU) on power in the country led the USSR to self-destruction.
In order to prevent this from happening to the Russian Federation in the future, we must not allow the usurpation of power in the hands of General Secretary Medved or his descendants alone. According to the rotation system, the leader of the party faction from each party becomes the speaker every month. The speaker should not have the status of a state political figure and be equated “to a third party in the state.”
All deputies should NOT have the status of an inviolable person and are required to comply with all laws of Russia and bear criminal liability for violating them.
If any conflict arises in the work of the State Duma, the president has the decisive vote.....”.
Perhaps this amendment to the constitution will bring the ruling elite closer to the people, i.e. to democracy.

[Dima_Anlim]

Chief, everything is gone! Well, and so on.... And one more thing - Where to bury the machine gun so that you don’t forget to dig it up later? To the author - for the rain.

[Shuttle]

The article is off to a good start.
Especially about the lack of real “democracy”. In general, “people’s” or “all-people’s” or “all-people’s state” is the same oxymoron as solar darkness or negative increase. All the letters seem to be correct, but they have no meaning. As soon as the state truly acquires a nationwide character, it disappears on its own. While the state exists, it cannot belong to the entire people, it cannot fulfill the will of the entire people. The state always first of all fulfills the will of the ruling class.

This makes this misunderstanding all the more annoying.

The new status of the State Council, when this body should be above the legislative, executive and judicial powers, gain the right to go to parliament with legislative initiatives and dispose of state property...

Nothing surprising. The class of big capital exhibits its most important property - the desire to monopolize, i.e. to increase profits while reducing costs. In this case, power is monopolized.

- this is a continuation of the unchangeable power of one person in Russia and his “friends” and partners. And the results of his 20-year reign in Russia are very sad. From the destruction of education, medicine and science, industry to the extinction of the Russian people.

Not an individual person, not his friends, but a class. Largest capital class. And, by the way, to be objective. The defeat is compared to the USSR. And compared to the 90s, everything is very good. Here it should be admitted that modern capitalists have realized that simply plundering a clearing is unprofitable and short-sighted. Robbery must be scientific.

[KJIETyc]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I believe that everything will be digitized by ordinary citizens ... all people's incomes and expenses will be kept under tight control ...

I am sure you are not far from the truth. The framework is the same, the electorate is more controlled.

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The complete uncertainty of the future ...

In this future, we, as servants ensuring the will of the elites and the safety of their capital, will sit on a shorter leash so that we do not kick and protest. 99% of people, not only in our country, but in the world, are beggars. As it does not hurt the ears of successful people, but it is. The elites want to arrange another artificial crisis, and all success will fly off these people very quickly. And they will close their enterprises, firms, offices, selling their acquired property in order to stay afloat. So the beggar is fed up when his uncle decides to give him some money. But just enough so that this beggar does not get on his feet, and so that he does not die of hunger.

Workers of all countries unite? I already read this somewhere. Take everything and divide it?

[Private89]

A country under the current system is a country of declaration - declarative right to life, declarative freedom, declarative education, declarative medicine, etc. But in fact, a person is just a commodity for the ruling class.

[Campanella]

Vladimir Putin thanked the government, saying “the results of our work with you at this stage are not bad”
You can’t remove the words from the song. Only Allah knows what Putin is guided by in his decisions, but clearly he is less interested in the people than in corporate and personal interests. Well, the fact that rulers constantly declare their concern for the lives of the people is the norm. How else can one explain their rule? Only with care, the people are already howling with this care.

[Bogatyrev]

Attempts to improve demography and cause sustainable population growth through some material stimulation are pointless. Without a meaningful image of the future, a project and development project, a rejection of the Western society of consumption and extermination (the “golden calf” society), Russia will continue to die out, and even faster.

Unconditional and absolute truth!!!

[Brigadier]

Putin is the Gorbachev of our time.

[Alexy]

I haven’t read more delirium for a long time

[1536]

Quote: Campanella

What is it, such an evolutionary mechanism? Nonsense. The main question is not in the way of life, but in the personnel and the system of state power, for the purposes that society faces, everything else is secondary.

It is clear that in your “City of the Sun” no way of life has ever existed.

[EvilLion]

Glory to psychiatry. That is, no, it doesn’t work well.

[Born]

I haven't read all the comments here, there are too many. So maybe I'll repeat myself. Firstly, there is a feeling that they are pushing through some important change (most likely at the expense of the State Council), hiding it under a heap of unimportant and seemingly correct ones. Secondly, such a number of completely different changes should be put to a vote separately from each other. And 40 million pensioners, having read about mandatory indexation of pensions, which are already indexed according to federal law, will go and support all this, without looking at the rest.

[Born]

“From the destruction of education, medicine and science, industry to the extinction of the Russian people,” I don’t agree with this because it’s nonsense.

[Lynx33]

I propose to resist digital slavery, I propose to minimize non-cash online payments and the use of cards and try to pay in cash everywhere, let them try to digitize cash. And don’t make me laugh, digital slavery will be worse than just slavery.

[VladVlad]

85% of the people's income is barely enough to pay for housing and communal services and cheap food. This is not even wild capitalism, this is a slave economic model. Putin is unable to change this slavish economic model. He has been in power for 20 years, but the country’s economy is not thriving and the standard of living of the people is not improving. All this “second perestroika” is empty chatter. It will only get worse for the people. Trust is completely lost.
It is necessary to significantly increase the incomes of citizens of the Russian Federation, increase money turnover in industry and trade several times, and remove the idiotic policy of limiting cash circulation. There are many more ways to dramatically increase the growth of a country's economy. But some enemies are forcing the president and prime minister to do the opposite. They would at least read about the United States, how they made the economy the most powerful in the world.