The marine tanker Akademik Pashin will join the Northern Fleet on January 21

The marine tanker Akademik Pashin will join the Northern Fleet on January 21

Project 23130 medium sea tanker “Akademik Pashin” will be introduced into the Northern fleet January 21 this year. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, the ceremony of raising the flag of the auxiliary fleet of the Navy will be held in Severomorsk.


According to the report, the crew of the ship, the command of the Northern Fleet and invited guests will take part in the ceremony.

As previously reported, last year the new marine tanker Akademik Pashin successfully passed the full test program in the Barents Sea. At certain stages, fleet warships took part in the test of the tanker, including the Peter the Great heavy nuclear missile cruiser and the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov frigate.

The construction of the Akademik Pashin medium-sized offshore supply tanker has been underway since April 26, 2014 under a contract with the Russian military. The ship is intended for the Northern Fleet. The tanker was withdrawn from the boathouse of the plant on March 18, 2016 and launched on May 26, 2016. Deadweight at maximum load of about 9000 tons. The length is the largest 130 meters, the largest width is about 21 meters, the maximum draft is about 7 meters. Maximum speed 16 knots. Autonomy of 60 days. The crew of 24 people. Cruising range is 9000 nautical miles, and one of the main tasks is escorting aircraft carriers.

Tanker of project 23130 is a single-deck vessel with a double hull in the cargo area tanksable to walk in the northern latitudes. It can transfer or receive several types of liquid cargo without mooring to another vessel or ship: diesel fuel, fuel oil, kerosene, oil, water, and also accept, store, transport and transfer dry goods (food, skipper and technical property) using the traverse system transfer of goods to the sea. It can be used to eliminate emergency oil and oil product spills.

The vessel is named in honor of Valentin Mikhailovich Pashin, Hero of Russia, an outstanding shipbuilding engineer, full member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, long-term director of the Krylov State Scientific Center.
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  1. rocket757 17 January 2020 13: 13 New
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    Support vessels for the navy .... as they say without water, fuel and other cargo, and not tuda, nor syuda.
    1. Tiksi-3 17 January 2020 13: 45 New
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      On January 24, at the Sredne-Nevsky Shipyard, a launch ceremony for the next Yakov Balyaev project 12700 mine defense ship is scheduled. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, representatives of the High Command of the Russian Navy will take part in the event.
      Quote: rocket757
      Navy support vessels

      news pleases amid the situation with the new government
      1. rocket757 17 January 2020 14: 16 New
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        Quote: Tiksi-3
        news pleases amid the situation with the new government

        Honestly, I don’t worry about the changes at the top, in advance ... the shore of the liver. All that will be, we will discuss / worry later, upon the fact of a particular event.
    2. tihonmarine 17 January 2020 14: 05 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Support vessels for the navy .... as they say without water, fuel and other cargo, and not tuda, nor syuda.

      A good tanker, the Finns used to build, but now they themselves. Although for a tanker, they built a long time.
      1. rocket757 17 January 2020 14: 19 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Although for a tanker, they built a long time.

        BUILD, this is already a welcome fact ...
        The uncle from Nikolaev wrote to me that terribly anger / envy takes them all when he looks at his Nikolaev shipyards.
        1. tihonmarine 17 January 2020 17: 09 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          The uncle from Nikolaev wrote to me that terribly anger / envy takes them all when he looks at his Nikolaev shipyards.

          A few years ago I saw the Baltic Shipyard and Nikolaevsk, I just wanted to cry. The Baltic survived, became modern, builds elite ships, and Nikolaev now, as after the liberation of Nikolaev from the Nazis. How can you not love your country like that?
          1. rocket757 17 January 2020 18: 00 New
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            How can you not love your people .... although, if you don’t take it as such, it all turns out that way!
  2. rich 17 January 2020 13: 28 New
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    The vessel is named after Valentin Mikhailovich Pashin, Hero of Russia, an outstanding shipbuilding engineer, full member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and the long-term director of the Krylov State Scientific Center.

    The author is well done, it has already become a tradition that articles on the release of new ships talk about people in honor of whom they are named.
  3. Ratmir_Ryazan 17 January 2020 13: 59 New
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    Replenishment, great.
  4. donavi49 17 January 2020 15: 06 New
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    6 years on a small tanker. And this taking into account the fact that Vyartsila managed to put the power to sanctions.

    And the tanker is a small, helipad for short-term operations, mainly without touching (return / receipt of goods on a winch).


    In China, the world's largest fleet supplier with a platform and a hangar, the gas-and-gas duct was later begun to be built and the main one has already been introduced, the second one is being introduced.


    Okay, China. New Zealand - Aotearoa at 26k tons. With ample opportunities for the transport of containers on deck and its own crane infrastructure. ICE CLASS - The Navy will use it to deliver fuel and cargo to the Antarctic stations. Cutting in 2018 - descent in April 2019 - input to build by this year.

    1. Stirbjorn 17 January 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: donavi49
      6 years on a small tanker. And this taking into account the fact that Vyartsila managed to put the power to sanctions.

      The plant had no experience in the construction of such ships. This is generally the largest built by NSSZ, plus a new project. The main thing is that they finally commissioned, now I hope they will go into the series, otherwise there is no point in so much torment
      1. 955535 17 January 2020 16: 49 New
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        They won’t go. It is necessary to modify the project. And preferably with another designer, because "Special court" ...... (further obscene). And, as maritime practice shows, to provide MBT in long tanker cruises, not medium, but large ones are needed.
        1. tihonmarine 17 January 2020 18: 22 New
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          Quote: 955535
          And, as maritime practice shows, to provide MBT in long tanker cruises, not medium, but large ones are needed.

          Yes, a normal tanker tanker for 9000 tons of cargo, right now the fleet needs these. Long trips are not expected, and such a tanker is needed for the fleet that is available now. It can go for bunkering at any port, maneuverable, seaworthy. In the 80s, the Finns bought the same. The delivery of fuel in the stern from Bakshtova and from the sides. Nice ship. But “sea practice” is quite another, read the textbook for navigators “Sea practice” and everything will become clear. (although now there are no sensible textbooks).
          1. 955535 17 January 2020 18: 31 New
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            9000 is not only oil products, but fresh water (1000 tons), food and spare parts. Actually there is not much diesel fuel there, though it can be poured into fuel oil tanks, but still not enough.
            And about the fact that hiking is not expected there is confidence? Recently, "Gorshkov" went around the world together with "Chicker" and "Elbrus". A large tanker traveled with them, by the way.
            Regarding textbooks, you can not advise. I read them, both in the highest naval institution, and for a couple of decades of service.
            The issue "from the sides", as you have expressed it, is correctly called the traverse method. Now it’s time for you to refresh your knowledge of maritime practices and the transfer of goods on the go
            1. Serg65 18 January 2020 08: 11 New
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              Quote: 955535
              about the fact that hiking is not expected there is confidence?

              Man, the creation of large OpEsk in the near future is not expected, and in the future I suspect that they will not be. For example, in the Middle East, the issue of logistical support was decided with the help of Tartus' re-qualification from PTMO to Naval Forces!
              one of the main tasks is called tracking aircraft carriers
              .
              Based on this, I can confidently say that the construction of aircraft carriers and UDCs will not take long ... Projects 23130, 23120, 22870 and 20180 are the forerunners of the Russian aircraft carrier fleet!
              Quote: 955535
              It’s time for you to refresh your knowledge on maritime practices and on-the-fly cargo

              laughing How can I refresh something that isn’t ???
              1. 955535 18 January 2020 10: 02 New
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                Even small compounds consume significant amounts of fuel. Do you know how much consumes BOD of project 1155 or frigate of project 22350 per day?
                You are talking with a smart look about things in which you don’t understand nichrome, and nevertheless, you climb to learn. There are half such commentators, if not more.
                1. Serg65 18 January 2020 10: 41 New
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                  Quote: 955535
                  You are talking with a smart look about things in which you do not understand nichrome

                  And which WWMU did you finish, Mr. Admiral?
                  Quote: 955535
                  climb to learn

                  laughing Oh God forbid!
                  And yes ..
                  Quote: 955535
                  Do you know how much BOD project1155 consumes

                  M-9 from 180 to 250 tons, and?
                  1. 955535 18 January 2020 11: 33 New
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                    The question is, how many refueling can an average tanker make for one ship at the transition from Severomorsk to Tartus?
                    My school doesn’t exist now, Mr. Gofmarshal.
                    1. Serg65 18 January 2020 12: 20 New
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                      Quote: 955535
                      The question is, how many refueling can an average tanker make for one ship at the transition from Severomorsk to Tartus?

                      laughing The prize leaves with a smart look to me, who doesn’t understand nichrome! Eleven and a half-fifth will slip this distance without additional corrections, and even the tanning beds will remain before Naples! wink !
                      Not, of course, if you are crazy, you sent a ship on a hike with empty tanks ... then Pashin will make 1 bunkering (moreover, in the Kola Bay) and still have the return trip! wink
                      Quote: 955535
                      My school does not exist now

                      wassat Well, I thought so, Captain VRUngel!
                      1. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 28 New
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                        I have absolutely no obligation to report to any Munchausen about myself.
                        And your prize is half the horse. Use it.
                      2. Serg65 18 January 2020 12: 33 New
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                        Quote: 955535
                        I have absolutely no obligation

                        Well then, and not figs in the chest to beat yourself screaming ... mom pee on the chest, I can’t live without the sea! Each gopher-agronomist, you already got .... admirals!
                      3. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 38 New
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                        Who themselves? Do not hysteria.
        2. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 09 New
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          Quote: 955535
          Actually there is not much diesel fuel there, though it can be poured into fuel oil tanks, but still not enough.

          What is the difference between petroleum products from fuel oil and diesel fuel, and how are fuel oil tanks different from fuel ones? In order to carry food you need a hold, and for meat and fish you need a freezing hold, for a ZIK you also need a room. Even in Soviet times, fishing trawlers were used for such purposes, so as not to block the garden from a tanker.
          1. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 19 New
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            Don't even go on. The handwriting of the sofa iksperd is felt.
            Amazing nonsense, bravo!
            1. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 40 New
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              Quote: 955535
              Don't even go on. The handwriting of the sofa iksperd is felt.
              Amazing nonsense, bravo!

              As an old KDP with great experience, I put you a minus.
            2. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 42 New
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              Quote: 955535
              Don't even go on. The handwriting of the sofa iksperd is felt.

              And although it’s correct, although I’m working now, it’s possible to say “couch”, I retired at 71 and have been working ashore for two years.
              1. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 47 New
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                I explain for grandfathers. Oil tanks are equipped with a cargo heating system. Diesel tanks - no. Fuel oil must not be poured into tanks with diesel fuel.
                On Pashin’s nose there are two tanks with jet fuel. They are equipped with an inertization system. You can’t pour anything except kerosene
                1. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 53 New
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                  Quote: 955535
                  Oil tanks are equipped with a cargo heating system. Diesel tanks - no.

                  You figure it out, it means I didn’t study on Wikipedia, but I had to "plow." Well, the F-5s were not heated, and you can’t take all types of IFO without heating, especially in the north.
      2. Serg65 18 January 2020 07: 41 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Can go to any port for bunkering

        It can't, it's a military tanker!
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Fuel delivery aft from Bakstov

        what What are you talking about now?
        Quote: tihonmarine
        "marine practice" is another, read the textbook for navigators "Marine practice"

        laughing Vlad, they’ve already explained to you popularly, tie a mow under the sailor!
        1. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 33 New
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          Quote: Serg65
          Vlad, they’ve already explained to you popularly, tie a mow under the sailor!

          Vlad, it’s me, he has been working at sea since 1968, starting his activity on the icebreaker, and a year later on the vessels of the Ministry of Fisheries "wallets" of all types of trawlers, Finnish-built tankers, rescuers, B-64 floating base, Tavria-type PR, "Irresistible" lifeguard, Yaroslavl construction, transports. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, he worked on reefs and “sapplayers” under the flag. KDP since 1978. So I have a small idea of ​​fuel operations and tankers (fishermen went to sea for 175 days and also received all supplies at sea).
          1. Serg65 18 January 2020 12: 44 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Vlad, it's me, has been working at sea since 1968, starting his activity on the icebreaker

            what And not on Kruzenshtern? The last time it was on Kruzenshtern ... now on the icebreaker, and tomorrow what will you start your labor activity on?
            Quote: tihonmarine
            and a year later on the vessels of the Ministry of Fisheries

            what Oh, but you won’t have time, in a year ... according to your own words ... you were serving an urgent term in Sverdlov ... or not?
            Quote: tihonmarine
            After the collapse of the USSR, he worked on reefs and “sapplayers” under the flag

            This is when they brought palm oil to Russia?
            Quote: tihonmarine
            fishermen left for 175 days at sea

            what And not for 270 ... days?
            In short, my friend, or you’ll calm down, or I’ll lay out your ins and outs almost for months! You've talked so much in 4 years ... that's enough for a fantastic novel!
            1. tihonmarine 18 January 2020 14: 40 New
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              Quote: Serg65
              In short, my friend, or you’ll calm down, or I’ll lay out your ins and outs almost for months! You've talked so much in 4 years ... that's enough for a fantastic novel!

              Well, if frankness, frankness, then all the time you ask everything that, where, when, everywhere you specify, but naturally keep quiet about yourself. You are not a priest, and I am not in a confession, since childhood I was taught "be silent, the enemy is listening." And that I owe you everything "on a silver platter with a blue edge to bring it up. I asked you somehow who I was working for. Well, what am I writing, like everyone else, that it’s true, that I heard it somewhere or saw it, or myself so I’ve laid it down for months, for heaven’s sake, I’ll say 20% is true, and 80% will be sent by God. It’s interesting where you put it to someone else. If I’m not right in the latter a word, then I apologize.
              1. Serg65 20 January 2020 11: 04 New
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                Quote: tihonmarine
                I’ll already say 20% is true, and 80% as God will send.

                Well, then why mow under the sailor? You constantly fall into the sky with your finger !!!
                Quote: tihonmarine
                naturally silent to yourself

                Many people know about me at VO .... I don’t hide it, captain-lieutenant of the USSR Navy!
                Quote: tihonmarine
                I asked you somehow, for whom I work

                I work for myself and for my family! I just hate it when a person gives himself out not for who he is! Be yourself and don’t get into the hole!
                Quote: tihonmarine
                I wonder where you are and to whom else you’re spreading it.

                laughing Don’t be afraid, funnels no longer travel at night!
                1. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 11: 39 New
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                  Quote: Serg65
                  I work for myself and for my family! I just hate it when a person gives himself out not for who he is!

                  A person or someone who follows others, and another 4 years. And only this is for me, but many more for whom. It is very scary to communicate with people like you "agent 007". It is not known where and what will come out, but certainly you are not working for your family (or now the family is called that). And who I am and what I’m doing is better for you not to know, and not to know about others, we will all sleep better.
                  1. Serg65 20 January 2020 14: 33 New
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                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    A person or someone who follows others, and another 4 years

                    If you had not carried nonsense on a marine theme, I would not have noticed you, I would have passed by!
                  2. tihonmarine 20 January 2020 14: 48 New
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                    Quote: Serg65
                    If you had not carried nonsense on a marine theme, I would not have noticed you, I would have passed by!

                    Maybe I’m carrying nonsense, but you, I think, haven’t even seen the sea, except for the Marquise puddle.
                  3. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 00: 26 New
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                    Quote: Serg65
                    If you had not carried nonsense on a marine theme, I would not have noticed you, I would have passed by!

                    So you yourself said, "I have been watching you for 4 years." Well, I noticed you a long time ago.
              2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 00: 29 New
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                Quote: Serg65
                Well, then why mow under the sailor? You constantly fall into the sky with your finger !!!

                Sir, a finger at you !!! I like to say that you ..... Well, I'm sorry !!!
                1. Serg65 21 January 2020 06: 33 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Sir, a finger at you !!! I like to say that you ..... Well, I'm sorry !!!

                  laughing Eco flooded you then !!!! How many times you poked your nose, but you still did not understand that, the marine theme is very specific and the specialist will immediately understand who is in front of him! After reading a couple of articles about the fleet, you can’t become a sailor, Vlad!
                  Yes, by the way, Vlad, are you not familiar with Denisyuk, Levashov and Tikhonov?
                2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 09: 08 New
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                  Quote: Serg65
                  Eco flooded you then !!!! How many times you poked your nose, but you still did not understand that, the marine theme is very specific and the specialist will immediately understand who is in front of him!

                  I have a neighbor Yasha, lieutenant commander, Frunze graduated with a hydrograph and served 25 years as the head of the lighthouse service, went to sea on the BGK in the autumn to shoot duck islands, but drank a glass of "For those who are at sea." Well, here you are the same drop, and maybe a zavskladom (most likely), but from ourselves we build a moroman. I wrote to you that such drops do not go beyond the Marquise puddle. Good luck in the difficult "marine" and "tracking" work.
                3. Serg65 21 January 2020 09: 25 New
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                  Well, here you are the same drop

                  laughing Well, maybe, maybe ... BUT, still a drop, not a balabol-dreamer !!!! wink
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I wrote to you that such drops do not go beyond the Marquise puddle

                  laughing
                  Fedya likes swimming in the bath:
                  Caravans sail from boats.
                  Goes to his port a big ferry
                  It has a car, a ball, a house.
                  Calm down already, "naval commander"! lol
                4. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 09: 36 New
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                  Quote: Serg65
                  Well, maybe, maybe ... BUT, still a drop, not a balabol-dreamer !!

                  I think you were the head of the floating ship, or the club. Kapleysky position, there are few ships in the Navy, you need to shove valuable personnel. And all my life, balabol and enjoy life, here I sit at work and from idleness I write "opera" for you.
                5. Serg65 21 January 2020 09: 45 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I think

                  So you really surprised me right now? what
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  You were the chief of a floating ship

                  bully A smart post, you can only dream about it !!!
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  or club

                  No, education is not profile! Here either Kiev or Lviv, which is most likely, and I studied in St. Petersburg wink
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I sit at work and from idleness I am writing an "opera" for you.

                  laughing Oper said to write about everyone?
                6. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 09: 58 New
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                  Quote: Serg65
                  I studied in St. Petersburg

                  I understood it and wrote that the operas or secret officer did not go beyond the Marquise puddle. There was one training in St. Petersburg for you, it even finished the GDP.
                7. Serg65 21 January 2020 10: 13 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  opera or secret employee

                  For your incomplete school education ... operas or a secret officer did not go to sea at all! bully
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  There was one training in St. Petersburg for you, it even finished the GDP

                  laughing my dear visionary, if I finished the 401th bursa, then we would have a completely different but more interesting conversation!
              3. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 10: 09 New
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                So you really surprised me right now?

                Okay, stop dogging. I, too, will write various dirty tricks, and then it’s also unpleasant for me. Excuse me.
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                hi Have a nice one you too!
  • tihonmarine 18 January 2020 12: 44 New
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    Quote: Serg65
    Vlad, they’ve already explained to you popularly, tie a mow under the sailor!

    Well, I have not read for a long time, your bot's messages, Happy New Year.
  • tihonmarine 21 January 2020 00: 19 New
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    Quote: Serg65
    Vlad, they’ve already explained to you popularly, tie a mow under the sailor!

    Comrade Captain Lieutenant of the infantry, well, tell us the infantry what the fleet is, and what the ships are. I am plowing, and you ??
  • tihonmarine 21 January 2020 01: 06 New
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    Quote: Serg65
    What are you talking about now?

    Yes, I’m all about the same “Pyahot” that you didn’t reach. Ku-Ku !!!
  • donavi49 17 January 2020 17: 38 New
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    And it was also possible to build on the Lotus or even where the thread on the Yenisei.

    That is the point ??? For NHA, this is the first and LAST tanker. For this project, this is the main last tanker.

    New is building the Gulf, according to an updated project.


    And yes - it’s also 6 years, but the result is even less ...
    According to Mil.Press FlotProm web resource, the fate of two marine tankers of project 23131, laid down on December 26, 2014 in Kerch, remains foggy. Ships are being built for the Russian Navy, their planned to transfer to the fleet in 2017–2018. However, the hull of the first tanker has still not left the workshop and has not been launched. On October 25, Mil.Press FlotProm sources at the Zaliv construction plant and the Design Bureau of the Spetssudoproekt tankers found it difficult to answer the question about the status of the construction of ships.



    This is last year.

    At present - an autumn vidos from the shipyard. Two RSD chutes are hanging side by side, two stackers are being built, well, every little thing. Tankers are not visible.
  • 75 Sergey 17 January 2020 15: 32 New
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    Is he an ice class?
    1. 955535 17 January 2020 16: 43 New
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      According to the classification of RMRS - ARC5
      1. 75 Sergey 18 January 2020 00: 10 New
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        What does it mean?
        1. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 21 New
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          Arc4 (Л1) - Independent navigation in rarefied annual Arctic ice with a thickness of up to 0,6 m in winter-spring navigation and up to 0,8 m in summer-autumn navigation. Sailing in the channel behind the icebreaker in annual Arctic ice up to 0,7 m thick in winter-spring and up to 1,0 m in summer-autumn navigation.
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  • 955535 17 January 2020 16: 41 New
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    Actually, the tanker is legally a part of the Navy since December 21, i.e. from the moment of signing the acceptance certificate
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    Build a DWT tanker of 9000 tons over 2 years, and three to experience is the verdict of our ship building industry.
    1. 955535 18 January 2020 12: 25 New
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      Sea trials began on May 16, 2018. What two years are we talking about? Of this period, half went to interagency friction between the plant and the Navy on the issue of paying for fuel and overhead. At the same time, the tanker stupidly stood against the wall in the Baltiysk Military Harbor
  • Brylevsky 18 January 2020 23: 27 New
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    Quote: 955535
    Fuel oil must not be poured into tanks with diesel fuel.

    My experience says something else. Mixing these two petroleum products is unacceptable, yes. And in fact, the DT was poured into cargo tanks cleaned from IFO-180 fuel oil, "for good luck." In the early 2000s, I worked on tankers in the Far East. Tankers of the type “Ventspils” and “Kaliningrad Oil”, all DWT 5000 tons. Flights to China and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky alternated with flights to the Okhotsk and Berengomorsk expeditions, where fishermen bunkered. Tankers were always loaded with a full load, that is, tanks after fuel oil delivery somewhere in China or Petropavlovsk had to be steamed and cleaned before receiving diesel fuel from the tank farm in Vladivostok, Nakhodka or Vanino. Yes, it’s a “haemorrhoid” for the headman, Donkermans and the deck crew, but it’s an inevitable evil that you had to put up with ... If a fuel oil tank is normally steamed and washed with washing machines with “chemistry”, you can fill it with at least aviation gasoline. And on tankers during the Great Patriotic War, grain was also transported to exclude ballast transitions ... I do not know a single national or international governing document that would prohibit the filling of diesel fuel into prepared tankin which there was fuel oil.
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      There is no steam boiler or tank steaming system on Pashin. In the conditions of the Arctic, the crew is tormented to scrub fuel oil and wash tanks.
      And in the Northern Fleet of ships, there were practically no consumers of fuel oil. Kuznetsov in endless repair, the destroyer Ushakov does not go to sea often.
    2. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 00: 23 New
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      Quote: Brylevsky
      And in fact, the DT was poured into cargo tanks cleaned from IFO-180 fuel oil, "for good luck."

      For happiness !!! And if I got the F-5, then I don’t know how to say it ??? Pyahota will not understand.
    3. tihonmarine 21 January 2020 01: 13 New
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      Quote: Brylevsky
      My experience says something else.

      I forgot a long time! We are seafarers forgetful people, but the shipping company is dancing and singing! But we do not forget that the sea for us is "The sea is the sea" !!! We are moroman !!!