Ukrainian experts said they found out the cause of the crash of the Boeing before the Iranians

Experts from Ukraine involved in identifying the causes of the crash of the Boeing 737-800 passenger plane, earlier than Iranian experts, determined the cause of the crash. The investigation of the scene of the accident, the wreckage of the plane, the surviving personal belongings of passengers and crew helped them understand this.

This was told by the head of the Kiev Research Institute of Forensic Expertise (KNIISE) Alexander Ruvin. The specialists of this scientific institution were part of a group of Ukrainian experts who arrived in Iran.

According to Ruvin, Ukrainians were the first to determine that the plane was hit by a rocket. This happened on January 10th. The director of the KNIISE said that the experts carefully examined and examined every detail of the aircraft, determined the places where the striking elements of the rocket or explosive device hit. Having restored the picture of the incident, they were able to understand what happened.

Later, Iranian representatives asked to cover the film with fragments of the plane and stop filming. Ukrainian experts agreed to come the next morning, January 11th. They were only allowed in at 11 o’clock, but Iranian experts were no longer there. Soon, Tehran officially pleaded guilty to the death of a passenger airliner.

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[jovanni]

Ukrainian experts on downed passenger aircraft are the most experienced in the world. Themselves won over how many ...

[Invoce]

Quote: Jovanni

Ukrainian experts on downed passenger aircraft are the most experienced in the world. Themselves won over how many ...

The question is whether EXPERTS or not. In this case, the Ukrainians were EXPERTS. Received high-quality education in the USSR. And to find out the reasons for the crash of the aircraft, it was not necessary to conduct research. Everything was visible with the naked eye

[Shurik70]

Quote: Invoce

In this case, the Ukrainians were EXPERTS

The plane was shot down on the 8th
Let them arrived already on the night of the 9th.
On the 10th they have already (I quote): "they carefully examined and examined every detail of the aircraft, determined the places where the striking elements of a rocket or explosive device hit"
Tell me how a real expert can do it in a day. inspect every detail thoroughly the plane.

Although in a particular case it is more likely illiterate PR from Ruvin.
After all, to determine the hit of a rocket, just see one single piece of skin pierced by striking elements... Too typical damage. And you don't have to be an "expert of the Soviet school" for this.

[svp67]

Quote: Shurik70

Tell me how a real expert can thoroughly inspect every detail of an airplane in a day.

In this judgment of yours, the letter "Y" is missing. Not an "expert", but "experts". 10 there was already a whole Ukrainian delegation of specialists.

[Shurik70]

Yes, at least EXPERT.
To understand what happened, it is enough to find one piece of casing with characteristic holes.
Here is a photo from the scene.

[svp67]

Quote: Shurik70

To understand what happened, it is enough to find one piece of casing with characteristic holes.

Yes, you can't even imagine how far you are from understanding this issue. And from where do you have confidence that the holes did not appear at the moment of touching the ground or which of the violent local residents decided to shoot from their "karamushtuk".
No, it's not enough to find this piece of paneling with holes. It is necessary to understand where he was on the plane, whether the objects flying through him and leaving these holes could cause fatal damage that led to the crash. Try to find these "items". A lot of work

[Shurik70]

Believe me, even a poorly educated expert will distinguish a hole that appears from a striking element flying at a speed higher than or close to a sound one, from a hole obtained after a collision with a stone during a fall. The hole is too characteristic.
And the Ukrainians sent the best of those that they could find.
And at the expense of what damage was caused by a particular hole - the very fact of the shelling is important.
In a month, they will assemble a puzzle from the wreckage, and it will be possible to count ALL the holes. Then it will be possible to talk about damage, not earlier. True, by that time it will no longer be important.

[svp67]

Quote: Shurik70

Believe me, even a poorly educated expert will distinguish a hole that appears from a striking element flying at a speed higher than or close to a sound one, from a hole obtained after a collision with a stone during a fall.

Stones during an explosion, the same can have a speed close to sonic.

[svp67]

Quote: Invoce

Everything was visible with the naked eye

Sorry, but this is not an argument for such a commission and investigation. Everything should be clearly documented.

[Thrall]

After that, as the capital of Ukraine was renamed Kuev, I am no longer surprised at anything

[Dur_mod]

Aliens shared info with you?

[major147]

Quote: Thrall

After that, as the capital of Ukraine was renamed Kuev, I am no longer surprised at anything

I have one, but after 2 warnings I did not dare to post. It's just interesting that the "artist" had? In mind. What offended him?

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Jovanni

Ukrainian experts on downed passenger aircraft are the most experienced in the world. Themselves won over how many ...

Of course, this is what Ukrainian President Kuchma said after the downing of a Russian Tu-154 passenger plane over the Black Sea in 2001. Like do not make a tragedy, we are not the first, and we are not the last.

[Thrall]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Like do not make a tragedy, we are not the first, and we are not the last

I remember this moment. My jaw simply fell off his cynicism then. And after the Maidan, you are not surprised at anything.

[prior]

So it follows from the words of the Ukrainian ex-president that there is no tragedy in the fact that the Iranians shot down the Ukrainian Boeing. A downed plane of Ukraine is not the last ....
The topic can be closed.
Boomerang is back.

[midshipman]

I met this president (I saw him for the first time) in 1981. My Minister Pleshakov, P.S. arrived at Yuzhmash (there was an extended meeting). Kuchma was the secretary of the Yuzhmash party committee and played guitar and sang a song before the meeting. I asked Pyotr Stepanovich: "Who is this?" The minister, smiling, answered me: "Another".:.

[svp67]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Of course, that’s what Ukrainian President Kuchma said after

The worst thing is that after that they again went into "unconsciousness" and if the Israelis were paid something there, then the Russian side, including the airline, were left without payments. And after all this, the Ukrainians are trying to accuse us of something ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Jovanni

Ukrainian experts on downed passenger aircraft are the most experienced in the world. Themselves won over how many beat them ..

Well, you need to show yourself loved, so that the whole world speaks about us. And here is where these "experts" were when the TU-154 was shot down. Interesting ?

[4ekist]

And then these experts successfully applied their skills in August 2008 in South Ossetia, Georgia. And now they live not in poverty, they have received apartments and orders.

[major147]

Quote: tihonmarine

And here is where these "experts" were when the TU-154 was shot down. Interesting ?

They learned from their "supporters". Those "successfully" conducted an "investigation" against the claim for compensation from Aeroflot for the downed plane , refused, because they didn’t shoot down any airplane!

[major147]

Quote: Jovanni

Ukrainian experts

They voiced the version indicated by them striped owners.

[Karaul73]

Do not fly to Ukraine. They will knock everything down.

[Operator]

Is there really a reason for jamming a Boeing transponder by a third party?

[Invoce]

Probably jamming the transponder is one of the stages of the operation to discredit the IRGC and Iran

[KCA]

I’m not familiar with transponders, but it’s logical to assume that they work in a strict frequency range, of course, no unpredictable frequency change, drown out a specific object like two fingers on asphalt

[Avior]

when jamming the transponder, he would have disappeared from the radar flight, but he would not have disappeared.
There is still no transponder signal receiver on the Torah

[Operator]

And that - even after the crash of the Boeing, the signal did not disappear?

And at the Iranian air defense base, located directly under the flight route from Tehran International Airport, there is no Internet and access to the FlightRadar website "- how have they still not shot down a bunch of civilian aircraft?

[Avior]

I do not know. But definitely not on the Torah.
Tor is a short-range system with a maximum range of all 12 km. literally seconds, maximum tens of seconds- and the target leaves the affected area, once the Internet can play

[Dimy4]

Ukrainian experts found out the reason before the liner fell.

[gurzuf]

Well, a Ukrainian expert, from birth - an academician.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dimy4

Ukrainian experts found out the reason before the liner fell.

Or maybe even before take-off.

[major147]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Dimy4

Ukrainian experts found out the reason before the liner fell.

Or maybe even before take-off.

Why be surprised !? The wreckage of the "Donbass" Boeing was still falling, and the giblets were already screaming at full speed that "Russia had shot down"!

[mikstepanenko]

And the record of the "negotiations of the Donetsk terrorists" where they "confessed" that they had shot down a civilian plane was published on YouTube two hours before the event. And edited from real scraps of negotiations the day before.

[75 Sergey]

They knew the campaign the day before its take-off ... why didn’t they say it?

[Mordor]

The kingdom of heaven is lost. And the authorities of Ukraine, once again PR on the mountain!

[Karaul73]

Many of those present on the site and writing stupid comments for the sake of pluses are also publicizing on the mountain.

[Vladimir61]

Who would doubt that! They taught the Sumerians the wheel to do.

[askort154]

Later, Iranian representatives asked to film the fragments of the plane and stop filming.

How did you get there before the representatives of Iran? Usually, the aircraft fall zone is guarded. The Ukrainians themselves in the zone of the fall of MN-17, for several days did not let anyone in, noticing the traces leading to them.

[Avior]

actually MH17 fell in the territory of the DPR.

[askort154]

Avior ....actually MH17 fell in the territory of the DPR.

Annoying memory error Thanks for the amendment!

[rotmistr60]

Who would doubt that Ukrainian "experts" are the most expert in the world, especially on civilian aircraft downed. So they submitted information that it can be concluded that without them and their assumptions Iran would not admit guilt. Citizens need to be more modest, more modest.

[Jarserge]

Clear business. All provocations with Boeing are born in the USA. They told the puppet, along with instructions, to say who to blame ...

[Strashila]

Confirm the obvious, cool.
Only here is the question of why rockets flew into an airplane, Ukraine’s share of responsibility in this.

[iouris]

And we continue to wait for the conclusion of the official commission.

[orionvitt]

Ukrainian experts said they found out the cause of the crash of the Boeing before the Iranians

Of course, to voice the opinion of the owner in hindsight is a sign of special skill. And yet, before anyone else in the world, they figured out what is the meaning of life and universal happiness. It turns out to be in the Maidan and in the "containment of Russian aggression." And in general, judging by the events of recent years, the concept of "Ukrainian expert" is tantamount to a spherical horse in a vacuum. Have listened.

[Aliken]

In the same company with the "English scientists".

[Aliken]

Braggers. "Experts", hilarious. They stick out here too.

[Dizel200]

What kind of nation is this, Ukrainians ????))))) pah, to be honest it’s somehow unpleasant that they are the same Slavs