Virtual Import: Ukraine refuses to build a new gas pipeline for US LNG

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The head of the operator of the gas transmission system of Ukraine Sergey Makogon made a statement that is generally out of the ordinary rhetoric system. According to Makogon, for Ukraine there is no point in connecting with Poland with a new gas pipeline to supply regasified American LNG.

We are talking about a gas pipeline through which, as previously noted, Ukraine could "exchange" with Poland American LNG, which would come by sea. A terminal for LNG is being completed in Poland. And as experts say, it will cost the Polish economy too expensive.



Makogon about refusing to build a new gas pipeline:

The cost of the new project is about $ 200 million. We decided to abandon such a pipeline. We will focus on the reconstruction of two branches of gas supplies to Poland - Geranovichi and Drozdovichi. About 6,6 billion cubic meters of gas per year can be pumped through them, and this covers the needs of today by about 80%.

According to Sergey Makogon, “virtual import” is now possible for Ukraine. Now this is exactly what the company-operator of the Ukrainian GTS calls “reverse”. It is noted that “virtual import” refers to the withdrawal of a part of the volumes of gas that was sent from Russia to Poland under a contract and which Poland, as it were, “reversed” to Ukraine.

Macogon:

This means that Ukraine will be able to additionally buy about 3,2 billion cubic meters of gas a year from Warsaw.

Recall that earlier Poland signed a memorandum with the US Department of Energy on the supply of LNG from the United States to the Swinoujscie terminal.

The cost of such gas for Poland will cost about 30-35% higher than pipe gas from the Russian Federation.
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  1. +14
    17 January 2020 06: 21
    The cost of LNG is 30 - 35% higher than pipe gas ... let them buy, you have to pay for Pansky Honor, you just might not notice how you will be left without pants ... Germany (the main sponsor of the European Union) is tired of this “suitcase without a handle” in the form Of Poland.
    What is interesting ... the brothers and here everyone on Deceived. laughing
    1. +7
      17 January 2020 06: 33
      Quote: Hunter 2
      LNG cost is 30 - 35% higher than pipe gas ...

      This is for Poland more expensive by 30-35%. But when delivered to Ukraine, the Poles will want to make money. What figure these percentages will turn into - it will be necessary to look still. laughing At least the profitability of 15-20 percent will be thrown from above, transit through the territory of Poland will be estimated at something ..... These supposed 6-7 billion cubic meters of gas will be "golden". You have to pay for "molecules of freedom" laughing
      1. +1
        17 January 2020 07: 30
        What to say ...
        Someone ate brains ...
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          1. +2
            17 January 2020 10: 47
            Quote: maxim947
            Lithuania dreamed of becoming a major gas hub in Europe and finally gaining complete independence from Russia - was blown away


            The Stena Clear Sky tanker with a large batch of Russian liquefied natural gas arrived in Klaipeda port on the morning of September 17, according to data from the Marinetraffic.com website. It is reported by RIA Novosti.
            Earlier, the Kommersant newspaper reported, citing sources, that Lithuania, which was striving to reduce its dependence on energy supplies from the Russian Federation, would first buy a large-tonnage batch of Russian liquefied gas. According to the publication, the LNG batch from the Novateka Yamal LNG project was reloaded in the French Montoire onto the Stena Clear Sky vessel and headed to Klaipeda.
            According to Marinetraffic.com, the Stena Clear Sky tanker arrived at the port of Klaipeda on September 17 at 10:23 Lithuanian time.
            Sources of Kommersant reported that the French company Total acted as a seller, and the buyer was the Lithuanian energy state-owned company Lietuvos energijos tiekimas (renamed Ignitis from September 9). However, a source close to Ignitis said that the Stena Clear Sky cargo was most likely intended for Lithuanian fertilizer producer Achema.
      2. +1
        17 January 2020 09: 33
        It is unlikely that Poland will completely refuse Russian gas, for it is very profitable to resell it as American LNG.
        But Ukraine doesn’t want to buy gas from PIG estuary ...
        Yes, and with American LNG is not interesting - "selection" will not work.
      3. +4
        17 January 2020 15: 54
        Quote: Den717
        Quote: Hunter 2
        LNG cost is 30 - 35% higher than pipe gas ...

        This is for Poland more expensive by 30-35%. But when delivered to Ukraine, the Poles will want to make money. What figure these percentages will turn into - it will be necessary to look still. laughing At least the profitability of 15-20 percent will be thrown from above, transit through the territory of Poland will be estimated at something ..... These supposed 6-7 billion cubic meters of gas will be "golden". You have to pay for "molecules of freedom" laughing

        Yes, and these 35% I think is not the last price. As soon as deliveries go, the US will quickly think about pricing. And then the pshek will be gone nowhere.
    2. +9
      17 January 2020 07: 35
      . According to Makogon, for Ukraine there is no point in connecting with Poland with a new gas pipeline to supply regasified American LNG.

      For Russia, this is a "mouse fuss";
      For Poland - another "kidok" of a "predictable" neighbor;
      For the United States - increased irritation nenkoy;
      For Sergei Magakon - the prospect of a hotel room, with a maid or minor, for ... outrageous sexual abuse crying
    3. +5
      17 January 2020 08: 29
      Quote: Hunter 2
      let them buy, for Pansky Honor You need to pay, they just can’t notice how they will remain without pants ...

      In fact, the European Union will pay. Poland still lives on fat subsidies from the EU (and therefore lives well). They will only be cut somewhere in the mid-20s, emnip.
      1. +1
        17 January 2020 10: 54
        Quote: Kuroneko
        In fact, the European Union will pay. Poland still lives on fat subsidies from the EU (and therefore lives well). They will only be cut somewhere in the mid-20s, emnip.


        "It's no secret that Poland, as an EU country, is one of the largest recipients of European aid among the rest of the EU. It is known that by 2020 from the EU budget to support programs aimed at improving the quality and standard of living, as well as the competitiveness of the economy, another 20 billion euros have been issued. the needs of any of the sectors of the economy. "
        1. +2
          17 January 2020 12: 18
          Have you been to Poland recently?
          Was this year.
          Poland licked worse than Germany. Some tracks are worth a sight for sore eyes.
          The EU has a system with these subsidies - if part of the money for the project comes from the EU, then the EU tightly controls the entire project so that nothing is sided.
          I don’t know whether the Poles themselves ordered it that way, or the EU forced them to prevent it from being pulled away, but the effect of these subsidies in Poland is very noticeable, even enviable.
          It is very different from that of Poland, which I first got in 2004, shortly after joining the EU, this money was clearly not wasted.
          hi
          1. +1
            17 January 2020 12: 50
            Quote: Avior
            Poland licked worse than Germany.

            This is why the EU "shed" a "golden rain" on Poland. When subsidies stop, can they not waste this "capital"?
          2. +4
            17 January 2020 12: 57
            Quote: Avior
            Have you been to Poland recently?
            Was this year.
            Poland licked worse than Germany. Some tracks are worth a sight for sore eyes.

            Have you read what they wrote on this issue? A sight for sore eyes will disappear as soon as they find out who the banquet will pay for:
            The Polish government has actually recognized that all the economic successes of the state over the past three decades are primarily associated with obtaining soft loans. Cabinet Mateusz Moravecki notes that all budgets for the mentioned period were scarce. Poland systematically got into debt, which sooner or later had to be repaid.

            https://topwar.ru/161707-polskoe-pravitelstvo-priznalo-chto-desjatkami-let-polsha-zhivet-v-dolg.html
            I recalled the former SFRY - so there Tito also arranged a better life at the expense of Western loans, and where is that Yugoslavia now ...
          3. +2
            17 January 2020 21: 41
            No doubt, for the 200 billion euros received from the EU, you can build roads in Poland and lick the facades. It is possible to increase the welfare of its citizens. Let's look at this miracle after 2020. I have no feeling that the Poles are much more hardworking than their Romanian neighbors and Bulgarians.
    4. +2
      17 January 2020 11: 58
      ukroklunam should still do:
      Euro-glue g-separate from the aggressor (let him kill Ukrzaliza, but they will live separately from the mordor)
      -Go to the left wheel, as in civil England and Japan.
      -el \ network to separate, + gas-oil network to separate
      -go to dr brick size 9 from the shovel)
      - bitumen ready to be imported from America,
      sizes of clothes and shoes change (
      THEN AND WILL BECOME EUROPE - AS SEED MACEDONIA - right past Great Romania
      1. -1
        18 January 2020 17: 48
        Forgot 110v and 60 hertz as in bright valinor ..
  2. +3
    17 January 2020 06: 22
    30-35% higher than pipe gas from the Russian Federation.
    But the gas is saturated with American democracy!
    1. -3
      17 January 2020 07: 26
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      But the gas is saturated with American democracy!

      And in the price of this "democracy" will the impeachment of the Trumpet go? laughing
    2. +5
      17 January 2020 08: 35
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      But the gas is saturated with American democracy!

      I think, often in fact they will use our aggressive LNG, just fictitiously posting it as documents like LNG dimacratic... This has been done more than once, at least with the supply of allegedly "American" coal to Ukraine. They were loaded with cheap Russian coal in Ust-Luga, then passing it off as Pennsylvania coal. And Cho, money does not smell, and the extra fat will not hurt.
      1. +3
        17 January 2020 09: 25
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        30-35% higher than pipe gas from the Russian Federation.
        But the gas is saturated with American democracy!


        And Makogon is a very resounding surname, maybe an entertainer can be added to the gas. lol
      2. mnl
        +1
        17 January 2020 16: 29
        And so it is done, not often, but in all cases)
  3. +1
    17 January 2020 06: 24
    The cost of the new project is about $ 200 million. We decided to abandon such a pipeline. We will focus on the reconstruction of two branches of gas supplies to Poland - Geranovichi and Drozdovichi. About 6,6 billion cubic meters of gas per year can be pumped through them, and this covers the needs of today by about 80%.

    The remaining 20% ​​or more is stolen from the Russian pipe, but why don’t they get used to it, don’t blush, don’t apologize! hi
    1. +3
      17 January 2020 07: 02
      Ukraine in relation to the Russian "aggressor" has long positioned itself in a state of the Cold War, and in war all means are good.
    2. +1
      17 January 2020 07: 28
      Quote: Fantazer911
      don't apologize!

      And how does such a word sound in Ukrainian?
      And is it at all.
      How many of them I know they always have someone else to blame and therefore apologize is not
  4. +4
    17 January 2020 06: 56
    What they just don't make up so that it doesn't sound in Ukraine that it uses Russian gas. But at least they honestly admitted that the so-called. "reverse" is just "virtual import", although they take the gas that has not even reached Poland. And how many bravura statements and shouts on Russian talk shows that they have long since given up on Russian gas. Yes, even if they distill the manure - they are tired of colic. Whoever is destined to die will die under any circumstances.
  5. +2
    17 January 2020 07: 00
    "Through them it is possible to pump about 6,6 billion cubic meters of gas per year, and this covers the needs of today by about 80%."
    Good. 6,2 lard - 80%
    Where then they still have 3,2 lard?))) Arithmetic does not converge)))
    "This means that Ukraine will be able to additionally buy from Warsaw about 3,2 billion cubic meters of gas per year."
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  7. 0
    17 January 2020 07: 21
    The head of the operator of the gas transmission system of Ukraine Sergey Makogon made a statement that is generally out of the ordinary rhetoric system.

    Something like this will be heard from Fashington.
  8. +1
    17 January 2020 07: 59
    Macogon:

    "This means that Ukraine will be able to additionally buy from Warsaw about 3,2 billion cubic meters of gas per year." This scheme lacks the main indicator, namely, "unauthorized selection" that is, it (the project) is not initially suitable for Ukraine.
  9. 0
    17 January 2020 08: 30
    The LNG terminal has been operating for two years. Now the North Sea gas pipeline is under construction
  10. +2
    17 January 2020 08: 35
    So they are engaged in such a reverse all the time ...
    1. +2
      17 January 2020 09: 21
      And in another technologically impossible way. Yes
  11. +2
    17 January 2020 09: 17
    Ukraine today is unable to build anything at all, except perhaps a toilet or a medical center in the village.
    1. +3
      17 January 2020 12: 59
      Quote: Ivan Osipov
      Well, maybe a toilet or a medical center in the village.

      Do not minimize their capabilities - they also managed to open a new bus stop at Poroshenko.
  12. +4
    17 January 2020 09: 21
    The cost of such gas for Poland will cost about 30-35% higher than pipe gas from the Russian Federation.


    Peremoga or ...
  13. +4
    17 January 2020 09: 30
    Even if they drown the dung, it’s what matters to us.
  14. +3
    17 January 2020 10: 35
    The cost of such gas for Poland will cost about 30-35% higher than pipe gas from the Russian Federation.

    This is the price of a carrot in front of the face. In order to make such a supply attractive to some extent. When the job is done, a couple of clicks and Poland will be planted not a needle, a count of LNG.
  15. 0
    17 January 2020 18: 09
    The mattresses once again famously bred zheks on the headstock. Interestingly, in Warsaw someday they will begin to think or will live according to the instructions of the Washington Reich Chancellery.