Crouching Iran, Hiding Israel: What is Between the Two Countries

In the context of a sharply aggravated crisis in the Middle East, one of the most acute moments is the real possibility of a sharp tightening of the confrontation between the main antagonists there - Tehran and Tel Aviv. About how "warm" and "friendly" feelings feed each other in these capitals, and there is no need to talk. One exchange of mutual "courtesies" between their leaders, in which the accusations of terrorism and epithets like "little Satan" are still quite innocent statements, which is worth it.

Could the old enmity grow into something more, result in an armed conflict, or is there at least some chance of the peaceful coexistence of these irreconcilable regimes?

Based on information periodically leaking into the Israeli media that has its source, according to reporters, leading analysts of the intelligence services of this country, this year should be decisive in all respects in the protracted confrontation. On the one hand, IDF intelligence officers are confident: the amount of enriched uranium needed to create nuclear weapons, Iran will possess until the end of 2020. To a large extent this is confirmed by quite risky statements made from Tehran itself. So, on January 16, Hassan Rouhani publicly told that today his country “is enriching uranium even more than before the conclusion of the nuclear deal” and “is progressing, despite increased sanctions pressure”. It is clear that such demarches do not add optimism or confidence in Israel tomorrow.

On the other hand, they still do not lose hope not so much on the sanity of the Iranian leadership as on the force of influence on it by representatives of world powers who are completely not interested in the outbreak of war with the use of atomic weapons in the Middle East. As such, Israel is no longer considered so much the United States as Russia and China, which have a very real influence on Tehran. Recently, Turkey has also added to this list, literally breaking into the Middle East “alignments” and by all means trying to become one of the main forces in them. It is the understanding by the leaders of these states of the moment that with the receipt of the nuclear “argument” Tehran will become even more unpredictable and even less manageable and will give Israel that small share of optimism that it has on the Iranian issue.

However, there is one more positive factor. In certain circles of both the political and military elites of Israel, they are convinced that the death of Kassem Suleimani gives the Israeli side a certain “room for maneuver” and, at least, some time to take a breath and try to build new strategies in the Iranian direction. This is due to the fact that his deputy, who replaced Suleymani as the head of Al-Quds, the IRGC, despite his fairly extensive experience and professionalism, is still a figure of a completely different level. In this regard, Israel is very hopeful of weakening (at least temporarily) Iran’s ties with those forces that they consider their main enemies: Hezbollah and others. And also - to the fact that Russia, due to its “disinterest in strengthening Tehran’s regional influence,” will at least not prevent the Israeli side from delivering “targeted” attacks aimed at weakening it. Certain events - for example, the recent IDF attack carried out by the IDF at the T4 military airbase in Syrian Homs, suggest that they have some ground under them.

There are two possible strategies regarding Iran, the adherents of which in Israel today have real weight and influence. "Hotheads" see in his current "weakening" a real chance for "dismantling the axis of evil of the pro-Iranian forces", which threaten the national security of the "promised land" and call for the most decisive offensive actions.

More restrained and realistic politicians believe that in no case should one try to “force” the situation, since the consequences can be completely unpredictable for the entire region, and their price is unbearable. In the end, the “total war” with Iran is not included in the plans of even the most fierce Israeli “hawks”. Apparently, in Israel they intend not to make “sudden movements” yet, but to wait and take a closer look at any actions of Tehran.

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[SETTGF]

Quote: Military Review Crouching Iran, Hiding Israel - what is happening between the two countries

More restrained and realistic politicians believe that in no case should one try to “force” the situation, since the consequences can be completely unpredictable for the entire region, and their price is unbearable

Time heals, but not always ...

[Megatron]

Let us fight.

[Pecheneg]

Israel will never wait. He will play ahead of the curve.

[antivirus]

to the madness of the brave, we sing a song ... did they read Morky?

[Dmitry Vinner]

= Silent with the USA = January 4th. Aircraft attacked the positions of pro-Iranian militias in the area of ​​Al-Bukamal on the Syrian-Iraqi border.

January 8. SOHR says planes attacked targets in the village of Al-Majawda, near Al-Bukamal, where pro-Iranian militias are stationed. On this day, in the Al-Sambli area, near Al-Bukamal, there was a transfer of heavy weapons and armored vehicles from the pro-Iranian militias to the Lebanese Hezbollah.
January 9. SOHR reports: planes attacked targets near Al-Jala and Al-Abbas, near Al-Bukamal.

January 10. SOHR reports: Aircrafts attacked positions of pro-Iranian armed formations in the area of ​​the city of Al-Bukamal on the Syrian-Iraqi border. Lebanese TV channel Al-Mayadin, associated with Hezbollah, claims it was an Israeli Air Force attack. According to the TV channel, a truck with weapons on its way from Iraq to Syria was destroyed. SOHR claims a massive attack that hit vehicles and weapons depots and killed at least eight militants of the paramilitary Al-Hashd al-Shaabi militia.

January 14th. The strike was struck at the military airfield T4 in the province of Homs. The missile defense system was activated.
GB-M If you don’t know what, then this does not mean that he was not there. But you do not know anything.

= Have you noticed the guys how abruptly the "world media" have quieted down? = Why calm down. They, unlike you, read them. And the Russian ones, yes. Quiet.

[GB-M]

Quote: Dmitry Winner

= Have you noticed the guys how abruptly the "world media" have quieted down? = Why calm down. They, unlike you, read them. And the Russian ones, yes. Quiet.

Do you like Jews to hang out here, like nobody in the world has authority and bomb what we want, etc. ..
You have always been arrogant and bloodthirsty in Israel ..
And how much do you think this will continue?

[Yrec]

My opinion is this. The main threat to Israel is the fall of the hegemon. In the market of which Jews have unlimited access (such as Russia for Belarus, only cooler), as well as direct funding from the United States. The loss of this market (or its catastrophic drying out), military and economic support from the United States, will lead Israel to the brink of dismantling. Actually, there will be many who will lead, but Israel is first in line.

[Flooding]

Quote: Yrec

The main threat to Israel is the fall of the hegemon.

But the hegemon is still hoo. Although it sometimes gets a bream.
Suggest other options.
For example, the United States is placed in such conditions when it is more expensive to stand up for a Middle Eastern partner.

[Pessimist22]

I agree with you, I still do not understand the Jews, instead of taking some steps to apply, they aggravate the situation, sooner or later Iran will do nuclear weapons, delivery vehicles and then they will impersonate the victims again.

[ZAV69]

Iran has long had delivery vehicles.

[gmb]

Do not forget that along with the Jews, millions of Palestinians will also have to be killed, for whose happiness all of world progressive humanity has been fighting for 50 years, though the money is mainly stolen

[KCA]

There is no reason to argue about the collapse of the USSR, but in recent years, well, 13, Russia every six months just falls to its knees, the economy falls apart and Russia becomes a regional power, and once again a week it attacks the Baltic states, Swedes, Norwegians, sometimes Finns, and attacks every day Poland and occupies Ukraine

[Zeev Zeev]

The main threat to Israel is the coming to power of the left, who are ready to put my country at risk for their ideals. And we will survive the rest. The USA is an important partner for the Jewish state, but far from the only one

[VicktorVR]

Is someone else providing math help for billions of dollars a year?
Although the United States is unlikely to leave Israel at its mercy, for them it will mean complete surrender.

[Zeev Zeev]

These billions account for approximately three percent of Israel’s state budget. And they do not go to our economy, but to the American one, since they can only be used to purchase American weapons.

[VicktorVR]

1. Always could be used only for the purchase of American weapons?
2. Always only threw up weapons?
3. Rumor has it that all Israeli military spending is about 4.5% of the budget, are you ready to donate 2/3 of the military budget?

I have nothing against the Jews, and even against the state of Israel.
But the facts do not need to be denied.
Someone needs Israel and these people through the United States support it.
Further there are many consequences and consequences. And analogies and allegories.
But it is everyone himself, to the extent of his depravity.

[Zeev Zeev]

Of course, someone needs Israel. Hebrews.
Now for questions.
1. In 1973 (Israel by that time was already a quarter century) when the United States began to give money to the Jewish state, this money could be used for the economy. Therefore, the share of military money was growing, and money for the development of the economy was declining. At the moment, money can only be used for the military sphere, and only for products of American manufacturers.
2. Until 1962, the United States did not sell weapons to Israel. From the word "absolutely". In 1962, several batteries of the "Hawk" air defense system were sold (not donated, sold). In 1965, they sold a couple of hundred M-48 tanks, in 1966 they began selling A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft, and in 1968 they sold Phantoms. All this was bought by Israel for its own money.
3. Rumor has it that due to the fact that we do not sell certain types of weapons to certain countries at the request of the Americans, the State of Israel loses the same amount every year.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Of course, someone needs Israel. Hebrews.
Now for questions.
1. In 1973 (Israel by that time was already a quarter century) when the United States began to give money to the Jewish state, this money could be used for the economy. Therefore, the share of military money was growing, and money for the development of the economy was declining. At the moment, money can only be used for the military sphere, and only for products of American manufacturers.
2. Until 1962, the United States did not sell weapons to Israel. From the word "absolutely". In 1962, several batteries of the "Hawk" air defense system were sold (not donated, sold). In 1965, they sold a couple of hundred M-48 tanks, in 1966 they began selling A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft, and in 1968 they sold Phantoms. All this was bought by Israel for its own money.
3. Rumor has it that due to the fact that we do not sell certain types of weapons to certain countries at the request of the Americans, the State of Israel loses the same amount every year.

1) On an ongoing basis - in 1979, for refusing Sinai. Egypt and Jordan received roughly the same money for parity.
2) In 1962, Kennedy decided to partially circumvent the American arms embargo on Israel, agreeing to sell Hawk.
3) In 1965, Germany presented the tanks,
4) 1967 - at the end of the year, after a six-day war, the Americans agreed to deliver A 4
5) Phantoms sold at 68 - everything is correct
6) Large losses - Amers give a weapon as a gift at a price higher than the market

[Zeev Zeev]

1) Yes.
2) Taki yes - 2
3) If the memory serves me right, the Germans presented the tanks in 1964, and in secret. And when it became known, Johnson began to sell already directly.
4) The Skyhawks Agreement was signed in 1966. Deliveries began in 1967.

[Krasnodar]

3) I have never heard - it will be necessary to read, although secretly they could not give them. Johnson sold them directly to Jordan, I hear about Israel for the first time
4) It is possible - I read. Although during the Six-Day Amer embargo was still valid

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

All this was bought by Israel for their money.

For shekels? Explain to us, Mr. Accountant, how it is, following the commandments:

“Don’t give to your brother’s height neither silver nor bread, nor anything else that you can give to growth; give the stranger to the stature so that the Lord your God blesses you in everything that is done by your hands on the earth into which you go to possess it. ”
- Deuteronomy 23:19, 20.

With GDP $ 18 101 117 304 You managed to accumulate external debt:
$ 217 601 521 943
https://countrymeters.info/ru/Israel/economy
And you and your compatriots are still “scratching” us about buying something for some of your own money, about building nuclear energy in Iran, or about UN resolutions that made you mad in Soviet times:

"General Moshe Dayan is seized with anger, he does not want to recognize the UN resolution."

[Zeev Zeev]

What money did you buy? You surprise me - they sold it here, they borrowed it (and still repay the loans), they saved it, then they took your gifts from the Arabs ... They didn’t get it for free, like Egypt and Syria, but bought it.

[VicktorVR]

Of course, you know better about the Jews, but I would say the Israelis.
Something the Jews of the whole world are not eager for in Israel, and I heard so many are eager / eager to leave it, that it was necessary for immigrants to impose a restriction on immigration, otherwise many passed through Israel to the USA and Europe.
Even in Russia I know many Jews who could leave, but they don’t even think about it. The reasons for all are different, but generally the same - here they are better.

1. Well, what is the problem of using the funds freed up due to American aid to the economy?
The fact that sawyers in the US defense industry feed on this is not surprising. I have no doubt that in Israel itself, many also have a good idea.
2. Individual facts, the total amount of "gifts" after all, you yourself are well aware.
3. But something still prevents Israel from becoming independent and sells what it wants to whom it wants, and to buy from whom it wants what it wants for whatever it wants? I am sure that a sober calculation. And lobbyists from the American defense industry and local corrupt officials are sure that it has nothing to do with it. As soon as another option is beneficial for Israel, it will immediately become a reality.

Israel is something like North Korea, and certain forces also need it as an agent of influence, and it is also essentially sponsored.
That does not detract from the merits of either the North Koreans or the Israelis.

[Alexga]

The main threat to Israel is the emergence in the world of that force that will glance at the 1947 UN decisions and carefully consider the map of the two states in Palestine. This will be a tragedy for many.

[Zeev Zeev]

To begin, I advise you to read the UN General Assembly resolution number 181 on the division of the British Mandatory Territory of Palestine. Especially the part that describes under what conditions this resolution comes into force.

[Alexga]

Dear, do not you think that the word I advise in communicating with strangers is not a very polite form of communication?

[Zeev Zeev]

You on the topic say what is? Have you personally read resolution 181? UN Charter? The decision of the 1922 San Remo Conference on the creation of mandated territory under the control of the British Empire? At least something related to the issue, except for mossy agitation?

[Alexga]

Yes, in childhood, your parents did not introduce you to the doctrine of politeness. I read both the Charter and Resolution No. A / RES / 181, and was interested in detail in the creation of the State and its army, and was familiar with the memoirs of the people who created the State, and I have a bunch of friends who live in different cities of Israel and constantly communicate with them. But I do not understand what causes you such aggression. Strange you, however.

[Zeev Zeev]

One question. What is the main condition for the entry into force of resolution 181?

[Alexga]

I told you that with such people I am not interested.

[Zeev Zeev]

The drain is counted. Learn the materiel.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

The main threat to Israel is the coming to power of the left

What are these? There are so many different ones today. The right is certainly better, because the right is fascism, and this is stylish, fashionable, youth.

[Zeev Zeev]

Fascism and the right are two different things. Especially in Israel.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Oh, these storytellers. And Israel is now at the forefront of explicitly nationalizing laws.

[Zeev Zeev]

Oh really? And what are the nationalist laws?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/07/2018/5b5016e29a79478ee4fe9f50

[Zeev Zeev]

Have you read the law?

[itarnmag]

We have been talking about the fall of the hegemon for many years, but it still does not fall

[taurtaurov]

Quote: itarnmag

We have been talking about the fall of the hegemon for many years, but it still does not fall

Yes, unfortunately, I heard this from childhood, and I’m already 50 years old and, much to my regret, STRIPES have started to live better and stronger than 95% percent. Why do people get this nonsense ?? , ABOUT SYRIA? , YES FOR THESE PROTECT KURDS, HOW MUCH IT TAKES YOU, HOW MUCH IT GIVES, and they pump oil, they want Iran rolled up like Iraq, Iran like us is completely surrounded by American bases

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: itarnmag

We have been talking about the fall of the hegemon for many years, but it still does not fall

I remember how we were told in the 90s how Russia was about to die. Some comrades have already died without waiting.

[3danimal]

What did you want to refute with this remark?

[Operator]

The author’s absolutely erroneous opinion: the exchange of nuclear strikes between Israel and Iran is in the interests of the Russian Federation, the USA and the Gulf countries, after which these two states will cease to be nuclear, one of them will cease to exist, and hydrocarbon prices will skyrocket.

PS I always said that trump is our person

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Operator

The author’s absolutely erroneous opinion: the exchange of nuclear strikes between Israel and Iran is in the interests of the Russian Federation, the USA and the Gulf countries, after which these two states will cease to be nuclear, one of them will cease to exist, and hydrocarbon prices will skyrocket.

PS I always said that trump is our person

Do you have such cynical humor? It’s hard to believe that a sober and healthy person desires a nuclear war at our borders ...

[Operator]

A nuclear war is better on our borders than on our borders, and in the case of Iran vs Israel, this is also an actual reduction (by self-shooting) of the number of nuclear countries in the world, which is an unambiguous blessing both for the world as a whole and for the Russian Federation and the USA in particular .

Geographical Clarification "at the borders" - between the Russian Federation and Iran are the countries of the Caucasus and Central Asia, as well as the water area of ​​the Caspian Sea.

[Krasnodar]

What are your fancy, as always, fantasies - a nuclear war in the BV, for example)). According to military forecasts, in the case of Iran using nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, together with a proxy attack, up to a million people will die in Israel, from 20 to 40 in Iran. Will Israel cease to exist after the death of 12% of the population and Hiroshima, approximately, infection around the foci of 2-3 nuclear Iranian strikes? It will not stop, even if half of the remaining population is dumped from the country. Will he then cease to possess nuclear weapons? On the contrary, it will increase it at a tower pace. Will Iran stop making nuclear weapons? Also, no, it will slowly return to the production of Hiroshima bombs in terms of power, maybe even hydrogen bungled. The problem is refugees, etc. which fall including to Russia, with a different mentality and a tower flown from a nuclear war. And oil - yes, it will jump))

[Operator]

The question is different - will Israel cease to exist after the nuclear explosion of a reactor in Dimona?

There will be no problems in the USA with Israeli refugees (probably).

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Operator

The question is different - will Israel cease to exist after the nuclear explosion of a reactor in Dimona?

There will be no problems in the USA with Israeli refugees (probably).

What Iran may have, the factory in Dimon will withstand - designed for much more serious things))

[Operator]

On occasion, tell us how you see a concrete dome holding a ground nuclear explosion reactor with a capacity of 20 kt or more?

[Krasnodar]

What concrete dome? )))
This is not the Alya Chernobyl reactor

[Operator]

Yes, even with steel - a plasma in the epicenter of a nuclear explosion doesn’t care what material to vaporize, and then irradiate the filling with neutrons.

[Krasnodar]

Once again - this is not the reactor ala Chernobyl

[Operator]

Naturally - Dimonovo weapons reactor contains many times more uranium and plutonium per fuel volume than Chernobyl power

[Krasnodar]

Ok, and like from a ground nuclear explosion, even in 40 kt, a chain reaction will go? )))

[Operator]

Yes - the massive irradiation of uranium and plutonium with neutrons works "miracles".

This is the basis for the third apocalyptic phase of escalating nuclear war (a blow to the reactors). For the Israel vs Iran conflict, this phase may well be the first and last.

[Krasnodar]

So - with a ground-based nuclear explosion of 40 or more ct, there will not be a chain reaction)) They need much more serious things that the Russian Federation, the USA, and possibly China, need.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Operator

On occasion, tell us how you see a concrete dome holding a ground nuclear explosion reactor with a capacity of 20 kt or more?

and why did you decide that something you can see when passing by along the highway is a reactor?

[Operator]

And why did you decide that the French (who built the reactor in Dimon) did not merge its construction with the Iranians, just as in 1979 they merged the political emigrant Khomeini into Shah’s Iran?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Operator

And why did you decide that the French (who built the reactor in Dimon) did not merge its construction with the Iranians, just as in 1979 they merged the political emigrant Khomeini into Shah’s Iran?

Maybe they leaked it, but I suspect that this information has not been relevant for a long time.

[Operator]

Oh come on - no one has rebuilt the nuclear reactor in Dimon since its commissioning in 1964. Moreover, the Israeli parliament in recent years has held many closed meetings on the topic of exhausting the life of this reactor and planning reconstruction activities (which have not yet been implemented).

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Operator

Oh come on - no one has rebuilt the nuclear reactor in Dimon since its commissioning in 1964. Moreover, the Israeli parliament in recent years has held many closed meetings on the topic of exhausting the life of this reactor and planning reconstruction activities (which have not yet been implemented).

Judging by the pictures of Bavnun, he is not at all what the French knew

[Operator]

Vanunu was photographed by the production of weapons-grade plutonium from spent nuclear fuel, and not the reactor itself.

[Krasnodar]

And didn’t tell you on what floors did it? )))

[Operator]

As far as I remember newspaper and magazine articles - in detail.

[Krasnodar]

So - this is not the reactor that the French knew, but after the revelations to Vanunu, changes were naturally made. )))

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Operator

well, come on - no one has rebuilt the nuclear reactor in Dimon since its commissioning in 1964. Moreover, the Israeli parliament has held many closed meetings in recent years on the topic of exhausting the life of this reactor and planning reconstruction activities (which have not yet been implemented).

I see that you are very knowledgeable in matters of state. secrets of Israel.

[Operator]

As part of the flow of information into the Israeli press - translated into Russian, of course.

[Maki Avellevich]

"I see that you are very knowledgeable about the state secrets of Israel."

Quote: Operator

As part of the flow of information into the Israeli press - translated into Russian, of course.

[Operator]

You wanted to say - listened to "Ear of Matzo"

[Zeev Zeev]

Israel will not cease to exist. But the country that tries to attack Israel with nuclear weapons will disappear.

[VicktorVR]

I sincerely hope that in such a situation, our authorities will block the borders tightly.

[VicktorVR]

From the consequences - millions of refugees.

I kind of never wrote anywhere that we needed radiation there ...

[nikvic46]

Today. Well, you have a script. Now the globe has acquired the color khaki. Matches are enough.

[VicktorVR]

But most likely the matter will not be limited to the exchange of nuclear strikes and the entire okrug will burn - the same Turkey and the Saudis will not stand aside. Egypt and Iraq will also catch up ...

[Krasnodar]

What is Egypt to do there? )) And the Turks? To alert the air defense and wait for the denouement.

[Yrec]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Yrec

The main threat to Israel is the fall of the hegemon.

But the hegemon is still hoo. Although it sometimes gets a bream.
Suggest other options.
For example, the United States is placed in such conditions when it is more expensive to stand up for a Middle Eastern partner.

In order not to write a lot of letters, because I'm lazy, I will make a tip: Basel 3, March 29, 2019.

[Flooding]

Quote: Yrec

So as not to write a lot of letters, because I'm lazy, I’ll make a tip: Basel 3, March 29, 2019

I had in mind the military aspect.

[antivirus]

everything in the article is very strange "- hopes ..."
quantity can turn into quality ", but the quality of Israel in 50 mil. quantity cannot
What will Israel give to the Russian Federation for the landing of Iran? how much to hang in grams?
if tomorrow is war, where will the Jews run, Palestinians, Persians, all BBV?
Will the Georgians, Armenians, Azeris accept them and keep their states? Or will these statehoods dissolve?

[Yrec]

Quote: taurtaurov

Quote: Yrec

My opinion is this. The main threat to Israel is the fall of the hegemon. In the market of which Jews have unlimited access (such as Russia for Belarus, only cooler), as well as direct funding from the United States. The loss of this market (or its catastrophic drying out), military and economic support from the United States, will lead Israel to the brink of dismantling. Actually, there will be many who will lead, but Israel is first in line.

I am 50 years old, and all these years since childhood I have heard this, the USA ALREADY DECLINED, AND ISRAEL IS IN GENERAL IN DECEMBER

States exist for centuries and millennia, the duration of human life in this context is nothing. I don’t say that it will happen tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, but it will definitely happen. By the way, you can read about Basel 3, March 29, 2019.

[knn54]

A TYPICAL example, when from love (and hot, until 1979) to hatred one step.
In this case, the Shiite revolution.
Details at https://newsland.com/community/politic/content/irano-izrailskie-otnosheniia-vchera-i-segodnia/2243821

[rocket757]

It’s difficult ... on hatred of someone that has never led to anything good.
the east is a delicate matter, quite reasonable there side by side with outright savagery (according to our concepts, of course).

[nikvic46]

Victor. I would add that the sciences that we use come from the east.

[rocket757]

Nicholas
In the east, many great states, cultures were created, grew and crumbled! We take advantage of their great discoveries, this is undoubtedly ....
And then came a young, aggressive, able to survive in any conditions NORTH !!! Everything, not everything, but the ancestors of the northerners destroyed a lot! adopted a LOT and built YOUR. The same young, aggressive, but also progressive.
Different ages are humanity. Everything has its time.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: nikvic46

Victor. I would add that the sciences that we use come from the east.

Well, if you consider Greece as the east.
Arabic algebra is good, but you must keep at home meat snacks with which they had a tight meal.
Far Eastern philosophies of Lao Tse is also nice, but they are for the soul and not for those. progress

[babylon]

The influential high-ranking people of Iran are being cleared, clearing the way for their puppets who are already in power. The same thing happened in the USSR in the early eighties, Andropov was removed, Chernenko cleared the way for Gorbachev

[3danimal]

An influential high-ranking ... terrorist. Conducted (planning, financing) terrorist attacks, including against the civilian population. (You can’t hide behind epaulettes, at least call the Space Marshal).
And as a terrorist, secretly, he came to a neighboring country to consult proxy terrorists. Together with them, it was destroyed.

[Livonetc]

"Lost Israel".
What is the point?
How to strike around him and continue.
Or is it a possible strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities?
Is it possible.
Now or never.
Iran will conduct serious work on errors with the air defense forces.

[3danimal]

Now or never for Iran to receive up to 100 nuclear charges in case of escalation? What to do with relatives of the IRGC leadership, accustomed to living in great abundance? Wives flying for shopping in Europe? They are not fools or suicides. Others will be sent to slaughter with ease, but not themselves.

[Stalnov I.P.]

One question is all the countries named in the article that have nuclear weapons are adequate within the meaning of the article, and why Iran having received nuclear weapons will suddenly become inadequate, this is something proved, justified, no. North Korea received nuclear weapons and the Americans are no longer threatened with all sorts of threats, but they are kindly invited to negotiations. It will be the same with Iran, the snickering hegemon will also invite Iran to negotiations. He ruined this treaty on the Iranian nuclear issue.

[Operator]

Quote: Krasnodar

in a ground nuclear explosion of 40 or more kt, there will be no chain reaction [in the reactor]

You reassured me

[Krasnodar]

Taki nuclear pop, about which you write, will also not))
There you need to hit in another, huge, much greater power, preferably a couple of times))

[Operator]

I'm not talking about pop (thermal explosion), but about a self-sustaining fission reaction (nuclear explosion).

An explosion of 6 kg of plutonium in an implosive charge is quite sufficient to start the reaction in about a ton of stable uranium 238 (the third step of a thermonuclear charge), and not just a few tens of kilograms of plutonium and 235 nuclear uranium in a reactor.

[Krasnodar]

This will not happen due to the structural features of the object)).

[aleks.29ru]

So the general was removed by order of Israel. "Kill the best of foreigners" is an old commandment.

[Krasnodar]

Rabbi, but there are good people among the Romans too!
Kill the best of the Romans!
These are the words of Rabbi Akiva before the uprising of Shimon Bar Kokhba against the Roman occupation))

[3danimal]

Someone considered Dudaev, Basaev, Raduev the best of the Chechens. Erroneous logic.

[iouris]

So far, Trump is "sneaking", who got stuck in history at the wrong time for himself.

[Old26]

Quote: itarnmag

We have been talking about the fall of the hegemon for many years, but it still does not fall

A friend of mine (a work colleague) spoke of the following about the United States back in the 80s: TWO YEARS ROT, BUT WITH THIS STILL AND DECENTLY Smell.
Then there was a fashionable phrase that American imperialism Rotting. It has been after I heard this phrase for almost 40 years, but nothing has changed. The truth is now not talking about decay, but about the fall

Quote: Operator

The author’s absolutely erroneous opinion: the exchange of nuclear strikes between Israel and Iran is in the interests of the Russian Federation, the USA and the Gulf countries, after which these two states will cease to be nuclear, one of them will cease to exist, and hydrocarbon prices will skyrocket.

PS I always said that trump is our person

Yeah. And then America will sign for Israel, shandarahnu across Iran, we will answer, because it will not be known exactly where the missiles are specifically aimed - on the Caspian coast of Iran or Russia - three to four hundred kilometers - it is difficult to determine by the beginning of the trajectory. And the nuclear mess will begin. And you all advocate an exchange of nuclear strikes between the two countries. It would be normal to consider that such an exchange is a global catastrophe ...

[AUL]

Quote: Old26

And you all advocate an exchange of nuclear strikes between the two countries. It would be normal to consider that such an exchange is a global catastrophe ...

Yes, there is a category of couch hawks, advocating the "Stalin's Strait", "the whole world in dust" and other similar games. We haven't played enough of Zarnitsa!

[L-39NG]

Do not let them do nuclear weapons. And then in the Russian media (not all) they will grind that it was an act of aggression against a peaceful state. By the way, when the Soviets were in Afghanistan, Iran helped the souls very, very much. Newly-made friends, however.

[Jurkovs]

In vain she makes this gesture against the background of Patriot. These systems only in the last year made two major failures.

[Shahno]

Quote: SETTGF

Quote: Military Review Crouching Iran, Hiding Israel - what is happening between the two countries

More restrained and realistic politicians believe that in no case should one try to “force” the situation, since the consequences can be completely unpredictable for the entire region, and their price is unbearable

Time heals, but not always ...

Not always. But then art helps ..

[Krasnodar]

The best remake of Eminem! )))

[frizzy]

While I’m alive, I really want to see the use of nuclear weapons. I don’t care who the Iranians, Israelis or anyone else do. This will be a movie☻☻☻☻

[asv363]

Alexander, thanks for the article. I will comment on one suggestion:

On the one hand, IDF intelligence officers are confident that Iran will have the amount of enriched uranium needed to create nuclear weapons by the end of 2020.

If you know the real situation with uranium enrichment in Iran, then not everything is so good. In reality, Iran is now enriching uranium up to 5% in the 235th isotope. In the limit, what Iran had previously done was trying to reach 20%, which, as everyone knows, is the border between HEU and LEU. Gram quantities were obtained by experimental laser enrichment, but this topic was curtailed due to the complexity of such a process. By the way, a similar project in the USA also failed.
The main problem on the way to creating more advanced centrifuges is the lack of the necessary technological chain (equipment of the necessary processing accuracy, materials and alloys).

The same Americans give at least a year to get nuclear weapons, but, in reality, I think much more.

[Krasnodar]

The Israelis patented the method of laser enrichment of Uranus in the 70s. Recently patented some kind of magnetic method. But since Israel has no nuclear weapons, then in practice they do not enrich anything.

[asv363]

In the United States, from memory, GE bought SILEX technology from the Australians, which they, in turn, purchased from South Africa and finalized it. Then, when transferring rights, the Australians bargained for 10 or 20% of the profits from the enrichment of uranium with this method.

[Krasnodar]

Where does this come from South Africa - there are also different rumors, but since these are mostly secret topics, I’m not able to say anything concrete

[Old26]

Quote: asv363

If you know the real situation with uranium enrichment in Iran, then not everything is so good. In reality, Iran is now enriching uranium up to 5% in the 235th isotope. In the limit, what Iran had previously done was trying to reach 20%, which, as everyone knows, is the border between HEU and LEU. Gram quantities were obtained by experimental laser enrichment, but this topic was curtailed due to the complexity of such a process. By the way, a similar project in the USA also failed.
The main problem on the way to creating more advanced centrifuges is the lack of the necessary technological chain (equipment of the necessary processing accuracy, materials and alloys).

Not gram quantities were obtained, but kilogram ones with enrichment of up to 20% according to U235 and centrifuges. Something about 25 kg EMNIP (but this is not accurate, maybe more, you need to look for data). The main cascades were on IR-1 centrifuges and only at the Ford plant were there cascades with IR-2a and IR-4 centrifuges (a small number), more productive than IR-1. If now Iran will restore the number of centrifuges that was before the agreement, then to obtain weapons-grade uranium, they will need about 10 months and a productivity of 190 SWU (separation work units). If the centrifuges will be a new generation, types IR-000, IR-5, IR-6 and IR-7 - then faster. But from it is still necessary to produce. The number of these new centrifuges is from 8 to 10 pieces of each type. And the new IR-30s are still being tested.

The same Americans give at least a year to get nuclear weapons, but, in reality, I think much more.

Quote: Operator

Oh come on - no one has rebuilt the nuclear reactor in Dimon since its commissioning in 1964. Moreover, the Israeli parliament in recent years has held many closed meetings on the topic of exhausting the life of this reactor and planning reconstruction activities (which have not yet been implemented).

Twice they upgraded as much as my sclerosis doesn’t change me, and no one knows what the modernization was. But the power was raised very decently. From 40 MW of thermal power in 1963 to 70 in the 70s and up to 140-150 in the 80s ....

[demo]

Certain events - for example, the recent IDF attack carried out by the IDF at the T4 military airbase in Syrian Homs, suggest that they have some ground under them.
Bullshit.
Striking at T 4 airbase in addition to the destruction of 10-100 people of Iranian personnel and material resources, what did Israel achieve?
Nothing at all.
The manufacture of weapons of mass destruction, if it happens, is not on the territory of Syria.
And they will not hand over it to fraternal terrorists.
Therefore, Israel has one way - to strike at Iran.
But you cannot fly all of Syria on airplanes and you cannot return back.
And Iran’s air defense can shoot (the Ukrainian side took over and showed what would happen if ....).
So it turns out that by striking Iranian specialists in Syria, Israel, in addition to supporting the barmaley, is not achieving anything.
And this puts him in a very bad light - a country supporting terrorists.
For this it is possible and necessary to punish.
This is a political picture.