Who were the Decembrists: reflections of modern historians


In tsarist Russia they were called traitors, the Soviet government elevated them to the rank of national heroes and fiery revolutionaries. We are talking about those who in December 1825 went to the monument to Peter I in St. Petersburg and organized an uprising. It's about the Decembrists.


How are the Decembrists perceived now? What do modern historians consider them?

According to the doctor of historical sciences Oksana Kiyanskaya, the Decembrists were driven not so much, if one can say so in this situation, by love for the people, but by reasonable egoism. At the same time, disputes erupt around whether a group of nobles decided to rebel or whether there was a certain outside hand that moved the pieces on this military-political chessboard.

The program of the Zvezda television channel published material about the events of December 1825, where the author, Sergei Medvedev, wonders: could it happen that there was a person behind the Decembrists who was close to the emperor? Could his goal be the overthrow of the sovereign from the throne and bringing to this throne either himself or a politically loyal person?

In the presented film, experts are trying to answer these and other questions regarding the December uprising:

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  1. Van 16 16 January 2020 19: 50 New
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    Oh, and my attitude towards the Decembrists is complicated .. All the same, I was born, studied, lived in the Union .. And then “Star of captivating happiness”, a wonderful film, has sunk into my soul since childhood. And now you read - they write so much different things about them ... Everything is complicated.
    1. Pux-m 16 January 2020 20: 41 New
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      Quote: Van 16
      Oh, and my attitude towards the Decembrists is complicated .. All the same, I was born, studied, lived in the Union .. And then “Star of captivating happiness”, a wonderful film, has sunk into my soul since childhood. And now you read - they write so much different things about them ... Everything is complicated.

      I always felt sorry for the simple soldiers whom they (the Decembrists) put to death from cannons .. If they themselves had been built like that?
      so now liberals are substituting the people .. EhRossiya!.
      1. Shurik70 16 January 2020 21: 03 New
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        My personal opinion is not FOR PEOPLE they walked as AGAINST SELF-POWER.
        And so why did they go - the reasons for different people were different.
        Surely there were ideological ones who saw autocracy as a brake on the development of Russia.
        There were also mercantile ones who hoped to break a considerable jackpot with luck.
        When the idea did not burn out, it is clear that everyone became ideological. The word "Honor" then was not an empty phrase, and admitting that he was walking under the guns for the sake of moshna and power was not comme il faut.
        1. svp67 17 January 2020 05: 39 New
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          Quote: Shurik70
          and AGAINST SELF-POWER.

          Is not a fact. Most of all, they went to the revolutionary change of the reigning dynasty, modeled on France
      2. phair 17 January 2020 02: 36 New
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        The soldiers were trained a little. About 200 were killed. More than a thousand were laid staring at the stinging little world. The naval guards crew himself left (there is no sea, there is nothing to do, but Konstantin himself and his wife understand the Constitution, a family matter;))
  2. knn54 16 January 2020 20: 00 New
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    Decembrists and the Russian-American Company (RAC):
    https://vlad-kosarev.livejournal.com/36592.html
  3. parusnik 16 January 2020 20: 11 New
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    Who were the Decembrists? ... who, indeed, were too far from the people .... They wanted to do what the people wanted, but not in the way the people wanted it ... but in their favor ... This how in 1991 the people wanted one, but got a completely different ...
    1. Phil77 16 January 2020 20: 26 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      Who were the Decembrists?

      So who would you call them? I personally have a rather complicated attitude towards them, like that of Comrade Van16. Moreover, they simply put more than 1000 people without any actions. They simply let me down under the buckshot.
      1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 20: 55 New
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        Bastards, and no more!
        At the beginning Nikolai Pavlovich was weak, he all played in “chivalry”. It was necessary to hang up, through one, with the wording: "for embezzlement of the Russian people"!
        1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 09 New
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          So five were hanged.
          1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 21: 17 New
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            And what? Has something changed over the next quarter century? Yes, and over the next 150 years?
            1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 34 New
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              Anton! It was impossible to carry out such a massive public execution. It was 19!, Not 17 when the archers were shortened. Yes, and Nikolai, not Peter.
              1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 21: 38 New
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                Choi, the grandson thereof did not hesitate to spread rot insurgents. Or so the violent death of the father influenced?
              2. mister-red 16 January 2020 22: 59 New
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                Five Decembrists is a mass execution?
                Around this time (1810–1826), 2 people were sentenced to death on the territory of London and the county of Middlesex related to it, i.e. 755 a year. This is only London.
                From 1826 to 1830, an average of 111 death sentences were imposed in France per year
                In Russia, over the 25 years of the reign of Alexander I, only 24 people were executed
                1. Air force 17 January 2020 06: 42 New
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                  So is enlightened Europe, not a couple of "barbaric" Russia wink But seriously, I have a negative attitude towards the Decembrists, what motivated them, or who we don’t know for sure, maybe some papers are in the archives that they did not publish because the truth is not needed, because the winners write the story. And so they went for the abolition of serfdom, but without the provision of land, and what the peasants would do in this case. Then who of the Decembrists personally dismissed their peasants? Maybe it was a typical populist game, for all the good against all the bad, but as they came to power, they would tighten the screws and the people would howl. PS As one person said, I don’t remember who: “History is the most raped science” so we often don’t find out the truth, today they say that about the Decembrists, tomorrow it’s different.
                  1. mister-red 20 January 2020 00: 04 New
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                    At school, of course, we instilled love and compassion for the Decembrists. But after the collapse of the USSR, I somehow somehow didn’t quite understand such love. After all, they were not going to make a socialist revolution. Faster than the bourgeois, although in fact it’s generally not clear which one. If they succeeded, then all the propaganda of the USSR would expose them as enslavers of the people) It seems to me that there was just love for the opponents of the tsarist regime, but exclusively for those who were defeated. I somehow do not remember my love for Kerensky, but he led Russia after the overthrow of the tsar.
                    I am also very reserved towards the Decembrists, especially after I read that someone from the executed five, I don’t remember exactly who, proposed to increase the number of censors by almost several orders of magnitude. It is very similar to the current liberals who understand freedom of speech only as the freedom of personal freedom to say anything and ready to send to the gallows all those who disagree
                2. Phil77 17 January 2020 13: 39 New
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                  Quote: mister-red
                  Five Decembrists is a mass execution?

                  Good. To paraphrase a group execution. And the fact that in Russia the number of death sentences is an order of magnitude lower than in * enlightened * Europe I know. hi
          2. Karen 16 January 2020 21: 21 New
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            But about those who were not hanged, but sent to Siberia, we can say that they lived well there ... Koresh told during the Soviet era ... He was sent to some wilderness in the depths of Siberian ores ... By helicopter ... I lived this time in a hut at some granny ... I began to help her make dinner, meat, barbecue that I bought from my neighbors ... And my grandmother tells him ... on the roof that you will find something interesting from the Decembrists - take it to yourself ... Well, the sidekick chose some two paintings ... But at the airport the security officers took him away without words ... :)
            1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2020 13: 39 New
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              Here it’s not just about the Chekists - they also knew about painting, just like I did in the Japanese medieval ballet! ... Yes, I flew around the whole Union of that time - the Chekists didn’t make noise, but the cops could, and that’s only because the person aroused suspicion, then could not annoy or ... the picture was erotic-anti-Soviet orientation. Cops in the eyes saw a man and could foresee the consequences. Everything is very simple.
              1. Karen 17 January 2020 18: 16 New
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                The man had work under the control of the Chekists ... And those paintings were of the 19th century ...
        2. Korsar4 16 January 2020 21: 17 New
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          The only interesting thing is how much they knew what they were doing? But this should be disassembled by personalities.
          1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 23 New
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            It's hard to disagree! * What? What was in this head ??? *.
          2. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2020 13: 41 New
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            I think that who knew, and whom they used blindly. Here really it is necessary to sort out the putschists by personalities!
        3. Anatoly Malyuta 17 January 2020 11: 10 New
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          Why so drown for "nemchuru"?
        4. Sirocco 21 January 2020 08: 41 New
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          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Bastards, and no more!

          Notice the same thing is happening today. With small amendments in the form of youth from educational institutions. Also, power flirts with Navalny and co. And the tsar did the right thing and tough, did not chew snot like in Ukraine Yanukovych.
      2. parusnik 16 January 2020 21: 29 New
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        Also Decembrists ... They put an end to the era of palace coups ... which began on January 25, 1725 and ended on December 14, 1825
        1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 38 New
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          No, well, that the Decembrists is understandable. I mean: heroes, criminals, people who have their own commercial interest? So who are they?
          1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 21: 49 New
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            Idealists, God forgive me!
          2. freddyk 17 January 2020 00: 27 New
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            Quote: Phil77
            No, well, that the Decembrists is understandable. I mean: heroes, criminals, people who have their own commercial interest? So who are they?

            Read Pushkin, he embodied the ideas of the Decembrists in poetry. He was friends with many. “Tell me who your friend is ...” So it seems. The century of romantics was in the yard, and the word “honor” was not an empty phrase.
            1. Phil77 17 January 2020 13: 36 New
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              You wrote correctly, he was friends! Therefore, it is easy to guess that I felt a kind of sympathy for their ideas. What is evident in his poems. hi
          3. parusnik 17 January 2020 07: 04 New
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            Yes, neither who they are for me, nor heroes, not criminals ... since 1725, palace coups have been of commercial interest .... When they write, they say that the Decembrists went to the square against tyranny ... I always have a question, why ... Che it was impossible to enter the palace, as the predecessors did .. for 100 years? And snot tired ... ahhh ... wanted to kill the sovereign ... didn’t they kill a lot? Ivan 6, Peter 3, Paul 1 ... why don’t weep at them ... don't we regularly remember? Yes, because they weren’t killed by the "mob" .. but by the people of "blue blood", which is normal ...
          4. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2020 13: 42 New
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            Criminals. The putschists. In any country in the world at all times they rely on VMN. And the point.
            1. Phil77 17 January 2020 13: 45 New
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              I put you * plus *. Briefly Yomko. On business. Directly. hi And the point.
      3. Okolotochny 18 January 2020 12: 04 New
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        All right. After all, the soldier of subordinates was not taken out of the barracks with their ideas, but for “Emperor Konstantin Pavlovich”, by deception.
    2. Plantagenet 16 January 2020 22: 06 New
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      "" The Union of Welfare? They think that my Tishka needs a Turkish or English constitution! He needs vodka, that’s right, a woman needs it too, - as I do, however, - and then who knows? It is not for nothing that Kapnist claims that liberal Russian noblemen are preparing for their misfortune liberal, clean revolutions, for any clean revolution will inevitably be followed by a popular revolt and a new Time of Troubles. Maybe Kapnist is right ... "

      Mark Aleksandrovich Aldanov “HOLY ELENA, LITTLE ISLAND”
  4. 7,62h54 16 January 2020 20: 11 New
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    In the light of the Dear Leader’s desire to take the throne for life, any revolutionary person will be exposed in a negative light. Be it a nobleman, a Decembrist or a factory worker. To distort history, there is always a professor in stock who is sprinkled with mothballs, who is digging up the "truth" in the archives.
    1. kjhg 16 January 2020 20: 49 New
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      Well written.
      Of course, for the current government, the Decembrists are traitors. Traitors because they dared to come up with arms in their hands against the tsarist regime. But in the morning they did not have time before the inauguration of the new king.
      In general, you need to remember what time it was? It was the heyday and golden age of our literature and culture. No wonder many of the Decembrists were writers and poets.
      If we move away from the course of that fateful day and look at the programs of the Decembrists, we can say with confidence that they wanted the good of Russia. Both the Northern and Southern ones had plans to free the peasants, who by then had been liberated throughout Europe. They proposed the creation of the Parliamentary Republic and the Constitutional Monarchy. In any case, their programs were a giant step forward. How realistic were they?
      1. 7,62h54 16 January 2020 20: 56 New
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        For the autocrat and those at the trough, the programs were not realistic, because it is always difficult for a bloodsucker to break away from his victim. But here the people would accept with joy.
        1. Pissarro 17 January 2020 00: 45 New
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          Have you decided for the people? The whole of the 19th century handed over troublemakers to the authorities and prayed for the king the priest. When the next troublemakers-liberals nevertheless kicked the tsar-priest, the people again came to the idea of ​​the Tsar-Stalin. And again, our people want Tsar Putin. Well, people do not believe in boyars-benefactors. Especially those who brought him under the buckshot in their own selfish interests and made him shout a Constitution like this is the wife of Prince Constantine
        2. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2020 13: 48 New
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          But only for the then people of Russia do not need to sign - they did not know the people, and the people did not understand them. And in case of victory, they again returned to the constitutional monarchy, or dictatorship (alas, not yet the proletariat ...) - their program was muddy. Well, by February 1917, the idea of ​​the monarchy was so disgusting to everyone that no one had come out to defend it! This is what happens in history. However, just like you and I did not go out in August 1991 to shoot a bunch of putschists, and at the same time Yeltsnman! ... Now here we bite our elbows ...
      2. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 07 New
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        And, what is interesting in the Russian Empire itself, the liberation of the peasants in Estonia, Courland, Livonia occurred in 1816,17,19.
        1. kjhg 16 January 2020 21: 12 New
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          Yes, this is an amazing situation. They were in a more privileged position in Soviet times.
      3. Pissarro 17 January 2020 00: 36 New
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        Not a single Decembrist freed his peasants before rebellion.
        1. Kunica 20 January 2020 20: 50 New
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          In order not to "burn" ahead of time))
      4. carstorm 11 17 January 2020 01: 30 New
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        the trouble is that traitors, whatever motives they still have, are traitors and remain. treason or betrayal have no excuses. what they wanted was right and necessary, but it is the path that they went that crosses out all this .. Vlasov also thinks that he is doing the right thing and for the good. but who is he? the traitor and his relatives will wear this stain for many years.
      5. Magv 21 January 2020 05: 15 New
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        Their goal was not to free the peasants, but to drive the people of the country from the land, which for centuries had fed and driven into factory huts to the delight of foreign industrial capital climbing into the country, which really needed free labor in the rich Russian expanses. Therefore, leave your liberal songs about the great steps forward for the benefit of mankind.
    2. Kunica 16 January 2020 21: 45 New
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      I agree. Now is the time that the Decembrists are not "on the list." They rocked the boat, brought people to the Maidan, they wanted to "like in Ukraine." We need a historian who will explain to us that they acted on the teachings and the money of European Russophobes. Who will take it? negative
      1. 7,62h54 16 January 2020 21: 53 New
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        The best historian is Our Most Best. He has long been talking about how everything is bad there, and how everything is good here. And how the local people invest in the overthrow of the local people. So the cup for the best historian remains inside the perimeter of the Kremlin.
      2. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 59 New
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        Ha! But what about the widely-advertised super-movie of super-first channel of super-producer Ernst * Salvation Union * ???? Irony, asly what. hi
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        For a long time, everything is written who is what and why.
  5. Phil77 16 January 2020 20: 13 New
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    Excuse me, but this program was released on May 14, 2018.
  6. lucul 16 January 2020 20: 26 New
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    In tsarist Russia they were called traitors, the Soviet government elevated them to the rank of national heroes and fiery revolutionaries.

    Here is the answer for you — for the Russians they were traitors, and for the God-chosen — fiery revolutionaries .......
    1. Phil77 16 January 2020 20: 36 New
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      And to everything else Herzen was also woken up !!! laughing
      1. Korsar4 16 January 2020 21: 20 New
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        As reported in the 90s press:

        "Which bastard woke Lenin?
        Who bothered the baby was sleeping? "
        1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 21 New
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          Probably Anton is right about them !!! laughing
        2. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 46 New
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          Schuher! A dashing and terrible minus signer has appeared! Oh grief !! laughing
          1. Korsar4 16 January 2020 21: 49 New
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            Now I looked. It turns out that the “Ballad of historical lack of sleep” by Naum Korzhavin. Talented enough.

            "But the Decembrists woke Herzen.
            He did not sleep enough. From here everything went. "
            1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 54 New
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              *Tired toys are sleeping.
              Books are sleeping.
              Blankets and pillows
              They are waiting for the guys. * laughing
              1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 19 New
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                "Make bonfires
                Blue nights! "(C)
        3. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 21: 55 New
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          Sergey, the first time I see the "cons" in your address!
          "So you read the necessary books in your childhood!" (WITH)
          1. Korsar4 16 January 2020 22: 02 New
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            This is a game.
            Just all have their own sacred cows.

            And what is unconditional? Except that:

            "I will do well.
            And I will not be bad "(c).
            1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 12 New
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              Well, yes, the game ... "We are all just a set of electromagnetic pulses."
              1. Korsar4 16 January 2020 22: 18 New
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                "What do they see? - Coats
                On the youthful figure "(c).
                1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 26 New
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                  "Nervous, thin, euro-eyed passerby." (WITH)
                  1. Korsar4 16 January 2020 22: 33 New
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                    "He is subtle by the first subtlety of branches" (c).
                    1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 39 New
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                      "Actress Spring after a long illness,
                      On stage again
                      Shy movement, fluttering on the stage,
                      Thawed Roofs "(C)
                      1. Korsar4 17 January 2020 06: 25 New
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                        "Spring Girl with Long Legs
                        He sleeps himself with a restful sleep "(c).
                      2. 3x3zsave 17 January 2020 06: 46 New
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                        "I, beyond the purple distance,
                        On the far forest side
                        Sleeping beloved in a small bedroom
                        And in a dream he speaks of me "(C)
                      3. Korsar4 17 January 2020 07: 05 New
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                        "I will drive the bike for a long time.
                        In the wilderness meadows I will stop him "(c).
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                        "And I throw pebbles from a steep bank,
                        The distant strait of Laperouse "(C)
                      5. Korsar4 17 January 2020 07: 15 New
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                        “At least to the ends of the earth.
                        Though over the edge ”(c).
                      6. 3x3zsave 17 January 2020 07: 18 New
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                        "Just stand a little longer on the edge!" (WITH)
                      7. Korsar4 17 January 2020 07: 32 New
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                        “Galloped - I look - something paradise is not in front of my eyes” (c).
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                        "It’s evident he sang about you, I’m inept
                        Black eyes, white tablecloth "(C)
                      9. Korsar4 17 January 2020 07: 54 New
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                        “The long way is creeping.
                        And it rests right on the horizon ”(c).
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                        "And under the wing of an airplane sings about something,
                        Green Sea taiga "(C)
  • 3x3zsave 17 January 2020 07: 16 New
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    "I will do well.
    And I will not be bad "(c).

    “Two girls, angry and kind, sat on the roof and threw stones at passers-by. The evil hit 3 times, and the good - 5 times. Because good always triumphs over evil!”
  • Pavel57 17 January 2020 01: 53 New
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    Herzen in the glorious city of London woke up.
  • Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2020 13: 50 New
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    Well, he didn’t have to wake him up - let him sleep on himself further!
  • Ivan7527 16 January 2020 20: 27 New
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    It seems to me alone, the right photo on the screen saver, WHO SOMETHING reminds?
    1. Phil77 16 January 2020 20: 33 New
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      Do you mean IT? Well, some similarities can be found. He has doubles !!! Even in the past! laughing
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      I join +1 laughing
      1. figwam 16 January 2020 20: 59 New
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        He is eternal ...
        1. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 12 New
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          And now, and forever and forever ...
        2. Phil77 16 January 2020 21: 29 New
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          It seems that jokes on the topic are not welcome. It does not matter! laughing
  • 7,62h54 16 January 2020 20: 32 New
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    Publications by O. I. Kiyanskaya on the movement of the Decembrists are criticized by a group of researchers on this topic. For example, in the publication “Decembrists: Actual directions of research. Collection of articles and materials ”(St. Petersburg, 2014), two critical articles were published on her book about Ryleyev (A. B. Sheshin“ Did KF Ryleyev carry out the instructions of Prince A. N. Golitsyn and did he intend to take the emperor’s name to Fort Ross in California? (Regarding the book “Ruler of affairs” by A. G. Gotovtseva and O. I. Kiyanskaya) and M. A. Pastukhov. “A New Experience in the Biography of the Decembrist K. F. Ryleyev”).

    A number of her findings on financial fraud carried out by the leaders of the Southern Society are examined and refuted in detail in the article by historian Ek. Yu. Lebedeva “Oksana Ivanovna Kiyanskaya and the Party Gold” [3], the essence of its methodology and a number of negligence in dealing with sources are disclosed in an article by historians N. Sokolova and Ek. Yu. Lebedeva “Oksana Ivanovna Kiyanskaya as a historiographic problem” [4].
  • Sergey Averchenkov 16 January 2020 21: 00 New
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    Who were the Decembrists? I am still inclined towards the Soviet attitude towards them. Although maybe I'm wrong, but I grew up in the USSR.
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      I also grew up in the USSR, and carefully studied literature and history according to the gentlemen of the Decembrists and realized that they were very engaged by those who wanted to destroy the Russian state. My teacher of Russian language and literature, Yevgeny Sergeyevich, who had two degrees, journalism and philology, helped me in understanding this. He was not allowed to defend even a Ph.D. thesis, on the Decembrists, which he gave me to read, only in the eightieth year, after six years , after graduation, when I was already, a man who was formed in all respects, who knew what power was, a duty to the Motherland and his own conscience ..
      1. Sergey Averchenkov 17 January 2020 01: 33 New
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        I sympathize with you, well, the fact that they grew up in the USSR is impossible to study literature. You can either read or not. Everyone had a Russian teacher - do not expose this as a merit. Two formations ... I have three and only one completed, and now what? Candidate ... Do you want me to sprinkle your fucking candidate on my knee? Do you know how many diplomas I wrote for the mumps? Not less than a hundred.
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  • Dart2027 16 January 2020 21: 18 New
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    All you need to know about Decembrists is the answer to a simple question:
    "How many of their serfs did they release?"
    1. Essex62 16 January 2020 21: 45 New
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      Exactly. The ordinary guard palace coup, which happened after the death of Peter the Great, in the Republic of Ingushetia, is not measured. Ilyich is the smartest and most far-sighted human being, more and more convinced. He adapted everyone to the matter, even such a frank counter-gold-flyer. Every bast on a line.
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  • Yuri Mikhailovsky 16 January 2020 21: 56 New
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    "The essential goes into the distance,
    and the prescription is closer
    becomes apparent. "
    Goethe "Faust"
  • 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 03 New
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    I’m thinking everything, but where are the thoughts of modern historians?
    1. Essex62 16 January 2020 22: 35 New
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      So here we are reasoning. We live in modern times, we draw Old from big handfuls, from a large number of sources than not historians. Who are historians, what kind of science is history? Solid assumptions. For example, you won’t take an interview with Pestel, and documents can be fabricated by the officers of the Gendarme Corps.
      1. Ross xnumx 17 January 2020 04: 31 New
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        Quote: Essex62
        For example, you won’t take an interview with Pestel, and documents can be fabricated by the officers of the Gendarme Corps.

        I agree with you. One circumstance can shed light on this event - the goals of the uprising:
        The aim was to abolish autocracy and abolish serfdom.

        Judging by the events of that time, the “tops” did not want and were not eager to live differently, and the “lower classes” still had little thought and absolutely no idea of ​​methods for changing their position.
        You must admit that Russian “serfdom” was legalized and veiled slavery, and the monarchy, when power was transferred from one person to another through palace intrigues and family affiliations, despite the monarch’s mental abilities and education, was a very unpleasant reality.
        The interpretation of historical events from the point of view of rejection of any changes, any upheavals is doubtful ...
        By the way, a shot at Miloradovich could be quite “deserving”. In the officer community of that time, a public insult in words was a mortal insult, and the possible rejection of the duel of a “war hero” with “some cattle, an apostate” found just such a way out.
        You are absolutely right that those who make posthumous reports and reports make history.
        Do we not know about the “hero” of recent history - EBN? And the very last public “demonstration performance” with a link of “objectionable and unjustified confidence” to new seats can serve as a vivid example of how professional devotees of mediocrity become “guardians of the fatherland”.
        I do not think that Aleksadr Sergeyevich, who once wrote:

        In the depths of Siberian ores
        Keep your patience,
        Do not lose your sorrowful work
        And we think of a great aspiration.

        Unfortunately, a faithful sister,
        Hope in a gloomy dungeon
        It will awake cheerfulness and merriment,
        The desired time will come:

        Love and friendship is up to you
        They will reach through the gloomy gates,
        As in your convict burrows
        My free voice comes.

        The chains of the heavy will fall,
        Dungeons will collapse - and freedom
        You will be cheerfully at the entrance,
        And the brothers will give you the sword.


        He covered someone’s selfish, base instincts ...
        hi
        1. Dart2027 17 January 2020 05: 53 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          By the way, a shot at Miloradovich could be quite “deserving”. In the officer community of that time, a public insult in words was a mortal insult, and the possible rejection of the duel of a “war hero” with “some cattle, an apostate” found just such a way out.

          I hadn’t come across anything about the “possible refusal,” but the fact that the Decembrists were afraid that the general popular among the soldiers would convince them to leave even I remember from Soviet history. Not to mention that shooting during negotiations has always been considered lawlessness.
          1. Ross xnumx 17 January 2020 09: 19 New
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            Quote: Dart2027
            Not to mention that shooting during negotiations has always been considered lawlessness.

            Negotiations while riding a horse are not conducted ... yes
            1. Dart2027 17 January 2020 18: 17 New
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              Quote: ROSS 42
              Negotiations while riding a horse

              And where is it spelled out? Is it unpleasant to read that the Decembrists were ordinary killers?
        2. Essex62 17 January 2020 16: 41 New
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          Pushkin is romanticism. Understood the realities of politics, IMHO, poorly. A rake, a womanizer and a briter. Among the Decembrists there are many of his friends and also a representative of his class, as you rightly noted, slave owners. But by the standards of that time, trying to simply remove the autocrat, and to abolish slavery in the Empire, progress is not comic. But it really is a matter of shame.
        3. Essex62 17 January 2020 16: 41 New
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          Pushkin is romanticism. Understood the realities of politics, IMHO, poorly. A rake, a womanizer and a briter. Among the Decembrists there are many of his friends and also a representative of his class, as you rightly noted, slave owners. But by the standards of that time, trying to simply remove the autocrat, and to abolish slavery in the Empire, progress is not comic. But it really is a matter of shame.
  • GenNick 16 January 2020 22: 31 New
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    Quote: 3x3zsave
    I’m thinking everything, but where are the thoughts of modern historians?

    You mean, modern historians after 1985 year of birth?
    1. 3x3zsave 16 January 2020 22: 51 New
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      I mean, all the comments are an idle philistine idiot about the release of the next movie. Including mine.
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  • Finn 16 January 2020 23: 35 New
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    The serfs were forgotten only to ask whether they want to go along the road without land and the opportunity to earn money ... in principle, nothing has changed, many of us are serfs and go from the master to the other master.
    1. Essex62 18 January 2020 09: 36 New
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      In principle, this is the current state of things, in the Union I put the "master" with the device. We didn’t have a bar, from the word at all. In the east there, yes, there were bais. Well, that’s the delicate matter of Turkestan.
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      In principle, this is the current state of things, in the Union I put the "master" with the device. We didn’t have a bar, from the word at all. In the east there, yes, there were bais. Well, that’s the delicate matter of Turkestan.
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  • Sergey Averchenkov 17 January 2020 01: 42 New
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    I liked this question - the Decembrists, and who are they? The question is controversial and very controversial. But he is and there is no getting away from it. Thanks to the author.
  • rocket757 17 January 2020 05: 26 New
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    A beautiful, romantic story from this event was made then in the USSR. However, then a lot of things, with a frank, gangster darling, seemed like a people !!! There was an attempt to free the "oppressed", but it is not so unambiguous as they presented us.
  • Graz 17 January 2020 05: 59 New
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    Well, actually it was possible to get by with a minimum of casualties from the tsar’s troops, if you know, introduce a complete cordon of the rebels and change soldiers every few hours, and how long will the rebel troops stand on the street? less than a day
  • Essex62 17 January 2020 16: 50 New
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    Pushkin is romanticism. Understood the realities of politics, IMHO, poorly. A rake, a womanizer and a briter. Among the Decembrists there are many of his friends and also a representative of his class, as you rightly noted, slave owners. But by the standards of that time, trying to simply remove the autocrat, and to abolish slavery in the Empire, progress is not comic. But is it really so.
    1. Essex62 20 January 2020 10: 14 New
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      This happens on its own, repetitions and quotes are the same. Do not throw stools, iPad makes a fool. And clean does not come out.
  • Umsan Umsanov 18 January 2020 11: 00 New
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    time was such
    there were many secret societies.

    would the FSB not have this,