Zelensky signed the law on the resumption of conscription from the age of 18 and began to lose rating

January 16 2020

The Ukrainian president today signed a law that added a percentage of his opponents and led to a downgrade. This is a law, on the basis of which the draft for military service will now be carried out from the age of 18.

The upper bar of draft age, based on this law, has not changed. She is 27 years old. At the same time, the draft service in the Ukrainian army is 1,5 years for the main number of draftees and a year for people with a diploma of higher education.

Thus, the long-standing legislative norm, which prescribed that young people be enlisted for military service from the age of 20, is canceled. This fact has criticized the decision of President Vladimir Zelensky. He is reminded that he himself did not serve in the army. Experts estimated Zelensky’s rating decline as president due to the signing of the unpopular law at about 10 percent.

The legislation of Ukraine prescribes conscripts not to use in the zone of military operations and technological disasters.

Against this background, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine once again announced that the troops "are on the path of meeting NATO standards." Deputy Minister of Defense Alina Frolova said that Kiev is interested in obtaining NATO partner status “with expanded powers”. According to Frolova, this will allow the Ukrainian army to achieve "a higher level of compatibility with the armies of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance."

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nm76

nm76 16 January 2020 15: 06 New

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One president has shifted the draft term to 20 years ...
Another president returned back from the age of 18 ...
Question to the author: - And then what matters to us?
Does this somehow change the retirement age in the Russian Federation or limit the ability to collect dead wood without notifying the authorities?
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  Labrador 16 January 2020 15: 36 New
  
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  Although not the author, I will answer: unlike the deadwood tree, this topic is directly related to the subject of the resource.
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    nm76 16 January 2020 15: 48 New
    
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    Valyozhnik is used to create fortifications, anti-personnel barriers, and to arrange dugouts and firing points. The deadwood tree serves to camouflage manpower and equipment, heat personnel and prepare food. With the help of felling, you can put smoke curtains, smoke the enemy from shelters. The fallen tree in the capable hands of a fighter can serve as a stabbing, chopping and throwing weapon.
    1. krot
      
      krot 16 January 2020 18: 01 New
      
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      The legislation of Ukraine prescribes conscripts not to use in the zone of military operations and technological disasters
      
      Why then the army, if not for military operations and civilian assistance?
      1. Shurik70
        
        Shurik70 16 January 2020 18: 18 New
        
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        Quote: nm76
        The deadwood is used for ...
        
        It’s good when a person knows how to think.
        I believe that you can independently figure out how the period of military age has to do with the Military Review.
        
        Abbot
        
        Abbot 16 January 2020 20: 15 New
        
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        The Ukrainian president today signed a law that added a percentage of his opponents and led to a downgrade. This is a law, on the basis of which the draft for military service will now be carried out from the age of 18.
        
        If the sources do not lie (but they do not lie!), Then Zelya did not sign the law, but the decree on the appeal for 2020 (N 13/2020 of 16.01.2020/2015/2018). Last year (as in 22-2019), the appeal was carried out on the basis of the Decree of Gunpowder (N 30.01.2019/20 dated 27/18/2013), which provided for the age from 2014 to XNUMX years. From the age of XNUMX, they shaved to Porokha and Yanukovych in XNUMX, and Turchinov in XNUMX.
        
        According to Art. 15 of the Law "On Military Duty and Military Service," citizens aged 18 to 27 years are eligible for military service. In general, neither Zely’s decree nor Gunpowder’s decrees are against the law. But it is obvious that the decrees of Gunpowder in terms of draft age were milder. Zelia in 2020 returned to the old-mode pre-revolution practice. And, presumably, not from a good life.
        
        And certainly, the discussed decree of Zeli has nothing to do with the statements of this Alina Frolova, nor with NATO standards.
      2. Lipchanin
        
        Lipchanin 17 January 2020 05: 26 New
        
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        Quote: krot
        Why then the army, if not for military operations and civilian assistance?
        
        For climbing into nature. They are not interested in another
        [Quote] Kiev is interested in obtaining NATO partner status "With extended authority." According to Frolova, this will allow the Ukrainian army to achieve "a higher level of compatibility with the armies of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance." [/ Quote]
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      Russobel 16 January 2020 18: 02 New
      
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      Ah, what a fast, and in skillful hands a member of the balalaika party ...
    3. Lipchanin
      
      Lipchanin 17 January 2020 05: 25 New
      
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      Quote: nm76
      The fallen tree in the capable hands of a fighter can serve as a stabbing, chopping and throwing weapon.
      
      And in the hands of a sadist .....
      And sexual maniacs will come up with this ...
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  Thrall 16 January 2020 15: 42 New
  
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  Quote: nm76
  Does this somehow change the retirement age in the Russian Federation or limit the ability to collect dead wood without notifying the authorities?
  
  One colonel wrote a letter to Zhukov asking if it is possible to add additional insignia to the colonel’s summer uniform, since in winter everything is all right - he can be immediately identified by his cap; but the problem with summer forms is that they are all alike. In a letter, Zhukov personally wrote a resolution: "I authorize the colonel to go in a papakha such and such a summer. Zhukov"
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  Lekz 16 January 2020 17: 07 New
  
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  Let me take an interest. Logging does not suit, do you want to cut the forest? Yes, and about a tongue twister. How do you want to live in Germany? I want to! Then you will have to work as in Germany, and not go to work as in the USSR. I repeat: work, not go to work.
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    nm76 16 January 2020 17: 38 New
    
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    Unlike you, I regularly go to work, pay taxes and create jobs, I have several small enterprises ...
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      
      Dmitry Donskoy 16 January 2020 18: 03 New
      
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      Yes, I think his rating began to fall a long time ago, and not after the draft age of 18 years. The euphoria of the Ukrainians passed after the failure of Poroshenko, and Zee, himself as a president has not yet shown.
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      I have several small productions ...
      
      And are you planning to retire?
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  Quote: nm76
  Does this somehow change the retirement age in the Russian Federation or limit the ability to collect dead wood without notifying the authorities?
  
  And the translation of the arrows was canceled. Disgrace
  Remember nothing yet?
Gardamir

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Finally. And then the whole message, yes Mishustin. And they forgot about Ukraine. Well, not discuss the changes in the Russian Constitution.
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  nm76 16 January 2020 15: 13 New
  
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  Now, if our new government traditionally does not work out, then this is one of the possible potential reasons to justify ...)))
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    Keyser soze 16 January 2020 21: 21 New
    
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    Now, if our new government traditionally doesn’t work out
    
    Dear ... you are being denied, because here is an article about Thomas, and you are about Yerema ....
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      Lipchanin 17 January 2020 05: 34 New
      
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      here is an article about Thomas, and you are about Yerema ....
      
      A hungry kuma has one thing in mind
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  Quote: Gardamir
  Well, not discuss the changes in the Russian Constitution.
  
  What?
  You already write an article, we will discuss
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This is a law, on the basis of which the draft for military service will now be carried out from the age of 18.
Deputy Defense Minister Alina Frolova spoke out that Kiev is interested in obtaining the status of NATO partner “with extended powers”

That is, the young 18-year-old Ukrainian boys legally become partners with "expanded powers" for tolerant NATO members?
However turn
KAVBER

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The younger, the more manageable, if you start enrolling from a kindergarten, in general, war fires are obtained at the exit, frostbitten throughout the forelock.
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  Sergey Valov 16 January 2020 15: 26 New
  
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  Well, not a kindergarten, but at 14 - 15 years old it is.
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    Well, not a kindergarten, but at 14 - 15 years old it is.
    
    There, they began to intensely rinse the brains just starting from the kindergarten. It would be funny if it were not so sad.
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      In addition to brains, physical fitness is also important. Look at the photos of the Khmer Rouge.
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      There, they began to intensely rinse the brains just starting from the kindergarten.
      
      There they are rinsed 25 hours a day for everyone.
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    Correctly! YunArmy as an example!
Altona

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What is the difference at what age the machine will trust you? It's like getting married, the less you think, the easier it is to endure. It is completely incomprehensible to me that 20 years is better than 18.
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  They have been selling alcohol since the age of 21 ...
  If you call from the age of 20, then under the Demebel, he will already thump.
  But if you send to the army from 18, then you will have to serve on a sober))
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    But if you send to the army from 18, then you will have to serve on a sober))
    
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    I was called at 18 years old, and today, until the age of 21, there are still children.
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      I was called at 18
      
      and me
      Just like in a courtyard song: "he took the guy right from the graduation patrol to the draft board"
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  Young are easier to manipulate than adults.
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    Young are easier to manipulate than adults.
    
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    If at the age of 18 there are no brains, then by 20 they will not greatly increase. And from an earlier age it is easier to learn, especially the modern military specialties are rather high-tech.
    1. orionvitt
      
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      If at the age of 18 there are no brains, then by 20 they will not greatly increase
      
      Brains begin to grow only in their thirties. However, if they are not, then this is forever.
      modern military specialties are quite high-tech
      Confused the Ukrainian army with some other? Ukrainian weapons, all 35-40 years old. It can hardly be called modern.
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        Confused the Ukrainian army with some other? Ukrainian weapons, all 35-40 years old. It can hardly be called modern.
        
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        And then the Ukrainian army, if the question was originally asked regardless of any army? Simply, if you need to serve, it is better to serve early and not delay this business. But you still need to study a military specialty. Communication equipment is still more or less modern, and even if not modern, it still needs to be studied. Or do you think that before 2000 there was no civilization?
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      Sergey Valov 16 January 2020 16: 09 New
      
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      The point is not only in the brain, but also in the psyche and psychology. Who is easier - to make a 30-year-old normal man or an 18-year-old boy shoot at unarmed citizens? And go for machine guns?
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        Quote: Sergey Valov
        The point is not only in the brain, but also in the psyche and psychology. Who is easier - to make a 30-year-old normal man or an 18-year-old boy shoot at unarmed citizens? And go for machine guns?
        
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        It is a call either from the 18-year-old or from the 20-year-old line. Why all these passages about 30-year-old men? I am 50 years old, for example, I have withdrawn from military records, I have medical indicators like those of a 35-year-old. This is not a matter of biology, but why is the 2-year difference so critical that directly affects ratings and other garbage? What is so terrible about this? Horror in what? That is, at the age of 18 you will run on machine guns, but not at 20? If you are not a weak mind, then you can’t run at a machine gun at 18, without first processing the adversary with a mortar or something else significant.
        
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        By the age of twenty, people manage to get at least some kind of profession, sometimes manage to live on their own, a person begins to grow up, gain life experience. Yesterday’s schoolchild is devoid of all this The rank and file, first of all, requires unconditional obedience, the army, of course, can handle almost any draftee, but with an 18-year-old it is easier to do.
        
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        I think that the point here is a huge shortage of people who want to serve, by the age of 20, everyone is running away somewhere and not to the army. And so many, and now they have completed the period of study in secondary school for 12 years, they are formally subject to draft after school, did not manage to enter, please be kind to the Ukrainian army, it will not work. At the moment, I personally think how to brush off my eight-year-old son from the Ukrainian army.
        
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        “For 20 years, everyone has run away wherever the army has gone anywhere” - you can only run away abroad, all other options are controlled by the state. Is Ukrainian youth of draft age emigrating so massively?
        
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        Altona 16 January 2020 17: 28 New
        
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        I think that the point here is a huge shortage of people who want to serve, by the age of 20, everyone is running away somewhere and not to the army.
        
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        Well, this already makes the situation more clear. That is, to the “20 thirteenth place, the look of the Ukrainian forces is shy away”.
        
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        For example, in ancient Rome, one could enter military service from the age of 16. And partially became capable and the Roman got the right to marry at 14. Why? So that before military service, where everything can happen, he managed to plan one or two children.
        This is an example of the difference between 18 and 20 years. Just two years, and what a precipice
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      If at the age of 18 there are no brains, then by 20 they will not greatly increase.
      
      And if there is, but a little lack of life experience, you know in 20 years it will be more difficult to manipulate.
      And if he begins to work from school, he will feel the taste of money, career prospects, and if something good happens, then a civil marriage, for example, the thought of the future, children,
      And here on the parade ground, automatic and rubbish from the political leader (about the ATO, etc.). even when you realize that they will not finish what is supposed to be, but conditions, not as promised - questions, questions, questions ....
      And this is not tolerated in the army !!!
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    Young is easier to manipulate
    
    And even easier for the elderly. They are like children, they believe everything
knn54

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The appeal from the age of 18 was not canceled, it was made (in 2015) at will.
It seems that TOTAL mobilization is coming.
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  It seems that TOTAL mobilization is coming.
  
  IMHO, the idea of lowering the draft threshold does not belong to the amoeba Zelensky, but to the gray Cardinal Avakov, who is consistently setting up dispositions for a military coup in \ on Ruin. So far, he stands not shining behind the hetman, but at the right moment he will present an ultimatum. To do this, he needs a professional army in the east, Bandera detachments to start the "buoy" with the shedding of the "red one" and an obedient army of young unfired to clean up opponents and dissent. The fact that there will be no "classical Maidan", but a military coup is possible, writes Vyshinsky:
  
  But then again, this is my personal opinion.
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  It seems that TOTAL mobilization is coming.
  
  There was not enough money for a contract army by NATO standards.
  And how many conversations were. promises ....
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Against this background, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine once again announced that the troops "are on the path of meeting NATO standards." Deputy Minister of Defense Alina Frolova said that Kiev is interested in obtaining the status of NATO partner “with expanded powers”.
Well, Zelia showed "yavamneloch." Apparently the overlord ordered to cook more "cannon fodder". In almost all countries of NATO, there has already been no draft, only Lithuania and Estonia, Norway, Greece and Austria have a draft. Yes, Ukraine is running ahead of the mare.
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"A higher level of compatibility with the armies of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance."
Of course, compatibility between partners is simply necessary. But Ukraine is a passive party in this act. And in such cases, active "partners" about compatibility do not really bother.
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The move is understandable .. 20 year olds usually managed to be dumped either in Poland or in Russia .. But 18 year olds just graduating from school are more difficult
Lord of the Sith

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Draftees will tick where someone like cockroaches, they need it, hang out in the alcohol gathering of thieves and paupers Banderstat, which they call the army))
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Need cannon fodder fresher and dumber
Vladimir Mashkov

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The TRUE rating of Zelensky is 30%. That is how many of his admirers voted for him in the first round (those who gave him votes in the second round voted AGAINST Poroshenko). Spit on all their promises (the main of which is to end the war and demilitarize Ukraine) Zelensky CAM is rapidly lowering its shaky rating to true!
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Start at the age of 15 and keep 25, and even better for life! ... And then, after all, clever men will flee to distant countries there ...
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